[1. Call to Order]
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GENTLEMEN, WELCOME TO THE TOWN COUNCIL MEETING OF THE NORTH TOWN OF NORTH LAKE. IT IS THURSDAY, JULY 22ND, AND IT IS 5:33 P.M. WE'RE GONNA GET STARTED TONIGHT WE HAVE A FULL QUORUM. ALL COUNSELORS ARE PRESENT AND STAFF. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN INDICATION HERE IN A MOMENT AND THEN OUR PLEDGES TO BOTH THE US AND THE TEXAS FLAG. OUR PASTOR THIS EVENING. WE HAVE A STAND IN TONIGHT. SO JOSH ACRES FROM THE COMPASS CHURCH. IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND FILLING IN FOR US TONIGHT, HERE AT THE PODIUM IF YOU JUST COME UP AND OPENNESS IN A SHORT INVOCATION. DON'T PREACH TO US. WE'VE GOT A LOT OF HOMEWORK TO DO APPRECIATE YOUR LIKE A MEALTIME PRAYER. THANK YOU, SIR. GO AHEAD. HEAVENLY FATHER, I THANK YOU. GOD THAT WE COULD BE HERE TONIGHT. THANK YOU FOR THE FREEDOM THAT YOU GIVE US. GOD. THANK YOU THAT WE COULD ALL BE HERE IN SUPPORT OF EACH OTHER IN COMMUNITY AND GOD, I PRAY THAT EVERYTHING THAT GOES ON TONIGHT WILL BE FOR YOUR GLORY. GOD WE JUST PRAISE YOU THAT WE ALL HAVE OUR BLESSED.
HAVE HOMES AND TO BE ABLE TO LIVE IN THE PLACE WHERE YOU ALLOW US AND CIGAR. WE THANK YOU FOR THAT. I THANK YOU FOR EACH ONE OF THESE PEOPLE THAT YOU HAVE APPOINTED TO SERVE YOUR PEOPLE AND TO SERVE YOU FOR FIRST AND FOREMOST. GOD HELP US TO CONTINUE TO WORK FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND CONTINUE TO WORK FOR THE GOOD AND THE GLORY OF YOU. AND FOR PEACE AND UNITY THAT WE SO. SO DESIRE HERE IN OUR COUNTRY. GOD WE LOVE YOU. WE PRAYER LIST IN JESUS' NAME.
KIDS. THIS. CITY, TEXAS WANT TO SAY UNDER. MHM. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GONNA GET STARTED HERE TONIGHT. WE HAVE QUITE AN AGENDA TO COVER THIS EVENING. A LOT OF TOPICS JUST TO LAY OUT THE WAY WE'RE GOING TO TACKLE THIS EVENING. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO STICK TO OUR SCHEDULE FOR THE MOMENT. WE'RE GONNA GET STARTED WITH. PROBABLY ARE AT LEAST INTERESTING TOPIC. OUR QUARTERLY BUDGET REPORT, BUT WE GOT TO HEAR FROM JOHN FOR A MINUTE, SO WE GET STARTED WITH THAT. I HAVE A FEW BUDGET TOPICS. UM, WE'LL HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC IN A LITTLE BIT HERE RIGHT AFTER THAT, AND TRY TO GET INTO GET THROUGH OUR CONSENT ITEMS AND ONTO A NUMBER OF TOPICS THAT FOLKS ARE HERE TO HERE THIS EVENING, SO WE'LL TRY TO GET TO ALL OF YOUR STUFF AND IN DUE ORDER, BUT THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT. LET'S GET ROLLING. SO, JOHN. GO AHEAD
[2.A. FY 2021 Quarterly Reports]
AND GET INTO OUR QUARTERLY REPORT. RIGHT? YEAH. SO I'M GONNA STILL THIS RIGHT? ALL RIGHT, CAN HEAR ME. GOOD. SO WE'RE AT THREE QUARTERS OF THE YEAR FINANCIALLY SPEAKING. SO AT THE END OF JUNE, 75% OF THE YEAR HAD ACTUALLY GONE BY AND. 91% OF TOTAL REVENUES HAVE BEEN RECEIVED. THUS FAR, VAST MAJORITY OF THAT IS PROPERTY TAX REVENUE, WHO THERE'S ALSO SOME TRANSFERS AND OTHER THINGS, BUT MOST REVENUE IS NOT RECEIVED LIKE AN INCREMENTAL LEVEL PROPERTY TAX, WHICH SEEMS TO BE A LEADING REVENUE SOURCE AND DEBT ISSUANCES AND THINGS LIKE THAT DOES HAPPEN RIGHT UP FRONT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, SO. IT WILL NEVER ATTRACT PERFECTLY WITH PERCENTAGE OF THE YEAR WHEN YOU'RE GOING THROUGH THESE BUDGET NUMBERS, UM. BUT EXPENSES ARE SOMETHING THAT DOES TRACK. SO IF YOU ATTRACT DURING THE YEAR WHERE 75% WERE AT 50% 6% TOTAL EXPENDITURES, THAT'S BECAUSE WE HAVE A LARGE AMOUNT OF CAPITAL IF WE REMOVE ALL THE CAPITAL AND GO TO JUST OPERATION EXPENSES WERE AT 75% OF THE YEAR WITH OPERATING EXPENSES, SO. EXPENSES ARE PERFECTLY ON TRACK THE CAPITAL BECAUSE OF HOW IT'S ADOPTED. YOU ADOPT ALL THE EXPENSES FOR A CAPITAL PROJECT WITHIN ONE YEAR, KNOWING THAT THAT CAPITAL PROJECT WILL GO FOR MULTIPLE YEARS, AND SO. THAT'S JUST HOW OUR LONG TERM CAPITAL PLAN WORKS, AND THAT'S WHY YOU'RE LOWER ON TOTAL EXPENDITURES THAT YOU ADOPTED. ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE FINANCIAL REPORT WHAT REVENUES ARE OUTSTANDING AT THIS TIME? UM, SO THERE'S A SMALL PROPORTION PROPERTY TAX REVENUES THAT ARE OUTSTANDING BECAUSE OF, UM. COMPLICATIONS AT THE APPRAISAL DISTRICTS THAT LED TO SOME PROPERTIES, MAINLY COMMERCIAL PERSONAL PROPERTY BEING NOTICED AT THE BEGINNING OF JUNE. FOR LAST YEAR. NOT THIS YEAR. HAPPENED, SO THEY HAD SOME ISSUES APPRAISING AND DOING ALL OF THAT. AND SO IT'S ABOUT 6% OF OUR PROPERTY TAX REVENUE. AND SO THAT'S WHAT'S LIKE ALSO SALES TAX AND FRANCHISE FEES. THOSE HAPPEN ON A QUARTERLY BASIS. AND SO THE FIRST QUARTER OF THAT GOES THE LAST YEAR BECAUSE IT'S RECEIVED IN THE REARS. AND SO THOSE TWO REVENUE SOURCES WILL DELAY UNTIL EVEN AFTER OCTOBER BECAUSE WE RECEIVED THOSE OCTOBER THROUGH DECEMBER. ANY CONCERNS THAT IT WON'T COME IN, AS PREDICTED PROPERTY TAXES? NO IT WILL ALL EVENTUALLY COME IN.[00:05:02]
IT ALWAYS USUALLY DOES. AND WHEN IT DOES COME IN AND ACTUALLY COMES INTO A DELINQUENT FINES AND FEES, AND SO THERE ARE PENALTIES, INTEREST FOR PEOPLE WHO DO PAY LATE ON THOSE THINGS, AND SO WE ALWAYS DO RECEIVE THEM. THE COUNCIL MAY BE COMING IN A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN WE PREDICTED, AND WE HAVE AN ITEM LATER IN THE AGENDA RELATED TO THE BUDGET. YES. COUNSELORS. OTHER QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO MOVE INTO OUR INVESTMENT REPORT. SO OUR TOTAL BOOK VALUE RIGHT NOW IS $36 MILLION. THIS IS UP $21,000 FROM OUR PRIOR REPORTS. THIS IS A 4% INCREASE IN TOTAL INTEREST EARNINGS FROM THE LAST QUARTER.UM. THE MARKET HAS NOT BEEN DOING WELL. TREASURY T BILLS HAVE ACTUALLY GONE DOWN IN THEIR YIELD OF THE PAST COUPLE WEEKS. THEY'VE NOT BEEN DOING WELL. THERE'S SOME ISSUES IN THE MARKET ABOUT TREASURY NOTES, BUT THE INVESTMENTS UM, MECHANISM THAT WE USE THROUGH.
UM, OUR NATIONAL BANK HAS ACTUALLY NETTED US A GOOD AMOUNT OF STABLE REVENUE DURING THIS TIME, SO WHILE OTHER PEOPLE WERE SEEING THEIR YIELDS GO DOWN, WE SAW A CONTINUOUS KILLED BY PARKING. A FAIR NUMBER OF THOSE CAPITAL PROJECT FUNDS IN LAMAR. SO WE'VE SEEN GOOD. INCREASED INTEREST RETURNS OVER TIME. YOU ASSUME TO RECALL I DON'T IS OUR BOOK VALUE CHANGING A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN 22. THAT'S JUST THE INTEREST NUMBER. BUT AS OUR BOOK VALUE CHANGE THE ADDRESS THAT QUARTER TO QUARTER THAT'S JUST INTEREST EARNINGS YET MY APOLOGIES. HOW WE DOING? BOOK VALUE QUARTER OVER QUARTER. I DIDN'T HAVE THE LAST NUMBER IN FRONT OF ME, UM, BOOK VALUE GOES DOWN BECAUSE YOU GET YOUR MONEY UP FRONT AND THEN HE STARTS SPENDING IT DURING THE YEAR AUSTRALIAN CAPITAL PROJECTS SO OVERALL BOOK VALUE INCREASED FROM ONE PART OF THE YEAR TO THE OTHER. A LOT OF THAT'S TO THE UTILITY REVENUES, WHICH DO COME IN HEAVIER DURING THE SUMMER. SO WHERE WERE OFFSETTING AND MOST EXPENSES? THERE WERE ALSO INCREASING REVENUE THERE SO. KIND OF NETTED OUT, AND WE ENDED UP WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE CASH THAN WE HAD LAST QUARTER. THANK YOU. COUNSELORS. GOOD GOD. THAT WASN'T SO DRY AFTER ALL, VERY HUMAN. YOU UNDERSTAND? ALL RIGHT, MR CORN NEXT TOPIC, TAX
[2.B. FY 2022 Tax Rate and Financing Strategy]
RATE AND FINANCING STRATEGY COUNSELORS. WE HAVE A SHORTER DISCUSSION TONIGHT. WE DO HAVE TO KEEP THIS ONE. A LITTLE SHORTER IS DEFINITELY SHORTER THAN OUR LAST MEETING. WE WENT PRETTY LENGTHY ON BUDGET. GOT INTO THE WEEDS. THIS IS COMING BACK OUT KIND OF A HIGH LEVEL.TALKING ABOUT WHAT THE TAX RATE IS PROPOSED TO BE AND WHAT THAT WILL ENABLE US TO DO. UM WE'RE NOT MAKING DECISIONS TONIGHT, BUT WE ARE MAKING PREDICTIONS ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK LIKE FROM A TAX RATE STANDPOINT. AND A FEW NUANCES TO THAT. SO, MR CORN CAN YOU WALK US THROUGH THE THINGS THE COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC NEED TO DOWN? THANK YOU. MAYOR YES, THIS IS EXACTLY A STRATEGY SESSION AND. WE KNOW THAT WE'VE GONE OVER THE STATE LEGISLATURES RULES ON TAX RATES, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING THAT PHILOSOPHY OF THE POLICY OF COUNCIL. SO JUST THESE ARE ARE. ENTRY SLIDES TO ALL OUR BUDGET PRESENTATIONS WERE CONTINUALLY FOCUS ON COUNCIL GOALS. THESE ARE THE FOUR THAT WERE, UH THERE WERE. HIGHLIGHTING IN THE BUDGET AND SO OUR TAX RATE STRATEGY AND HAS BEEN FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS IS TO MAINTAIN A LOW TAX RATE 29 A HALF CENTS UM. ANOTHER THING THIS YEAR AS WE WANT TO MAXIMIZE THE IMMINENT OH RATE TO MAINTAIN TOWN OPERATIONS IN TOWN SERVICE LEVELS, IF YOU REMEMBER LAST YEAR ARE MM. NO RATE. TYPICALLY WAS AROUND 60% WE DROPPED IT DOWN TO 50% AND THAT WAS FOR THAT FOR THAT DEAD ISSUANCE THAT WE DID LAST YEAR. WE HOPE TO BRING THAT BACK UP. WE'RE NOT GETTING QUITE TOO 60% BUT WE ARE WE DO HAVE A LOT MORE IN MINOT EXPENSES, OBVIOUSLY, WITH GROWTH AND THE STAFFING THAT WE'RE REQUESTING, SO WE'LL SEE.
WE'LL SEE A BALANCE IN THAT, UM. WE APOLOGIZE. WE ACTUALLY JOHN ACTUALLY GOT OUR COMPLETE SET OF NUMBERS. WAS IT? UH, WAS IT EARLIER THIS WEEK? WE HAD GAPS IN OUR PRELIMINARY NUMBERS. WE DIDN'T EVEN HAVE COMPLETE PRELIMINARY NUMBERS, SO WE FINALLY GOT THOSE FROM THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT. WE STILL DON'T HAVE THE CERTIFIED ROLE. SO I KNOW, UH, COUNCILOR SESSIONS HAD TALKED ABOUT MAYBE A SPECIAL MEETING ON THE 29TH. WE'RE STILL NOT GOING TO HAVE THOSE NUMBERS READY BY THEN. SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THAT MEETING. SO WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR ALL THOSE NUMBERS, AND SO THAT'S WHY THIS IS NOT AS SPECIFIC AS WE'D LIKE IT TO BE, BUT WE'RE STILL FOLLOWING THE STRATEGY AND THEN WE'RE, UM. THE LAST STRATEGY IS TO UTILIZE REVENUE GO GROWTH TO MAKE A ONE TIME DEBT PAY DOWN. SO THIS WILL RIGHT SIZE. THE. THE DEBT AND ALLOW FOR THE UTILITY OF FUN TO ABSORB THAT WITHOUT ANY RATE INCREASES. SO FIRST I'D LIKE TO GO OVER THE M N O RATE AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS YEAR. SO, UM AT 8. FOR SMALL
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CITIES. YOU HAVE TO, UM, YOU HAVE. YOU'RE THEN REQUIRED TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR THE RESIDENTS TO PETITION FOR A TAX RATE ELECTION. BUT THERE'S A THERE'S A PROVISION FOR SMALL TOWN FAST GROWTH CITIES, WHICH I THINK NORTHLAKE FITS THE BILL. THAT THEY CAN TAKE 500,000 OF THAT TAX REVENUE INCREASE. TO THEIR. OH BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE'RE HAVING GROWTH IN OUR MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS WERE NEEDING NINE NEW POSITIONS. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF OTHER EXPENSES COMING ON AND. THAT DOES NOT COUNT AGAINST YOUR 8% NOT STILL ELIGIBLE FOR A PETITION FOR AN ELECTION, SO JUST FULL DISCLOSURE ON THAT, BUT. ALL OF THAT 500,000 IS GOING TO M N O.SO REMEMBER, I SAID. THAT 50% OF YOUR TAX RATE WAS IN MINOT LAST YEAR. AT 500,000 IS.
EQUATES TO ABOUT 8% OF THAT GROWTH, SO WE GET TO USE THAT 500,000 IN R. M N O RATE, AND NOW THE. THE M N O RATE WILL BE 50 ABOUT 58% IT'S VERY EARLY. THEY'RE VERY PRELIMINARY PERCENTAGES, BUT THAT'S WHAT JOHN'S CALCULATED SO FAR SO. WILL BE ABLE TO USE THIS PROVISION. IT'S CALLED THE DE MINIMUS RATE. TO FUND MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS. AN ADDITIONAL 500,000 WITHOUT AFFECTING THE ROLLBACK ELECTION. CAN I ASK A QUICK QUESTION COURSE. WHAT'S THE DEBT RIGHT? BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. I MEAN, TML HAS A THREE PAGER ON THE DE MINIMUS TAX RATE, AND IT'S A COMPLICATED FORMULA. AGREED AND SO ONE OF THE COMPONENTS AS THE DEBT RATE, SO IN ORDER TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S OUR DEBT RATES? OUR DEBT RATE CURRENTLY IS 50% OF 29 A HALF SO JOHN. WHAT'S THAT? YEAH. 14 75. SO IT'S ALL IT'S ALMOST. IT'S ALMOST HALF THESE RIGHT NOW. SO WITH THIS, I THINK, UM ARE. MM.
NO WILL GO TO MAYBE LIKE 17 CENTS. AND THEN, UM. I N S WILL GO DOWN TO MAYBE PUT THAT. 12.5 SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YEAH. THINK THE IMPORTANT CONCEPTS TO ME THAT I'VE TRIED TO SIMPLIFY THIS IN MY OWN HEAD, WHICH I THINK WE ALL HAVE OUR APPROACH TO TRY TO SIMPLIFY THIS IN OUR HEADS BECAUSE IT'S IS A DIFFICULT CONCEPT. TELL YOU SPEND SOME TIME ON IT, BUT BASICALLY. BECAUSE OUR TOWN IS GROWING SO FAST, WHICH, BY THE WAY WE HIT THE COG NUMBERS SHOWED THAT WE GREW UP 48 POINT SOMETHING PERCENT GROWTH RATE THIS YEAR, 40.5. THAT IS AN ORDER OF MAGNITUDE ABOVE THE SECOND PLACE CITY IN NORTH TEXAS, WHICH WAS IN THE TWENTIES. THAT PUTS US IN THE RUNNING FOR THE FASTEST GROWING MUNICIPALITY IN TEXAS AND ONE OF THE FASTEST GROWING IN THE COUNTRY. TEXAS HAS RULES THAT DO NOT ALLOW YOU TO GROW YOUR MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS. YOUR CORE BUDGET BY MORE THAN THIS 8% WITHOUT TRIGGERING THE OPPORTUNITY FOR RESIDENTS TO SAY, HEY, HANG ON A SECOND. WHAT ARE YOU DOING? WHERE ARE YOU SPENDING THIS MONEY? IF WE GROW BY 48% IT WOULD MAKE SENSE THAT WE HAVE TO GROW BY SOME MEASURE IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN OUR SERVICE. NOT 48% BUT BY SOME MEASURE, PROBABLY ABOVE 8.
SO THEY'VE GIVEN THIS PROVISION TO ALLOW US TO SAY YOU MAY SPEND MORE ON MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE CHANGING THE RATE, BUT BECAUSE WE'RE GROWING SO FAST, THE POOL OF MONEY IS LARGER. SO THEY TAKE THE PORTION OF IT THAT YOU CAN USE FOR OPERATIONS AND THEY SAY YOU CAN GROW THIS MUCH. THE REST. YOU PUT IN YOUR DEBT PILE AND YOU CAN PAY DOWN DEBT, WHICH IS PART OF WHAT WE'RE ATTEMPTING TO DO. AND MAINTAIN THAT 29 A HALF THE ALTERNATIVE IS YOU LOWER THE RATE. BUT IF WE LOWER THE RATE AND THEN WE GO WITHOUT THE POSITIONS WE NEED TO MAINTAIN SERVICE, AND WE DON'T PAY SOME THINGS DOWN. ON A TAX RATE, WHICH IS ONE OF THE LOWEST IN THE REGION. SO IF WE'RE GONNA BE CAREFUL HERE. WE HAVE TO DO SOME PRETTY FANCY MATH EVERY YEAR IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN A 29 HALF CENT TAX RATE. SO STAFF HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE RULES SAY AND ALLOW US TO DO AND THIS PROVISION FOR FAST GROW CITIES IS THE ONE PROVISION ALLOWS US TO GET JUST ENOUGH MONEY AND OPERATIONS TO COVER THE SERVICES THAT WE NEED TO MAINTAIN SERVICE. WE'RE NOT ADDING NEW SERVICES. WE HAVEN'T THE COUNCIL HASN'T VOTED TO ADD NEW, SIGNIFICANT SERVICES TO THE TOWN SPORTS COMPLEX AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. WE'RE STILL AT THE BASICS UTILITIES, ROADS, POLICE AND PUBLIC SAFETY. BUT IN ORDER TO FUND THIS AND GET WHAT WE NEED IN ORDER TO GET IT DONE RESPONSIBLY, WE NEED MORE AND OPERATIONS AND THIS IS THE ONE LEVER THAT IS AVAILABLE TO US. SO. THE PROPORTION OF MONEY THAT GOES TO DEBT VERSUS OPERATIONS. TAKE 29% RATE DOESN'T CHANGE THAT. BUT THE PROPORTION AS TO HOW MUCH WE
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CAN SPEND ON EACH OF THOSE CATEGORIES CHANGES HERE TO HERE. BASED ON HOW FAST WE GROW. AND SO THIS IS WHAT WE'RE BASICALLY DIVVYING UP THE TWO PILES OF MONEY AND WHAT WE CAN USE IT FOR BECAUSE ONCE IT'S LOCKED INTO THAT PARTICULAR POOL OF MONEY, YOU CAN'T JUST USE MONEY IN ONE POOL. IT MAY SIT IN A CASH ACCOUNT, BUT YOU CAN'T JUST USE IT FOR THE OTHER. THAT'S THE CHALLENGE WE HAVE IS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO NAVIGATE THIS PERIOD OF OUR GROWTH. MAINTAIN THAT 29 A HALF EVEN WHILE THOSE NUMBERS ARE KIND OF SLIDING AROUND IN THE MIDDLE, SO WE DID GO FROM 60 TO 50 LAST YEAR IN THE RATIO 60% OPERATIONS TO 50% OPERATIONS 50% DEBT. THIS YEAR. WE'RE GOING TO YOU KNOW, INCH BACK A LITTLE BIT OF MR CORN SAID BACK TO ABOUT 55. THAT'S THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. I GET THAT CLOSE, JOHN. AND THE KEY IS, AS YOU SAID THAT TO MAINTAIN OUR SERVICES, AND WITH THIS INCREASED POPULATION, IT DOES MEAN INCREASES, BUT IT'S NOT NEW SERVICES. IT'S NOT A LIBRARY OR YEAH, LIKE YOU SAID.IT WAS AT A SPORTS SPORTS COMPLEX WORDS COMPLEX. DREW. DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE EFFECTIVE TAX RATE IS RIGHT NOW? WE DON'T HAVE THOSE. WE DON'T HAVE THOSE NUMBERS YET. THAT'S THE SAME THING. I ASKED ABOUT FIVE DIFFERENT WAYS AND JOHN KEPT TELLING ME. NO YOU NEED THIS NUMBER AND YOU NEED THIS NUMBER AND YOU NEED THIS NUMBER. AND I SAID, DO WE HAVE THAT ONE? NO.
SO UNTIL WE HAVE THE CERTIFIED ROLE, WE WON'T HAVE THAT. WE'RE JUST GUESSING BEFORE IT COMES IN. PROBABLY 30 INPUTS TO CALCULATE THAT NUMBER AND. WE'VE GOTTEN PRETTY GOOD AT DOING OURSELVES WITH WORKSHEETS. BUT EVERY YEAR IT CHANGES. ACTUALLY THERE'S AN ITEM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT TO DO THAT CALCULATION FORCE AS WELL AS COLLECT OUR. ARE NOT THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT, THE COLLECTOR ASSESSOR, ASSESSOR COLLECTOR YOU SAYS THIN YOU COLLECT. OKAY. THANKS. UM. TO COLLECT OUR TAXES BUT ALSO TO CALCULATE THAT, BUT IT'S A VERY COMPLICATED CALCULATION. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET IT RIGHT. AND BEFORE WE SAY SOMETHING TO PUBLISH PUBLISH SOMETHING WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S ACCURATE. SO WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THE FACT WE WON'T HAVE A MEETING ON THE 29TH TO TALK ABOUT IT. SO WHEN DO CAN WE GIVE AN EXPECTATION TO EVERYBODY WHEN WILL POTENTIALLY HAVE THAT THE NEXT MEETING BY THE CHARTER? I NEED TO HAVE THE PROPOSED BUDGET TOO. TO THE PUBLIC AND TO YOU BY JULY 30TH. SO THAT'S OUR KIND OF OUR DROP DEAD DATE, SO WE'LL HAVE THAT WE'LL HAVE THAT NUMBER BY DINNER BEFORE THEN, SO WE DON'T HAVE NECESSARILY MEETING BY THE 30TH. BUT WE WILL HAVE THE BUDGET. THAT WILL HAVE THE EFFECTIVE RATE IN IT. YES, OKAY. SO WITHIN 10 DAYS SURE. IT'S PRETTY PRETTY. WOULD YOU MIND JUST WALKING ME THROUGH REAL QUICKLY? I DON'T MEAN TO SPEND A WHOLE LOT OF TAMERLAN'S, BUT I WANT TO UNDERSTAND IT SO WE WOULD ADD BASICALLY THE EFFECTIVE TAX RATE TO THE RATE WHEN APPLIED TO TAXING UNITS CURRENT VALUE. IMPOSE AN AMOUNT EQUAL TO A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS. AND ADD THAT TO THE TAXING UNITS CURRENT DEBT, RIGHT, RIGHT. THAT'S THE SUM, BUT IT'S TELLING ME TO THE DEBT RATE PLUS THE DEBT, RIGHT. OH, PLUS THE DISTRICT. OKAY, WE'RE ADDING THE 500,000 TO THE M N O RATE AND THEN YOU ADD THE DEBT RATE. BUT THE DEBT RATES ALSO CHANGING TOO. SO BOTH THOSE BOTH THOSE NUMBERS ARE MOVING. OKAY IF WE DIDN'T AND FIGURE IT OUT UNTIL THE 30TH RIGHT, BASICALLY THINK OF IT THIS WAY. AT THIS POINT, THE ONE THEY CONSTRAIN IS M N L. WE'RE TAKING 29 A HALF AND WE'RE SAYING OKAY, WELL, WHERE THEY'RE TELLING US, YOU CAN ONLY GROW BY 8% TO YOUR EXISTING BASE. WE CAN'T FUND OUR SERVICES WITH 8% WHEN WE GREW AT 8 48. SO WE'RE GOING UP TO EIGHT AND WE'RE SAYING OKAY, WELL, WE CAN ONLY GET SO MUCH MORE SERVICE FOR THAT. UM, ALL WE'RE DOING IS TAKING FROM THE PILE OF MONEY THAT'S GOING INTO DEBT. AND WE'RE JUST ADDING ANOTHER 500 SLIDING IT OVER TO OPERATIONS. THE REMAINDER IS STILL ENOUGH NOT JUST TO COVER OUR DEBTS, BUT ALSO WE'RE GOING TO PROPOSE TO PAY SOME DOWN. IN ADDITION TO THAT. SO, UM, IT YOU TAKE LAST YEAR'S BASIC OPERATIONS COSTS M N L AND THEN AT 8% ADD 500,000, AND THAT'S WHAT THE BUDGET IS BASED ON. BOTTOM LINE IS IN. THE MAYOR HAS ALREADY SAID THIS. WE'RE PRESERVING THE TAX RATE. WE'RE ADDING NEW POSITIONS WE NEED TO MAINTAIN SERVICE LEVELS AND WE'RE ABLE TO DO SOME ADDITIONAL CAPITAL PROJECTS.
OBVIOUSLY THAT GROWTH IS THE REASON WHY, BUT WE'RE PUTTING IT ALL TOO. THE USE IS THAT THE COUNCIL HAS DIRECTED US TO YES, SIR. MAKE THIS SIMPLE FOR ME, SAID BOY, I DON'T THAT'S A TALL ORDER, SIR. OKAY THE POSE WE HAD MUCH MONEY FOR PEOPLE. OR THAT WE HAVE TO SPEND. I CAN JUST HOLLER REAL LEFT. THEY DON'T CARE THAT WE HAVE TO SPEND TWICE AS MUCH MONEY. THEY ONLY ARE GOING TO LET US SPEND 500 EXTRA 1000 PERIOD. WELL, YOUR EXAMPLE. START OFF WRONG
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BECAUSE WATER CUSTOMERS ARE NOT PART OF THIS CALCULATION, BUT SO LET'S SAY POLICE. POLICE OFFICERS, OKAY, HAS BEEN TWICE AS MILITARY POLICE. I KNOW WE DON'T INCREASE ANYTHING BUT TWICE BUT MAKE IT SIMPLE. SURE. OKAY, SO IF IT INCREASES, AND IT INCREASES MORE THAN 500,000.WE DON'T HAVE AS MUCH MONEY AS WE HAD THE YEAR BEFORE TO RUN THE TOWN. UH CORRECT AND WE COULD DOUBLE POLICE. BUT THEN WE WOULD HAVE AN AUTOMATIC ELECTION ON THE TAX RATE. SO, UH, YOU. YOU'RE WITHIN YOUR WHERE, WITH ALL TO DOUBLE POLICE EXPENDITURES, BUT THE STATE WILL ONLY LET US GO UP. 500,000 NOT NOT. OBVIOUSLY A PROPORTION OF THAT'S GOING TO POLICE BECAUSE WE'VE GOT THREE POSITIONS THAT WE PROPOSED. BUT, UM. DON'T KNOW THAT ANSWER.
500,000 SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF MONEY, BUT THAT'S FIVE PEOPLE. RIGHT? RIGHT, IT GOES, IT GOES PRETTY QUICKLY. WE'VE GOT A NUMBER OF OTHER REVENUE SOURCES SALES TAX FRANCHISE FEES, DEVELOPMENT FEES, WHICH WE'LL TALK ABOUT HERE IN THE SECOND, SO. WE'VE GOT IT. WE'VE GOT A NUMBER OF OTHER FEES. IT'S JUST THE LEGISLATURE PUTS THE. IT'S A CLAMBERS ON ON PROPERTY TAX REVENUE. OKAY? I DON'T NEED TO REMIND COUNSEL BUT JUST MADE BEFORE THE PUBLIC THAT YOU KNOW EVERY TIME WE DO GET NEW VALUES, AND THAT'S THE DEVELOPMENTS IN BLUE ON THE TOP. WE POUR THOSE BACK IN. WE INVEST BACK IN THE TOWN EVERY TIME SO. IS THIS KIND OF A TIMELINE OF WHEN WE ISSUED DEBT, EITHER CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION OR NOTES AND. KIND OF HOW THE VALUE OF CERTAIN DEVELOPMENTS PRECEDED THOSE INVESTMENTS. SO IT'S WE'RE ALWAYS WE'RE ALWAYS PAYING IT FORWARD. MAYBE NOT PAYING FORWARD. ROADS ARE ALWAYS KIND OF PLAYING IT BACKWARDS. BUT. WE'RE WHEN WE HAVE THE ABILITY WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO FINANCE THE TOWN COUNCIL HAS ALWAYS HAD. UM UH STRONG POLICY TO INVEST IN THE TOWN. AND THEN THAT REAPS FURTHER REWARDS. THE. ONE AREA THAT WE WE'VE BEEN FOCUSING ON AND ACTUALLY A LOT OF INTEREST IN EVEN HERE IN THE AUDIENCE. UH, IS OUR PHASE TWO OF OUR CATHERINE BRANCH PROJECT? SO AT THE. AT THE FAR RIGHT OF THAT GRAPHIC IS THE FOSTER TRACK. I THINK IT'S NOW CALLED THE NORTH LAKE LOGISTICS CROSSING ITS STUDENT SOON TO BE DEVELOPED WILL BE OVER A MILLION SQUARE FEET. TO THE EAST OF THAT IS, UH NORTH LAKE. LOGISTIC CENTER, NOT VERY CREATIVE IN THE NAMING, BUT IT KEEPS SAYING NORTH LIKE I'M ALL ALONG WITH THAT THAT'S THE BUCHANAN TRACKED AND THEY'LL DEVELOP ALMOST TWO MILLION SQUARE FEET. AND SO THAT WILL BRING THE LINE AND THE PLANT WILL BE IN THE BUCHANAN PROPERTY. UH AND THEN THAT WILL BRING THE LINE TO THIS MAP. AND THEN THIS PROJECT, UH, IS ROUGHLY 7.5 MILLION, ACTUALLY. LITTLE LESS THAN THAT.
THERE'S SOME OTHER PROJECTS, THE CATHERINE THE PHASE TWO WILL BE ABOUT 7.2 MILLION, AND IT WILL BRING SEWER LINE ALL THE WAY TO BOSS RANGE ROAD. AND ALLOW. ALL THOSE PROPERTIES TO DEVELOP. WE'VE ALREADY SEEN AND WE HAVE AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA LATER ABOUT THE MCPHERSON TRACKED IN ITS DEVELOPMENT. SO, UH, THIS IS THIS IS ONE OF THE PROJECTS WERE GOING TO REINVEST IN AND WE HAVE ALREADY SEEN. I HAVEN'T SEEN A DOLLAR RETURN ON INVESTMENT, BUT WE'VE SEEN PRIVATE INVESTMENT ALREADY. THAT'S GONNA, UH EQUATE TO RETURN ON INVESTMENT IN PROPERTY TAX VALUES, AND IT GETS US BACK TO THAT BALANCE. OF THE 60 40 60% COMMERCIAL AND 40% RESIDENTIAL. YOU'VE SEEN THIS GRAPH BEFORE? IT'S JUST HOW HOW THAT CATHERINE BRANCH PROJECT HOW YOUR INVESTMENT WILL BRING WILL BE BRING MULTIPLIER EFFECTS TO OUR PROPERTY TAX BASE. MM. AS THE MAYOR MENTIONED CLOSE TO 50% GROWTH. PART OF THAT IS THE DENOMINATOR OF THAT FRACTION HAVE SO WHEN YOU'RE SMALL, AND YOU HAVE SOME MAJOR GROWTH INCREASES THAT PERCENTAGE PRETTY WELL, BUT. REGARDLESS WE'RE EXPERIENCING RECORD GROWTH. AND THIS IS GENERATING SOME ONE TIME SHORT TERM REVENUE. THESE BUILDING PERMITS THESE INSPECTION FEES WILL EVENTUALLY DRY UP AND THE. THE OFFICERS, THE STAFF, THE PUBLIC WORKS CREWS, THE WATER CREWS WILL REMAIN AND CONTINUE TO GROW. SO IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE. RIGHT SIZE ARE SPENDING AND NOT USE THIS, UH. NOT USE THIS ONE TIME KIND OF SHORT TERM
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REVENUE FOR LONG TERM COSTS. WE WILL DIG OURSELVES INTO A HOLE. SO, UH, THAT'S WHY WE'RE PROPOSING, UM, A LARGE DEBT SERVICE. PAY DOWN THIS WILL THIS WILL, UM. HELP US TO CALIBRATE THAT IT WON'T PUT IT WON'T CAUSE A. AND AN INCREASE ON UH, UTILITY RATES, WHICH WE HAD JUST INCREASED AND GIVE US GIVE THE UTILITY RATE THE ABILITY TO ABSORB THAT SO. IN THE GRAPH AT THE BOTTOM IS JUST, UH, AN EXAMPLE OF ALL THE ENTITLED DEVELOPMENTS YOU, YOU KNOW. DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S GOING TO END. I KNOW. SOMETIMES IT DOES. IT FEELS LIKE IT'S NOT GOING TO END BUT IT WILL END AND WE'RE SITTING BERG. A COUPLE OF YEARS WERE SAYING THAT THIS IS A VALUABLE CHART COUNSELORS. SO UNDERNEATH US IS THE PROJECTIONS BY YEAR THAT THIS IS STAFFS INTERPRETATION. OF THE PROJECTIONS FOR EACH DEVELOPMENT ACROSS THE TOWN, EVEN LITTLE ONES. UM AND THIS IS A REALLY GREAT SUMMARY BECAUSE IT TAKES THE INFORMATION THAT THEY'RE CRUNCHING ON A DAILY BASIS AND GIVES US THAT FEELING THAT WELL, FROM AN ENTITLEMENT STANDPOINT, THE LINES COULD GET DRAWN OUT A LITTLE BIT IF THE MARKET CHANGES. BUT AS THESE NEIGHBORHOODS COME ON, AND YOU ADD UP WHERE YOU THINK THEY'RE GONNA REALLY HIT THEIR STRIDE, THIS IS THAT PROJECTION AND IT DOES ACTUALLY TAIL OFF, WHICH IS, MR CORN SAID IS DOESN'T FEEL THAT WAY RIGHT NOW. AND IT WON'T FOR ANOTHER TWO OR THREE YEARS, BUT WE GET BEYOND THAT PEAK WITH A COUPLE OF THESE MAJOR DEVELOPMENTS, AND THEY START FINISHING OUT THE CORNERS AND SOME OF THE LARGER LOTS. COMMUNITIES. UM. RIGHT NOW, WHEN IT COMES TO ALL ENTITLEMENTS IN THE TOWN, THIS WOULD BE THE COMPLETE BUILD OUT IF THERE ARE NO MORE ENTITLEMENTS. SO THIS I THINK THIS WILL BE A VALUABLE CHART FOR YOU TO KEEP IN YOUR BACK POCKET JUST TO KEEP THAT IN PERSPECTIVE. AND. THAT'S REALLY IT. THAT'S THAT'S KIND OF THE PHILOSOPHICAL APPROACH WE'RE TAKING AND AGAIN. WE APOLOGIZE THAT WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE FINAL NUMBERS. I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO BE CLOSE AND WE'LL WE'LL HAVE THAT. WE'LL HAVE ALL THOSE RATES READY. IN 10 DAYS. NUMBER EIGHT DAYS. OKAY. AND THEN, UH, WE'LL GO OVER THATAUG, UH, SEPTEMBER, 9TH IS THE BUDGET AND TAX RATE ADOPTION.ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ANSWERED THE NUMBER DURING THE PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, LET'S GET TO OUR PUBLIC INPUT TONIGHT. UM, WE HAVE FIVE PUBLIC HEARINGS TO HOLD TONIGHT ON CHANGES TO DIFFERENT ITEMS. SO IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING SPECIFIC THAT RELATES TO ONE OF THOSE ITEMS YOU'D LIKE TO WITHHOLD YOUR COMMENTS UNTIL THAT TIME. JUST LET ME KNOW.
AND WE DO ASK YOU FILL OUT ONE OF THE CARDS SO WE CAN GET YOU ON THE RECORD, BUT WE'RE GOING TO OPEN IT UP FOR REGULAR PUBLIC COMMENT, WHICH, OF COURSE YOU CAN SPEAK NOW OR SPEAK LATER DOESN'T MATTER. BUT YOU HAVE TWO OPPORTUNITIES TO DO SO ON SOME OF THESE TOPICS, AND BUT THIS ONE IS OPEN TO ANY TOPIC, NOT ON THE AGENDA OR OTHERWISE THAT YOU JUST WANT TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL, SO I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS HERE TONIGHT. WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU AND SEE WHAT YOU'RE WHAT YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT TONIGHT? WE'VE GOT A COUPLE AND THEY MAY WANT TO WAIT TILL THE BECAUSE THE REFERENCE IN PARTICULAR ITEM. OKAY I HAVE TWO THAT ARE RELATED TO ITEM FIVE. FIVE K. THERE IS A PUBLIC HEARING ON THAT ONE. WOULD YOU LIKE TO HOLD YOUR COMMENTS UNTIL THAT ITEM? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD. WE'LL DO THAT. IS THERE ANYONE THAT? LET'S SEE. LET'S SEE WHAT TIME IT IS. 61 WILL OPEN PUBLIC COMMENT TONIGHT. IS THERE ANYONE WHO WANTS TO WAVE AT ME AND TALK ON ANY OTHER SUBJECT TONIGHT? OKAY? ALL RIGHT. STILL 61 PM WILL CLOSE PUBLIC INPUT TONIGHT AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR CONSENT ITEMS.
[4. Consent Items]
COUNSELORS THERE ARE SEVERAL CONSENT ITEMS PROPOSED FOR YOU THIS EVENING. I'LL HIGHLIGHT THEM AND THEN WELL, YOU CAN. YOU CAN PULL THEM OR WE CAN VOTE ON THEM. I'LL TAKE THAT AFTER I READ THESE FIRST OF THE TOWN COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES FROM OUR LAST MEETING. SECOND IS APPOINTING DIRECTORS OF THE NORTH LAKE MMD NUMBER ONE WHICH IS BECOME SQUARE. THEY PROPOSE, UM, ARE RECOMMEND BY OUR CONTRACT. THEY ARE ALLOWED TO RECOMMEND WHO THEY RECOMMEND TO US, AND WE CAN CONFIRM FROM THAT LIST. WE HAVE THREE SLOTS. WE HAVE THREE RECOMMENDATIONS.YOU CAN SAY YES OR NO, BUT YOU CAN'T PICK ANYONE FOR IT THAT THEY DON'T RECOMMEND. ITEM E.
INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN US AND THEN COUNTY FOR THE PURPOSE OF TAX COLLECTION FOR THE THREE ENTITIES TOWN OF NORTH LAKE NORTHLAKE PID, NUMBER ONE, WHICH IS HARVESTED NORTH LIKE PAID NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS THE HIGHLANDS. SO IF YOU PREFER TO COLLECT OUR OWN PROPERTY TAX, THEN YOU'RE WELCOME TO VOLUNTEER. OTHERWISE THE PROPOSAL IS DENTON COUNTY.
THREE ITEMS FOR CONSENT COUNSELORS YOUR CONSIDERATION. TO PULL OUT OF DEEP, PLEASE.
ALRIGHT, ITEM D IS PULLED CONSIDERATION OF ITEM. SEE ANY. MOTION TO APPROVE AND MOTION TO
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APPROVE. DO I HAVE A 2ND 2ND? HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILLOR SESSIONS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, ALL RIGHT, ANY OPPOSED? THANK YOU. ITEM D COUNSELOR. YOUR FOUR. OKAY IN READING OVER THIS.[4.D. Resolution No. 21-21 Appointing Directors of Northlake Municipal Management District No. 1 of Denton County, a Conservation and Reclamation District located within the corporate limits of the Town of Northlake, Texas]
IT TALKS ABOUT THE BORDER DIRECTORS. WOULD YOU PLEASE TELL US WHO THE BORDER DIRECTORS ARE? I CAN'T READ THAT BROUGHT IN THE BACK OF THESE DOCUMENTS. THERE ARE THREE RYAN GRIFFIN DREW CORN AND RAIN PEARSON. OTHER PROPOSALS. NO NO, I MEAN OF THE BOARD ITSELF. THAT'S RECOMMENDING THESE OKAY, DOCUMENT AS THE PRESIDENT.REMEMBER TIME. ALL FIVE BOARD MEMBERS, UH. UH TERRAIN. PEARSON IS GOING TO BE NEW.
HE'S REPLACING, UH, KEMPER. COWDEN. I'M ON THERE. NOW. RYAN GRIFFIN IS GOING TO REPEAT. TIM COULTHARD IS ONE ON THERE, BUT HE'S NOT UP AND EDWARD VOGEL IS THE FIFTH ONE. ANY OF THEM.
RESIDENTS OF THE TOWN OF NORTH LAKE. WHAT'S THE LEVY ON THIS MUNICIPAL MANAGEMENT DISTRICT? 70.5 CENTS PER $100 ASSESSED VALUE. HAVE. HAVE A BIT OF A PROBLEM. WITH. OUR TOWN ADMINISTRATOR BEING ON THIS, IT SEEMS TO BE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST. I DON'T I'M NOT SAYING THAT LEGALLY, BUT IT SEEMS TO BE AND. YOU'VE GOT AN AWFUL LOT OF WORK THAT YOU DO ALREADY FOR THE TOWN, AND I THINK IT'S STRETCHING YOU. EVEN MORE THIN LIFE. TO PUT IN THESE BOARD POSITIONS. THAT'S MY PERSONAL. VIEW OF THIS. I THINK THAT MEMBERS OF THE SPORT SHOULD BE TAXPAYING CITIZENS SO THAT IT'S NOT TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION. NONE OF THESE MEMBERS ARE ON THE BOARD WHO PAY THE TAX. THESE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DECIDE HOW THAT TAXES SPENT. CANCER IT PHILOSOPHICALLY. I AGREE. I DON'T LIKE, UM THE DISTRICTS OUTSIDE THE CONTROL OF RESIDENTS. THAT'S ANGST FOR ALL OF OUR MASTER PLANNED COMMUNITIES BEFORE THEY GET TURNED OVER TO THE RESIDENTS, AND IT'S USUALLY DEEP OR ALL THE WAY AT THE END OF COMPLETE BUILD OUT BEFORE THEY GET A CHANCE TO REPRESENT.
PHILOSOPHICALLY THAT'S TOUGH. THEY DON'T FEEL THAT THEY HAVE REPRESENTATIVES. A COUPLE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE GOTTEN SOMEONE ON THE BOARD JUST AS A TOKEN, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE ANY CONTROL BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A VOTING BLOC. SO PHILOSOPHICALLY, I AGREE. IN THE CASE OF MR CORN. I THINK THIS IS AN INTERESTING ONE. SO THE TOWN HAS THE OPPORTUNITY BY THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. I BELIEVE TO APPOINT ONE PERSON OR HAVE ONE PERSON FROM THE TOWN. SO THEY HAVE THE REQUIREMENT TO SELECT SOMEONE OR NOMINATE SOMEONE FROM THE TOWN TO REPRESENT THE BOARD, WHICH GIVES A LITTLE BIT MORE REPRESENTATION TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD RATHER THAN JUST HAVE FIVE FROM THE DISTRICT PEOPLE. SECONDLY MR CORN IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE A TAXPAYING CITIZEN IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. IS BUILDING HOME THERE. AND SO THAT GIVES ACTUALLY, UH, THE FIRST RESIDENT ON THE BOARD AHEAD OF SCHEDULE, WHICH I FIND GOOD. OTHERWISE I WOULD. TECHNICALLY PROBABLY AGREE THAT WAS A DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOOD. BUT BECAUSE IT'S THIS ONE, I THINK THAT ACTUALLY, HIS IS A GOOD THING. SO JUST MY TWO CENTS. THE TIME COMMITMENT IS ABOUT AN HOUR A MONTH, WE HAD A TELECONFERENCE MEETING. UM. TODAY AT NOON, ACTUALLY WAS A LITTLE UNDER AN HOUR. UM, IT.
THERE IT'S A GOOD CONDUIT OF INFORMATION SO I CAN KEEP UP WITH WHAT'S HAPPENING, AND THEN I CAN INFORM AMONG WHAT THE TOWN'S DOING. THEY HAD. ONE OF THE TOPICS WAS. WAS DEAD ISSUANCE AND THEY'RE ABLE TO ISSUE IT. SOONER AT A LOWER RATE THAT ENDS UP SAVING THE DISTRICT RESIDENTS MONEY IN THE LONG RUN SHORTENS THE TIME OF THE DISTRICT BY THAT MANEUVER.
SO, UM, OF COURSE, AND THAT PAYS BACK THE DEVELOPER QUICKER, BUT. IT'S TOO IT'S A WIN WIN SITUATION. I CONFIRMED THAT WE DON'T HAVE CERTIFIED ROLES. THEY DON'T HAVE THEM EITHER. SO. THAT WAS GOOD THAT THEY'RE NOT GIVING IT TO ONE GROUP AND NOT ANOTHER. BUT UH, SO, UH, IN THE PAST, THE COUNCIL HAD, UM, ASKED ME TO SERVE ON THIS BOARD BUT OF THE COUNCIL. REPORT TO YOU GUYS. SO IF YOU DON'T WANT ME TO SERVE ON THIS BOARD, I'LL REMOVE MY SELF FROM RECOMMENDATION AND THEY'LL THEY'LL GO BACK AND PICK SOMEONE ELSE THAT. I'M NOT SURE IF THEY'LL PICK SOMEONE FOR FROM PECAN SQUARE OF THE PICK SOMEONE THAT REPRESENTS THEIR INTEREST. CAN THEY PICK SOMEONE FROM ICON SQUARE? UM. THEY RECOMMEND, SO THERE'S REALLY NO IT'S THEIR RECOMMENDATION. THERE'S ONE SLOT THAT HAS TO BE FILLED BY BY SOMEONE FROM THE TOWN. DOES THAT MEAN A RESIDENT OR XIMENA STAFF MEMBER? I'M NOT SURE WE
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HAVE AN ATTORNEY HERE. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT REQUIRED TO BE A STAFF MEMBER. UH. I THINK IT WILL. I'LL HAVE TO GET THAT ANSWER FOR YOU. I THINK IT HAS TO BE RELATED. TO THE TOWN. IT CAN BE A COUNCIL MEMBER OR STAFF MEMBER. BUT. I'LL GET YOU THAT ANSWER. DO YOU KNOW RIGHT OFF? SO THE SKIN. THEY SAID TO REPRESENT, I THINK IT SAYS A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE TOWN SO IT COULD BE AN EMPLOYEE, OR, UH, POTENTIALLY AN APPOINTED OFFICIAL. OKAY, THAT'S INTERESTING. JUST THINK WITH THE GROWTH THAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING THAT WE DON'T NEED TO DOUBLE UP ON SOME OF THESE POSITIONS THAT WE CAN HAVE NEW PEOPLE IN THESE POSITIONS, AS OPPOSED TO STAFF MEMBERS. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE DROOPING IN THE LOOP INFORMATION WISE. BUT ARM'S LENGTH TRANSACTIONS. I FOLLOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT I THINK THE RESULT WOULD BE SOMEONE WHO HAS, UH, LESS KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT THE PROJECT IS OR ANOTHER STAFF MEMBER WHO'S MORE JUNIOR TO MR CORN. SO IN THIS SENSE IF IT WAS SIGNIFICANTLY MORE WORK. I PROBABLY AGREE WITH YOU. BUT IN THIS CASE, I THINK HE ACTUALLY DOUBLES AS BOTH THE FUTURE RESIDENT AND AS REPRESENTATIVE OF THE TOWN, I THINK THAT'S ACTUALLY A REALLY GOOD POINT OF CONTACT FOR THE MEMBERS OF THE DISTRICT. SOME MY SUPPORT IS BEHIND HIM. THIS THIS NOMINATION. CURRENT COUNCILLORS ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. IF WE DIDN'T. IF WE DIDN'T PICK THE PEOPLE THEY RECOMMENDED. COULD WE ASK THEM TO PICK SOMEBODY THAT LIVES THERE? WE CAN ASK THEM, BUT THEY HAVE FULL CONTROL AS TO WHO THEY NOMINATE TO US. WE CAN'T WE CAN'T INFLUENCE THAT DECISION OTHER THAN ASK. SO WHY WAS THE CONTRACT WRITTEN LIKE THIS? THAT WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THIS? I WOULD EXPENDITURE OF FUNDS THAT ARE CITIZENS ARE PAYING. THIS IS THE STRUCTURE OF ALL THE MASTER PLANNED DEVELOPMENTS. UM THE UNIQUE THING ABOUT THIS ONE WAS UNIQUE TO THE MUNICIPAL MANAGEMENT DISTRICT FORM. UM. WATER CONTROL IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT AND KENYAN FOLLOWS FRESH HORSE SUPPLY DISTRICT AND HARVEST DOESN'T HAVE THIS PROVISION. THERE IS A. THERE'S AN ALLOWANCE FOR ACCOUNT REPRESENTATIVE AND SO IT'S A IT'S NOT CONTROLLED BY THE TOWN, BUT IT ALLOWS SOME INPUT FROM THE TOWN, SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A HYBRID. IT'S A STEP CLOSER TO WHAT I'M SAYING. THIS IS A. ONE STEP CLOSER TO A BETTER FUNCTION THAN THE OTHERS WHERE I LIVE, WHERE WE DON'T HAVE REPRESENTATION ON THE BOARD. STATE STATUTE. CREATION. SETS OFF THE RIB BREAKS SO THEY THAT STATUTE SAYS THAT YOU HAVE TO APPROVE SOMEONE FROM THEIR SLATE OF CANDIDATES. UH OR DISAPPROVED, BUT YOU ONLY HAVE THEIR SLATE OF CANDIDATES TO CHOOSE FROM. DOESN'T PROVE IT. THEN THEY'LL COME BACK WITH THE NEW SLATE. YEAH. IN THE END THAT'S SET BY STATE STATUTE, RIGHT? THAT'S NOT BY DEVELOPING. AND THESE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE MADE BY THE MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS CORRECT. YES. WHICH AT THIS POINT IS UNDEVELOPED LOTS, RIGHT. BUT HOW FAR ALONG UNTIL UNTIL THAT STARTS TO CHANGE. IS IT 50 50 WHEN IT STARTS TO CHANGE, OR IS IT BEYOND THAT? IS THERE A TRIGGER POINT? A PROPERTY OWNERSHIP. SO UM, I WOULD ASSUME IT TO BE 50 50, OKAY? RIGHT. SO MAY NOT BE LONG.ACTUALLY. WHICH EXCUSE ME, I'M INTERRUPT. AT WHICH POINT ARE YOU REFERRING TO LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE 3 75 OR ARTICLE THE OTHER TWO ARTICLES. 6437506 IS WHAT SETS OUT. YOU HAVE TO PROVE SOMEONE THAT THEY RECOMMEND. ORGANISM. YOUR ONLY OPTIONS OR SOMEBODY THAT THEY RECOMMEND. YOU DON'T HAVE THE POWER TO RECOMMEND SOME. SO BASICALLY OUR ONLY. INPUT IS A VETO OF WHO THEY RECOMMEND. THAT'S RIGHT. AND THEN THEY COME BACK WITH NEW SLATE, PRESUMABLY AND. NEW TO VETO THAT, BUT AGAIN, YOU DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO. ACTUALLY IS IT THE ENTIRE SLATE OR CAN THEY KNOW YOU CAN REMOVE ME? THEY NEED TO OKAY, RIGHT? COUNSELORS FIRST FURTHER DISCUSSION. OR EMOTION TO PROVE DENIERS, BUT THE SLATE. MAKE MOTION TO APPROVE THE WHOLE SLATE. MOTION TO APPROVE THE SLATE. DO I HAVE A SECOND? HAVE A SECOND THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE AYE, ANY OPPOSED? TWO DAYS. YES.
COUNCILOR SESSIONS. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. WE ARE NOW ON TO OUR REGULAR ACTION ITEMS. FIRST ONE
[5.F. Approval of an Ordinance of the Town Council of the Town of Northlake, Texas, amending the Adopted Budget for the Fiscal Year October 1, 2020, through September 30, 2021; providing that expenditures for the said fiscal year shall be made m accordance with the said Amended Budget]
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ITEM F. WE NEED TO DO A BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR THE LAST FISCAL YEAR TO RECOGNIZE NEW REVENUE AND AN ALLOCATION FOR WHAT THAT REVENUE IS PROPOSED TO BE USED FOR. SO DO WE HAVE SOMEONE WALK US THROUGH, JOHN? YOU'RE GONNA WALK US THROUGH. WELL. WE'RE GOOD. HOWEVER YOU WANT GO AHEAD LIKE WE DISCUSSED EARLIER WE'VE HAD DONE UM. GROWTH AND WITH THAT GROWTH CAME IN ADDITIONAL RESIDENTIAL, UH, BUILDING PERMITS. THIS IS IN OUR CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, SO I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THIS EARLIER AND SOME OF OUR EARLIER DISCUSSIONS. WE HAD TO KIND OF SET THE FINAL BUDGET. AROUND AUGUST AND THEN WE JUST HAD A BOOM IN AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER, AND SO, UM. IN ADDITION, AS THE MAIN REMINDS ME CONSTANTLY, I TOTALLY GOT IT WRONG ON THE PROJECTIONS FROM COVID. OUR SALES TAX WENT WAY UP. WE THOUGHT OUR BUSINESSES WOULD.SUFFER, AND THEY DID. BUT EVERYBODY STARTED ORDERING ONLINE AND BECAUSE OF THE WAY THEY DO THE SALES TAX SOURCING. WE GOT, UH, WE GOT A LOT OF SELL SEX REVENUES. UM, SOME OF OUR RECORD MONTES HAVE BEEN DURING DURING COVID. AND THEN FINALLY MORE. AND FOR THE REVENUE CHANGES. UH, WE WILL ACCEPT. UM OUR FIRST TRAUNCH OF, UH. THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT FUNDING. AND THIS IS THIS IS JUST TO CHANGE OUR BUDGET TO ACCEPT THAT REVENUE.
WE'RE NOT AND WELL, WE HAVE ANOTHER ITEM ON THE OFFICIAL ACCEPTANCE OF THAT. WE HAVEN'T.
UH WE HAVEN'T DECIDED ON ANY USES OF THOSE FUNDS. THIS IS JUST TO ACCEPT THEM. AND THEN.
LIKE I SAID EARLIER IN THE BUDGET WITH ONE TIME REVENUES, SHORT TERM REVENUES WE TRY TO USE MATCHED THEM UP. MARRY THOSE UP TO ONE TIME EXPENSES. SO TWO THINGS THAT WERE IN THE ORIGINAL BUDGET PROPOSAL THAT WE'D LIKE TO MOVE TO THIS YEAR'S BUDGET. IS A WORK ORDER SYSTEM FOR ERIC AND PUBLIC WORKS. AND THEN A UPGRADE TO OUR. OUR FINANCE SOFTWARE. UM, OPEN GOVE BOUGHT S T W AND THIS IS THEIR CLOUD OFFERING OF THIS SO IT WOULD SAVE US IN THE LONG RUN ON SERVER UPGRADES. IT IS PRETTY SIGNIFICANT. AMOUNT. BOTH OF THESE ARE BUT, UM.
THESE WOULD GET US EFFICIENCIES ARE CURRENT WORK HARDER SYSTEM. WE'RE ENTERING SOME, SOMETIMES TWO OR THREE DIFFERENT TIMES, SO WE NEED TO GET OUR SYSTEMS TO TALK TO EACH OTHER. AND THEN OPEN. GOVE UH, THIS THIS CLOUD ABILITY WILL SAVE US SERVER STORAGE. IN THE LONG RUN.
THEY'LL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT. I THINK WE'VE DISCUSSED WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THE ORIGINAL BUDGET REQUEST THAT. THEY HAVE MULTIPLE LOCATIONS THEY HAVE BACK UP THERE. WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL THAT IT WILL HAVE A SERVICE LEVEL AGREEMENT TO MAKE SURE THEY DO THAT. WE'LL HAVE INSTANT. UM MHM. MHM. DISASTER RECOVERY ABILITY TO GET THOSE GET THOSE.
IT'S NOT WITH US. IT'S WITH THEM, SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO FIND THOSE AND THEN. TO SO THAT THE TRANSFER CHANGES THAT LAST ONE IS. FOR THOSE SOFTWARE, SO THAT'S THE 1 18 IN THE 95. I THINK WE MISSED $100 ON THAT. ON THAT TRANSFER. WE'LL GET THAT CORRECTED. UM. THAT'S TO PUT THOSE IN OUR DIFFERENT SERVICE FUNDS. AND SO, UH, THE SOFTWARE UPGRADES GO TO OUR TECHNOLOGY SERVICES FUND. THE ONE ABOVE THAT IS TO THE BUILDING SERVICES. THAT'S THE OUR PORTION OF THE FINISH OUT OF THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES BUILDING, AND THAT WILL PROBABLY BE SPENT NEXT YEAR AS WELL. BUT WE'RE USING THESE ONE TIME REVENUES FOR ONE TIME EXPENSES. AT THIS POINT, WE DON'T HAVE ANY PLANS FOR THE AARP OF FUNDING. CORRECT, CORRECT. WE HAVE NOT IDENTIFIED THE USE FOR THAT. AND. IT WILL COME BEFORE COUNCIL AND RIGHT COUNCIL MEETING. THERE'S YES, SIR. AND WE'RE STILL GETTING, UM. DIRECTION FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THE STATE GOVERNMENT ON EXACTLY HOW. TO WHAT? WHAT THE CATEGORIES ARE WHAT AREAS WE CAN USE THOSE FUNDS FOR WHAT? THE RULES AND PROCEDURES WITH FEDERAL GRANTS, USUALLY QUITE A FEW. HIGHS FEW REQUIREMENTS WITH THOSE ALL RIGHT. MAKE US SOME INTEREST.
JOHN. COUNSELORS. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR CORN? ALL RIGHT. I'LL ENTERTAIN YOUR CONSIDERATION.
MOTION TO APPROVE. MOTION TO APPROVE FROM THE MAYOR. PRETEND TO HAVE A SECOND. HAVE A SECOND FROM DR SESSIONS ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. ALL RIGHT. HAVE IMPOSED
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UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU. ADAM G. CHANGE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE[5.G. Approval of an Ordinance on the Comprehensive Plan amendment to change the future land use designation from MU - Mixed Use to BP - Business Park for the area generally located north of Victory Circle and south of Denton Creek and the future extension of FM 1171 and west of IH35WandeastofFM 156]
FROM MIXED USE TO BUSINESS PARK FOR, UM, AN AREA IN THE CATHERINE BRANCH. HOW IS THE ORDER THAT WE WANT TO DO THIS? YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE US AN OVERVIEW HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.THEN WE GO BACK TO THE MOTION. YES THAT'S RIGHT, MAYOR. OKAY WALK US THROUGH THIS, PLEASE.
ALL RIGHT. UHH THIS IS REALLY A CLEANUP ITEM THAT'S PROPOSED HERE TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE. UH, MAP DESIGNATION FOR THE CATHERINE BRANCH AREA JUST NORTH OF THE SPEEDWAY IN SOUTH OF DIDN'T CREAK. IT IS CURRENTLY SHOWN AS MIXED USE ON THE FUTURE. LAND USE MAP. THAT KIND OF ALLOWS THE BROADEST NUMBER OF USES THE MOST INTENSE USES. MOST OF THAT AREA IS IN THE T. J, WHERE WE HAVE THE LEASE CONTROL OVER USES. SO I THINK PART OF THE IDEA WAS TO ALLOW FOR SOME FLEXIBILITY ON HOW THAT MIGHT END UP DEVELOPING REALLY HAVING NO WAY TO KNOW HOW THAT WAS GOING TO DEVELOP AT THE TIME WHEN THERE WAS VERY LITTLE DOWN THERE. NOW WE'VE STARTED STARTED TO SEE SOME DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY. SOME QUALITY INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE IN THE WORKS. ANOTHER ONE PLAN THAT WE HAVE SEPARATE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT. UH, FOR THAT PARTICULAR SITE TO MAKE FARM PROPERTY, A ZONING CHANGE INDUSTRIAL WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL BACK IN DECEMBER, ALONG WITH A FUTURE LAND USE. PLAN AMENDMENT JUST FOR THAT SITE. SO THERE'S KIND OF AN ISLAND OF INDUSTRIAL SURROUNDED BY THIS MIXED USE AT THE MOMENT, AND THIS IS THE KIND OF, UH CLEAN THAT WHOLE AREA UP SO IT MATCHES TO WHAT? HOW IT IS BEING DEVELOPED IN HIS LIKELY. TO CONTINUE BEING DEVELOPED.
UM, BUSINESS PARK CHARACTER AREA IS A PROPOSAL, WHICH ALLOWS FOR THE INDUSTRIAL TYPE USES OF DISTRIBUTION CENTERS ALSO ALLOWS FOR, UM CORPORATE OFFICE CAMPUSES BUT ALSO ALLOWS FOR THINGS TO KIND OF SUPPORT THOSE IN HIGH EMPLOYMENT AREAS SUCH AS HOTELS, RETAIL AND RESTAURANTS AS WELL. THE. PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION CONSIDERED THIS AT THEIR LAST MEETING AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE OF THE AMENDMENT AND PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE. PUBLIC HEARING IS REQUIRED BEFORE ACTION ON IT AND NOTICE WAS PUBLISHED IN THE DIDN'T RECORD CHRONICLE AND POSTED ON THE TOWN WEBSITE HAS REQUIRED. WE HAVE RECEIVED NO COMMENTS FROM THOSE NOTICES SO FAR. ANYTHING CAN YOU JUST CLARIFY ON THE ON THE MAP? DO WE HAVE THE MAP THAT WE CAN SHOW ON THE SCREENS OVERHEAD. THERE'S A LOT OF PROPERTY DESIGNATIONS RIGHT ON THE BORDER OF THIS TERRITORY IS A LITTLE BIT ORANGE UP THERE ON THE NORTH AND THE WEST. THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF MIXED USE TRANSITIONAL MIX USED IN THERE IN PURPLE. CAN JUST CLARIFY EXACTLY ISN'T EXACTLY THE PINK SPACE AND THE PINK SPACE ONLY, OR IS IT THAT YOU KNOW THOSE ADDITIONAL LITTLE ISLANDS THERE. IT'S EXACTLY THE PINKS VERSE AND THE PINK SPACE ONLY. OKAY THERE, UH, KIND OF IN THE CLOUDED AREA. PINK SPACE ALONG 35. TO THE TO THE EAST AND NORTH THAT THAT'S TO REMAIN. OKAY, SO IT'S WITHIN THE RED BOUNDARY. OKAY YOU'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF ORANGE IN THERE. IS THAT A DOUBLE OVERLAY? THAT'S NOT ACT THAT WE DON'T HAVE NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL DOWN THERE DO KNOW NOW THAT THE ORANGE IS CREATED BY THAT. I THINK IT'S THE OVERLAY OF THE. THE YELLOW ARTERIAL CORRIDOR.
OKAY KIND OF MAKES IT LOOK ORANGES. OKAY, SO THIS IS GENERALLY BELOW THE IT'S ALL BELOW THE CREEK. IT'S ALL WEST OF I 35 IT'S ALL NORTH OF VICTORY CIRCLE. ALL EAST OF 1 56, AND IT'S ALL THE AREA CURRENTLY DESIGNATED AS MIXED USE. CHANGING THE BUSINESS PARK. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT, RED CLOUD. OKAY? RIGHT, BUT IT'S NOT THE TRANSITIONAL MIXED USE OVER ON THE NORTHEAST BOUNDARY THAT STAYS JUST CHANGING. WHAT'S PINK? OKAY ALL RIGHT, SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY. GOT THAT CLARITY. YOU KNOW, THESE ARE THESE ARE BUBBLES. THEY'RE NOT HARD AND FAST LINES SO THERE THERE COULD BE SOME OVERLAP. I UNDERSTAND. OKAY, COUNSELORS. YOUR DISCUSSION. IS THERE ANY MORE YOU NEED TO SAY, DO WE NEED TO HAVE THE PUBLIC THE PUBLIC HEARING FIRST? UP TO YOU. YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING AT SOME POINT, RIGHT? YOU CAN HAVE COUNSELORS. OKAY. IS THERE ANYONE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS PARTICULAR TOPIC TONIGHT? OKAY, SO WE'LL HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING THEN SINCE THERE'S NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO TALK SO AT 6 23 PM, WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. THERE
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ANYONE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ONE MORE CHANCE ON THIS ONE. ALL RIGHT. IT'S STILL 6 23 PM AND SEEING NO ONE SIGNED IN OR WAVING AT ME WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. COUNSELORS WILL TURN THE FLOOR OVER TO YOU TO DISCUSS GO WITH THE. TRANSITION SORRY. SO WITH THE TRANSITION FROM MIXED USE OF BUSINESS PARK, YOU SAID THAT THAT WOULD STILL ALLOW FOR HOTELS AND OFFICE BUILDINGS RETAIL OFFICE RESTAURANT PUT IT EXCLUDE, UH, THE BIG EXCLUSION WOULD BE RESIDENTIAL. AND IT WOULD ALLOW FOR, UH. INDUSTRIAL DISTRIBUTION CENTER TYPE TYPE DEVELOPMENT. HEAVY INDUSTRIAL LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. MORE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TIME. DOES IT? DOES IT EXCLUDE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL. NO NOT NOT NECESSARILY. THIS IS JUST KIND OF BROAD LAND USE IS JUST DOESN'T GET INTO ZONING, JUST GUIDES KIND OF THE FUTURE ZONING OF IT. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S DETERMINED IS ONLY. THE COUNCIL WILL STILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THIS FOR THE ZONING. IN THIS AREA AND MOST OF THIS AS E. T J SO YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO NEGOTIATE THAT. NOT NEGOTIATING, DETERMINED THAT ZONING UPON ANNEXATION, SO THE ZONING HAS MORE SPECIFICITY AND ZONING WHERE WE DETERMINE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LIGHT AND HEAVY INDUSTRIAL. YES AND AS WE'VE DISCUSSED BEFORE OUR INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT. IS IT ALLOWS MORE FOR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES BY RIGHT AND ALLOWS FOR SOME HEAVY INDUSTRIAL USES WITH THE APPROVALS SPECIFIC USE PERMIT. WHICH WOULD COME BEFORE COUNCIL HAVE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND WOULD BE TOTALLY UP TO THE DISCRETION OF COUNCIL. SO THE MAJOR EXCLUSION AS SUMMARIZING EARLIER IT EXCLUDES RESIDENTIAL FROM THE CURRENT. DESIGNATION AND IT ADDS A FEW. CAN YOU JUST SUMMARIZE THOSE ADS AGAIN? IT HAS INDUSTRIAL TYPE USES. SO IF INDUSTRIAL USES ARE GOING IN THERE. AND WHERE WE'VE RECEIVED PROPOSALS FOR, UM, INDUSTRIAL ZONING. THIS IS THE LAND USE IN THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP. THE BEST FITS THAT, SO IT'S KIND OF JUST LINING WITH THOSE USES OF.WE HAVE FIVE MAJOR PROPERTY OWNERS DOWN THERE, OF WHICH ALL FIVE HAVE TALKED TO US ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR USES CORRECT THAT'S CORRECT IN THIS AREA, AND WE'VE GOT PROPERTY OWNERS FURTHER TO THE WEST AS WELL. TIME AND THEY'RE ALL ON BOARD WITH THIS. THE PROPERTY OWNERS? YES, BECAUSE THEY'VE ALL LIVED UNDER THE LIKE WE SAID ALL THE MAJOR PROPERTY OWNERS DOWN THERE HAVE TALKED TO US ABOUT. POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OF THEIR PROPERTY AND INDUSTRIAL USE, SO AND THEY WERE ALL NOTIFIED ABOUT THIS. ALL THE PROPERTY OWNERS AFFECTED AND ANY OTHER FEEDBACK. I THINK HE SAID HE DIDN'T GET ANYBODY KNOW. YEAH. THEY'RE SMALL PROPERTY OWNERS THAT DIDN'T RESPOND. BUT MAYBE ITALIAN, THOSE THERE. THERE'S REALLY ONLY ONE NO. IT'S HARD.
THERE AREN'T THAT MANY PROPER TOGETHER. THERE WAS JUST PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN THE TOWN LIMITS THAT WERE NOTIFIED. SO. SO IT'S WHAT TWO HOUSES ON HERMANSON AND THAT'S IT. THOSE TWO HOUSES ON HERMANSON ART IN THE TOWN LIMITS. DON'T EAT THE MCX FARM, THE ONLY ONE IN THE TOWN ALARM. CATCH YOUR SIDE AND KEITH OKAY? AND KEITH IS HIS. GETTING DISCUSSIONS. WOULDN'T MAKE A NOTE FOR COUNCIL HERE THE WAY THIS MAP IS PRINTED. WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS TRANSITIONAL USE IS ACTUALLY STILL FLOODPLAIN. THERE IS NOT TRANSITIONAL USE IN THIS AREA.
JUST LIKE THE ORANGE SHOWS UP ON OUR PRINTED COPIES. THIS PURPLE SHADED SHOWING UP BECAUSE OF THE PINK AND THE BLUE FLOODPLAIN. THANK YOU. SO THIS AREA THAT'S HOPEFUL THAT IS BOUNDED IN THE RED SQUIGGLY LINES. IS ALL MIXED USE CURRENTLY. WITH. NO EXCEPTION THAT I CAN FOR. THAT'S CORRECT. JUST THE OVERLAP OF THE FLOODPLAIN AND THOSE ARE THOSE HIGHWAY QUARTERS. THIS IS TAKING PINK AND PURPLE AND MAKING IT ALL PURPLE. THERE IS NO OTHER CHANGES ON THIS MAP. THANK YOU. YES. AND TO FOLLOW UP ON THE POINT, MISS HARDIMAN.
THAT'S AN INTERESTING POINT. SO THERE'S ONLY TWO PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ARE IN THE TOWN.
ALL THE OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE E. T J. THIS DOESN'T AFFECT THEM UNTIL THEY COME INTO THE TOWN AND WE NEGOTIATE, BUT THIS IS A SIGNAL TO THEM AS TO WHAT WE'RE WILLING TO NEGOTIATE ON. THEN THEY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO USE THEIR PROPERTY IN THE PREVIOUS LAND USE AND THEY CAN. THEY CAN USE IT FOR WHATEVER YOU SAY WANT RIGHT NOW THERE THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO USE IT FOREVER IS NO LAND USE IN THE E T. J WE DON'T HAVE LAND USE CONTROLS IN THE DJ. NO, I KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING. WHEN THEY DECIDE TO BRING THAT IN. THAT'S GOING TO BE UNDER THE BLANKET OF THIS LAND USE CHANGE. THIS IS A CHARACTER AREA. THIS IS A THIS IS A DIRECTION. THIS IS TELLING THEM WHAT COUNSEL PREFERS, BUT COUNCIL STILL CAN DECIDE
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THROUGH ZONING. THEY CAN REZONED THE PROPERTY. OKAY. LATER ON THAT PROPERTY IS ALREADY DEVELOPED AND THEY WANT TO COME INTO THE TOWN. THEY'RE GOING TO COME AND STAND HERE AND GO AHEAD WHEN IT COMES TO THE TOWN, BUT I HAVE THIS TYPE OF ALREADY DEVELOPED PROPERTY AND WE WILL SAY YES OR NO. IT'S AWFUL ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR REDDEN? YEP I DON'T SEE THE ADVANTAGE OF WHAT YOU CAN'T DO IN A MIXED USE THAT YOU CAN DO IN A BUSINESS PART IS THAT INDUSTRIAL IS THAT THE ONLY DIFFERENCE? OR IS THERE A DIFFERENCE? THAT'S THE MAIN DISTRICT, THE MAIN THE MAIN DIFFERENCE IS IT GETS RID OF RESIDENTIAL. THAT'S THE BIGGEST DON'T SEE GETTING RID OF RESIDENTIAL AS ANY KIND OF ADVANTAGE. AND. WELL, THERE'S SOME COMPATIBILITY ISSUES WITH THE SPEEDWAY FOR ONE, BUT ALSO THE OTHER INDUSTRIAL USES SO.IF I WAS ONE OF THOSE TWO HOUSES, I THINK MY HOUSE MATTERED. EXISTING HOMES WOULD BE GRANDFATHERED IN. SO THEY WOULDN'T IT WOULDN'T AFFECT THEM AT THIS TIME. THIS IS JUST FOR FUTURE FUTURE LAND USE ARE THOSE TWO HOMES OWNED BY THE PEOPLE WHO OCCUPY THEM OR THEY OWNED BY THE PETRUS. GROUP. RESIDENTS THERE'S NO HOMES ON THE PETRUS. IT'S KEITH FAMILY AND THE CATCHER SAID. FAMILY CATCHER SAYS HAVE A HOME THERE. I DON'T THINK THEY LIVE ON SUCH AS THE KEYS PROPERTY JUST AS HIS PROPERTY AND THE MC FARM PROPERTY, WHICH IS THE MCPHERSON'S, WHICH IS. MM. UNDER CONTRACT, OKAY, BECAUSE THERE WERE SOME DOWN ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF HARM INTS IN THE PETRAEUS TRACK. THERE WERE SOME HOMES DOWN THERE A WHILE AGO.
YOU KNOW THEY'RE THEY'RE STILL THERE. THOSE RESIDENTS ARE NOT OWNERS, THOUGH. CORRECT CORRECT.
OKAY THANK YOU. WELL KNOW THEIR OWNERS THEIR THEIR CAR THERE IN THE E. T J. THEY'RE NOT THE TOWN SO THEY DIDN'T GET A NOTICE SO. OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S HELPFUL CLARITY. BECAUSE THE WAY WE HAVE IT MARKED HERE. IT LOOKS LIKE THE PETRUS BUBBLE. TRACKS OVER THOSE PROPERTIES. SO IT'S. USEFUL TO KNOW THAT THOSE ARE CARVED OUT OF THEIR HOMESTEADS. OKAY.
THANK YOU. COUNSELORS FURTHER DISCUSSION. ALL RIGHT, YOUR CONSIDERATION. SHOULD IMPROVE.
HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE FROM MAYOR PRO TEM DO I HAVE A SECOND? HAVE A SECOND FROM PLACE TO ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ALL RIGHT. ANY OPPOSED. RIGHT? GOOD ONE DAY. ONE DAY. I M H. ORDINANCE TO UPDATE THE MASTER THOROUGHFARE
[5.H. Approval of an Ordinance on the Master Thoroughfare Plan amendment to amend the 2016 Master Thoroughfare Plan Update as amended, by replacing the Master Thoroughfare Plan Map]
PLAN TO AMEND AS NEEDED. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF, UH, OF ITEMS HERE TONIGHT. WE DO HAVE TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING. YOU NEED TO GET A SUMMARY OF EACH ITEM, PLEASE. AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN WE'LL HAVE DISCUSSION AFTER THAT. ALL RIGHT. MAYOR. THE MAIN IMPETUS OF THIS MASS RESERVE FOR PLAN AMENDMENT. WAS TO LINE UP WITH THE DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY THAT WE JUST DISCUSSED AND THAT CATHERINE BRANCH AREA AND NOW WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN AMENDMENT TO REFLECT THAT CHANGE AS WELL. SO IF YOU'LL NOTICE THE, UH UNDER THE PROPOSED MESS WITH THEIR FAIR PLAN. THE BIGGEST CHANGES ARE IN THAT AREA JUST NORTH OF THE SPEEDWAY AND THE CATHERINE BRANCH OR YOU'LL SEE A LOT MORE OF THAT. YELLOW M TWO U TYPE STREET, WHICH IS, UH, PRIMARILY FOR INDUSTRIAL AREAS. IT'S A EXTRA WIDE, TWO LANE TO LANE ROAD. MM. SO THAT THAT WAS ONE OF THE CHANGES. YOU ALSO SEE THAT THE NETWORK OF STREETS IN THAT AREA ISN'T NEARLY AS DENSE AS IT USED TO BE, BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE. THESE LARGE BOXES THERE TO SERVE, SO YOU DON'T NEED IT AS A DENSE OF A STREET NETWORK. IT ALSO REFLECTS A CHANGE IN ALIGNMENTS. UM. AND WORKING WITH SOME OF THESE PROPOSED INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENTS, INCLUDING THE MCX FARM DEVELOPMENT, WHICH WILL DISCUSS MORE ON THIS AGENDA. UM. AND WHILE WE'RE TAKING A LOOK AT THOSE CHANGES THAT WERE NECESSARY, DECIDED TO GO UP AND GO IN AND DO SOME OTHER CLEANUP ITEMS. ANOTHER IS CHANGING THE ALIGNMENTS OF 11, 71 AND FM 47 TO MATCH THE. THE PREFERRED ALIGNMENTS THAT TEXT DOT HAS CHOSEN, UH, FOR THOSE THOROUGHFARES. AND THEN ALSO. SOME FURTHER CLEANUP ITEMS IN,[01:00:02]
UH TO KIND OF ADJUSTMENT OF COLLECTORS, STREET ALIGNMENTS AND. THE CON SQUARE. AND, UM, HARVEST. ALSO AN UPDATE IN ALIGNMENT OF ELM PLACE AND PECAN SQUARE, AS WELL AS UPGRADING THAT TO M FOUR D SECTION FOR LING DIVIDED UM. ANOTHER CLEANUP ITEM WAS THE CHANGE FROM M TO YOU TO A COLLECTOR AND FOR A COUPLE LOWER DENSITY AREAS IN THE RANCH PRESERVATION AREA. SPECIFICALLY HE CAN CEMETERY ROAD IN THE FAR NORTH PART OF TOWN. AND FOUGHT ROAD AS WELL. THESE ON OUR CURRENT PLAN OR IDENTIFIED AS INTO YOU, WHICH IS REALLY MORE APPROPRIATE FOR IT'S TWO LANES BUT MORE APPROPRIATE FOR INDUSTRIAL AREAS. COLLECTOR REALLY FITS THE, UH, THE LOWER DENSITY RESIDENTIAL BETTER. IT'S ALSO A TWO LANE SECTION. THAT LESS IMPACTFUL FROM A RIGHT OF WAY. PERSPECTIVE. YES THAT'S CORRECT. I SEEM LESS COST AS WELL. THAT'S ABOUT THE SAME FROM A RIGHT AWAY. PERSPECTIVE ALLOWS FOR A. RURAL DEVELOPMENT OPTION WITH BAR DITCHES. WE DON'T HAVE ONE OUTLINE FOR THE MTU SECTION. NO OKAY? WHY WOULDN'T WE WHILE WE'RE DOING THIS, UH. BEEN TALKING ABOUT SEVERAL TIMES, JUSTIN ROAD AND EVELYN BEING ALIGNED. WHY WOULDN'T WE PUT THAT IN HERE AS WELL? UM. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT. THAT WE HAVE DISCUSSED AND BECAUSE WE HAVE ALREADY RECEIVED AN APPLICATION THAT'S IN THE WORKS FOR THOSE PROPERTIES. WE CAN'T KIND OF CHANGE THAT ALIGNMENT ON THEM NOW THAT WOULD APPLY TO THEM. WE WILL UNDERSTAND, BUT IF IT'S THAT FALL SOON, FALSE TRUE, WHY NOT HAVE IT UPDATED? THAT IS WE'RE DOING THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD. WE CAN INCLUDE IF THAT'S AN AMENDMENT THAT THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO ADD.CONNECTION SO WELL. SO YOU'RE SAYING SORRY, JUST I'M LOOKING AT IT HERE. THERE'S THAT LITTLE LITTLE JOG AND OLD JUSTIN AND EVELIN THAT THAT'S ALL YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. IS THAT A PEACE MAKING? THEM ACROSS MHM A LINE. AS PART OF THAT, I THINK THAT IT'S ONLY PERTINENT THAT. WE MAKE THAT ADJUSTMENT WHILE WE'RE MAKING ADJUSTMENTS, THIS MAP AND IF SOMEBODY ELSE IS NOT EFFECTIVE BECAUSE THE GRANDFATHER CLAUSE OR ANYTHING ELSE, THAT'S FINE, BUT MOVING FORWARD. IT'S ON THE MAP. ANOTHER THING IS WE THE ONLY ALIGNMENTS THAT WE'RE CHANGING THIS TOWARD TO REFLECT ACTUAL ALIGNMENT THAT HAVE BEEN CONSTRUCTED. OR LIKE THE TEXT DOT PREFERRED ALIGNMENTS OR THAT WERE PLANNED IN THE INDUSTRIAL AREA, SO THEY'RE ALL KIND OF KNOWN THINGS WE WEREN'T PROPOSING ANY OTHER. CHANGES. BUT IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO ADD. ABSOLUTELY WE CAN DO ANYTHING THAT MAP THAT WE CHOOSE AT THIS TIME. SO. COUNSELORS I DID SAY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PRESENTATION AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE PUBLIC HEARING. I'M FINE TO OPEN IT UP. SO DON'T FEEL LIKE YOU CAN'T SAY ANYTHING. IT'S ALREADY BEEN OPENED UP. SO CARRY ON. WE CAN TALK. AND THEN WE CAN HAVE THE PUBLIC COME AND TALK AND WE CAN TALK SOME MORE. SO GO AHEAD. IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SHARE AT THIS POINT. CAN YOU CONFIRM WHICH ONE OF THESE DAYS IS CORRECT? THESE ARE NOT THE SAME IN THESE TWO. YEAH, I WAS GOING TO MENTION THAT THE COUNSELOR BOYER HAD ALREADY CONTACTED ME THIS. PLEASE JUST LOOK AT THE ROADS. THIS ISN'T THE CORRECT E T J ALIGNMENT. WE DON'T HAVE THE CORRECT BASE MAP ON THAT. WE JUST USED WHAT WAS EXISTING ON THIS MAP, SO UM YEAH.
APOLOGIZE AND THEN ALSO, I'D LIKE TO ANSWER. AD COUNCIL THAT THIS FALL WILL, UH. IMPANELED THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT THE LAND USE ASSUMPTIONS AND THEY AN UPDATE. UM, THE MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN, SO WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH A TOP DOWN OR UP. BOTTOM UP TOP DOWN REVIEW OF THIS WITH THAT ADVISER COMMITTEE AND BRING IT BACK TO YOU. PROBABLY THIS THIS WINTER, SO WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. IF THE MAYOR PROTEIN WILL ALLOW US WILL UPDATE THAT PART OF THE MAP AT THAT AT THAT TIME. UM, THESE ARE. MORE KNOWN STUFF, BUT MORE PROJECTED STUFF WILL HAVE THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
LOOK AT THAT. PER YEAR PER YEAR DIRECTION. THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE MORE APPROPRIATE TO INCLUDE AT THAT TIME SO THAT THAT CHANGES ACTUALLY NOTICED THIS WAY. IF SOMEBODY WAS, UH. WAS LOOKING INTO WHAT THIS CHANGE WAS, AND THEY DIDN'T SEE IT ON THE MAP. THEY WOULDN'T THINK THAT IT WAS BEING CHANGED AT THIS MEETING. ACTUALLY REALLY LEGALLY NOT ALLOWED TO ADJUST THAT BECAUSE THIS MAP HAS BEEN NOTICED. RIGHT? BUT THANK YOU. QUESTIONS IF WE MAKE AN
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ADJUSTMENT IS THEIR LEGAL JEOPARDY FORCE. THANK YOU. AND IF WE MAKE CHANGES, DOES IT HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE COMMITTEE? FOR RE APPROVAL, OR DOES IT JUST GET APPROVED BY NO JUST GETS APPROVED BY YOU? THE YEAR. PLANNING HIS OWN IN COMMISSION. THANK YOU. FOR THAT REMINDER DIDN'T DID REVIEW THESE CHANGES AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL AT THEIR LAST MEETING.A COUPLE QUESTIONS. IF YOU DON'T MIND IF NO ONE ELSE HAS ANY, UM. THE MULTI LANE, THE EMU FOR ALL THOSE ARE THOSE OVER UNDER. WITH REGARD TO 35. WHICH ONE OF THOSE GO OVER. I KNOW THERE'S A. ON RAMP UP THERE OFF OF CLEVELAND, GIBBS, OR IT LOOKS LIKE THERE IS RIGHT NOW, BUT. GOT ONE DEAD, ENDING INTO 35. AND. TO THE RIGHT. BOTH MONKEY AND DENTON CREEK.
BOTH OF THOSE ARE, UH. PROPOSED BY TEXTILE, AT LEAST THE EARLY PLANS WE'VE SEEN TO GO OVER 35 W. THREE OF THEM. JUST IN BLUE ONES. THE RED ONE WILL NOT, UH, NOT GO OVER RELIGIOUS TERMINATING TO THE FRONT OF DRUG. AND ALL THOSE ARE ON THE CURRENT PLAN. NOTHING IS CHANGING IN THAT AREA. I HAD THE SAME COMMENT THAT, UM. COUNCIL MEMBER MARKET. MONTINI HAD ABOUT OLD JUSTIN WROTE A LINING. AND THEN I HAD A COUPLE QUESTIONS ABOUT HOLDER ROAD ON THE NORTH, WHERE IT HITS STRAIGHTER. WHY DOES IT TAKE THAT JOG? UNDERSTAND THAT INTERSECTION? THERE ISN'T THE BEST. BUT AREN'T YOU GOING TO ADD LANES AND RIGHT AWAY ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THAT ROAD RIGHT NOW IT'S TWO LINE THAT LOOKS LIKE A FOUR LANE. UNDIVIDED.
THAT THAT JOB COULD, UH COULD BE REMOVED. NOW. THAT WAS ON THE INITIAL THOROUGHFARE PLAN.
THAT COLLECTOR WAS TO CONTINUE NORTH OF STRAIGHTER, BUT THAT WAS REMOVED TO BETTER ALIGN WITH THE LOWER DENSITY DEVELOPMENT. A PLAN FOR THE AREA. SO I THINK THE MAIN REASON FOR THAT IS TO ALIGN WITH THAT CONTINUATION. BUT ALSO TO REMOVE THE INTERSECTION FROM THE CURVE ON STRAIGHTER MAKES THAT A LITTLE BIT SAFER INTERSECTION. YOU REALLY YOU USUALLY WANT TO INTERSECT AT 90 DEGREE ANGLES. BUT IF YOU ADD RIGHT AWAY AND LANES TO THE SOUTH OF THAT ROAD YOU'RE GOING TO EFFECTIVELY STRAIGHTEN IT OUT. IF YOU YOU DO IT CORRECTLY CAN ADD TO THE SOUTH SIDE. WIN 1 56 AND HOLD HER AND TO THE NORTH SIDE. WAYNE HOLDER. IN FLORENCE. YOU'VE GOT ESSENTIALLY STRAIGHT ROAD, RIGHT? IT COULD BE. IT COULD BE STRAIGHT, SO IT DOESN'T HAVE TO WORK. AS IS IT DOESN'T OKAY DOESN'T HAVE TO CROSS OVER SOME IN THE CORNER OF SOMEONE'S PROPERTY IS WHAT I'M GETTING AT. AND THESE THE MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN SIMILAR TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THESE ARE VERY HIGH LEVEL PLANS.
THESE AREN'T. PACIFIC THE LINES GOT TO BE RIGHT THERE. THIS IS KIND OF A GENERAL ALIGNMENT IN THAT AREA. THE LAST PARAGRAPH IN YOUR IN YOUR PACKET. THE ACTUAL ALIGNMENT WILL BE REFINED OVER TIME AS DESIGN AND INJURING PLANS. SPECIFICATIONS ARE PREPARED. THIS IS MAINLY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WHAT SIZE ROADS WE NEED TO MOVE ALL THE TRAFFIC AND HIS, NATHAN SAID. A LOT OF THESE UP IN THE RURAL AREA WERE DOWNGRADED FROM ORIGINAL PLAN, SO IT'S MORE ABOUT. HOW DO YOU GET FROM POINT A TO POINT B. HOW MANY VEHICLES ARE GOING TO BE ON THAT WHAT TYPES OF VEHICLES ARE GOING TO BE ON THAT THE ACTUAL ALIGNMENT? WE'RE WE WORK WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, DECISIONS AS FAR AS EASTMAN ACQUISITION, WORKING WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO SEE WHERE THEY WOULD LIKE THAT ALIGNMENT. THE EXAMPLE DOWN. ON THE MCPHERSON TRACK WAS, UM, THAT MATCHED THE NEEDS OF THAT PROPERTY OWNER IN THAT DEVELOPER, SO WE WERE SNAPPING THEM TO HIM AND TECH START HAS. TOLD US WHERE THOSE ROADS WILL BE NOW, SO WE'RE MATCHING UP TO THOSE. THE ROADS AND PECAN SQUARE HAVE BEEN BUILT. SO WE'RE JUST REFLECTING THOSE. SO REALLY, IT'S A IT'S A IT'S LIKE, NATHAN SAID. IT'S KIND OF A BIG PICTURE, BUT IT'S MAINLY DO WE HAVE ENOUGH CAPACITY TO GET. PROJECTED TRAFFIC THROUGHPUT, RIGHT. APPRECIATE THAT I WOULD JUST LIKE TO GET IT AS CORRECT AS POSSIBLE, BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES THESE DOCUMENTS ARE USED. TO PLAYING ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. IT'S BEEN ON THE MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN FOR YEARS, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. SO IF WE CAN GET THOSE STRAIGHTENED UP, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT AND THERE'S ANOTHER ONE. RIGHT THERE. AT. WERE DEAD ENDS INTO. IT'S THE IT'S ATTRACT BETWEEN SEE BEING, UM AND. KNOX PROPERTY THE
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PROPERTY. THAT ROAD TAKES A JOB AS WELL AS IT HITS FLORENCE. FAITH LANE. YES. RIGHT THIS FURTHER. IT'S THAT MEANS I'LL JUST IN. YOU KNOW JUSTIN AND 407. THAT'S FAITH LINE ISN'T FAITH IN AN EVELYN MHM. OH, YES. DISAPPEAR. THE ONE IN THE SOUTH IS FAITH, RIGHT? YOU WANT THOSE TO OPEN THEN YOU TAKE LIFE GOES STRAIGHT UP. AT THE BOTTOM. THE REASON FOR THE JOG AND FAITH THERE IS TO GET AROUND A GAS. WELL, THAT'S THEIR SON. GAS WELLS ON THEM.IF YOU WENT ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF IT, YOU JUST BE ON THE SOUTH SIDE. SO JUST GOING ON THE NORTH SIDE PERSON SOUTH SIDE. IT DOESN'T IT DOESN'T SIT ON THE PROPERTY. RIGHT? THE PIZZA IS PRETTY NEAR THE PROPERTY LINE FROM WHAT I RECALL, AND THEN THAT THAT I BELIEVE WAS THE REASONING FOR JOGGING THAT OVER, BUT STRAIGHTEN THAT OUT. THE LAST CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE, OR WE CAN DO IT NOW, UM. AGAIN. I WE TALKED ABOUT. THESE ARE. THESE ARE VERY GENERAL, THE ACTUAL ALIGNMENT WILL BE DECIDED. AT THAT TIME OF DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING, SO IF THERE'S A WAY TO GET THROUGH STRAIGHT THAT WORKS, THAT'S THE MAIN GOAL IS TO HAVE THESE ROADS CONNECTED AND GO STRAIGHT. THAT THAT WOULD MEET THE MEET THE PLAN.
ARE THEY DEVELOPING THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY RIGHT NOW, OR PORTION THEREOF. YES, THAT IS CORRECT, BUT BECAUSE IT WAS ONLY DEVELOPED AS TO LOTS. THAT A COLLECTOR STREET WASN'T EVEN DEEMED NECESSARY. SO THERE'S. AND THEY HAVEN'T FINAL PLANTED THAT SECOND LOT, SO THERE'S BEEN NO DEDICATION OR EVEN PLANNED FOR A CONTINUATION OF THE COLLECTOR. REALLY? THE COLLECTORS ARE ONLY NEEDED, IF THERE'S ENOUGH DEVELOPMENT TOWARDS IT. WHAT ABOUT THOUGHT? I'M KIND OF FEEL LIKE FAULT ROADS BEEN THE STEP CHILD OF OUR ROADS BECAUSE IT HASN'T GOTTEN TOO TERRIBLY MUCH ATTENTION, AND I MEAN IT'S A NARROW POTHOLE FILLED ROAD. AND TRUCKS AND CARS STILL TAKE THAT ROAD AND WITH THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT WE'VE GOT COMING ON THE NORTH SIDE OF FAITH. THAT ALL THAT'S GOING TO BE DEVELOPED AND THEY'RE ALL GOING TO USE FAULT ROAD. WHY DOES THAT REMAIN A COLLECTOR? THE I THINK THOUGHTS CURRENT WITH IS ABOUT 22 FT. THE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS OF THE TOWN IS PLANNING NORTH OF ALL JUSTIN ROAD. I BELIEVE WE'LL GET 24 FT. A COLLECTOR. IF IT'S UH, URBAN STYLE WITH. URBAN GUNNER WOULD BE 37 FT OF PAVEMENT. IF IT'S A RURAL SECTION WITH BAR DITCHES WOULD BE 36 FT. SO THAT'S STILL QUITE A BIT. THAT'S ALMOST LIKE A LANE WATER THAT ALLOWS EXTRA ROOM FOR TURNING LANES AND. TURNING MOVEMENT, AND THAT WOULD BE FAIRLY DIFFICULT TO TURN THAT INTO A FOUR LANE DIVIDED ROAD ON THOUGHT, CONSIDERING HOW MANY HOUSES HAVING NOT RIGHT AWAY. BE, UH, IT'S ALREADY TAKING US A LONG TIME TO WIDEN FOUGHT TO WHAT OUR CURRENT PLAN IS TO GO EVEN BIGGER. THAT MANY DRIVEWAYS ON THAT ROAD. IT WAS THE RIGHT AWAY RIGHT NOW. NOT LIKE FLORENCE. RIGHT AWAY. WE'VE WE'VE BEEN GETTING, I THINK 60 TO 70 FT, DEPENDING ON WHEN, UH, DEVELOPMENT WAS PLANTED. SO. MINIMUM OF 60. FT IS NECESSARY TO BUILD A COLLECTOR STREET. REALLY ALL THEY HAVE ON FLORENCE IS 80 FT, RIGHT? 80 FT. UNLESS FOR EXCEPT FOR DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED RECENTLY. NEXT TO IT, AND WE'VE GOT, UH. SHOULD HAVE 100 100 FT, OR 50 FT FROM THE CENTER LINE. I THINK THAT THE POINT THAT NEEDS TO BE MADE HERE IS IN ORDER TO DO THIS EFFECTIVELY. YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE THE UPDATED NUMBERS FROM THE CAPITAL PLAN TO FEED THIS TO SAY, WHERE ARE ALL THE FUTURE HOME IS GOING TO BE THAT WE KNOW ABOUT AT THIS POINT? YOU BEGGED THAT INTO YOUR NUMBERS, IT FEEDS INTO THE MODEL. THE MODEL TELLS US WHERE THE RECOMMENDED CHANGES ARE BASED ON THE TYPE IN THE CATEGORY, AND THEN YOU GO THROUGH ROAD BY ROAD AND MAKE YOUR PROPOSALS FOR HOW YOU CHANGE THIS. IT ISN'T SOMETHING THAT I WOULD RECOMMEND. WE CHANGE ANYTHING THAT'S NOT BEEN NOTICED. THAT'S MY RECOMMENDATION TO YOU TONIGHT, BUT I DO RECOMMEND STAFF THAT YOU TAKE A NOTE OF
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EVERY LAST ONE OF THESE AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSED AND ANSWERED TO WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT, BECAUSE WE WILL WANT TO KNOW. WHY IS IT THAT FAITH LANE STILL PROPOSED TO GO TO THE NORTH? WHAT IS THE SPECIFIC REASON WHY SO THE COUNCIL CAN WEIGH THAT IN THEIR DECISION AS TO WHETHER TO ACCEPT THAT OR NOT. THE SAME GOES FOR EVERY OTHER PROPOSAL HERE TONIGHT. UM BUT I WOULD PREFER IF WE DIFFERED ALL THESE TO THE. THE PROCESS THAT'S NECESSARY IN ORDER TO DO THIS PROPERLY. TABLE. NO, BECAUSE THE ONES THAT ARE NOTICED OR ONES THAT ARE BASED ON EXISTING CHANGES. MAY I ASK A QUESTION? SURE WHY HAVE WE CHANGE PECAN SQUARE? BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT THE ROADS WERE GOING TO MOSTLY DUMP INTO CLEVELAND, GIBBS. UH, NOW THAT'S NOT HAPPENING. AND WE'VE TAKEN A ROAD THAT. WAS GOING TO BE STRAIGHT ACROSS 407, OR WE COULD PROBABLY HAVE HAD A RED LIGHT AND PUT IT DEAD ENDING AND THEN MOVING IT OVER AND GOING NORTH. 20 TALKING ABOUT RIGHT HERE. WE SEE HOW THAT NO LONGER CROSSES RIGHT THERE. I THINK IT DID CROSS RIGHT THERE.YEAH. DIDN'T WE HAD TWO SMALL STREETS GOING TO KEEP THEM GOOD. ONE LARGE ONE THAT'S SO MORE LIKELY TO GET A LIKE WE HAD THREE STREETS GOING TO CLEVELAND GIVES. THERE ARE SMALLER ONES HAS KIND OF BEEN COMBINED INTO ONE LARGE FOUR LANE. AND L IN PLACE. EAT MORE THAN. THERE'S ALSO AN EXTRA ENTRANCE SIGNS OF MULKEY. IT'S FOLLOWING THE DESIGN OF WHAT'S BEEN BUILT. THAT'S WHY WE'RE CHANGING IT NOW. WHY DIDN'T THEY BUILD IT THE WAY THEY TOLD US THEY WERE GOING TO. WELL, HE DID IN THE PLAT. YEAH, THE PLANT THAT WAS THE PLANTS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED. JUST THIS IS CATCHING UP. SO WHAT DECISIONS WERE MADE IN THE PAST? ORIGINALLY THIS WAS BASED OFF OF, UH. YEAH CONCEPT PLANNED BEFORE THEY GOT IN TO THE DETAILS OF PLANNING OUT AND PLANNING THE DEVELOPMENT THINK THAT'S THE HARD PART IS WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS ENTIRE MAP IS A HYPOTHETICAL YES, AND THE COLLECTOR STREETS ARE THE ONES THAT CHANGES THE MOST RIGHT TO THE THINGS THAT DON'T EXIST ON HERE. THEY ARE HYPOTHETICAL. THERE'S THE DIRECTION WE WANT TO GO IN THE DIRECTION. THE TEXTILES TOLD US. WE WANT TO GO, BUT. WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO ACTUALLY MAKING SOMETHING HAPPEN. WHILE THAT HAPPENS WHEN A ZONING CHANGE HAPPENS, THAT HAPPENS WHEN EVERY PLOT HAPPENS LIKE THE DOCUMENTS THAT'S USED TO DEFEND RODEWAY. THEY USE THIS DOCUMENT TO DEFENDANT IF IT'S NOT CORRECT. THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN INCORRECT ROAD BUILT. I JUST PREFER THAT THINGS GET PASSED CORRECTLY AND THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY. ANY THINGS THAT ARE LAGGING OR DECISIONS NEED TO BE MADE ON THEM. AND THAT'S WHERE STAFF SAID THEY'RE GOING TO READ. ADDRESS THIS TOP DOWN, BOTTOM UP. IN A COUPLE MONTHS. IT'S NOT. WELL, WE CAN STILL MAKE THESE EFFECTIVE CHANGES THAT REFLECT REALITY, AND THEN THEY CAN CONTINUE WORKING ON IT. THAT'S THE PROPOSAL IS TO GET THIS AS CLOSE TO ACTUAL STUFF WITHOUT CHANGING ANY HYPOTHETICALS. THIS IS JUST CHANGING TO REFLECT THE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT. AND PROPOSED TO US. IT'S NOT INTENDED TO DO AN OVERHAUL OF ALL THE PROPOSED ONES UNTIL WE DO THE MODELS LITTLE BIT LATER IN THE YEAR. SO LET'S REFLECT REALITY AND THEN YOUR HYPOTHETICALS LATER. THE BIGGEST CHUNK OF WHAT THAT IS. WE'VE HAD ISSUES IN THE PAST WHERE WE'VE SAID IT'S ON OUR THOROUGHFARE PLAN. YOU HAVE TO DO THAT IF YOU'RE CHANGING THE LAND USE RIGHT? AND WE'RE SAYING IT'S HYPOTHETICAL AND THAT THAT'S A CHALLENGE FOR ME, SO BECAUSE WE'VE HAD ONE POINT OF CONTENTION AROUND EVELYN VERY RECENT TIMES. THAT'S I UNDERSTAND MISS HARMON'S POINTS AS WELL. BUT I KNOW THAT THIS IS GOING TO CONTINUE THE A POINT OF CONTENTION, AND I'D LIKE TO. MAKE MOTION OF STILL GONNA INCLUDE THAT WANT TO HURRY? WE'LL HANG ON FOR THAT.
WE CAN'T CAN'T MAKE MOTIONS. UM AND JUST HOLD THE GENERAL OPINIONS ON IT UNTIL WE HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK TO IT AND WE CAN CONTINUE. BUT ARE WE AT A POINT WHERE WE WANT TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC NOW? THAT WAS PUT ENOUGH ON THE TABLE, SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND DO THAT. 6 52 PM CAN WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING? ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THE TOPIC. COULD YOU COME UP? INTRODUCE YOURSELF? T MIND APPRECIATE IT. THANKS, DENNIS.
BRUSH MY LEVEL OF FLORENCE. I'M LOOKING AT THAT ROGER HAMMERING FAITH ALL THE WAY THROUGH FLORENCE. OKAY? THAT'S THE PROPOSAL. FOR WHAT REASON? NUMBER TWO EVELYN ROAD COUNTRY THERE. ARE NOT MAINTAINED AS IT IS. THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF. IT'S TOO MUCH SPECULATION
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COMING IN HERE AND MY OPINION, IT'S NOT ALWAYS WELCOME, BUT I KNOW TRUE. BUT YOU'RE WASTING A LOT OF TIME TO SPECULATION LIKE MISS PARDON SAYS THERE'S NOT RIGHT. ROADS COMING IN HERE AND FAITH THROWN OUR WEIGHT. 1 56. COME ON, PAT. BRING RIGHT NOW. THAT'S FLOODPLAINS 47 GOING THROUGH ALL THE WAY TO 1 56. THE PART DURING THAT LANDS FOR SALE RIGHT NOW. TYLER'S GOT ENOUGH FOR SIX. MEGA BUCKS IN THE SONG CALLED MEGA DOLLARS TO COME THROUGH THAT FLOOD POINT.THE REALITY OF WHAT WE'RE ARGUING ABOUT. SEEMS TO ME. WASTE OF TIME. AS IS WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR THAT I NEED TO GET BACK DOING MY WORK. FLORENCE ROAD GOING THROUGH. ALL THE WAY DOWN THAT LITTLE JOB THERE. NO PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES OF THAT PROPERTY. I'M JUST DOWN THE ROAD FROM HIM. AND IT SEEMS THERE'S GOTTA BE A BETTER WAY TO MAKE THAT WORK. ALSO. TAKE A LOOK. ROBIN PETER TO PAY PAUL BE A GOOD THING. WHAT'S EASY SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE WHEN I PUT THAT RODE THROUGH THE FIRST TIME IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO ALL THESE SPECULATIONS SPECULATIONS AND EVERYTHING YOU DO. THERE'S A LOT ABOUT THIS, AND THIS IS MY FIRST TIME TO SEE IT. IF I WAS I'M IN THAT AREA. I MEAN, E T. J. AND IT MAKES NO SENSE TO BE. DOING ALL THAT? JUST BECAUSE YOU GOT A VOLLEYBALL COURT COME THROUGH HER. SORRY. IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE THERE'S TOO MUCH BEING TAMBIEN SPENT CATERING TO BUSINESS. THINGS STRAIGHTER ROAD IS TERRIBLE.
SOMEBODY OVER HERE CONVINCED, AND I TURNED INTO COMPLAINT WITH A SHOVEL AND A HOLE IN MY TRUCK WENT THROUGH AND GOT NOTHING OUT DIDN'T WANT ANYTHING BUT ONE THEY JUST THROW AND THROW A WASTEFUL ASPHALT IN THAT ROAD. THAT'S A MAIN THOROUGHFARE. THESE OTHERS ARE SPECULATE. LET'S GET SOME MONEY ON THE MAIN THOROUGHFARES WITH THE TRAFFIC WILL MOVE.
EVERYBODY CATCH THROUGH THAT WAY TO AVOID 47 IN THE TOWN. MY OPINION ONLY FREE AS FAR AS A SEMI RESIDENT. BE SOONER OR LATER, WHEN YOU ANNEX ME IN. SAY NO SENSE OF NOT BRINGING FAITH THROUGH THERE AND SPENDING THE MONEY WHEN YOU CAN FIX WHAT WE HAVE AND MAKE CONSERVATIVE. CAN I CLARIFY? SO YOU'RE YOU'RE ASKING US TO TAKE OFF THE FAITH LANE COLLECTOR.
DOES HE ASK? YEAH. OKAY. GO ALL THE WAY THROUGH. TOO MANY LANDOWNERS, RIGHT? SO YOU HEARD THE DISCUSSION ABOUT WHETHER THAT'S VIABLE OR NOT. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. SO THAT'S NOT PROPOSED TO CHANGE TONIGHT. EXCEPT FOR THE CHANGE. MISS HARDIMAN IS PROPOSING. WATCHING THEM ABSOLUTELY IS SET TO BE. RIGHT. SO THE WHOLE THE WHOLE MAP OVERHAUL IS HAPPENING LATER THIS YEAR THAT THAT'S THE POINT THE ONES THAT ARE UNDER PROPOSAL TONIGHT ARE JUST THE ONES THAT ARE LISTED WITH THE ADDITION OF ANYTHING THAT COUNCILLORS WANT TO THROW IN. AS FAR AS STRAIGHT AS CONCERNED. WE HAVE. WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT STRAIGHTER IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE COUNTY. JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE, BUT IT'S A VERY EXPENSIVE PROPOSITION FOR US. SO IT IS UNDER CONSIDERATION THE MAIN THOROUGHFARE.
UNDERSTAND CHECK THE TRAFFIC OVER. YEP COUNTIES, COUNTY IS VERY INTERESTED IN IT. SO WHERE WE ARE TO. OKAY SO I GOT THE FAITH AND STRAIGHTER. THOSE ARE THE TWO KEY POINTS FROM HERE.
THE JOB THERE, SO YOU DON'T LIKE EVELYN EITHER. I JUST I JUST WANT TO GET IT FOR THE RECORD, SO I UNDERSTAND SO WE CAN DOCUMENT IT FOR LATER. YOU DON'T WANT FAITH IN EVELYN COLLECTORS, ANYONE STRAIGHTER TO BE REBUILT THOSE THOSE THREE GOOD ROAD FOR EVERYTHING INSTEAD AHEAD OF MUNCHEN. HALFWAY ROAD FOR NOTHING. OKAY, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET THROUGH A LOT OF THOSE PLACES ANYTIME SOON, ANYWAY. WELL THAT EASY J STUFF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, REALLY HAD NO CONTROL UNTIL IT COMES IN AND YOU KNOW, OKAY. RIGHT? NO, I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A NOTE. MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD THAT. DID YOU GET UM YOU GOT A NAME AND DOCUMENTED EVERYTHING OKAY? EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. VERY GOOD AND THE OTHERS WANT TO SPEAK TONIGHT.
ALRIGHT 6. 57 PM LET'S CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. THANK YOU FOR YOUR FEEDBACK APPRECIATE.
OUR COUNSELORS IS BACK TO YOU WHAT YOU WANT TO DO WITH THIS? IS THERE ANYTHING THAT STAFF? IS THERE ANYTHING ON HERE? THAT'S OF PARTICULAR IMPORTANCE TO ANYTHING WE'RE DOING OTHER THAN JUST CLEANING IT UP, SO IT REFLECTS REALITY. DOES THIS AFFECT ANYTHING AT THE MOMENT THESE THIS LIST IS AN IMPORTANT OR COULD IT WAIT TILL THE END? YEAH MAY NEED TO GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS THAT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE TO GO THERE LATER, ANYWAY. DO WE WANNA GO HERE THAT LATER AND COME BACK TO THIS? OKAY. ALL RIGHT, UH, WE JUST LEAVE IT OPEN AND STEP TO THE NEXT ONE. WE NEED TO TABLE IT OR WE NEED TO VOTE ON IT. YES, JUST SAVE WE'LL COME BACK TO IT. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. EXCELLENT UM, I WE NEED TO
[5.I. Approval of a Resolution of the Town Council of the Town of Northlake, Texas, approving and authorizing the Town Manager to apply for the American Recovery Plan Act through the Texas Department of Emergency Management and accepting any and all grant funds awarded to the Town pursuant to such application]
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AUTHORIZE THE TOWN MANAGER TO APPLY FOR THE AARP OF FUNDING. UM, IN ORDER FOR US TO ACCEPT IT. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE TO THIS OTHER THAN WE'RE ALLOWING HIM TO ACCEPT IT, AND HE'S NOT ALLOWED TO SPEND IT UNTIL THE COUNCIL DECIDES AND WE UNDERSTAND HOUSES. SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS CASHING THE CHECK. OKAY, WAITING FOR YOUR INPUT. OKAY? I'VE GOT SOME INPUT, CAN THIS MONEY BE USED TO PUT UTILITIES UNDERGROUND? TO PUT. WHETHER THAT'S ELECTRICITY OR WIFE OR WHERE IT IS. WE'RE STILL, UM, GETTING, BUT SOME OF THE EARLY INFORMATION I HAVE SEEN IS FOR BROADBAND. UM. YOU HAVE TO ASSIGN A DIGITAL EQUITY OFFICER. YOU HAVE TO FIND UNDERSERVED OR UNSERVED AREAS. THERE HAS TO BE. IT NEEDS TESTED. THERE HAS TO BE, UM. UM NO PRIVATE SOURCES, BUT THERE ARE SOME OPPORTUNITIES SO WE ARE LOOKING AT BROADBAND. THE COUNTY HAS A KIND OF A REGIONAL EFFORT, SO WE'RE WAITING TO GET SEE WHAT THEY DO. AND MAYBE. PULL OUR MONEY WITH THEIRS TO HELP WITH THAT. THERE IS PROVISION. FOR WATER AND SEWER INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT I'LL LOOK AND READ ABOUT BEARING ELECTRICAL AND TELECOMMUNICATIONS SO LIKE THAT, BUT. THE INITIAL I'VE SEEN ON UTILITIES IS BROADBAND FOR UNDERSERVED AREAS AND WATER AND SEWER LINES. WOULD BE CONSIDERED UNDER SERVED, AND THEN WE'VE GOT A WHOLE LOT OF CITIZENS WHO HAVE SPOKEN TO US ABOUT. YOU KNOW, AND I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO ASK THAT QUESTION, AND I JUST DON'T KNOW YET. I THINK LOT OF THAT'S GOING TO BE MEANS TESTED. SO I DON'T KNOW IF PEOPLE THAT YOU'RE THAT ARE UNDERSERVED OR GOING TO BE ELIGIBLE PER THE FEDERAL GUIDELINES, BUT WE'LL DRILL DOWN ON THAT. WHEN THE PEOPLE WHO PAY THE TAXES CAN'T GET ANY OF THEIR MONEY BACK. I.YEAH, I DON'T KNOW. I CAN ASK THE PRESIDENT. I'LL PUT AN EMAIL INTO HIM. MHM. ALL RIGHT.
ALL RIGHT, SO THE ACTION ITEMS TO AUTHORIZE HIM TO APPLY FOR IT, AND THEN WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT WE CAN USE IT FOR IT? YES I THINK IT'S ACCEPTED. IS IT ALL RIGHT? I GOT A MOTION DOWN HERE. LET'S LET'S GOT A SECOND PLACE, ONE PLACE TO MOTION AND SECOND ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION. VERY GOOD. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. AYE, ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. EXCELLENT.
LET'S GET SOME MONEY AND THEN WE'LL FIGURE OUT WE CAN USE IT FOR ALL RIGHT, UH, ITEM J.
[5.J. Approval of an Ordinance for a Specific Use Permit (SUP) for an accessory building to be constructed on Lot 14R2, Block A, Northlake Country Estates, a 9.167-acre lot located at 2250 FM 407, the northwest corner of FM 407 and Faught Road, and zoned Rural Residential (RR). Mohammad Khan is the owner/applicant. Case # SUP-21-001.]
APPROVAL OF THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR AN ACCESSORY BUILDING. WE GOT MR REDDEN WALK US THROUGH THE PROPOSAL, PLEASE. ALL RIGHT. THIS IS A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR AN ACCESSORY BUILDING TO BE CONSTRUCTED BEFORE HOME ON THE SITE AT THE CORNER OF. 47 AND FOUGHT ROAD.IT'S A. NINE ACRE SITE THERE AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER. THAT'S VACANT, HAS A GAS OIL PADS SITE UP IN THE NORTHEAST CORNER? UM THE APPLICANT RECENTLY PURCHASED THIS PROPERTY INTENDS ULTIMATELY BUILD A HOME ON IT. I THINK FAIRLY SOON. BUT MM. BUT HAS A LOT OF EQUIPMENT THAT HE HAS PURCHASED TO MAINTAIN THE PROPERTY HAS AND HIS WANTING A BARN TO HELP HIM.
STORE THAT EQUIPMENT AND HELP MAINTAIN THE PROPERTY AND. HAVE SOME ANIMALS ON THE PROPERTY.
UM. THERE ARE A LOT OF CONSTRAINTS ON THIS SITE WITH FLOODPLAIN AND THE GUESS. WELL.
SO THE BARN AND A COUPLE OTHER STRUCTURES HE'S PLANNING IN THE FUTURE ACTUALLY ENCROACHED ON A 300 FT SETBACK THAT'S REQUIRED FROM THE GAS WELL, THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT APPROVED SETBACK VARIANCE FOR THAT SO. THAT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED. THE, UM THE APPLICANT WAS PLANNING TO BUILD THE BARN AND THE LOCATION IS SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN. THAT LOCATION BEING APPROVED BY THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS. AND THE ONLY REASON FOR THIS SPECIFIC USE PERMIT IS TO ALLOW HIM TO BUILD THE STRUCTURE BEFORE THE HOME. THE PLANNING HIS OWN IN COMMISSION. UH CONSIDERED THIS APPLICATION AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL WITH A FEW CONDITIONS THAT WAS BEING. THAT THE ACCESSORY BUILDING BE A MAXIMUM OF 2400 SQUARE FEET AS PROPOSED BY THE APPLICANT. THAT THE USE OF THE BUILDING BE LIMITED TO AGRICULTURAL PURPOSES SUCH AS STORAGE OF FOOD FOR ANIMALS.
AGRICULTURAL EQUIPMENT, GARDENING EQUIPMENT TOOLS USED TO MAINTAIN THE PROPERTY. AT THE SCP STILL EXPIRE SIX MONTHS FROM THE DATE OF APPROVAL IF A BUILDING PERMIT HAS NOT BEEN ISSUED FOR THE ACCESSORY BUILDING, AND THAT SCP SHALL AUTOMATICALLY EXPIRE UPON
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COMPLETION OF A RESIDENCE. ON THE PROPERTY AS CERTIFIED BY A FINAL INSPECTION BECAUSE S U P WOULD NO LONGER BE NECESSARY WANTS TO THE HOME IS THERE UM. AS YOU RECALL. WE DISCUSSED THIS, AND WE ARE AMENDING THAT SECTION OF THE UDC THAT REQUIRES HOME TO BE BUILT BEFORE AN ACCESSORY BUILDING. THERE IS AN ALLOWANCE IF YOU HAVE 10 ACRES OR MORE THAN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE CAN BE BUILT ON IT. WITH EXTRA SETBACKS, MINIMUM OF 100 FT FROM PROPERTY LINES OR FROM FRONTING A STREET. UM. ALSO WITH THAT THAT AMENDMENT ALLOWED FOR PROPERTIES THAT WERE BETWEEN FIVE ACRES AND 10 ACRES TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD A STRUCTURE BEFORE THE HOME IF THEY RECEIVE A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT, AND THAT'S THAT'S WHAT THIS IS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT. THE APPLICANT IS HERE ON INVITE HIM UP. TO EXPLAIN HOW HE PLANS TO USE THE BUILDING AND THE PROPERTY AND BE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. RIGHT? AS FOR MY PRESENCE HERE ANY QUESTION I COULD ANSWER. YES. THINGS. THE HOME. CAN YOU SCROLL UP JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE RIVERS NAVIGATOR. THE NEXT PAGE. THE SAME PAGE. THE ANYWAY LET ME TALK FROM THIS POSITION HERE. HOUSED WITH ALL THE RESTRICTION HAS TO BE BUILT TOWARDS 407, SO IT WILL BE CLOSER TO FOUR OR SEVEN AND ALSO ON THE WEST SIDE. SO THAT'S THE ONLY AREA WHERE THE HOUSE CAN BE BUILT. OUTSIDE THE 300 FT. ARC FROM THE GAS WELL AND THEN WHERE? WITH RELATION TO THAT DRAINAGE EASEMENT DOTTED LINE. SO IF YOU BETWEEN THE TWO DOTTED LINES OR PHOTOGRAPH. BUT IT IS GOING TO BE FROM 407. IT IS ABOUT 200 FT. INSIDE. I NEED TO BE. IT IS ABOUT 100 FT FROM THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, SO. IT WOULD BE IN THAT COURT. EASTER WEST.U S WEST 100 FT. OFF THE WEST SIDE 200 FT DEEP FROM 407, OKAY? SO IT'S IN. IT'S IN THE SOUTHWEST CORNER, RELATIVELY SPEAKING, AND ALL THE OTHER REQUIREMENTS. THAT'S WHAT THAT HOUSE NEEDS TO BE. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND NEAR TIMELINE FOR STARTING AND COMPLETING. IT WAS JULY 1ST, BUT THE LUMBER PRICES I JUST BOUGHT SOME LUMBER FOR MY CHICKEN COOP. THERE WAS $5000 AT THIS RATE. I DON'T THINK I CAN. IN A WHILE. NUMBER FOR 5000 SQUARE FEET HOME. SO HAS ALREADY COME DOWN 20. I'M HOPING ANOTHER THREE MONTHS OR SO I'M READY TO BUILD ACTUALLY.
THE RETIRED. THERE'S JUST THIS SPECIFIC USE PERMIT HAS A SIX MONTH IN IT RIGHT? ONLY SIX MONTHS TO START IS THAT CORRECT OR SIX MONTHS TO GET THE BUILDING PERMANENT? THAT'S FOR THE BAR. OKAY, OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S FOR THE BAR, OKAY? SO I'M GONNA ASK YOU A QUESTION HERE BECAUSE WE'VE WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS ABOUT BARNES AND AGRICULTURAL USAGE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I'M JUST GONNA BE FRANK WITH YOU. THIS LOOKS LIKE AN RV BARN. THIS DOES NOT LOOK ANYTHING LIKE AN AGRICULTURAL BARN. AND THEN SECONDARILY ON YOUR MAP. YOU HAVE AN RV BARN. EARN RV SHOP LISTED. THAT YOU WANT TO BUILD. I'VE NEVER SEEN AN AGRICULTURAL BUILDING IN MY LIFE THAT HAS 14 FT TALL DOORS AND 22 FT CEILING. SO THIS LOOKS THIS LOOKS TO ME LIKE AN RV BARN CHANGED MY MIND. CHANGE YOUR MIND HAVE ALREADY BOUGHT $56,000 WORTH OF FARM EQUIPMENT. SO A GUY WHO HAS NEVER DONE FARMING. FIRST THING HE DOES IS GOES AND BUYS A LOT OF FARMING EQUIPMENT. THAT'S ME. NOW, THE SECOND THING HE REALIZES THERE IS NO PLACE TO KEEP $56,000 WORTH OF STUFF. YOU NEED A BAR NOW. ALSO REMEMBER, THIS IS NOT A RECONDITIONED. THERE WILL BE NO AIR CONDITIONING HERE. THERE'S NO ELECTRICITY IN HERE.
IF YOU DON'T KEEP THE HEIGHT, IT WOULD BE SO HARD AS A METAL STRUCTURE. THAT'S THE REASON YOU HAVE SOME HEIGHT ON IT. SO THERE IS SOME WIND CIRCULATION. IF I KEEP IT AT EIGHT FT, YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO ENTER IT. BUT THE INTENTION IS REALLY YOU KNOW, UM. ABOUT 2400. IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO BE BUILT THE ACTUAL ORDER I GAVE OUT PURCHASE ORDERED THAT IT WAS 2100 SQUARE FEET JUST A LITTLE BIT SMALLER THAN WHAT YOU SEE. THIS IS THE INITIAL PLAN. THE NUMBER OF EQUIPMENT I HAVE BOUGHT AND ALL THE FEED THAT I HAVE TO KEEP. IT WILL REQUIRE THIS MUCH SPACE. LAST THING YOU WANT TO DO IS START WITH THE 1600 FT. BARN AND THEN SEE YOU NEED ANOTHER, UH, 800 FT TO ADD ON, SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT BIGGER THAN WHAT I NEED TODAY. BUT THEN AGAIN THE PROPERTY IF YOU LEAVE THE GAS WELL OUT, IT'S EIGHT ACRES OF FLAT LAND, SO I
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COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THIS, BUT I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH SIZE OR ANYTHING ELSE JUST TO ME. THIS LOOKS LIKE AND THIS LOOKS LIKE AN RV. STORAGE BUILDING. THIS DOES NOT LOOK LIKE ANY AGRICULTURAL PURPOSE. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. AND I'M NOT TRYING TO BE DIFFICULT AT ALL. BUT. I'VE NEVER SEEN DOORS LIKE THIS ON. THE WHOLE POINT. DOORS ARE A LOT SMALLER THAN THAT. IF YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT, I WILL SEND YOU THE NEW, UH. THE ACTUAL CONTRACT THAT WENT UP. I CAN SEND YOU THAT. BUT. JUST TO BE ON THE RECORD. MY NEIGHBOR 8080 FOUGHT ROAD. HAS 2400 SQUARE FEET AND HE HAS 14. FEET TALL. AND HE USES IT JUST AS A BARN. JUST NEXT TO ME. 80 80 FORT ROAD. AND I'M ONLY GOING OFF PAST COUNCIL DIRECTION IN THIS. YOU'RE JUST ASKING THE QUESTIONS BECAUSE WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION MORE TIMES. I CARE TO RECALL. THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING MY QUESTION. HOW HIGH ARE THE DOORS IN YOUR NEW PROPOSAL? I THINK THEY'RE, UH 12 FT IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. 12 FT HIGH. AND WHAT? WHAT ARE THE WHAT'S THE EQUIPMENT YOU BOUGHT? WHAT KIND OF TRACTORS AND EQUIPMENT YOU BUY? SO I BOUGHT FULL TRACTOR WITH THE BACK HALL. UH, YOU KNOW, LARGE LAWN MORE BECAUSE IT TAKES JUST THE MORE THAT PICKS $8 WITH A VERY LARGE DECK. WHICH I HAVE, AND THEN I'LL HAVE ALL THE OTHER. GETS MORE THAT YOU CAN BUY OR SALESMAN CAN SELL YOU TO CULTIVATE THE PROPERTY AND SOME OF THE THINGS I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF I'LL EVER USE IT. BUT HE WAS A GREAT SALESMAN AND I BOUGHT INTO THERE'S QUITE A FEW THINGS I HAVE. AND I HAVE A TRAILER TO CARRY ALL THOSE, WHICH IS A 20 FT TRAILER. WHAT KIND OF ANIMALS DO YOU PLAN ON? HAVE IT. VERY AMBITIOUS RIGHT NOW. I WANT TO HAVE PROBABLY ABOUT 6 TO 8. HOUSE. HORSES. LAMA IF I CAN GET IT ANY CHEAPER THAN FEW $1000 EACH UM. AND CHECK. YOU KNOW CHICKENS. OF COURSE, THEY'RE VERY CHEAP AND YOU CAN FIND IT EVERYWHERE. DUCKS. GOATS. FEEL HELP ON THE LAWN MOWING PART OF IT. SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS BUT YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, I'M A BRAND NEW FARMER NEVER FOUND IN MY LIFE. I WAS AN OFFICE EXECUTIVE AND TOOK EARLY RETIREMENT. SO THESE ARE VERY AMBITIOUS AND GOALS THAT I HAVE SET. THINGS WOULD CHANGE. BUT I'M QUITE COMMITTED. FEEL THAT BACK JUST A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE YOU WON'T HAVE ANY GRASS LEFT. IMPOSSIBLE IMPOSSIBLE. FEEL THAT BACK TO ABOUT TWO COWS. ALL RIGHT. COUNSELORS DO YOU NEED TO HEAR ANY MORE? I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. UM, JUST BASED ON YOUR DRAWING UP. PUT IT IN CAT, AND I DIDN'T GET THE SAME RESULTS THAT WE'VE GOT HERE ON THIS HAND DRAWING, UM. IT LOOKS TO BE ABOUT 40 FT. OFF THE BACK FENCE LINE ROD. YEARS THE REQUIREMENTS ARE ALL MET. AND I THINK IS THAT RIGHT NOW LOOK AT ALL THE REQUIREMENTS. ALL THE REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN MET. OKAY, THEN THERE'S 20 FT.BETWEEN YOUR CHICKEN COOP IN YOUR PROPOSED BARN. YES, OKAY. AND THE YOU'VE GOT AN RV SHED.
THAT'S ABOUT 560 SQUARE FEET. BARNES ABOUT 2400 SQUARE FEET AND YOUR CHICKEN COOPS ABOUT 225 SQUARE FEET. UM. SO THIS ISN'T A SCALE. OBVIOUSLY NO. IT'S NOT. OKAY? AND THE ONLY OTHER THING WAS WHENEVER I DID, AND GRANT I JUST DID GOOGLE MEASUREMENTS, BUT IN GOOGLE ON THE SOUTH. SOUTH PROPERTY LINE. I GOT 540 LINEAR FEET TWO YEAR 687 687 IS IN THE FRONT ON FOUR OR SEVEN. WHAT'S THE SOUTH SIDE? YES, IT IS FOR 6 87. OKAY? AND ACTUALLY, I PHYSICALLY MEASURED IT SO AND I AND I ALSO HAVE SURVEY DID WITH THE ENGINEERING COMPANY CRACK BRAND NEW SURVEY HAS BEEN DONE FOR THE WHOLE PROPERTY AS WELL WITH ALL PICKS AND THEN. OKAY, BECAUSE THIS SURVEY LOOKS TO BE RECTANGULAR AND YOURS LOOKS TO BE TRAPEZOID. THE OLD YEAH.
WHICH IS I'M JUST CURIOUS. WHICH IS IT BECAUSE IT'S THIS ONE RIGHT HERE IS OUR GOAL IS THE CORRECT ONE. THIS ONE? THIS IS THE CORRECT ONE. YEAH. ONE SHOWS IT. YEAH, THESE ARE CORRECT FROM THE NEW SURVEY THE 5 41 7 18, 6 87 AND THE 7 60 IS FROM THE NEW SURVEY. I THINK
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MAYBE THE CONFUSION COMES IN THE FACT THAT ON THE ACTUAL SURVEY, THERE'S A CURVE IN 47 ON HIS HAND DRAWING AND JUST DRAW A LINE FROM YEAH, I JUST DIDN'T SHOW THAT IS JUST, UH, IT'S JUST A HAND DRAW JUST A SKETCH. LOWER POINT ON THE SOUTH SIDE. GOT YOU? ACTUALLY, THE CURRENT PROPERTY LINE IS 40 FT INSIDE, SO WHOEVER DID IT INITIALLY DIDN'T EVEN REALIZE THAT HE HAD ANOTHER 40 FT SO THAT IT'S 40 FT THAT EVERYBODY USES AND PUTS THEIR SPARE TIRE WHEN THEY'RE CHANGING THEIR TIRES THAT I HAVE TO CLEAN. AND PROBABLY PUT IT INSIDE THE PROPERTY ABOUT 40 FT IN THE FRONT. AND THEN WHEN YOU BUILD YOUR HOUSE, YOU'RE GOING TO MAINTAIN THESE THREE STRUCTURES. CORRECT? I MEAN, YOU'RE GONNA YOU'RE GONNA KEEP THEM RIGHT? YES, ABSOLUTELY. SO THE RV SHED IS GOING TO BE 70 FT. FROM. WHAT THE LEFT. MOST PART OF THE GUESTS WILL. KIND OF FROM THE GAS WELL, BUT THAT'S NOT THE CENTER LINE. I MEAN, YOU'VE GOT YOUR. 112 FT FROM THE NORTH FENCE LINE. TO WHAT THE CENTER LINE OF THE GUESTS WELL. I'VE GOT 162 FT FROM YOUR EASTERN. FENCE LINE TO THE CENTER. THE GAS ALL RIGHT, OKAY. AND. GAS WELL EQUIPMENTS ABOUT 32. FT SQUARE. YEAH. OKAY AND. ARE YOU BUILDING ON THE NORTH SIDE OF 300 FT MARKER YOU'RE BUILDING WITHIN THAT. IT WILL BE OUTSIDE THE ARC, I THINK ON THE NORTH SIDE SO IT WOULD BE. SO IT WOULD BE ON THE SOUTH SIDE, RIGHT? IT WOULD BE 200 FT FROM 47. THE HOUSE OR THE OR THE SHED THE HOUSE? YEAH. HOUSES 200 FT FROM FOUR OR SEVEN. FEED OFF YOUR WESTERN YES, RIGHT. YOU'RE RIGHT. YES. WE'RE ABOUT HERE. YOU GOT IT? YES. AND AS YOUR DRIVER WE PROPOSED TO COME OFF OF THOUGHT OR OFF OF 40747. YOU'RE A RISK TAKER, AREN'T YOU? I JUST DON'T TELL MY WIFE. BUT I'VE SPOKEN WITH THIS, UH. IT'S THE STATE'S RIGHT. THE FOUR OR SEVEN GUYS. SO THEY HAVE GIVEN TENTATIVE. APPROVAL TO GO FROM 47. AND THAT'S WHY I THINK I HAD APPLIED FOR FOUR OR SEVEN ADDRESS AND I'VE BEEN GIVEN A FOUR OR SEVEN STREET ADDRESS. ONLY USE THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY TO FLAT ROAD TO ACCESS THE BARN UNTIL THE HOMES BUILT.YES RIGHT NOW THERE IS AN ACCESS AND WALK THROUGH. BECAUSE THE STATE WANT THE FULL ENGINEERING DRAWING, WHICH WOULD COME WITH THE HOUSE TO GIVE APPROVAL. SO I HAVE NO ENTRANCE. I DO HAVE AN ENTRANCE, BUT ANOTHER. ROAD ENTRANCE ON 47. WHAT IS THE GATE SOFT ENTRANCE? ALRIGHT ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU NEED TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING. LET'S GET THAT HEARD. IF THERE'S ANYONE HERE TONIGHT, WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7 16. PM ANYONE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THE TOPIC OF THIS CHANGE THIS EVENING. ALL RIGHT. IT'S STILL 76 FT. 16 P. M. WOULD CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND GO BACK TO COUNCIL DISCUSSION. COUNCILLORS WHAT YOU WANT TO DO WITH THIS? SAID ONE QUICK QUESTION. SORRY UM, BUT IT S JUST A MINUTE AGO. BUT NICE AND ARE THERE ANY REQUIREMENTS AS TO HOW LONG.
THIS CAN REMAIN THE HOUSE CAN REMAIN UNBUILT. UH NOT CURRENTLY. UNLESS THAT YOU JUST CHOOSE TO ADD A CONDITION. ON THAT. THROUGH THIS AND THE, UH. YES, THIS IS JUST A PROVING IT TO BE BUILT. BEFORE A HOUSE, BUT IT DOESN'T REQUIRE THE HOUSE TO BE BUILT ANY TIME, BUT.
BECAUSE THIS IS AN S U P. YOU CAN ADD ANY CONDITIONS THAT YOU FEEL APPROPRIATE. SO THAT COULD BE ONE P AND Z DID DISCUSS THAT BRIEFLY, BUT CHOSE NOT TO REQUIRE THAT BECAUSE THEY DID HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT THAT HE DID HAVE PLANS TO DO IT RELATIVELY SOON, AND IT WOULD BE. PRETTY HARD TO FORCE SOMEBODY TO BUILD A HOME. OUR COUNSELORS. WE'RE GOING TO NEED A MOTION TO ACT ON WAY OR ANOTHER ON THIS ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR I'LL ENTERTAIN
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YOUR MOTIONS. MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. MOTION TO APPROVE. IS THERE A SECOND? RIGHT? ALRIGHT, TIED HERE WHO HE WANTS IT. PLACE TO PLACE TO HAS THE SECOND. MOTION AND SECOND HAVING BEEN HEARD ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION. ALL RIGHT. LET'S VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE HIGH AND HE OPPOSED. VERY GOOD, SIR. ONE MORE STEP. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR COMING. TALK TO US. ALL RIGHT NOW WE CAN TALK TO YOU WHEN WE NEED THE GRASS CUT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE TONIGHT. I KNOW THIS HAS TAKEN A LITTLE TIME TO GET THROUGH THESE. WE HAVE A BIG AGENDA, BUT ITEM K, SO WE HAVE ANOTHER ANOTHER APPLICANT HERE THIS EVENING,[5.K. Approval of an Ordinance Zoning change from RR - Rural Residential (min. 5 acres lots) /CRO - Conservation Residential Overlay to RE-PD-Rural Estate Planned Development (min. 2 acre lots) for an approximately 14.2855-acre tract of land situated in the J.E. Anderson Survey, Abstract No. 22, generally located on the northeast corner of Florance Road and Strader Road/ Robson Ranch Road. Kenneth Frisby is the owner/applicant. Case U PD-21-003.]
AND WE DO HAVE SOMETHING TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT, ALTHOUGH HE CAN'T BE HERE THIS EVENING. JUST A SECOND BEFORE WE GET STARTED. SO THIS IS ITEM K. THIS IS A REQUEST FOR HIS OWNING CHANGE FROM RURAL RESIDENTIAL MINIMUM FIVE ACRE LOTS TO A CONSERVATION RESIDENTIAL OVERLAY TO RESIDENTIAL ESTATE PLAN DEVELOPMENT WITH A MINIMUM TWO ACRE LOTS. ON THE CORNER OF FLORENCE ROAD AND STRAIGHTER ROAD, STRAIGHTER SIZED ROBES AND RANCH. THIS IS MR FRISBY IS THE APPLICANT WHO LIVES AT THAT PROPERTY AND HE'S SUBDIVIDING OR HE'S REQUESTING THE SUBDIVIDE THIS PROPERTY. MISTER ED. AND CAN YOU GIVE US ANY PERTINENT FURTHER DETAILS? OKAY. CURRENTLY THIS IS OWN REAL RESIDENTIAL, WHICH REQUIRES A MINIMUM LOT SIZE OF FIVE ACRES. SO THE MOST LOTS. THIS 14 JUST OVER 14 ACRE LOT COULD BE DIVIDED INTO IS TO IS PROPOSING THAT DIVIDED INTO FOUR LOT, SO IT'S TWO LOTS ARE THREE LOTS ON THE WEST SIDE. WITH A MINIMUM OF TWO ACRES AND THEN THE REMAINDER EXCEEDING THE FIVE ACRES MEETING THE CURRENT RURAL RESIDENTIAL ZONING AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN. UM HE ALSO SUBMITTED, UM. DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT THAT MATCH UP WITH WHAT IS INCLUDED IN THE ZONING FOR STARTUPS RANCH. AND REALLY, THE CONCEPT PLAN IS MODELED AFTER THAT, AS WELL. STARDUST RANCH HAD A MINIMUM OF. ONE ACRE LOT SIZE. UH BUT REQUIRED TWO ACRES ON THE WESTERN BOUNDARY ALONG FLORENCE AND THAT'S WHERE YOU GOT THE IDEA FOR THE TWO ACRE LOTS. UH, ON THE WESTERN BOUNDARY HERE JUST SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU SEE FURTHER NORTH ON FLORENCE. UM. SO THE OVERALL AVERAGE DENSITY THAT THIS PLAN WOULD WOULD CREATE AS ONE HOME FOR 3.57 ACRES. UM. PUBLIC HEARING IS REQUIRED BEFORE YOU TAKE ACTION AND NOTICES WERE SENT TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FT. THE APPLICANT ALSO DID SOME SOME HOMEWORK BEFOREHAND AND CONTACTED SEVERAL OF THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS AND SUBMITTED EVEN WITH THE APPLICATION.SEVERAL LETTERS OF SUPPORT. UM AND, UH. ALSO AT THE PUBLIC HEARING, HELD BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RESIDENTS SPOKE IN FAVOR OF THE. ZONING CHANGE AT THAT MEETING, UM, THE PNC RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE ZONING CHANGE HAS SUBMITTED. CAN YOU CLARIFY FOR ME ON THE HIKE AND BIKE TRAILS? UM, IT PROVIDES FOR IN A WESTERN BOUNDARY ALONG FLORENCE ROAD ON THE EAST SIDE OF FLORENCE WROTE ALL ALONG THESE THE SIX ACRES AND THEN THE ALONG STRAIGHTER AT THE BOTTOM. THAT THE RESPONSIBILITY OF MR FRISBY TO BUILD AS HE SUB DIVIDES OR IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF EACH INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNER TO BILL BE AS AS THE HOMES ARE BUILT, WOULD BE VERY SIMILAR TO HOW IT'S BEEN DONE IN, UM AND START US RANCH. FOR THE LOTS ON FLORENCE. UH AS AS THEY BUILD, THEY BUILD THEIR SECTION OF THE TRAIL. EXTRA SENSE. THIS ISN'T A DEVELOPMENT PER SE, EACH PROPERTY OWNER IS GONNA HAVE TO BUILD THEM AS PART OF THEIR BUILD PACKAGE. YES, YES. OKAY? LIKE EXTRA WIDE SIDEWALK MHM.
ARE THESE CONNECTED AT THE NORTH OR DO WE HAVE ANOTHER PROPERTY? WE HAVE A GAP IN THE SIDEWALK RUNNING. THERE WILL BE A GAP UNTIL A COUPLE OF PROPERTIES DEVELOPING BETWEEN AND THERE'S A GAP ON THE SOUTH SIDE ON THE FRONTAGE OF MR FRISBEES PROPERTY, CORRECT YES.
YEAH. ALL RIGHT, COUNSELORS. YOU HAVE FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR REDDEN. WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING TO HAVE AND THEN WE HAVE. SOMETHING THEN DO WE ALSO HAVE WE HAVE THE APPLICANT REPRESENTED REPRESENTED FROM THE APPLICANT TYPICALLY WILL OKAY, ALRIGHT HEARING AS WELL.
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GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCILMAN. MY NAME'S KEVIN ELDREDGE. I'M A CLOSE FRIEND OF MR FRISBY. MM. UNFORTUNATELY HE HAD A PRIOR ENGAGEMENT SCHOOL ON VACATION. HE HAD SCHEDULED IT AROUND THE ORIGINAL DATA IF YOUR CITY COUNCIL MEETING WHICH I BELIEVE GOT CHANGED. WE DREW STRAWS. HE GOT TO GO ON VACATION. I CAME HERE. SO, UH, BUT HE DID SEND A RECORDING.YES. HE DID SEND A RECORDING, WHICH I BELIEVE HAS BEEN PRE APPROVED. JUST UH TWO OR THREE MINUTES OF IT, I THINK IS APPLICABLE. THAT'S OKAY. AND I'LL JUST HIT PLAY AND SEE HOW IT GOES. THANK YOU. SEE COUNCIL MEMBERS. STAFF FOR ALLOWING ME TO PRESENT. REQUEST VIA RECORDING AS TWO AM ON VACATION WITH MY WIFE AND UNABLE TO ATTEND DUE TO THE CANCELLATION OF JULY 8TH SAFETY COUNCIL MEETING AND ARE SCHEDULED VACATION AROUND THE MEETINGS TO APOLOGIZE AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR LENIENCE. UH MY NAME'S KEN FRISBEE ALIVE AT 67 75 FLORENCE ROAD. AND JUSTIN. I HAVE LIVED HERE FOR ABOUT 16 YEARS NOW. UM AND I HAVE BEEN THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENTS OF THE PROPERTIES AROUND US AND DEALT WITH THAT WITH THE CITY AND WITH DENTON COUNTY, UH, WITH FLORENCE ROAD EXPANSION WITH THROWS AND RANGE EXPANSION, AND I'M HERE TODAY.
TO REQUEST, UH, REZONING AND RELOCATING THE FUTURE ROAD. FLORENCE ROAD. UH, HAVE YOU.
RECEIVED UNANIMOUSLY APPROVAL FROM THE P A FEW WEEKS AGO TO SUBDIVIDE MY SIX ACRES. INTO TWO INCHES. 32 ACRE TRACTS. UM ALSO, I HAVE SEVERAL LETTERS FROM THE NEIGHBORS WHO PUT UP TO MY PROPERTY. DAVID FOUGHT ERIC COOK. JOSH AKERS, BRAD JACKSON, UH, BRANDON T V. AND UH, ALSO SUPPORT FROM GARY AND STACY. UH BUTCHERS, OUR NEIGHBORS TO THE EAST. I'M PROPOSING TO SUPERVISE THE SIX ACRES ON THE WEST SIDE OF MY PROPERTY. UH, EVERY. LOT WOULD BASICALLY THE HOME WOULD FACE FLORENCE ROAD AND MIMIC WHAT YOU'VE ALLOWED WAS STORED. US RANCH GOING ALL THE WAY DOWN FLORENCE ROAD. MEANING THAT ALL THE DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE ON THE EAST SIDE OF FORD'S ROAD AND IT WILL JUST CONTINUE. DOWN TO THE INTERSECTION OF FLORENCE AND STRAIGHTER MEN BECAME WASH ALL OF LOUD NORTH AND DOWN THE STREET. NOW I REALIZE THERE ARE PROS AND CONS AND GOOD AND BAD ON BOTH SIDES FOR MYSELF IN THE CITY. UM. WITH THIS ROAD THAT YOU ALL ARE PROPOSING IN THE NEXT 20 YEARS. NOW I HAVE YOUR DESIGN AND THEN I HAVE A. I BELIEVE THAT'S PROBABLY THE STOPPING POINT AT THIS POINT. AS FAR AS THE. UH DEVELOPMENT AS ITS PROPOSED OBVIOUSLY ON YOUR THOROUGHFARE PLAN THAT YOU WERE SHOWING TONIGHT IT SHOWS FLORENCE ROAD GOING THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THESE. THREE TRACKS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED HERE.
AND. SO I BELIEVE THAT'S THE BIG CONCERN AS FAR AS BEING ABLE TO BE CONSISTENT, AND WITH THE TRAFFIC FLOW IN THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN AS IT'S PROPOSED. CAN KEEP HIT AND PLAY.
IF YOU WANT ME TO DO THAT, OR IF YOU WANT TO ASK QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT. ANSWERS YOU WANT TO TALK TO HIM AT THIS POINT? SURE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I'M ALL RIGHT WITH THAT THAT I'VE CREATED, AND IT'S ESSENTIALLY FLIPPING THE ROAD TO THE WEST. UH SO THAT IT DOES NOT GO RIGHT THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF MY PROPERTY. PROBLEM BEING IF IT GOES RIGHT THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF PROPERTY. THERE ARE MANY EFFECTS IN THIS AND, UH, KIND OF THE CONS. IF YOU WILL, IS THAT THE ROAD WILL BE VERY CLOSE TO MY HOUSE. UM IT WOULD DECREASE THE VALUE OF MY HOME
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IN MY HOUSE BECAUSE THE ROAD WOULD BE SO CLOSE TO MY HOUSE. IF YOU PUT THE ROAD THROUGH MY PASTURE YOU WAS SO DIVIDE MY BLAND AND THERE WOULD BE 1.25 ACRES OF UNUSABLE LAND IN A VERY ODD SHAPE. ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE ROAD, WHICH ALSO WOULD INCUMBENT UH THE SETBACKS OF THE WELL IN THE RESTRICTIONS FOR THE GAS WILL THAT WE CANNOT HAVE ANY DEVELOPMENT WITHIN A 300 FT. RADIUS OF THE GAS WILL. WHICH WOULD INCUMBENT THAT 1.25 ACRES IN AND I WOULD EVEN HAVE LESS THAN THAT TO DO SOMETHING WITH SO I BASICALLY USED THE. LOSE THE USE OF THAT LAND, ALONG WITH THE VALUE OF THAT LAND. THEN IT WOULD PUT 1.95 ACRES ON THE EAST SIDE OF FLORENCE ROAD IF WE USE THE ROAD, UH. IN THE LOCATION THAT YOU'RE REQUESTING, WHICH ALSO MAKES A VERY STRANGE CONFIGURATION OF THE LOT, AND IN THAT 1.95 ACRES THERE IS A.TRAINING JEEZ, MISS, WHICH WITHIN LESS THAN THE AREA THAT I COULD DEVELOP DUE TO THE DRAINAGE. HE'S BEEN THERE WOULD BE A HUGE FINANCIAL LOSS FOR ME RIGHT NOW. HAVE A CONTRACT ON TWO ACRES AND TO BUILD A HOME. UH FOR $100,000 AND ACRES. FROM UH FEMI AND MARY DOMINIC. I HAVE THE EMAIL WITH THE PROPOSAL AND THE, UH OH, EXCUSE ME, THE, UH, THE CONTRACT FOR PURCHASING THAT LAND I HAVE SO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL BUYER THAT WANTS TO MORE ACRES. BUT I TOLD HIM THAT I WAS GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS THAT DIDN'T WANT TO MAKE ANY DEALS WITH THEM UNTIL WE GOT THIS WORKED OUT, SO THERE'S ESSENTIALLY $600,000 OF CASH THAT I WOULD LOSE IF YOU'LL PUT THAT RODE THROUGH MY PROPERTY. NOT TO MENTION THE ADDITIONAL COSTS THAT I WOULD LOSE INCOME FOR MY BUSINESS BECAUSE I AM A BUILDER OF APPROXIMATELY $450,000 TO BUILD THREE HOMES, WHICH ULTIMATELY THE NET IS ONE MILLION DOLLARS MILLION. YOU KNOW, $50,000. BY HAVING THE ROAD THROUGH THE WEST PART OF MY PROPERTY, IT KIND OF DISRUPTS THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN THAT YOU ALL HAVE ESTABLISHED, UM. NOT ALLOWING HOUSES ALL THE WAY DOWN THE EAST OUT OF FLORENCE RULED BECAUSE THE ROAD WOULD BE ESSENTIALLY IN THE MIDDLE OF MY PASTURE. UM. AND THEN I KNOW THERE'S SOME THINGS WITH THE CITY INVOLVED THAT ARE PROS AND CONS WITH THE CITY. UM. I REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY PROS FOR THE ROAD PAN ON MY LAND. IT'S NOT GOOD AT ALL. SO, WITH THE CITY UM MM. IF THE TOWN ELECTS TO SHIFT THE ROAD. TO THE WEST.
THEN THE TOWN DOESN'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH A PAINSTAKING ORDEAL OF FINANCIALLY COMPENSATE TO ME FOR MY LAND IS PAID FOR BY SOMEONE ELSE. IN THE TOWN. UH, WILL. HAVE THE TAX IS FOR LIFE GENERATED BY THE PROPERTY IN THE HOMES BUILT ON THE PROPERTY, SO Y'ALL ARE GONNA LOSE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS. BY NOT HAVING THE THREE HOMES THERE AND PROPERTY TAXES OVER THE LIFE OF THE TOWN. UM. YEAH. THE TOWN WOULD HAVE TO REDESIGN THE ROAD. BUT THE TOWN WOULD NOT HAVE TO PURCHASE MY LAND. UH, IF YOU MOVE THE ROAD TO THE WEST AND ACTUALLY STRAIGHTEN IT OUT A LITTLE BIT, AND YOU DON'T HAVE AN S CURB. LIKE WE HAVE ON RUSSIAN RANCH ROAD. AND THE DANGER OF CARS RUNNING OFF THE ROAD, AS YOU ALL KNOW, NOW THEY DO THAT THEY RUN OFF THE ROAD HIT THE MAILBOXES. THEY END UP IN PEOPLE'S HOUSES WERE GETTING CALLS REPEATEDLY ABOUT THE SPEEDS. AND THIS IS TURNED.
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT IT'S GOING TO BE A STRAIGHTER ROAD. UM THE TOWN WOULD HAVE TO AMEND THE FUTURE THIRD PLAYER AND THERE WOULD BE MONEY ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, BUT I THINK THE LOSS OF THE TAX REVENUE. FOR THE THREE LARGE HOMES WOULD SUPERSEDE THAT AND YOU'RE GOING
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TO BE BETTER OFF. IF YOU HAVE THE HOMES THERE RATHER THAN A ROAD THROUGH THE MINIMUM PASTURE. UM AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE TO. GO THROUGH A LONG, DRAWN OUT PROCESS WITH ATTORNEYS AND WASTE A BUNCH OF MONEY, NOT TO MENTION. IF THE TOWN HAS TO GO, UH, DEALING WITH THIS WITH ATTORNEYS, PEOPLE. NORTH LAKE ARE GOING TO BE PUT IN THE BILL BECAUSE THEY PAY THE TAXES TO PAY Y'ALL AND YOU'RE GOING TO USE IT FOR ATTORNEY FEES AND KNOW SOMETHING THAT COULD BE USEFUL FOR THE PEOPLE. UH UM. SO THAT'S WHAT I'M HERE TO PROPOSE.TODAY I'VE GIVEN KEVIN A COPY OF WHAT I'M PROPOSING TO SHIFT THE ROAD TO THE WEST. UM IT ACTUALLY IS. ALL OF DR SESSIONS PROPERLY. MAYBE BECAUSE A LITTLE BIT OF MY PROPERTY AND I UNDERSTAND HE PROBABLY DOESN'T WANT THE ROAD ON HIS PROPERTY EITHER, BUT HE HAS 65 ACRES AND I HAVE. JUST LESS THAN 15. BECAUSE I'VE ALREADY GIVEN SERVE UP TO DENTON COUNTY FOR ROSE AND RANCH. SO WHEN YOU TAKE SIX ACRES OR THREE ACRES. FROM 15 6 ACRES HAS ALMOST HALF WHEN YOU TAKE THREE ACRES FROM HIM TO DO THE ROAD OUT OF 65. HE'S PROBABLY NOT GOING TO MISS IT NOT TO MENTION IS NOT ON THE EASTERN HILL. FULL ROCKS AND CACTUS AND SCRUB TREES. IT ALSO, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT THIS IF YOU WILL GO FROM THE STOP SIGN AS IT SITS ON FLORENCE ROAD AND STRAIGHTER AND GOES SOUTH ABOUT 802,000 FT AND START THE NEW ROAD THAT THAT POINT GOING NORTH TO THE INTERSECTION OF FLORENCE AND STRAIGHTER. IT ACTUALLY PUTS MORE OF DR SESSIONS LAND ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE ROAD AND LARGE IN OF SECTION THAT HE ACTUALLY RETAINS THE LITTLE TRIANGLE THAT HE LOST WHEN YOU ORIGINALLY DID THE FLORENCE ROAD EXPANSION SEVERAL YEARS AGO, AND THERE'S A LITTLE TRIANGLE THAT HE OWNS THAT HE COULD DO NOTHING WITH ITS LAWS. TAKE CARE. THERE'S NO REVENUE THERE. YOU CAN'T USE IT. HE CAN FACILITY CAN BUILD ON IT. HE CAN'T. DO ANYTHING WITH IT BY SHIFTING THE ROAD TO THE WEST. HE WOULD ACTUALLY. REGAIN THE USE OF THAT PROPERTY, AND IT WOULD CREATE A GOOD SIZED LOCKED TO HAVE A HOME BUILT ON OR SOMETHING HE COULD, IT COULD BE USED OR SOLD OR ARE RECOUP HIS MONEY THAT HE LOST. THEM BY GIVING UP THAT LITTLE SECTION OF LAND. SO I REALIZED THIS IS VERY WEIRD. REALIZED OF NOT ARTICULATED MYSELF GREAT. ON THIS FORCE RECORDING. I'M DOING THE BEST THAT I CAN, BUT THIS IS WHAT I'M REQUESTING HAD THE SUPPORT OF MY NEIGHBORS. UM AND I HAVE A UNANIMOUS SMITH UNANIMOUSLY THE SUPPORT OF THE P L. Z COMMISSION AND I'M ASKING YOU ALL TO, UM, LOOK AT THIS AND ALSO APPROVE THIS AND, UH, I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME DO THIS. THIS WAY. I KNOW IT'S VERY STRANGE. GOING TO BE ON THE PHONE WITH KEVIN. IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, KEVIN KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING ON HERE. UH SO YOU'LL LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. ALL RIGHT, SO THAT WAS A LITTLE ABNORMAL. UM, BUT IT IS ONE OF OUR RESIDENTS AND I UNDERSTAND. WE CAN'T HAVE CANCELLED THE FIRST MEETING. YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THE EXHIBIT OF WHAT HE'S PROPOSING. PROPOSING FOR WHICH PROPERTY AS FAR AS THE ROAD FOR THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN. AND I NEED TO MAKE A CLARIFICATION HERE. SO WE ARE NOT NOTICED TO TALK ABOUT. OTHER PROPERTIES HERE. WE'VE GOT A PROPOSAL IN FRONT OF US FOR THIS PROPERTY.
UM I DON'T KNOW HOW APPROPRIATE IT IS FOR US TO EXPAND THE CONVERSATION TO OTHER PROPERTIES. UM. THERE IS HISTORY THAT WAS NOTED, WHICH IS CORRECT. THERE HAS BEEN PROPERTY TAKEN FROM THE SOUTHERN PROPERTY OWNER, WHICH IS DOCTOR SESSIONS. THIS. SO YOU KNOW THERE WAS THERE IS DISCUSSION ABOUT A MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN THAT MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLANE DOES CUT THIS PROPERTY AND THAT DOES OBVIOUSLY IMPACT THE USABILITY OF THE SALE OF THESE THREE TRACKS. IT IS. THAT IS WHAT A MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN IS FOR IS TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THIS IS WHAT NEEDS TO BE BUILT WHEN YOU SUBDIVIDE. THE OPTIONS BEFORE THE COUNCIL TONIGHT ARE TO APPROVE, AS IS DO NOTHING. IN WHICH CASE THE PROPERTY STAYS.
THERE IS NO ROAD CUT THROUGH IT. AND THEN THIRD AT A FUTURE DATE. DISCUSS THE MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN AS FAR AS ACTUALLY DOING WHAT IT SAYS. SO THOSE ARE WE'VE GOT SOME
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SEPARATE DISCUSSIONS HERE, AND WE NEED TO STAY FOCUSED ON THIS PARTICULAR ONE. BUT OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN'T SEPARATE IT FROM THE CONTEXT. SO I UNDERSTAND THAT. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE'S WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OTHER PEOPLE HERE THAT WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS TONIGHT. SO I'D LIKE TO GET THEIR COMMENTS ON THE RECORD, IF THAT'S OKAY BEFORE WE GET INTO A LITTLE BIT, BUT IF YOU JUST STAND BY, PLEASE, BECAUSE I KNOW THE COUNCIL IS GOING TO WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS. BUT IT'S OKAY. WE GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT. GET A FEW MORE ON THE RECORD HERE. ALL RIGHT. I'VE GOT TO SPEAK ON THIS. WE'VE GOT AUSTIN FRISBEE. SPEAK TONIGHT. WORD. SAYING BECAUSE. SO LIVE 15. YEAH. IF YOU WERE JUST GOING TO SAY THIS IS WHO I AM, AND I'M HERE. THAT'S FINE, BUT I NEED YOU ON THE RECORD. HE'S WORKED HIS WHOLE LIFE FOR 15 YEARS. THIS IS HIS RETIREMENT.ESSENTIALLY, UM. PUTTING THIS ROAD THROUGH AND TAKING THIS AWAY REALLY IS GOING TO IMPACT HIS LIFE. NOT JUST IT'S NOT JUST A ROAD ANYMORE. UM, IT'S GONNA IMPACT HIS LIFE AND HIS RETIREMENT AND HIS PLANS FOR US KIDS AND HIS FUTURE. UM SO UNDERSTEER FOR SUPPORT, AND I UNDERSTAND. KIND OF THE WHOLE ISSUE AND WHY HE'S DOING WHAT HE'S DOING. PARTIAL STATUS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR. APPRECIATE THAT WAS AUSTIN FOR HIS BE, BY THE WAY. KEVIN ELDREDGE. OH, SORRY. GOT YOU. LET'S SEE, KEVIN. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT, THE NOTES. WE DON'T KNOW THEIR KEVIN HERE TONIGHT. OKAY? ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANY OTHERS? I WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS TOPIC TONIGHT? ALL RIGHT. 7:35:09 P.M. I'M SORRY. YES. CAN I ASK YOU COME BACK UP.
THERE'S STILL BIG CORN PEOPLE TALK. MY NAME IS DENNIS PRICE IT AGAIN. I TALKED WITH KEN ABOUT THIS. AND HE'S DONE ALL HE CAN TO MAKE IT FIT. THE SCENARIO OF THE OTHER SURROUNDING AREAS. THERE AGAIN. I'M A ROAD NUT, AND I HATE THAT. INTERSECTION THERE WHEN IT WAS PUT IN ITS BLUNT T. NOT WIDE ENOUGH TO TURN TRAILERS OR ANYTHING. WE'VE GOT TRAFFIC DOWN THAT ROAD. YOU WOULDN'T BELIEVE. AND THEN SHE LIVED THERE. YOU WON'T SEE IT. I UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO FIGURE OUT A ROAD THROUGH THERE. RIGHT? AS I KNOW, DR SESSIONS.
I KNOW HIM AND FRISBEE, BOTH IS. WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL. HIS IDEA OF THAT ROAD IS BETTER.
SOUNDS TO ME LIKE AND I THINK IN MY OPINION, IT WOULD BE BETTER FOR EVERYBODY INCLUDED.
IF YOU'RE GRANTED IN THE THREE TWO ECKERD LOTS. SEEN TONIGHT. AS MR KHAN. YOU GIVE HIM A.
PERMIT OR PERMISSION TO BUILD A BORN IN A HOUSE IS COMING. I TOOK CARE OF THAT PROPERTY FOR YEARS WHERE HIS HOUSE IS GOING TO BE IN A FLOODPLAIN. HE'S GOING TO BUILD IT UP. THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT THAT NOBODY ASKED. BUT I KNOW PEOPLE ON FARM ROAD THAT WANTED TO BUILD HOUSES THAT HAD THE RULE. WE ADAPT FIVE ACRES. YOU COULDN'T BUILD YOUR BARN BEFORE YOU BUILD YOUR HOUSE. STATING THAT I GET PERMISSION TO BE DONE. NO KID WILL DO IT RIGHT. IF YOU DROVE BY AND I'M NOT CUT, MR CONDOM. BUT. THEY DROVE BY AND LOOK AT WHAT HE'S GOT AFTER RIGHT NOW. SO THAT'S THE KIND OF THING I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT FOR YOU MAKE A CHANGE YOUR MIND ABOUT CUTTING KENT OUT. KEN WILL DO IT RIGHT. AND I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE OTHER. BUT IT'S A PR. DON'T FIGURE THAT OUT. I VOTE THAT YOU PASSED. LET HIM HAVE THEM.
THE THREE ACRES 23 ECKERD LINES. LIKE 32, ACRE LOTS FOR 23 ACRES TO 100 LARGE, VERY LARGE TO LOCAL. GOOD LUCK. OKAY ALRIGHT. I THOUGHT YOU WERE NEGOTIATING THERE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M DOING IS DOING PAPER I WANT. I APPRECIATE YOU COMING. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. AM I MISSING? ANYBODY ELSE SOUNDED LIKE PLEASE. I'M STACY HOLLAND. I LIVE AT 38 43 RUBS AND RANCH.
UM YOU GUYS ARE ALL VERY TALL. UM AND I AM IN SUPPORT OF MR FRISBEES PLAN. AESTHETICALLY I THINK IT FOLLOWS THAT WHAT WE'VE ALREADY GOT GOING ON WITH STARTUPS RANCH. I DO NOT AGREE WITH YOU GUYS ON THE FLORENCE ROAD. THAT INTERSECTION IS BAD. 18 WHEELERS PULL OFF OVER THERE ALL THE TIME. TRAILERS GO OFF THE SIDE. IT'S IT NEEDS TO BE STRAIGHTENED THE OTHER DIRECTION NOT GOING THROUGH MR FRISBEES PROPERTY. IN MY OPINION, I'M NOT. THE DESIGNER, NOT AN ENGINEER OF ANYWHERE IN ANY WAY, BUT, UM. THE WAY IT'S DESIGNED RIGHT NOW JUST ISN'T GOING TO BE ECONOMICAL WHEN YOU EXPAND, ARE YOU. MAKE THAT ROBSON RANCH THROUGH STRAIGHTER, A FOUR LANE HIGHWAY. UM SO I'M IN A. SUPPORT, AS IS MY HUSBAND AND SEVERAL OF OUR NEIGHBORS THAT THE CURRENT ROADMAP ISN'T GOING TO WORK. WE LIVE THERE. I'VE
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HAD MY MAILBOX RUN OVER. WE'VE. COMPLAINTS ALL THE TIME ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON ON ROPES AND RANCH WITH THE TRAFFIC. YOU. CONTINUE TO KEEP THAT AS A STOP SIGN. THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME FATALITIES THAT HAPPENED THERE. GOING STRAIGHT THROUGH HIS PROPERTY. I DON'T THINK YOU'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER S CURB, SO I LIVE ON. THAT S CURVE. IT IS DANGEROUS, AND I JUST ASKED THAT WE DON'T ADD ANOTHER ONE AT THAT INTERSECTION. LET HIM. FINISH OUT HIS RETIREMENT AND AESTHETICALLY MAKE OUR CITY LOOK GOOD. OUR TOWN, OKAY? RIGHT? YES, SIR. AGAIN MY NAME IS JOSH ACRES. THAT WAS ONE OF THE ONES THAT WAS LISTED FRIEND CAN FRISBEE AND WE'RE NEIGHBORS WERE AT 64 1 FLORENCE ROAD. SO TWO LOTS TO THE NORTH OF KEN FRISBEES LOT THERE, BUT TOTALLY IN, UH. SUPPORT OF HIM BEING HERE AND GETTING THE 32 ACRE LOTS. MAKE SURE I SAY THAT RIGHT? AND HONESTLY, JUST FROM BEING THAT WE'VE LIVED THERE FOR 18 MONTHS, AND WHAT'S BEEN MORE OF AN ISSUE THEM THAT I UNDERSTAND THAT STOP SONG, LITTLE LIKE T IS NOT NOT GREAT, BUT THE. CONSTANT TANKERS THAT ARE DIGGING A NEW GRAND CANYON DOWN FLORENCE ROAD SEEMS TO BE A BIT MORE OF A PROBLEM THAN THE THAN THE STOP SIGN THERE, BUT JUST TOTALLY IN SUPPORT OF KIN FOR AS WE JUST WANTED TO GET THAT ON THE RECORD. THANK YOU, SIR. ANYONE ELSE TONIGHT? ALRIGHT 7 44 PM SO WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE FULL LIST FOR TAKE THE CONCESSION. DO YOU WANT TO PULL IT RIGHT NOW? OR DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT? AND THEN PULL IT ACTUALLY HAVE A QUESTION OF WOULD MAKE UNDER WHAT. ASK HIS QUESTION, AND THEN WE'LL GO BACK LATER. OKAY BUT MY QUESTION IS AND STAFF MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW YOU MIGHT HAVE TO LOOK THIS UP. WE KNOW WHEN THIS CURVATURE. FIXED FLORENCE ROAD WAS ADDED TO THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN. IT'S AT LEAST 2000 AND TWO IT MIGHT BE 1997. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE INHERITED. IT'S. IT'S KIND OF TYPICAL WHAT YOU DO WITH THESE. SOMETIMES THESE ROADS. TAKE THE STAIR STEP YOU HAD MENTIONED AN EARLIER OLD JUSTIN AND EVELIN AND, UH, SO THIS WAS. THE BOTTOM HALF WAS DONE BY THE COUNTY. PROBABLY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT. THAT'S FINE. I JUST WANT TO GET I JUST WANTED TO GET A CALENDAR. RUFF, RUFF FLUCTUATION AND WHEN DID MR FRISBY MOVED HERE? 16 YEARS BE APPROXIMATELY 2000. FIVE. I JUST I JUST WANT TO SEE WHAT WHAT DID THE MAPS AND WHAT DID THE TIMEFRAME LOOK LIKE AT THE TIME? MR FRISBEES PURCHASE THAT THAT'S ALL. I WAS CURIOUS, BUT AT THE TIME OF MR FRISBEES PURPOSE THAT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN THIS MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN, NOT A RIGHT OF WAY THROUGH THE SIX ACRES ON HIS SIDE, RIGHT? THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE DIFFERENCE IF IT WAS A RIGHT OF WAY HE WOULD HAVE HAD THE RIGHT OF WAY ON HIS PLOT. WHICH IT WASN'T BECAUSE IT'S NOT A RIGHT OF WAY. IT'S JUST ON THE MASTER THIRD FAN PLAN, RIGHT? RIGHT. SO HE'S TRYING TO LOOKING AFTER HOW EASY FOR HIM, WOULD IT BE TO FIND THAT BECAUSE I WOULD BE WILLING TO BET GOOD MONEY. 90% OF OUR POPULATION HAS NEVER LOOKED AT THEIR MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? LIKE, YEAH, I UNDERSTAND. BUT YOU KNOW, PEOPLE LOOK AT COMPREHENSIVE PLANS POTENTIALLY BEFORE THEY BUY A PROPERTY LOOK AT POTENTIALLY THOROUGHFARE PLANS.I KNOW I LOOKED AT COMPLIMENT BEFORE I BOUGHT. THAT'S JUST ME. UM SO I JUST WANTED TO GET FACTUAL STATEMENT, NOT OPINIONS. JUST WHEN, WHEN AND WHERE THINGS WERE SO COUNCIL CAN TALK ABOUT IT. COUPLE OF FACTS. UM, IF I DON'T DON'T MIND ME ASKING. PROBABLY NATHAN.
UM FIRST LET ME MAKE A STATEMENT. I'VE KNOWN CANCERS BE FOR ALL OF THOSE YEARS THAT HE'S LIVED HERE. IT WAS RIGHT UP THE ROAD FROM ME, AND HE DOES BUILD BEAUTIFUL HOMES. UM.
AND I BELIEVE THAT HE WILL DO WHAT HE SAYS HE'S GOING TO DO. MY QUESTION IS HOW MUCH ROT AWAY HAS ALREADY BEEN TAKEN FOR THE NORTH PART OF FLORENCE ROAD NORTH OF STRAIGHTER. NONE AT THIS POINT. NO RIGHT AWAY HAVE BEEN TAKEN NONE FROM FRISBEE. I'M TALKING. WE'RE IN, BUT BACK DOWN. FOR ANY OF THE PROPERTIES HAVE BEEN PLANTED. WHERE. WE'VE GOT 60 FT FROM THE CENTER LINE FOR AN ULTIMATE RIGHT AWAY OF 100 FOR THE STARDUST DEVELOPMENT ON THE EAST SIDE OF FLORENCE ABOVE THIS ABOVE THIS AREA. RIGHT, SO THEY'LL THEY'LL GIVE BROUGHT A WAY OF 60 FT.
THEY HAVE. YEAH. OKAY, WHICH IS WHY THE SIDEWALKS ARE BACKED UP. OKAY, SO NUNS BEEN GIVEN HERE, CORRECT. YEAH OKAY. AND ANY ON THE WEST SIDE, OKAY? WE HAVE HALF ENGAGED IN THE LOOKING AT THE DESIGN AND. THAT'S PART OF THEIR CONTRACT TO ACQUIRE THOSE THAT RIGHT AWAY. THIS BE
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SUBJECT TO A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BECAUSE HE IS A DEVELOPER OR ACTING AS A DEVELOPER. RIGHT? COULD BE RIGHT NOW. WE'RE JUST AT THE ZONING PHASE OF THIS, BUT I WOULDN'T LIKE THAT ONE WITHOUT THE OTHER. THAT'S. AS YOU CHANGE THE ZONING. THAT'S FINE, THEN THEY'RE ENTITLED. RIGHT. BUT IF THERE IF COUNCIL HAS ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT DEVELOPMENT OR REGULATION, ANYTHING LIKE THAT, JUST THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED. AT THE SAME TIME, POTENTIALLY.ALRIGHT. COUNCILLORS REQUESTED EXECUTIVE SESSION DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS, UM UNDER WHAT? WOULD WHICH ONE CAN THEY REQUESTED UNDER OR CAN THEY YOU CAN ASK FOR LEGAL ADVICE FOR ME IF THAT'S DID TO BE ABLE TO FOR YOU TO ASK. RIGHT? OKAY. IS THAT SATISFACTORY? YOU WANT LEGAL ADVICE? OKAY ALL RIGHT. DO YOU WANT TO TAKE THAT LATER? TAKE IT DOWN. TAKE IT LATER WITH THE REST. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, THEN WE'LL TAKE IT LATER. ALL RIGHT, SO WE LEAVE THIS ITEM OPEN AS WELL. ALRIGHT, ITEM ILL. WE HAVE A ZONING CHANGE REQUESTS FROM INDUSTRIAL TO
[5.L. Approval of an Ordinance Zoning change from I - Industrial to I PD - Industrial Planned Development for an approximately 251-acre tract of land located on the east side of Harmonson Road at 10677 Harmonson Road. 6 McFarm LLC is the owner. Westgate Capital Group, LLC is the applicant. Case# PD-21-004.]
INDUSTRIAL PLAN DEVELOPMENT FOR 250 ACRE TRACK. FARMINGTON ROAD. THIS IS THE MC FARM AND WEST GATE CAPITAL. THEY ARE HERE THIS EVENING, MR EDEN. WHAT'S GOING ON HERE? THANK YOU, MAYOR.YES THIS IS A SIX MONTH FARM TRACK THE RECEIVED ZONING CHANGE APPROVAL BACK IN DECEMBER TWO STRAIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONE E. THEY HAVE REQUESTED A PLAN DEVELOPMENT THAT'S BASED ON THE INDUSTRIAL ZONING. AND AS JUST A FEW ADDITIONAL PROVISIONS. UM PRIMARILY, THESE ARE TO MATCH UP WITH PROVISIONS THAT WERE. PROVIDED TO THE FOSTER AND BUCHANAN PROPERTIES IN THEIR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. UM THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WHICH WAS DONE AND APPROVED PRIOR TO THOSE PROPERTIES ANNEXATION. UH COUNSEL AND STAFF HAS BEEN NEGOTIATING A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT AS WELL. ORIGINALLY THEY WERE MODELING AFTER THOSE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS. BUT BECAUSE THIS PROPERTY IS ALREADY IN THE TOWN LIMITS, THERE ARE CERTAIN PROVISIONS THAT CAN'T BE CHANGED THROUGH DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. THEY WOULD REQUIRE, UM. ZONING CHANGE, SO THAT IS THE REASON FOR THIS. PD. IT INCLUDES SOME OF THE PROVISIONS FOR, UM. MINOR REVISIONS FOR PROCESS FOR VARIANCE, INCLUDING THE TOWN COUNCIL CAN APPROVE SOME, UM STRICT COMPLIANCE TO DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, BUT AS IT COME BEFORE THE TOWN COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL THERE IS. UH THERE'S FIVE OR FOUR SPECIFIC. EXCEPTIONS TO DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT THEY ARE REQUESTING. UM. I THINK THE MAIN ONE THE BIG ONE. THEY'RE REALLY WANTING TO PUT THEM ON A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD IS THE SETBACK FROM UH FROM GAS WELLS, WHICH IS, UH, NORMALLY 300 FT.
THEY'RE REQUESTING 100 FT. THAT WAS GRANTED TO THE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS THROUGH DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. UM. THEY'VE ALSO REQUEST ADDITIONAL USES IN THE PD. BUT REALLY ALL THESE USES, UH, ARE. WOULD CURRENTLY FALL WITHIN USE IS ALLOWED WITHIN THE INDUSTRIAL ZONING. THIS JUST KIND OF ALLOW SOME MORE. SPECIFICITY TO GET THEM COMFORTABLE WITH THE ALLOWED USES. BUT THAT'S THE PRIMARY INTENTION OF THE P D, AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THEM. THIS. THE. AND HE DID CONSIDER THIS ZONING CHANGE AT THEIR LAST MEETING AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL UNANIMOUSLY. ALSO PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE REQUIRED ON THIS AND. NOTICES WERE SENT OUT TO SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS AND PUBLISHED IN THE NEWSPAPER AND ON THE TOWNS OF WEBSITE. WE DID RECEIVE ONE RESPONSE FROM A NEIGHBORING PROPERTY WHO WAS A NEUTRAL WHO WASN'T NECESSARILY IN FAVOR OR AGAINST. YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM WEST GATE CAPITAL COUNCIL? ALL RIGHT, PLEASE. COUNCIL AND MAYOR. MY NAME IS
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TOM HILLSMAN ON WITH WEST GATE CAPITAL, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE ABOUT. THIS PROPOSAL. IT'S REALLY IS, HE JUST POINTED OUT. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET THE SAME. LEVEL PLAYING FIELD THAT YOU CAN AND SKIN L HAVE SO THAT THERE'S SOME DEGREE OF HARMONY THROUGHOUT OF ALL OF OUR DEVELOPMENTS. COUNSELORS. OKAY. QUESTION FOR OUR STAFF. 300 FT.SETBACKS ON WELL SITES. WHAT'S THE REASON FOR THAT SAFETY? YES, I BELIEVE THAT WOULD BE THE PRIMARY REASON. UM. SAFETY FOR PEOPLE AS WELL AS UH, PROPERTY. OKAY, WELL, THEN.
ACCORDING TO THE CHANGES THAT WERE MADE TO THE OTHER TRACKS, IT HAD TO BEEN RECOMMENDED BY STAFF THAT WE LESSEN THAT FROM 301 100, RIGHT. IT WAS APPROVED IN A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
AND, UH, IN THE LAST IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS FOR BUCHANAN AND FOSTER THAT WERE APPROVED BACK IN DECEMBER. YES. IS THAT WHEN THEY'RE APPROVED? MAYBE A FEW MONTHS BEFORE THAT, BUT OKAY. SO, BUT STAFF HAD TO REVIEW THAT RIGHT AND APPROVE THAT THE SETBACKS WERE ACCEPTABLE, CORRECT. UH MADE THE SETBACKS THAT'S COMPLETELY WITHIN THE COUNCIL'S DISCRETION. I MEAN, IS IT SOMETHING THAT STAFF RECOMMENDS. I DID NOT MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. SO, UH, BUT YOU PRESENTED IT TO US. I'M JUST TRYING TO GET TO WATCH. THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHENEVER YOU START CHANGING THE RULES FOR ONE PROPERTY OWNER VERSUS ANOTHER. WHY DO WE HAVE THE RULE AT ALL? IF EVERYBODY IS GOING TO COME IN AND ASK FOR NO. WELL THEY GOTTA CHANGE. CAN'T I HAVE A CHANGE, TOO? CAN YOU TELL ME WHY YOU BELIEVE THE PRIMARY PURPOSE OF IT WAS TO PROTECT FROM HOUSES BEING THAT CLOSE PEOPLE LIVING IN THAT CONDITION? THESE INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS, IT'S MAINLY STORING PRODUCTS.
SO THERE'S A VERY DIFFERENT, UH, LEVEL OF SAFETY TO HUMAN LIFE AND BEING IN A SOMEWHAT CLOSER PROXIMITY TO GUESS WELL. SO IS, IS IT THEN 100 FT. SETBACK FROM A STRUCTURE OR 100 FT. SETBACK FROM A PARKING LOT FROM A STRUCTURE. THERE'S ENOUGH SETBACK REQUIREMENT FROM PARKING LOT. THESE ACTIVE WELLS CAPPED WELLS. ACTIVE THEY'RE THEY'RE THEY'RE ACTIVE WELLS AND WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE SURFACE USED AGREEMENT FIRST SETBACK, AND I THINK IT'S 150 FT. IN THAT ONE. ONE OF THE ISSUES WITH YOUR ORDINANCE IS THE ORDINANCE RAISED. THE SETBACK IS FROM THE BUILDABLE PORTION OF THE LOT. AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE BILLABLE PORTION OF A LOT MEANS. IT CAN MEAN DIFFERENT THINGS TO DIFFERENT PEOPLE. TO ME. THE BILLABLE PORTION OF THE LOT COULD BE ANY PART OF THE LOT. EXCEPT FOR THE SETBACK, SO ON A LARGE INDUSTRIAL LOT IF YOU HAVE A BUILDABLE PORTION OF A LOT, IT COULD BE YOU COULD HAVE A 20 FT SETBACK. AND AVAILABLE PORTION OF THE LOT, THEN COULD BEGIN THERE. SO BASICALLY YOU WOULD HAVE TO SET YOUR BUILDING BACK. MUCH FURTHER THAN YOU WOULD AND TAKE, PERHAPS IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA WHERE IT MAKES SENSE THAT. THE HOUSE IS VERY CLOSE TO THE EDGE OF THE PROPERTY LINE.
HERE. WE HAVE HOUSES OR WILL HAVE BUILDINGS THAT WILL NOT BE CLOSE TO THE PROPERTY LINE. BUT THE WAY YOU'RE ORDINANCE READS, THE SETBACK HAS TO BE FROM THE BUILDABLE PORTION OF THE LOT.
SO DOES THAT MEAN NATHAN? I THINK I'M LOOKING AT YOU ON THIS. DOES THAT MEAN IS WOULD THAT INCLUDE FLOODPLAIN STEPS? INTERPRETATION OF THAT IS THAT THE. THAT THERE BE A BUILDING SETBACK LINE MEASURED AT 300 FREE FROM THE GAS WELL, BOREHOLE, AND THAT SETS THE BUILDABLE PORTION OF THE LOT. YES. YEAH. THAT ESTABLISHES A BUILDING LINE BUILDING SETBACK LINE AT THAT POINT. IN IN THESE WELLS ARE LOCATED ON DRILL PADS. THAT WILL BE 300. FT BY 400 FT.
YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A DRILL PAD. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A WELL AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A, UH, SO THE SETBACK. THE AREA OF THE WELL PAD WILL WILL BE ALMOST ENOUGH WILL BE 150 OR 200. FT.
SO IT WILL BE SET BACK AT LEAST THAT FAR, BUT THEN YOU HAVE THE SETBACK OF THE BUILDABLE
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PORTION OF THE LOT, WHICH WE'RE NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT THAT MEANS. SO NATHAN DOES THAT THEN MEAN THAT THE BUILDING PROPORTION STARTS AT THE EDGE OF THE PAD SITE. IT'S MEASURED FROM THE GASOL BOREHOLE. SO, YEAH. IF YOU LOOK AT THE SITE PLANNED AND YOU LOOK AT WHERE THE WELLHEAD IS, AND THEN THIS THIS, FOR EXAMPLE, THE WEST WELL PAD THAT'S 300 OR 400. FT.BUT DEEP. SO THE WELLHEADS ALREADY 150 FT. BACK. AND THEN THERE'S GOING TO BE THE PARKING AREA. SO YOU'RE NOT LIKELY TO GET ANYWHERE NEAR 100 FT. BUT IT'S JUST MATCHING THE LANGUAGE.
IT'S JUST TRYING TO MATCH THE SAME LANGUAGE OF THE SKIN L AND THE BUCHANAN SO THAT WE'RE NOT SUBJECT TO DIFFERENT INTERPRETATIONS. AND IN OUR E T. J LIKE HARVEST THERE'S HOUSES WITHIN. PROBABLY 100, FT AND A BAD SITE RIGHT OFF PEOPLE TO GIVE. THE PAD SITE, BUT ALL THE HOMES OR AT LEAST 300 FT FROM YEAH, SO I MEAN, AND THERE IS DEFINITELY A SAFETY FACTOR FOR INDUSTRIAL VERSUS RESIDENTIAL PEOPLE SLEEPING AT NIGHT. EMERGENCY SERVICES, ETC.
THANK YOU. WELL, THAT'S THE CURRENT WELLHEAD. SO WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY DON'T COME IN AND PUT ONE ON THE EDGE OF THE WELL PAD, AND THEN WE HAVE A WHOLE DIFFERENT SET BACK SITUATION. STATIC CURIOSITY THESE VERTICAL WELLS OR HORIZONTAL. BELIEVE THEIR VERTICAL WELLS, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW WHEN THEY WERE BUT IN THAT WILL PROBABLY TELL YOU. I DON'T THERE, UH, DEVIN WELLS THAT ARE NOW BK V WELLS. I'M GUESSING THERE. I WANT TO SAY THERE THERE. THERE'S TWO HORIZONTAL AND MAYBE ONE VERTICAL. BUT I COULD BE HAVING, UM, PROPERTY MERGE, ARE WORKING ON LOTS OF PROPERTIES. AND THERE'S LOTS OF WELLS AND SOME ARE HORIZONTAL.
SOME ARE VERTICAL AND. UM YEAH, I CAN'T SAY FOR SURE. BUT I THINK IT'S PROBABLY A MIX. SOME HORIZONTAL ON SOME VERTICAL. SO DOES THIS MEET THE STANDARDS OF HOW MANY OTHER PROPERTIES THAT WE'VE ALLOWED THIS ON? BESIDES THE FOSTERING BUCHANAN TRACKS IS THIS WHAT WE HAVE IN THE NORTH PORT. NORTHPORT DOESN'T HAVE ANY. ANY WELLS OVER THERE OVER THERE IS ONE WELL OR A COUPLE OF HOLES IN THE NORTH POLAR AREA. AND THEY ARE MET. MEET THE 300 FT SET. OKAY? AND ACCORDING TO THIS DESIGN, HOW FAR IS THE BUILDING FROM THE BOAR HEAD? I GUESS ABOUT 300 FT. 150. BE ABOUT 150 TO THE EDGE OF THE PAD. ANOTHER 85 FOR PARKING. ANOTHER 50. IT'S PROBABLY AROUND 300, MAYBE TWO TO DO SOMETHING. NOW THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT ON THE OTHER SIDE. ON THE EAST SIDE. THAT BUILDING WILL PROBABLY BE A LITTLE CLOSER BECAUSE THAT'S A 300 BY 400 I BELIEVE. SO THE BUILDINGS AS SHOWN ON THE CONCEPT PLAN ARE SET BACK.
WELL, UM. A BAD CHOICE OF WORDS. IF THERE'S THEY'RE SET BACK A GOOD DISTANCE. UM AGAIN, IT'S WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MIMIC WHAT WAS IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT OF THE, UM PEOPLE NEARBY. TO FOLLOW THAT, BUT YOU KNOW THE APPLICATION OF IT MATTERS. UM. IN TERMS OF YEAH.
ALL RIGHT. I'M THINKING OUT LOUD AND THAT COME WAS THERE WERE THERE OTHER CONCESSIONS THAT THE IN THAT DEVELOP AGREEMENT? I MEAN, WE'RE COME. ARE WE COMPARING APPLES TO APPLES OR APPLES TO ORANGES HERE IN TERMS OF DEVELOP AGREEMENTS. NATHAN AND DREW. I KNOW THAT'S A TOUGH QUESTION. BUT I MEAN THE OTHER GUYS GIVE SOMETHING UP TO GET THAT. WELL.
THE ONE THING WE DID GET AND THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR THE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS. WE GOT ANNEXATION. SO THIS ONE IS ALREADY NX. AND THAT'S ONE REASON WE CAN'T DO THIS IN AN AGREEMENT AND HAVE TO DO IT THROUGH THROUGH ZONING. AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE REQUESTING.
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DO YOU REMEMBER IF THIS CAME UP WHEN WE APPROVED MADE THE OTHER APPROVALS LAST WINTER FOLLOWING WHENEVER WE MADE THEM? I DON'T REMEMBER IT BEING DISCUSSED IN DETAIL. WHY DO WE HAVE THAT RULE IF WE'RE GOING TO BLEW IT AWFUL LOT. KIND OF LIKE, NATHAN SAID. IT'S THE ONE SIZE FITS.IT'S ALL RULE. IT WAS PRIMARILY FOR RESIDENTIAL AREAS. UM AND WE HAVE IN OTHER INSTANCES.
FROM PDS ALLOWED PEOPLE TO BUILD CLOSER TO GAS WELLS. UM, IT'S MORE OF WHO WHO'S THERE FIRST. A LOT OF THE PROTECTION IS. FOR GAS WELLS TO BE SEPARATED FROM EXISTING HOUSING HOUSES. IF SOMEBODY COMES IN. AFTER THE FACT THAT THERE WERE AWARE THAT THE GAS WELLS THERE AND THEN THEY SO. THEY COME IN WITH BOTH EYES OPEN, MAYBE WILL SAY ONE EXAMPLE IS MR KHAN REQUESTED A VARIANCE TO ALLOW. SOME ACCESSORY STRUCTURES CLOSER TO 300 FT. FROM GASOL ON THAT SIDE. SO AND HE SPECIFICALLY POINTED OUT. THESE ARE BUILDINGS THAT NOBODY'S GOING TO RESIDE ON RESIDE IN, SO IT'S. IT'S NOT LIKE BUILDING A HOUSE WITHIN THAT SO SIMILAR.
THESE BUILDINGS ARE GOING TO BE SOME OF OUR OR SOMEBODY'S GONNA BE. THE LIVING AND IT WAS NOT GOING TO BE A HIGH DENSITY OF PEOPLE WITHIN THEM, EITHER. I THINK ANOTHER THING IS THAT OUR GUEST WILL ORDNANCE WAS CRAFTED AT THE HEIGHT OF. GUESTS WILL EXPLORATION PROBABLY 8 4009, OR MAYBE ON THE TAIL END OF IT. IT WAS STARTING TO SLOW DOWN BY THEN, ANYWAY. BUT, UM I THINK OVER TIME WE'VE WE BUT. THERE'S BEEN MORE COEXISTENCE WITH GAS WELLS THAN THERE HAS IN THE PAST. THERE'S MORE UNDERSTANDING AND PEOPLE SEE HOW THEY OPERATE, BUT UM THAT'S.
THAT'S PART OF IT, TOO, I GUESS. AND THEN WE WHEN WE DID OUR GUESS WHAT? REMEMBER? WE BROUGHT IN. IT WAS OUR CONSULTING PLANNER AND HER HUSBAND CAME IN THE MITCHELLS CAME IN AND DID THAT AND WE BORROWED FLOWER MOUNTS. GAS. WELL, LORD INCIDENT THEY'RE NOT.
BORROW TO USE THAT AS A BASIS, SO THAT'S KIND OF SOME OF THE BACKGROUND WHEN WE WHEN WE. SO THE ORDER NUTS HAS BEEN MORE TO NOT LET SOMEONE DRILL A GAS WELL WITHIN 300 FT OF A HOUSE THAN IT IS TO BUILD A HOUSE WITHIN 300 FT OF EXISTING GAS. WELL, THEY'RE TWO DIFFERENT.
600 FT, RIGHT. 600 FT IS FOR DRILLING A GUESS WELL ADJACENT TO EXISTING HOMES, BUT TO BUILD A STRUCTURE. NEAR EXISTING GAS WILL YOU HAVE TO BE AT LEAST 300 FT AWAY? AND THAT'S FOR ANY ANY TYPE OF BUILDING. RIGHT, SO IT'S KIND OF A. CATCH ALL HOW ABOUT THIS? DOES THE RAILROAD COMMISSION HAVE A MINIMUM DISTANCE FROM BOARD? OR ANYTHING YET. YES. I WAS JUST TRYING TO SEE IF THERE IS A MINIMUM GUIDANCE SOMEWHERE. SO WHAT I'M HEARING, YOU SAY, IS THAT IT'S SOMEWHAT DISCRETION OVER THE COUNCIL. BUT IT'S MORE IMPORTANT THAT THE APPLICANT KNOW WHERE THESE ARE AND NOT BE UNINFORMED ABOUT A WHILE. THAT'S GOING TO BE PUT IN. THE PROPERTY NEXT TO THEIR STRUCTURE. BUT IF YOU KNOW IT'S THERE. ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH YOUR WITH YOUR SEPARATION? YES. YES AND WHY IS THAT? BECAUSE I THINK THAT. THE ORDINANCE WHEN IT WAS PASSED BACK THEN, AS DREW SAID EARLIER. WE HAVE A LOT MORE KNOWLEDGE OF THE SAFETY AND WHAT WE WHAT WE BELIEVE WE CAN DO CLOSER TO GAS WELLS THAN WE DID PROBABLY FIVE OR 10 YEARS AGO. IN YOUR MIND. WHAT IS THE SAFETY FACTOR AS EXPLOSIVE AS A FUMES, IS IT WHAT? WELL, IT. IT'S ALL OF THE ABOVE. BUT OBVIOUSLY, UH I WOULD SAY THAT. EXPLOSION WOULD BE THE FIRST THING AND WE'RE WELL SET BACK FROM THAT. FUMES COULD BE POSSIBLE. BUT BK V IS A GOOD OPERATOR AND UM THERE. THEY'RE GOOD WITH OUR BUILDING CLOSE. TO THEIR DRILL PAD THERE. SO. YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF IF THEY'RE THE ONES WHO ARE DRILLING, AND THEY AGREE THAT ARE BUILT THAT ARE BUILDINGS CAN BE AS CLOSE TO THEIR. WELLS AS SHOWN ON THIS PLANT. MHM. I THINK WE'RE ALL GOOD WITH IT. AND HOW DID THEY PROVIDE THAT ASSURANCE TO YOU? JUST FOR OUR SAKE? BECAUSE WE'RE TAKING YOU WERE DOING YOUR WORD FOR WE'RE DOING A SURFACE USE AGREEMENT WITH THEM. THAT'S DEFINING EXACTLY THE SIZE OF THE WELL PADS. AND JUST AND THE DRILL
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SITES. THEY'VE ALREADY AGREED WITH YOU. THEY JUST AGREED. VERBALLY IN PRINCIPLE ARE NOW WE HAVE WE HAVE A DOCUMENT THAT'S IN DENVER WAITING FOR BK V SIGNATURE. RIGHT? GOT SOMETHING. PROBABLY 300 FT IN YEAH, YEAH, BUT GREEN AGAIN. IT'S BUILDABLE PORTION OF THE LOT. WHAT'S YOUR DEFINITION OF THAT, AND OKAY, SO WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE. UM. CHANGING ZONING HEAR FROM INDUSTRIAL INDUSTRIAL PD. AND THIS IS ONE OF THE SIGNIFICANT FACTORS WERE DISCUSSING. UM WHAT ELSE? CONCERN HERE, EDDIE MM. SO THEY'RE ALL OUTLINED WITHIN THAT EXHIBIT C. THOSE ARE THE CHANGES FROM OUR STANDARD. IT'S FOR INDUSTRIAL ZONING. IT'S SPECIFICALLY ALLOWS A FEW USES, BUT AS I STATED EARLIER, ALL THESE USES THE QUALITY AND USES STEP, BUT THESE ARE ALREADY PERMITTED THIS KIND OF JUST SPECIFICALLY CAUSE THE MOUTH, SO IT'S SURE THING. YEAH. SO. IT ALSO PROVIDES A PROVISION THAT THE MAYOR OF TEL MANAGER DESIGNATE CAN ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVED SOME MINOR REVISIONS.SOME. CHANGES IN HEIGHT OF STRUCTURES REDUCTION, THE SETBACKS AND COVERAGE OF 10% OR LESS. MHM. YEAH. IT ALLOWS FOR THE TOWN COUNCIL TO WAIVE COMPLIANCE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS. SO. OUTLINES THE REQUIREMENTS OF THAT. THAT IT HAS FOUR DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ARE EXCEPTIONS TO THE. REGULAR DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, INCLUDING THE. SET BACK FROM GASOL HAS A 100 FT. ALSO ALLOWS FOR THE ORIENTATION. YEAH.
LOADING DOCKS TO FACE. PUBLIC RIGHTS AWAY AS LONG AS THERE'S A MINIMUM THREE FT. FIRM WITH TREES AND SHRUBS, MEETING OUR LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS. ALSO REQUIRES. ROOFTOP SCREENING OF NOT TO EXCEED SIX FT. ANYTHING LOCATED 50 FT FROM THE EXTERIOR WALLS. SO THESE HAVE TO BE.
COME UP WITH TO PROPOSE THEM SO. WHAT? WHAT IS IT? YOU'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH HERE BY THESE. I UNDERSTAND THE RIGHT OF WAY ONE IT MAKES. I MEAN, THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE BEING ABLE TO HAVE THE LOADING DOCKS FACE THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. IT IS AN INDUSTRIAL ROAD, AND THERE'S NOTHING ELSE DOWN THERE PLAIN BUT INDUSTRIAL SO. UNDERSTOOD THAT I DON'T REALLY CARE WHAT THE VIEW IS FROM A FROM A TRUCKER'S POINT OF VIEW. BUT WHAT? WHAT ABOUT YOU? WHAT IS UNIQUE ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO? THAT'S DIFFERENT FROM OUR INDUSTRIAL ZONING THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH HERE THAT YOU NEED IN ORDER TO MAKE THIS PROJECT WORK WELL, ONE OF THEM WOULD BE THE. THE VERTICAL ARTICULATION. YOU HAVE VERTICAL ARTICULATION STANDARDS AND THAT REQUIRES YOUR BUILDING. NOT BE FLAT, BUT IT COME OUT AT DIFFERENT AREAS, WHICH MAKES SENSE. EXCEPT ON THE LOADING DOCKS. BECAUSE THE LOADING DOCKS YOU WANT THE LOADING DOCK WALLS TO BE FLAT, AND YOU WANT THEM. ALL THAT. SPACE IS TO BE EQUAL, SO THE WAY THAT WE INSTEAD OF USING VERTICAL ARTICULATION IN THOSE CASES, WHAT WE DO IS WE EITHER USE DIFFERENT BUILDING MATERIALS TO GIVE IT SOME SORT OF. ASSAD YES, SUPPORT OR WE PAINT IT DIFFERENTLY. SOMETIMES WE PUT USE PAINT OR SOMETHING JUST TO GIVE SOME VISUAL APPEAL TO IT WITHOUT HAVING THE VERTICAL INARTICULATE, UH, VERTICAL OR HORIZONTAL ARTICULATIONS. YOU STILL WOULD HAVE THE HORIZONTAL ARTICULATION. SO YOU STILL HAVE.
THINGS GOING UP AND DOWN. THE IDEA IS TO KEEP IT FROM LOOKING LIKE A SQUARE CEMENT BOX. I GET IT AND IS THAT CONSISTENT? WHAT WILL BE DONE IN THE NORTH PORT AND BEGINNING AND FOSTER. YES THAT IS CONSISTENT FOR INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES. IT JUST IT JUST REQUIRES VERTICAL AND HORIZONTAL ARTICULATION. BUT IT DOESN'T SPECIFY HOW OFTEN IT HAS TO BE. AND USUALLY IT'S KIND OF THE IN CAP OFFICE SPACES PROVIDE FOR THAT ARTICULATION. SO. AND YOU DON'T INTEND TO HAVE THOSE ON THESE. WE WOULD HAVE THOSE ON ON THE CORNERS WHERE YOU'D HAVE OFFICE.
YOU WOULD HAVE VERTICAL AND HORIZONTAL ARTICULATION ON THE LOADING DOCKS. YOU DON'T WANT
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TO HAVE ANY VERTICAL ARTICULATION. YOU JUST WANTED TO BE FLAT. THIS JUST ALLOWS.STANDARD APARTMENT AS IT BE PROVIDED ON ANY ELEVATION. THAT WOULD MEAN IT WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE IN THE LOADING DOCK AS LONG AS THERE WAS SOME ELEMENT. MHM SO WHAT I'M GETTING TO IS. THAT SEEMS LIKE A PROBLEM WE WOULD HAVE WITH EVERY INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE THAT GETS BUILT. ARE WE EXEMPTING IT EACH TIME WE DO IT. IF SO, WHY HAVEN'T WE COME BEFORE THIS BEFORE AND CHANGED IT AS A STANDARD? NO, WE'RE NOT. WE'RE NOT THEY WOULD MEET THE ARTICULATION REQUIREMENT AS LONG AS I HAVE IT AT SOME POINT ON THAT BUILDING ELEVATION THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE OKAY, SO THEY'RE ASKING FOR AN EXEMPTION, BUT WE HAVE WAREHOUSES. SO WHY IS THIS ONE DIFFERENT? IT'S REALLY NOT NECESSARY, IN MY OPINION IF THEY HAVE THE. OFFICE SPACES AND THE IN CAPS THAT MEET THE YES. I THINK THE REASON THAT REQUESTING IT IS JUST A MATCH WHAT WAS IN THE DEVELOPMENT GROUP? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. QUESTION. ARTICULATION IF YOU DON'T MIND, OKAY, SO WOULD THE I KNOW THIS GETS INTO THE WEEDS. BUT WOULD THE MEASUREMENT BE TAKEN FROM THE GROUND FLOOR ARTICULATION AND WHERE THE UPPER FLOOR MIGHT SHUT OUT LIKE A FRANK LLOYD WRIGHT. OR IS IT TAKEN FROM THE FURTHEST POINT OUT THE WAY OUR ORDINANCE READS? THERE'S NO SPECIFIC MEASUREMENT ON ARTICULATION FOR INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS. IT'S PRETTY IT'S PRETTY BROAD. AT THE MEASUREMENT FROM THE WILL IS GOING TO TAKE PLACE AT GROUND LEVEL FROM THE WELLHEAD. SO OKAY, SO IF SOMETHING HANGS OUT OVER THAT WE DON'T MEASURE FROM THERE, CORRECT. I'M SAYING. YEAH, IF THERE WAS LIKE AN OVERHANG OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BALCONIES LONG AS IT. WAS 18 INCHES OR 24 INCHES, WHATEVER OUR ALLOWANCES IN THE ZONING CODE. THAT WOULD BE EXEMPT. BUT BUT OTHERWISE, IF THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED.
BUILDING WALL. AND NOT NOT BE ALLOWED THEIR STRUCTURE. NOT BE ALLOWED PAST THAT BUILDING LINE. MHM. YEAH, YEAH, YOU COULDN'T BUILD 10 FT AND THEN HAVE. 10 FT. 50 FT OUT IN ORDER TO TRY AND GET AROUND THAT STANDARD. WELL I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT A FEW FEET OUT. I'M TALKING ABOUT 50 FT OUT. BUT I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT IF YOU'VE GOT SOMETHING ALLOWANCE FOR, LIKE UP TO TWO FT. OKAY SO THEY CAN DO THAT WITHOUT HAVING TO RE MEASURE. OKAY? THIS.
THEY'RE ALSO PROPOSING THIS WITH 10% CHANGES THAT COULD BE APPROVED. STEP. RIGHT COUNSELORS ASK A LOT OF QUESTIONS. UM, WE GOT TO GET TO A POINT WHERE WE'RE. READY WE'RE FEELING LIKE WE'RE READY TO TAKE A VOTE ON THIS OR NOT. I NEED A LITTLE DIRECTION HERE AS TO READY READY NOW. WE HAVEN'T SORRY. AND I HAVE A LEGAL QUESTION. BUT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, LET'S DO PUBLIC HEARING THEM. IT IS 8:15 P.M. AND WE NEED TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING TO TALK ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR ITEM. MY NAME IS TOM HILL'S BEEN I'M WITH THE ESCAPE CAPITAL, AND I'M IN FAVOR OF THE ITEM. ARE YOU SURE? OUR RESERVATION. ALRIGHT. IT'S ANY OTHER THIS EVENING. I'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS TOPIC. ALRIGHT 8. 16 PM WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING HAVEN'T HEARD FROM ONE ALL RIGHT COUNSELORS WHAT YOU WANT TO DO WITH THIS? I HAVE A LEGAL QUESTION, BUT I'M AFRAID WE HAVE TO ASK IT AN EXECUTIVE SESSION. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, THEN.
I MEAN, CAN SHE ASK THE QUESTION THAT WE DETERMINE WHETHER THE ANSWER WOULD NEED TO GO BACK. I WONDER ABOUT LIABILITY LIABILITY ON THE PART OF THE TOWN IF WE GIVE WAIVERS LIKE THIS ARE WE AT ALL LIABLE OKAY? ART, AND WE'LL NEED TO TAKE THIS ONE BACK THEN. ADAM
[5.M. Approval of a Resolution to authorize Town Manager to Execute Change Order No. 1 with Landmark Structures for the installation of Pressure Reducing Valve at a cost not to exceed $175,000.00]
N. IS THAT CORRECT? LANDMARK IT'S EVER READ AT THIS POINT. YES, I BELIEVE SO. ALL RIGHT.WE HAVE A RESOLUTION TO AUTHORIZE TOWN MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CHANGE ORDER. THIS IS FOR WATER TOWERS, THE NORTH WATER TOWER. IN PARTICULAR. THERE IS A NEED FOR A PRESSURE REDUCING VALVE ON THE WESTBOUND SECTION OF THAT WATER LINE THAT SERVES PECAN SQUARE. NORTHRIDGE ESTATES OF FLORENCE INTO STARDUST. THE PRESSURE IF THE WATER TOWER TURNED ON WOULD BE TOO HIGH. IN THE DETERMINATION OF OUR ENGINEER, AND SO A PRESSURE REDUCING VALVES REQUIRED. THIS IS NOT PART OF THE ORIGINAL DESIGN AND THEREFORE WE NEED TO BRING IT BACK HERE FOR YOUR DISCUSSION COST 175,000 AND IS COVERED BY, UM, WHICH FUND. THE NORTH PRESSURE PLAYING IMPACT FEE FUND. OKAY, WE HAVE THE FUNDS FOR THIS, OKAY? DO WE HAVE ANYONE TO TALK ABOUT THIS TONIGHT? ANY FURTHER OR DID I COVER IT? OKAY COUNCIL YOUR QUESTIONS. WAS JUST CURIOUS. WE KNOW THE HEIGHT OF THE TOWER. WE KNOW THE PRESSURE PLANE.
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WHY? HOW DID WE MISS THIS? IT'S A LOT OF MONEY SHOULD UM IT WOULD STILL COST. RIGHT, AND SO IT WAS MISSED BY OUR ENGINEER. AND SO YOU CAN HAVE PAY FOR IT, THEN. WELL, I NEEDED, UH, NEED TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION ON THAT AS WELL. OKAY. SERIOUSLY SORRY. POSSESSION. DOES THE COUNCIL WANT TO MAKE ANY DECISIONS TONIGHT? IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE GOING BACK THERE FOR A WHILE. ALL RIGHT? IS THERE ANY OTHER THINGS THAT YOU NEED TO ASK NOW, BEFORE WE. GO BACK TO TALK ABOUT THAT AS WELL. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION THIS ITEM, SO AT LEAST WHEN WE COME BACK, WE GET AN ANSWER TO THAT WE CAN TAKE ACTION. ALRIGHT, I'LL TAKE IT. NO UM, DOING IT NOW WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ONE FOR ONCE. ALRIGHT, THEN[5.N. Approval of a Resolution to authorize Town Manager to contract with Halff and Associates for design of Catherine Branch Wastewater Trunk Line Phase 2 at a cost not to exceed $525,000.00]
ITEM IN APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION TO AUTHORIZE. 10 MANAGED TO CONTRACT WITH HALF FOR THE DESIGN OF CATHERINE BRANCH. WASTEWATER TRUNK LINE PHASE TO THE DESIGN WORK ONLY FOR 525,000. YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT THAT? WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS PROJECT. JUST THAT THIS IS, UM MM. VERY IMPORTANT. THIS IS ALL PART OF OUR PLAN TO PROVIDE SEWER SERVICE TO CATHERINE BRANCH AND GET OVER TO THE BAKER TRACK. UM. WE'VE GOT THE FUNDING FOR IT. THE REASON THAT. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING HALF AS I'VE ALREADY DONE THE ROUTE STUDY AND THIS IS THE FASTEST WAY. TO GET TO GET THIS DONE, AND THIS IS THIS IS A PRIORITY OF THE COUNCIL. SO THIS IS THE WAY WE CAN GET THIS DONE THE QUICKEST. DO YOU TIM? LOOKING AT ALL THESE NUMBERS? I CAN'T COMPARE THEM TO ANYTHING. UM IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'VE GOT A FAIRLY.COMPREHENSIVE ASSESSMENT OF WHAT THE COST IS. DO YOU RECOMMEND? THE COST? IS IT IS IT FAVORABLE? IS IT NOT? IS IT CONSERVATIVE, IS IT? I NEED TO GO IN EXECUTIVE SESSION TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. ALL RIGHT, COUNSELORS. YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO ASK ABOUT THIS TOPIC OF THE PLATES? WELL, WE CAN LEAVE THOSE. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. I'M NOT HEARING ANYTHING ELSE, SO WE BETTER GET TO WORK. ALL RIGHT? THERE IS AN ITEM ONE HERE IS THE PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY, UM, RECOMMEND LEAVING IT ALONE? GOOD WITH THAT? YES. ALRIGHT. IT'S 8:20
[Executive Session (Part 1 of 2)]
P.M. WE NEED TO RETIRE TO EXECUTIVE SESSION UNDER WHAT SECTIONS? ASHLEY. 551.71.551.7255 FOR LEGAL ADVICE UNDER THESE SECTIONS. ITEMS WE MENTIONED TALKING ABOUT THAT BACK. THERE WERE ALSO. OKAY, SO EVERYTHING INCLUDED AS 55171 AND H IT IS 905 PM AND
[7. Reconvene into Open Session In accordance with Texas Government Code, Section 551, the Town Council will reconvene into Open Session and consider action, if any, on matters discussed in Executive Session P. Development Agreement with 6McFarm LLC and Westgate Capital Group LLC Q. Retail Sewer Service Agreement with Continental U.S. Management LLC R. Development Agreement with Westview Trails LLC]
BY GENERAL CONSENT. WE'VE RETURNED TO GENERAL SESSION. AT THIS TIME, WE'RE GOING TO PICK UP WITH ITEM H APPROVAL ORDINANCE ON THE MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN AMENDMENT. WE HAVE SOME PROPOSALS HERE TONIGHT. COUNCIL HOW DO YOU WANT TO HANDLE THIS? AS FAR AS TAKING WHAT EXISTING? DO YOU NEED TO ADD ANYTHING? TAKE ANYTHING AWAY. I NEED A MOTION ON THIS. IT'S A MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE CHANGES AS OUR DIRECT STAFF TO START A PROJECT LIST FOR FUTURE COUNCIL. I HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND THEN, ALL RIGHT. I HAVE A SECOND OVER HERE. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION BY THE COUNCIL ON THE ITEMS PROPOSED UNDER THE MOTION. ALL RIGHT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE, ALRIGHT. ANY OPPOSED ONE DAY. VERY GOOD. WE CAN SKIP TO ADAM L. ITEM. L ALL RIGHT. THIS IS PART OF THE CATHERINE BRANCH PROJECT. THE HARM ANSON ROAD. THIS IS THE MCX FARM ZONING CHANGE FROM INDUSTRIAL TO INDUSTRIAL TD. COUNCIL. DO YOU HAVE EMOTION FOR US THIS EVENING? MOTION TO APPROVE. HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE. DO I HAVE A 2ND 2ND HAVE A SECOND FROM DR SESSIONS DISCUSSION BY COUNSEL. ALL RIGHT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY, AYE AYE, ANY OPPOSED? VERY GOOD. GOOD. I M P. YEAH. OKAY? ITEM P IS A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH SIX MC FARM.THIS IS THE SAME PROPERTY IN WHICH WE JUST DID THE ZONING CHANGE THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREE
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AGREEMENT AFFECTS THE PROPERTY. AND AS WITH WEST GATE CAPITAL WHO IS HERE THIS EVENING? UM COUNSELORS, YOUR DISCUSSION AND OR EMOTIONS. MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE TO HAVE A SECOND THIS EVENING. HAVE A SECOND FROM PLACE FIVE. ALRIGHT COUNCIL DISCUSSION. ALL RIGHT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE, ALRIGHT, AND HE OPPOSED. ALL RIGHT. WELCOME TO NORTH LAKE. I DIDN'T PAY ITEM. Q. THIS IS SWITCHING GEARS A LITTLE BIT FURTHER ALONG CATHERINE BRANCHES OF THE RETAIL SEWER SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH CONTINENTAL U. S MANAGEMENT PROPERTY ON THE WEST SIDE OF 1 56. UM. AND THIS IS FOR A SUPER AGREEMENT WITH THE TOWN OF NORTH LAKE PURSUANT TO US BUILDING. THE CATHERINE BRANCH WOULD BE THE FIRST TO AGREEMENT ALONG THAT NEW SECTION. COUNCIL YOUR DISCUSSION COMING OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO TALK ABOUT THIS AND OR YOUR EMOTIONS? INTO PROOF.HAVE MOTION TO APPROVE TO HAVE A SECOND THIS EVENING. I WAS SECOND FROM PLACE TO ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION THIS EVENING. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE HIGH AND HE OPPOSED VERY GOOD. ARE. ITEM ARE WE HAVE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH WEST FEW TRAILS LLC. THIS IS THE END CAP OF THE CATHERINE BRANCH PROJECT, MR BAKER. THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR HIS PROPERTY. UM, WHICH HE WOULD BE THE SEWER, ALSO A SEWER CUSTOMER WITH US. THE WATER SERVICE FOR THE WEST ONE. THESE 56 WILL BE PROVIDED BY JUSTIN OR ARRANGEMENTS THAT THEY WILL BUY ANOTHER WATER PROVIDER. NOT BY THE TOWN, OKAY? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR. FOR THAT. CLARIFICATION UM THIS IS DOES INCLUDE ANNEXATION AS A REQUIREMENT AND DETAILS THE RELATIONSHIP WE HAVE WITH THIS PROJECT. COUNCIL DISCUSSION. ALL RIGHT. DO I HAVE A MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE FROM FROM PLACE TO I HAVE A SECOND FROM PLACE FIVE.
THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT. LET'S VOTE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ALRIGHT, THOSE OPPOSED ONE DAY. ALRIGHT ENDEAVORING TO THE ATTENDEES. LET'S GO BACK TO K. THIS LAST ONE. WE HAVE MR COIN. WE HAVE HIM AND IN BUT THOSE ARE STAFF RELATED AND WE CAN WAIT TILL THE END. UNDERSTOOD OKAY, SO ITEM K. THIS IS BACK TO THE 14 YEAR ACRE TRACK. MR FRISBY IS THE APPLICANT REQUESTING TO REZONE 23. TWO ACRE LOTS FOR A PORTION OF HIS PROPERTY.
COUNCIL YOUR DISCUSSION COMING OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION. ALL RIGHT. DO I HAVE A MOTION RELATED TO THIS PARTICULAR ITEM? MAKE A MOTION TO LEAVE IT, AS IS SO YOU'RE ASKING FOR EMOTION TO TODAY? YES, SIR. OKAY? DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? OKAY? ALL RIGHT. DO I HAVE A SECOND? ALL RIGHT. WE DON'T HAVE A SECOND, SO MOTION FAILS FOR ONE OF A SECOND. DO WE HAVE ANOTHER MOTION? WHAT OPTIONS DOES THE COUNCIL HAVE HERE? MOTION TO APPROVE OUR MOTION TO DENYING. IS THERE A MOTION TO TABLE. WHAT ARE THE IMPLICATIONS? TAKE IT UP YOUR NEXT MEETING. ACTUALLY. OKAY? COUNSELORS. HAVE TWO OTHER OPTIONS TO CHOOSE FROM. AN APPROVAL OR A TABLE. I HAVE A MOTION. I HAVE A MOTION TABLE FROM PLACE SIX. MY SECOND. ALL THOSE IN ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION. DATE, SIR. WHICH WE'VE ALREADY NOTICED. OKAY WHICH WHICH STATE IS OUR NEXT MEETING? YOU WANT TO DO THE NEXT MEETING OR DATE CERTAIN YOU CAN DO THAT. GET THE EIGHTH. OBVIOUSLY 8TH AUGUST 22ND CAN WE DO THE NEXT MEETING? OKAY.
DOES THAT WORK FOR YOUR MOTION? I AGREE WITH THE MOTIONS TO TABLE UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING.
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ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION FROM COUNCILS COUNSELORS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTIONS TABLE SAY I ALRIGHT. ANY OPPOSED. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL TAKE THIS UP AGAIN. YEAH. RIGHT ITEM IN ITEMS HIM AND IN, OR M AND THEN IN, OKAY, LET'S TAKE THEM SEPARATE. HOW WE DOING ON TIME? 9 12, WE'RE STILL GOOD. ALRIGHT ITEM IN APPROVAL RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING TOWN MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CHANGE ORDER NUMBER ONE WITH LANDMARK STRUCTURES FOR INSTALLATION OF PRESSURE REDUCING VALVE. THE PRESSURE REDUCING VALVE IS NEEDED. WE WILL NOTE THAT OUR OUR ENGINEERS MISSED THIS REQUIREMENT IN THE INITIAL, UH. INITIAL PROPOSAL, SOMETHING WE STILL NEEDED TO DO ANYWAY. BUT WE'VE NOTED THAT THIS WAS A MISS, AND WE DISCUSSED OUR RESPONSE TO THAT WITH THE ENGINEERING EXECUTIVE SESSION. AND THE COUNSELORS HAVE WISHED ME TO CONVEY THAT WE ARE SATISFIED WITH THEIR RESPONSE AS TO THEIR, UM THEIR MISTAKE.SO AT THIS TIME, WE HAVE THE ITEM NOW TO CONSIDER AUTHORIZING THE TOWN MANAGER TO PURCHASE THIS PRESSURE REDUCING VALVE. IT WILL BE PAID FOR THROUGH THE IMPACT FEE FUND.
NORTHEAST IMPACT FEE AND WE DO HAVE THE FUNDS TO DO IT. THEREFORE, COUNSELORS YOUR RECOMMENDATION MOTION TO APPROVE. MOTION TO APPROVE FROM THE MAYOR. PRETEND TO HAVE A 2ND 2ND. HAVE A SECOND FROM DR SESSIONS. TAKE THAT ONE FIRST. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION FROM THE COUNSELORS ON THIS ITEM. ALL RIGHT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE, ALRIGHT. HE OPPOSED. VERY GOOD ITEM IN OFF APPROVAL. THE RESOLUTION TO AUTHORIZE THE TOWN MANAGER TO CONTRACT WITH HALF FOR THE DESIGN OF THE CATHERINE BRANCH WASTEWATER TRUNK LINE, PHASE TWO AT A COST NOT TO EXCEED 525,000. COUNCIL IS YOUR DISCUSSION ON THIS. THIS IS THE SEWER LINE THAT RUNS FROM THE HALFWAY POINT ROUGHLY BETWEEN 1 56 AND 9 35 AT THE END POINT OF THE PROJECTS THAT HAVE PREVIOUSLY BEEN APPROVED AND RUNNING IT ALL THE WAY OUT TO THE BAKER TRACKED THE WEST FEW TRAILS PROJECT THAT WAS JUST APPROVED UNDER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. AND THIS WOULD BE THE TRUNK LINE TO CONNECT THE SEWER, ALSO TO THE HUGE PROPERTY, THE OTHER ONE THAT WAS US CONTINENTAL THAT WAS DISCUSSED THIS IN PAST THIS EVENING. COUNSELORS. YOUR, UM YOUR CONSIDERATION AND DECIDE HIM. THIS IS BEING PAID FOR BY.
THIS. THIS WOULD BE PAID FOR BY THE COUNCIL IMPROVEMENT. SUPER. THIS CAN BE THE 2000. 21 SERIES.
THE PROPOSED SERIES AT YOUR LAST COUNCIL MEETING YOU APPROVED A REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION. WE STILL HAVE FUNDS IN THE PHASE ONE. THAT. WILL BE ABLE TO ACCESS BECAUSE WE'RE NOT THROUGH WITH PHASE ONE. WE HAVEN'T EVEN ISSUED THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT. SO WE'VE GOT THE CASH TO DO THAT. AND UPON ISSUANCE OF THE DEBT WILL REIMBURSE. THAT FOR THESE DESIGN PROJECTS, BUT THIS IS TO EXPEDITE THE DESIGN OF PHASE TWO TO CATCH UP WITH PHASE ONE.
OTHER QUESTIONS. GROUP WILL START. WE WILL START GETTING PAID BACK FROM THAT. BUT. MORE TAX REVENUE WITHIN A FEW VERY FEW YEARS. YES YES, WE'VE GOT, UH, WE'VE GOT PLATS ALREADY FOR THE CANNON AND FOSTER. WE JUST. APPROVED THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE WEST GATE.
AND SO WE ANTICIPATE QUITE A BIT OF INDUSTRIAL SPACE BEING BUILT WITHIN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. WASHABLE PROOF. MOTION APPROVED FROM THE MAYOR PRO TEM, DO YOU HAVE A SECOND? SECOND FROM WEST. IS THAT YOU? OKAY? THANK YOU, SIR. HAVE A MOTION IN THE SECOND. IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE, AYE. YOUR POST.
VERY GOOD. READ IT ALL. WHO. MHM. THAT IT, MR COYNE. YES SIR. WE HAVE MAYBE A COUPLE MORE CLEANUP ITEMS IN TO DISCUSS AN EXECUTIVE SESSION, BUT NO ACTION RELATED TO THOSE.
[Executive Session (Part 2 of 2)]
OKAY, SO WE'RE GONNA RETIRE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AGAIN. YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. IT IS 9 16 PM AND RETIRE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. OUR DEADLINE FOR TAKING ACTION ON ANYTHING IS 9:30 P.M, AND I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANYTHING LEFT TO TAKE ACTION THAT'S BEEN NOTICED. SO ANYWAY, WE WILL NOT BE TAKING MORE ACTION TONIGHT. UM. AFTER 9 30, SO DON'T EXPECT TO HAVE[03:00:01]
ANYTHING ELSE, BUT THANK YOU FOR ATTENDING TONIGHT. YOU KNOW IT TAKES SOME TIME. BUT TAKING TIME AS WHAT? WE'RE HERE TO MAKE SURE WE DO AND GET THIS RIGHT. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR STAYING APPRECIATE IT. WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT TIME. IT IS 9 34 PM AFTER RETURNING FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION WITH NO ACTION TO TAKE. WE STAND ADJOURNED BY GENERAL CONSENT.THANK YOU, COUNSELORS.
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