5.I. Authorize Town Manager to contract with Plummer Associates for a route study of Denton Creek wastewater main trunkline not to exceed $175,000. Resolution No. 21-32

[5.I. Authorize Town Manager to contract with Plummer Associates for a route study of Denton Creek wastewater main trunkline not to exceed $175,000. Resolution No. 21-32]

THIS EVENING ACTION ITEM. I. AUTHORIZING THE TOWN MANAGER TO CONTRACT WITH PLUMBER ASSOCIATES FOR ROUTE STUDY OF DENTON CREEK WASTEWATER MAIN TRUNK LINE NOT TO EXCEED $175,000 AND MR CORN OUTLINE THE SECTION THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS EVENING. AS WELL AS THE CONSIDERATION FOR SELECTION OF PLUMBER ASSOCIATES. COULD YOU GIVE US AN OVERVIEW, MR CORN? YES, THANK YOU. MAYOR COUNCIL. THIS WILL TAKE THE WE'RE GOING FROM THE. THE END OF THE LINE THE END OF THE LINE WILL BE THE T. R A REGIONAL PLANT IN ROANOKE. IT'S UH IT'S RIGHT OFF 3 77. IT'S WHERE GRAND BRANCH THE HARVEST IN CANYON FALLS, WHO WERE. FLOWS DOWN TO IT'LL FOLLOW DENTON CREEK AND GO ACROSS 35 W AND TIE INTO OUR PLANNED WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT. THAT'S PART OF THE. CATHERINE BRANCH PROJECT AND IMPROVEMENTS. THIS IS JUST THE INITIAL PHASE. THIS IS THE ROUTE STUDY. THIS IS TO DETERMINE THE BEST ROUTE FOR THAT AND POSSIBLY EVEN MULTIPLE ROUTES AND THEN GO THROUGH A PROCESS OF. UNDERSTANDING THE RAMIFICATIONS OF THAT ROUTE. UM. WE HAD INITIALLY, UH, INTENDED TO USE THE SERIES 2021 C E O S.

BUT WE HAVE AVAILABLE SEWER IMPACT FEES, WHICH IS THE APPROPRIATE USE OF THESE FUNDS.

FOR THIS PROJECT WE'VE SELECTED, UM. CLICK PLUMBER ASSOCIATES. PLUMBER HAS EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE DESIGNING FOR THE TRAINEE RIVER AUTHORITY AND SPIT SPECIFICALLY THIS, UH, SYSTEM. THEY ALSO HAVE EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE WITH THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS, WHICH THIS LINE WOULD TRAVERSE QUITE A BIT OF THAT PROPERTY. SO THOSE WERE TWO KEY ISSUES WE KNEW WERE COMING UP. THAT WE WANTED TO HAVE EXPERTISE IN THIS. IN FACT, THE FROM THE T R A PLAN UP TO 3 77. ACTUALLY, THE OLD 3 77 ROAD BED, WHICH IS. A LITTLE EAST OF THE CURRENT 3 77, HIS WHERE THEY INSTALLED A LINE 40 R A IN THE CORPS OF ENGINEER LAND, SO THEY HAVE ACTUAL. EXPERIENCE DOING A VERY SIMILAR PROJECT. UH, RECENTLY. IN THE IN THE UNDER THE SAME CONDITIONS UNDER THE SAME DIFFICULTIES, SOMETIMES WORKING WITH THE CORPS OF ENGINEER UM AND THEIR RELATIONSHIP, THEIR POSITIVE RELATIONSHIP WITH TIARA, SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE RECOMMENDING THIS FIRM. I HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM PLUMBER ASSOCIATES. ADRIAN DONGLE, WHO'S AVAILABLE TO ANSWERING QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ALSO, BUT I'M READY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.

COUNSELING YOUR FLOOR. HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS YOU'VE GOT MINE. UM WHO RECOMMENDED THEM. UH STAFF STAFF, OKAY. AND UM, WE HAD WE HAD TALKED TO OTHER FIRMS AND CAME TO CONCLUSION TO RECOMMEND PLUMBER TO THE COUNCIL. ASSUME BEEN WAS INVOLVED IN THAT PROCESS. NO BECAUSE BEN WAS ONE OF THE FIRMS WE WERE CONSIDERING. YOU HEAR THAT? THAT MEANS THAT WE'RE GOING TO PAY. ALL OF IT. IT WANTS PRIOR TO. I BELIEVE THERE'S UH TWO OR THREE, UM MM. COMPENSATION. PAGE 99. UNDER PAYMENT TERMS. SO IF YOU'LL GO TO EXHIBIT B,

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YOU'VE GOT THESE THREE ACTIVITIES SO THEY'LL BE PAID AT THE END OF EACH OF THOSE ACTIVITIES. IT'LL BE LUMP SUM. BUT IT WILL BE. YES. YES, MA'AM. CORRECT. WHAT'S THE BEGINNING OF THIS PROJECT IS THAT THE COLIN SQUARE. NO, UM. FROM THE WAY IT FLOWS IT. IT'LL IT'LL START AT OUR PLANNED WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT. THAT HALF IS CURRENTLY DESIGNING AND GETTING PERMISSION FROM T. C. Q. TO BUILD THAT PLANETS. THAT WAS PART OF THAT. CATHERINE BRANCH PROJECT. IT'LL FLOW. UH UNDER 35 INTO THE DIDN'T CREAK THE MAIN, UH, MAIN RIVERBED OF DIDN'T CREAK AS IT GOES UNDER 35 W. ALL THE WAY TO THE RONA PLANT, THE TIARA RONALD PLANT THAT WILL BE THE ROUTE. BUT THERE COULD BE MULTIPLE SCENARIOS JUST DEPENDING ON TOPOGRAPHY, DEATH WHAT THE CORE NEEDS OR WANTS. HOW MUCH OF THE LINE IS THE SORT OF REASONABLE OR THE SHARED PORTION OF THIS 9000 SOME SCHOOLS, FEET LINEAR FEET? HOW MUCH OF THAT IS ROUGHLY THE PART WHERE IT. ESSENTIALLY FROM THE JUNCTION POINT WHERE IT'LL TAKE THE FLOWS FROM PECAN SQUARE AND THE OTHER LINES. UM. PROBABLY 1985 TO 90% OF OKAY? YEAH. SO THIS WILL HELP US UNDERSTAND THAT PROPORTIONALITY? UH WE'RE LOOKING AT NOW. THE TOWN SUPPORTING THE MAIN BRANCH, AND THEN WE CAN SQUARE SUPPORTING THE MAJORITY OF THAT TIME OF THAT FORK THAT GOES UP THAT WAY. IN THE IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. THEY DON'T CONTRIBUTE UNTIL THEY'RE LIKE 90% BUILT OUT SO. THAT'S THAT'S A WAYS BUT WELL PROPORTION OUT THIS LINE IN KIND OF. KEEP THAT IN THE BANK OR KEEP THAT AMOUNT AND THEN WE'LL PROPORTION OUT THEIR LINE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT. THEIR COSTS ARE AND WE'LL NET THOSE OUT, SO WE'LL KEEP TRACK OF THOSE PROPORTIONS AND IT WON'T REALLY BE CAUSE IT WILL BE PERCENTAGES. SO WHEN WE START THAT TIME FOR PECAN SQUARE. IT'LL BE. IT'LL BE A PERCENTAGE AT CURRENT PRICES. JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY THEIR PROPORTION OR PROPORTIONALITY WITH REGARD TO THIS IS THAT FIGURED BY VOLUME OR BY LINEAR FEET, VOLUME. OKAY, FLOWS, OKAY? ALL RIGHT COUNSELORS FURTHER QUESTIONS. COULD YOU WEIGH IN MR CORN, SO I BELIEVE THERE'S SOME CALCULUS THERE AS WELL THAT WE HAVE TO 40. SORRY. THAT'S RIGHT. BLOSSOM I IT'S PRETTY PROUD. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT, YOU'RE THROWING ME OFF MR CORN COUNT THE ASSISTANCE OF THE FIRST TIME, PROBABLY. I BELIEVE THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A CALCULUS INVOLVED WITH REGARD TO THE SELECTION. UM WHEN IT COMES TO WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK WE DO THROUGH WITH HALF. SO THIS IS A NO MEANS A POOR REFLECTION ON HALF WE HAVE THEIR PLATE FULL. THEY WOULD.

THEY WOULD GLADLY TAKE ON THIS PROJECT AS WELL. BUT UH, I NEED THIS PROJECT TO GO AT THE SAME TIME AS THEIR PROJECT THEY'RE DOING. THEY'RE OVER THERE NOT DESIGNING, BUT THEY'RE OVERSEEING THE DESIGN OF THE OF THE CATHERINE BRANCH. PHASE ONE THEY ARE DESIGNING AND THEY DID THE REST STUDY AND NOW THEY'RE IN DESIGN PHASE TO TAKE IT FROM PHASE ONE ALL THE WAY ACROSS 1 56. AND WE'VE GOT WE'VE GOT FLORENCE. WE'VE GOT FOUGHT ROAD PROJECTS. UH, WE. WE WE'VE GOT.

I WOULD JUST AS A AS A PHILOSOPHY AND AS, UH, MY MANAGEMENT STYLE. WE PRIMARILY USE HALF BUT WE DO NEED TO. CONTINUE TO HAVE RELATIONSHIPS WITH OTHER ENGINEERING FIRMS, UH, IN THE EVENT. SOMETHING HAPPENS WITH HALF OR IN THIS CASE WHEN THEY HAVE THEIR PLATE FULL. BUT AGAIN, THIS IS NO REFLECTION ON HALF IN THIS, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS THEIR INTENTION. BUT. I DIDN'T WANT TO SAY THAT. I APPRECIATE YOU ASKING A QUESTION TRIGGERED MY RESPONSE. THAT'S THAT'S GOOD, UM, COUNCIL IN WHAT HAS BEEN SHARED WITH ME IS THAT DUE TO THE SPECIFICS OF THIS PROJECT. IT MADE SENSE TO BRING IN A DIFFERENT FIRM AT THIS POINT, UM, BASED ON THE REASONS, MR ACCORDING TO SLADE OUT, BUT THIS WAS THIS WAS KIND OF EASY ONE WHERE IT REALLY FIT. IT WASN'T JUST, YOU KNOW, DIVERSIFYING. FOR THE PURPOSE OF DIVERSIFYING. THIS ONE HAD SPECIFIC REASONS WHY THIS WOULD BE PROBABLY A GOOD REASON TO BRING IN A DIFFERENT FIRM WHO HAS EXPERTISE IN THIS AREA. THAT'S ALL. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR, UM FOR PLUMBER ASSOCIATES? ALL RIGHT. I'LL TAKE YOUR MOTIONS, THEN. MOTION

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TO APPROVE. ALL RIGHT WE HAVE A MOTION FROM AIRPORTS IN MONTINI IN A SECOND BY COUNCIL, BOYER.

ALRIGHT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION COUNCILLORS? ALRIGHT, VOTING IS OPEN. ALL RIGHT. UNANIMOUS EXCEPT FOR ONE ABSENT. VERY GOOD. OUR CANCERS. WE HAD SPOKEN. LAST TIME I GOT A

[5.J. Discussion and action on Resolution No. 21-33 Revising the Northlake Employee Handbook to add a Section to Define Mental Health Policy for Peace Officers Resolution No. 21-33]

BRIEFING ON A MENTAL HEALTH POLICY FOR OUR OFFICERS. AND WE NOW HAVE A RESOLUTION FOR YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TO ENACT THAT HEALTH POLICY AND RESOLUTION NUMBER 21-33. YOUR CONSIDERATION. COUNSELORS DISCUSSION QUESTIONS. I DID GET SOME FOLLOW UP INFORMATION. I JUST GOT IT FROM OUR ADVISOR, UH, WE CAN ACTUALLY OFFER A FIVE DAY EMPLOYMENT EMPLOYEE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM. FOR $2000 THEY UP TO FIVE VISITS FOR EMPLOYEE. THAT'S UP TO 100 EMPLOYEES. IT'S $2000 ANNUALLY TOTAL. FOR THIS PROGRAM. SO UH, WE'RE WE'RE GOING. TO BASED ON COUNCIL INPUT WHERE WE HAVE THE ABILITY FOR $2000 TO OPEN THIS UP TO ALL EMPLOYEES, AND IT'S PER EVENT, SO IF THERE'S A HEALTH REGULATED PROBLEM. THEY NEED HELP ON AND THEN. IT MAY BE HAS A MARITAL PROBLEM. THAT WOULD BE A SEPARATE EVENT WITH FIVE DAYS BUT. 2000 COVERS UP TO 100 EMPLOYEES. THAT'S ALL IN COST ANNUALLY. AND IT WOULD ALSO OBVIOUSLY COVER ARE PEACE OFFICERS. THAT'S EXCELLENT NEWS BECAUSE A LOT OF COMPANIES HAVE PROGRAMS LIKE THAT. AND THE FIND SOMETHING LIKE THAT, FOR OUR EMPLOYEES IS REALLY GOOD. FIND IT'S NOT USED OFTEN, BUT IT'S A PRETTY BIG COST SAVINGS TO THE EMPLOYEES. THANK YOU. ABSOLUTELY AND IT THE PEACE OFFICERS WILL HAVE EXAMINED EXTRA PROTECTIONS FOR AN ANONYMITY. BUT WE WANT TO PRESERVE THAT AS WELL. I HAD A. HAD A GOOD FRIEND THAT HAD TOOK HIS LIFE. HE'S IN THE MUNICIPAL EXPERIENCE. SO YEAH, I'M VERY AWARE OF THAT. AND, UH BUT. GETTING HELP IS WHAT THE BIGGEST BATTLE IS REACHING OUT TO GET HELP, SO I'M VERY, VERY EXCITED. BRING US FORWARD. UM, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THE LEGISLATURE. BROUGHT THIS FORWARD, BUT AND WE DID HAVE IT. WE DID HAVE A SMALLER E A P PROGRAM, BUT THIS WILL BE MORE ROBUST AND IT RELATIVELY ECONOMICAL PRICE. COUNSELORS ANYTHING FURTHER. HOW CLOSE ARE WE TO 100 EMPLOYEES? THE BUDGET YOU APPROVED IN AUGUST HAS 63 FUNDED POSITIONS. SO 37 BREATH. THAT SOUNDS LIKE 37. OKAY THE REASON I ASK BECAUSE I WAS THINKING ABOUT IF WE CAN DO IT UP TO 100 PEOPLE AND IF WE WERE CLOSE TO 100. I WOULDN'T WANT US TO ALL OF A SUDDEN HAVE TO KICK SOMEBODY OFF OR SOMETHING.

VERY TRUE. SO WITH THE INITIATION OF THIS EVERY TIME WE RENEW AND WE GO THROUGH OUR BUDGET PROCESS THERE MIGHT BE ONCE WE GET OVER 100 THEIR MIND. IT MIGHT GO TO 2500 OR 3000 OR SOMETHING, BUT WILL INCLUDE THAT AS PART OF THE BUDGET. AND AGAIN THAT'S BASED ON OUR BUDGETS RELATIVELY DOMINANT COST, BUT WE WOULDN'T. WE WOULDN'T GET 201 UNTIL THAT GUY OR GAL THAT. THEY CAN'T GET ANY HELP. WE'D PLAN ACCORDINGLY. OKAY, THANKS. BETTER QUESTION IF AN EMPLOYEE FEEL STRONGLY ENOUGH IF THEY NEED TO TAKE THIS LEAVE, SHOULD WE NOT THEN FOLLOW UP WITH SOME SORT OF ASSESSMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO COME BACK TO WORK? I MEAN, WE HAVE OFFICERS CARRYING GUNS AND IF THEY'VE SEEN A TRAUMATIC EXPERIENCE A TRAUMATIC EVENT. DO THEY NOT THEN NEED TO BE EVALUATED ANONYMOUSLY? OF COURSE, UM, FOR FITNESS TO COME BACK. AH I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT RETURN TO WORK, BUT I BELIEVE IT'S PART OF THE POLICY THEY WILL GET. THEY WILL GET HELP THROUGH A NUMBER OF PROFESSIONAL SERVICES SO WE WOULD LOOK TO THE COUNSELOR TO HELP US DETERMINE. WHETHER THEY'RE ABLE TO COME BACK. BUT AS FAR AS, UH AN INDEPENDENT. MM ASSESSMENT. UH, I WILL. I WILL RESEARCH THAT. I JUST FEEL LIKE IF SOMEONE FEELS STRONGLY ENOUGH ABOUT TAKING THE LEAVE, THEN ARE THEY EQUIPPED THEM TO SAY OKAY, I'M OKAY. I CAN COME BACK INTO, YOU KNOW, INTO WORK AND CARRY MY GUN AND UM THAT SORT OF THING. MHM. THERE THERE. THERE IS REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE A RELEASE FROM THE DOCTOR THAT THEY ARE THE COUNCIL THAT THEY SEE. AND WE ALSO HAVE FOR

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THE POLICE OFFICER. WE HAVE A FIT FOR DUTY PLAN. SO IF WE FEEL LIKE OKAY, THERE'S STILL SOMETHING GOING ON. WE CAN HAVE THEM EVALUATED A SECOND TIME AND SAY, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE SOME MORE TIME OFF UNTIL WE KNOW YOU'RE READY TO GET BACK. THANK YOU, CHIEF.

ANYTHING FURTHER COUNSELORS. ALL RIGHT, YOUR CONSIDERATION. I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILLOR SESSIONS. KIND OF A SECOND THROWN. MAYOR PRO TEM MONTINI ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALRIGHT, LET'S OPEN THE BUILDING. ALRIGHT, UNANIMOUS SANDS ONE ABSENT. ALRIGHT ITEM

[5.K. Discussion and action on an Interlocal Cooperation Agreement with Draper (Corral City) for Police Services]

K DISCUSSION ACTION ON INTER LOCAL COOPERATION AGREEMENT WITH DRAPER ACROSS CITY FOR POLICE SERVICES. THIS IS THE AREA NEXT TIME 35 407, WHERE THE PARADISE GAS STATION AND THE MOBILE HOME PARK IS. SO WE HAVE IN THE PAST. UM WE'VE SUPPORTED THEM VIA, UM, NO CHARGE. DUE TO REGIONAL COOPERATION. BUT FOR THE LAST COUPLE YEARS WE'VE HAD A CONTRACT IN WHICH THEY PAY FOR SERVICES. AND SO WHAT WE HAVE HERE THIS EVENING IS A COOPERATION AGREEMENT. FOR THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE WOULD BE ASKING FROM THEM TO CONTRACT FOR POLICE SERVICES, WHICH WE WOULD MOST LIKELY PROVIDE DUE TO PROXIMITY ANYWAY, SO THAT IS THE ITEM UNDER DISCUSSION. MR CORN. DO YOU HAVE A SUMMARY OR CHIEF? DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO OUTLINED FOR US. ELENA AND TEETH FOR QUESTIONS, BUT AS YOU STATED DUE TO, UM, MUTUAL AID, UH, THIS THIS SERVICE WAS PREVIOUSLY HANDLED BY THE TOWN OF NORTH LAKE POLICE DEPARTMENT. BUT BECAUSE OF MUTUAL AID, WE WERE TYPICALLY THE FIRST RESPONDERS MAJORITY OF THE TIME, SO WE APPROACHED CORRAL CITY THAT BECAME DRAPER. I THINK IT'S PRACTICAL CITY AGAIN ABOUT US. PROVIDING THAT SERVICE BECAUSE WE WERE USUALLY THEY'RE THE FIRST PLACE SO.

IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WERE ALREADY DOING IT BY VIRTUE OF MUTUAL AID, BUT NOW WE'RE BEING COMPENSATED FOR IT. I THINK THE MAYOR AND I HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT THEIR TOTAL PROPERTY TAX.

UH, REVENUE WAS. MAYBE LIKE 20,000. SO THIS IS THIS IS ACTUALLY A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT PART OF THEIR BUDGET. AND I THINK THE MAYOR DID SOME. BED NAP CALCULATIONS AND HATE IT AND, UH, IT'S REALLY PROPORTIONAL TO WHAT WE SPEND ON POLICE SERVICES RELATIVE TO THEIR TAX BASE AND THEIR REVENUE SOURCES. UH WE FEEL LIKE IT'S A IT'S A FAIR WAY TO DO THIS, IF ANYTHING, CHANGES WITH FEROCITY AND CAMP, A NEW DEVELOPMENT, WE'D OBVIOUSLY RENEGOTIATE THE DEAL AND HAVE IT BE MORE APPROPRIATE TO WHAT THERE. BUT. BASED AT THEIR CURRENT AS YOU DESCRIBED THE STORE AND THE HARVEY PARK. IT'S UNFAIR. IT'S VERY, UM, AGREEMENT. CAN YOU GIVE US MAYBE THE CHIEF CAN ANSWER THIS BUT NUMBER OF CALLS. OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS. WE'VE AVERAGED ABOUT EIGHT CALLS FOR MONTHS. BIG HOLES A MONTH A MONTH, OKAY? MAY I ASK HOW YOU HOW YOU ANSWER THOSE CALLS? SAY, IF YOU'VE GOT A NORTH LAKE RESIDENT CALLING AND SOMEONE FROM THE TRIAGE CALLS, DO YOU? HOW DO YOU ANSWER THEM? AND HOW DO YOU PROPORTION OF THOSE SERVICES? IT DEPENDS ON THE PRIORITY OF THE CALL IF IT'S IF THERE'S AN ASSAULT GOING ON IN NORTH LAKE. WE'RE GOING TO RESPOND TO THAT BEFORE WE WOULD AN ALARM CALL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN CAROL CITY. CORRECT. I FORGOT TO MENTION. THIS IS ALSO, UH, MUNICIPAL COURT SERVICES AS WELL. BUT WE CHARGE OUR FEES AND SO THAT MORE THAN COVERS AFTER WE GIVE THE STATE THERE 50% OF THE FEES SO THAT THAT THAT. COVERS THOSE COSTS TO PROVIDE COURT SERVICES, AND IT'S VERY NOMINAL. ALSO. DO YOU KNOW HAPPENING OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD WHAT WE CHARGED LAST YEAR. COURT SERVICES FOR THIS CONTRACT. SEND HIM OUT SOME OF THEM. YEAH. TWO OF THEM. OUR COUNSELORS FURTHER QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. I'LL ENTERTAIN YOUR MOTIONS. AND YOU'RE THERE. COUNCILOR GANZ, UH, MADE THE MOTION AND COUNSELOR BOYER SECONDS ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION COUNCILLORS. ALL RIGHT. LET'S HOPE IN THE VOTING. ALRIGHT, UNANIMOUS. ALRIGHT ITEM L CONSIDER FOR APPROVAL AND ORDINANCE AMENDING THE FEE

[5.L. Consider for approval an ordinance amending the Fee Schedule to amend “Building and Construction” fees for residential building permits Ordinance No. 21-0909]

SCHEDULE TO MEND BUILDING AND CONSTRUCTION FEES FOR RESIDENTIAL BUILDING PERMITS OR

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DECEMBER 21-909. WE HAVE SOME. WE NEED TO BRING OUR FEE SCHEDULE IN LINE WITH STATE LAW. AND SO THE PRINCIPAL CHANGE HERE IS CHANGING FROM A COUPLE OF VALUE BASED CALCULATIONS TO SQUARE FOOTAGE BASED, WHICH IS IN KEEPING WITH THE STATE LAW. MR CORN. CAN YOU SUMMARIZE THAT? THAT WAS A GREAT SUMMARY. HERE'S A TABLE KIND OF WHAT IS CHANGING, UM.

THE CONCERN IS MULTIFAMILY. WE DIDN'T HAVE A LEAD. FEES THAT MEANT THE LEGISLATION. BUT WE HAVEN'T APPROVED ANY APARTMENTS IN THAT TIME PERIOD. SO, UH AND THEY MAY OR MAY NOT COME UP, BUT THIS WOULD MAKE US A LEGAL STATE LAW SO. EVEN THOUGH IT'S IN 2019. THERE'S BEEN NO BUILDING PERMIT FEES THAT WERE USED VALUE. THEY WERE ALL SQUARE FOOTAGE AND THEY NATHAN'S ARE AVAILABLE. ALSO TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON KIND OF NUMBERS AND SO FORTH. ALL RIGHT. COUNSELORS, QUESTIONS DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM. JUST CURIOUS IF IT. IF WE TARGETED TO HIT THE SAME VALUE, OR IF IT'S A LITTLE HIGHER OR LOWER, JUST. ABOUT THIS. IT'S A TARGETED HIT ABOUT THE SAME VALUE WOULD GET. IN REVIEWING THESE FEES AND THE CHARGES AND THINGS I HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS NUMBER ONE. ON MONDAY. ELLIS MOWING MY FRONT GATE AND PASTURE AND I HAD A CITIZEN. STOP AND ASK ME ABOUT WHY NORTHLAKE CHARGES ALL THESE THESE WHILE THEY'RE PENALIZED FOR WANTING TO BUILD A 5000 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE ALL OF THESE THINGS. AND SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE STAY IN LINE WITH JUST WHAT'S REQUIRED OF US BY STATE LAW. BUT NOT GO OVER THAT, FOR INSTANCE, WHAT DO WE DO TO CHARGE SOMEONE? $100 PLAN REVIEW? BECAUSE IF I'M GOING TO HIRE A LICENSED ARCHITECT TO DESIGN MY HOME THAT PERSON HAS GONE THROUGH. FIVE YEARS OF EDUCATION AND ACCREDITED UNIVERSITY. THEY WORKED FOR AT LEAST THREE YEARS UNDER LICENSED PRACTITIONER, AND THEN THEY HAVE SET FOR A SEVEN PART ARCHITECTURAL EXAM. OVER MULTIPLE YEARS, SO I WOULD THINK THAT IF WE COULD PUT SOME OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS IN PLACE, THEN WE COULD TRUST THIS PROCESS A LITTLE BIT BETTER, RATHER THAN CHARGING THEM ON TOP OF THE FACT THAT THEY PAID AN ARCHITECT TO DROP THEIR PLANS. STRUCTURAL ENGINEERS, FOUNDATION ENGINEERS FRAMING ENGINEERS, THAT SORT OF THING.

SO WHAT IS THIS? UM, I'M NOT. I'LL LET NATHAN ANSWER, BUT I THINK THIS IS MORE. THE CONSTRUCTION TRADES, PLUMBING, ELECTRICAL, UH, NOT NECESSARILY THE ARCHITECTURAL PLANS. THERE ARE THERE ARE SOME STRUCTURAL COMPONENTS. BUT THIS IS THIS IS ALL THE TRADES. UM, AS PART OF THIS. YEAH IT'S ALL OF THOSE. AND WE CONTRACT WITH SAFE BUILT TO DO THAT REVIEW AND TO ENSURE THAT THEIR MEETING OUR CODES, BELIEVE IT OR NOT. WE HAVE HAD SOME ARCHITECTS THAT HAVE ARGUED THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO BY OUR CODES OR THEY SLIPPED THINGS THROUGH THAT. DON'T.

MEET OUR PARTICULAR CODE THAT MAY MEET MEET OTHERS. SO THAT'S THAT'S WHY THESE NEED TO BE REVIEWED. WE ALSO GO THROUGH AN IN HOUSE STAFF REVIEW TO MAKE SURE THAT IT MEETS ZONING AS WELL. ANY ZONING AND DESIGN REQUIREMENTS. SO THE FEE IS ACTUALLY FOR AN OUTSIDE FIRM TO REVIEW. AH PARTIALLY AND FOR IN HOUSE STAFF AS WELL. OKAY SO HOW DOES IT COMPARE MR CORN? AS FAR AS RECOUPING THE COST? IS THIS A PROFIT MAKER IS THIS COVER COSTS THERE IS JUST A LOST LEADER. HOW DOES THIS HOW DOES THIS BE IN TOTAL REPRESENT FOR THE PLAN REVIEW FEE. IT'S UH. IT JUST COVERS THE COST. PRETTY MUCH. WE'RE NOT GETTING MUCH EXTRA FROM THAT. BUT AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE DURING THE MINI BUDGET MEETINGS WE'VE HAD, BUT THE DEVELOPMENT FEES AND THIS THIS WOULD BE CONSIDERED. PART OF THAT HELPS PAY FOR STAFF HELPS KIND OF.

PREPARE FOR THAT ULTIMATE PROPERTY TAXES WILL COME ONLINE. SO WE'VE TALKED ABOUT HOW THESE DEVELOPMENT FEES ARE REPLACED BY PROPERTY TAX VALUE, BUT IT HELPS US WITH WITH STAFF REVIEW AND STAFF HANDLING OF THESE PROCESSES. IT HELPS US WITH. THE. THE OUTSOURCING OF THIS REVIEW, BUT ALSO PROVIDES US A LITTLE BIT OF CUSHION AS WELL, PROVIDING IMMEDIATELY, UH POLICE SERVICES AND PUBLIC PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE INSPECTION IMMEDIATELY, SO.

WE'RE NOT. WE'RE NOT MAKING A PROFIT OFF THIS. WE'RE WE'RE COVERING OUR OWN AND PREPARING AS THAT. BECAUSE THESE FEES ARE ALL ONE TIME PER PROJECT, AND THEY GET REPLACED OVER TIME BY PROPERTY TAX. UH, REVENUE. ARE WE REQUIRED TO DO THESE INSPECTIONS? ABSOLUTELY OKAY.

AND HOW DO WE COMPARE TO OTHER MUNICIPALITIES WHEN IT COMES TO OUR FEE STRUCTURE? UH LAST WE

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CHECKED WERE WERE IN LINE WITH MOST OTHER CITIES IN THE AREA ACTUALLY CAME IN PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT UNDER SUN AS FAR AS JUST RESIDENTIAL PERMIT FEES. THAT WAS MY IMPRESSION THAT WHERE OUR FEES ARE IN LINE, BUT PROBABLY LESS THAN JUST JUST A LITTLE BIT UNDER THE AVERAGE, PROBABLY, AND I THINK THAT'S BECAUSE WE DON'T HIRE ULTIMATELY AS MANY STAFF AS THOSE TOWNS. ETCETERA, AND WE ARE ABLE TO REALIZE SOME COST SAVINGS THROUGH CONTRACTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO WITH THAT, I'M NOT SURE. WHERE CITIZENS GET THE IDEA THAT WE'RE OVERCHARGING FOR THIS STUFF, BUT IN MY EXPERIENCE, IT'S BEEN THE EXACT OPPOSITE THAT WERE VERY AFFORDABLE. WE DO HAVE SOME FEES THAT ARE A LITTLE ON THE HIGHER SIDE, BUT THEY'RE NOT. PERMIT RELATED. SOME OF THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT TYPE FEES ARE PROBABLY A LITTLE MORE ON THE HIGHER SIDE IMPACT FEES ON THE HIGHER SIDE BECAUSE WE HAVE. UH SO MANY NEEDS, AND THEY AND GROSS TO YOUNG SYSTEM TO BUILD FOR SO. AND IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE MATH RIGHT AND SAYS PLANE REVIEW $100 ON A 5000 SQUARE FOOT HOME IS THAT POSSIBLE TO BUILD A 5000 SQUARE FOOT HOME IN THE TOWN OF NORTH LAKE FOR LESS THAN A MILLION DOLLARS, PROBABLY AT THIS POINT. THAT'S A PRETTY SMALL PERCENTAGE OF WHAT THAT HOUND COSTS AND THEN EVEN THE PERMANENT FEE. THAT'S $4000 OF A MILLION DOLLAR HOME. THAT'S A PRETTY SMALL FRACTION OF WHAT THAT PERSON IS ABOUT TO BE. PREPARED TO SPEND ON THEIR HOME SO. FURTHER DISCUSSION LITTLE DIFFERENTLY. YOU LOOK AT IT AS WHAT THE MARKET WILL BEAR. I LOOK AT IT. AS WHAT SHOULD WE HAVE TO PAY TO BUILD OUR HOMES? UM, I THINK IT'S GETTING. COST PROHIBITIVE FOR SOME PEOPLE. I MEAN, THAT'S ANOTHER $4000 ON TOP OF. ARCHITECTURE FEES FOR A HOUSE THAT SIZE OR ROUGHLY BETWEEN 60 AND $100,000 FOR JUST THE ARCHITECTURE FEES. OKAY, THEN YOU PAY ON TOP OF THAT FOR YOUR PERMIT AND YOUR FEES AND EACH ONE OF YOUR A TRADES. SO IT'S JUST. IT JUST CHANGED OUR RESIDENTIAL FEES. SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE. IT'S PROBABLY BEEN 2025 YEARS THAT WHEN THESE WERE INITIALLY ADOPTED, SO WE'VE KEPT THESE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL FEES THE SAME. SO YOU'RE SAYING MAYBE WE SHOULD UPDATE THEM FOR INFLATION. UM.

I DIDN'T SAY THAT. I MEAN, ULTIMATELY, IF WE THINK ABOUT IT, RIGHT, WE'RE TALKING. THIS WAS IF THIS NUMBER WAS ADOPTED 20 YEARS AGO, AND WE HAVEN'T UPDATED IT AND WE CONSIDER IT TOO MUCH. I'M NOT ADVOCATING FOR THAT. I'M JUST. WHEN IT COMES TO FEES. MY PHILOSOPHY HAS ALWAYS BEEN THAT YOU COVER YOUR COSTS. IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE A PROFIT CENTER. UM WE NEED TO COVER FOR THE THINGS THAT ARE APPROPRIATE THAT ARE CONDITIONAL UPON THAT. IMPACT FEES THEY NEED TO COVER THE PROPORTION OF COST TO THE SYSTEM IN WHICH IT'S BUILT. WE ARE IN A RURAL AREA WHERE THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IS EXORBITANTLY EXPENSIVE AS WE JUST TALKED ABOUT WHEN IT COMES TO THE SEWER LINE. WE HAVE MILES OF SEWER LINE TO PUT IN THE GROUND, AND FOR THAT REASON. ANY NEW HOME THAT COMES ONTO THE SYSTEM SHOULD PAY THEIR PROPORTIONAL SHARE. AND THIS IS, YOU KNOW, BASED ON WHAT STAFF ARE TELLING ME THEIR ASSESSMENT IS THAT WE ARE, UH, DOING THE RIGHT THING BY BALANCING BETWEEN WHAT IS THE PROPORTIONAL SHARE. WHAT IS THE COST OF THE INSPECTION? TO DO THE REQUIRED STEPS. SO IF WE NEED, YOU KNOW IF WE WANT TO REDUCE FEES, WE NEED TO REDUCE SERVICE. SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO DOES THE SERVICE WE PROVIDE AS IT WARRANTED? AND THAT'S YOU KNOW, AN INTERESTING, YOU KNOW, ASSESSMENT COUNSELOR HARDIMAN TO THINK ABOUT. WELL IF THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN REVIEWED, ARE WE CATCHING THINGS? THAT WOULD BE MY QUESTION FOR STAFF, WHICH NATHAN ANSWERED A MINUTE AGO. I'VE SEEN A FEW FEW HOMES GOING UP AND THEY PUT HIM IN THE WRONG SPOT. AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE STAFF TO CATCH THOSE KIND OF THINGS. SO THAT'S ONE EXAMPLE I'VE SEEN PERSONALLY, I HAVEN'T SEEN THE THINGS THAT ARE OUTSOURCE PROVIDER IS CAUGHT. BUT IF YOU'RE TELLING ME WE'RE CATCHING THINGS, THEN THAT'S WHAT IT'S HERE FOR. AND AS LONG AS WE'RE COVERING THOSE COSTS, AND WE'RE NOT PUTTING THE COST OF THAT NEW HOME OR THAT NEW ADDITION ONTO THE COST OF THE EXISTING HOMEOWNERS, THEN WE'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING. WE HAD KIND OF AN ANNUAL REVIEW. WE DO TYPICALLY WITH OUR OUTSOURCE BUILDING, INSPECTOR. AND THEY GIVE US SOME. SOME SOME DATA POINTS, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE SEEING INCREASING AS THE NUMBER OF RE INSPECTIONS. WHAT'S HAPPENING IS THESE TRADES ARE.

JUST TRYING THINGS OUT AND WAITING FOR THE INSPECTOR TO COME IN AND KIND OF REDESIGN IT FOR THEM INSTEAD OF DOING IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME. SO WE ARE. WE MAY BRING BACK TO YOU, UH, RE INSPECTION FEE FOR THAT PURPOSE. IT'S NOT. IT'S NOT BAD RIGHT NOW, BUT IT IS A SIGN

[00:40:01]

THAT THEY ARE CATCHING THINGS. UH WE DON'T KNOW FOR SURE. IF IT'S JUST THEY'RE THEY'RE TRYING TO GET AWAY WITH STUFF. THEY'RE THEY'RE NOT DOING IT. COMPLETE AND KNOWING THAT THEY DIDN'T INSPECTORS BECAUSE THEY'RE SO DILIGENT. WE'LL CATCH IT, SO WE'RE STILL INVESTIGATING IT, BUT THAT'S AN EARLY INDICATION THAT IT'S THERE CATCHING STUFF. I'M LIKE, OH, QUICKLY. ONE MORE SO WE'RE STILL TALKING GOOD RIGHT HERE. IT'S $100 PLAN REVIEW FOR YOUR SINGLE FAMILY OR TO FAMILY RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION. THEN DO YOU COME BACK AND HAVE A SEPARATE. REVIEW FOR ANY OUTBUILDING THAT YOU WANT TO BUILD, ATTACHED OR DETACHED. IS THAT HOW THIS WORKS AT THE SAME PRICE FOR ANY OTHER BUILDING THAT YOU WANNA PUT ON YOUR PROPERTY? UH, YES, IF THEY'RE BUILT AT A SEPARATE TIME, IF THEY'RE BUILT ALTOGETHER, IT'S CONCLUDED IN THAT SAME FEE. BUT IF IT'S A BUILT IN THEIR TIME, THERE'S A THERE'S JUST A FLAT FEE FOR ACCESSORY BUILDINGS. $150, I THINK. SO IT DOESN'T FALL. THESE ARE JUST THE RESIDENTIAL. UH, RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS THAT ARE BEING ADJUSTED. YES. OKAY SO IT WOULDN'T FOLLOW THIS KNOW WHAT'S IN FRONT OF ME THAT SAYS THE FAMILY DETACHED AND ATTACHED IN TWO FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ACCESSORY STRUCTURE WOULDN'T GO BY THAT IT HAS A SEPARATE SCHEDULE. THIS.

SO YEAH. ACCESSORY BUILDINGS. IT'S UH IT'S $100 PLAN REVIEW FEE AND 100 AND $50. IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S CONSTRUCTED OF HIS PRE MANUFACTURED IS JUST A $50 PERMIT FEE. RECENTLY. YES. WAS AN EXAMPLE OF THE WE BLOWER THOSE USED TO BE BASED ON BASED ON VALUE AND WE WENT TO A FLAT FEE ON THOSE THAT LOWERED THE AMOUNT SUBSTANTIALLY. WHY DON'T WE CHARGE LESS FOR MULTI FAMILY WHEN YOU CONSIDER THAT MULTI FAMILY IS GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE MORE BATHROOMS FOR THIS MORE THAN. AND IT WOULD APPEAR TO ME THAT YOU'D HAVE TO WORK HARDER TO APPROVE ALL THAT. WELL AND MULTI FAMILY. IT'S A REPLICA OF SIMILAR UNITS OVER AND OVER. SO YOU KIND OF REVIEW THE BASE AND THEN JUST MAKE SURE THAT'S COVERED ACROSS ACROSS THAT FLOOR PLAN. SO IS IT CHEAPER TO OUTSOURCE THE MAJOR APARTMENT BUILDING FROM A SQUARE FOOTAGE STANDPOINT THAT IT WOULD BE FOR SINGLE FAMILY STRUCTURES? YES SO THERE'S SOME SCALE IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, SO IT'S CHEAPER TO REVIEW A LARGE SCALE PROJECTS, AND IT IS A SINGLE FAMILY STRUCTURE. ANYTHING FURTHER COUNSELORS. I'LL ENTERTAIN YOUR EMOTIONS. NO YOU'RE ALREADY JUMPED OUT THERE. OUR COUNSELOR, GANZ HAS MADE A MOTION SECONDED BY MAYOR PRO TEM MONTINI ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT. OPEN THE VOTING, PLEASE. ALRIGHT, UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. CONSIDER THE NOMINATION OF THE FIVE PEOPLE FOR THE COUNTY

[5.M. Consider the nomination of up to five (5) people for the Denton County Appraisal District Board of Directors (Resolution 21-34 if necessary)]

APPRAISAL DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS RESOLUTION 21-34, IF NECESSARY. HAVE A COUPLE OPTIONS HERE. ONE IS TO DO NOTHING. OUR NOMINATIONS TYPICALLY ARE JUST. BUT DON'T ACTUALLY GET ANY REAL VOTES TOWARDS BEING ON THE BOARD. THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS BASICALLY OVERWHELMED THE VOTING ON THIS, SO OUR CONTRIBUTION FROM A VOTE STANDPOINT IS VERY, VERY SMALL.

WE GET EIGHT VOTES OUT OF 5000 TOTAL. SO OBVIOUSLY ANYBODY WE PUT FORWARD IS PROBABLY NOT GOING TO MAKE IT ON THE BASIS OF OUR VOTES THAT SAID, WE CAN SEND UP BETWEEN ONE OR 0 TO 5 PEOPLE AS NOMINATION. THIS IS NOT THE VOTE. IT'S JUST A NOMINATION TO PUT IT ON THE BALLOT. SO IF WE WANT TO DO THIS, WE CAN. OTHERWISE WE DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING WITH THIS. UM AND WE CAN DO ONE OR TWO OR THREE OR FOUR OR FIVE PEOPLE. SO WHATEVER YOU WANT TO TAKE THE TIME TO DO TONIGHT, UM, BUT THIS WILL BE BROUGHT BACK FOR A VOTE. YOU'LL HAVE THE LIST OF NOMINEES AND THEN YOU CAN BE ABLE TO VOTE ON THOSE PUT OUR VOTES TOWARDS. ANY NOMINEES THAT MAKE THE BALLOT. SO DO YOU HAVE ANYBODY YOU WANT TO HEAD TO THE BALLOT OR DO WE WANT TO JUST MOVE ON? I'LL TAKE YOUR EMOTIONS. OCEAN. THE MOVE ON. THIS EMOTIONAL ACTION.

[00:45:07]

DOING WHAT WE NEED TO DO. IT AS TAKE NO ACTION. ALL RIGHT. THE MOTION TO TAKE NO ACTION A SECOND. GOOD. TAKE NO ACTION WAS TAKEN AWAY AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO CONSENT ALL RIGHT BY CONSENT. WE'LL MOVE FORWARD. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT DISCUSSION ACTION REGARDING CANCELLATION

[5.N. Discussion and action regarding cancellation of the September 23, 2021, Council Meeting]

THAT SEPTEMBER 23RD COUNCIL MEETING. UM WE GOT OUR HOMEWORK DONE EARLY THIS YEAR, UM ONE MEETING EARLY FOR BUDGET SEASON AND SO AT THIS POINT. WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER MEETING THIS MONTH. AND SO IT'S UP TO YOU. WE CAN. WE CAN COME BACK IF YOU WANT AND SEE WHAT'S SEE. WE HAVE TO DO BUT OTHERWISE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THE NIGHT OFF. SO YOUR MOTION. I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILLOR SESSIONS. YOU WERE QUICK ON THAT ONE. OKAY HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILLOR HARDIMAN ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS? ALL RIGHT. OPEN THE LOADING. IT SEEMS LIKE AN EASY ONE. ALL RIGHT, MR CORN. DID WE HAVE SOMETHING ELSE? YES UH, MARCY PITS FROM THE UNITED WAY

[2.B. Proclamation No. 21-4 United Way of Denton County (Part 2 of 2)]

IS HERE TO SAY A FEW WORDS. I LET HER KNOW THAT WE PASSED A PROCLAMATION EARLIER, BUT OKAY.

MERCY WELCOME. GLAD YOU COULD BE HERE. NO PROBLEMS THAT THAT I WAS. I AM LATE. BUT YES, ON BEHALF OF THE UNITED WAY OF DENTON COUNTY, AND OUR BOARD JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU AND THE WHOLE COUNCIL FOR JOINING US IN. RECOGNIZING SEPTEMBER'S LIVE UNITED MONTH. I THINK WE ALL LEARNED THE PAST 18 MONTHS. THE IMPORTANCE OF OUR. OUR COMMUNITY BOTH ON THE SMALL SCALE AND ON THE LARGER COUNTY SCALE OF WORKING TOGETHER AND SUPPORTING OUR NEIGHBORS. WHEN CRISIS HITS AND, UM WE COULDN'T DO WHAT WE DO WITHOUT THE SUPPORT OF MUNICIPALITIES LIKE NORTH LAKE AND ALL OF ALL OF THE COMMUNITY COMING TOGETHER. AND. GIVING A HAND UP TO NEIGHBORS AND NEEDS. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND AGAIN. I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT BEING HERE.

THAT'S RIGHT. YOU HEAR NOW? COUNSELOR CITY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MARCY? ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE. APPRECIATE IT. OUR COUNSELORS HAVE NO RECOMMENDATION FOR YOU TO CHANGE THE PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY DECLARED OVER A YEAR AGO NOW FOR ITEM. OH, AND SO UNLESS YOU OBJECT WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH CALLING THE

[6. Executive Session]

EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THIS EVENING. WE DO NOT HAVE ANY SCHEDULED, UM, ACTION ITEMS COMING OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION THIS EVENING AND SO FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE WEIGHT AND YOU CAN WAIT AROUND AND SEE IF WE COME UP WITH ANYTHING, BUT WE'RE NOT INTENDING TO HAVE ANY ACTION THIS EVENING. MIGHT BE A LITTLE WHILE IN THE BACK DISCUSSING THE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA, BUT AT THIS POINT UNDER SECTION 551071072. 087 WE'RE GOING TO RECONVENE OR CONVENED RATHER INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 6:18 P.M. AND IF YOU'RE NOT HERE WHEN WE GET BACK, I WAS VERY GOOD

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.

Sep 09, 2021 Town Council

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