[1. CALL TO ORDER]
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ARE A GOOD EVENING IS 5 30 PM THIS IS NORTH LAKE TOWN COUNCIL MEETING IS MARCH 24TH 2020 TO 5 30 PM LET'S GET STARTED. WE DO HAVE A SHORTER AGENDA THIS EVENING AND WE'LL TRY TO SEE IF WE CAN DO ABOUT GETTING THROUGH THAT. BUT AS ALWAYS WILL TAKE THE TIME. WE NEED TO DIVE INTO THE ITEM THAT WE NEED TO LET'S GET STARTED TONIGHT. DO WE HAVE AN INDICATION THIS EVENING? YES OH, YES, OF COURSE. WE'LL DOUBLE DUTY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. PASTOR PAUL DO GO AHEAD AND OPEN US UP FATHERS. I HATE VIOLENCE. AND WE ALSO KNOW ABOUT THE CHAOS AND OUR OWN LIVES. LORD AND WE PRAY THAT YOU ARE THE ONE WHO CONTROLS THE CHAOS. AND YOU DO THROUGH YOUR SON. OUR SAVIOR. JESUS WE GIVE THANKS FOR GOOD GOVERNMENT. AND FOR THESE SERVANTS HERE WHO SERVE IN LOVE AND SERVE THIS COMMUNITY. AND I PRAY FOR WISDOM UPON THEM IN THEIR DECISIONS THAT THEY WOULD ON THE SHOW. NO FAVOR. BUT THEY WOULD DO WHAT IS RIGHT. AND GIVE THEM THEIR BLESSING AND PROTECTION AND SERVING IN THIS WAY IN JESUS' NAME I MEN THANK YOU, SIR. LET'S STAND FOR THE PLEDGE IS. ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND PUBLIC RELIGIOUS STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD. INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
DOES THAT? TEXT ONE DAY UNDERGO. ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. ALRIGHT WE'RE GOING TO GET RIGHT INTO IT TONIGHT. I DIDN'T QUITE CALL THE ROLE WE HAVE, UH, SIX VOTING MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT . DR SESSIONS IS THAT PRESIDENT MOMENT HE'S IN THE PARKING LOT. ALRIGHT, THEN WE DO HAVE FULL FULL CORE IN THIS EVENING. THE DOCTORS IN THE BUILDING. VERY GOOD. WE'LL GET STARTED WITH OUR
[2.A. Briefing - Development Services Update]
DEVELOPMENT SERVICES UPDATE AT THIS POINT, SO, MISTER MISTER ED AND YOU HEAR? YES WALKS UP.ENTER OUR RETREAT THE COUNCIL WANTED UPDATES FROM EACH OF THE APARTMENTS OR WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE IN THIS SERIES, AND SO SINCE THEY HAD MISSED LAST MEETING. WE'RE GOING TO MAKE HIM DO ALMOST EVERY ITEM THIS MEETING AS AS AH VERY GOOD. GOOD TO SEE NATHAN GLAD THAT YOU'RE FEELING LITTLE BETTER. IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU BACK IN THE. WELL JUST SAY NEXT, ALRIGHT. ALL RIGHT, UM, HAPPY TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT AND THE WORK WE ARE DOING. YEAH. GOOD JOB, JOHN. ALRIGHT FIRST START OFF WITH THE CORE FUNCTIONS OF THE DEPARTMENT REALLY RECOVER PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING DEVELOPMENT RELATED. STARTING WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND TRYING TO BRING IN NEW DEVELOPMENT NEW BUSINESSES TO THE TOWN, SO THE PRIMARY FOCUS OF THAT IS BRINGING IN NEW BUSINESSES. RETAINING OUR BUSINESSES AND EXPANDING THEM AND BASICALLY JUST ENHANCING THE TAX BASE. WE ALSO PROVIDE STAFF SUPPORT TO OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION BOARDS.
UM NEXT. WE ALSO HANDLE PLANNING AND ZONING. THIS INCLUDES THE LONG RANGE PLANNING LIKE A COMPREHENSIVE PLANS. UM CURRENT PLANNING LIKE IMPLEMENTING THOSE PLANS, THE ZONING THE PLANTING THE ANNEXATION. AND WE ALSO PROVIDE STAFF SUPPORT TO THE PLAYING OF ZONING COMMISSION AND THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS. NEXT WE HANDLE THE BUILDING PROCESS, THE PERMITS AND INSPECTIONS AND ALL VARIETY OF PERMITS. THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THEM LISTED FROM BUILDING PERMITS ALL THE WAY TO HEALTH PERMITS. UM THE. WE HANDLE THE PERMITTING PROCESS . WE DO PLAN REVIEW AND THEN ONCE WE GET THE PERMIT, WE DO THE INSPECTIONS TO ENSURE THAT THEY COMPLY WITH THE REQUIREMENTS. THEN FINALLY, CODE COMPLIANCE ONCE EVERYTHING'S BUILT AND AH, OR EVEN WHILE IT'S IN THE PROCESS OF BEING BUILT, UM WE ENSURE THEIR MEETING OUR REQUIREMENTS. UH MAKE SURE THAT
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THEY'RE MEETING OUR ZONING CODE . UH WE HANDLE IN HOUSE REVIEW, PLAYING REVIEW AND INSPECTIONS FOR THINGS LIKE FENCES AND SIGNAGE. AND WE ALSO HANDLE CODE COMPLAINTS. UH, A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES OF THOSE ARE HIGH GRASS AND WEEDS AND TRASH AND DEBRIS. AND THEN ALSO PROVIDE ROUTINE PATROL TO MAKE SURE THAT UM THINGS ARE HANDLED, SUCH AS BANDIT SIGNS ARE REMOVED AND MAKE SURE THAT CONSTRUCTION SITES OR KEPT UP. THAT'S REALLY A BIG CODE COMPLIANCE ACTIVITY HERE, MUCH BIGGER THAN IN A TYPICAL TOWN. UM. OUR DEPARTMENT ALIGNS WITH WHAT WE DO ALIGNS WITH SEVERAL SEVERAL OF THE GOALS OF THE COUNCIL. THESE ARE KIND OF SOME OF THE PRIMARY ONES FROM HELPING BUILD A ROBUST COMMERCIAL SALES TAX BASE TO THINGS THAT ARE DEVELOPMENT ZONING RELATED TO CAPTURING, INCORPORATING TJ ANNEXATION OPPORTUNITIES, WHICH, FORTUNATELY WE HAVE A COUPLE OF THOSE ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT LATER ON. RIGHT NEXT. AH THIS IS A SLIDE I'M EXCITED ABOUT. WE'RE WE'VE GOT TO SIX POSITIONS IN OUR DEPARTMENT NOW NOW, OR WE'LL SOON HAVE SIX POSITIONS. AH! SO I'M THE DIRECTOR, OF COURSE, AND THEN ONE THING THAT I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IS WE HAVE A POSITION TO HANDLE EACH OF THE CORE FUNCTIONS NOW, SO I'M NOT HAVING THE TO HANDLE THAT DAY TO DAY. WORK AND TO PROVIDE THOSE CORE FUNCTIONS. HAVE SOME ASSISTANCE THERE. UM WE HAVE A NEW HIRE THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GRANTS ANALYST HELPING WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF HIRING A PLANNER AGAIN. WE HAVE TWO POSITIONS HANDLING PERMITS JUST BECAUSE OF THE ACTIVITY THAT WE'RE HAVING IN PERMITTING. AND THEN WE HAVE OUR CODE COMPLIANCE COORDINATOR THAT HANDLES THE CODE COMPLIANCE ACTIVITIES. WE ALSO USE CONSULTANTS AND SOME. SOME VARIOUS SERVICES THAT WE CONTRACT FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. WE DON'T NECESSARILY USE CONSULTANTS TO GO OUT AND WORK ON OUR BEHALF, BUT WE HAVE SOME SEVERAL SUBSCRIPTION SERVICES THAT ASSIST US WITH DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION. UH, COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE SITES, IMPACT DATA SOURCES A NEW ONE THAT WILL BE USING TO HELP US ANALYZE INCENTIVES AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING A GOOD RETURN ON OUR INVESTMENT. FOR PLANNING AND ZONING. WE CONTRACT WITH HALF ASSOCIATES WHO HANDLES OUR ENGINEERING DEVELOPMENT REVIEW. WE'VE ACTUALLY OUR MAIN REVIEWER FOR HALF IS HERE AT THE MEETING TONIGHT. WE ALSO USE CONSULTANTS AND WE DO SOME SPECIAL PLANNING PROJECTS AND LARGER PROJECTS SUCH AS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND THEN FOR PERMITS AND INSPECTIONS. WE CONTRACT WITH SAFE BUILT. THEY HANDLE ALL OF OUR PLAN, REVIEW AND INSPECTIONS FOR BUILDING CODE COMPLIANCE. THEY ALSO PROVIDE THROUGH THEIR CONTRACT PROVIDE A PROGRAM CALLED COMMUNITY CORE, WHICH WE ARE ABLE TO UTILIZE TO TRACK OUR PERMITS AND PLANNING AND CODE CASES. AND WE GET THAT FOR FREE AS AS PART OF OUR CONTRACT WITH THEM. AND THEN WE CONTRACT WITH BUREAU VERITAS TO HANDLE HEALTH PERMITS FOR PUBLIC POOLS AND FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS. UM. ANOTHER THING. I'M EXCITED ABOUT IT. WE HAVE NEW SPACE COMING SO THAT WILL BE ABLE TO HANDLE THESE NEW POSITIONS, 2000 SQUARE FEET OF SPACE IN THE BUILDING. JUST LITTLE BIT EAST OF HERE, UH, SHOULD BE READY NEXT MONTH, SO THE CONTRACTORS SAYING THAT HE'LL BE ABLE TO DELIVER IT. ON APRIL 1ST. I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN TRUST THAT VERY MUCH BEING APRIL FOOLS, BUT WE'LL SEE AND THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO START MOVING IN FURNITURE AND HOPEFULLY STAFF LATER IN APRIL. AND NOW, FINALLY , SOME ACTIVITY MEASURES FROM THE DEPARTMENT SO UM. RESIDENTIAL BUILDING PERMITS THAT'S KIND OF OUR BIGGEST VOLUME ACTIVITY AND YOU SEE, WE HAD A BIG SPIKE AND THE 2021 FISCAL YEAR. THIS YEAR YEAR TO DATE, OR ALMOST HALFWAY THROUGH THE FISCAL YEAR AND WE'RE QUITE A BIT LOWER PART OF THAT. A BIG PART OF THAT, I THINK IS THAT THE BUILDABLE LOTS. WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF BUILDABLE LOTS. SO THERE ARE SEVERAL PLANTS THAT ARE IN THE PROCESS OF JUST BEEN APPROVED OR WILL BE COMING UP PRETTY SOON, WHICH WILL ADD AH TO THE NUMBER OF BUILDING PERMITS THAT WILL BE BE POSSIBLE. AND I THINK THAT NUMBER WILL PICK UP AND MAYBE[00:10:02]
STILL, MAYBE LESS THIS YEAR, BUT WELL, THAT'LL PROBABLY JUMP BACK UP THERE CLOSER TO THE 2021 NUMBER THE FOLLOWING FISCAL YEAR. YOU ALSO NOTICE THE CERTIFICATES OF OCCUPANCY. THESE ARE ISSUED FOR ANY NEW BUSINESSES. THOSE UH THOSE ARE GOING UP AND WE EXPECT THAT TO CONTINUE TO HEAD UP. AND AS THIS YEAR PROGRESSES IN THE YEARS TO COME. SO BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. THANK YOU, NATHAN. APPRECIATE IT. APPRECIATE PUTTING THE DATA TOGETHER FOR US THE COUNCIL QUESTIONS FOR MR END TONIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WELL, I APPRECIATE YOU KEEPING THE DEPARTMENT ONGOING AND WE ARE PLEASED TO BE ABLE TO OFFER YOU KNOW A NEW SPACE, WHICH IS MODEST AND SORT OF OUR FOOTPRINT EXPANSION. BUT I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT WE HELD ON AS LONG AS WE COULD. BEFORE WE EXPAND OUR SPACE AND DO SO IN A WAY THAT I THINK ALLOWS US TO MAXIMIZE OUR SPACE AND UTILITY OF IT. UM I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF SEPARATING THE DEVELOPMENT OFFICE FROM OUR RESIDENTIAL FACE HERE AT TOWN HALL. I THINK THAT'S THAT'S A GOOD USE OF SPACE AND SEPARATION OF THE ROLES. DO YOU HAVE AS YOU LOOK AHEAD HERE AS YOU'RE GIVING US AN UPDATE. WHAT WHAT CONCERNS DO YOU SEE FOR THIS YEAR? AND WHAT? WHAT WHAT DO YOU WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING TO DO THIS YEAR? BESIDES GETTING LOOSE SPACE AND GET THESE POSITIONS FILLED OUT? I WOULD SAY, JUST KEEPING UP WITH THE VOLUME OF DEVELOPMENT AND AT THE SAME TIME AS BRINGING THESE NEW POSITIONS ALONG AND GETTING MOVED IN AND SETTLE IN. WE'RE ALSO STILL CONTINUING TO IMPLEMENT THE COMMUNITY CORE. PROGRAM THAT COMES WITH SAFE BUILT. WE'VE WERE FULLY IMPLEMENTED IT FOR BUILDING PERMITS, AND WE'RE STARTING TO USE IT NOW FOR PLANNING PROJECTS AS WELL. SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WILL REALLY HELP US WILL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE, UH, A LOT BETTER AND UP TO DATE ACTIVITY MEASURES THROUGH THAT, SO I'M EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO FULLY UTILIZE IT. SO, UM SO THE MOVE AND THE NEW POSITIONS ARE THE BIG ONES, OKAY? AND THAT WILL SERVE FOR OUR NEEDS FOR THIS YEAR. YES OKAY. VERY GOOD. OKAY UM, 2020, OBVIOUSLY 627 AND THEN THE NEXT YEAR 1131. DO YOU THINK THAT 6 27 WAS AFFECTED BY EVENTS OF 2020 AT ALL? AND THAT WE HADN'T AN ARTIFICIAL 11 31 THE NEXT YEAR. NO I THINK I THINK THAT'S JUST THE TRAJECTORY THAT WE'RE ON. I THINK THAT 2021 NUMBER AH, I THINK WELL. THAT WILL KIND OF BE A HIGH THAT WE'D PLATEAU IT. I DON'T SEE US GOING ABOVE THAT. BUT BUT I THINK I THINK WE COULD BE CLOSE TO THAT FOR THE NEXT FEW YEARS. OKAY? AND THEN OF THE POSITIONS THAT WE'RE ADDING ON ONE NOT GOVERNMENT IS GOOD AT GETTING BIGGER. IT'S NOT VERY GOOD AT GETTING SMALLER. IS THAT STUFF THAT ARE THOSE POSITIONS THAT WE SEE THAT WE NEED FOR THE FORESEEABLE MASSIVE GROWTH PHASE , AND THEN AT ONE POINT ANOTHER WE MIGHT ACTUALLY NEED LESS OF THEM BECAUSE WE HAVE LAST DEVELOPMENT AND WHAT'S THAT TIMELINE LOOK LIKE, I THINK. WELL I THINK WE WILL NEED MOST OF THEM. FOR QUITE A WHILE, UH, THERE MAY BE SOME POINT WHERE WE ONLY NEED ONE STAFF MEMBER FOR PERMITS OR NOT, BUT I THINK IT'LL BE A WHILE BEFORE WE GET TO THAT POINT. AND THEN AT THAT POINT, WE MIGHT NEED MORE FOR PLANNING SO WE COULD SHIFT SOMEBODY OVER OVER THERE BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT MORE. UM PLANNING EFFORT THAT'S INVOLVED WITH COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, WHICH WILL SEE MORE FOLLOW AS THE RESIDENTIAL COMES EXPENSE. THANKS SO. GOOD QUESTIONS AND ALSO THE FACT THAT WE CONTRACT FOR BUILDING INSPECTIONS HELPS KEEP US FROM HAVING TO HIRE A BUNCH OF STAFF THAT WE WOULD GET TO A POINT THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO LAY OFF OR SOMETHING SO THEY CAN KIND OF SKILL AS NEEDED. SOMETHING I WAS EXCITED ABOUT. IS THIS NEW ROLE THIS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COORDINATOR IS GOING TO BE PROACTIVE AND VISITING OUR EXISTING BUSINESSES. HEY WE DIDN'T HAVE TIME BECAUSE NATHAN AND I ARE VERY BUSY. BE THERE WASN'T A LOT OF BUSINESSES TO VISIT. SO THIS IS A BIG KIND OF A NEW ROLE FOR US, CHECKING UP ON HIM SEEING HOW THEY'RE DOING, KEEPING THAT RETENTION. UM AND AGAIN IT HASN'T BEEN AN ISSUE, BUT IT COULD BE AND WE WANT TO GET AHEAD OF IT. SO THAT WAS THE NEW EMPLOYEES WHEN SOMETHING WE DISCUSSED WITH HER AND VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT KIND OF THAT NEW SERVICE THAT NEW EFFORT TO EXISTING BUSINESSES, WHAT TYPE OF SERVICE MIGHT BE OFFERED TO A BUSINESS SO THAT YOU GO INTO AND YOU FIND OUT? THEY'RE NOT DOING[00:15:03]
SO HOT AND YEAH, THERE'S WAYS THAT WE CAN HELP THEM. WE CAN HELP THEM FIND GRANTS, YOU KNOW.BUT IT IT'S JUST MAINLY KEEPING THAT RELATION IF THERE'S IF THERE'S SOME KIND OF REGULATION THAT HIS ONEROUS WE COULD BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL. IF IT'S SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO CONSIDER. THERE'S A NUMBER OF WAYS YOU CAN DO IT WITHOUT WITHOUT YOU KNOW, INCREASING AN INCENTIVE OR AND GIVING SOME TYPE OF MONETARY BUT JUST LISTENING AND FIGURING OUT IN OTHER CITIES I'VE WORKED IN. THERE'S BEEN LIKE A FACADE PROGRAM TO HELP THEM UPDATE BUT AGAIN, WE'RE ALL PRETTY NEW, SO WE'RE NOT. WE'RE NOT THERE YET. OTHERS. QUICK QUESTION ON THE CERTIFICATES OF OCCUPANCY. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU COVERED THIS IN YOUR PRESENTATION. I DIDN'T CATCH IT IF YOU DID, BUT WE'VE HAD ABOUT BETWEEN FISCAL YEAR 2019 AND 2021 WE'VE HAD ABOUT 2000 PERMITS. AND ABOUT 69 CERTIFICATES OF OCCUPANCY. THE CEOS ARE JUST DOESN'T JUST FOR COMMERCIAL USES FOR BUSINESSES, OKAY? THESE ARE NOT FOR RESIDENTIAL. WE GOT YOUR RESIDENTIAL BUILDING PERMITS, BUT YOUR CERTIFICATES OF OCCUPANCY, SO WE'RE WE'RE TRYING TO GET A METRIC THAT KIND OF COVERS OUR BIGGEST VOLUME THAN A METRIC NEW BUSINESSES KIND OF SHOWING HOW WE'RE DOING WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND INCREASING THAT COMMERCIAL TAX BASE. AND THEN THE ACRES PLANTED IS KIND OF A METRIC SHOWING ARE KIND OF PLANNING AND ZONING ACTIVITY. THINKING. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A COUPLE MORE BRIEFINGS HERE THIS
[2.B. Briefing - Impact of extending zoning change notification letters beyond 200’ radius]
EVENING ON A COUPLE DIFFERENT ITEMS. THE NEXT ONE TONIGHT IS A BRIEFING ON THE IMPACT OF EXTENDING OUR ZONING CHANGES. EDUCATIONAL LETTERS. WE RECENTLY JUST PASSED AN ORDINANCE TO REQUIRE SIGNAGE, WHICH WAS A GOOD GOOD IMPROVEMENT. WE NOW ALSO AS A FOLLOW UP TO THAT I WANTED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION, WHICH IS A FOLLOW UP FOR THE COUNCIL. ON CHANGING THE ZONING CHANGE THE DISTANCE. AND SO THERE'S BEEN A COUPLE ANALYSES DONE. THAT ARE PROVIDED HERE TONIGHT AND WE'LL GO OVER TO PROVIDE THE COUNCIL WAS MORE INFORMATION TO MAKE A DECISION WHETHER THEY WANT TO MAKE SOME CHANGES. UM, THE THING I NEED OUT OF YOU COUNSEL IS YOU DON'T HAVE TO WEIGH IN ON WHETHER YOU YOU LIKE THE DISTANCE VISION OR NOT, BUT IF THE DISTANCE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IS NOT INCLUDED HERE? IN THE ANALYSIS, SO WE DO NEED TO KNOW THAT IF YOU WANT THAT DATA PRIOR TO MAKING DECISION WE ALSO NEED TO KNOW IF THERE'S ANY OTHER ANALYSIS. YOU NEED TO MAKE THAT DECISION BEFORE ITS SCHEDULED FOR CHANGE IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO DO, SO THOSE TWO THINGS AND YOU KNOW IF YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A SCHEDULING THE CHANGE AND IF SO, UM DO YOU HAVE ENOUGH ANALYSIS HERE PRESENTED TO MAKE THAT CHOICE ALREADY NEED SOMETHING ELSE? SO MISTER ED, WOULD YOU WALK US THROUGH WHAT YOU HAVE, AND THEN WE'LL GET BACK TO THE COUNCIL. ALRIGHT SO WE'VE GONE OVER THIS A LOT. HOW HE NOTIFY OF ZONING CHANGES WITH THE RECENT CHANGE OF REQUIRING SCIENCE TO BE POSTED, BUT THERE'S A VARIETY OF WAYS AND NOW WE'VE ADDED TO THAT WITH THE SIGN REQUIREMENT. ONE OF THOSE WAYS IS BAILING NOTICES.CURRENTLY THE REQUIREMENT IS TO MEL NOTICES TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FT. THOSE ARE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN THE TOWN. THEY'RE ON THE LATEST TAX ROLLS SO WE DON'T SEND THEM TO PROPERTIES AND THE A T J OR IN ADJACENT CITIES. SO IT WAS. IT WAS MENTIONED THAT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING THERE WAS SOME INTEREST IN POSSIBLY INCREASING THAT, SO THIS IS A LOOK AT SOME OTHER AREAS, CITIES AND THEIR NOTIFICATION DISTANCES. AS YOU SEE, MOST OF THEM ARE AT 200, WHICH IS THE KIND OF THE DEFAULT STATE REQUIREMENT OR A FEW THAT GO OVER THAT THREE CITIES THAT GO UP TO 300. THEN IT DIDN'T THEY GO UP TO 500? SO I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY THAT GO HIGHER THAN THIS, AT LEAST IN AND THIS AREA. AH, SO HERE'S AN EXAMPLE. OF ZONING CHANGE NOTIFICATION AT THE CURRENT 200 FT. SO THE DARKER COLOR IS THE PROPERTY THAT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THE ZONING CHANGE. AND THEN YOU SEE THE BUFFER AROUND IT. AND THEN IT HIGHLIGHTS THE PARCELS THAT WOULD BE SENT THE NOTICE. SO THERE'S 39 PARCELS IN THIS INCLUDES THREE DIFFERENT SUBDIVISIONS. SO WITH A 500 FT NOTIFICATION THAT WOULD GO UP TO 84 PARCELS AND THIS EXAMPLE AND STILL INCLUDE THOSE THREE SUBDIVISIONS. OF COURSE, IF THIS WAS PUT OVER THERE CLOSER TO
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PECAN SQUARE, THE NUMBER OF PARCELS AND BOTH OF THESE EXAMPLES WOULD GO UP QUITE A BIT BECAUSE THERE'S THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TOGETHER. AND THEN ANOTHER THING THAT CONSIDER THERE'S SOME OTHER NOTIFICATION OPTIONS THAT MAY BE AS EFFECTIVE AND MORE EFFICIENT THAN SENDING OUT MORE MAILING OUT MORE NOTICES. ONE OF THOSE IS THAT WE CAN POST NOTICED SOCIAL MEDIA.THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVEN'T DONE BEFORE. BUT AN ADVANTAGE OF THIS. IT WOULD BE VERY EASY TO SHARE. IF YOU WANTED TO GET OUT THERE TO OTHER PEOPLE. WE CAN INCLUDE A DIRECT LINK TO MORE INFORMATION, MORE DETAILED INFORMATION ON IT. UM SOME COULD BE A NEGATIVE OR POSITIVE. IT CAN GO VIRAL IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S VERY CONTROVERSIAL OR SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE REALLY, REALLY WANT, UH, NAKED, SPREAD OUT THERE PRETTY QUICKLY AND GET THE WORD OUT. AH IT COULD GENERATE SOME UNWANTED COMMENTS BECAUSE ANY ZONING CHANGE APPLICATION WE GET. WE HAVE TO PROCESS IT AND BRING IT BEFORE. PANSY IN TOWN COUNCIL. IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN IT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE POPULAR THAT COUNCIL AND EVEN, UH APPROVE BUT JUST BECAUSE THERE'S AN APPLICATION FOR IT, WE'VE GOT TO GO THROUGH WITH THAT, AND YOU MAY GET SOME UNWANTED COMMENTS ACTING AS IF YOU'RE GOING TO APPROVE THIS WHEN WE'RE JUST GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS. AND ANOTHER THING WE COULD DO IS SEND NOTICES TO THE NEARBY H AWAY AS IF THEY'RE WITHIN A CERTAIN DISTANCE. AND THEN THOSE ANCIENT WAYS CAN DISTRIBUTE THOSE NOTICES FURTHER. SO THOSE WERE. THOSE ARE KIND OF SOME SOME OTHER OPTIONS THAT CONSIDER AND SOME EXAMPLES OF WHATEVER IT IS WHAT IT WOULD DO TO INCREASE THE NOTIFICATION AREA. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR YOUR QUESTIONS.
WHAT ELSE DO YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THIS? I'M OKAY WITH KEEPING IT 200 FT. I LIKE THE CONCEPT OF SOCIAL MEDIA BECAUSE THAT'S JUST GETS IT OUT THERE. TRANSPARENCY IS IMPORTANT AND PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON DOWN. UM, BUT THAT'S IT'S ALSO A SECONDARY THING WAS BIGGEST REASONS. I KNOW THIS WAS BROUGHT UP BECAUSE WE HAD PROPERTIES IN THE PAST THAT RECESS THE AREA WITHIN THEIR PLATT. THAT WAS GOING TO BE REZONED. SO JASON PROPERTIES WEREN'T NOT NECESSARILY. THAT'S WHY THEY DID IT, BUT EFFECTIVELY ADJACENT PROPERTIES WEREN'T NOTIFIED. UM SO. WHETHER THAT RADIUS CHANGES OR NOT. I THINK IT SHOULD BE ANYBODY WITHIN 300 FT OR TWO AND THREE OR FOUR OR WHATEVER NUMBER IS PLUS ANY ACTUAL ADJACENT PROPERTIES. IF THAT'S IF THERE'S A LEGAL WAY TO WRITE THAT, I DON'T KNOW. BUT, UM BECAUSE WE'VE SEEN WE HAVE A PRIME EXAMPLE OF THAT IN PAST AT THE RIDGE. UM BUT I THINK THE FACEBOOK NOTIFICATIONS OF THE TOWN GOVERNMENT PAGE NOTIFICATION IS JUST A GREAT GREAT IDEA OUT THERE. I CONCUR.
I DO LIKE I DO LIKE SOCIAL MEDIA . UM OR MEDIA IN GENERAL, ELECTRONIC MEDIA IN GENERAL. A COUPLE THOUGHTS, SO ONE I DO PREFER THOSE MEANS OVER MAILERS BECAUSE MILLER'S GO TO A SPECIFIC SUBGROUP, AND THERE IS INTEREST IN AREAS THAT ARE BEYOND YOUR DIRECT ADJACENCY ACROSS TOWNS. SIGN UP FOR ALL KINDS OF UPDATES FROM OUR SISTER CITIES ON EITHER SIDE OF US, AND IT PROVIDES A LOT OF INFORMATION. WHAT'S GOING ON? THAT I THINK IS BENEFICIAL TO THE PUBLIC. I THINK THERE IS THERE DOES HAVE TO BE IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE PERHAPS A ONE WAY COMMUNICATION. I DO NOT BELIEVE IT'S OUR TOWN STAFF JOB TO PROCTOR. OUR CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS. THAT'S THE COUNCIL'S JOB TO PROVIDE A CONSTRUCTIVE FORUM FOR DISCUSSION ABOUT THESE, SO I DON'T WANT IT TO BE A FREE FOR ALL THE TOWN STAFF. PEOPLE YOU KNOW, POKING AND HAVING BASICALLY CONVERSATION. ON TOWN PAGES ABOUT THIS. HOWEVER, I DO THINK THE INFORMATION HAS TO BE DISTRIBUTED. AND I DO I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF COMING UP WITH A STRATEGY FOR ELECTRONIC DISTRIBUTION. WHICH SOME SAY IS WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE THIS YET, BUT I BELIEVE WE'RE WORKING IN THAT DIRECTION WITH THE GIS MAP DEVELOPMENT MAP. UM, SOME CITIES HAVE THE ABILITY TO GENERATE FOR ZONES NOTIFICATIONS FOR ALL ZONING CHANGES OR UPDATES TO PROJECTS WITHIN THAT ZONE. WHICH YOU CAN OPT INTO, AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE DIFFERENT PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT APPETITES FOR INFORMATION ON DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE TOWN, AND IT ISN'T JUST MEAN THE DISTANCE YOUR DISTANCE FROM IT COULD BE IF YOU'RE IN RESIDENTIAL REAL ESTATE, AND YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN RESIDENTIAL REAL ESTATE ALL ACROSS THE TOWN DURING COMMERCIAL, YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED ONLY IN COMMERCIAL.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE A RESIDENT LOOKING FOR COMMERCIAL, YOU MAY WANT TO KNOW ABOUT ALL THE
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COMMERCIAL UPDATES IN THE TOWN. THINK THERE'S A LOT OF APPETITE FOR INFORMATION THESE DAYS, BUT I DO THINK THAT THERE IS A POSSIBILITY FOR US TO EXPLORE THIS. IN ORDER TO CREATE A ONE WAY NOTIFICATIONS. AT LOW EXPENSE THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO MAINTAIN A DIALOGUE BECAUSE THAT'S NOT THE STAFF'S JOB. OTHER THAN RESPONDING TO FORMAL REQUESTS FOR INFORMATION. I THINK THAT'S APPROPRIATE, BUT WE CAN'T HAVE YOU SAID ON THE PHONE ALL DAY. TALKING TO PEOPLE, EITHER. YOU HAVE TO DO YOUR JOB, BUT THE INFORMATION HAS TO GET OUT THERE, SO I THINK THERE'S A BALANCE HAS TO BE STRUCK. BUT I THINK IT'S A DANGER THAT YOU GET SOME COMMENTS ABOUT IT, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? THAT'S THAT'S PART OF THE JOB. IT'S BETTER THAT PEOPLE HAVE THE INFORMATION. WE DEAL WITH THEIR CONCERNS RATHER THAN HAVE THEM. YOU KNOW, HAVING TO MAKE A DECISION AND NOT HEAR ABOUT THOSE CONCERNS UNTIL AFTERWARDS. UM I DON'T LIKE THE H O A VERSION BECAUSE I DON'T.WE DON'T HAVE CONTROL OVER HOW THEY PRESENT THAT INFORMATION. EXPLICITLY ESPECIALLY IF YOU'VE GOT MULTIPLE HORUS. ONE SENDS IT OUT. ONE DOESN'T ONE PACKAGES IN A DIFFERENT WAY. I PREFER THAT IF THE TOWN IS GOING TO SEND INFORMATION THAT BE DELIVERED TO THE END, USER OR CONSUMER DIRECTLY, WHETHER IT'S ELECTRONIC OR MALE AND PRESENTED IN THAT FORMAT AND LET THEM DECIDE WHAT TO DO WITH IT. BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT GIVING IT TO THE OAS. OTHER THAN THE BOYS WANT TO SIGN UP FOR THAT SAME INFORMATION AS A RESIDENT, AND THAT'S FINE AS WELL. BUT THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS THERE ON THE G. I S WHO WILL GET SINCE HALF IS DOING THAT WE'LL GET THEM TO LOOK AT OPTIONS FOR CAN YOU BRING IT BACK TO YOU? IF IT'S IF IT'S AVAILABLE, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT IS AND IF IT IS, AND THAT'S GREAT. I'M NOT ASKING FOR ANOTHER BRIEFING. I WANT TO GET THAT SYSTEM UP AND RUNNING WHEN IT'S UP AND RUNNING. YES IT'S SOMETHING. IT'S SOMETHING WE WANT TO DO THAT. AND THEN YOU WILL GET YOUR HELP ON THE SIDE. EXACTLY HOW WE DO THAT. I DON'T.
I DON'T KNOW THE GS CAN DO THAT CIRCLE AND EMAIL. BUT LIKE YOU SAID, IF YOU HAD ZONES IF THERE'S PARTICULAR AREA YOU COULD GET ON THAT NOTIFICATION LIST. SO WELL, CAPTAIN YOU'RE LOOKING AT. I THINK I BELIEVE THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE YOU KNOW, WE GET ONE THING. THERE'LL BE ANOTHER THING AND THEN ANOTHER THING. THIS IS GOING TO BE AN ITERATIVE PROCESS BY REBUILD FROM A SMALL TOWN INTO A LARGER TOWN, MORE CONSUMER ORIENTED TOWN. AND SO I EXPECT.
WE'LL BUILD ON THAT. THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY AND ASK FOR YOU TO PURSUE THAT DIRECTION. AT THIS POINT. I THINK WE'RE KIND OF TAKING THIS MAILER DISTRIBUTION HERE AT THE MOMENT, BUT WILL CONTINUE TO BUILD ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE BUILD, BUT FOR RIGHT NOW, MM. COUNSEL FURTHER THOUGHTS ON WHAT WAS PRESENTED TONIGHT ACTUALLY QUESTION REAL QUICK WHEN YOU SHOWED THE MAP PRIOR SLIDE YOU HAD YOU KNOW THIS PROPERTY AND THEN RADIUS. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE SOFTWARE FOR IT? YOU CAN LITERALLY CLICK ON APPLY AND SAY, HERE'S THE RADIUS AND GIVES YOU A LIST OF EVERYTHING THAT'S INVOLVED. UM, I WOULD LIKE TO PREVIOUSLY AS WE'VE DONE THESE, THE TOWN'S INCURRED THE EXPENSE OF MAILING. HE'S CORRECT . YES MOVING FORWARD, ESPECIALLY FOR YOU INCREASE THE RADIUS. I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT FEE SCHEDULE PRESENTED DEVELOPER OR THE APPLICANT. FOR THAT. I KNOW OUR TOWNS FAR AMOUNT AND OTHER TOWNS SAY OKAY, SIR, YOU'RE REQUESTING HIS ONLY CHANGED TO THIS AREA. IT'S GOING TO BE 294 MAILERS. HERE'S THE ADDRESS LIST. GO AT IT. RIGHT AND INCUR THAT COST TO THEM. BECAUSE WE DON'T NEED SPEND STAFF TIME. WE HAVE DIFFERENT STUFF. YOU WANT US TO SEND IT THAT JUST THEM TO COVER THE COST. PUT WE CAN LOOK AT BOTH WAYS. IT'S PRETTY TOUGH TO VERIFY THAT WOULD BE AT LEAST COVER THE COST OF PRINTING. WE DO THAT IN AGGREGATE, BUT YOU WANTED US TO DO IT SPECIFIC. WELL YOU KNOW IF THE COUNCIL DECIDES TO GO TO A 500 RADIUS AND IT EFFECTS, YOU KNOW 2000 PEOPLE AND PECAN SQUARE. THAT'S THAT'S A LOT OF THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY TO SHOULDER. SO I THINK WE MAKE SURE RECOVER THOSE THAT ARE CURRENT DISTANCE. I THINK WE CAPTURE ENOUGH TO COVER THOSE COSTS MOST MOST TIMES, AND IT'SD STUFF FOR OUR THAT FEE IS BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE ZONING CHANGE, TOO, SO THAT THAT KIND OF HELPS COVER IT. BUT IF WE DO IF THE COUNCIL DOES DECIDE TO INCREASE THAT AREA PROBABLY WOULDN'T MAKE SENSE TO HAVE SOME KIND OF FEED TO COMPENSATE WITH THAT ADDITION TO FOR THAT ADDITIONAL COST. I THOUGHT THE MAYOR'S SUMMED UP WHAT I THINK PRETTY PERFECTLY. WITHOUT TELLING ME THAT'S WHAT HE THOUGHT. I MEAN, I. IS THERE ANY REASON AS TO WHY DIDN'T HAS A 500 FT. I MEAN FROM THAT PREVIOUS SLIDE, THEY'RE THE ONLY PERSON THAT GOES TO 500 FT IN
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THE AREA. ANY KNOWLEDGE AS TO WHY THEY'RE AT THAT NUMBER OR JUST SEEM ARBITRARY. OKAY IT JUST SEEMS MEAN THEY' ABOVE 300N FORT WORTH AT 300 SO AND ON THAT SIDE WHERE YOU SHOWED IN THAT CASE, THAT ACRE LOTS LITERALLY THAT JUMPED FROM 205 100 LITERALLY JUST MADE IT SO THAT THE HOUSE BEHIND THAT HOUSE ALSO GETS A NOTIFICATION. IT'S REALLY NOT THAT MUCH OF A THAT AND MAKE MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE, AND EVEN IF IT WERE IN THE MIDDLE OF PECAN SQUARE, THREE MORE HOUSES GET TO KNOW LIKE IT. IT'S NOT GONNA THAT ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE IN PECAN SQUARE NEWS OR ANY ONE OF THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS. ANY NEIGHBORHOOD THEY'RE GOING TO PUT IT ON THEIR SOCIAL MEDIA'S AND EVERYONE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD SCHOOL NOW, SO IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THIS SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF WORK FOR VERY LITTLE SOCIAL MEDIA THING. SEEMS LIKE THE EASIEST WAY TO PUNCH AND I THINK, IF YOU CAN CIRCUMVENT THAT THINGS HAVE HAPPENED IN THE PAST, THEN YOU KIND OF CAPTURE IT ALL. I THINK THERE'S GONNA BE LESS THAN THAT BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE LESS OPPORTUNITIES FOR ENORMOUS PROPERTIES TO GET DEVELOPED, AND THEY CAN'T EVEN PULL THAT OFF. POSSIBLY, YOU KNOW. HAVE A COUPLE OF LEGAL QUESTIONS, SO THE STATE REQUIRES A 200 FT NOTIFICATION CORRECT.WHAT IS THE LEGAL EFFECT OF THE RESPONSE TO THOSE NOTIFICATIONS WHEN A AN ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER RESPONDS IN THE AFFIRMATIVE OR THE NEGATIVE WITH REGARD TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUESTS BECAUSE YOU REQUEST THAT THEY SEND IT BACK WITH THEIR OPINION, CORRECT. NO IT'S THEY'RE JUST NOTIFIED AT THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TOLD THAT THEY CAN SHOW UP AND MAKE THEIR OPINIONS KNOWN. THEY CAN PROTEST IN WRITING, AND THE LEGAL EFFECT OF THAT IS IF THERE'S A CERTAIN NUMBER OF PROTESTS RECEIVED THAN A SUPERMAJORITY VOTE MAY BE TRIGGERED, SO THERE'S NO EFFECT TO A POSITIVE COMMENT OTHER THAN WHATEVER IMPACT IT MIGHT HAVE ON YOU AND MAKING YOUR DECISION AND WHAT IS THE PERCENTAGE THAT THAT REQUIRES A SUPERMAJORITY 20. 20% 20% OKAY, SO THE SPIRIT OF THIS LAW UM, IS THAT. ANY ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER IS NOTIFIED IN THE EVENT OF A ZONING CHANGE REQUEST. OKAY AND, UM, I THINK WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE PAST IS DEVELOPERS NEGATING. THE EFFECT OF THAT LAW BY BACKING UP ON THEIR OWN PROPERTY, 200 FT IN THE LAW, ALLOWING THEM TO NOT NOTIFY ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS. THEM. I WOULD DISAGREE ABOUT THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES MOST AFFECTED. THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO BE LIVING NEXT DOOR LITERALLY ADJACENT TO THIS CHANGE. AND SO I THINK THEY SHOULD BE NOTIFIED. AND THE FACT THAT THEY CAN BACK UP ON THEIR PROPERTY AND THAT'S LEGAL AND NOT NOTIFY. ANYONE. OF THE ZONING CHANGE. UM I THINK THAT'S WRONG. I THINK IT VIOLATES THE SPIRIT OF THE LAW. AND SO IN AN EFFORT TO, UM TO ADDRESS THAT WHICH, LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER MONTINI HAS SAID WE'VE SEEN IN THE PAST MULTIPLE TIMES.
AND THAT I'VE BACKED UP THE LINE OF QUOTE DEVELOPMENT NOW WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. UM WITH THAT 200 FT ON A LOT OF THEM. THEY CAN COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL AND I CAN ASK FOR WHATEVER THEY WANT. UM BUT I THINK THAT IT IT DOESN'T NEED. WE NEED TO SOMEHOW ADDRESS THIS ISSUE BECAUSE THERE ARE LARGE LANDOWNERS OUT THERE THAT MIGHT WANT TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY.
AND IF EVERYBODY RESPECTS IT UP 200 FT, THEN NOBODY GETS NOTIFIED. AND THERE IS NO LEGAL EFFECT AT THAT POINT OF THE PROTESTS. THERE'S IT'S. THERE'S NO EFFECT WHATSOEVER SO IT WOULDN'T REQUIRE ANY KIND OF SUPER MAJORITY BECAUSE NO ONE'S NOTIFIED. TO YOUR APPOINTMENTS, HARDMAN WOULD. THIS IS FRESHLY IF WE CHANGE THE BURBAGE OF THIS TO 200 FT, PLUS ANY ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER NOW THAT IS OUR DEFINITION OF NOTIFICATION AREA AND THAT 20% WOULD APPLY CORRECT. IF YOU WANT IT TO BE WRITTEN THAT WAY WE CAN, RIGHT. OKAY, SO WE CAN CRAFT THAT TWO ACCOMPLISHMENTS. HARDMAN SCHOOLS , THERE MIGHT BE AN ISSUE WITH THAT, BECAUSE IT'S BASED ON SQUARE FOOTAGE IS BASED ON AREA THE 20% CORRECT, SO IF YOU DO AN ADJACENT OWNER. YOU CAN'T ALL OF THEIR TRACK OR JUST YOU KNOW IF YOU GET THAT NEXT ONE, SO THE 200 HELPS YOU BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT YOU KNOW A CIRCLE OR BASICALLY A CIRCLE, AND YOU CAN CALCULATE THAT. THAT AREA AND GET TO THE 20% SEND WITH THE 500. YOU COULD DO THAT AS WELL. BUT IF YOU DO THE NEXT TO JASON, WHAT DO YOU USE AS THAT 200 FT OF THEIR ADJACENT FRONTAGE. TO KEEP CONSISTENT. OKAY OR WHATEVER, BUT I THINK I THINK YOU GET THE SPIRIT OF WHAT WE'RE ASKING IF WE CAN CRAFT AWAY HOW YOU WANT
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TO CALCULATE. I THINK YOU CALCULATE EQUALLY WOULD BE THE MOST FAIR WAY TO DO IT.CALCULATE EQUALLY, SO YOU DON'T COUNT THEIR 962 ACRES YOU COUNT THEIR FRONTAGE. OF DO HARM FOOT SO LIKE A PARENT TRACKED TO WHAT WE CONSIDER OKAY? AND ALSO, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'D LIKE TO STAND UP FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO AREN'T ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND WHO DO LIKE GETTING THINGS VIA MAIL.
UM I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE AND I HATE TO REFER TO AN AGE GROUP HERE, BUT SOME OLDER PEOPLE IN TOWN MY MOTHER INCLUDED. WOULD LOVE TO HAVE HER NOTIFICATIONS VIA MAIL BECAUSE SHE'S NOT ON ANY OF THESE SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS. AND SO I'D LIKE TO KNOW IF WE'RE GOING TO STICK WITH THE EFFECT OF THE NOTIFICATION THAT IT NEEDS TO ACTUALLY REACH THE PERSON SO JUST PUTTING IT OUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND SAYING, HEY, YOU NEED TO BE ON SOCIAL MEDIA IN ORDER TO GET OUR INFORMATION. UM THE 200 FT NOTIFICATION IS GOING TO APPLY, NO MATTER WHAT, AND WE'RE DOING THE SIGNS NOW AND HAVE IT ON OUR WEBSITE AND ALSO TO POINT OUT ALONG WITH HER WEBSITE WHENEVER WE POSTED IT. THERE IS THE OPTION TO SIGN UP TO GET NOTICED ANY TIME THOSE ARE POSTED. SO YOU COULD BE AWARE OF ANY PUBLIC HEARINGS AND THE ENTIRE TOWN. WE DON'T HAVE A DIVIDED UP, BUT BY ZONES THINK OF A GOOD TIME. PUSH THAT OUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA, THE SIGN UP LINK PROBABLY EVERY SIX MONTHS OR SO, AT LEAST. ANOTHER IDEA WOULD BEI MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, ON ONE SIDE. I DON'T EVEN OWN A LANDLINE. BUT YOUR MOTHER PROBABLY DOES. RIGHT. SO I DIDN'T. ACTUALLY HE DOESN'T TRYING TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION THERE. BUT YOU KNOW, IN THE COUNTER TO THAT WOULD BE. I HAVE MY PHONE SET TO NO ONE WHO IS NOT IN MY CONTACT LIST GETS THROUGH TO ME. WELL YEAH, BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK YOU COULD DO THAT TO CELL PHONES. YOU CAN ONLY DO THAT TO LANDLINES ANYWAY, BUT I DO KNOW THERE'S A YOU KNOW, I HAVE A CITY. I HAVE A COMPANY IN ANOTHER CITY, AND WE GOT ROBO CALLS ALL THE TIME ABOUT ZONING CHANGES AT THE BUSINESS BECAUSE IT JUST IT CALLS EVERYBODY ONE. BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW EXPENSIVE SUCH A PROGRAM IS OR HOW EFFECTIVE IT IS. THERE ARE SOME OUT THERE. WE'VE HAD A TENDENCY NOT TO USE OUR EMERGENCY SERVICES OR EVER BRIDGE OR WHAT THE ONE WE HAD BEFORE, BUT I THINK THERE'S SOME SERVICES THAT GO THAT GO BEYOND THAT, AND SO THEY CAN DO THAT. BUT AGAIN IF IT'S PERCENT OF LANDLINE. IT'S HARD TO DEFINE THAT. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS COUNCIL. I APPRECIATE THE DISCUSSION ON THIS. SO COUNCIL. UM CAN YOU FRAME UP THE PARAMETERS OF WHAT ? YOU WOULD LIKE THEM TO BRING BACK SO WE DON'T HAVE TO MAKE TOO MANY CHANGES. NEXT TIME WHEN WE BRING THIS BACK, I THINK WE CLARIFIED THE SETBACK LOOPHOLE AS TO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. WHICH WAS THE THAT WAS ONE OF THE KEY ONES. I THINK THAT'S UNDERPINS THE DISTANCE WORK MARKER. IF WE WERE TO LOCK IT IN AT THE PARCELS. ARE YOU INCLINED TO KEEP THE 200 FT IF IT CAN BE EVERY JOINING PARCEL, DO YOU STILL WANT TO INCREASE THE FOOTAGE? WHAT? WHAT WHAT DIRECTION DO YOU WANT TO GO TO GIVE STAFF TO PREPARE THE ORDINANCE FOR EVALUATION IN THE FUTURE? I THINK THAT YOU ARE FEED BECOMES SUFFICIENT WITH OUR SIGNAGE AND EVERYTHING ELSE AS LONG AS IT TOUCHES EVERY ADJACENT PARCEL. UM, BECAUSE THAT'S THE FULL MASTER PARCEL. THE WRAPAROUND. BASICALLY I THINK WE'VE DISCUSSED ENOUGH THAT STAFF AS A I MEAN, THAT'S ONLY TWO COUNSELORS THOUGHTS UP HERE. I LOVE THIS EXAMPLE. I'D LOVE TO SEE LIKE SIX MORE. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S BEEN YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? LIKE WHAT WOULD IT LOOK LIKE? SURE IN THIS EXAMPLE WOULD HAVE LOOKED LIKE IT FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CON SQUARE. WOULD IT LOOK LIKE IF IT WERE YOU KNOW, ON FLORENCE, WHERE THERE'S ONLY LARGE PROPERTY TRACKS? WHAT WOULD IT LOOK LIKE? INDICATING FALLS LIKE, COULD YOU EMAIL ME A LIST OF PEOPLE'S SOME EXAMPLES? THEY MAY THEY MOVED. GO INSIDE.
IF YOU DID THE SAME THING YOU KNOW, NORTH OF THE SPEEDWAY. NOBODY WOULD KNOW, RIGHT? SO THAT'S SIX MORE UNION OR WHATEVER. I'M JUST I'M OKAY, RATTLING THEM OFF HARD TIME.
OKAY SO A COUPLE MORE EXAMPLES, BUT FOR A FOR A BASE DISCUSSION THAT MIGHT GET AS CLOSE TO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. MASTER PARCEL 200 FT. I KNOW WE HAD ONCE SAY, KEEP IT WHERE IT IS. SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S A COUPLE THAT ARE OPEN TO MAKING SOME CHANGES. BILL. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD TO THE CONVERSATION ON THIS ONE? OKAY ALL RIGHT, SO WE'LL BRING SOMETHING BACK FOR CONSIDERATION WITH THOSE PARAMETERS. DOES THAT WORK? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.
[2.C. Briefing - Waste Connection Rate Increase per Contract]
ALRIGHT SO INFLATION IS COMING AS WE ALL KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN UPDATE ON OUR WAIST[00:40:02]
CONNECTION RATES. CONTINUE, SIR. FEVER IN THE MIDDLE. WELL, I WOULDN'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY ABOUT IT OTHER THAN WE HAVE SOME INCREASE, ACCORDING TO OUR CONTRACT FOR INFLATION. MM CAN YOU GIVE US ANYTHING THAT WE'D VERY SIMPLE. PERFECT PER CONTRACT. FURTHER FORMULA. IT'S 6.98 70% OF THE INFLATION RATE AND 30% OF THE LANDFILL USAGE COST. SO. HOW DO WE GET FROM SOME 0.8 AND 5.126 POINT 98 YOU MULTIPLY THOSE AND PUT THEM BACK TOGETHER AGAIN. THIS IS PART OF OUR AGREEMENT, AND I'M SURE EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT PRICES ARE GOING UP. GAS IS GOING UP ALL THEIR LABOR IS GOING UP ALL THE STUFF THAT AFFECTS THEM AND THIS IS THIS IS PART OF THE AGREEMENT , SO I KNOW IT'S NOT, UM YOU KNOW, IT'S. IT STINKS TO RAISE PRICES, BUT THEIR COSTS HAVE INCREASED TO AND THIS IS WHAT WE AGREED TO WITH OUR AGREEMENT. SO THIS IS WHAT THE NEW RATES WILL BE, AND THIS IS AN ALL INCLUSIVE PRICE. HAVE THE SALES TAX IN FRANCHISE FEE. THE ADDITIONAL CARTS WHAT'S DRIVING THE UNDERPINNING THERE FOR A DOLLAR FORCE AND INCREASE IS THAT THEIR DECISION OR CAUSE THAT ONE'S NOT A 7% INCREASE. THAT'S ABOUT 25.UM YEAH, I HAVE TO GET MINE. MATH GOT TO DO THAT? WELL, JOHN DO WE KNOW WHAT BESIDE. YEAH, WELL, YEAH. OKAY SO IT'S GOING TO FOLLOW THE SAME FORMULAS. THE OTHER 17% SHOULD BE 7% OKAY, SO 4 59. PLUS 7% YEAH. OKAY, ALRIGHT. WHEN IS THIS CONTRACT DUE UP. PROBABLY ANOTHER FOUR YEARS. JUST RECENTLY. THE COUNCIL JUST RECENTLY ADOPTED IT WAS ABOUT A YEAR AGO. WE HAD THEM ABOUT A YEAR AGO YEAR FIVE YEAR WITH OPTIONAL FIVE YEARS. I MEAN, IT'S ONLY A DOLLAR INCREASE. BUT TO BE HONEST, I DON'T THINK THE SERVICE WE'RE GETTING IS DESERVES AN INCREASE.
WE GOT TRASH PICKED UP. ALL DIFFERENT HOURS. DIFFERENT DAYS. SOMETIMES IT'S OVERNIGHT. AND THEY LIKE THIS, WITH THE WIND BLOWING I'LL BE PICKING STUFF OFF MY FENCE FOR THE NEXT WEEKEND. IT'S JUST. THERE'S NO RHYME OR REASON IS HOW THEY'RE DOING THEIR SERVICE. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A FUNCTION OF NOT HAVING ENOUGH TRUCKS. OR JUST BEING OVEREXTENDED OR WHAT? BUT BUT I GUESS WE'RE STUCK WITH IT FOR FOUR MORE YEARS. MR GANZ? I ABSOLUTELY CONCUR. THE SERVICE HAS NOT IMPROVED AS THEY PROMISED. SO IF YOU COULD COMMUNICATE THAT BACK TO THEM.
BLOOD KNOCKED OVER CONTAINERS EVEN WHEN THEY DON'T FULLY EMPTY A CONTAINER AND LEAVE IT LAYING OUTSIDE FOR LATER BLOW AWAY. THEY DON'T EVEN BOTHER CLOSING THE LID AFTER DONE SO. YEAH I TOTALLY CONFIRMED MR GANZ. IT'S KIND OF APPALLING. THEY WOOED US WITH NEW CONTRACT AND HAVE CONTINUED TO UNDER DELIVER. MAYBE NOT IN ALL AREAS OF TOWN, BUT CERTAINLY IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN A CONSISTENT THEME FOR OUR MASTER PLAN NEIGHBORHOODS AS WELL. THE ISSUES ARE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT BECAUSE ON THE STREETS MUST REALLY HAVE AS MANY KNOCKED OVER CANS. WHICH I EXPECT IS PARTIALLY DUE TO ROAD SERVICES AND BEING OFF THE ROAD A LITTLE BIT. BUT THERE'S DEFINITELY BEEN INCONSISTENCY AND PICK UP WE KNOW AND THERE'S A WEATHER EVENT . MOST PEOPLE UNDERSTANDING OF THAT, BUT THE COMMUNICATION ON WHETHER THEY WERE GOING TO. THEY ANNOUNCED. WE'RE GOING TO PICK UP TOMORROW. WE'RE NOT GOING TO PICK UP AND THE NEXT DAY THEY COME BACK OUT. JUST THEIR THEIR CUSTOMER SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENTS HAVE BEEN VERY DIFFICULT. THAT IS IN HAS BEEN WAS A FRUSTRATION CONTINUES TO BE A FRUSTRATION. WE NEED TO SEE SOME IMPROVEMENT IN THEIR CUSTOMER SERVICE COMMUNICATION. UM BECAUSE WHEN THEY'RE OUT AND ABOUT THERE, NOT AS QUICK TO PICK UP AND DEAL WITH THINGS WHEN THERE'S A SPECIFIC INSTANCE WHERE THEY GET SOME FEEDBACK, I HAVE SEEN THEM FOLLOW UP. WHEN SOMEONE COMPLAINTS, BUT THOSE CAN BE MITIGATED BY ADVANCED WARNING OF WHEN THEY'RE COMING BECAUSE FOLKS ARE TRYING TO DO WHATEVER THEY SAY IF IT MEANS WAIT A WEEK OR THEY'RE GOING TO COME BACK TOMORROW, EITHER ONE. THEY JUST NEED TO KNOW. SO IF WE COULD JUST PASS ON THE FEEDBACK THAT BE HELPFUL. DO WE HAVE A PERFORMANCE CLAUSE IN THE CONTRACT? UM. PROBABLY. I DON'T HAVE IT. IN FRONT OF ME MEMORIZATION. UM. UM YEAH COUNCIL HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO CHOOSE ANOTHER PROVIDER AND BASED ON THE COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC EVERYBODY WAS SATISFIED WITH THE CURRENT SO BUT YEAH,
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WE'RE STILL INTO FOUR YEARS. I WILL TELL YOU THAT MOST MOST PROVIDERS IN THESE GROWING AREAS OR HAVING THE SAME ISSUE I SPOKE WITH. MANAGER OF A NEIGHBORING CITY ABOUT THEIR FRUSTRATION WITH THEIR CONTRACTOR, WHICH WAS ONE THAT BID ON THIS AND THEY'RE HAVING THE SAME FRUSTRATION. UME WELL AWARE OF THIS, BECAUSE NOW THAT THIS WAS ON OUR BILL, THE FIRST CALL IS USUALLY TO US, SO PROBABLY 70% 80% OF OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE CALLS AREN'T RELATED TO WATER. THEIR RIGHT LADY TO TRASH. WE HAVE TO SEND THEM RIGHT TO PLACE CONNECTIONS, YOU KNOW, BEFORE WE WERE WE WERE SIMILAR OBLIVIOUS TO THAT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T THAT IT SEE US . THEY DIDN'T SEE OUR NAME ON THE BILL. SO WE'RE AWARE OF THIS. WE'RE GOING TO ASK IN THE BUDGET FOR UTILITY BUILDING SUPERVISOR TO BE THE POINT PERSON WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM TO TRY TO DID PROMISE SOME SOCIAL MEDIA PRESENCE THAT THEY HAVEN'T DELIVERED ON. WE'RE TRYING TO BRING THEM ALONG AND HELP THEM. HOW THEY DO CONTACT US IF THERE'S A DELAY, AND WE TRY TO PUSH THAT OUT AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN ALL VARIOUS CHANNELS, SO, YEAH, STEPWISE. WE'RE NAVIGATING IT AND IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A NEW ROLE FOR US BEING KIND OF CAUGHT IN THE MIDDLE, BUT IT'S GOOD THAT WE ARE BECAUSE WE CAN WE CAN TRIAGE THESE AND EXPEDITE THE SERVICE. BUT AGAIN. I'M NOT DEFENDING THEM. WE WILL SHARE THESE CONCERNS. UM, UM THEY. WE GREW BY 50% IN POPULATION FROM 2020 2021. THEY THEIR CUSTOMER BASE IN NORTH LAKE NOW THEY KNEW WHAT THEY WERE SIGNING UP FOR. THEY KNEW WERE FAST GROWTH TOWN, SO I'M NOT DEFENDING THEM. BUT AGAIN, THEY'RE THEY'RE LIKE ALL THE OTHER PROVIDERS ARE HAVING CHALLENGES, BUT WE'LL DEFINITELY BRING ALL YOUR CONCERNS TO THEM AND WE DO AND WE'RE ON THEM ANDT PERFORMANCE CLAUSE. IF THERE'S A IF THERE'S A WAY OUT, BUT THIS INCREASES IS PART OF THE CONTRACT. I'M NOT EVEN SO CERTAINLY WANT OUT SO MUCH AS WE JUST WANT. FOR THE RATE WE PAY FOR, AND THIS IS PART OF WHAT I EXPECTED THEM ALL TO COME WITH US WITH IS THAT WE ARTICULATED. WE WANT A CERTAIN LEVEL OF CUSTOMER SERVICE. WE WANTED A CERTAIN LEVEL OF SERVICE AS FAR AS OPTIONS AND WE WANT THEM TO DELIVER HIGH CUSTOMER SERVICE IN THIS SPACE, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR, AND WHETHER FOLKS ARE PAYING AN ADDITIONAL DOLLAR FOR THAT. I'M CERTAIN WE'D PAY ANOTHER DOLLAR IF WE COULD GUARANTEE THE KIND OF SERVICE WE EXPECT. WE WANT US TO BE IN THE BUSINESS OF PROVIDING A HIGH LEVEL OF CUSTOMER SERVICE, SO WE DIDN'T KNOW WE WERE GOING TO PUT STAFF IN THE WAY A LITTLE BIT. UM BUT THAT IS, THE POINT IS, WE'RE TRYING TO BE A FOCAL POINT TO DRIVE. THE CHANGE. WE'RE LOOKING FOR.SO I APPRECIATE BRINGING IT TO OUR ATTENTION, BUT ALSO PLEASE PROVIDE OUR FEEDBACK, OF COURSE.
QUICK QUESTION. IS THIS A STANDARD? WOULD THIS HAVE BEEN THE STANDARD CONTRACT WE SIGNED WITH EVERY ONE OF THEM A YEAR AGO? I DON'T REMEMBER IF WE WOULD HAVE IN THE PREVIOUS CONTRACT WITH THEM. AND THEN THE OTHER. ENTITIES THEY ALL HAVE. A PERHAPS A SUGGESTION IS TO, UH TO LESSEN THAT EXTENDED THE CONTRACT TERMS IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF YEARS, MAYBE GO TO A TWO YEAR CONTRACT OR A THREE YEAR CONTRACT OR EVEN LESS GO HERE BY YEAR BECAUSE UPON YOU GO UP ON PRICE, WE DID NOTICE THEM INCREASE THEIR CUSTOMER SERVICE IN THE MONTHS. YOU HEADING UP TO THE VOTE. IMAGINE THAT. SO ANYWAY. THANK YOU GOOD. THANK YOU. I CAN DO THIS ONE TOO. YES,
[2.D. Briefing - Bob Smith Management Co. Tract Annexation Process]
PLEASE. SO THIS NEXT ITEM IS A ANNEXATION PROCESS FOR A PARCEL OF LAND DOWN AROUND THE AIRPORT.UM, SCORING CAN WALK US THROUGH. THIS IS AN INTERESTING ONE. THEY CAME TO THE TOWN WE HAVE BEEN NATHAN AND I HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING WITH THIS GROUP FOR 10 10 YEARS NOW OR MORE. ABOUT WHAT? JUST WHAT'S GOING ON IN NORTH LAKE IN OUR DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES, SO WE'VE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH IT, BUT IT'S JUST FAMILY LAND. AND SO WITH SOME OF THE NEW IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE COMING TO THIS AREA THEY'VE DECIDED NOW TO ANNEX. THEY HAVE 237 ACRES THERE ON THE EAST AND SOUTH SIDE OF THE AIRPORT OUT THERE. THERE'S 37 ACRES THAT WERE WAS THE NOT ANNEX, SO THEY JUST WANT THIS ALL ALL THEIR 237 TO ALL BE IN THE TOWN. AND SO. SO REALLY, IT'S JUST IT'S JUST THE REMAINDER OF THEIR MAIN AREA. SO AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE MAP, AND
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ANYTHING CREATED IS A MAJORITY OF ITS IN IN THE TOWN. AND SO THEY PETITIONED US. THIS IS ONE OF THE COUNCIL GOALS IS TO CONTINUE TO INCREASE OUR TOWN LIMITS. THEY. LIKE A LOT. SOME OF THESE OTHER PROPERTIES IN THIS AREA THEY'RE THEY'RE LOOKING TO DEVELOP. WE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SOME OTHER PROPERTIES TO THE WEST OF HERE. AND WE'VE GOT THE CLEVELAND GIBBS ROAD PROJECT. SO, UM AND THEN I THINK WHEN WE WERE TALKING WITH WITH ASHLEY AND LOOKING AT THIS, UM, WE NEED TO GET UM, WE NEED TO DO THE ZONING IN A SEPARATE STEP. IS THAT CORRECT? YES, BUT TIME. TWO SEPARATE ACTION ITEMS FOR THE SAME MEETING. YEAH MUCH LIKE YOU'RE DOING TONIGHT LATER IN YOUR ACTION ITEMS WITH SAINT PETER. UM PRETTY MUCH FOLLOWS THAT SIMILAR TRACK. QUESTIONS COUNSELORS. JUST LIKE 237 ACRES INCLUSIVE OF THE 37. THAT'S NOT I BELIEVE SO. IT'S 200 IN THE TOWN AND 37 IN THE DJ. THE EXISTING 200 ACRES IS CURRENTLY ZONED RURAL RESIDENTIAL. YES AND SO THEY WANT TO REZONE ALL OF IT TO INDUSTRIAL CORRECT. SO THAT'S OKAY. AND THAT FITS WITH OUR LAND USE PLAN. THANK YOU WHEN IT ORIGINALLY CAME INTO THE TOWN.WHY DID THEY EXCLUDE THAT? WAS THERE A DIFFERENT PLAN? THEN THERE WAS SOME THERE WAS SOME ANNEXATIONS INDIANA FIXATIONS AROUND THAT TIME PERIOD. I KNOW THAT THE AIRPORT WAS PART OF THE TOWN, AND THEN THEY ASKED TO BE DNX. THERE WAS SOME ORIGINAL MARSHALL'S SO. TO GOING BACK TO THE 19 SIXTIES. THE TOWN KIND OF LOOKED LIKE A PEARL NECKLACE. SHE'D GRAB A HOUSE. YOU GO DOWN THE ROAD, YOU GRAB THE NEXT PROPERTY AND SO IN IN A SIGNAL SHOW UP ON THIS, BUT AH! KIND OF WHERE THAT AREA TO BE ANNEXED JUST ABOVE. IT WASN'T WAS A ORIGINAL. AH FOUNDER OF THE TOWN IN THAT AND SO THAT ENDED UP STAYING IN, BUT I'M NOT SURE WE COULD GO BACK THROUGH THE RECORDS ON ON WHY IT WAS IN AND OUT, BUT I DO KNOW IN THIS AREA. THERE WERE SOME BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN BEING AN ACCIDENT. REPEALED IN DNX. UM BUT. AND IS NATHAN. IS THIS A SEPARATE TRACTORS? IT ALL ONE TRACT. SO THAT WOULDN'T EXPLAIN WHY PART OF IT'S YEAH, IT'S ODD. HOW DID THAT, BUT THIS WOULD HOW LONG AGO WAS THAT? HOW LONG HAS IT BEEN OUT OF THE TOWN AT LEAST SINCE NIGHT SINCE FIT FOR 15 YEARS, IT WAS PROBABLY THAT A LOT OF THAT. ANNEXATION DNX STATION AROUND THE AIRPORT HAPPENED IN THE NINETIES. SURELY WHEN YOU NEED HER, I KNOW. I KNOW. WE'LL GET HER ON A HOTLINE GIVE HER CALL A FRIEND. SO HERE'S A SCHEDULE AND, UM WILL NOTICE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND HOW THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE ON THE 14TH. COUNSELORS. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. IT IS 6 23 PM, AND AT THIS TIME WE'LL CALL FOR PUBLIC INPUT. DO WE HAVE ANYONE TURNING A CARD THIS EVENING? ALL RIGHT. I DO HAVE ONE HERE. REPUBLICAN PUT FORM. DO WE HAVE MR IS THIS FOR THE FOR THE HEARING. OKAY, ONE SECOND THING. ALL RIGHT. SO THEN IT'S MR PATTERSON HERE, OKAY? DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK NOW? PUBLIC INPUT, OR DO YOU WANT TO WAIT FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING? THERE'S TWO OPPORTUNITIES TO SPEAK. BOTH OF THEM ARE IDENTICAL. WE JUST HAVE TO. WE HAVE TWO PLACES ON THE AGENDA TO TALK ABOUT THIS.
YOU CAN SPEAK NOW OR YOU CAN WAIT A FEW MINUTES TILL WE GET TO THAT AGENDA ACTION ITEM, BUT BOTH OF THEM YOU'LL BE ABLE TO PRESENT WHATEVER IS YOU WISH TO PRESENT. OKAY VERY GOOD. THEN WE'LL HOLD THAT FOR JUST A COUPLE MINUTES AND WE SHOULD REALLY SHOULDN'T TAKE US THAT LONG TO GET THERE. IT'S JUST A COUPLE ITEMS THIS EVENING. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL HEAR FROM YOU IN A MINUTE, THEN. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN PUBLIC
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INPUT TONIGHT? IF NOT AT 6. 24 PM WILL CLOSE PUBLIC INPUT FOR THIS EVENING. ALL RIGHT. AT THIS TIME, WE'LL PICK UP OUR CONSENT ITEMS ITEMS E AND F THIS EVENING . WE HAVE THE COUNTY TOWN COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES FOR MARCH, 10TH, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO CANCEL THE MEETING THE REGULAR TOWN COUNCIL MEETING FOR APRIL 28TH. WE DON'T FEEL WE NEED THAT[00:55:02]
MEETING NEXT MONTH, AND SO WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO CANCEL THAT. AND SO YOU CAN. I CAN PULL THAT FOR CONVERSATION IF YOU WISH, BUT WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE THAT MEETING. WE CAN GET BY WITH ONE. SO I HAVE TWO ITEMS FOR CONSENT THIS EVENING. THEY'RE OPEN FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION OR FOR PULLING.MOTION TO APPROVE OF CONSENT ITEMS. ALL RIGHT. I HAVE A MOTION IN THE SECOND TO APPROVE ITEMS E AND F. YOU CAN OPEN THE VOTING. YES ON THE CANCELATION. THERE'S EARLY VOTING FOR LOCAL ELECTION WAS ANOTHER REASON FOR THE CANCELATION. ALRIGHT IT IS UNANIMOUS SEVEN AND OH, VERY
[5.G. Consider calling and authorizing a public hearing to be held on April 14, 2022, at 5:30 p.m., at the Town of Northlake, 1500 Commons Circle, Suite 300, Northlake, Texas 76226, in the Council Chambers, regarding the proposed annexation of the remaining unannexed portion of the 237.569- acre Bob Smith Management Co. Tract, is generally located on the east side of Cleveland-Gibbs Road approximately 200 feet south of the intersection with Edna Lane]
GOOD. THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME, WE'LL MOVE TO OUR REGULAR ACTION ITEMS. THE FIRST ONE THIS EVENING IS CALLING THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT WE JUST SPOKE ABOUT HERE BEFORE THE BOB SMITH MANAGEMENT COMPANY TRACKED ALONGSIDE EAST SIDE OF CLEVELAND . GIBBS ROAD SOUTH OF ED AND ELAINE. THIS IS THE ONLY ACTION WE'RE TAKING. THIS ITEM IS TO CALL THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR APRIL 14TH. UM, COUNSELORS, YOUR ACTION. DID YOU ALREADY GET TO THIS? VIDEO MOTION. ERI, I THINK YEAH, NOT CLEARED UP. OKAY? I THINK WE NEED TO CLEAR LAST ACTUALLY. ALL RIGHT. SO NOW WE CAN TAKE CONSIDERATION OF THIS ITEM. YEP, YOU'RE RIGHT. SORRY. WE JUST WE REBOOTED THE SYSTEM. UM RIGHT BEFORE WE STARTED. THERE WE GO. THANK YOU . ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION IN THE SECOND COUNCIL. I NEED TO OPEN THE US TO TALK ABOUT THIS FOR A SECOND. DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS THAT WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT ALREADY. ALRIGHT THEN OPEN . THE MOTION ARE FOR VOTE.[5.H. Consider approving a Service Plan and Ordinance 22-0324A for the annexation of approximately 10.963 acres of land situated in the Lewis Medlin Survey, Abstract No. 830, generally located at the southwest corner of Chadwick Parkway and Cleveland-Gibbs Road at 15701 Cleveland-Gibbs Road. Saint Peter Lutheran Church is the owner/applicant. Case No. ANX-22-001]
ALL RIGHT. YOU KNOW WHAT? IT'S UNANIMOUS. ALL RIGHT NOW WE'RE ON A TIGHT, UM H, WHICH IS A SERVICE PLANNING ORDINANCE FOR THE ANNEXATION OF THE ST PETER LUTHERANS CHURCH. AT CHADWICK PARKWAY IN CLEVELAND GIBBS ROAD . WE NEED TO HAVE AN OVERVIEW THE SERVICE PLAN. THEN WE'LL DO THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN ACTION ON THE ORDINANCE. SO MR CORN, WHAT DO WE HAVE TO SHARE ABOUT THE SERVICE PLAN? IT'S YOUR SURE TYPICAL SERVICE PLAN OF THE SERVICES THE TOWN PROVIDES AND AS MY NATHAN MENTIONED EARLIER. WE HAVE BUREAU VERITAS DOES OUR POOL INSPECTIONS, SO I THINK THAT WAS A QUESTION THAT THAT THAT WE SPEND A LITTLE TIME ON OUR LAST HANNITIZATION. THE COUNCIL WAS WORRIED THAT WE WERE ON LIABILITY FOR POOLS. BUT THIS IS JUST THE INSPECTION OF THOSE POOLS. BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S PLEASE PROTECTION FIRE PROTECTION THROUGH THE DISTRICT MAINTENANCE OF ROADS IF THERE ARE PARKS, PUBLIC PARKS, PUBLIC PLAYGROUNDS, PUBLIC SWIMMING POOLS THAT AREN'T ALREADY COVERED THROUGH SOME KIND OF MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT. WE WOULD MAINTAIN THOSE. WE DON'T WE DON'T HAVE ANY PUBLIC PARKS.PUBLIC PLAYGROUNDS OR PUBLIC POOLS. AT THIS POINT, THEY'RE ALL MAINTAINED BY HORUS MAINTENANCE OF OUR WATER AND WASTEWATER FACILITIES AND THEN ADMINISTRATION ENFORCEMENT OF CODES AND ORDINANCES. INSPECTION SERVICES. OF COURSE WE OUTSOURCE THOSE AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS OF ROADS, WATER FACILITIES, WASTEWATER SERVICES. OBVIOUSLY SIR. BOILERPLATE SERVICE PLAN THAT WE USE THE SAME FOR CASING THE AREA NEXT PART OF THE STATE REQUIREMENT. IT'S JUST SHOWING THIS NEW AREA. SO THEY HAVE FULL DISCLOSURE OF THE LEVEL OF SERVICE AND WE'RE AS AS YOU'VE SAID BEFORE. WE'RE OUR SUITE OF SERVICES IS PRETTY SMART, MINIMAL WERE LOW COST. UM WE PROVIDES SERVICES WELL, BUT WE DON'T PROVIDE MANY SERVICES OR AS MANY AS OTHER TOWNS DO. SO THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE FOR THIS THEN IS THERE ANYTHING ON THIS PROPERTY THAT WE WOULD BE TAKING OVER? NO. OKAY? THANK YOU. COUNSELORS YOUR QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. IT'S AN EXISTING CHURCH. WE WERE GOING TO COME BACK LATER AND SO
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ON IT AS COMMERCIAL. IT WOULD REQUIRE, UM THEY'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH ANY REUSE WOULD GO THROUGH. UM P. N Z GO THROUGH THE COUNCIL TO DETERMINE IF IT'S UM AND I NEED TO MEET OUR COMMERCIAL USAGE TABLE. UM. I GUESS THAT'S A COMMERCIAL USE. THAT'S AND THE CHURCH IS DIFFERENT, AND IT READ DEVELOPS, AND IT'S NOT A COMMERCIAL USE. I MEAN, IT'S COMMERCIAL UTES THAT'S IN OUR TABLE, BUT IT'S NOT. DESIRED BY THE COUNCIL. MAYBE THAT'S A DOWNSIDE. THERE'S NO PROPERTY TAX IMPLICATION BECAUSE THE CHURCH IS TAX EXEMPT THERE IN THE DJ NOW SO THERE'S NO THERE'S NO TAXES, LOCAL TAXES ON THAT. UM IT IS AN NEWLY. TRADED AREA. IT'S NEW TO OUR DJ, UM BUT ALL THE SERVICES ARE ALREADY TOWN THAN WATER AND SEWER. AH, PROVIDING POLICE SERVICE. TO THIS SMALL ADDITIONAL AREA WOULD NOT BE A GREAT IMPACT. UM, THE ROADS ARE RELATIVELY NEW. UM WE'VE GOT A MAJORITY OF THAT ROAD ANYWAY, THAT THEY'RE ON SO AND IF THEY STAYED IN THE T J. THEY COULD DO WHATEVER THEY WANTED, ANYWAY. WELL AND THEN YOU ASK FOR DOWNSIDES. SO UPSIDES IS THAT THIS WOULD WE WOULD HAVE SOME MORE CONTROL OVER THIS WOULD BE IN THE TOWN. IF IT REDEVELOPED THEY'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH. THROUGH THE TOWN. YEAH, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING FURTHER. ALRIGHT THIS TIME. WE NEED TO DO A PUBLIC HEARING THEN. SO IT IS 6 32. PM YOU HAVE TO PROVE THE SERVICE PLAN FIRST, OKAY? DO I HAVE A MOTION TO CONSIDER THE SERVICE PLAN. AND YET.ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION IN THE SECOND. WE'RE NOT. WE'RE NOT OPEN YET. THERE IT GOES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. UNANIMOUS. ALL RIGHT, IT IS 6. 33 PM WILL MOVE ON TO THE PUBLIC HEARING. MR PATTERSON, YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME FORWARD. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND THEN ARE TYPICAL FOR PUBLIC INPUT IS THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. WE DON'T HAVE A LENGTHY LIST OF PEOPLE SPEAKING. SO YOU'RE WELCOME TO USE THAT TIME. IF YOU NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE YOU CAN.
YOU COULD ASK THAT AND WE'LL ASK THE COUNCIL BUT YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. COUNCIL MEMBERS, MAYOR UH, MY NAME IS RENEE PATTERSON 15 79 RINGED OF COURT. FORT WORTH, TEXAS. WHERE I RESIDE IN THE CHADWICK FARMS COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION COMMUNITY , UH, WHICH IS A PART OF OFF THE CLEVELAND GIBBS AREA. UM. WHAT I NOTICED WAS THE IN YOUR TELLING MEETING. YOU HAD AN ADDRESS THAT YOU'RE ADDRESSING THE ISSUE OF ST PETER'S OKAY. I HAVE ADDRESSED THIS ISSUE WITH SEVERAL OF OUR RESIDENTS. I'M AWARD MEMBER BY THE WAY OF THE COMMUNITY. OKAY? AND UM, I ALSO HAVE, UM, WE'RE RETAINING COUNSEL ON EVERY ISSUE THAT WE TALK ABOUT NOW, OKAY? UM. OUR CONCERNS ARE NOT SO MUCH OF THE ANNEXATION PER SE. BUT OF THE ZONING THAT. COULD BE IMPLIED IN THAT DOWN THE ROAD, OKAY? ARE PRISONS HAVE? CAN I HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THAT? AND JUST JUST QUICKLY A QUICK BRIEFING ON OUR COMMUNITY. WE WERE INCORPORATED ON OCTOBER 5TH 2000 AND FIVE KIMBALL HILL WAS THE ORIGINAL DECLARATION. OKAY, THERE ARE NO LONGER THAT WE HAVE A DIFFERENT DECLARATION. NOW, HOWEVER, I AM STILL ONE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS. THE GROWTH IN OUR COMMUNITY IS JUST ASTONISHING AT THIS POINT. EVEN THOUGH WE'RE IN
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FORT WORTH, WE HAVE NOW 735 HOMES. APPROXIMATELY 2200 RESIDENTS OF THIS COMMUNITY. AH WE HAVE COLLEGE DEPARTMENTS, WHICH ARE BEING BUILT ON THE ROAD. ABOUT 400 UNITS, WHICH WILL BE APPROXIMATELY 1000 RESIDENTS. THE AS YOU'RE PROBABLY AWARE OF THE CLAVE BY TAYLOR DUNCAN WILL BE ON CLEVELAND GIBBS, WHICH WILL BE 61 TOWN HOMES, WHICH IS AN ADDITIONAL 150 TO 200 RESIDENTS. THERE'S ADDITIONAL ACREAGE ON CHADWICK PARKWAY AND HIGHWAY 1 14, WHICH IS ZONED RESIDENTIAL. NOW AS WE KNOW UM, CLEVELAND GIBBS ROAD IS THE MAIN CONNECTOR BETWEEN THE ROAD AND HIGHWAY 1 14. OKAY, THERE ARE 24 WAY STOPS. WHICH SPLITS OUR COMMUNITY DIRECTLY IN HALF. OKAY? UM. THE SOME OF THE IN THE SUMMERTIME. THERE ARE PLENTY OF CYCLISTS AND FAMILIES THAT ARE WALKING TO OUR COMMUNITY POOL, WHICH CROSS CLEVELAND GIBBS ALL ALL THE TIME. OKAY? THAT RAISES A FLAG WITH US. OKAY? BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC AND WHATEVER AND OTHER RELATIVE ISSUES. THE. JUST TO GIVE YOU A RECAP OF JUST A CAP. YOU GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF THE FORT WORTH POLICE DEPARTMENT TRAFFIC STATISTICS. THIS IS PER OFFICER TIM GONZALES, WHO WAS R N P O LINDSEY ROAD IN FEBRUARY OF 2021 HAD 68,000 VEHICLES PER MONTH. AFTER THE LINZER ROAD COMPLETION IN FEBRUARY OF 22 THIS YEAR. THERE ARE 89,000 CARS PER MONTH OR VEHICLES PER MONTH ONLY SEE ROAD OKAY? WE HAVE NOT . NO TRAFFIC STUDY HAS BEEN PERFORMED ON CLEVELAND GIVES AS WE KNOW IT AS YET, ALTHOUGH I THINK THEY'RE WORKING ON THAT NOW. OKAY NOW, UM, BASICALLY, I'M TRYING TO KEEP THIS SHORT. THE WE ARE NOT. WE DO ACKNOWLEDGE THE CITY OF FOUR.WITH THIS ANNEXATION. I SPOKE TO CITY OF FORT WORTH ABOUT THIS JUST RECENTLY. AND I CAN.
HONESTLY I WISH WE HAD KNOWN ABOUT THIS EARLIER. OTHERWISE I PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE HERE. BUT WE HAVE THE ORDINANCE, WHICH WE LOOKED AT. SURE YOU'RE AWARE OF THAT. OKAY? OKAY? UM.
UNFORTUNATELY THERE WAS NO STATE LEGISLATURE AND NO STATE LAW. NO LAW IN THE STATE LEGISLATURE THAT SAYS THAT WE HAVE TO BE NOTIFIED OF THAT FROM CITY OF FORT WORTH ACCORDINGLY. UM. OUR COMMUNITY IS NOT ENTIRELY OPPOSED TO THE ANNEXATION. OKAY? OUR CONCERNS ARE OF THE REZONING INTO COMMERCIAL. AND I THINK, AS I RECALL FROM THE STREAM COUNCIL MEMBER, HARDIMAN YOU HAD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THAT, OKAY? UM NOW, WHEN WE NOTICED THIS, I GOT TOGETHER WITH A FEW OF THE RESIDENTS AND WE'RE SPECULATING ON WHY SAINT PETER WOULD BE REQUESTING COMMERCIAL ZONING.
OKAY UH AND BASICALLY, THERE WERE. AND THESE AREN'T CONSPIRACY THEORIES, BUT WE'RE JUST COMING UP WITH WHERE THE CORRECT PARISHIONERS VACATING TO THE DUE TO THE PANDEMIC. UM SO WE'VE WE'VE RUN OVER AT THE TIME A LITTLE BIT. BUT I WANT TO. I WANT TO HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
BUT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO WRAP IT UP PRETTY QUICKLY. DO YOU MIND IF I LET HIM CARRY ON? UNDERSTAND ASK YOU OKAY? JUST YEAH. JUST JUST SUMMARIZE ADAMS FOR US, BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE GETTING SENSING WHERE YOU'RE GOING. BUT WE JUST WANT TO HEAR THE SPECIFIC SO WE UNDERSTAND FOR THE FUTURE ITEMS WE HAVE JUST IN SUMMARY THE GENETIC FARMS COMMUNITY WHERE CONCERNED THAT HAVE ST PETER'S ZONE COMMERCIAL. AND THEY EVENTUALLY DO SELL THEIR PROPERTY.
VIRTUALLY ANY COMMERCIAL ENTITY COULD BRING ADDITIONAL VEHICULAR TRAFFIC INTO CLEVELAND GIBBS AND EXACERBATE ANY SAFETY ISSUES WITH REGARD TO PEDESTRIANS AND CRIME. OUR RESIDENTS ARE HIGHLY CONCERNED ABOUT THIS. AH JUST BASICALLY A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. I'M JUST GOING TO WRAP THIS UP.
UM MAY I ADDRESS THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WITH JUST TWO QUESTIONS? IS IT POSSIBLE, OKAY? WITH REGARD TO THE PROPOSED EXPANSION OF ST PETER'S HAS A NEIGHBORHOOD IMPACT STUDY BEEN PERFORMED, TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION HOW ITS EXPANSION WILL IMPACT THE NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES WITH REGARD TO TRAFFIC, CRIME AND THE ENVIRONMENT. OKAY? DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ANSWERED NOW, BUT SO THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY PROPOSAL TO EXPAND IT YET. IT IS AN EXISTING . WE'VE JUST ANNEXED IT AND WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF DETERMINING THE APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR IT. INSTEAD OF LEAVING IT END ZONE. THAT'S THAT'S ALL WE'RE AT AT THIS POINT, OKAY, RIGHT. AND THE SECOND THING I WOULD I WOULD ASK FROM ON BEHALF FOR COMMUNITY. WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE FOR YOU TO PLACE THIS ON YOUR LIST OF NOTIFICATIONS FOR ANYTHING THAT COMES UP? I THINK WE ARE WITHIN ABOUT 250 FT. OF THAT PROPERTY, WHICH IS IN ST PETER'S RIGHT NOW. YOU JUST HEARD THE TOPIC A
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MINUTE AGO ABOUT THAT VERY SUBJECT, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON WAS IDENTIFICATION DISTANCES FOR, UM, AND THEN WAS HE WAS THAT RIGHT BEFORE YOU CAME IN. MHM YEAH, TOWN DIDN'T COVER THAT RIGHT, BUT OUR MAP IS THAT'S WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT. FOR THE G S SOMETHING LIKE 300 FT FOR FORT WORTH. IS THAT RIGHT? YES. BUT DOESN'T APPLY TO OTHER JURISDICTIONS.HOWEVER LIKE I WAS SAYING, OUR MAP MAY IN FACT ENABLE YOU TO SIGN UP FOR UPDATES ACROSS THE LINES WHICH BE OPEN TO ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC. GREAT, YES. RIGHT, OKAY. ALRIGHT THAT'S ALRIGHT. JUST SO THANK YOU FOR COMING BY THE WAY I APPRECIATE IT STAFF COLONY TIME, BUT CONCERNS YOU HAVE WE ARE NEIGHBORS JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, THOUGH THE AREA ALONG 1 14, FOR INSTANCE, IS ALL INTENDED TO DEVELOP INTO HEAVY COMMERCIAL. SO YOU SHOULD BE ANTICIPATING. A LOT OF STORIES THERE AND A LOT OF TRAFFIC, AND NOW IT'S BEEN THAT WAY FOR A LONG TIME. SO WE DON'T KNOW YET WHEN THAT MIGHT COME, BUT THAT IS ZONED FOR THAT. OBVIOUSLY THIS WOULD BE MUCH SMALLER PROPERTY, BUT IT'S CLOSER, SO I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS. BUT STAY IN TOUCH.
APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, SO ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT? IT IS 6 41 PM AND WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. WHAT ELSE DO WE NEED TO DO ON THIS ON THIS TOPIC? NOW PROVE THE ANNEXATION COUNCIL DISCUSSION. I WOULD ADD THAT, UM ST PETER DID NOT RECOMMEND ZONING. THE TOWN STAFF DID THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE FOR THE TAX BASE AND POTENTIAL. UM FUTURE USE GO AHEAD AND BASED ON THEIR CURRENT USE, SO THEIR CURRENT USE WOULD BE GRANDFATHERED IN, BUT IT WOULD DEFAULTS TO RURAL RESIDENTIAL ZONING. IT'S ONLY ALLOWS CHURCH USE WITH A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT, SO IF THEY WERE TO EXPAND OR CHANGE ANYTHING, THEY WOULD HAVE TO GET A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR THAT. IS THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC INSTITUTIONAL ZONE IN CLASS. THAT THAT'S CORRECT. WE DON'T HAVE WE DON'T HAVE ONE OF THOSE. AND WHAT WAS THIS OPTION TO CREATE ONE THAT WOULD FIT THIS AND ALSO HAVE THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE THERE MAY BE THE INTERESTS OF POSSIBLY DOING LIKE A SCHOOL THERE SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THAT WOULD BE COVERED UNDER COMMERCIAL USE, AND NOT RURAL RESIDENTIAL. SO THAT WAS THAT WAS WHY WE WHAT DO YOU MEAN? THERE'S A INTEREST IN THIS IN DOING A SCHOOL? THERE WAS THE FIRST TIME I'VE HEARD OF THIS. WE'RE LIKE DAYCARE PRIVATE SCHOOL. SIR. ONCE YOU COME UP AND SURE WE'RE IN THE NETWORK ON PART THREE OF THIS, WHICH IS THE ANNEXATION, SO IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR YOU TO COME UP. JUST INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND THEN LET US KNOW ROBERT FROM ST PETER. SO UM, WE ARE IN CONVERSATIONS FOR SOME PARTNERSHIPS. ONE IS WITH THE GREATER NORTHWEST SOCCER ASSOCIATION TO DEVELOP SOME SPORTS FIELDS ON OUR PROPERTY. AND THEN THE OTHER IS WORRYING SOME INITIAL DISCUSSIONS WITH JUBILEE CHARTER ACADEMIES, WHICH IS BASED IN THE SAN ANTONIO VALLEY. ABOUT DOING A CHARTER SCHOOL, PERHAPS ON OUR PROPERTY . WE'RE ALREADY LOOKING AT BUILDING A PRESCHOOL FAMILY LIFE FACILITY TO EXPAND OUR PRESCHOOL. WE HAVE A PRESCHOOL ON HER PROPERTY RIGHT NOW. BUT WE ARE WE ARE. WE WERE LOOKING AT POTENTIAL PARTNERSHIP. WITH THE CHARTER WITH A CHARTER SCHOOL THAT WOULD LEASE OUR FACILITY. WE WOULD USE IT AS WELL. UM AND MAXIMIZE THE SYNERGIES THERE, SO THAT'S THOSE ARE JUST SOME OF OUR VISIONS OR DREAMS OF WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO ON THE PROBLEM ON THE ON THE PROPERTY. YEP. SO OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. THIS TREND. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE FOR US? I THINK THAT'S THAT'S ABOUT IT. COUNCIL YOUR DISCUSSION. I'M JUST CURIOUS AS TO WHY THESE THINGS WEREN'T NOTED IN THE BRIEFING AT HIM. WHENEVER THIS WAS BROUGHT TO A COUNCIL FOR BRIEFING, WE ASKED ALL THESE QUESTIONS. ARE THEY GOING TO USE IT FOR ANYTHING ELSE? THEY COULD CONTINUE TO USE IT, AS IS WHAT'S GOING ON. PROPERTY IS GOING TO BE SOLD AND DEVELOPED. WE WE WEREN'T TOLD ANY OF THIS SEEM TO RECALL. WE TALKED ABOUT THE PRESCHOOL. THAT WAS MENTIONED, WASN'T IT? WE HAVE ALREADY, RIGHT? REALLY? IF YOU. STAND NO TYPICALLY EXPAND. REQUIRE. THEY'RE ALLOWED TO CONTINUE. CURRENTLY STANDS EXPANSION. BUT JUST APPROVAL TO EXPAND, NOT IT WOULDN'T BE. WE
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WOULDN'T BE APPROVING AN ADDITIONAL USE RIGHT? IN YOU ON WHAT THEY ASK. I'M OK, BUT I'M SPECIFICALLY ASKING ABOUT THE EXISTING USES RIGHT NOW. WE WOULD NOT HAVE TO APPROVE ANY ANYMORE USES IF THEY JUST WANTED TO. EXPAND THEIR SCHOOL OR EXPAND WHATEVER IT IS, THEY'RE ALREADY DOING. IF THEY JUST A SPECIFIC AND EXPANSION WOULD REQUIRE APPROVAL FROM YOU, SO CURRENTLY IT WOULD DEFAULT RULE RESIDENTIAL, WHICH REQUIRES A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT, WHICH IS A ZONING PROCESS HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY COUNCIL. THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS TO EXPAND THE CHURCH. AND OR IS THIS PRESCHOOL? I THINK WE'RE RUNNING INTO A SOMATIC PROBLEM HERE EXPAND, NOT CHANGE PRODUCTS OFFERED EXPAND, PHYSICALLY CHANGE THE BUILDING OR THE PROPERTY. TWO DIFFERENT THINGS HAVING SENSE, RIGHT? SO IF HE WANTED TO CHANGE AND AT A SERVICE BUT NOT PHYSICALLY CHANGED. THE BUILDING. WELL, THAT'S NIGHT BY OUR DEFINITION AND EXPANSION, CORRECT LIKE ANY ANY USE THAT THEY WERE TO ADD TO THE PROPERTY WOULD HAVE TO MEET THE ZONING, BUT IF HE DIDN'T PHYSICALLY CHANGE ANYTHING ON THE PROPERTY SO I'M SAYING, RIGHT IF HE VISITED, OKAY, I HAVE A PRESCHOOL, BUT I'M GOING TO ADD ON K THROUGH THREE ONTO MY PRESCHOOL, BUT I DON'T HAVE TO CHANGE ANYTHING IN MY BUILDING HASN'T EXPANDED. THE USE OF USED TO THAT. OKAY TECHNICALLY, THAT WOULD STILL REQUIRED. I DON'T KNOW HOW WE'VE BEEN KNOW FOR SURE THAT'S ALL INTERNAL. YEAH, BUT I WOULD THINK THEY WOULD HAVE TO EXPAND THEIR THEY'RE BUILDING THE ACCOMMODATE, ALL RIGHT. I'M JUST YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING, LIKE THERE'S DIFFERENT WAYS TO WHAT'S THE WORD EXPAND? MEAN CHANGE PRODUCTS OFFERED SERVICES OFFERED VERSUS ACTUALLY NEED A BUILDING PERMIT BUT TECHNICALLY APPLIED TO ANY EXPANSION OF THAT USE. THE USE OF WHAT YOU CARE ABOUT RIGHT EXPANDED AT ALL. AND THAT'S WHEN IT WOULDN'T COME BACK TO YOU. IF WE HAD AN ANNEXED, WHAT COULD THEY DO ON THIS PROPERTY WE HAVEN'T IN NEXT YEAR. WE HAVE APPROVED THE SERVICE PLAN, OKAY? IF THEY'RE IN THE DJ. YEAH. THEY COULD DO THIS AND MORE AND PRETTY MUCH ANYTHING. I DIDN'T ANTICIPATE THIS CONVERSATION, BUT I GUESS I'M I'M HAVING TO STEP BACK FOR A MOMENT NOW AND GO. WHAT'S THE BENEFIT OF BEING ANNEXED THEN INTO NORTH LAKE? SELL ME ON IT. I'M NOT HEARING ANY POSITIVES FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE. AND I CAN ASSURE YOU WE'RE WE'RE STICKING AROUND FOR A LONG TIME, LORD WILLING, SO THERE WON'T BE ANY COMMERCIAL HAPPENING. YEAH. IT'S NOT BEING BEING IN THE JURISDICTION OF ANY JURISDICTION THAT COMES WITH STRINGS ATTACHED . SO IN THAT SENSE IT'S TO YOUR ADVANTAGE TO REMAIN IN THE T. J.HOWEVER BEING PART OF THE TOWN DOES ONE THING FROM A WATER PLAN STANDPOINT, OR WATER RATES ARE HIGHER IN THE T. J. CORRECT. SO YOU GET A DISCOUNT ON YOUR WATER, WHICH THOSE RATES ARE 50% MORE. SO THAT IS THE PRINCIPAL BENEFIT. I BELIEVE PROBABLY ONE OF THE ONLY ONES POLICE PATROL.
YES YOU DO GET THE SERVICES OF THE TOWN YOU'LL BE PAYING FOR POLICE PATROL. UM OF COURSE.
OBVIOUSLY IF THERE'S AN INCIDENT, MUTUAL AID WILL PROBABLY HAVE A FACTOR IN WHO SHOWS UP WILL BE THE CLOSEST RESPONDER GROWN UP FORT WORTH WHO'S EVER THERE OR US, BUT WE WOULD BE THE PRIMARY RESPONDER AND PRIMARY PATROL FOR YOUR AREA . OKAY, UM, BUT THOSE ARE THOSE WOULD BE THE FACTORS, OKAY? I GUESS I APOLOGIZE BECAUSE I JUST ASSUMED, WHICH IS YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DO THAT? THAT THIS WOULD BE A GOOD WE WERE SO HAPPY TO GET OUT OF FORT WORTH.
I GUESS THAT WE WERE JUST LIKE, YEAH, WE GET TO THE NORTH LIKE, UM SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE WHAT THE PROTOCOLS ACTUALLY HAVE TO GET TO MY LEADERSHIP MEETING TONIGHT BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON THIS SOME OTHER THINGS. IS THERE A WAY WE CAN PAUSE THIS PROCESS UNTIL I CIRCLE BACK WITH MY WITH MY TEAM. TO DISCUSS IT, OR IS THAT OR NOT? ASHLEY. YEP. THE MICROPHONE IS NOT VOLUNTARY. YEAH, I'M SORRY, VOLUNTARY PROCESS AND SO IN ORDER FOR THE TOWN TO BE ABLE TO NX. WE HAVE TO HAVE YOUR PETITION AND WE HAVE THAT RIGHT? WE HAVE THAT ON FILES. UM IT'S YOUR CALL, I THINK. OKAY I GUESS MY ASKS WOULD BE IF I COULD PAUSE THE
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PROCESS. OKAY WELL, WE'LL HAVE TO RESCHEDULE THE HEARING. THEN IN ORDER TO DO THIS. NO, YOU'VE ALREADY OPENED AND CLOSED THE HEARING. SO IF YOU WANT TO JUST TABLE THE ITEM THAT THE VOTE ON THE ORDINANCE TO ACTUALLY FULFILL THE ANNEXATION. YOU CAN DO THAT. OKAY AND THEN I'LL CIRCLE BACK, WITHDREW FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION. OKAY ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, PASTOR. SORRY COUNSELOR. ARE YOU GOOD WITH TABLING THE ITEM TO A FUTURE MEETING? DO WE NEED TO VOTE? YES TABLE IT TO A DATE CERTAIN JUST SO WE CAN PRESERVE THAT PUBLIC HEARING. NO MOTION THIS FOR APRIL 14TH. THE NEXT MEETING. IS THAT LONG ENOUGH? THANKS FOR LITTLE EASTER IS APRIL SEVEN.OKAY. ALL RIGHT, SO THAT OUR FIRST MEETING IN MAY WHAT'S THE FIRST MEETING IN MAY? I DON'T HAVE THE CALENDAR IN FRONT OF ME. 12. ALRIGHT SO MOTION TO TABLE THIS ITEM UNTIL MAY 12TH SECOND. HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR HARDIMAN WILL JUST DO THIS BY VOICE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. ALRIGHT. ANY OPPOSED? UNANIMOUSLY ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU, PASTOR.
WATER 50% OFF WATER, THOUGH THAT'S A OH YEAH, FOR A CHURCH THAT CAN I KNOW I PAY THE WATER BILL AT OUR CHURCH TO YES, WE LIKE TO HAVE YOU WE WOULD WE WOULD ALL RIGHT, WE'LL TALK.
THANK YOU. BEFORE WE CLOSE THIS SUBJECT. I JUST HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION FOR MR REDDEN, THE ADJACENT PROPERTY TIDES ON CHADWICK. WHAT'S THAT CURRENTLY ZONED MULTI FAMILY. THAT'S A MIXED USE PLAN DEVELOPMENT IN THAT PART OF THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENTS DESIGNATED FOR MULTI FAMILY TOWN HOMES. OKAY, SO IT WOULD BE GENERALLY PAT HERBAL, IF THAT WAS COMMERCIAL THERE, WHICH MOSTLY SURROUNDING AREAS, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO AT THIS TIME, ACCORDING TO, UH
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UM, AT THIS TIME, WE'RE GOING TO RECONVENE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR A COUPLE MINUTES. DO WE HAVE ANY ACTION ITEMS THAT WE EXPECT TO COME OUT OF TONIGHT? JUST TO GIVE THE PUBLIC A HEADS UP. YEAH YEAH. ALL RIGHT. WE DON'T PLAN TO HAVE ANY ACTION ITEMS WERE ALWAYS RESERVE THE RIGHT TO DO SO UNDER SECTIONS 551071087. IT IS 6 52 PM AND WE WILL RETIRE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. IF WE DON'T SEE YOU WHEN WE COME BACK. THANK YOU SO FOR IT IS IT IS 8 19 PM WE'VE RETURNED FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION WITHOUT ANY* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.