TAKE IT. CENTER TONIGHT. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING. IT IS 5:30 P.M. THIS IS THE NORTH LAKE TOWN 
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COUNCIL MEETING JUNE 9TH 2022. WE HAVE A QUORUM OF COUNCILORS PRESENT. SIX OF THE SEVEN VOTING MEMBERS ARE PRESENT. MAYOR PRO TEM MONTINI IS OUT OF TOWN. LET'S GET STARTED WITH OUR INVOCATION THIS EVENING, PASTOR IF YOU COME UP AND OPENNESS IN PRAYER FEEL FREE TO FIX THAT. 
          MIKE YAHOO! WHAT MAKES YOU THINK I HAVE TO FIX IT? UH, THIS IS FROM PSALM 55 22. IT SAYS CAST YOUR BURDEN ON THE LORD AND HE WILL SUSTAIN YOU. HE WILL NEVER ALLOW THE RIGHTEOUS TO BE MOVED. 
          AND WE PRAY AH LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN US WE THANK YOU FOR THIS GATHERING. LORD WE COME WITH A LOT OF BURDENS. UM WE COME WITH PERSONAL BURDENS. WE COME WITH BURDENS WITH OUR BUSINESS IS THE WORK THAT WE DO. WE KNOW THAT THERE IS UNREST IN THE WORLD AMONG NATIONS. AMONG COMMUNITIES AND SO. LORD LET US JUST LEAVE OUR BURDENS ON YOU. LET US TRUST THEM TO YOU THAT YOU WILL PROVIDE FOR US AND CARE FOR US. LORD, I PRAY YOUR BLESSINGS ON EVERYTHING THAT IS SAID AND DONE THIS EVENING HERE IN THIS PLACE. WE THANK YOU, LORD FOR THE MAYOR FOR THE COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR THE WORKERS OF THE TOWN AND FOR THOSE WHO ARE PRESENT TO SHARE AND TO LISTEN. WE PRAY FOR YOUR WISDOM AND DISCERNMENT OVERALL. THAT IS DONE HERE TONIGHT. UM, PRAY FOR THE LEADERSHIP THAT THIS GREAT TOWN OF NORTH LAKEWOOD CONTINUE TO THRIVE AND DO WELL WITH ITS BUSINESSES AND ALL WHO ARE A PART OF IT. BLESS THIS EVENING, LORD AS WE PLACE IT INTO YOUR CARE. IN JESUS' NAME, I PRAY. AMEN. SPIRED IF YOU'D STAND AND JOIN US FOR THE PLEDGES, PLEASE. IT'S. THE STORY. JUST ONE STATE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR JOINING US ON THAT. WE'LL GET STARTED TONIGHT WITH OUR USUAL AGENDA. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO TAKE ANYTHING OUT OF ORDER THIS EVENING, SO WE'LL FOLLOW ALONG AS DESCRIBED IN THE AGENDA. 
          WE'LL BEGIN WITH THREE BRIEFINGS TONIGHT. WE'VE GOT A COUPLE REPRESENTATIVES HERE FOR THE 
          [2A. Briefing - Johnie Daniel Elementary School - Building Permit Fee Reduction]
FIRST ONE. AND SO WE'LL HEAR FROM THEM IN A LITTLE BIT AS WELL. BUT MR CORN CAN YOU TEAR US UP ON THIS ONE? THIS ONE IS A REQUESTS FROM NORTHWEST SCIENCE D TO CONSIDER A BUILDING PERMIT FEE REDUCTION OFF OUR SCHEDULE TO ASSIST THEM WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OF JOHNNY DANIEL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND PROVIDE A LITTLE RELIEF FOR THEM FOR THAT CONSTRUCTION. MR CORN? YES, SIR. 
          THANK YOU. JUST AS A BACKGROUND WILL GO OVER OUR OUR FISCAL SCHEDULE AND BUT BEFORE WE GET STARTED, THIS IS WITHIN THE COUNCIL'S PURVIEW TO WAVE OR TWO DISCOUNT THESE FEES, BUT. THE CURRENT FEES OR WHAT STAFF HAS TO ENFORCE. AND SO SCHOOL IS A PRETTY COMPLEX BUILDING IS CONSIDERED A COMMERCIAL CONSTRUCTION PROJECT. WE REVIEW THE PLANS, ELECTRICAL PLANS, PLUMBING PLANS MECHANICAL SYSTEMS. AND THEN WE INSPECT AND SO THERE'S A TWO PART PROCESS AND THESE WERE ADOPTED ORIGINALLY IN 99 HAVEN'T CHANGED SINCE. UM THIS IS WHAT WE CALCULATE AS THE PERMIT THESE THEY'RE BASED OFF OF CONSTRUCTION VALUE, AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS TOLD US THAT THIS SCHOOL IS A $30 MILLION PROJECT. AND. AND IT'S SIMILAR TO THEIR PROTOTYPE. THOMPSON SCHOOL SO VERY BEAUTIFUL BUILDING. SO THIS IS A BREAKDOWN OF SOME OF OUR COSTS THAT WE USE THESE FEES FOR. WE DO NOT HAVE BUILDING INSPECTORS ON STAFF, AND SO WE USE SAFE BUILD, SO THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE DOING ALL THOSE VARIOUS INSPECTIONS. 
          HAVE AN ASSOCIATES. THERE MAY BE SOME ENGINEERING OR THERE OFTEN IS SOME ENGINEERING RELATED TO THE PROJECT. AND THEN WE HAVE WE HAVE STAFF. THAT WE NEED TO HAVE PRESENT AND SO, UM THESE ARE THESE ARE ROUGH ESTIMATES ON THESE COSTS, BUT IN EACH PROJECT IS IN VARYING DEGREES OF DIFFICULTY, SO SOME MAY TAKE MORE TIME SOMETIMES MAY TAKE LESS TIME. AND YOU KNOW OUR 
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ISSUE WITH SCHOOLS. IS THERE AN ASSET TO THE COMMUNITY, BUT THEY DON'T PAY ANY TAXES TO THE COMMUNITY. THEY PROVIDE OTHER BENEFITS, AND THEY HAVE THEIR OWN. TAXING SOURCE, AND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THESE THAT WE CANNOT CHARGE THEM. AND THESE ARE IMPACT FEES AND YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH IMPACT FEES. THEY HELP US TO OFFSET THE LARGE BURDEN COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS, ESPECIALLY ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, WILL PUT ON OUR WATER, SEWER AND ROAD SYSTEM AND THOSE AREN'T THOSE AREN'T ETHICAL WOW. WE DID HAVE AN OUTDOOR LEARNING CENTER IN 2015. IT WASN'T QUITE AS AN EXPENSIVE PROJECT AND COSTS ARE GOING UP. UH AND. AND THE MAYOR AND I WERE TALKING. THE YOUNGER LEARNING CENTER IS KIND OF A REGIONAL REGIONAL BUILDING. JOHNNY DANIEL WILL BE SPECIFIC TO NORTH LAKE, SO THERE IS A YOU KNOW, THERE MAY BE SOME DIFFERENCES IN THOSE ON HOW YOU APPROACH YOUR YOUR DECISION ON THESE FEES. WE FEEL LIKE WE'RE KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE HAS WE ARE WITH MOST STUFF. WE'RE BUT BETWEEN KELLER AND HAZLETT. ON OUR FEE SCHEDULE. UM YOU KNOW, AND WE'RE NOT THE MOST EXPENSIVE BUT UM, THERE ARE SOME, ESPECIALLY ON THE ON THE LOWER END THAT HAVE TO BE VERY LOW. BUILDING FEES, AND THEY DO NOT. THEY DO NOT COVER THEIR COSTS, BUT THOSE ARE SUBSIDIZED WITH PROPERTY TAX, ESPECIALLY IN FORT WORTH. THAT'S THEIR WAY OF DOING THAT, AND THIS IS OUR CURRENT METHOD AND YOU KNOW, STAFF IS OPEN TO ANY DIRECTION YOU HAVE FOR US. THE. THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS HERE, PROVIDED YOU VIA EMAIL A LIST OF OTHER FEES AND WE'RE WE'RE ON THE HIGH END OF THOSE OTHER SCHOOLS THEY BUILT IN THE AREA. THEY DON'T BUILD A NUMBER OF SCHOOLS IN THE COUNTY. UM AND SO. THEY'RE CORRECT. OUR FEES ARE HIGH, BUT WE HAVE WE HAVE CHEMICAL OR AND SENATOR STEWART FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND, UH, BACK IN PRINT THAT OUT IF YOU DIDN'T GET THAT EMAIL OF THE COPY OF THE FEES, BUT THEY'RE HERE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS TO. I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON BEHALF OF THE TOWN. COUNCIL YOU ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR COREN BEFORE WE HEAR FROM THE DISTRICT AND WE CAN ALWAYS TALK TO HIM ON THE SIDE AS WELL. LET ME MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THIS. WE WOULD HAVE SOMETHING CLOSE TO $100,000 WORTH. OF COST. IS THAT CORRECT? 70 AND 110 AND 10 THAT WE CAN IDENTIFY? YES. LIKE I SAID, SOME PROJECTS ARE MORE COMPLEX. SOME PROJECTS REQUIRE MORE CALLBACKS. THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS VERY IT'S VERY GOOD AT. BUILDING PER CODE, AND WE DON'T WE DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH THEM. ZERO REQUEST FROM AN ICED TEA. YES, AND THAT IS, I GUESS I'VE MISSED THAT. UH THEY THEY CAN MAKE THAT REQUEST. WE DID GET THIS WAY. IT'S ON THE IT'S. IT'S ONE OF THE IT'S ON THE AGENDA. THEY JUST SAID MITIGATE THE FEE. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY REALLY HAD MITIGATE THE DOLLAR AMOUNT IN MIND. AND THEY CAN DEFINITELY SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES. THEY DID PAY THE PLAN REVIEW FEE. UM, JUST JUST IN. GOOD FAITH AND UNDERSTANDING THAT WE HAVE SOME HARD COST IF WE CAN'T NOT EAT, AND SO THEY HAVE DONE THAT, AND WE'VE BEEN NO DELAY HAS HAPPENED IN THE IN THE PROJECT. WE'RE OBVIOUSLY WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING A SCHOOL IN PECAN SQUARE. I GUESS. ONE THING THAT MY MIND GOES TO IS THIS IS A TAX BUILT. BUILDING A TAX PAID FOR BUILDING AND SO US CHARGING FEES. FOR THIS THAT HAVE PROFIT FOR US A TOWN ALL WE'RE DOING IS TAKING TAXES FROM ONE LOCATION AND PUTTING IT TO A DIFFERENT LOCATION. MEAN AND BY THE SAME TOKEN, OUR STAFF IS PAID BY OTHER TAXPAYERS IN THE TOWN, SO YEAH. BUT WE'RE WE'RE LIVING OFF 29 CENTS. TAXES WHAT'S THE SCHOOL ISSUE? GETTING MORE THAN THAT. THEY'RE THEY'RE HERE. WE REDUCED FEES FOR ANY OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS, AND THAT'S AN IMPORTANT POINT BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BE SETTING A PRECEDENT AND I'M SURE YOU ARE AWARE OF THAT. BUT NOT TO THIS POINT. WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY SCHOOLS IN THE IN THE TOWN LIMIT. THE OTHER SCHOOLS HAVE BEEN IN IN OUR E T. J. SO THEY'VE GONE THROUGH THE COUNTY. SO BEFORE WE GET TOO FAR INTO DISCUSSING WITH THE EXCEPTION OUTDOOR LEARNING CENTER, WHICH I MENTIONED BEFORE WE GET TOO FAR INTO THE PROS AND CONS, I THOUGHT MAYBE WE'D GET 
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THE DISTRICT UP HERE TO TALK TO US ABOUT THEIR NEEDS. AND THEN WE'LL GET BACK INTO THE PROS AND CONCEPT. THAT'S ALRIGHT. OKAY? TIM SARAH, WHOEVER IT'S TIME TO WELCOME. THANK YOU FOR COMING. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. THROUGH. RECORDING THANK YOU. UM FIRST OF ALL, I JUST WANT TO SAY ABOVE ALL ELSE, UM, WE HAVE A GREAT WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH YOUR WITH YOUR STAFF HERE IN THIS AT THE CITY, AND WE ACTUALLY APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH. IN THE TOWN OF NORTH LAKE AND JUST OUTSIDE THE BOUNDARIES OF NORTH WAKE IN THE T. J BY WORKING WITH YOUR STAFF, SO FIRST AND FOREMOST, JUST HATS OFF TO THAT IT IS ONE OF THE STRONGEST RELATIONSHIPS WE HAVE WITH ANY MUNICIPALITY SO REALLY COMMEND STAFF THERE. YEAH WE'RE HERE TO JUST SIMPLY ASK. IS THERE ANY OPPORTUNITY FOR RELIEF? UM MR BOYER BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT. WE ARE AN EQUAL TAXING ENTITY AS YOU WELL KNOW. SO WE'RE TRYING TO MANAGE THE TAXPAYERS DOLLARS JUST LIKE YOU'RE TRYING TO MANAGE THE TAXPAYERS DOLLARS AND FOR US AND THE ACCOUNTABILITY I HAVE TO GIVE BACK TO MY BOARD IS THEY LOOK AT THE SCHEDULE LIKE THIS AND GO. WHY ARE WE PAYING DOUBLE? TO A TOWN WHEN ALL AND THESE ARE THE SAME SCHOOLS THE SHEET THAT YOU SEE IF YOU GOT IT IF YOU DIDN'T GET IT, DREW CITY PUT IT OFF. BUT THIS IS THE EXACT WHAT WE SHOWED YOU THE EXACT SAME PROTOTYPE. THESE ARE NOT DIFFERENT SIZED BUILDINGS. 
          THESE ARE NOT DIFFERENT SCHOOLS. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT LANCE THOMPSON IS. WE BUILT THIS THREE TIMES AND WE HAVE FOUR BEING BUILT RIGHT NOW, ONE OF WHICH IS THE ONE IN PECAN SQUARE. SO WE TRY TO GIVE YOU A VERY FAIR APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISON. NOW. WHAT'S NOT APPLES TO APPLES IS OBVIOUSLY SEVERAL OF THOSE ARE IN THE COUNTY, AND THE COUNTY IS OBVIOUSLY A LOT LESS. 
          IF YOU LOOK AT THE FEES WHAT WE SPEND THERE, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT FORT WORTH AGAIN, NOT APPLES TO APPLES ARE MUCH BIGGER NOW THAT MAY HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF MORE AVAILABILITY TO WORK WITH SCHOOL DISTRICTS. THEN YOU HAVE WE RECOGNIZE THAT BUT IF YOU DO LOOK AT NEWARK WHO IS MUCH SMALLER, THEY ARE OBVIOUSLY ABOUT HALF THAT SIZE AS WELL. AND SO THAT'S THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE IS JUST SIMPLY TO HAVE THE ASK, HAVE THE CONVERSATION AND BE ABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE I UNDERSTAND YOUR REQUEST, SO I APPRECIATE COMING AND SITTING BEFORE US TO GIVE US A CHANCE TO DISCUSS IT. COUNCIL TO GIVE QUESTIONS. WHAT WHEN YOU WHEN YOU SAY YOU BUILT THESE SEVERAL BEFORE, WHAT WAS THE WHAT WAS THE VALUE OF THE LAST ONE YOU BUILT? YEAH THIS IS FUN. SO UH, SO THIS IS AN INTERESTING GAME, THE FIRST ONE WE BUILT OUT AT LANCE THOMPSON THAT THAT PROJECT RIGHT? IT'S ABOUT 26 A HALF MILLION DOLLARS. THE NEXT ONE THAT WE BUILT AFTER THAT, WHICH WAS HASLETT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL ACTUALLY JUMPED UP TO ABOUT $28 MILLION. THE ONE WE OPENED THIS LAST YEAR. ACTUALLY REDUCED A LITTLE BIT IS A LITTLE BIT UNDER ABOUT 27 A HALF. WE WERE HOPEFUL THAT WAS GOOD DESIGN AND THE BID COMMUNITY HAD SEEN IT A COUPLE OF TIMES. SO NOW THAT THINGS ARE GETTING LITTLE BIT TIGHTER, BECAUSE IT IS THE SAME BUILDING. AND THEN COVID HIT AND COST ESCALATION AND SUPPLY CHAIN AND ALL THOSE WONDERFUL THINGS WE'RE DOING IN THE CONSTRUCTION. AND YET THIS THIS IS JUMPED UP, SIZABLY. 
          WHERE SOMEWHERE THE ORIGINAL FEE THAT THEY HAVE UP THERE IS ACTUALLY WHAT WE HAD IN THE BUDGET. UM IT ACTUALLY BID IN AT 36. I THINK 36 IS WHAT THE BID NUMBERS CAME IN AT SO, UM, WE'RE BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL IN GENERAL , TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN MANAGE THE BOND THAT WAS PASSED BY THE COMMUNITY FIRST ONE AND BUILD THESE CAPITAL PROJECTS. UM UNDER THE CURRENT ESCALATING COST OF CONSTRUCTION , WHICH I'M SURE IS NO STRANGER TO YOU ALL EITHER. ALRIGHT CASTLE ANYTHING FURTHER. ALL RIGHT, MR CORNYN, CAN YOU GIVE US UM, GIVE US THE RANGE OF OUR OPTIONS TONIGHT AS TO WHAT YOU NEED FROM US, YOU KNOW, AND I APOLOGIZE. I EMAILED THE BUT I SHOULD HAVE PRINTED OUT. MY BERKSHIRE WAS 19 8000 CARTER WAS IN THE COUNTY'S 20,000 DANIELS, OURS AND THEN WITH THE NEW UH, COST OF CONSTRUCTION. IT'S NOW 191,000. UH HUH. HAZLETT WAS 72,000. HATFIELD 16,000 LANCE THOMPSON. 81.5000 AND SEVEN HILLS 96,000. THE DANGER QUESTION. YOU'RE THE COUNCIL SO YOU CAN WAIVE THEM ALL. YOU CAN NOT WAIVE ANY OF THEM. YOU CAN WAVE HALF OF THEM, AND IT SEEMS LIKE THE BIGGEST VARIANTS ON ALL OF THOSE NUMBERS BECAUSE SOME OF THEM ARE WILDLY DIFFERENT THAN OTHERS IS INSPECTION FEES FOR PLACES THAT HAD IN CITY INSPECTIONS. HATFIELD ONLY $10,000 WORTH OF INSPECTION FEES. BUT IT'S DEFINITELY AN APPLES AND ORANGES $56,000 IN EXPENDITURES IN EVERY GOVERNMENT COSTS THEIR SERVICES DIFFERENTLY . SOME SOME SUBSIDIZE IT WITH OTHER REVENUE SOURCES. SOME HIT YOU MORE ON THE PUBLIC 
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INFRASTRUCTURE SIDE OF IT OR THE FIRE INSPECTION SIDE OF IT, SO IT'S UM BUT IT IS HIGHER THAN EVERYONE ELSE BY ALMOST DOUBLE. SO TAKE A COUPLE OF THINGS AND THAT COME TO MIND ONE. THIS IS BASED ON VALUE AND SO VALUE GOES UP OUR COSTS. OUR COST STRUCTURE ALSO GOES UP WITH THOSE, UM, CORRECT. OUR INSPECTORS VALUES. WHAT ARE OUTSOURCED INSPECTORS ARE BASED. OFF VALUE. YES, SIR. 
          SO THAT'S THE VARIABLE COST THE DIRECT COST US. WE ALSO HAVE TO FIX COST OF OUR ADMINISTRATION INTERNALLY, WHICH WE DO BEAR AS A TOWN. UM THAT WE HAVE TO COVER AND SO THERE IS THAT COMPONENT THAT WE YOU KNOW, A LITTLE UNCERTAIN AS TO HOW MUCH TIME AND ENERGY THAT WOULD REQUIRE. 
          THERE IS THE PRECEDENT SETTING. SO THIS IS THE FIRST SCHOOL BUT WE CAN ANTICIPATE PROBABLY ANOTHER ELEMENTARY, MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL EVENTUALLY HERE. AND SO, PARTICULARLY WITH NORTHWEST , I WOULD EXPECT US TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION AGAIN IF YOU CHOOSE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A REDUCTION , SO IF YOU CHOOSE TO CONSIDER REDUCTION YOU CAN CHOOSE TO CONSIDER REDUCTION IN DOLLARS, YOU CAN CHOOSE TO CONSIDER REDUCTION IN PERCENTAGE AS A PERCENTAGE OF THE TOTAL FEE. YOU WOULD PROBABLY BE SETTING A PRECEDENT THAT POINT THAT WOULD BE CALLED UPON IN THE FUTURE. UM AND THEN THERE ARE THE YOU KNOW , THERE'S SOME VARIABLE HERE BETWEEN, UM YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY ARE DIRECT AND FIXED COSTS AND THE TOTAL COST OF THE FEES. THERE DOES GO TO YOU KNOW THAT THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY DOES GET SPENT. SO THAT WILL BE BORN BY OTHER PROJECTS COVERING THAT OR , YOU KNOW, WE DON'T EXPECT THAT TO BE COVERED BY TAXES. DEVELOPMENT COVERS DEVELOPMENT IN OUR TOWN. BUT IT'S A DOLLAR OUT IS COVERED BY A DOLLAR SOMEWHERE ELSE BECAUSE WE DO SPEND WE SPEND OUR BUDGETS IN THIS BUDGET DOES GET SPENT. SO THAT'S THE THOUGHTS I HAVE FOR YOU. UM OBVIOUSLY, EVERY ENTITY IS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO SAVE COSTS. AND YES, IT DOES COME. IT'S BECOMING OUT OF ONE POCKET INSTEAD OF THE OTHER. BOTH ARE TEXTURAL SHINS. SO AT THE END OF THE DAY THERE ISN'T ANY TRUE SAVINGS HERE. IT'S JUST WHICH POCKET ARE WE SAYING? WE WANTED TO COME OUT OF? AND WHAT PRESIDENT DOES THAT SAY? SO WE HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP. SO THAT'S WORTH SOMETHING. YEAH PRETTY GOOD COUNSELORS. WE NEED TO GET SOME GUIDANCE TO STAFF AND ASHLEY WERE NOT TAKING AN ACTION HERE. SO HOW DOES THIS WORK? RIGHT THIS WITH THOSE COME BACK TO US FOR FORMALIZING THE CHANGE, OR IS THIS JUST AN AUTHORIZATION WE CAN PROVIDE IF WE CHOOSE TO CHANGE IT. I THINK YOU JUST AUTHORIZED STAFF TOO. IT IN LINE WITH YOUR DIRECTION. 
          YOU CAN DO THAT, BY MOST YOU KNOW? OR ANYTHING, BUT JUST TAKE A POLL. YEAH, OKAY. FOR STAFF. 
          IT'LL BE REFLECTED IN THE MINUTES AND IT IT'S THE TOWN'S CALLED SO OKAY, DEATH. ALRIGHT. 
          SO HERE DISCUSSION YOUR THOUGHTS GOOD. I'M NOT. I'M NOT INTERESTED IN MOVING TAX MONEY AROUND. BUT I DON'T WANT US TO LOSE MONEY, EITHER. SO WHATEVER THAT MEANS. TRUE WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO SORT OUT HOW MUCH THIS COST US? YES, EXACTLY. UM OR COME UP WITH A SIMPLE FORMULA THAT CAN BE APPLIED IN THE FUTURE. WELL, AND THAT'S ANOTHER THING. I MEAN, YOU COULD DIRECT ME ON THIS ONE. BUT I WOULD LIKE SOME GUIDANCE IN THE FUTURE. I THINK A PERCENTAGE WOULD BE HELPFUL. WE DO THIS WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS, BUT OF COURSE WE GET PROPERTY TAX ON THE BACK END IN PERPETUITY, BUT WE GET A WONDERFUL SCHOOLS IN PERPETUITY . SO UM, YOU KNOW OUR TYPICAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FEE WAIVER FOR BUILDING PERMITS AND INSPECTIONS 50% YOU'RE ALL AWARE OF THAT YOU'VE APPROVED A NUMBER OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. 
          AGREEMENTS SO THAT THAT MAY BE A STARTING POINT. WANT TO ADD SOMETHING ON THAT POINT. UM OUR POSITION IS THAT IT COSTS THE TOWN 100% OF THE FEES WERE CHARGING. AND WE HAVE TO DO THAT. WE CAN'T MAKE MONEY OFF FEES BY LAW. SO NOW YOU HAVE THE AUTHORITY AND THE ABILITY TO CUT THEM IN HALF FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT 50% OR FOR THE SCHOOL, YOU KNOW. THE ENTITY THAT'S ASKING FOR IT. BUT. OUR POSITION IS AND IT NEEDS TO STAY THAT THAT 100% OF THAT IS WHAT IT COSTS THE TOWN TO ACTUALLY REVIEW THESE THESE PLACE. WHICH IT IS AN AGGREGATE BECAUSE, AS I SAID, A MOMENT AGO, OUR DEVELOPMENT FEES COVER OUR DEVELOPMENT COSTS INCLUDES STAFF , TIME AND THINGS THAT ARE HARDER TO CALCULATE. SALARIES AND BENEFITS AND ALL OF THAT, SO ATTORNEYS RIGHT ENGINEERS? YES. ALL OF US? YEAH. MY FEAR IS, IF WE DO IT ONCE WE WILL BE DOING 
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IT FOUR MORE TIMES. SCHOOLS COME IN, SO NOT. TWO LEERY ABOUT IT. LITTLE AREA ABOUT IT TO BE HONEST. OTHERS. AND WILLIAM. ALRIGHT WE GOTTA GET A CONSENSUS . SO WHERE ARE WE GOING TO START? ARE YOU YOU'RE SAYING NO CHANGE? YOU'RE SAYING SOMETHING UNDETERMINED? I'M OKAY WITH 75 ON THIS 75% AS A STANDARD FOR SCHOOL RELATIONSHIP. WE DO NEGOTIATE WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. THE SCHOOLS, THIS ONE IN PARTICULAR, WHILE IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT WHEN WE COME TO THE HIGH SCHOOL, WHICH SERVES A LOT OF COMMUNITIES, BUT THIS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IS EXCLUSIVELY NORTHLAKE. AND SO FOR THAT REASON PERHAPS ON THAT PRINCIPLE WHEN WE COME TO FUTURE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT MIDDLE AND HIGH, I THINK 75 ON THIS BECAUSE OF THE ESCALATING COSTS. I BELIEVE WE CAN COVER WHAT WE NEED TO HEAR. SO I'M I'M OKAY AT THAT RANGE, BUT WHO GETS 75 WHO GETS 25? NEGOTIATING WITH ME. I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT 50, AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE TO. 
          THANKS. TRUE THAT WAS EASY. I COULD FIGURE THAT ONE OUT 75% OF THE FEE WE WOULD COLLECT SO 25% DISCOUNT. AND YOU'RE AT ZERO. SO WHERE YOU AT ROBERT? UM, I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT WHICH ONE 75 HEY , YOU GUYS, YOU GOT A 0 TO 75. WITH WHERE ARE YOU AT? I THINK THAT'S FAIR. I MEAN, WE GOTTA COME UP WITH SOME TYPE OF FORMULA THAT'S EASILY TOO. 75, OKAY? WHERE YOU AT? I DO WANNA ENCOURAGE THE SCHOOL SO. WELL THAT OFFSETS 75. NO IT'S GOT 0 50 50 50 OR 77, SAMUEL 54 1 AND ONE IS THAT ENOUGH DIRECTION. YES SIR. OKAY IT'S 25% OF WHATEVER IS CALCULATED. IS THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION COSTS OF THE BUILDING. CORRECT SO THAT THAT'S ESCALATED FINAL FEE ON THE TIM IS RIGHT. THIS WAS THIS WAS AN EARLY ESTIMATE. ESTIMATE OKAY. ALRIGHT SO 25% OF THE FINAL CALCULATED FEE. YES. FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND ABSOLUTELY WE KNOW THAT THIS DOESN'T CLOSE THE CONVERSATION FOR MOVING FORWARD. ENCOURAGE THE TOWN TO DESIGNATE THAT YOU'RE DOING THIS FOR A PUBLIC SCHOOL ENTITY. THERE MAY BE OTHER SCHOOLS THAT POP UP THAT WANTS SOMETHING SIMILAR THAT ARE NON TAXING ENTITY. AND SO I MIGHT ENCOURAGE THAT YOU HAD THAT INTO THE RECOMMENDATION. WHAT'S THAT? I'M GONNA CHANGE MY ANSWER AND ASK THAT YOU DO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO DO THAT, SINCE YOU ARE WAITING IN THE RECORD. SO MOTION THAT WE. 
          LET'S SEE. WE MOTION THAT WE REDUCE THE FEES FOR PUBLIC SCHOOL ENTITIES BY 25% RIGHT. 
          CONSIDER IT OF WHETHER THEY'RE SERVING THE TOWN OF NORTH LAKE OR OTHER ENTITIES IN THE FUTURE. 
          BUT FOR THIS 1 25% REDUCTION CONSIDERATION AND WE DON'T HAVE THE VOTES SET UP FOR THIS. SO THIS WILL GLOBALIZING VERBAL. THAT'S EMOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? I HAVE A SECOND WILL STILL REMAIN IN THE SAME VOTES. ALL RIGHT. GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SECOND 
          [2B. Briefing - Fireworks Ordinance Update ]
BRIEFING, SO WE HAD A REQUEST FROM COUNSELOR TO REVIEW OUR FIREWORKS ORDINANCE AS WE COME UP FOR FOURTH OF JULY. IT'S SOMETHING WE TALK ABOUT EVERY YEAR. NEW YOU ARE. CURRENT POLICY IS NEW YEAR'S AND JULY 4TH. AND ONLY IF THERE'S NO BURN BAND, BUT IT'S BEEN ASKED TO REVIEW THAT STANDARD, COMMUNICATED TO THE PUBLIC AND OR CONSIDER IT FOR CHANGES IF NECESSARY. SO CHIEF GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THIS, PLEASE, EVENING , MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS AS YOU CAN SEE OUR COUNCIL GOALS. DO WHAT YOU ASKED US TO DO. AND SO A LITTLE BIT OF THE BACKGROUND IN JUNE 28TH 2018. WE HAD PROVED FIREWORKS TO BE ADOPTED IN IN THE TOWN OF NORTH AND WHERE WE ALLOW FIREWORKS ON CERTAIN DAYS. JULY 4TH IN DECEMBER. 31ST THOSE TIMES ARE LIMITED TO SIX P.M. TO 11 59. PM ON THOSE DAYS AND THERE ARE SOME PROHIBITIONS AND SOME EXCEPTIONS AS WELL. SO THE PROHIBITIONS THAT WOULD BE UNLAWFUL FOR ANY PERSON TO SELL OR OFFER TO SELL OR UNLAWFULLY POSSESS WITH INTENT TO AND YOU CAN READ THE REST FOR YOURSELVES ON ON THOSE DAYS THAT ARE NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE EXCEPTIONS ARE TOY PISTOLS. GUNS CAME IN SO CAPS AND THINGS LIKE THAT THEY HAVE 0.25 G OR LESS OF EXPLOSIVES. ALSO ANY EQUIPMENT THAT WE MIGHT 
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USE IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OR STANDARD MOTORS. SHE'S FLARES. OR PEOPLE THAT ARE AUTHORIZED TO CARRY FIREWORKS THROUGH THE TOWN FOR DELIVERIES. THE USE OF 1.4 G CONSUMER FIREWORKS. THAT'S WHAT THE WIND FORWARD G STANDS FOR JUST CONSUMER FIREWORKS. SO YOU HAVE TO BE SOMEONE WHO IS 18 YEARS OR OLDER ON PROPERTY. IT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY. ONLY ON THE JULY 4TH OF DECEMBER 31ST. 
          BETWEEN THOSE TIME FRAMES WE DISCUSSED OR DEBRIS HAS TO BE PICKED UP BY NOON THE NEXT DAY. 
          AND NO BURN BAN IN PLACE. SO ARE POLICE RESPONSE FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS 2019 TO 21. WE HAD SEVEN FIREWORKS CALLS IN 2019. TWO OF THOSE WERE IN HARVESTING DRAPER. SO WE HAVE NO AUTHORITY OVER THE FIREWORKS IN THEIR DISTRICTS BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT ACTUALLY IN THE TOWN AND WE CAN'T ENFORCE OUR ORDINANCES AND THERE IN THAT AREA. TOUR WITHIN THE SCOPE OF THE ORDINANCE, SO THEY COMPLIED WITH THE ORDINANCE IN THREE WE'RE OUT OF OUTSIDE THAT. 2020 WE DOUBLED TO 15 A LITTLE OVER DOUBLE FIVE AND HARVEST FIVE WITHIN SCOPE AND FORWARD OUT OF COMPLIANCE. THEN 2021. WE WENT UP ANOTHER SEVEN OR SO. SO 21. AND WE HAD 11 OUT OF THE COMPLIANCE. SO WITH A. WE TRY TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC AS MUCH AS WE CAN. WHEN WE GO OUT ON FIREWORKS CALLS. WE TELL THEM WE DO HAVE AN ORDINANCE. WE CAN'T FIRE FIREWORKS OFF DURING THESE DAYS OR ONLY THESE DAYS, BUT BETWEEN THESE TIMES REDUCE SOCIAL MEDIA BLAST. WE GIVE WARNINGS WE HAVEN'T ISSUED ANY CITATIONS FOR FIREWORKS, AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS BECAUSE BY THE TIME WE GET THERE, THEY'RE NOT DOING ANYMORE. WE DON'T SEE HIM DOING IT SO WE CAN'T ISSUE A CITATION TO SOMEONE WHO CAN. SEE THEM ACTUALLY COMMITTING THE CRIME. UM ANY OTHER THING IS, PEOPLE SAY, WELL, CAN'T YOU SIGNED FOR LITTERING ACCORDING TO OUR AUDIENCE NO BECAUSE THEY HAD TOLD NOON THE NEXT DAY TO DO IT. TO PICK UP THE DEBRIS. ALSO WE'RE NOT FIRE. EX WORKS EXPERTS . WE DON'T WE DON'T KNOW WHEN SOMETHING'S EXPLODED. WE DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A BOTTLE ROCKET. IF THERE'S A ROMAN CANDLE IF IT WAS FIRECRACKERS, WE CAN'T TELL WHAT IT WAS AT SOME POINT. AND WE CAN'T SEIZE THE FIREWORKS ARE ORDINANCES SAYS WE CAN SEE THEM BECAUSE WE CAN'T PUT EXPLOSIVES IN OUR PROPERTY ROOM. I DON'T WANT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BURNING DOWN AND I DON'T WANT YOU KNOW THE FIRE TO BE CAUSED OVER THERE. BUT AND ALSO ON THAT, YOU KNOW THE IF WE SEIZE THE FIREWORKS, THEY HAVE A RIGHT FOR DUE PROCESS FOR THE CITATION AS WELL. IF WE DO ENTER ISSUE A CITATION AND IT WAS IN OUR SOCIETY. THEY HAVE 30 DAYS TO GO TO THE DISTRICT COURT AND THINGS LIKE THAT WELL, OR WE CAN DESTROY HIM. WHOA THE WAY THE COURT SYSTEM IS, IT'S GOING TO TAKE LONGER THAN 30 DAYS TO DO THIS. I DON'T WANT TO TAKE SOMEBODY'S PROPERTY. THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE PAID HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS FOR AND WE DESTROY IT. AND THEN THEY WERE FOUND NOT GUILTY, SO WE'RE GOING TO REIMBURSE THEM FOR THEIR PROPERTY THAT WE DESTROYED. I MEAN, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE TO LOOK OUT FOR. AND I THINK THAT'S IT. OUR COUNSELORS SINCE THIS WAS REQUESTED FOR CONSIDERATION. UM YOU KNOW YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE CHIEF. WHAT WHAT IS IT THAT YOU'D LIKE TO DO WITH THIS? THERE WASN'T GUIDANCE GIVEN TO US IS WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH THIS. SO THE BRIEFINGS HERE FOR TO DISCUSS IT AND TO WEIGH IN ON WHAT YOU'D RATHER SEE. SEE, WE HAVE A BURN BAND PROHIBITION. BUT WHAT ABOUT HIGHWAY? UNLESS IT'S ISSUED BY THE COUNTY. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING YOU DO ABOUT HIGH WIND. WE HAD SHOULDER. WE HAVE MHM. MASTER. FIRST YEAR. 
          INDIVIDUAL I THINK THURSDAY THEY WERE SHOOTING UP VIRUS ON THIS. SIX. IN JULY. GUESTS. OKAY? RIGHT NOW. YOU KNOW WHEN SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAPPENS, YOU KNOW, ARSON IS A CHARGE AS WELL. 
          YOU COULD BE. YOU COULD BE CHARGED FOR ARSON. IF YOU YOU KNOW YOU'RE STUDYING ON FIREWORKS. AND YOU KNOW IT'S IN A DANGEROUS AREA. AND IN THIS KITCHEN SOMETHING ON FIRE. I MEAN, EVEN IF YOU'RE BURNINGRED ARSONS. UM, BUT WE JUST HAVE TO PROVE THAT THAT UP AND ALSO FIND OUT WHO DID IT. THAT'S THE THAT'S THE HARDEST PART, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO FIREWORKS, BECAUSE USUALLY PEOPLE WILL LIKE THEM OFF AND LEAVE SOMEPLACE. SO YOU SAID THAT ONE WAS ON JULY 6TH. SO THAT'S ILLEGAL TO BEGIN WITH. THE ORDINANCE DIDN'T COUNTIES BURN BAND WEBSITE STATES WINDS ARE TOO HIGH. YOU CAN'T BURN LIKE IT. IT TAKES INTO ACCOUNT THE WINDS THAT DAY AND THEY HAVE TO YOU KNOW, PUT THAT IN PLACE TO BURN BAN. HAVE WE EVER HAD AND DANGEROUS SITUATION CREATED ON INSIDE THE SCOPE OF LEGAL TIME? NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF. NO HOUSE FIRE. NO PASTOR FIRE ACTUALLY, DURING OUR LEGAL COMPONENT. I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, EVEN IF WE OUTLAWED IT DURING ALL YEAR. YOU CAN'T STOP PEOPLE GOING TO SHOOT THEM WHENEVER 
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THEY GET THE URGE TO SHOOT HIM. OTHER THAN THAT THE COMPLAINTS HAVE BEEN AS A RESULT OF ANNOYANCE, OKAY? WE USUALLY STAFF UP. ON THOSE. WE USUALLY PUT TWO OR THREE EXTRA OFFICERS ON DUTY, AND WE'LL TRY TO HIT THE NEIGHBORHOODS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. KENYA FALLS IS PROBABLY THE ONE THAT WE VISIT THE MOST. HMM. DO YOU FEEL LIKE SINCE 2000 AND 18. YOU'VE NEEDED MORE OFFICERS, SINCE IT'S BECOME LEGAL OR OR IT DOESN'T MATTER LIKE YOU'RE GOING TO COMPLAIN EITHER WAY, EVEN WHEN WE DIDN'T HAVE THE ORDINANCE IN PLACE. WE STILL STAFFED UP FOR EXTRA OFFICERS BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SHOOT HIM. ANYWAY, SO WE ALWAYS JUST STEPPED STAFFS EXTRA STAFF ONE IF I COULD HAVE A MAGIC WISH I WOULD WISH THAT PEOPLE WOULD BE A LITTLE SMARTER ABOUT TO BURN BANDS. BECAUSE YOU KNOW, I DON'T CARE ABOUT WHETHER I'M HEARING FIREWORKS OR NOT. I DON'T CARE IF MY DOGS ARE HEARING FIREWORKS, BUT I DON'T LIKE THAT. MY NEIGHBORS. FIRING ROMAN CANDLES UP INTO THE AIR WHEN IT HADN'T RAINED IN TWO WEEKS. EVERY IF SO, I KNOW THAT OUR ANNOUNCEMENTS ARE GOING TO HAVE THE LINK TO THE BURN BAND. BUT IF A BURN BAN IS IN PLACE, DO WE PUT OUT A SPECIFIC POST SAYS BURN. BAN IN PLACE. NO FIREWORKS TONIGHT. YES. OKAY? RIGHT SO AT LEAST WE'RE PUTTING THE WORD OUT THAT IF IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE TO SHOOT, WE'RE LETTING PEOPLE KNOW THERE AT LEAST SOME OF OUR CHANNELS. YEAH, SHE'S BEEN THREE OR FOUR YEARS. THREE. FOUR YEARS. I THINK ONE OF THE FOUR YEARS THERE WAS A BURN BAN. DO YOU KNOW OF ANY PLACE IN THE GENERAL VICINITY THAT HAS HAD FIREWORKS CAUSE A LIFE THREATENING SITUATION. IN ARTICLE SEVERAL COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WHERE IT IS IN A CITY LAUREN COLE, WHERE IT WAS, BUT THE NEIGHBORS WERE SHOOTING OFF FIREWORKS AND WIN INSIDE THE GUY'S GARAGE, THE NEIGHBOR'S GARAGE AND HE WAS WORKING ON HIS LAWN MOWER AND CUT THE GARAGE ON FIRE, BURNING HIS GARAGE AND TWO CARS RIDICULOUSLY FREAK OCCURRENCE. BUT AS FAR AS FIREWORKS, SETTING A HOUSE ON FIRE BY FALLING ON AN ASPHALT ROOF. I DON'T KNOW OF ANY AND IT'S POSSIBLE IT COULD HAPPEN. CONCERNS I'VE HEARD REPORTED OR MORE ABOUT THE NOISE AFFECTING DOGS AND HORSES. AND I FEEL LIKE WE'VE HEARD ABOUT A FEW SITUATIONS. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'VE BEEN REPORTED OF ANIMALS HURT BECAUSE THEY GOT, UM, REALLY SCARED. IT HAS BEEN REPORTED. I'VE NEVER HEARD OF ANY ANIMALS BEING HURT, AND NOW WE'VE HAD SOME RESIDENTS SAYS THAT IF IT AFFECTS THEIR ANIMALS SPOKE SOME THAT DIRECT, NEVER HEARD OF ANYBODY. THE ACTUAL ANIMAL GETTING HURT FROM IT. OR SO THEY HAVEN'T REPORTED THAT OKAY? NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF. ALL RIGHT? WHAT WOULD YOU GOOD, ROBERT. I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY. THE PROXIMITY OF THE HOMES UM AND THE HOMEOWNERS CHOICE TO WATER OR NOT WATER, THEIR GRASS . THE FIREWORKS GOING FROM ONE YARD THE NEXT CAN DEFINITELY CAUSE PROPERTY DAMAGE. IN A PRIOR LIFE AT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, AND WE DEFINITELY WENT ON LOTS OF FIREWORKS CALLS WHERE YARDS WERE BURNT UP TO THE HOUSE OR INTO THE HOUSE. I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION. I AGREE. AND I BELIEVE NORTH LAKE IS ONE OF THE ONLY TOWNS IN THIS AREA THAT HAS WHERE THEY ALLOW FIREWORKS. OUR COUNSELORS. WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO? IF ANYTHING, THIS IS OUR ORDINANCES IN PLACE. IT HAS THESE SAFEGUARDS COMMUNICATIONS , LIMITED SCOPE AND TIED TO THE BURN BAND. THERE WERE A LOT OF CONSIDERATIONS GIVEN WHEN THIS HAS PASSED. AIRPORT TENDS NOT HERE TONIGHT. HE WAS PART OF VOTING FOR THAT. SCANS WERE YOU HERE WHEN THAT VOTE WAS? NO, YOU WEREN'T HERE FOR THAT VOTE. MR SESSIONS YOU WERE HERE DURING THAT TIME. I GUESS YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE THAT'S HERE. THAT WAS AT THAT TIME. WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT IT. I WOULD I WOULD EITHER HAVE OUTLAWED THEM OR LET US HAVE EVEN MORE DAYS, BUT PEOPLE NEED TO BE SMARTER ABOUT TO BURN BAN. THAT'S ONE THING WE CAN'T CONTROL. WOULD LIKE TO SEE US AT A WIND PROHIBITION. THE COUNTY HAS A BURN VALVE BRUSH. IT'S A WINDY DAY. I KNOW I THINK HE'S ROGERSON. SOME CONVERSATIONS. WE CAN ADD A WIND PROHIBITION. THE COUNTY HAS A WIND ADVISOR. IF THEY HAVE A HIGH WIND AND THE INSTITUTE THE BURNING MAN, SO THAT'S PART OF THE CALCULATION OF THEIR BURN BAND BEGIN WITH. I THINK IT IS SO THAT'S THAT'S PART OF HOW THEY DETERMINE IF THERE IS A BAN IS THE RISKY CONDITIONS, SO I DO BELIEVE THAT'S COVERED BY THEIR ANNOUNCEMENT ON A BURN BAND, BUT IF THAT'S NOT SUFFICIENT, AND 
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LOOK FOR SOMETHING ELSE. ALRIGHT. ANY ACTION AT ALL THEN? WAIT AND SEE AND. WE HAVE ANYTHING TO REPORT BACK AFTER JULY, 4TH. OKAY? CORRECT. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT SO WE'VE GOT 
          [2C. Briefing - Schools in Large Lot residential Zoning Districts (RR, CRO and RE)]
ANOTHER BRIEFING. THIS ONE IS ALSO REQUEST BY ONE OF THE COUNSELORS RELATES TO SCHOOLS IN LARGE LOTS, RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT, SO I'M GONNA LET STAFF TAKE CARE OF EXPLAINING THIS ONE AND ALSO THE BRIEFING FROM THE PNC CASPIAN SEA. GOT A CHANCE TO HEAR ABOUT THIS FIRST. UM MR ED AND TELL US WHAT WHAT'S GOING ON HERE? THANK YOU, MAYOR. UH AND THIS IS UNRELATED TO THE OTHER SCHOOL ITEM THAT WAS ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT, BUT THIS IS JUST SOMETHING. BUT IT HAS COME TO STAFF'S ATTENTION. AS WE'VE BEEN GROWING. THERE'S BEEN MORE OF A NEED FOR SCHOOL. AND REALIZING IF THERE'S MORE SCHOOLS NEEDED, AND THEY'RE NOT PLANNED WITHIN A DEVELOPMENT, THE AREAS THAT ARE UNDEVELOPED OR PRIMARILY ZONED RURAL RESIDENTIAL CURRENTLY SO WE JUST WANTED TO LOOK AT HOW THOSE ARE ALLOWED AND. WHETHER WE WANT TO MAKE SOME CHANGES WITH THAT SO PUBLIC SCHOOLS PUBLIC SCHOOLS. ARE PERMITTED USE IN ALL OF OUR RESIDENTIAL ZONE EXISTS TRICKS, AND THIS INCLUDES RURAL RESIDENTIAL OR FAVORITE FAVORITE GIRL LOTS AND THE ROYAL ESTATE OR ONE ACRE LOTS AS WELL. UM THE TEXAS SUPREME COURT HAS SAID THAT MUNICIPALITIES CANNOT PROHIBIT PUBLIC SCHOOLS FROM RESIDENTIAL AREAS. BUT OTHER CASE LAW SAYS THAT YOU CAN'T APPLY REASONABLE RESTRICTIONS AND CONDITIONS. AN EXAMPLE OF THIS WOULD BE PROVIDING THAT THEY GO THROUGH A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT PROCESS. NEXT SLIDE. RIGHT SCHOOLS TYPICALLY FIT WELL AND A RESIDENTIAL ENVIRONMENT, BUT THAT'S MORE YOUR TRADITIONAL HIGHER DENSITY NEIGHBORHOOD SCHOOL, ESPECIALLY ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, WHERE STUDENTS CAN WALK THERE AND WALKABLE ENVIRONMENT. 
          IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT WHEN YOU GET IN THESE LARGER LOT AREAS. UM ALSO, THERE'S THE GOAL OF THE PLAN AND GOAL OF THE COUNCIL THAT THESE AREAS PRESERVE LARGE OPEN SPACES AND REDUCED DENSITY AND GIANT BUILDINGS LIKE THE SCHOOLS TYPICALLY ARE DON'T REALLY FIT IN WITH THAT AS MUCH SO THERE'S SPECIAL CONSIDERATIONS THAT WOULD PROBABLY WANT TO CONSIDER UH, AND HOW THEY AFFECT ADJACENT RESIDENCES. SO SOME THINGS SOME OF THESE COULD INCLUDE TRAFFIC, THE LACK OF PEDESTRIAN ACCESS AND CONNECTIVITY. AH SETBACK DISTANCES. YOU MIGHT WANT TO INCREASE THAT FOR SCHOOLS AND THESE AREAS AND THE IMPACT OF KIND OF NUISANCE ISSUES LIKE LIGHTING AND NOISE. SO BEFORE WE GET TO SOME OPTIONS FOR HOW TO DEAL WITH THIS ON THE SHOW YOU THIS IS OUR CURRENT PERMITTED USE TABLE. SEWING RURAL RESIDENTIAL, THE CONSERVATION, RESIDENTIAL OVERLAY AND RULES STATE. THE PIECE STANDS FOR PERMITTED USE IF THERE'S A P NEXT TO THAT, AS PERMITTED BY RIGHT SO YOU SEE, THAT'S HOW. PUBLIC PRIMARY AND SECONDARY SCHOOLS, AS WELL AS WELL AS PUBLIC COLLEGE AND TRADE. SCHOOLS ARE ALLOWED BY RIGHTS IN ALL OF THESE DISTRICTS, SO THEY JUST HAVE TO MEET THE MINIMUM STANDARDS OF THE ZONING DISTRICT, AND THERE WOULD BE ALLOWED TO DEVELOP THEIR UM. IF THERE IS A S THAT STANDS FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT, THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT EXTRA STEP OF SPECIFIC USE PERMIT PROCESS THAT'S VERY SIMILAR TO ZONING. AND UM, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE WITH THIS NEXT SLIDE. YOU ALSO SEE ON THAT PERMITTED USE TABLE SOME SIMILAR USES. WE'VE ALREADY CONSIDERED SOME PRIVATE TYPES OF SCHOOLS THAT EITHER AREN'T ALLOWED. OR REQUIRE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT AS WELL. NOW THE NEXT SLIDE. SO HERE'S SOME OPTIONS THAT YOU CAN CONSIDER FOR HOW TO DEAL WITH SCHOOLS, POTENTIALLY IN THESE LARGE LOT RESIDENTIAL AREAS. YOU COULD DO NOTHING. THERE'S A PERMITTED USE THAT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE, BUT AS I STATED, THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED. THEY'RE ALL THEY'D HAVE TO DO IS MEET THE MINIMUM ZONING STANDARDS. YOU COULD ALLOW FOR A USE ALLOW THE USE OF PUBLIC SCHOOLS WITH APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT. SO THE ADVANTAGE OF THIS 
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IS YOU CAN ADD EXTRA CONDITIONS THAT THEY HAVE TO MEET. AND MAKE IT FIT APPROPRIATELY ON THAT SITE AND DEAL WITH SOME OF THE ISSUES OF IT BEING ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL THE PROCESS IS REALLY EXACTLY THE SAME AS A ZONING CHANGE ITS YOU'LL HAVE NOTICES PUBLIC HEARINGS BEFORE P AND Z, WHO WILL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION AND FINAL APPROVAL BY TOWN COUNCIL. AND THEN ONE OTHER OPTION IS THIS HAS BEEN DISCUSSED IN THE PAST AND WAS KIND OF A RESULT OF OUR PLAN. IS TO CREATE A AG ZONING DISTRICT FOR UNDEVELOPED AREAS IN THE THAT ARE CURRENTLY ZONED RURAL RESIDENTIAL. SO THIS WOULD BE NOT THOSE SUBDIVISIONS THAT HAVE BEEN DIVIDED OUT INTO 5 TO 10 ACRE LOTS, BUT THOSE LARGER TRACKS THAT ARE UNDEVELOPED. UMS OWNING THAT WOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED RESIDENTIAL SCHOOLS COULD BE PROHIBITED. AND. IF A SCHOOL WANTED TO COME INTO ONE OF THOSE AREAS, THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE ZONING CHANGE PROCESS TO ZONE IT TO A DISTRICT THAT WOULD ALLOW SCHOOL USE. SO I'LL GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE CONTROL ON THAT. SO ON MAY 31ST AT THE PNC MEETING, BRIEF THE PANSY AND GOT SOME INPUT FROM THEM. IN THE NEAR TERM, THERE IS A CONSENSUS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO REQUIRE SPECIFIC USE PERMITS FOR PUBLIC SCHOOLS IN THESE LARGE LOT ZONING DISTRICTS. LONGER TERM. THERE WAS SOME INTEREST IN EXPLORING THE EGG ZONING DISTRICT. FURTHER THEY WANTED MORE INFORMATION ON THAT. THAT WOULD TAKE A LITTLE BIT LONGER TO DO BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO DO IT. WE'D PROBABLY SPLIT THE TOWN UP INTO DIFFERENT AREAS THAT YOU KIND OF WORK OUR WAY THROUGH IT TAKE A LITTLE MORE TIME. AS WELL. SO TONIGHT. I JUST WANTED TO BRIEF YOU ON THIS AND GET YOUR INPUT AND DIRECTION . IF THERE ARE ANY CHANGES THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE WE CAN STAFF CAN DRAFT AT UDC AMENDMENT AND HAVE A POTENTIAL SCHEDULE. 
          IT CAN QUICKEST THAT COULD GO TO JULY 5TH PNC MEETING AND THEN BACK TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL ON JULY 24TH. SO I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS AND DIRECTION WELL, I GUESS YOU REMEMBER THIS WAS ASSUMING THIS IS. LAND IN QUESTION IS ON THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE RIDGE DEVELOP. AND THERE'S REALLY NO SPECIFIC LAND THAT WE THAT WE KNOW OF THAT THE SCHOOLS IS LOOKING AT A RUMOR I HEARD. YOU REMEMBER THIS BEFORE THE RIDGE, IT WAS HERITAGE FIELDS. WE WENT THROUGH A REALLY PROLONGED GOSHI ATION WITH RESIDENTS. PUBLIC HEARINGS. WE ENDED UP AGREEING ON THE SPANISH AREA. LAND WEST OF. BRIDGE WOULD BE MAIN RURAL RESIDENTIAL WISE WITHIN THE RIDGE ITSELF, THE LARGEST LAW. THE AGREEMENT WAS THEY WOULD LEAVE THAT AS FIVE ACRES BECAUSE FIVE ACRES OWNING WAS NOT THERE. CALLING BLACKS AS FAR AS A BUSINESSMAN. SO I'VE. BE HONEST, I MEAN, WE WENT THROUGH A LOT WITH THE RESIDENTS ON IT. PORTION OF SHOULDER ROADS. I'D BE MORE AMENABLE TO THE AGRICULTURAL SOLUTION SO. THOSE PEOPLE FEEL THEY DON'T GET BURNED FOR A SECOND TIME. AND KIND OF START OUT IN THAT AREA AND MAKE THAT A PRIORITY TO MAKE THAT ONE OF THE FIRST START THAT AREA FIRST IN NOT BOTHER WITH THE S U P CORRECT. CAN WE EVEN DO THAT? BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY ZONED RURAL RESIDENTIAL. UM YOU COULD IT WOULD BE A CONTESTANT. IT POTENTIALLY COULD BE INTERESTED. THEY WOULD THEY WOULD HAVE MAJORITY OF THE. THE CONTIGUOUS PROPERTY BECAUSE IT WOULD BE THEIR PROPERTY SO THE PROPERTY OWNER WOULD THEN COULD PROTEST AND SET YOU INTO A SUPER MAJORITY. BUT THEN YOU COULD YOU COULD WITH A SUPERMAJORITY IS THAT CORRECT? ASHLEY? SO IT WOULD BE A IF THEY WERE AGAINST IT AND PROTESTED IT FORCED YOU INTO A SUPERMAJORITY VOTE, WHICH NATHAN IS, UM FIVE OF SEVEN FOR ZONING AND IT GOES THROUGH THE P N Z AS WELL. THE S U. P PROCESS BE A SIMPLER APPROACH TO GET PROCESS A LITTLE SIMPLE. IS WHAT HAS SIMPLER TO IMPLEMENT QUICKER. WE COULD GET THAT DONE FASTER AND THEN WE COULD AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. START WORKING ON THE EGG AND SPECIFIC TARGET AREAS OF MOST CONCERN WITH THE S U P PREVENT US FROM GOING BACK AND DOING AGRICULTURAL NO, NO, NO. THAT WAS BEING ZS DIRECTION. GET SOMETHING IMMEDIATELY AND 
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BUT FOLLOW UP WITH THE EGGS. THE ISSUE. P WOULDN'T ALLOW US TO DENY IT. CORRECT. BUT WE COULD PUT SUCH RESTRICTIONS ON IT THAT IT WOULD PROTECT THAT OR MAKE IT NOT. MAKE IT NOT APPROPRIATE FOR A SCHOOL BASED ON THE CONDITIONS THAT THE S U P PLACES WHEREAS THE COUNCIL WORKED VERY HARD. TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE ONE ACRE LOTS OF BUDDING SCHOBER ROAD. AND I FEEL LIKE THEY TRIED TO GO BEHIND OUR BACK WITH THIS. REALLY KNOW THEY BUT YEAH, WE'RE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. BOTH OF THEM AND PONDER CAN GO ANYWHERE. WHERE ZONED RESIDENTIAL ANY ANY OF THESE RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS. SO WE SEE THIS AS A POTENTIAL CONFLICT WITH YOUR PLAN AND WITH THE ABILITY TO PUT THE SCHOOL SCHOOLS AND IN ANY OF THESE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT SO THAT'S WHY WE BROUGHT THIS FORWARD. I THINK TYPICALLY, SCHOOLS ARE ONE OF WANT TO GO MORE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ENVIRONMENT, BUT THE POSSIBILITY MAY ARISE IF ALL THOSE LOCATIONS ARE TAKEN UP, AND THEY WANT SOMETHING NEARBY, AND THE BEST AVAILABLE SPOT HAPPENS TO BE ONE OF THESE SCOUNDREL RESIDENTIAL. 
          CURRENTLY THERE'S NOTHING WE COULD DO TO STOP IT OR PUT ANY EXTRA RESTRICTIONS ON WE DON'T. 
          WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ZONED AGRICULTURAL, CORRECT SO LIKE THAT WE'RE INVENTING ANYTHING AND THEN REZONING SECTIONS THAT ARE ROSE AND CURRENTLY RURAL RESIDENTIAL KIND OF SERVES AS OUR RIGHT WOULD. MAYBE YOU CAN'T EVEN ANSWER THIS QUESTION WOULD REZONING A 152 100 ACRE. 
          ATTRACTIVE LAND THAT THE HOMEOWNER HAS ITS CURRENTLY ZONED RURAL RESIDENTIAL. BY REZONING AND AGRICULTURAL WHAT IT DRIVE THE VALUE OF THEIR PROPERTY DOWN. THE. MAYBE THE REAL WORLD VALUE OF IT BECAUSE OF THEIR ABILITY TO SELL IT. I THINK WE, YOU KNOW BRAINSTORMING ON THIS. WE HAD A 20 ACRE MINIMUM. WE HAD PROPOSED BEFORE. SO YOU COULD. IF YOU REAL RESIDENTIAL, YOU CAN SUBDIVIDE TO FIVE ACRES. IF YOU RAG YOU COULD SUBDIVIDE 20 ACRES. THAT WOULD COME FROM ACCEPTING THE PLAN B AND C. KIND OF A RELIEVED AT THAT WE START IMMEDIATELY WITH THE S S U P AND MOVE INTO THE AGRICULTURE IS ONLY ONE. SO THE OTHER ONE DOWN. REASON NOT TO DO THAT. THE ONLY DOWNSIDE IS IF YOU IF YOU REALLY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT A SCHOOL COMING IN, YOU WANT TO COMPLETELY KEEP IT OUT. THE ONLY WAY TO DO THAT. IS TO CHANGES OF ZONING, SO IT'S NOT RESIDENTIAL. SO, UM WOULD. DO DOING THE NEAR TERM. ABSOLUTELY NOW. THERE IS NO DOWNSIDE. WE WOULD WORK BOTH PROCESSES SIMULTANEOUSLY. MEETING NO ONE IN THE TIMING IS BASED ON THE PUBLIC NOTIFICATION AND SO FORTH, SO THE SGP CAN HAPPEN QUICKER BECAUSE UH, IT'S A IT'S A PROCESS THAT ALREADY EXIST IN OUR BEAUTY C WERE CREATED WITH CREATING A NEW ZONING DISTRICTS GOING TO TAKE US A LITTLE MORE TIME. BUT WE WITH YOUR DIRECTION THAT WAS P C P AND Z DIRECTION, WITH SOME BOTH WE JUST KIND OF A THE QUICKEST WAY. YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA DO BOTH THE ONE WE'RE GOING ONLINE. THE FIRST. THE QUICKEST IS THE ISSUE P, BUT WE'LL FOLLOW IT UP WITH WITH AN AG DISTRICT. THANK YOU. DO YOU WANT TO GO? GOT TO GIVE HIM DIRECTIONS SO THEY CAN THIS DISEASE RECOMMENDATIONS. YEAH. WHAT YOU'RE SAYING BILL? I AGREE. ALRIGHT. I'M GOOD WITH THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT IT IS 6. 20 PM WILL 
          [3. PUBLIC INPUT ]
START PUBLIC INPUT. I HAVE TWO CARDS THIS EVENING TO START. MR DEVENPORT. GOOD EVENING, CASTLE . BRIAN DEVENPORT 34 4 NIGHTS COURT TO HERE. I'M HERE TONIGHT TO TALK REGARDING AGENDA ITEM. 
          FIVE J ON THE PERMIT FOR PROPERTY AT 3400 KNIGHTS COURT. RESIGNED NEXT DOOR TO THAT PROPERTY. I'M HERE TO COMMENT IN REGARDS TO THAT TOPIC, UM, PREFERENCE. IF IT IS, THE ACTION OF THE COUNCIL WOULD BE TO NOT RENEW THAT PROPERTIES PERMIT BECAUSE IT IS EXTENDED. UM FOR 
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AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME NOW OVER TWO YEARS WITHOUT SUBSTANTIAL PROGRESS ON THAT PROPERTY WITH NO REAL INTENT TO COMPLETE IT FROM OUR VIEW. UM I UNDERSTAND. IT'S CONSIDERED THAT THE COUNCIL IS GOING TO LOOK TO POSSIBLY DIRECT STAFF TO EXTEND THE ACCOUNT THAT PERMIT FOR 180 DAYS. BASED ON THE INPUT PROVIDED BY THE OWNER AND ALSO WHICH WILL BE THE HOME OWNER AND BUILDER. MATERIALS ARE STILL 12 WEEKS OUT, WHICH MEANS THOSE WON'T ARRIVE UNTIL AUGUST, WHICH PROVIDES AN INSUFFICIENT TIMELINE FOR THEM TO COMPLETE CONSTRUCTION. BASED UPON THE CURRENT STATE OF THE HOUSE. THAT'S FOUR MONTHS IT'S GOT AT LEAST SEVEN, IF NOT MUCH LONGER THAN THAT, GIVEN TO PLUCK CONSTRAINTS, AS WELL AS LABOR CONSTRAINTS. SO UM, IF THE COUNCIL DOES DECIDE TO APPROVE THE PERMIT, I WOULD REQUEST THAT IT BE SHORTENED TO 120 DAYS SO THAT THE BUILDER COULD DEMONSTRATE PROGRESS. UM, AGAINST THAT PERMIT. POOR BE RENEWED AGAIN BECAUSE WHAT I FEAR IS THAT IT WOULD BE RENEWED . THEY MAKE SOME LIMITED PROGRESS AS THEY HAVE EACH OF THE LAST FOUR TIMES THAT THE PERMITS BEEN APPROVED. UH AND THEN, UM, REALLY GO INTO THE CURRENT STATE THAT IT IS, WHICH IS JUST NOT PROGRESS AND BECOMING DILAPIDATED. IN ADDITION, I WOULD REQUEST THAT THE COUNCIL OUR STAFF GUIDE THE OWNER TO CLEAN UP THE DEBRIS ON THE SITE. DEBRIS HAS BEEN PRESENT EVER. SINCE THE START OF CONSTRUCTION, IT'S ATTRACTING RODENTS AS WELL AS OTHER ITEMS IN THE AREA THAT ARE NOT DESIRABLE AND IT'S UNSIGHTLY. I LOOK AT IT EVERY SINGLE MORNING AS I EXIT MY GARAGE AND I WOULD ASK THAT THAT BE CLEANED UP. THERE'S A DUMPSTER ON SITE. THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR TWO MONTHS THAT HAS NOT BEEN FILLED. AND SO WHILE HE WAITS ON THE MATERIALS, I WOULD REQUEST THAT THE, UM TOWN AND FORCE THAT THAT SITE BE CLEANED UP, AND LASTLY, I VIEW IT AS A DANGEROUS JOB SITE. THE CONDITION OF THE LUMBER AS WELL AS THE NAILS AND OTHER DEBRIS AROUND THE SITE. MAKE IT DANGEROUS. I HAVE SMALL CHILDREN . THERE ARE PLENTY OF SMALL CHILDREN IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT COULD STUMBLE INTO THE SITE AND SIGNIFICANTLY INJURED THEMSELVES. THERE'S NOT RAILING THAT GOES TO THE SECOND STORY OF THE HOUSE. THERE'S NOT ANYTHING TO OBSTRUCT SOMEONE FROM FALLING OUT OF THE SECOND STORY, SO I'D ASKED THAT A FENCE BE PLACED AROUND A CONSTRUCTION FENCE AROUND THE PROPERTY FOR THE DURATION OF THE CONSTRUCTION PERIOD. I'M NOT SURE THE ACTION OF THE COUNCIL TONIGHT, BUT I WOULD LIKE THAT TO BE KNOWN FROM A NEIGHBOR'S PERSPECTIVE ON HOW YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO PROCEED. THANKS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR. MR MCGREGOR. JOEL MCGREGOR 89 21 EAST ASSEMBLY LINE BRIEFINGS. GENERALLY. I KIND OF LOOK AT THE TOPIC AND WAIT UNTIL THE MEETING SO I CAN HEAR WHAT ALL IT'S ABOUT, AND ASSUME I'M GOING TO HAVE AT LEAST TWO PUBLIC INPUTS BECAUSE NORMALLY YOU HAVE A BRIEFING, AND THEN SOMETHING COMES BACK AT A LATER MEETING. THIS TIME. IT KIND OF GOT CIRCUMVENTED. WE HAD A BRIEFING, AND THEN IT GOT VOTED ON. SO PUBLIC DOESN'T HAVE ANY OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE ANY KIND OF INPUT. MM ONE OF THE THINGS THAT BOTHERED ME ABOUT IT WAS THE WERE ALREADY EATING $1.5 MILLION WORTH OF IMPACT FEES THAT HAVE TO COME FROM SOMEWHERE BECAUSE THE ROADS AND INFRASTRUCTURE WAS BUILT. AND IT COST US THAT MUCH. AND SO NOW, NOT ONLY DO WE EAT THE 1.5 MILLION AND WE GET NO PROPERTY TAXES. AND NOW WE'RE GIVING THEM A DISCOUNT ON THE THESE AND THINGS SO AND. WEST MADE A GOOD POINT. YOU KNOW, IT'S TAXES HERE. TAXES THERE. BUT IT'S OUR TAXES AND OUR BUDGET VERSUS THE SCHOOL TAXES AND THE SCHOOL BUDGET, SO I APPRECIATE CANCERS. SUGGESTION TO NOT GIVE HIM ANYTHING. UM. YEAH SO AND THEN, OF COURSE, WE'RE ALSO IN PERPETUITY. WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN ALL THOSE SERVICES THAT THEY DIDN'T PAY FOR IN THE FIRST PLACE, THE STREETS AND THE SEWERS AND THE WATER AND ALL THAT STUFF THAT THEY IMPACT THESE WEREN'T COLLECTED ON THANKS. THOSE ARE THE TWO CARDS I HAD SUBMITTED. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK THIS EVENING? ALRIGHT IT IS 6 25 PM AND PUBLIC INPUT TONIGHT. ALRIGHT FIRST ITEM ON 
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THE AGENDA IS CONSENT FOR THE TOWN COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES FROM MAY 26. IS THERE ANY ACTION? YOU SHOULD TAKE COUNSELORS? AHEAD AND USE YOUR BOARD. IF YOU LIKE TO OR TELL ME TO PULL IT AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT. IS NOT WORKING YET. THERE IT GOES. MADE THE MOTION COUNCILOR 
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GAINS MADE THE SECOND COUNSELOR SESSIONS. IT DIDN'T WORK FOR HIM. ALRIGHT, LET'S LET'S VOTE ON THIS. IT IS ALRIGHT. SIX AND ONE. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT FIRST ACTION IN THIS EVENING ITEM E. 
          [5E. Consider Ordinance 22-0601A on proposed text amendments to Section 4.3 "Notice Requirements"  and Article 5 "Zoning Districts" of the Unified Development Code (UDC) to require written notices  to be mailed to property owners within 200 feet of the boundary of the larger parent tract if the  property in question is a portion of that tract. Case # UDC-22-002  a. Public Hearing  b. Consider approval]
ORDINANCE 22-601 A. THIS IS AMENDMENTS TO THE NOTICE REQUIREMENTS. THIS CHANGE WAS DISCUSSED IN DETAIL BY THE COUNCIL ON THE PREVIOUS MEETING. AND THE CHANGE IS TO CHANGE THE BOUNDARY OF THE 200 FT NOTIFICATION WINDOW TO BE THE BOUNDARY OF THE LARGER PARENT TRACK IF THE TRACK IS BEING SUBDIVIDED. SO, UM DID I MISS ANYTHING? THAT'S IT. YOU HAVE TO SAY SIMPLE. ALRIGHT SO WE'VE WE'VE HEARD THIS BEFORE. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. SO IF WE HAVE ANYONE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK ON THIS TONIGHT AT 6 27 PM DO WE HAVE ANYONE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS TOPIC OF THE 200 FT BOUNDARY? THIS EVENING. RIGHT? NO. MR MCGREGOR'S THUMMA. 
          ALRIGHT IT IS 6. 27 PM WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND AT THIS TIME COUNSELORS YOU CAN YOU CAN MAKE MOTIONS. I DON'T KNOW. EVEN AS IS. MOTION TO LEAVE IT AS IS SO DON'T TAKE THE MAKE THE CHANGE. OKAY? ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE A MOTION. I DO NOT HAVE A SECOND, IT APPEARS. DO WE HAVE A SECOND TO DENY THE CHANGE? ALRIGHT THE MOTION DIES FOR LACK OF A SECOND. CAN WE RESET? IS THERE EMOTION? TABLE EXCEPT TONIGHT. I THINK WE'RE GETTING ANYWHERE. MOTION ONLY. HAVE WRITTEN NOTICE. IT'S ONLY ABOUT THE WRITTEN NOTICES. IT JUST CHANGES THE BOUNDARY FROM THE SMALLER TRACK TO THE LARGER TRACK, SO THAT IF YOU HAVE A SMALL SUBDIVISION IN THE MIDDLE OF A LARGER TRACK THAT THE ADJOINING PROPERTY OWNERS OF THAT LARGER TRACK WITHIN POTENTIALLY BEING THE 200 FT WINDOWS SO THEY WOULD BE NOTIFIED REQUIREMENT HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED IN IS INCORPORATED IN THE U. D. C NOW RIGHT? YES. ALRIGHT. IS THE VOTING OPEN? COUNSELORS. YOU CAN YOUR JUST YOUR DECISION HERE. I LIKE THIS ONE WILL MOTION THIS ONE. IS THERE A SECOND? MOTION TO APPROVE ALL RIGHT. SECOND BY COUNCILOR MORE ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION. UP IN THE VOLUME, PLEASE. ALRIGHT, FIVE AND ONE PASSES. ITEM F CONSIDER 
          [5F. Consider Resolution 22-33, awarding the bid and contract to Red River Construction for construction  of Catherine Branch Lift Station and Wastewater Treatment Plant Equipment in the amount of  $3,523,685 ]
RESOLUTION 22-33 AWARDING A BID FOR CONSTRUCTION OF THE CATHERINE BRANCH LIFT STATION WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT. YOU HAVE TWO BIDS IN FRONT OF YOU ONE FOR 3.71 POINT 35 MILLION A PIECE AND YOUR CONSIDERATION, COUNSELORS. MM YEAH. THE ENGINEERS RECOMMENDED THE LITTLE BITTER THAT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS. WE JUST PUT WE ONLY HAD TWO BIDDERS, SO WE INCLUDED THEM IN THE BID TABULATION. OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR I'LL TAKE YOUR CONSIDERATION. ALRIGHT, MAN MOTION BY COUNCILOR SESSIONS CAN I ASSUME THAT'S TO APPROVE OKAY AND SECONDED BY MYSELF ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION COUNCILORS. THAT'S THE KEY COMPONENT OF OUR SOUTHERN PLAIN AND ALL OF THE CONSTRUCTION DOWN THERE THAT WE REQUIRED TO BUILD THIS PIECE OF EQUIPMENT. AND SO THIS IS A STEP. WE HAVE TO TAKE ESCALATING COSTS ASIDE, IT'S NECESSARY FOR THE ENTIRE REGION DOWN THERE TO BE SERVED. ALL RIGHT, SO VOTE OPEN, PLEASE. 
          RIGHT? ALL SIX. THANK YOU. NEXT ITEM, G. CONSIDER RESOLUTION 22 34 POINTING A NOMINEE, THE 
          [5G. Consider Resolution 22-34, appointing a nominee to the Upper Trinity River Water District Board,  for an unexpired term ending May 31, 2025 ]
OPPORTUNITY RIVER WATER DISTRICT BOARD FOR AN UNEXPIRED TERM ENDING MAY 31ST 2025. WE HAVE 
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HAD MILD DRESCHER ON THAT BOARD FOR SOME TIME, AND HE SPENT ELEVATED TO A POSITION NOMINATED BY THE COUNTY. AND SO THAT LEAVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO NOMINATE A SECOND PERSON WHO WE COULD SAY HAS OUR INTERESTS IN MIND. LYLE'S BEEN A TERRIFIC ADVOCATE FOR US AND HAS A LOT OF EXPERIENCE WITH THE BOARD AND SO HIS MOVING UP TO THE COUNTY APPOINTMENT LEAVES US OPEN TO GET SOME MORE INFLUENCE ON THE BOARD. WE DO HAVE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF ACTIVITY RELATED TO THIS BECAUSE OF ALL OF OUR GROWTH, AS WELL AS FOR AN EXPANSION OF ARE NOT JUST OUR EXISTING WATER USE AND EXISTING ENTITLEMENTS BUT ALSO OTHER PROJECTS AS WELL AS EXTENDING WATER INTO AREAS. WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE IT, WHICH CAN INCLUDE OTHER JURISDICTIONS THAT ARE ON THE PERIPHERY OF THE TOWN. SO THERE'S A LOT AT STAKE HERE. NORTH TEXAS IS DEFINITELY WATER IS A CRITICAL RESOURCE AND PROVIDING THAT WATER ALL THE WAY AT THE SOURCES THAT THEY'RE BUILDING. IS VERY IMPORTANT TO BOTH OUR ECONOMICS AND ALSO TO THE AVAILABILITY OF WATER FOR NORTH TEXAS. SO THIS IS A LITTLE LITTLE MORE IMPORTANT, THEN IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE JUST WANT TO WANT TO GUESS OUT HERE. THAT BEING SAID THE REQUIREMENTS FOR IT ARE CANNOT BE AN ELECTED OFFICIAL. SO NOBODY JUMP IN ON THIS BECAUSE YOU CAN'T YOU CAN'T SERVE. IT CANNOT BE AN ELECTED OFFICIAL. IT HAS TO BE SOMEONE WHO LIVES IN THE SERVICE AREA. WHAT ELSE DO WE HAVE ON THE LIST HERE? I'M QUALIFIED VOTER AND YOU CAN'T. IF YOU'RE AN EMPLOYEE OF ONE MEMBER, YOU CAN'T REPRESENT ANOTHER MEMBER, OKAY? ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE, UM WE HAVE. MR CORN SERVING ON THE T R A BOARD, WHICH IS ON THE SUICIDE OF THE HOUSE. AND SO WE'VE GOT THE OPPORTUNITY TO FILL THIS. UM I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE ANYBODY ELSE ON THE STAFF WHO'S QUALIFIED TO SIT ON THIS. UM SO WE CAN CONSIDER MR CORN IF YOU'RE INTERESTED. HE IS SITTING ON A LOT OF BOARDS, SO THERE IS IMPLICATIONS FOR HIS WORKLOAD DON'T KNOW THAT THIS ONE IS VERY SIGNIFICANT, BUT IN YOU NEED TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION ALL OF THE OTHER PIECES OF HIS WORKLOAD. BUT ALSO THE BENEFIT FACTOR IN COORDINATING WITH OUR PROJECTS, SO THERE'S SOME SIGNIFICANT PROS HERE. THERE IS A CON IN THAT SENSE, SO WANTED TO PUT THAT ON IN FRONT OF YOU. THERE'S ALSO OPPORTUNITY FOR ANYBODY ELSE THAT YOU WOULD KNOW THAT YOU MAY HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH IF YOU KNOW ANYONE WHO WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR THIS, BUT IT DOES NEED TO BE SOMEBODY WHO'S GOT SOME EXPERIENCE IN THIS AREA. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BUY SO MUCH WATER AND WE NEED SO MUCH WATER IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS THAT WE NEED THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY OF MAKING THIS HAPPEN. SO I WOULD NOMINATE MR CORN FOR THIS AND ADD THAT TO HIS WORKLOAD. WHETHER ANSWERED OR NOT. SORRY WHAT'S YOUR? WHAT'S YOUR TAKE DREW ON THE WORK LOAD HERE. THE BOARD MEETS ONCE A MONTH. IT'S A IT'S A LUNCH MEETING. IT'S 23 HOURS. IT'S OVER IN LEWISVILLE. UH I'M IN REMITTING FASTING, SO I JUST GET BREAKFAST. SO THEY'RE FEEDING ME LUNCH, SO I'M GONNA I'M EATING LUNCH ANYWAY. UM I, UM I'VE UM, BEEN IN THIS POSITION FOR 15 YEARS. WHEN WE FIRST CAME HERE. WE WEREN'T A MEMBER OF A PATERNITY. NOW WE'RE WE WEREN'T EVEN A CUSTOMER. WE BECAME A CUSTOMER. THEN WE BECAME A MEMBER. UM COUNCIL IN THE PAST, UH, ASKED ME TO SURVIVE. I DIDN'T MEET THE REQUIREMENT. I'M MOVING TO PECAN SQUARE. WE'RE CLOSING JULY 18TH. SO I MEET THE LAST REQUIREMENT. 
          UM, I. KNOW HOW IMPORTANT WATER IS TO THE NORTH LIKE FUTURE TO THE COUNCIL. IT'S IN YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN. IT'S BEEN IN EVERY STRATEGIC PLAN. WATER IS THE LIFEBLOOD OF COMMUNITIES, AND SO, UM, I WOULD YOU I WOULD LEVERAGE ALL MY EXPERIENCE ALL MY RELATIONSHIPS TO BENEFIT THE TOWN OF NORTH LAKE AND INTERPRET THEM IN THE BEST POSITION AS FAR AS WATER. YOU YOU NEGOTIATED OUR MEMBERSHIP IN THE DISTRICT TO BEGIN WITH, RIGHT? UH WELL, WE WERE A MEMBER WHO BECAME WE WERE WE WERE REMOVED FROM THE BOARD. BUT YES, I NEGOTIATED THE CUSTOMER CONTRACT. THERE WAS A PRE EXISTING, UM UNDERSTANDING AND SO THAT EXISTED. WE ACTED ON THAT. BUT WE DID NEGOTIATE THE CUSTOMER CONTRACT AND THEN WE, UH WE WORKED WITH THE BOARD TO GET BACK ONTO THE BOARD. YOU DON'T BRAG ON YOURSELF ENOUGH BECAUSE I THINK WE WERE HAVING SOME TROUBLES IN UNTIL YOU NEGOTIATED SOME OF I THINK. I THINK IN RESPECT TO THE WORKLOAD THAT HE HAS, HE'S GOING TO HAVE 
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DECISIONS MOVING FORWARD AS WE GROW, AND THAT REALLY REQUIRE THEM TO MOVE SOME OF THE STUFF THAT HE'S DOING ALREADY, AND I THINK HE HAS THE ABILITY TO PRIORITIZE PRIOR TO PRIORITIZE AND MAKE THOSE WORK. SO CAN I JUST PAUSE SECOND? HOPEFULLY NO ONE IS GOING TO JUMP IN. BUT I YOU'RE YOU VERBALIZED THE MOTION . WE DIDN'T GET RECORDED. I SHOULD GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS FIRST. ALRIGHT COUNSELOR. YOU JUST JUMPED IN. ALRIGHT SO YOU'VE DEFERRED HIS MOTION. ALL RIGHT? YOU GOT THE SECOND. ARE YOU GOOD WITH THAT? ALRIGHT, I THINK MOTION TO APPROVE DREW TO THE U. T R W T B ALRIGHT, SO BACK OPEN THE FINISH YOUR COMMENTS IF YOU HAVE ANY MORE ALRIGHT, SO WE'LL CONSIDER THIS VOTE. ALRIGHT, UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT CONSIDER RESOLUTION 
          [5H. Consider Resolution 22-35, authorizing the Town Manager to execute an amended lease agreement  with Canyon Falls Homeowners Association, Inc., for the exclusive use of the Hay Barn, for the  purpose of renting recreational space, in an amount not to exceed $400 per month ]
22-35 AUTHORIZING TOWN MANAGER EXECUTE AN AMENDED LEASE AGREEMENT WITH KENYAN FALLS HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION ASSOCIATION FOR THE EXCLUSIVE USE OF THE HAY BARN FOR THE PURPOSE OF RENTING RECREATIONAL SPACE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $400 PER MONTH. THIS HAS BEEN WORKING ALONG FOR SOME TIME. THERE'S SOME ANGST IN THE COMMUNITY THAT THE CANYON FALLS HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION IS THE ONLY ENTITY THAT'S AVAILABLE TO OPEN AND MAKE THE HAY BARN AVAILABLE. BUT SINCE THEY'RE NOT COLLECTING FEES OR OPERATING ON BEHALF OF THE TOWN, THEY DON'T DO THAT FOR RESIDENTS, AND THEREFORE IT STAYS LOCKED OTHER THAN FOR H O A EVENTS. SINCE IT IS A TOWN ASSET. WE NEED A WAY TO EXTEND THIS AND OPEN IT TO THE PUBLIC SO THAT IT'S AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC. OBVIOUSLY THAT INVOLVES SOME ABILITY TO CLEAN THE PLACE UP AND MAKE SURE IT'S USED APPROPRIATELY. RESERVED APPROPRIATELY, ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS BECAUSE IT IS AN ENCLOSED SPACE AS TABLES AND CHAIRS. AND SO THERE'S EQUIPMENT THAT CAN BE USED. THE OUTDOOR AREAS ARE ALL OPEN DOG PARK AND THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT THIS PARTICULAR INSIDE SPACE FOR THE PURPOSE OF USING IT FOR MEETINGS OR BIRTHDAY PARTIES OR WHATEVER IS NOT AVAILABLE TO RESIDENTS OF OUR TOWN OR ANYONE REALLY AT THIS POINT BECAUSE OF THAT LACK OF ABILITY TO MANAGE THE MANAGE THE FACILITY, THEREFORE, IN AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CANYON FALLS HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION WHO ALSO MANAGES THE CLUBHOUSE, WHICH IS AVAILABLE FOR RENTAL SPACE, WE'VE BEEN WORKING FOR SOME TIME TO GET AN ARRANGEMENT THAT THEY WOULD BASICALLY LEASE IT FROM US FOR RENTED FROM US FOR $400 A MONTH THEY WOULD RE RENTED OUT TO COVER THEIR COSTS AND WE'VE DEFINED WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS AN APPROPRIATE COST STRUCTURE AND NEGOTIATION WITH THEM THAT WOULD COVER THEIR COSTS. AND ALLOW IT TO BE USED FOR RESIDENTS AND SO THEY CAN START BEING RESERVED, WHICH WE HAVE A LOT OF REQUESTS FOR RESERVATION. WE'VE NOT BEEN ABLE TO ENTERTAIN. SO THAT'S WHERE THIS COMES FROM COUNSELORS. YOUR CONSIDERATION OF THIS ITEM. AND I AM A RESIDENT OF CANYON FALLS SAW THIS CLOSE THAT I DO SUPPORT THIS HAVE BEEN TRACKING THIS PROJECT, SO I AM IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM. RIGHT SO I GET IN ON THE SECOND ON THAT COUNSELOR. GANSAS MOTION TO APPROVE. IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONSIDERATIONS OR THOUGHTS ON THE STRUCTURE? IT'S $75 PER HOUR CLEANING FEE. THE CLUBHOUSE IS $25 AN HOUR PLUS AN $80 CLEANING FEE. SO THIS KIND OF MERGES. THE TWO MAKES IT A FLAT FEE AVAILABLE AND IT IS IN THE IN THE STRUCTURE. IT IS PRIORITIZED FOR RESIDENTS. NOW. ACTUALLY THOUGHT OF SOMETHING. ASHLEY ANDREW WHEN WE SAY RESIDENTS AND IN THIS IS IT NORTH LAKE RESIDENTS WE BASED ON YOUR SO YOU'VE APPROVED THIS ONCE THIS IS ACTUALLY AMENDED PROVED THIS ONCE AND THERE WERE A NUMBER OF COMMENTS YOU HAD, AND WE'VE INCLUDED THOSE COMMENTS THEY HAD SOME CHANGES THAT ARE ATTORNEY BELIEVED WERE SUBSTANTIAL ENOUGH TO NEED TO COME BACK TO YOU. AND SO I SAID, AH. SO I PUT IN ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU REQUESTED. 
          WE THOUGHT YOU MEANT THAT IT WAS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, SO WE DON'T WE DON'T PRIORITIZE ITS WE DON'T REQUIRE THEM TO PRIORITIZE. IT'S THE FIRST COME FIRST SERVE. IT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. OKAY, IS THAT WHAT IT SAYS? THAT IS OUR TASKS AND NORTH IT SAYS PRIORITIZED IN NORTH LAKE. AND THE MEMO. YES. WHAT IS THE NO? THE CHANGES. I APOLOGIZE. YEAH, THE MEMO THE MEMOS. IT WAS THE OLD MEMO DIDN'T CATCH THAT UP. MY APOLOGIES. SORRY. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR READING MY MEMO. I DO. 
          YEAH OKAY. ALRIGHT AND THAT'S FINE. THAT IS GOOD. IT IS A NORTHLAKE ASSET, SO IT SHOULD BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. UM AND SO THAT'S GOOD. SO COUNSELORS WITH THAT INFORMATION IN MIND? HAVE 
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ANY FURTHER COMMENTS. CONCERNS. OKAY, LET'S OPEN THE VIDEO. LET'S GET THIS THING READY FOR USE. WE'RE MISSING SOMEBODY. THERE IT IS. THANK YOU. ITEM. I6 ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES SERVE IN 
          [5I. Consider Resolution 22-36, selecting a representative to serve on the DENCO Area 9-1-1 District  Board of Managers for a term beginning October 1, 2022, and expiring on September 30, 2024 ]
THE DENKO AREA 911 DISTRICT BOARD OF MANAGERS FOR THE NEXT TERM. WE HAVE TO APPLICANTS. 
          DAVID TERRY IS RECOMMENDED BY THE COLONY. AND WE HAVE JIM CARTER, WHO WAS RECOMMENDED BY HALF A DOZEN CITIES. UM MR. CARTER IS ALSO THE PRESIDENT OF R. E S D, AND BUT BOTH HAVE BEEN SERVING IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT FOR SOME TIME, SO WE HAVE TO UP FOR CONSIDERATION. I DON'T THINK WE'RE PREVENTED FROM CONSIDERING SOMEONE ELSE. BUT THOSE ARE THE TWO THAT APPLIED CORRECT. NO, YOU YOU CAN ONLY VOTE ON WHO'S BEEN NOMINATED NOMINEES. OKAY WE ONLY HAVE TWO CHOICES ON THE SHELF. WHICH WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO YOUR COUNSELORS? I'D LIKE TO SELECT JIM CARTER. ALL RIGHT . GO AHEAD AND DO YOUR MOTION, PLEASE, SIR. THERE IT IS. IT CAME UP AND WENT DOWN. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION BY A COUNSELOR SESSION SECONDED BY COUNCILOR GANZ ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? GOOD. UP IN THE VOTING. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ITEM J CONSIDER RESOLUTION 22-37 
          [5J. Consider Resolution 22-37, designating the Town Manager (or his/her designee) as building official;  and provide direction to staff on permit status of residential construction at 3400 Knights Court ]
DAYS WE NEED A TOWN MANAGER OR HIS DESIGNEE AS BUILDING OFFICIAL AND PROVIDE DIRECTION OF STAFF AND THE PERMIT STATUS. THE RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION AT 3400 KNIGHTS COURT. WE'VE GOT TWO SEPARATE THINGS TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT. AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO NEED A LITTLE BIT OF A BRIEFING HERE, MR CORN ON BOTH OF THEM, BUT LET'S START WITH THE IDEA OF TOWN MANAGER IS BUILDING OFFICIAL. WHAT EXACTLY IS THAT AND WHAT'S TECHNICALLY CHANGING OR NOTHING? AND WHAT IS THIS FORMALIZING? HIS FIRST START. WE HAVE BUILDING OFFICIAL LISTED IN OUR ORDINANCES THROUGHOUT OUR ORDINANCES, BUT WE DON'T DESIGNATE WHO IS THAT BUILDING. OFFICIAL. ARE. DE FACTO BUILDING OFFICIAL IS SAFE BUILT. THEY'RE THE ONES THAT HAD THE. CERTIFICATIONS AND ELECTRICAL PLUMBING, HBC MECHANICAL BUT IN TALKING WITH OUR ATTORNEY, IT NEEDS TO BE STAFF INDIVIDUAL. AND WHAT PRECIPITATED THIS IS WE REALLY HAVEN'T HAD THIS ISSUE BEFORE. 
          BUT THIS UH THIS PROJECT THAT HAS BEEN HAS BEEN DELAYED. AND I REALIZED BECAUSE I'VE HAD A NUMBER OF COUNCIL MEMBERS ASKED ME ABOUT THIS IS THERE'S AND WE'VE HAD THE PUBLIC AVERAGE SEEN NUMEROUS EMAILS. SO THIS IS A UM VERY, UM. SIGNIFICANT PROBLEM THAT THIS PROJECT 3400 KNIGHTS COURT HAS DELAYED ITS BECAUSE IT'S TWO YEARS BEEN OVER TWO YEARS, SO I KNOW UH, IT'S IN THE PUBLIC EYE. OH, WHAT WE WANT TO BE CAREFUL OF IS WE DON'T WANT THE COUNCIL SERVING AS THE BUILDING. OFFICIAL. SO WE'VE GOT TO PROVIDE SOME TYPE OF BUFFER BETWEEN THAT WE DON'T WANT AH! INDIVIDUALS THAT AREN'T LICENSED TO REVIEW PLUMBING AND ELECTRICAL, MECHANICAL ALL THAT STUFF TO BE MAKING THOSE DECISIONS. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I REALIZED THAT THIS IS A HIGHLY POLITICAL AND IT'S BEEN AN EYESORE AT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, AND IT'S BEEN, UH, IT'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, EXTREME FRUSTRATION FOR THE NEIGHBORS HERE. SO, UM I'M ASKING YOU TO MAKE ME THE OFFICIAL CITY, THE BUILDING. OFFICIAL. BUT. I ASKED FOR A YEAR DIRECTION ON HOW TO HANDLE THIS IN MY FIRST DECISION IN THIS ROLE. UM AND SO, UM. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE OWNER AND BUILDER OF 3400 KNIGHTS COURT, UM, MY, MY OWN HOUSES IS TAKING IT'S GOING TO BE ABOUT 16 MONTHS. UM. HE'S HAD TWO YEARS WITH REALLY NO PROGRESS, AND SO , UM, WE DO. WE HAVE CHECKED THE DEED OF TRUST. THERE IS A IN THIS IS PUBLIC RECORD, AND I CAN I CAN SHARE THIS WITH YOU. THERE IS A $718,000 LOAN THAT THE HOMEOWNER SLASH BUILDER HAS RECEIVED. AND SO WE HAVE RECORD OF THAT THAT THAT IS OFFICIAL. AND HE'S COMMUNICATED WITH US JUST LIKE HE HAS MR DEVIN FORD 
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THAT BECAUSE OF SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES, SUPPLIES ARE 12 WEEKS, WEEKS OUT, SO THEY'RE LOOKING CONFIRM THAT THIS IS NOT. THIS IS NOT AN EASY DECISION THAT THE FUTURE HOMEOWNER HAS THE FINANCE AND HE DID NOT HAVE THEM PRIOR. HE WAS TRYING TO BUILD THIS. KIND OF THROUGH THROUGH HIS HIS BUSINESS. HE IS A HOME BUILDER, SO HE WAS TRYING TO CASH FLOW. THIS AND. COVID AND SUPPLY TUNE AND ALL THAT HIT AND HE HE HAS TOLD US HE HAS PUT OUT A MORTGAGE ON HIS HOUSE AND HIS MOTHER'S HOUSE THAT RELEVANT. I MEAN, THE. TO THE FACTS AT HAND NOW, BUT THAT'S THAT'S OUR COMMUNICATION WITH HIM. WE WERE HESITANT TO HAVE HIM. HERE BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO PUT YOU IN A POSITION WHERE EVERY HOMEOWNER PLEADS FOR THEIR BUILDING. PERBET THAT'S NOT REALLY BLOOD. ANYWAY WE'RE TRYING TO TRYING TO WALK A TIGHTROPE HERE. I KNOW IT'S I KNOW IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT DECISION. I WANT TO HEAR YOUR INPUT AND FEEDBACK ON THIS AND AS WE TRY TO TRY TO NAVIGATE THIS, AND THEN ALSO, UM, IF WE GO DOWN THE ROUTE OF NOT RENEWING THE BUILDING PERMIT. WE NEED TO TALK TO CONSULT WITH THE ATTORNEY TO TALK ABOUT THE PROCESS THAT WILL BE BECAUSE THAT WILL BE AND WE BRIEFED THE COUNCIL BEFORE ON THIS, BUT THIS WILL THAT WILL BE A LENGTHY PROCESS AS WELL, UM, YOU KNOW, AN ACTIVE CONSTRUCTION SITE, UH , ALL THE OTHER HOMES IN THE AREA DO NOT HAVE CONSTRUCTION FENCE AROUND THEM, SO WE'LL BE TREATING THIS PROJECT DIFFERENTLY THAN WE DO OTHERS. IT MAY WARRANT IT AND THE BUILDER MAY BE AGREEABLE TO IT WAS DEFINITELY SOMETHING WILL ASK ABOUT. UM BUT. SO ANYWAY, UY DECISION, AND, UM. NEED TO LET YOU KNOW WHAT THE PROCESS IS TO DECLARE TOO DANGEROUS BUILDING TO RAISE THE BUILDING. OR A ISI BUT OUR A Z IN HOW WE OR DEMOLISHED THE BUILDING AND HOW WE IF WE CAN'T GET THE HOMER TO DO IT THEMSELVES. THE TOWN WILL DO IT WILL HAVE TO PLACE A LIEN ON THE PROPERTY AND IT'S ALREADY GOT A IT'S ALREADY GOT A CONSTRUCTION. LOLITA LING ON IT. 
          WE MAY I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE A PRESIDENT. IN THE LINK, AS THE LIEN HOLDER WILL HAVE PRECEDENT , SO WE'LL PUSH THE BANK BEHIND US IF WE DO DEMOLISHED THE STRUCTURE, AND THEN THAT LANE WILL THOSE LANES WILL BE PLACED ON THE PROPERTY. SO ANYWAY. UM I GOT AN ATTORNEY HERE. SHE MAY ADVISE US TO GO BACK AND EXECUTIVE SESSION. I'LL TRY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. YOU MAY HAVE DRAWN NATHAN AS WELL. I GOT ONE. YEARS AGO DURING MY FIRST STINT ON THE COUNCIL TRY TO GET US TO AN ACCENT. KIND OF TIME MOMENT ON A PERM. I WAS TOLD HE COULDN'T DO. AND IT LOOKS LIKE THAT'S COMING BACK TO BITE US. NO THERE. THERE ARE TIME LIMITS , AND I WE IN AN EARLIER BRIEFING, WE HAVE RENEWED THIS TWICE. SO THERE ARE THERE ARE TIME LIMITS AND PERFORM TO MY KNOWLEDGE. EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN DONE TODAY. THIS CODE COMPLIANT, CORRECT. WHAT'S AT THAT PLACE? YES YES, HE MET CODE ISN'T THERE WAS A FENCE AROUND YES. UM, AS FAR AS BEING A DANGER. YOU CAN SAY ANY HOME IN NORTH LAKE THAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION IS DANGEROUS. I'VE SEEN KIDS SKATING SKATEBOARDING ON ON SLABS. I DON'T KNOW. THE GUY HAS FUNDING. I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN UNITE HIM AN EXTENSION AT THIS POINT. AND IF THAT DOESN'T WORK, THEN TAKE OTHER ACTIONS, BUT IT'S I CAN'T SEE THE CLEARANCE SOMETHING DANGEROUS BECAUSE IT'S A NICE AND THAT'S WHY I MENTIONED THAT WE DO HAVE A NUMBER OF HOMES UNDER CONSTRUCTION ALL THE TIME IN THE TOWN, AND SO THE ONLY REASON I SAY THAT I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO A SITUATION WHERE TREATING SOMEBODY DIFFERENTLY WILL OBVIOUSLY WORK WITH THIS, AND THEY PUT IT UP AT ONCE, ONCE , SO MAYBE WE CAN GET IT RETURNED. EVERY EVERY HOUSE AROUND THERE IS FINISHED, SO IT IS UNIQUE AND THAT IT I THINK IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE. FOR SOME TYPE OF CONSIDERATION FOR THAT, WELL AS FAR AS THE SUPPLY CHAIN GOES, I UNDERSTAND THAT I HAVE MATERIALS THAT MY JOB I CAN'T GET FOR MONTHS AT A TIME. IT'S JUST A WEIRD ECONOMIC SITUATION RIGHT NOW. DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, 
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JUST THE YANKS SOMETHING OUT FROM UNDER SOMEONE BECAUSE PEOPLE FIND IT TO BE AN EYE SORES. I DON'T KNOW TO ME. THAT KIND OF GOES AGAINST THE VERY IN A LITTLE BIT. BUT THEY ARE RIGHT. IS A NICE ONE. YEAH ANY HOME UNDER CONSTRUCTION? WELL THIS THIS HAS BEEN TWO YEARS IN THE SHIPMENT FALLING OFF THE WOOD IS DETERIORATING. I MEAN THE SECOND LEVEL PLANKING. IT LOOKS TO HAVE SOME ISSUES, BUT THE VERTICAL STUDS ACCORDING TO OUR BUILDING, INSPECTOR IS STILL UM IT HAS FINE DEFINITELY HAS STAINED. IT HAS WATER STAINS, BUT FUNCTIONALLY IT'S STILL IT'S STILL ADEQUATE. WE DO HAVE FENCES AND THE TIGHTER SORRY THAT I JUMPED AHEAD OF YOU. OKAY ALL RIGHT. WE DO HAVE FENCES THAT ARE PUT UP THERE PRETTY FLIMSY, AND THEY DON'T ACTUALLY DO MUCH OTHER THAN CATCH BLOWING DEBRIS. BUT THEY WHEN WE'RE AT, YOU KNOW, AND WE'RE PUTTING IN US PUTTING IN. BUT WHEN THERE'S A HOME BEING BUILT AND EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD THERE'S ONE DOWN THE STREET FOR ME THAT THE LOT HAS BEEN LEFT OPEN FOR YEARS. AND FINALLY, THERE'S A HOUSE BEING BUILT ON IT. AND, OF COURSE, THE STUFF SPILLING ON THE NEIGHBOR'S YARDS AND ON A ZERO LOT LINE COMMUNITY, THE SUNFLOWER AMOUNT SIDE IT'S PRETTY UNSIGHTLY AND SO, BUT THEY ARE REQUIRED, BUT FENCES UP NOW THAT'S A FAR AMOUNT SIDE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THAT REQUIREMENT, BUT WE COULDN'T MAKE IT. YOU KNOW, I CAN MAKE IT A CONDITION WITH IN UM I THINK SOME OF OUR BUILDERS HAVE DONE THAT, AND SOME HAVE DONE IT DUE TO THEFT. SOME HAVE PUT SECURITY FENCES AROUND. THIS IS THIS WAS JUST THE. FLIMSY FENCES. IT'S NOT EVEN IT'S NOT EVEN METAL OR ANYTHING. THEY'RE JUST STEAKS AND SOMETHING TO CATCH BLOWING DEBRIS. I HAVE SEEN SOME IN THE LAUREL COMMUNITY, FOR INSTANCE. BUT I DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF MAKING ANYTHING DIFFERENT ABOUT THIS IF WE IF WE APPROVE AN EXTENSION TO A PERMIT MY VIEW THE PERMIT SHOULD BE THE SAME AS ANY OTHER PERMIT. WE LEAVE THE PERMANENT ALONE. IT'S SIX MONTHS. IT FOLLOWS THE SAME LIMITS THE SAME CODE. BUT I DO THINK THAT IT'S TIME FOR US TO CONSIDER VERY SERIOUSLY WHETHER OR NOT WE ISSUE THAT PERMIT. BUT I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE A YES OR A NO. AND OBVIOUSLY STATEWIDE. I THINK IT IS A CHALLENGE, GIVEN THE FACT THAT HE'S JUST GOTTEN FINANCING HAS HE HAS HOARDED THE MATERIALS? YES, OKAY. SO I MEAN , THAT MAKES IT THAT MUCH MORE DIFFICULT. I MEAN, IT'S ONE THING TO GET FINANCING IS ANOTHER ONE TO SPEND THEM. THE ORDER WAS TWO WEEKS AGO OR THREE WEEKS AGO. FEW WEEKS BACK, SO THERE. WE'RE NINE WEEKS, MAYBE, BUT STILL A LONG TIME. AS YOU SAID, I MEAN, THERE ARE REASONS WHY I CONSTRUCTION IS TAKING A LONG TIME, BUT WE'RE BEYOND AN EXTRAORDINARY SITUATION AT THIS POINT, AND WE'RE ONLY JUST STARTING ORDERING MATERIAL TO GET TO THE NEXT STAGE. IN MY IN MY OPINION, HIS METHOD OF BUILDING AND IN CASH FLOWING IT WITH WITH WITH CHANGE IN THE ECONOMY AND EVERYTHING IN IT. IT NO LONGER WORKED AT SUPPLY CHAIN REALLY ISN'T THE EXCUSE OF WHY THIS SET IDLE. IT WAS IT WAS HE WAS HE WOULD. HIS FINANCING MECHANISM WAS INSUFFICIENT. I DO HAVE ANOTHER POINT, BUT I NEED TO LET YOU TALK FOR A SECOND. IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. I DO A LOT OF WORK IN THERE, THERE'S HOMEBUILDER OFFICE. WHY WAS THIS PARTICULAR HOMEOWNER OR FUTURE HOMEOWNER ALLOWED TO BUILD IT HIMSELF AND THE OTHER LOTS BUILT BY HOMEOWNERS. IN THIS DEVELOPMENT, IT'S NOT REQUIRED IN HONOR IN OUR MASTER PLANNED COMMUNITIES THAT DEVELOPER PICK SPECIFIC BUILDERS. BUT YOU CAN ACTUALLY BUILD A SUIT IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. BUT CAN YOU CAN ACT AS YOUR OWN GENERAL CONTRACTOR? YES, SIR. OKAY OR YOU CAN PICK YOU CAN PICK. YOU DON'T HAVE TO PICK ONE OF THEIR BUILDERS. YOU CAN BRING YOUR OWN BUILDER IN HE WAS A BUILDER. SO HE BROUGHT HIMSELF UM SECOND THING JUST TO GET THIS OUT THERE. THIS WHOLE STORY SOUNDS LIKE IRRESPONSIBILITY ON HIS PART. WE'RE GOING TO BUILD THIS HUGE HOUSE. YOU DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO DO IT. ALL THE PEOPLE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE BEAUTIFUL HOMES. AND NOW YOU'RE CAUSING THIS EYESORE BECAUSE YOU WEREN'T RESPONSIBLE TO GET THE FUNDING UPFRONT. LIKE THE REST OF US DO. MY TWO CENTS ON THAT. IN A WAY IN YET I TAKE IT THAT BEFORE HE GOT A CONSTRUCTION, LIEN, HE OWNED THIS PROPERTY, RIGHT? YES. ON MY OPINION. IF A MAN OWNS HIS PROPERTY, WE LET HIM DO WHAT HE WANTS TO I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT. SO I'M. I'M LEANING, REALLY PRAGMATIC ON THIS. MY I WANT TO KNOW WHAT IS THE FASTEST PATH TO HAVING A 
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FULLY CONSTRUCTED HOMES BUILT IN THIS PROPERTY. MY CONCERN ABOUT GOING THE ROUTE OF SAYING NO, NO MORE. TAKE IT DOWN AND START OVER, SELL THE LOT. WHATEVER HE CHOOSES TO DO WITH IT. STARTS THE PROCESS OVER. AND THEN SOMEBODY ELSE HAS TO START BUILDING A HOME. BUT I WANT TO KNOW IS HOW LONG IS IT GOING TO TAKE FOR EITHER OF THOSE PATHS, AND I'M NOT? THAT'S NOT A QUESTION FOR ALL OF YOU BECAUSE YOU CAN'T CAN'T SEE THE FUTURE AND KNOW THAT BUT THE PART THAT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AN ESTIMATE ON IS EXACTLY HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE FOR US TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF DETERMINING IF THE IF IT'S DANGEROUS, WHICH IS NOT FOR CERTAIN. IN GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS. IF YOU'VE SEEN THIS HAPPEN BEFORE, TO THE POINT AT WHICH THE STRUCTURES DEMOLISHED AND WE START OVER WITH THE SITE , AND SOMEONE ELSE STARTS OVER WITH A BETTER PROCESS BECAUSE I FEAR THAT THIS IS GOING TO LOCK THIS UP FOR SOME TIME TO DO THIS PROCESS BEFORE WE ACTUALLY MAKE ANY PROGRESS, AND WE COULD ACTUALLY MAKE FASTER PROGRESS BY LETTING HIM GO AHEAD AND GET THE MATERIALS AND GET GOING. YEAH I CAN. I CAN ANSWER JUST A GENERAL OUTLINE ON THE DANGEROUS BUILDINGS PROCESS AND AS I UNDERSTAND IT THE TOWN HAS NEVER UTILIZED THAT PROCESS. YOU HAVE IT IN YOUR ORDINANCES, AND YOU HAVE IT IN YOUR BAG. BUT YOU'VE NEVER ACTUALLY UTILIZED IT. I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT. MAYOR. YOUR INSTINCT IS RIGHT. UM AS WITH ANY GOVERNMENTAL PROCESS THAT WILL TAKE LONGER THAN THEN LIKELY TO SIX MONTHS. THAT THE PERMIT THAT RENEWING OF THE PERMIT WOULD TAKE SO YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A FINDING THAT IT WAS DANGEROUS. SO YOU'RE BUILDING OFFICIALS. IF YOU APPOINT DREW AS THAT POSITION, HE WOULD DESIGNATE SOMEONE TO GO OUT AND ANALYZE IT, PROBABLY IF IT'S EMPTY. IF IT'S SITTING THERE. IF THERE'S NAILS OUT THERE, WE PROBABLY COULDN'T JUSTIFY IT, FINDING THAT IT IS DANGEROUS IF YOU CHOSE TO DO THAT, SO WE'D SEND NOTICE TO THE PROPERTY OWNER AND THEN HE'D HAVE TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A HEARING. SO THAT WOULD BE NOTICE OF 30 DAYS AND THEN I HEARING AND THEN YOU WOULD. YOU WOULD HAVE TO POST THAT NOTICE, AND THAT WOULD BE THAT WOULD BE AFTER WHATEVER YOU COME UP WITH, IF YOU DID, IF YOU DO DESIGNATED DANGEROUS, YOU'LL HAVE TO POST THAT NOTICE AS WELL. AND YOU HAVE OPTIONS. AT THAT POINT, YOU CAN DECLARE IT DANGEROUS. WRECKED IT. UM, WHAT WE SEE MOST OFTEN. 
          HE STILL OWNS THAT PROPERTY. YOU'RE JUST ORDERING ME TO DEMOLISH AND START SO TO THAT MAYOR. MAKING HIM STOP. THAT THE QUESTION IS THERE A LEGAL DEFINITION FOR DANGERS, OR IS IT ARBITRARY? THERE IS YOU HAVE. OR THERE. YES. MISSIONS THAT CONSTITUTE A SUBSTANCE. SO ITEMS THROUGH YESTERDAY, BUT YOU JUST SAID SUBSTANDARD BUILD. SUBSTANDARD, DANGEROUS. THIS BUILDING. AS FAR AS I KNOW, SO FAR MEETS MEETS ALL THE CODES. SO WELL. AND IF IT'S SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS LOOSE NAILS, ANY ON SITE BEING BUILT IN NORTH LIKE DANGEROUS AND AGAIN, THAT'S THAT'S GOING TO BE A CONSIDERATION IF IT COMES TO YOU. TO DECIDE. 
          SO I SAY ALL THAT MAY BE A MOOT POINT. YOU MAY GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND DECIDED NO, THIS ISN'T ACTUALLY MEET THE DEFINITION OF DANGEROUS SO IT REALLY IS A PROCESS. ALONG. CAN LET ME ASK. QUESTION HERE. CAN WE PURSUE BOTH PASSED AT THE SAME TIME? SO IF WE AUTHORIZE A BUILDING PERMIT BUT THE CONDITION OF THE SITE IS UNIQUE IN THAT IT'S FALLING INTO DISREPAIR. AND IT IS IMPACTING BECAUSE PIECES ARE FLYING OFF AND IT'S JUST IT'S A ATTRACTIVE NUISANCE. IT'S NOT BEING WORKED ON. SO AN ACTIVE WORK SITE HAS A TENDENCY TO DRIVE AWAY PEOPLE FROM PLAYING ON IT TO SOME DEGREE. MM AND IT AS IT MOVES ALONG, IT GETS TOWARDS A MORE SECURE FACILITY PRETTY QUICKLY. ONCE THEY SHE GETS INDOORS ON AND THINGS CAN WE PURSUE 
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ANYTHING UNDER OUR CODES? AS FAR AS DEBRIS AND TRASH AND MAINTENANCE OF THE SITE IN PARALLEL TO ALLOWING HIM TO CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD. YEAH, THE TRASH ALL THAT? YES AND WE NEED TO. WE NEED TO STAY ON TOP OF THAT THE DANGEROUS BUILDING WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT MORE PROBLEM PROBLEMATIC BECAUSE WE'VE ISSUED A PERMIT. IT'S AN ACTIVE CONSTRUCTION SITE. SO MAYBE I CLARIFY, I'M NOT SAYING PURSUE. CONDEMNATION AND SAYING PURSUE MAKING SURE THAT THIS SITE IS APPROPRIATE FOR A CONSTRUCTION SITE. UM, AND THAT IT IS BEING ACTIVELY WORKED. 
          WHATEVER WE HAVE IN OUR CODES TO SEE THAT PROCESS GO FORWARD. WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE WON'T BE ANOTHER ONE HERE UNLESS THIS MATERIAL IS PUT TO WORK AND THE STRUCTURE IS SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETE AT THE END OF THE SIX MONTHS YES, YOU CAN. ABSOLUTELY. PARALLEL THAT, UM. WOULDN'T RECOMMEND THAT YOU START THE HEARING PROCESS AND YOU AND YOU START I APOLOGIZE, SO LET ME CHANGE WHAT I'M ASKING FOR IS PURSUE ALL ACTIONS APPROPRIATE AND POSSIBLE UNDER OUR CURRENT CODES TO FIX THE DANGER OF THE SITE FOR THE RESIDENCES AND CLEAN UP THE SITE WHILE THE MATERIALS BEING ORDERED THE PERMIT IS REISSUED. THE ISSUE TICKETS. I MEAN, IF THEY'RE IF THEY'RE TRASH AND DEBRIS REGULATIONS THAT YOU CAN ISSUE A TICKET, AND HE HAS HIS PERMIT. DO WE HAVE ENOUGH IN OUR CODES TO BE ABLE TO EFFECTIVELY EFFECT THIS SITE AT THIS POINT? YES. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN YOUR ROLE POTENTIALLY HAS BUILDING OFFICIAL. YOU CAN ACCOMPLISH THAT. WELL, THIS WOULD THIS WOULD FALL ON CODE ENFORCEMENT AND SO WE WOULD HAVE OUR WHATEVER CODE COMPLIANCE COORDINATOR. CONTINUED TO GO OUT AND. YOU KNOW? CHANGE CHANGE TACT AND WE'LL GET MORE. WE'LL GET MORE AGGRESSIVE. AND WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO WORK WITH THIS INDIVIDUAL FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. HE HAS HE HAS CLEANED SIDE UP AT TIMES, BUT THOSE THOSE INSULATION PANEL THE WRAPPING CONTINUES TO BLOW OFF. IT'S IN ESPECIALLY THE HEAT OF THE SUN. THEY'RE ALL PEELING OFF. SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO ADDRESSED WITH IT. YES AND IT IT'S ONGOING. YES. IT SEEMS LIKE WHEN. WHEN IT STARTS FALLING APART. WE CAN REQUIRE HIM TO GO MITIGATE THAT NEXT WEEK WITH HAMMER NAILS, RIGHT, RIGHT. OKAY? GOING. IF HE SOLD THIS TO A THIRD PARTY. WOULD YOU GIVE A BUILDING PERMIT TO THE THIRD PARTY? THEY CAME IN AND MET THE REQUIREMENTS. IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S NOT SO BAD THAT YOU WOULDN'T RE PERMITTED IF WE TOOK THIS GUY OUT OF THE DEAL. WHEN? WHEN I FIRST GOT HERE THERE WAS A HOME IN NORTHRIDGE ESTATES. IT WAS A GOLF HOME GOLF WENT BANKRUPT DURING THE 2000 AND EIGHT LOAN CRISIS IN THAT THAT HOUSE SET STUD, UH AND I THINK IT'S A ROOF AND STUDS BUT HAD NO SIGHTING. IT'S SET FOR QUITE SOME TIME AND ANOTHER BUILDER TOOK IT OVER AND THEY REFURBISH SOME STUFF CHECKED OUT THE STRUCTURE AND IT'S A BEAUTIFUL HOUSE NOW. SO THERE'S THAT ANSWER QUESTIONS. SO WE GET TWO THINGS HAPPENING HERE ONE MAKING YOU THE BUILDING OFFICIAL AND THEN DEALING WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY. BUT THIS MAKE YOU BUILDING OFFICIAL FOR EVER. IT IT MAKES IT MAKES THIS POSITION. SO HAVE YOU FIRED ME? I RETIRED WHOEVER THE NEXT TOWN MANAGER IS WELL, YEAH, BUT I DIDN'T IN ALL BUILT BECAUSE THEY HAVE CERTAIN RIGHT CAPABILITIES . SO BY PUTTING SOMEONE ELSE IN THIS POSITION TO GIVE THE TOWN A LITTLE MORE POWER. TO CONTROL THIS SCENARIO, RIGHT? RIGHT I WOULD I WOULD. DAY TO DAY I WOULD DEFER TO THE TO THEM ABSOLUTELY. ALL THOSE PROCESSES WOULD STAY THE SAME AND I WOULD NOT. I WOULD NOT INSERT MYSELF INTO THAT. THIS IS FOR THIS PARTICULAR CASE AND ACTUALLY RECOMMENDED THAT THE TOWN HAVE A STAFF INDIVIDUAL IN THAT ROLE. 
          EVENTUALLY WE WILL WE WILL. WE WILL HAVE AN OFFICIAL BUILDING. OFFICIAL. TECHNICALLY, WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS NAMING IF YOU CHOOSE TO APPROVE IT. YOU'RE NAMING HIM OR HIS DESIGNEE. SO IN THAT SCENARIO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. HE'LL KILL NAME SAFE SPOT, RIGHT? I MEAN, YEAH. IS THERE ANY WAY? RENEWING HIS PERMIT, AND WE CAN. GIVE SOME STIPULATIONS ON PROGRESS. LIKE OBVIOUSLY, FIRST THING THE LOT NEEDS CLEANED, RIGHT? I MEAN, IF THERE'S SHEATHING FALLING OFF AND DEBRIS ALL OVER THE PLACE AND THINGS, LEAVING THE PROPERTY AND GOING TO OTHER PROPERTY 
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OWNERS LIKE I WOULD ASSUME THOSE ARE THINGS THAT LIKE YOU SAID. WE CAN ENFORCE THROUGH ORDINANCES AND WE CAN GET THE LOT CLEANED UP. ALONG THAT LINE . CAN I JUST JUMP IN? CAN WE HOLD OFF ON APPROVING THE PERMIT AND REQUIRES, YOU KNOW, DO OUR INSPECTORS JUST GOING JUST GOING TO SAY THAT HE DOES NOT HAVE A PERMIT NOW EXPIRED MAY 31ST SO HE IS WITHOUT A PERSON. THERE'S NO URGENCY FOR US TO APPROVE IT. WE DON'T SEE ANY MATERIAL. WE DON'T SEE ANY ACTIVITY. THIS PUTS SOME INCENTIVE ON HIM TO GET SOME ACTIVITY. MAKE SURE THAT MATERIAL COMES IN. SECURE THE SITE CLEAN UP THE SITE. WE CAN ENFORCE ALL THOSE THINGS. NOW HE CAN CLEAN IT UP AND DO ALL THAT WE SEE THE MATERIALS HERE, AND HE'S READY TO GO. A NEW SET OF BRIQUETTES SITTING OUTSIDE. OKAY, YOU NEED A BUILDING PERMIT. THAT WOULD THEORETICALLY DELAY IT BY MAXIMUM OF TWO WEEKS, RIGHT BECAUSE HE GETS THE BUILDING PERMIT. AND OR HE GETS THE MATERIAL IN A THURSDAY AND HE'S GOING TO WAIT UNTIL TWO THURSDAYS LATER, THE NO. I WOULD I WOULD FOLLOW YOUR RECOMMENDATION AGAIN. I DON'T WANT TO. PUT YOU IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS. I GUESS THE ONLY NEGATIVE IS THEN THE BUILDING PERMIT WOULD BE 180 DAYS FROM THAT DATE, WHICH WOULD BE EVEN FURTHER IN THE FUTURE. HOW LONG DOES HOW LONG DO YOU THINK HE NEEDS IN ORDER TO CONSTRUCT THIS ONCE HE HAS MATERIAL. UM YOU KNOW THESE YEAH. THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE MATERIALS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT ALL MATERIALS I DON'T KNOW ABOUT APPLIANCES. YOU KNOW , WE'RE JUST WORRIED ABOUT THE EXTERIOR. I THINK THAT'S THE MATERIALS. I THINK ONCE THE SHELL IS DONE I THINK MOST EVERYBODY WILL BE SATISFIED. I HAVE NO I HAVE NO WAY THAT YOU KNOW WHAT'S IN IT COMPLETED BY NOVEMBER. BY NOVEMBER. IT'S GONNA TAKE REAL. IT'S GOING TO TAKE THREE MONTHS FOR HIM TO GET THE MATERIAL AND THEN HE'S GOING TO STILL FINISH IT BY NOVEMBER. 
          THAT'S WHAT HE TOLD ME. OKAY SO WHAT ARE WE TALKING TO? IN JULY AUGUST? RIGHT, SO HE'S GOING TO DO IT 90 DAYS. YEAH. YEAH ALL RIGHT. SO BEFORE BEFORE WE IF YOU IF THIS IS THE DIRECTION MONTHS AGO, UH, ONE SCENARIO IS AH APPROVED. AN EXTENSION FOR OUR NORMAL 180 DAYS, BUT BEFORE I DO THAT, CLEAN UP THE SIDE AND GIVE ME VERIFICATION THAT THE SUPPLIES ARE COMING. ARRIVED. 
          OKAY BUT THE THAT THAT RESETS THE CLOCK. WELL I WAS GOING TO FOLLOW UP WITH IF HE THINKS HE CAN GET IT DONE IN 90 DAYS, THEN CONDITION UPON THE SITE BEING CLEANED UP EVERYTHING BEING IN ORDER AND ADDRESSING CONCERNS WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND WHATEVER ELSE NEEDS TO BE DONE TO SECURE. 
          THE SITE UNDER ORDINANCES HAS MATERIAL COMES IN OUR CONTRADICT MYSELF EARLIER BY SAYING, GIVEN THE 90 DAYS RATHER THAN 1 80. IS THAT APPROPRIATE? I MEAN, I BUILT TO CUSTOM HOMES. THERE'S NO WAY WELL, IF HE'S IF HE FINISHES A LOT OF IT, AND IT'S IN SUBSTANTIALLY HEADS EXTERIORS ON IT 90 DAYS AND YOU KNOW HE'S MAKING PROGRESS. YOU CAN'T PUT ANY UNDUE RESTRICTIONS ON THE PERSON. IT'S HAS NO REALISTIC. PODS I MEAN, IT'S RENEWABLE, RIGHT? I MEAN, IF YOU IF HE GETS ALL THE EXTERIOR UP AND THE DOORS ARE IN THE WINDOWS ARE IN THE HOUSE IS SECURED, AND IT'S LIKE, WELL, YOU CAN. YOU CAN TAKE TIME TO FINISH THE INSIDE THE OUTSIDE. WE CARE ABOUT FINISHING IN THE STRUCTURE SO CAN YOU SPEAK ON THE 90 VERSES? 1 80. OKAY? TREATING THE SAME AS EVERYBODY ELSE. FIND THE CONDITIONS THAT. YES, VERY. THE TIMES OF THE PERMITS AND. WELL, THEN I GO BACK TO THE PARALLEL PATH, WHICH IS TO ENFORCE EVERYTHING WE HAVE AVAILABLE AND ALLOW THEM THE CHANCE TO ONE MORE TIME UNDERSTANDING THAT IF HE DOESN'T DO EVERYTHING THAT HE CAN DO IN THE TIME FRAME WHEN HE GETS THOSE MATERIALS UM THERE WON'T BE ANOTHER RENEWAL TO FINISH, SO IT'S AT HIS RISK TO FINISH THIS. BUT IF HE SHOWS US SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION BY THAT 90 DAYS OR COMPLETION, UM BUT THE INTERIOR NOT AS WORRIED ABOUT IF HE'S LAYING CARPET. 
          AFTER THAT POINT, BUT THE HOUSE HAS GOT TO BE DONE ON THE OUTSIDE SO THAT IT REALLY ALLEVIATES THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IT CAUSES FOR THE COMMUNITY. GET THE OUTSIDE, DONE AND GRADE THE LOT SO THAT THE LOT ITSELF STOPS BEING DANGEROUS OR SOME KIDS RIDE THEIR BIKE THROUGH. I MEAN, IT'S NOT NO, NO, THEY REMOVE THE FENCE. OKAY. IS THERE ANY WAY TO FORCE OFFENSE UPON THE SITUATION WILL WILL DO ALL WE CAN I WELL WILL MAKE THE WE DON'T HAVE A LEGAL MECHANISM FOR A LIST IN MY MIND OF ALL THE THINGS THAT I'M GONNA ASK HIM TO DO BEFORE WE ISSUE THE BUILDING PERMIT RENEWAL. TRASH THE CLADDING. OFFENSIVE POSSIBLE. I WILL LOOK INTO ALL OUR ALL OUR LEGAL 
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AVENUES. AND THEN WE'LL CONTINUE TO FORCE OUR TRASH ORGANS. ALRIGHT WELL, UNFORTUNATELY, BECAUSE IF WE'RE NOT CHANGING THE LENGTH OF TIME THAT I'D RATHER GET THE CLOCK STARTED NOW RATHER THAN STARTED IN THREE MONTHS FROM NOW. THEREFORE I WOULD GO BACK TO MY ORIGINAL POINT, WHICH IS DO ALL THOSE THINGS UM AND TAKE A WEEK OR TWO TO MAKE SURE THAT HE DOES THE INITIAL STUFF AND YOU GET A CHANCE TO REVIEW BEFORE WE RE ISSUE THIS PERMIT. BUT MAKE SURE IT'S ABUNDANTLY CLEAR. THIS IS THE LAST ONE UNLESS THIS HOUSE WAS DONE OR SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETED ON THE OUTSIDE. ARE WE? ARE WE GOOD THERE, ASHLEY. IN ACTION TO DESIGNATE HIM IN THE BUILDING OFFICIAL AND PEOPLE WANT TO DO THAT, OKAY? COUNSELORS I TALKED A LOT THERE AND PUT A FRAMEWORK OUT THERE, DO YOU? HAVE ANY CONCERNS WITH THAT? I'M ALL FOR EXTENDING THE PERMIT, HOWEVER. I'D RATHER GIVEN A COUPLE OF WEEKS AHEAD OF TIME THINGS CLEANED UP. DEFENSE. 
          THE AREA. NOT THAT OTHER HOMES OF HAVE A FENCE AROUND THEM, EITHER WHILE THEY'RE BEING CONSTRUCT. THAT MIGHT BE AN UNDUE BURDEN. I DON'T KNOW. BUT CAN PUT IT ON HIM AND SEE IF HE FOLLOWS THROUGH. MORE FOR EXTENDING IT WITH PROVISION THAT HE MEET CERTAIN CRITERIA. FIRST CLEANUP. THINGS OF THAT NATURE. GET THE CLADDING BACK ON THE HOUSE AND THE SECURE FORMAT GET THE DEBRIS PICKED UP. WHATEVER ELSE IS APPROPRIATE. BUT GIVE IT A COUPLE OF WEEKS TO MAKE SURE THAT'S ALL THERE. IF YOU FIND THAT IS NOT MAKING ANY PROGRESS THEN BEFORE YOU ISSUE THAT PERMIT, COME BACK HERE AND LET US WAY AND ON THAT. BUT IF YOU IF YOU SEE THAT PROGRESS IS BEING MADE BE MY RECOMMENDATION. TO START THE CLOCK. COUNSELORS. CAN YOU LIVE WITH THAT? YEAH, I THINK I THINK HE NEEDS TO SHOW PROGRESS AND WHEN DID THE HOUSE BUILT SO IT'S PERMIT? ALL RIGHT, SO WE GOT TO BUT YOU'RE RIGHT WITH THAT MAKE THE MOTION. OKAY YOU'RE MAKING A MOTION TO CLARIFY FOR US. WHAT YOUR MOTIONING FOR EXTENDED PERMIT BASED IN SUCH AS CLEAN UP SECURING ANY LOOSE MATERIALS. POSSIBLY OFFENSIVE AIR. LYNN DESIGNATING. THAT'S NEXT. 
          ALRIGHT, I'LL SECOND THAT ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION COUNCILORS. ALRIGHT, LET'S OPEN THE VOTING. 
          ALRIGHT, FOUR AND TWO. ALRIGHT, LET'S GET TO WORK ON THAT. THIS SENSITIVE ONE. ALL RIGHT AT THIS 
          [6. EXECUTIVE SESSION]
TIME. WE DO HAVE EXECUTIVE SESSION UNDER SECTIONS 51071. 551.87 WE'RE GOING TO CONVENE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS THE ITEMS NOTED ON THE AGENDA. WE DO HAVE THE POSSIBILITY OF COMING BACK INTO OPEN SESSION TO DISCUSS AN ITEM RELATED TO SEVEN A THIS EVENING. 
          NO, SIR. WE'RE NOT READY FOR THAT. OKAY WE'RE NOT READY. SO WE'RE NOT PLANNING TO DO THAT. 
          ALL RIGHT. SO WHILE WE DO HAVE THE OPTION TO COME OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION TO TAKE ACTION ON THE ITEMS LISTED. WE DON'T FORESEE THAT THIS EVENING.
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