[1. CALL TO ORDER]
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          GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THIS IS THE NORTH LAKE TOWN COUNCIL MEETING IS 5 31 PM SEPTEMBER 8TH AND WE'RE GONNA GET STARTED HERE TONIGHT. WE HAVE FIVE COUNCILORS IN ATTENDANCE SO FAR THIS EVENING, ONE COUNSELOR ONLINE VIA VIDEO BILL. IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU, SIR. 
          SORRY THAT YOU'RE LAID UP AND HOPE FOR YOUR QUICK RECOVERY. AND PASTOR, IF YOU'D SAY A WORD OF PRAYER FOR HIM IN A MINUTE, TWISTED HIS ANKLE PRETTY BADLY, I UNDERSTAND, BUT IT'S GONNA BE LAID UP FOR A WHILE. SO I APPRECIATE YOU JOINING US TONIGHT, BILL. I KNOW IT'S A CHALLENGE TO BE ONLINE. BUT THANK YOU FOR DOING YOUR JOB EVEN FROM FROM HOSPITAL ROOM. 
          ALRIGHT SO, UH, AS WE NORMALLY DO, WE DO OUR INVOCATION IN THE PLEDGES. SO HAVE PASTOR HARDING COME UP OUR CHAPLAIN. INTRODUCE YOURSELF, ALTHOUGH YOU DON'T NEED AN INTRODUCTION TO MOST OF US INTRODUCE YOURSELF FOR THE FOR THE VIDEO FOR ANYBODY ONLINE AND OPEN IT TONIGHT. THANK YOU, PASTOR MATTHEW HARDING, CHAPLAIN WITH THE NORTH LAKE PD AND GRATEFUL TO BE WITH US TO PRAY AND LEAD US TO GET OUR HEARTS ORIENTED TOWARD GOOD THINGS FOR US. WHILE WE JUST PAUSE AND WE SAY THANK YOU AND LORD IS A PRIVILEGE ANYTIME. IN A BUSY DAY THAT WE COULD JUST STOP AND JUST KIND OF ORIENT OUR HEARTS TO BE REMINDED THAT YOU'RE GOOD AND GRACIOUS GOD, YOUR SOVEREIGN LORD, YOU'RE IN CHARGE OF ALL THINGS AND FATHER. YOU LOVE US. YOU PURSUE US. YOUR FATHER. 
          THANK YOU THAT YOU CARE ABOUT EVEN THINGS IN A CITY LEVEL ON THE TOWN HALL AND THE COUNSELORS IN ALL THE BUSINESS BEFORE THIS CITY. MY FATHER GOT JUST ASK TONIGHT FOR GRACE AND HELP AS WE CONSIDER ALL THE THINGS ON THE DOCKET. I PRAY TO GOD YOU GIVE US A RIGHT PERSPECTIVE. GOOD ATTITUDES AND LORD, HELP US TO LEAD WITH FAITHFULNESS. WE PRAY FOR OUR FRIEND BILL. WE JUST PRAY FOR HEALING. LORD IS HE'S IN THE HOSPITAL. WE ASK FOR GRACE UPON HIM AND FATHER. I PRAY FOR A QUICK RECOVERY AND A FULL RECOVERY. LORD, WE ASK THESE THINGS BECAUSE WE LOVE YOU. AND WE KNOW THAT YOU CARE FOR US. WE ASK THAT YOU BLESS THIS TOWN COUNCILORS, THOSE WHO WORK ON OUR STAFF, THOSE POLICE OFFICERS, THOSE CITIES, SERVANTS AND PUBLIC WORK OFFICERS. WE JUST ASK FOR GRACE, NORTHLAKE AND WHAT WE LOVE YOU. WE ASK IT IN THE POWERFUL NAME OF JESUS. 
          AMEN. PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE IS. VICIOUS SENSE. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE TWO BRIEFINGS TONIGHT TO GET STARTED, SO I'LL TURN TO OUR 
          [2A. Briefing - Comprehensive Plan Update Process]
STAFF TO TALK US THROUGH THESE PERSONAL. THE FIRST ONE IS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE PROCESS. THIS WAS PROCURED AS PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS. UM THIS YEAR THAT WE JUST COMPLETED AND SO THE FUNDING FOR THIS IS PROCURED AND THEREFORE WE WANT STAFF TO WALK US THROUGH WHAT THE PROCESS MAY LOOK LIKE IN ORDER TO GET THIS GET THIS ROLLING. IT'S A LENGTHY PROCESS, AND SO WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND ALL THE STEPS THAT WILL BE INVOLVED IN IT. MR CORN. THANK YOU, MAYOR COUNCILORS. I DON'T HAVE MY HAVE TO LOOK UP HERE. I DON'T HAVE MY CONFIDENCE MONITOR HERE. YES AS THE MAYOR SAID, THIS WAS, UM UM THIS IS THE PROCESS. WE WANT TO BE VERY DELIBERATIVE AND MAKE SURE THAT COUNCIL AS THEY HAVE IN THE PAST AS FULL UNDERSTANDING OF THIS PROCESS. 
          WE HAVE A DRAFT RFP IN YOUR PACKET. YOU SAW THAT EARLIER RIGHT AFTER THE STRATEGIC PLAN, BUT GETTING BRINGING THAT TO YOU? AGAIN, UM. YOU KNOW THE BEST PRACTICES TO HAVE THESE ABOUT EVERY 5 10 YEARS AND WE'RE ABOUT A 67 YEAR AVERAGE. UH, SO IT IS DUE AND IT WAS A PRIORITY AT YOUR STRATEGIC PLANNING RETREAT TO BRING THIS BACK UP. UM AND THEN, AS THE MAYOR SAID, WE HAVE AMOUNT BUDGETED FOR THAT. THIS IS THE PROCESS WILL WITH UNLESS YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO BRING US BACK OR HAVE SOME SOME PRETTY SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO THE RFP. WE'RE GONNA PUT THAT ON THE STREET WILL BRING YOU BACK RECOMMENDATION OR WE CAN BRING YOU BACK A LIST OF ALL OF THOSE , IF YOU LET US KNOW WHAT YOUR WANT TO STRESS WILL MAKE SURE WE MAKE THAT A HIGH PRIORITY ON ON WHICH CONSULTANT WE USE. UM. AND THEN WE'LL BEGIN THE PROCESS AND IT WILL BE A LENGTHY PROCESS. IT WILL BE AN 8 TO 9 MONTH. FACT GATHERING, UM. SO ONE THING WE HAVE USED IN THE PAST IS A 
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STEERING COMMITTEE. UH, IT WAS WE'VE USED EXISTING BOARDS FOR THAT. WHEN WE LAST DID THIS, WE DID NOT HAVE PE AND Z, WHICH IS THE MORE NATURAL, UH, COMMITTEE FOR THIS TYPE OF EFFORT. UM BUT, UM SO UM TYPICALLY, UM. THIS PROCESS STARTS WITH PLANNING AND ZONING BECAUSE THIS IS PART OF PLANNING. UM AND ALSO TO HELP WITH THIS TO GET MORE REPRESENTATION IS A STEERING COMMITTEE. IT'S PRIMARILY MADE OF RESIDENTS. OBVIOUSLY, P AND Z IS ALL RESIDENTS. BUT ALSO. 
          BECAUSE THIS, UM WE WANT THIS. COM PLAN TO BE BASED IN REALITY UNDERSTANDING OF THE MARKET. 
          WHAT'S POSSIBLE WHAT'S FEASIBLE. WE ALSO INCLUDE LANDOWNERS BECAUSE THEIR PROPERTY COULD BE DEVELOPED. SO GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM. WE HAVE WE HAVE PEOPLE IN THE REAL ESTATE MARKET. WE HAVE BUILDERS SERVING AS, UM UM. KIND OF EXPERTS IN THEIR FIELD, AND THEY'RE THEY'RE AS AS, UM ASSISTANCE. THEY ARE NOT TO DRIVE THE PROCESS. THIS IS YOUR PROCESS. THIS IS UM, THIS IS FOR THE STEERING COMMITTEE'S BENEFIT TO HAVE SOME OF THESE EXPERTS ON WHAT WHAT THE MARKETS DICTATING NOW WHAT THE POTENTIAL LANDOWNERS HAVE ENVISIONED FOR THEIR PROPERTY. UM AND THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY. THAT NOT THAT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY HAPPEN. IT IS. IT IS UP TO THE COUNCIL TO DETERMINE WHAT THEIR WHAT THE PLAN IS FOR YOUR TOWN. AND SO, UM AND WE ALSO INCLUDE UH AGAIN AS KIND OR OR SUBJECT MATTER. EXPERTS IS SOME OF OUR REGIONAL PROVIDERS LIKE TEXTILE, UNDERSTAND, UM WE MIGHT WE'RE PROBABLY INCLUDE OUR I T C TRANSPORTATION CONSULTANT AS WELL AS WE UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENING IN TRANSPORTATION OR RETAIL SUPER PROVIDER OR JOSE WATER PROVIDERS. SO WE UNDERSTAND KIND OF THE LARGER INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUES. UM. WE'VE IN THE PAST AND IN IN IN IN THE FUTURE AS WELL. WE HOPE TO USE MULTIPLE MEANS TO GET INFORMATION FROM THE RESIDENTS. FOCUS GROUPS VERY COMMON. UM WE DID THAT IN THE PAST AND HAD WORKSHOPS UM OPEN HOUSE TOWN HALL MEETINGS WHERE WE ALLOW PEOPLE TO COME IN AND LOOK AT VARIOUS DISPLAYS HAVE KIND OF INTERACTIVE. UM, ACTIVITIES. 
          SOMETHING WE DON'T HAVE PASSED ALSO IS KIND OF POP UP SURVEYS. SOMETIMES WE INCLUDE THAT AS PART OF OUR NORMAL RESIDENTS SURVEY. WE'VE OVERLAP THEM BEFORE. OTHER TIMES WE JUST DO A SPECIAL SURVEY JUST FOR THIS. WE CAN DO IT THROUGH SURVEYMONKEY. WE COULD DO IT THROUGH MAIL. WE COULD DO IT A WATER BILL, INSERT. AND THEN THE LAST AREA WE'RE KIND OF EXCITED ABOUT IS THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF UM ALRIGHT, HEADWAY MADE OR A LOT OF ADVANCEMENT MADE IN INTERACTIVE WEBSITES, AND SO YOU CAN GET A LOT OF THIS STUFF DONE INTERACTIVELY AND YOU CAN HAVE MAPS AND YOU CAN PULL STUFF IN. YOU CAN MAKE YOUR, UH YOU CAN MAKE YOUR PREFERENCES KNOWN, AND WE CAN COMPILE THAT AND WE COULD REACH OUT MORE PEOPLE THAN JUST COULD BE AT A AT A TOWN HALL. 
          AND THERE'S EVEN EXERCISES WHERE KIND OF A BUDGETING EXERCISE WHERE I'D LIKE ALL THESE THINGS. 
          THE PROGRAM CALCULATES THE COST AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE TO KIND OF BALANCE THE BUDGET OF YOUR COMPLAINT. SO SOME GREAT TOOLS THAT WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO USING AN INCREASING OUR REACH. 
          SO COVID FORCED THIS ON KIND OF THE PLANNING COMMUNITY. AND. I THINK IT'S GONNA BE A GREAT BENEFIT. IT WILL HELP US AGAIN, BUT EVEN FURTHER REACH, UM SO THE APPROVAL PROCESS WILL BE A RECOMMENDATION FROM P AND Z AND THEN IT WILL ULTIMATELY BE TOWN COUNCILS PLAN THAT THEY ADOPT. 
          SO ANY QUESTIONS ANYTHING YOU WANT US TO REALLY FOCUS ON ANY UH, ANY AREAS ALSO. PART OF THIS IN THE RFP IS, UH, TOWN HALL LOCATION. AND UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE WHAT THE RESIDENTS ENVISION FOR THAT KIND OF WHAT THE LOCATION BEST LOCATION WOULD BE, AND WE KNOW THAT'S ALSO A PRIORITY OF COUNCIL. SO AS DESCRIBED HERE, THE RFP GOES OUT . THEY'VE GOT TILL THE 10TH TO 
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RESPOND AS FAR AS QUESTIONS OPERATING RFP CORRECT. CAN. THE BIDS ARE DUE. AND LATER IN OCTOBER. UM. YEAH WE TRY TO WRAP IT UP MID OCTOBER SO WE COULD BRING YOU SOMETHING BACK IN NOVEMBER. THERE'S USUALLY A COUPLE OF ROUNDS AND THEN WE'LL ANYBODY THAT SHOWS INTEREST WILL GIVE THEM ALL THE QUESTIONS FROM THE RESPONDERS. SO IT'S A BIT OF AN ITERATIVE PROCESS. I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY WE TRY TO INCLUDE EVERYTHING, BUT THE PROPOSALS MAY HAVE SOME SPECIFIC QUESTIONS AND WILL COMMUNICATE THOSE QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS TO ALL THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE ALL THE GROUPS FIRMS THAT HAVE PROPOSED. HOW IS STAFF GOING TO EVALUATE THESE BIDS? WE USUALLY HAVE A COMMITTEE. WE HAVE A THERE'S A IN THE RFP. THERE'S A PERCENTAGE BREAKDOWN OF THE AREAS. UM TWO WHAT WILL EMPHASIZE I DON'T KNOW WHAT PAYS THAT IS. COULD YOU MUTE HIM? THANK YOU. LET ME GRAB THAT. SECTION FOUR, SECTION FOUR OH, ONE. YEAH. THIS IS OUR DRAFT CRITERIA IF YOU'D LIKE TO WAIT OTHER AREAS, UH, DIFFERENTLY. UM YOU CAN OBVIOUSLY PROJECT APPROACH. YOU KNOW THE TIMELINE THAT'S WAITED THE MOST 25% BUT WE HAVE A NUMBER OF AREAS. THAT WE'VE WE WAITED, SO THIS WILL THIS WILL BE THE SCORING CRITERIA. SO BASED ON THE TIMELINE HERE, IT'LL BE LATE OCTOBER WHEN THEIR PROPOSALS THAT WE DO, BUT WE WON'T SEE THIS UNTIL NOVEMBER, I PRESUME. UH, THEIR RESPONSES. YES. ALRIGHT AND IN OCTOBER IN OUR OCTOBER MEETING, WHICH IS LATE IN THE MONTH WELL, WE HAVE ON OUR MEETING THE ABILITY TO KNOW WHO BID AT THAT POINT, OR IS IT GOING TO BE TOO LATE FOR THE MEETING? UM WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO COVER MEETINGS, THE 13TH. THAT'S PRETTY EARLY IF YOUR WINDOW IS STILL OPEN TILL THE 21ST YEAH, WE PROBABLY WON'T HAVE THAT READY. WHAT WE CAN DO IS WE CAN COMMUNICATE THE EMAIL. UM, WHO ELSE PROPOSED COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO KEPT ABREAST OF THE OF THE PROJECT. I THINK IT'S JUST USEFUL FOR US TO BE ABLE TO SPEND THE TIME TO GO OUT AND BEFORE WE HAVE TO SELECT TO DO SOME HOMEWORK AND SEE WHAT THESE YOU KNOW WHERE THESE FIRMS HAVE WORKED BEFORE, AND GET A SENSE OF THE WORK PRODUCT THAT THEY'VE DONE BEFORE. I KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING I WANT TO SEE FROM SOME OTHER TOWNS, RIGHT, BUT THAT'S A THAT'S ON THE SCORING CRITERIA SO THEY'LL NEED TO PROVIDE US REFERENCES AND PROJECT EXPERIENCE. SO THOSE TWO TOGETHER 30% OF YOUR SCORING CRITERIA. SO THEY WILL HAVE TO PROVIDE EXAMPLES AND WE'LL GIVE YOU AND YOU KNOW THAT? THAT REVIEW COMMITTEE IS UP TO YOU. IF YOU IF YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE A COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVE ON IT, OR IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE THE DECISION YOURSELF AS A COUNCIL. UM. I WOULDN'T MIND IF SOMEONE FROM HERE WOULD LIKE TO VOLUNTEER TO BE ON THAT COMMITTEE TO GET THE FIRST LOOK AT IT AND IT WOULD BE HELPFUL. WE'VE DONE THAT IN THE PAST AS WELL. SO OKAY. DO YOU MEAN THAT DIRECTION NOW I KNOW WE HAVE SOME TIME, SO OKAY. BUT YEAH. WELL, THE NEXT I MEAN, WHAT'S THE 13TH? OCTOBER? 13TH THE PROPOSALS DON'T COME INTO THE 21ST. OKAY. WE HAVE SOME TIME. 
          SO MAYBE AT OUR NEXT MEETING IF SOMEONE FROM HERE WOULD LIKE TO VOLUNTEER FOR THAT COMMITTEE, WE CAN DISCUSS THAT. AND GET SOMEBODY ON THERE JUST TO BE AT THE EARLY PART OF THIS. UM IN CASE BECAUSE THERE'S ALWAYS THINGS THAT COME UP WHEN YOU GET INTO IT THAT YOU KNOW SHOULD BE CONSIDERED. AND WHILE IT WOULDN'T BE PART OF THE HARD SCORING, AT LEAST YOU CAN PROVIDE A PERSPECTIVE. INDIVIDUALLY. BUT THAT THAT MIGHT BE USEFUL. I APPRECIATE THAT. COUNSELORS ANY OTHER THOUGHTS YOU HAVE ABOUT THE RFP. NO, I'M REALLY PROUD OF BOB DREW AND STAFF FOR LAYING OUT THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS BE DRIVEN BY THE TOWN OWNERSHIP AND TOWN COUNCIL, TOM RESIDENCES, SINCE I THINK IN THE PAST ONE IT IT GOT A LITTLE LITTLE OUT OF CONTROL. UM NOT THE RIGHT WORD, BUT THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN APPROVED BY COUNCIL, BUT IT WAS VERY MUCH DRIVEN BY THE CONSULTANT. FROM EVERY TAKE. I HAVE OF IT. SO I THINK, UM WE'VE DONE VERY GOOD 
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WITH THE LAST COUPLE OF THINGS WE'VE DONE LIKE THIS, AND I APPRECIATE YOU, SPEAKING OF MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT THIS IS RESIDENT AND COUNCIL DRIVEN. ABSOLUTELY. I'M GOOD ON THE RFP. FOR THE MOMENT COUNSELORS HAVE ANYTHING ELSE. BILL. I'M GOING TO CHECK IN WITH YOU ON EACH ITEM. MAKE SURE IF YOU IF YOU WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING, JUST WAVE AT ME TO MAKE SURE WE GET YOU INCLUDED IN THE CONVERSATION. OTHERWISE WE CAN KEEP ROLLING WITHOUT UM, YOU KNOW, CALLING ON YOU, SO JUST INTERJECT IF YOU NEED TO, BUT I'LL CHECK IN WITH YOU AFTER EACH ITEM BEFORE WE MOVE ON. OKAY, VERY GOOD. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. NEXT ITEM ON THE 
          [2B. Briefing - Agricultural Zoning District Update]
AGENDA TONIGHT. ITEM B IS AN UPDATE ON THE AGRICULTURAL ZONING DISTRICT. PROPOSAL. I THINK YOU, MAYOR. ALRIGHT SO STEPH PRESENTED THIS PROPOSAL TO CREATE A EGGS OWNING DISTRICT COUPLE OF COUNCIL MEETINGS AGO. AH FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS. IT'S A BETTER WAY TO IMPLEMENT THE VISION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. ALSO HAS A SECONDARY BENEFIT OF BEING ABLE TO PROHIBIT SOME NON AGRICULTURAL USES THAT ARE CURRENTLY ALLOWED AND RURAL RESIDENTIAL WHICH KIND OF SERVES AS OUR AH, DEFACTO USE DISTRICT RIGHT NOW. UH WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT IT BEING A TWO STEP PROCESS. THE FIRST STEP IS CREATING THE ZONING DISTRICT THROUGH UDC AMENDMENT. AND THEN AFTER THAT CREATED THE SECOND STEP IS REZONING THE ACTUAL PROPERTIES TO AG CAN BE AT THE OWNER'S REQUEST OR EVEN COULD BE TOWN INITIATED. SO THERE'S CONSENSUS BETWEEN THE P N Z AND THE COUNCIL TO MOVE FORWARD WITH CREATING THE DISTRICT. THERE IS ALSO CONSIDERS THAT THERE IS CONCERN ABOUT FORCING THIS UPON PROPERTY OWNERS. SO WE'RE JUST REMINDER. THIS IS JUST THE FIRST STEP CREATING THE DISTRICT, WHICH ADDS THAT THAT OPTION AND THEN WE CAN MOVE FORWARD FROM THAT POINT. UM THE ORIGINAL GOAL WAS TO HAVE UDC AMENDMENT FOR YOU TO ACT ON BUT DUE TO PUBLIC HEARING NOTIFICATION LEAD TIMES , WE WEREN'T ABLE TO DO THAT FOR THIS MEETING TO GET IT TO P AND Z BEFORE THE HAS TO REVIEW AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION SO JUST WANTED TO BRING A DRAFT VERSION TO YOU TO PROVIDE SOME INPUT. THIS WAS PRESENTED TO, UH PANSY AT THEIR THEIR MEETING LAST WEEK AS WELL. SO UM, THE PROPOSED EGG ZONING DISTRICT IS ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE THERE AND EXISTING RURAL RESIDENTIAL REQUIREMENTS ARE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, SO START OUT. WE'LL LOOK AT THE DIMENSIONAL AND DEVELOPMENTAL STANDARDS. SO UM, MINIMUM LOT SIZE AS WE DISCUSSED BEFORE THE PROPOSAL IS TO SET THAT AT 20 ACRES. UM. LOT WIDTH AND DEPTH. THE UH, DRAFT PROPOSAL IS SETTING THAT AT 500 SO JESUS AND KEEP IN MIND. THESE ARE MINIMUMS AND REALLY, FOR THIS ZONING DISTRICT. IT'S PROBABLY NOT TOO IMPORTANT BECAUSE YOU'RE THIS IS USUALLY GOING TO COME INTO PLAY WHEN SOMEBODY'S GONNA SUBDIVIDE PROPERTY. YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO SEE A LOT OF THESE EGGS OWNING PROPERTIES SUBDIVIDED AS IT'S ZONED AG. BUT IF SO, YOU WANT TO HAVE SOME LIMITATIONS ON IT, AND, UM SO 500 FT BY 1750 FT WOULD CREATE A, UM JUST OVER 20 ACRE LOT JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE PERSPECTIVE ON HOW THAT WOULD WORK. THEN THE PROPOSED SETBACKS ARE 100 FT. ACROSS THE BOARD WITH 20 ACRES. YOU GOT QUITE A BIT OF ROOM SO YOU CAN HAVE GREATER SETBACKS ALL AROUND , ALSO FOR CERTAIN ABUSES FOR STRUCTURES LIKE STABLES AND STUFF. YOU PROBABLY WANT TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF A SETBACK AND IF IT'S ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES OR PROPERTIES, NOT AT THE SAME USE. UM. THEN THERE'S SOME MISCELLANEOUS LOT REQUIREMENTS, SUCH AS THE MINIMUM DWELLING UNIT AREA. IN RURAL RESIDENTIAL AS WELL AS THE RULE OF STATE. 
          THE MINIMUM IS 1500 OR PROPOSING A LITTLE BIT SMALLER AT 1200 HERE. JUST GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY THAT YOU COULD HAVE LIKE A CARETAKER RESIDENCE. ON IT MAKE A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO DEVELOP HOME FOR THAT PURPOSE. UM MAX HIGH, THE SAME AS AS RURAL RESIDENTIAL. THAT'S KIND OF ACROSS THE BOARD, 35 FT FOR OUR RESIDENTIAL AND CARRY THAT OVER TO AG. UM MAXIMUM COVERAGE. IS, 
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UH. 25% IN RURAL RESIDENTIAL PROPOSE A LITTLE BIT LESS AND EGG ZONING DISTRICT. THESE COVERAGES USUALLY DON'T COME INTO PLAY. YOU WERE CLOSE BECAUSE THESE ARE SUCH LARGE PROPERTIES. AND ALL DISCUSS A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THIS KEY AND WHAT THOSE ITEMS INCLUDE SO, UH, SO CURRENTLY, UH THERE'S A KEY AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS SECTION THAT REFERENCES REFERENCES. CERTAIN NOTES. ONE OF THOSE IS THE DEFINITION OF MAX COVERAGE. UM SO WE'RE PROPOSING TO KEEP THAT THE SAME. AS USED IN RURAL RESIDENTIAL INCLUDE THAT IN THE AG USE AND THEN YOU'LL NOTICE THERE'S A UMY IN RURAL RESIDENTIAL. IT ALLOWS A MAX HEIGHT EXEMPTION FOR UP TO 50 FT FOR SM X STRUCTURES LIKE SILOS OR BARNS. AND AN ALLOWANCE TO EVEN INCREASE ABOVE THAT, WITH APPROVAL OF THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT. SO WE THOUGHT WITH THE CREATION OF THE EGG ZONING DISTRICT, CARRY THAT OVER THERE AND DON'T ALLOW THAT IN RURAL RESIDENTIAL, WHICH MAY NOT BE AS APPROPRIATE AND THE MORE RESIDENTIAL SETTING. BUT, UH. KEEP THE REQUIREMENT BE FOR ALL SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DWELLINGS TO INCLUDING ENCLOSED GARAGE. BUT NOT REQUIRE THAT IN THE AG ZONING DISTRICT AND THEN FOR RURAL RESIDENTIAL, THERE'S A REFERENCE TO ADDITIONAL DESIGN REQUIREMENTS IN THE U. D. C FOR STRUCTURES. AND THAT WOULDN'T APPLY TO THE EGG ZONING DISTRICT , EITHER. SO, UM SO IT HAS SOME STRICTER STANDARDS, LARGER LOT SIZES, BUT SOME LESS, UM, LESS STRICT STANDARDS WHEN IT COMES TO LIKE MINIMUM DWELLING UNIT AREA AND HEIGHT FOR AG STRUCTURES. NEXT ONE TALK ABOUT PROPOSED PERMITTED USES. SO WE'VE GOT CURRENT RURAL RESIDENTIAL AND PROPOSED WITH THE PROPOSED EXAMINING DISTRICT. SO OF COURSE, FARM RANCHING ORCHARD IS PERMITTED USE ACROSS THE BOARD AS A REMINDER OF THE P STANDS FOR PERMITTED. THAT'D BE USE PERMITTED BY RIGHT THE S IS PERMITTED WITH APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT, AND THAT'S A ZONING PERMIT. IT WOULD HAVE TO COME BEFORE COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL AND THE BLANK. AND THE BLANK MEANS THAT IT'S NOT PERMITTED AT ALL. SO, UH, SO YOU LOOK THEIR LIVESTOCK AUCTION IS ALLOWED WITH A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT AND RURAL RESIDENTIAL. AH WITH THE CREATION OF AN AG ZONING DISTRICT THAT SEEMS MORE APPROPRIATE TO KEEP AN AG NOT HAVING REAL RESIDENTIAL SAME WITH THE RECREATIONAL RANCH DUDE RANCH, WHICH WAS ACTUALLY USE CREATED TO COVER THE OLD TEXAS LIL DUDE RANCH. UM COMMERCIAL STABLES BE PERMITTED IN THE AG ZONING DISTRICT, BUT NOT IN RURAL RESIDENTIAL, BUT PRIVATE STABLES WOULD BE PERMITTED IN BOTH. UM. AND MOVED DOWN TO EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONAL TYPE USES, CHURCHES WOULD BE ALLOWED WITH SPECIFIC USE PERMITS ACROSS THE BOARD IN THESE DISTRICTS. YOU CANNOT PROHIBIT CHURCHES. DUE TO FEDERAL LAW. AND, UH, THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS AS WE'VE DISCUSSED. ONE ADVANTAGE OF CREATING THIS ACT DISTRICT IS THAT WE COULD RESTRICT THEM PROHIBIT THEM FROM THE EGG ZONING DISTRICT. WE WOULD KEEP THEM WITH SPECIFIC USE, PERMIT APPROVAL AND REAL RESIDENTIAL. AND THE GREENHOUSES IS ANOTHER ONE THAT PROPOSE REMOVING THAT OPTION FROM RURAL RESIDENTIAL, KEEPING IT WITH A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT AND AG. AND OF COURSE, ALLOWING SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED ACROSS THE BOARD. AND, UM. ADDED IN HERE FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES , RECREATIONAL VEHICLES AND HUT CODE MANUFACTURED HOMES, MOBILE HOMES. THERE'S AN OPTION TO MAYBE CONSIDER IN THE EGG ZONING DISTRICT, THE P AND Z. GAVE US AND THAT THEIR CONSISTENCE WAS THAT THEY SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED AND ANY OF THESE DISTRICTS SO I JUST WANTED TO RUN THIS KIND OF ROUGH DRAFT BY BY YOU AND GET YOUR INPUT ON THE PROPOSED 
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STANDARDS, AND THEN WE'LL DRAFT UP SOMETHING FOR THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING FOR YOU TO CONSIDER. LIKE TO ASK A FEW QUESTIONS HERE. SO ON THE MINIMUM DRILLING DWELLING UNIT AREA FOR RURAL RESIDENTIAL, IT'S 1500 SQUARE FEET AND 1200 FOR AGRICULTURAL SO WHAT'S THE THOUGHT PROCESS AND WHY THAT 300 FT MAKES A DIFFERENCE. THAT'S A PRETTY SMALL STRUCTURE. WHAT'S WHAT KIND OF STRUCTURE ARE WE TALKING ABOUT IT AT HOME THAT SIZE? YEAH. 1500 FT. ISN'T. THAT BIG EITHER. HERE RIGHT IS JUST 300 DIFFERENCE, BUT YOU COULD MAYBE DO THIS TWO BEDROOM STRUCTURE WERE PART OF THAT THERE'S KIND OF SOMETIMES A NEED OR DESIRE TO HAVE A CARETAKER ON THE PROPERTY THAT YOU MAY NOT WANT TO BUILD A GIANT HOME AND THIS WOULD PROVIDE FOR THAT THAT NEED ANOTHER THING WE TALKED ABOUT TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO CHANGE TO AG ZONING DISTRICT. 
          MAYBE GIVE A LITTLE BIT ON SOME STANDARDS. SO THAT WAS THAT WAS ONE PROPOSAL. WE DID KIND OF TALK THIS OVER WITH PANSY. WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO GO EVEN LESS ON THAT? AND THEY THOUGHT 1200 WAS WAS GOOD ON THAT ANOTHER OPTION IS YOU COULD GO MAYBE HIGHER ON RESIDENTIAL OR SOME OF THE OTHER ZONING DISTRICTS. KIND OF YOUR RANCH HAND THAT MIGHT BE ON THE PROPERTY. BUT OKAY, YEAH. 
          I JUST WANTED TO HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE RATIONALE FOR THE DIFFERENCE BECAUSE IT'S NOT VERY MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE, BUT IT IS GOING DOWN AND THAT ON A 20 ACRE PLOT. THAT'S A PRETTY SMALL STRUCTURE FOR 20 ACRE PLOT. SO AND THAT'S HELPFUL, UM , ON THE MAXIMUM COVERAGE, YOU KNOW, WE OBVIOUSLY WANT TO MOVE FROM YOU KNOW TOWARDS LESSER COVERAGE. BUT IF YOU'RE TAKING 25% OF FIVE ACRES, AND YOU CAN HAVE UP TO AN ACRE AND A QUARTER OF STRUCTURES ON A FIVE ACRE LOT AND YOU GO TO 15 OR 23 ACRES, SO YOU'RE ACTUALLY ALLOWING UP TO DOUBLE THE COVERAGE ON THAT PARTICULAR PARCEL? NO, NOT FROM A PERCENTAGE BASIS. I GET THAT THE PERCENTAGE HAS GONE DOWN, BUT THAT'S AN AWFUL LOT OF STRUCTURE FOR AN AGRICULTURAL ZONING DISTRICT. WHAT KIND OF USE WOULD NEED THREE ACRES OF COVERAGE OF BUILDINGS ON AG ZONE? SO. YOU KNOW GREENHOUSE LIFESTYLE, THE LIVESTOCK AUCTION. ALL RIGHT, SO THOSE ARE SOME THINGS THAT MAY NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE STABLE. OKAY, ALRIGHT, THAT MAKES SENSE. IN OUR PERMITTED USE TABLE. WE'VE GOT PRIVATE SCHOOLS AS SPECIAL USE PERMIT AND UP ON YOUR PRESENTATION. THAT'S NOT SO WHICH ONE IS IT? THE. YOUR SLIDE HAS IT DOES NOT HAVE IT ON OUR ON OUR PRINT OUT. IT SHOWS IT AS IN UNDER UNDER AN S. UNDER AG. YES. PRIVATE SCHOOLS ARE PERMITTED BY SPECIAL USE PERMIT AND AG PACKET. THAT WAS ONE THING WE MAY NEED TO DISCUSS WITH OUR ATTORNEY AND WAS BROUGHT UP BY P AND Z. THAT THERE IS A CONCERN IF IT'S A PRIVATE SCHOOL. IF IT'S A RELIGIOUS SCHOOL, WE MAY HAVE DIFFICULTY KEEPING THAT OUT SIMILAR TO HOW YOU CAN'T PROHIBIT CHURCHES THAT BE CORRECT, ACTUALLY. YES INDEED. I DID THE PRESENTATION, SO I THINK THE PROPOSAL WOULD BE TO KEEP IT WITH THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT. ALL RIGHT. SO YOU KNOW, OUR OUR ZONING IS COMMUNICATION OF INTENT. UM IF IT'S ALLOWED BY VIRTUE OF EXISTING LAW, OUR ZONING CZAR RELEVANT IS IT NOT? TWO P PROCESS AND PUT CONDITIONS ON THAT. UM SO YOU YOU STILL HAVE SOME DISCRETION AS IT RELATES TO THOSE CONDITIONS NOW? I MAY TAKE YOU BACK AND SAY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A FEDERAL STATUTE THAT FEDERAL LAW THAT SAYS YOU REALLY SHOULDN'T DENY THIS, BUT YOU CAN DO X Y AND Z BUT WE DON'T HAVE THAT AS IT RELATES TO A PUBLIC SCHOOL. THIS IS THIS IS PHILOSOPHY, NOT A I'M NOT TRYING TO ACHIEVE AN OUTCOME. I'M JUST TRYING TO GET DIRECTION HERE WHEN WE COMMUNICATE BY VIRTUE OF THIS THAT WE SAY IT'S BY SPECIAL USE PERMIT. WE'RE SAYING WE WELCOME IT. WHERE THE CONVERSATION BASICALLY AND I'M ASKING THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER. 
          DO YOU WANT TO SEND THAT SIGNAL OF PRIVATE SCHOOLS AND THE EGG ZONE? THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR IS DO WE HAVE TO PUT IT AS IN THIS SPECIAL USE PERMIT, OR WE CAN JUST LEAVE. IT IS NOT IN THE ZONE. BECAUSE IF THEY COME TO US AND SAY WE'RE A CHURCH SCHOOL AND WERE ALLOWED TO, THEN SO BE IT. YOU'RE ALLOWED TO IF YOU'RE LAW SAYS SO, BUT WE DON'T NEED A THEY DON'T NEED A PERMIT TO DO THAT. IN MY OPINION, YOU SHOULD YOU SHOULD. THEY THAT YOU SHOULD ALLOW. THE S U P OKAY, THAT'S FINE. NO, THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO HEAR. WAS THAT WAS YOUR RECOMMENDATION, ALRIGHT? OKAY. ALL RIGHT, UM. CAN WE CAN WE INCLUDE ARTICLE NINE IN THIS PACKET NEXT TIME I SEE A COPY OF THAT WHEN WE SEE IT NEXT TIME, OKAY? CAN YOU CLARIFY THE RV ON THE PERMITTED USE TABLE? IS THAT 
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AN RV THAT'S THAT'S OCCUPIED AS A RESIDENT RESIDENTS NOT JUST PARKED. YES, ALRIGHT, THANKS. IS THERE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HUD CODE MANUFACTURED HOME AND REGULAR MANUFACTURED HOME BECAUSE A LOT OF RANCH HANDS WILL LIVE IN A DOUBLE, WIDE MANUFACTURED HOME? UM THAT'S PLACED ON THE PROPERTY MUCH LIKE WE HAD, YOU KNOW, FOR A POLICE FOR SOME TIME, SO IS THERE A DIFFERENCE? THERE IS PRETTY MUCH A MODERN MOBILE HOME ANY ANYTHING CREATED IN THE SINCE, LIKE THE SEVENTIES. THAT'S THEIR OFFICIAL CLASSIFICATION. QUESTION THE COUNCIL THERE IS IT SOUNDS LIKE IT MAY HAVE COME UP DISCUSSION. PNC IS IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RANCH HANDS AND PEOPLE LIKE THAT. UM, AND THE NEEDS OF THOSE PEOPLE. WOULD SOME SORT OF MANUFACTURED HOME BE DISALLOWED BECAUSE OF THIS. I MEAN, JUST BECAUSE IT'S BUILT OFF SITE DOESN'T MEAN IT'S NOT QUALITY HOME. WELL, IF IT'S A MODEL HOME BUILT AND PERMANENTLY PUT ON SITE THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED BUT HARDCORE MANUFACTURED HOMES. STAY ON WHEELS. OKAY, SO YOU'RE SAYING NO AXLES. YES ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. BUT OTHERWISE MANUFACTURED HOMES WOULD BE ALLOWED. YES, AND ARE NOW. UM, TELL ME ABOUT GREENHOUSES. THEY'RE LIKE WHAT'S THE THOUGHT BEHIND NOT ALLOWING A GREENHOUSE IN RURAL RESIDENTIAL AND THIS IS COMMERCIAL GREENHOUSE, OKAY? WHERE'S THE LINE NEXT BUILDING UP TO PROVE SOMEBODY WHO'S RUNNING A BUSINESS OUT OF THEIR GREENHOUSE? YES PEOPLE ARE GOING THERE AND BUYING PLANTS CONSTANTLY, OKAY? COMING OFF AND DO THAT THROUGH, DID YOU? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. WITH REGARD TO THEIR SEVERAL COMMERCIAL USES ON HERE. LIVESTOCK AUCTION THE GREENHOUSE NURSERY. THEY'RE ALL UNDER S U P . THE ONE THAT'S NOT IS COMMERCIAL STABLES. SO WHY IS THAT ONE JUST PERMITTED OUTRIGHT INSTEAD OF BY SPECIAL USE, BECAUSE YOU COULD PUT A PRETTY PRETTY HEAVY USE STABLE WITH A LOT OF TRAFFIC. UM WHY WOULDN'T WE WANT THAT? ESPECIALLY USE? REALLY? THESE ARE JUST CARRIED OVER FOR FROM HOW THEY CURRENTLY EXIST IN RURAL RESIDENTIAL. COUNSELORS DO YOU USE? I MEAN, I SEE A LOT OF THESE AS OKAY. THESE ARE INDIVIDUAL USES INDIVIDUAL OWNERS, PRIVATE OWNERSHIP. UM AND ALL THE ONES THAT BASICALLY OUR COMMERCIAL ARE THE ONES THAT REALLY LIKE TO TALK ABOUT BEFORE THEY JUST COME WALKING IN. MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE IMPACT IS TO ROADS AND THE NEIGHBORS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, PRIVATE PRIVATE STABLES AND STUFF ARE GENERALLY NOT AS INTENSIVELY USED. BUT IF YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF LOT OF PEOPLE COMING IN FROM OUTSIDE MIND AND SO ON. ANYTHING REALLY. IT'S KEPT IN THE STABLE. WOULD WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT FIRST BEFORE? IT JUST KIND OF CAME IN? SEEMS LIKE IT DOES MAKE SENSE TO MOVE THAT TO THE COMMERCIAL SIDE OF THE CONVERSATION. AND REQUIRE SPECIFIC REASON WHY THAT ONE WAS PUT AS PERMITTED, ALRIGHT. UH I DON'T. I DON'T NOT KNOW. LIKE I SAID, I WAS JUST CARRYING IT OVER FROM THE EXISTING RURAL RESIDENTIAL. BUT 11 THOUGHT IS, I THINK THE COMMERCIAL STABLE AND I THINK THEY'RE GENERATE QUITE AS MUCH TRAFFIC AS LIKE A LIVESTOCK AUCTION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, OR A OR EVEN A GREENHOUSE NURSERY SITUATIONS THAT MAY BE PART OF IT. I THINK VERY WELL. THAT COULD HAVE JUST BEEN CARRIED OVER FROM WHEN THE UDC WAS CREATED AND COPIED. 
          PARTS OF IT WERE COPY AND PASTED FROM OTHER TOWNS AND THINGS LIKE THAT WAS CARRIED OVER FROM THE ZONING ORDINANCE FROM BEFORE. YES SO I THINK THAT IT PROBABLY WOULD WARRANT DISCUSSION WHERE COMMERCIAL STABLES SHOULD PROBABLY FALL UNDER SPECIAL USE. JUST SO THEY CAN EVER CHECK NEXT TO HIM FIRST. NOT THAT I FORESEE AN ISSUE, BUT IT'S THE ISSUES YOU DON'T FORESEE THAT BITE YOU IN THE BUTTON. I SUSPECT THE IDEA WAS THAT PEOPLE BOARD DEER HORSES THAT. SOMEBODY'S PROPERTY AND WE DON'T WANT TO STOP THAT, OR WE DIDN'T WANT TO STOP THAT. I THINK THAT WAS PROBABLY THE IDEA AROUND JUST PERMITTING IT. IT'S MORE ABOUT BOARDING OTHER PEOPLE'S HORSES, AND IT'S NOT CONSTANT TRAFFIC CUSTOMERS IN AND OUT. I CAN SEE BOTH WAYS. I MEAN, I SEE THE RED GRANTS HERE. 
          ALSO ESPECIALLY USE PERMIT. UM AND YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE COMING IN FROM THE OUTSIDE, AND THAT'S JUST THE ONLY ONE THAT WAS COMMERCIALLY ORIENTED. THAT DIDN'T COME BY WAY, ESPECIALLY USE PERMIT, SO I THOUGHT I WAS A LITTLE BIT OF ANOMALY. I WOULD ADVISE THE PRIMARY. THAT ONE 
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SPECIAL WE CAN STILL PERMIT IT AFTER WE DO A QUICK LOOK AT IT. I'M NOT SURE THE COUNCIL FIELDS BUT IT GIVES THAT DIRECTION FOR THE RIGHT OF IT. RIGHT IF YOUR POINT IS TO PROTECT THIS ZONE. 
          FOR THE LESSER DENSER USES, AND I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE TO TAKES CLOSE SCRUTINY AT THESE UM, BEFORE THEY WALK IN BUT I THINK IT IS. I MEAN, THE WHOLE REALM OF STABLES, I THINK IS EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IN THIS ZONE. SO, UM, DON'T WANNA OUT, YOU KNOW OUTRIGHT BLOCK IT, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD YOU KNOW, AT LEAST TAKE A LOOK AT IT, DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF USE. UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH. THAT WORK FOR YOU? YES. THAT WORK FOR YOU, ASHLEIGH. DO WE HAVE TO HAVE ONE? HMM OKAY. ALRIGHT, LET'S CHECK IN. ALL RIGHT? IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS COUNSELORS THAT YOU WE'RE LOOKING AT, OKAY? UM. JUST GIVE US A LITTLE MORE TO WORK ON THIS AND I DEFINITELY AS I'VE SAID BEFORE ON THIS, I AM HAPPY TO HAVE THIS PROCESS MOVED FORWARD AND POTENTIALLY CREATE THE DISTRICT HERE. THE ZONE ZONING DISTRICT, BUT I DON'T WANT TO USE IT YET. I WANT TO TAKE THOSE CONVERSATIONS SEPARATELY. ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE COMPLAINT PROCESS THE NEXT YEAR . I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT KIND OF FIRST BEFORE WE START ROLLING THIS ANYWHERE. UM AND IF WE HAVE A ROLE IT ANYWHERE. I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE IN OUR PORTFOLIO, BUT I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO GO CHANGING ZONING ANYWHERE AT THIS POINT. YES THIS THIS WILL JUST ALLOW IT AS AN OPTION, AND EVEN IF PROPERTY OWNER SEES THE BENEFIT OF IT, THEY CAN COME TO US AND REQUESTED THEN IF THIS IS IN PLACE, ALL RIGHT. YEAH THAT'S THAT'S RIGHT. I PREFER TO BE ON THIS. YOU'RE GOOD. SORRY BILL WILL CHECK IN WITH YOU ANYTHING FROM YOU? OKAY? FEELS GOOD. THANK YOU, NATHAN. THANK YOU. OR DID YOU NEED ANYTHING ELSE FROM US IF YOU GET RIGHT. ALRIGHT IT IS. 608 PM AND AT THIS TIME WE'RE GOING TO OPEN PUBLIC 
          [3. PUBLIC INPUT]
INPUT. I'VE GOT ONE CARD SO FAR . IF OTHERS WANT TO SPEAK, JUST LET ME KNOW. UM AND THEN WE'LL ADD THOSE AFTER THE FIRST ONE. MR MCGREGOR DON'T HAVE A TOPIC FOR YOU. BUT WHATEVER YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT, WE GOT THREE MINUTES. MCGREGOR 89 21 EC FAMILY LINE. UM FIRST THING I WANTED TO SAY WAS REALLY APPRECIATE THE CONSIDERATION AND FAVORABLE OUTCOME TWO MEETINGS AGO FOR ME. THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND, UH, JUST TELL YOU HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE IT. AND I WANTED TO ENCOURAGE YOU WITH ALL THE BUDGET STUFF GOING ON TO CONTINUE TO THINK ABOUT CUTTING AS MUCH AS YOU CAN. THAT'S REASONABLE. I KNOW WE HAVE TO DO SOME PROJECTS NOW THAT ARE BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA COST WAY MORE LATER IF WE DO THEM, SO IT WOULDN'T BE SMART TO PUT THEM OFF. BUT WITH THE HOUSING MARKET. SLOWING DOWN. WE HAVE SOME PRETTY SERIOUS UNKNOWNS COMING UP, SO I WANT TO BE CAUTIOUS THERE ON SPENDING. AND ON THE. VERSUS THE RURAL RESIDENTIAL UNDERSTAND THE DESIRE FOR THE AG AND FOR SOME DIFFERENT THINGS GOING ON THERE. 
          I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU NOT TO TAKE AWAY ANYTHING FROM THE CURRENT RURAL RESIDENTIAL. I THINK IT WORKS GOOD LIKE IT IS. UM AND THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE HUGE LOTS AND TRACKS. 
          YOU KNOW HUNDREDS OF ACRES THAT ARE RURAL RURAL RESIDENTIAL NOW. AND THEY MAY NOT WANT TO GO THROUGH THE RIGMAROLE OF CHANGING ZONING AND ALL THAT, SO AND I DON'T KNOW. FOR CURRENT OWNERS. ARE THEY GRANDFATHER UNDER THE OLD ZONING DEFINITION OR WHEN THIS HAS CHANGED? THEY IF THEY WANT TO DO SOMETHING NEW , LIKE IF I WANTED TO PUT A STABLE ON MY PROPERTY, I DON'T BUT AM I GOING TO HAVE TO FALL INTO THIS NEW STUFF SINCE I'M NOT DOING IT RIGHT NOW, OR AM I HELD TO WHAT IT WAS WAS WHEN I BOUGHT IT. WE'LL ASK AT THE END OF YOUR COMMENTS. ANSWER ON THAT. GREAT. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT IN THAT CASE, WHEN, WHEN THE ZONING CHANGES IF YOU HAVE A CHAT, HAVE YOU HAVE A YOUTH CHANGE? AFTER THAT, YOU'LL YOU'LL CONFORM TO THE NEW ZONING. OKAY? UNLESS THERE'S A SUBMISSION BEFORE THE ZONING CHANGES, THEN YOUR GRANDFATHER. 
          IT'S BASED ON WHEN THE ZONING CHANGE AND WHEN THE SUBMISSION HAPPENS. VERY GOOD. I'M SORRY. 
          HMM. RINA HARDIMAN. I LIVE IN NORTH LAKE HAVE A COUPLE OF TOPICS TONIGHT AND RECENT COUNCIL MEETING, A CITIZEN TOLD US TO DO WHAT'S BEST FOR NORTHLAKE LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS CONCEPT TO DOING WHAT'S BEST FOR NORTH LAKE. AT THAT MEETING, THE RESIDENT SAID, AND I QUOTE JUST BECAUSE SOMEBODY WANTS SOMETHING DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT HAS TO BE PERMITTED. THIS COUNCIL WAS 
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ELECTED TO DO THE JOB OF DECIDING WHAT IS BEST FOR THE TOWN OF NORTH LAKE. NOW WHAT'S THAT WHEN WHAT'S IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE TOWN OF NORTH LIKE, COINCIDES WITH WHAT PEOPLE WANT THEN LIFE IS A BOX OF PUPPIES AND EVERYBODY'S HAPPY. SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO MAKE THE HARD DECISIONS AND SAY NO TO WHAT'S BEST FOR THE TOWN. IT'S NOT YES, I'M SORRY. WHAT'S BEST FOR THE TOWN IS NOT WHAT YOU WANT, AND WE'RE GOING TO DO WHAT'S BEST FOR THE TOWN. AND IF THAT COSTS ME A VOTER TO THEN SO BE IT. SO IT'S UP TO THE COUNCIL TO DECIDE WHAT'S BEST FOR THE TOWN AND ACT ACCORDINGLY. END QUOTE. THERE'S A DUALITY AND INTERNAL STRUGGLE GOING ON BETWEEN THE TWO QUOTE NORTH LIKES AND I'M GOING TO SPEAK IN GENERALITIES FOR A MOMENT, NOT BEING UGLY HERE, JUST SPEAKING PLAINLY. ON THE ONE HAND, WE HAVE NORTH LIKE THE MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT FOR THE SAKE OF ARGUMENT. DREW CORN COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR IS NORTH LIKE THE GOVERNMENT, WHOSE JOB FOR NORTH LAKE FOR THE GOVERNMENT IS TO SUCCEED, AND TO DO THIS, HE SEEKS TO GROW IT TO GET AS MUCH TAX REVENUE TO ADD AS MANY STAFF MEMBERS AS POSSIBLE THAT HE NEEDS AND PAY THEM AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE FOR RETENTION SPENDING . TAX REVENUE IS A MAJORITY OF HIS JOB. DREW WOULD LIKE NOTHING MORE THAN FOR US TO OR FOR YOU TO QUADRUPLE HIS BUDGET SO THAT HE CAN SPEND WILDLY ON WHAT HE WOULD CONSIDER WORTHY PROJECTS. FOUNDING FATHERS WERE GENIUS AND SETTING UP A SYSTEM OF CHECKS AND BALANCES IN FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BECAUSE THEY KNEW THAT POWER CORRUPTS AND ABSOLUTE POWER CORRUPTS ABSOLUTELY. WE HAVE A SET OF CHECKS AND BALANCES AND MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT TO ITS KNOWN AS ELECTED OFFICIALS. THE NORTH LIKE TOWN COUNCIL IS A BODY THAT THAT IS ELECTED TO REPRESENT THE CITIZENS SIDE OF THE EQUATION. 
          BECAUSE SOMETIMES WHAT ONE SIDE WANTS, BECAUSE SOMETIMES ONE SIDE WANTS IS AN OPPOSITION TO WHAT THE OTHER SIDE WANTS. SO THINK ABOUT THIS, DO YOU AS A CITIZEN REALLY WANT YOUR COUNSEL TO DO WHAT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST NORTH LIKE EVEN IF IT'S TO YOUR DETRIMENT. TAKE FOR INSTANCE, PROPERTY TAXES. AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING, THE COUNCIL EFFECTIVELY RAISED THEIR PROPERTY TAXES. 8.77 CENTS ON $100 VALUATION. THERE'S CONCEPT CALLED NO NEW TAX REVENUE, OR WHAT USED TO BE CALLED THE EFFECTIVE TAX RATE. AND IT'S THE RATE AT WHICH WE WOULD BRING IN THE SAME AMOUNT OF REVENUES LAST YEAR THAT RIGHT HAS TOLD AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING WAS 0.207. 
          OR 0.21 21 CENTS, SO THE COUNCIL COULD HAVE LOWERED THE RIGHT TO 21 CENTS AND THAT WOULD HAVE BROUGHT IN THE SAME AMOUNT OF REVENUE AS LAST YEAR. HOWEVER THEY DIDN'T THEY CHOSE TO INCREASE THE TAXES OVER 42% BY MAINTAINING THE 420.295 TAX RATE. I'VE BEEN LOOKING OUT FOR THE CITIZENS, THEY WOULD HAVE LOWERED OUR TAX RATE 2.21. THIS IS JUST ONE EXAMPLE OF THE COUNCIL DOING WHAT'S BEST FOR NORTH LIKE RATHER THAN DOING WHAT'S BEST FOR THE CITIZENS THEY REPRESENT, BECAUSE FOR CITIZENS TO BE TAXED OUT OF THEIR HOMES IS DEFINITELY NOT IN THEIR BEST INTEREST. I'D LIKE TO REITERATE WHAT I SAID AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING REGARDING THE NEW AG ZONING DISTRICT AND TO SAY THE PHRASE THE COUNCIL FORCES CITIZENS INTO HIS LOANING DISTRICT IS ANTITHETICAL TO OUR PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS. AND LEST WE FORGET PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS WERE KEY TO OUR INDIVIDUAL LIBERTIES AND FREEDOMS. THIS AG ZONING PROPOSAL SHOWS THAT AND I SAY THIS RESPECTFULLY AS I CAN, BUT YOU CLEARLY DON'T UNDERSTAND THE AGRICULTURE INDUSTRY. UM AGRICULTURE. AGRICULTURE IS A COMMERCIAL OPERATION AND TO DISALLOW RELATED AGRICULTURAL RELATED COMMERCIAL USES SEEMS UNFAIR. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 
          ALRIGHT. ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK TONIGHT? ONE ONCE GOING TWICE. VERY GOOD. 6. 14 PM WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT COUNSELORS AT THIS TIME WE HAVE ONE CONSENT ITEM 
          [4. CONSENT ITEMS]
ITEM C, WHICH IS THE APPROVAL OF THE TOWN COUNCIL MANY MINUTES FOR AUGUST 25TH IS THERE A CONSIDERATION FOR THIS ITEM? LET ME GO AHEAD AND, UH MAKE THE MOTION HERE ALRIGHT. SECOND BY THE MAYOR PRO TEM GO AHEAD AND VOTE, RIGHT? I DID. GOOD WITH IT. 
          WE GET EVERYBODY. DO WE HAVE TO, UH DO WE HAVE TO MARK. HE DID YOU VOTE IN THE APPROVAL, OKAY. 
          SOLDIERS TO A VOICE FOR ENTIRELY ALRIGHT, BOYS. VOICE FOR ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE, ALRIGHT. 
          ANY OPPOSED. OKAY, UNANIMOUS. DO WE NEED TO DO VOICE VOTES FOR THE EVENING? ALL RIGHT. WE'LL DO VOICE VOTES FOR THE EVENING. ALL RIGHT. AT THIS TIME, WE HAVE AN ACTION ITEM D I WILL START A 
          [5D. Consider Ordinance 22-0908A, amending Article 6.03, “Fireworks,” of the Code of Ordinances of the Town of Northlake, Texas; declaring the use or detonation of fireworks within Town limits and within 5,000 feet of Town limits to be a nuisance pursuant to Texas Local Government Code Section 217.042; prohibiting said use or detonation]
REGULAR MEETING AGENDA AT 6:16 P.M. THIS FIRST ONE IS ORDINANCE . 22-9088 AMENDING ARTICLE 603 FOR FIREWORKS. THIS ONE DECLARES THE USE OF FIREWORKS WITHIN THE TOWN LIMITS OR WITHIN 5000 FT OF 
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THE TENT AND LIMITS TO BE A NUISANCE PURSUANT TO GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 217.42, AND IT PROHIBITS THE USE OUTSIDE THE TOWN LIMITS UP TO 5000 FT. WITHIN OUR E T. J THIS IS NOT APPLIED TO OTHER JURISDICTIONS. AS FAR AS CITIES. SO UM, WHO BROUGHT THIS ONE FORWARD MR CORN? THIS WAS AT THE REQUEST OF TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS AND HER FOR THE CHARTER. THAT'S THAT'S ALLOWED. IT WAS ALSO PART OF THE DISCUSSION WHEN WE WHEN COUNCIL SAID, BRING BACK THE FIREWORKS ORDINANCE. FOR AN UP OR DOWN VOTE. AND THEN IF IT WAS THE FIREWORKS WERE KEPT WERE STILL ALLOWED. THEN WE DISCUSS POSSIBLE IMPROVEMENTS IF THEY WEREN'T ALLOWED. UH TO BRING BACK THIS AND SO WE TOOK US TOOK US A MEETING TO BRING THESE BACK. BUT PART OF THE DISCUSSION WAS IN ORDER TO CONTROL THIS, TJ ACTUALLY, JUST DISCUSS THIS WITH YOU. YOU COULD DECLARE IT A NUISANCE. AND SO THIS WOULD. DECLARE FIREWORKS AND NUISANCE. UM AND PER STATE LAW WERE ALLOWED TO ENFORCE NUISANCES UP TO 5000 FT. OBVIOUSLY, WE CAN'T ENCROACH ON ANOTHER JURISDICTION . IT WOULD JUST BE WITHIN OUR DJ UP TO 5000 FT. SO THAT'S KIND OF THE STEPS AND YOUR PAST THAT TOO, UM TWO COUNCILORS POSSESSES BRING THIS FORWARD WE WERE INTENDING TO, ANYWAY, UM BUT IT WAS AN ADDITIONAL EMPHASIS TOOK STAFF TO BRING IT FORWARD. ALRIGHT SO SINCE TWO COUNSELORS BROUGHT THIS FORWARD, I WANTED TO OFFER THEIR OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THE CASE FOR WHY THIS ITEM . THIS ISN'T WHAT I BROUGHT FORWARD. SO DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT? OR, UM PUT FORWARD YOUR MOTION AND GO AHEAD. OKAY I WAS ONE OF THE TWO. THIS STEMS FROM THE JULY 3RD INCIDENT AT HARVEST. NEIGHBORS CALLED TO ME AND COMPLAIN THEIR HORSES WERE RUNNING WILD CATTLE OURS. 
          GETTING ALL RACKED OUT. I MEAN, THEY DON'T ALLOW IT. THE H O A DOES NOT ALLOWED IN HARVEST. SO INSTEAD, THEY CAME BEHIND THE PROPERTIES ON THE SHOW BAR AREA AND PUT ON A. BUT A LARGE FIREWORKS SHOW THAT DISRUPTS IT. A LOT OF PEOPLE ON JULY 3RD AND LIVESTOCK ISSUES THE WHOLE BIT. 
          SO, UM. THAT'S MY INTENT TO BRING IT FORWARD. MY NEIGHBORS ASKED ME TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, SO I ACTED ON IT AND MADE THAT RECOMMENDATION. ALRIGHT WITH THE OTHER COUNSELOR WENT AWAY IN OR WE CAN GO TO OPEN DISCUSSION. DID YOU WANT TO WEIGH IN BILL? NO I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF DIFFICULTY WITH SOUND QUALITY, BUT. I WOULD THINK BY APPLYING THE NUISANCE ORDINANCE. IT WOULD ALLOW MORE EQUAL APPLICATION TO WHATEVER IS EVEN BROUGHT UP IN THE FUTURE. 
          OKAY WE'LL OPEN THE FLOOR, THEN I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF COMMENTS ON THIS ONE. SO THE. UNIFORM APPLICATION OF LAW WITHIN OUR BORDERS AND DIRECTLY OUTSIDE OUR BORDERS IN THE ET CHANG IS VERY IMPORTANT. AND SO I AGREE WITH THAT PRINCIPLE, HOWEVER. ON THIS ONE. I GOT A PROBLEM WITH DECLARING THEM A NUISANCE BECAUSE WE'RE HAVING DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WHETHER THESE ARE ALLOWED OR NOT, AND I DO THINK IN THE FUTURE. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THIS, AND I PREFER TO KIND OF FINISH THAT CONVERSATION WITH THE TOWN BEFORE WE GO. DECLARING THEM A NUISANCE BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S SOME LEGAL IMPLICATIONS TO THAT. BECAUSE THIS IS DECLARING INSIDE THE LIMITS AND OUTSIDE THE LIMITS, AND SO IT TIES THESE VERY CLOSELY TOGETHER. I THINK THE THING I HAVE IN RESPONSE TO, UM YOU KNOW THE HARVEST INCIDENT , FOR INSTANCE, HARVEST INCIDENT WAS NOT ALLOWED. IT WAS ALREADY ILLEGAL. IT WAS TRESPASSING. THEY DID NOT HAVE PERMISSION TO BE ON THE PROPERTY. ADDING ANOTHER RULE TO SAY YOU CAN'T DO IT. YOU CAN'T DISOBEY THE LAW JUST DOESN'T MAKE A LOT OF SENSE TO ME. UM I DO THINK THIS IS ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT I WANTED TO EXPLORE IF WE HAD HAD MORE STRICTER PERMISSIONS AND THEN LOOK AT TRYING TO EXTEND THAT TO APPLY AN R E. T J, WHICH I HADN'T BEEN ABLE TO FIGURE OUT QUITE YET, IF THAT'S POSSIBLE, BUT AT THE MOMENT, I'M NOT QUITE SUPPORTIVE OF THIS BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE STILL HAVING A 
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CONVERSATION ABOUT THE ORIGINAL. THE ORIGINAL TOPIC. THAT SAID. THAT'S THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THIS ONE. WELL AS AS OF RIGHT NOW, FIREWORKS ARE ACTUALLY PROHIBITED. SO TO ACT ON THAT RIGHT NOW. IT SHOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM. UM THERE'S NO BLACK AND WHITE RIGHT NOW, WITH THERE'S NO GRAY AREA RATHER THAN FIREWORKS. RIGHT NOW. THEY ARE PROHIBITED IN NORTHLAKE. SO EXTENDING THE NUISANCE BOUNDARY TO MAKE MAKES MAKES QUITE A BIT OF SENSE. I UNDERSTAND SINCE WE HAVE NO JURISDICTION RIGHT NOW OVER WHAT HAPPENS IN E. T. J. UNDERSTOOD BUT WE DO HAVE AN OPEN REFERENDUM CALL FOR THAT. AND SO I THINK WE HAVE TO LET THE PROCESS PLAY OUT BEFORE WE MOVING FORWARD WITH MORE CHANGES. UM AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS GIVES US MUCH MORE THAN WE HAVE TODAY, GIVEN THE FACT THAT THAT PARTICULAR INSTANCE WAS ALREADY ILLEGAL TO BEGIN WITH, SO THAT'S THAT'S MY TWO CENTS. I THINK THERE'S RUMORS OF A REFERENDUM, BUT NOTHING'S BEEN PUT DOWN ON PAPER AS I CAN AS TO MY KNOWLEDGE, AS AS OF YET, NOR HAS THERE BEEN ANY TYPE OF A PETITION. IT WAS FORMALLY REQUESTED. SO THEREFORE THE WINDOW IS OPEN FOR 60 DAYS. 
          TO YOUR POINT THERE. I THINK I DON'T KNOW IF SAYING INDUCES CREATES AN ISSUE FOR US IN THE FUTURE. I DON'T BELIEVE IT DOES, BUT EQUAL APPLICATION OF LAW IS IMPORTANT. AND IF OR, IF NOT, THIS REFERENDUM HAPPENS OR DOES NOT, OR IT COMES BACK TO COUNCIL. THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE TAKEN IN TANDEM. LOOK AT IT AGAIN. UM, BUT AS COUNSEL. BUT IT AGAINST FIREWORKS LAST TIME. 
          IT DOES NEED TO BE APPLIED EQUALLY. WE CAN'T HAVE PEOPLE OUTSIDE THE JURISDICTION. JUST WILLY NILLY YOU POSSIBLY ANY DAY OF THE WEEK. OR ANY HOLIDAY THEY FEEL WHEN OUR RESIDENTS CAN'T SO IT KIND OF MAKES SENSE TO ME TO GAIN CONTROL OVER E T. J I STILL BELIEVE THE COUNCIL VOTED ERRONEOUSLY. DISALLOWING FIREWORKS. BUT IF IT'S IF IT'S NOT GOOD FOR OUR CITIZENS, AND IT'S CERTAINLY NOT GOOD FOR PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF THE LINES AND R E T. J UM, SO EQUAL APPLICATION IS CRUCIALLY IMPORTANT. ANYWAY YOU LOOK AT AND IF IT'S EVER COMES BACK THIS CAN BE UNDONE, JUST LIKE AN ORDINANCE CAN BE UNDONE. DECLARED A NUISANCE TODAY DOES NOT TAKE AWAY OUR RIGHTS AS A COUNCIL. TOMORROW. JUST A QUICK CLARIFICATION. YES THAT WAS BROUGHT UP ALSO ABOUT THIS, AND IF THERE WAS A WHEN THE REFERENDUM CAME. IF AND WHEN IT CAME BACK, YOU COULD COUNCIL COULD REVERSE THEMSELVES OR THEY COULD HAVE THE CITIZENRY. BUT THEN OUR ATTORNEY RECOMMENDED THAT WE REVERSE BOTH THESE ITEMS IN TANDEM. ANOTHER CLARIFICATION WE HAVE. I BELIEVE WE HAD A PETITION PACKET PICKED UP BUT WE HAVEN'T ENOUGH OFFICIAL TIN PERSON COMMITTEE THAT'S REQUIRED AS PART OF THE PROCESS SO THAT THE CLOCK HASN'T ACTUALLY STARTED. THERE HAS BEEN INTEREST , BUT THE OFFICIAL START OF THE CLOCK HASN'T STARTED. THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. APPRECIATE IT. MY RESPONSE TO MAYOR PRO TEM IS THAT, UM, WE'VE GONE FOR SEVERAL YEARS WITHOUT THIS RULE WITH FIREWORKS ALLOWED IN THE TOWN. WE DIDN'T WE DON'T HAVE AN APPLIED THIS NUISANCE RULE FOR ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE HAVE TODAY. UM WE'RE NOT IN A WINDOW FOR FIREWORKS AT THIS TIME, THE ONES THAT ARE THE MOST RISK OF JULY 4TH. SO WE HAVE TIME TO GET TO NEXT YEAR. AND SEE WHERE WE STAND. I DO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH DECLARING IT A NUISANCE, THOUGH, BECAUSE THIS IS THE ONLY METHOD BY WHICH WE CAN EXTEND IT OUTSIDE THE LIMITS. I WANT TO FIND A WAY TO DO IT. MAYBE WE CAN'T FIND ONE. BUT I WANT TO FIND A WAY TO DO IT WITHOUT DECLARING IT A NUISANCE BECAUSE WE DECLARED A NUISANCE. WE'VE DECLARED IT AS A PROBLEM IN THE TOWN, AND I DO THINK THAT THAT'S NOT AS EASILY REVOKED. IT'S ONE THING TO SAY WE SAY THEIR BAND OR WE SAY THEY'RE ALLOWED. IT'S ANOTHER THING TO SAY WE DECLARE THEM TO BE A NUISANCE. IN THE FUTURE. YOU DECLARED HIM TO BE A NUISANCE. AND NOW YOU'RE SAYING WE'RE ALLOWED. I JUST HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE METHOD IN WHICH WE'RE MOVING FORWARD ON THIS NOT SO MUCH ON THE APPLICATION OF THE LAW, BUT AS WE SPOKE ABOUT BEFORE. THE H O A ALREADY PROHIBITS IT IN HARVEST, AND THE PROPERTY OWNERS DISAGREED WITH ALLOWING THE LAUNCH ON THEIR PROPERTY. THEY DIDN'T GIVE PERMISSION. AND SO IN THAT SENSE, IT IS STILL BANNED TODAY ALREADY HARVEST FOR THE TIME BEING. AND I WANT TO SEE US, YOU KNOW, LEAVE THAT BE FOR A LITTLE BIT UNTIL SUCH TIME AS WE FIGURE OUT THE REST OF THIS WITH THE CONVERSATION WITH OUR CITIZENS. 
          THAT'S MY TAKE. WELL IT'S BANNED AND HARVEST, BUT THE POLICE STILL CANNOT ACT ON IT WITH IT AS A NUISANCE THAT POLICE CAN ACT ON IT. SO THAT IS A BIG DIFFERENCE. ONE WE DON'T HAVE RIGHT NOW LIKE THEY COULD HAVE ACTED ON THE TRESPASSING. THEY COULD HAVE ACTED ON THE NEIGHBOR SETTING ON THEIR OTHER NEIGHBOR'S YARD ON FIRE. THAT'S ALSO ILLEGAL. NEITHER ONE OF THOSE THINGS GOT PRESSED CHARGES NEIGHBORS THERE IT WAS OPEN FIELDS SEPARATE INCIDENT INCIDENTS. OBVIOUSLY I'M REFERRING TO THE ONE THAT HAPPENED IN BRIAN'S PLACE, RIGHT? THAT COULD BE BUT THAT DOESN'T APPLY. BUT NO, IT DOESN'T. MY POINT IS TOO IF IT 
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WAS ALREADY ILLEGAL TO SET YOUR NEIGHBOR'S YARD ON FIRE, AND NOBODY PRESSED CHARGES, IT WAS ILLEGAL TO TRESPASS ON THE GRASS AND NOBODY PRESSED CHARGES. RIGHT. SO AT ONE POINT OR ANOTHER, SOMEBODY HAS TO LIKE ACTUALLY PRESS CHARGES FOR THOSE ILLEGAL ACTIONS THAT WE CAN'T DO IF THAT MAKES ANY SENSE, RIGHT, SO I'M I'M NOT FOR TRYING TO CONTROL THE T. J SOME PROPERTY OWNERS LIVE IN THE T. J BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO BE CONTROLLED. THIS IS JUST GOING TO BUILD ANIMOSITY TOWARDS PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE TJ. OBVIOUSLY, I REALIZED HARVEST IS A LITTLE BIT OF A SPECIAL PIECE OF MEAT J. BUT UH, YOU KNOW, I HAVE LIVED OUTSIDE OF TOWN LIMITS. TWICE BEFORE I MOVED TO NORTH LAKE IN TOWN LIMITS ON PURPOSE SO THAT I COULD DO FIREWORKS SO THAT I COULD DO WHATEVER I WANTED TO AND NOT IN TOWN LIMITS. DON'T WANNA BUILD ANIMOSITY TOWARDS PEOPLE. NOT IN THE T. J BY TRYING TO CONTROL HIM IN THIS WAY. THAT'S NOT GONNA HELP THEM ENTER THE TOWN. NOT A FAN, BUT THEY BUILD ANIMOSITY TO THE RESIDENTS BY ILLEGALLY. PUTTING ON FIREWORKS SHOW. SO LIKE I SAID, MY NEIGHBORS ALL CALLED ABOUT THEIR CONCERN FOR THEIR ANIMALS AND EVERYTHING ELSE. AND, UH, YOU KNOW THAT THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO TO PROTECT THE RESIDENTS OF THE TOWN THAT ARE TAXPAYING RESIDENTS. I THINK WE SHOULD DO IT. YEAH AND IT'S INTERESTING YOUR POINTS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN MINE. IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN HIS. MY POINT IS . YES I DO THINK WE NEED UNIFORMITY IN THE TJ BECAUSE WE'VE GOT POCKETS OF E. T J THAT ARE TWO ADJACENT TO THE TOWN LIMITS BECAUSE OF OUR CHECKERBOARD. UM, BUT USING THE METHOD OF DECLARING IT AS A NUISANCE IS NOT ONE THAT I WANTED TO USE TO GET THIS DONE. AND NOW I WILL SAY I DON'T HAVE A SUBSTITUTE FOR IT. SO I ACKNOWLEDGE THAT BUT THAT WAS THE CONVERSATION I HAD WITH OUR ATTORNEY AND OUR STAFF WAS I WANT A DIFFERENT METHOD TO GET THERE THAN THIS AND I WANT TO WAIT UNTIL WE FINISH THE CONVERSATION. ON A REFERENDUM. WELL, A FEW MINUTES AGO, MS HARDMAN MADE A GOOD POINT ABOUT SOMETIMES SITTING UP HERE, YOU HAVE TO MAKE THE HARD DECISIONS. AND I THINK THIS IS ONE THAT WE SHOULD MAKE. OH, CITIZEN. ALRIGHT WELL, EITHER WAY, SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO MAKE THE HARD DECISIONS AND I HAD ENOUGH PHONE CALLS THAT NIGHT WHERE I FEEL COMFORTABLE MAKING EMOTION TO A TO APPROVE THE NUISANCE LIMIT. OKAY I RECOGNIZE YOUR MOTION TO APPROVE. IS THERE A SECOND? BILL I'M NOT CALLING ON YOU TO DO SO. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I CHECK IN WITH YOU. 
          IF YOU WANTED TO SECOND ON THISD PROBLEM YOU LIKE EVERYTHING'S REAL BASIN AND REVERBERATED. BUT I STILL FEEL THAT THIS IS PROBABLY THE ONLY WAY TO TREAT EVERYBODY FAIRLY UNTIL AND IF WE CAN COME UP WITH A WAY TO PROVIDE THE FIREWORKS THAT SOMEBODY WANTS OR WHATEVER MUTUAL AGREEABLE SITUATION AND I DON'T. IF FIREWORKS ARE NOT ALLOWED IN THERE. E T. J SPEAKING ABOUT HARVEST NOW. YEAH I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE TAKING AWAY FROM HIM, OTHER THAN CREATING A SITUATION THAT COULD BE IN FORCED, AND AS I'VE SAID BEFORE, WE SHOULD HAVE THINGS WE CAN GET FORCED, AND I BELIEVE WE SHOULD I WOULD BELIEVE WITNESS HEARD. I THINK THE MAYOR SAID SOMETHING ABOUT UM YEAH, HE DIDN'T. HE STARTED GETTING GETTING RID OF THAT MAINTENANCE ISSUE WOULD BE WORSE OR NOT LANGUAGE. UM PARDON ME. I'M KIND OF WANDERING. YOU'RE THE WHO IDEA OF A NUISANCE WOULD BE HARD TO GET RID OF. IF, IN FACT BOARD WANTING TO CHANGE THEIR MIND OR WHATEVER FUTURE WE HEARD FROM, ACTUALLY ON THAT. HERE SHE IS, AND SHE RECOMMENDS SHE RECOMMENDED THAT IF THE REFERENDUM ARE YOU OVERTURN THIS YOU DO THE NUISANCE AT THE SAME TIME. YEAH YEAH. I MEAN, I DON'T I DON'T HAVE AN OPINION ON WHETHER YOU SHOULD OR SHOULD NOT REPEAL THIS, THAT WOULD THAT WOULD BE COMPLETELY WITHIN YOUR POLICY DECISIONS AS AS A COUNCIL . UM MY ONLY, UH. MY ONLY, UH, POSITION ON THAT, AS I AS I TOLD DREW IS IF YOU IF YOU CHANGE YOUR MIND ON THE FIREWORKS AND FIREWORKS ARE ALLOWED, UM, THAT WE NEED TO RETHINK THE NUISANCE 
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, EITHER THE PARAMETERS OR WHETHER IT'S A NUISANCE AT ALL AT THE SAME TIME. SO THAT'S MY ONLY AGAIN NOT AN OPINION ON WHETHER YOU SHOULD OR SHOULD NOT. AND I BELIEVE WE HAVEN'T HEARD YOU CORRECTLY. THE. WHEN, WHEN, WHEN, AND THERE'S FIREWORKS ISSUES CHANGED IN NORTH LIKE PROPER. WE WERE WANT TO OR HAVE TO RULE ON THE NUISANCE VALUE OR WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO CHANGE WHAT'S GOING ON. YEAH. NORTH LIKE PROPER SO WE AUTOMATICALLY MAKE EVERYBODY BUT, UM. THE SAME THROUGHOUT NORTH LAKE AND HARVEST AND SOME OF THE OTHER E G JS IS THAT CORRECT? I THINK I'M NOT SURE I GUESS MY POINT IS APPROVING IT AS A NUISANCE. TONIGHT IS NOT A REVOCABLE. YOU CAN COME BACK AND BRING IT BACK AND CHANGE THAT. UM AND MY ADVICE WAS THAT YOU COULD AND YOU PROBABLY SHOULD DO THAT. IF YOU DO, COME BACK AND CHANGE YOUR FIREWORKS TO WHERE IT'S NOT PROHIBITED LIKE IT IS, AS IT STANDS TODAY. FIREWORKS ARE ALLOWED. IT CAN'T BE A NUISANCE SO THEY'D HAVE TO KIND OF WORK TOGETHER AND THERE WAS ANOTHER CLARIFICATION. WE BELIEVE THAT AND WE'LL DOUBLE CHECK, BUT THERE WAS AN ISSUE WITH LIGHTING IN THE TJ AND WE ACTUALLY HAD TO UPDATE THE UDC, BUT WE CHANGE THAT AS A NUISANCE SO WE COULD CONTROL IN THE T. J SO THERE MAY BE NOISE, TOO. BUT I DO KNOW IT WAS BECAUSE WE BOUGHT A PHOTO TOM ATTAR. I THINK WE HAVE SOUND, WHATEVER THAT'S CALLED AN AUDITOR, WHATEVER. BUT WE DO HAVE EXAMPLES OF NUISANCES BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE A OR WE HAVE EFFECTIVENESS OF NOISE AND LIGHT IN THE TJ. TODAY'S NUISANCES BEFORE WE KEEP TALKING, I AM I'M STILL TRYING TO WRAP UP THE MOTION THAT WAS PUT ON THE TABLE. WE NEED TO GET THE SECOND OUT OR NOT SO THERE'S A CALL FOR A SECOND TO APPROVE THE MOTION AFTER THE MOTION WAS MADE BY COUNCILOR GANZ. IS THERE A SECOND OR NOT? YES I'LL DO THE SECOND. ALRIGHT SO THERE IS A SECOND SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. WE CAN STILL CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION. THEN WHAT? WHY DID NOTHING HAPPENED TO THE PEOPLE FROM HARVEST THAT WE'RE TRESPASSING? BECAUSE IF THEY WERE ALLOWED TO TRESPASS THAT NIGHT. THEN NO MATTER WHAT ORDINANCE WE PASS. WHEN WE KNOW WHAT MEANS IT'S GOING TO BE STOPPED NEXT TIME. MY UNDERSTANDING IS IT WAS ON HOMEBUILDERS PROPERTY. THEY'RE FINISHED LOTS, A NUMBER OF THEM. AND UH, THE ORGANIZER OF THE FIREWORKS, TOLD THE SALES REP FOR THAT BUILDER THAT WE'RE GONNA DO THE FIREWORKS AND SHE SAID, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T GIVE YOU PERMISSION FOR THAT. IS AND SO FROM MY SOURCES IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IT ANYWAY. AND SHE SAID, DON'T BURN ANYTHING DOWN. AND SO TO HAVE A CRIME. YOU HAVE TO HAVE A COMPLAINT COMPLAINANT AND THERE WAS NO COMPLAINANT. SO THE PROPERTY OWNER NEVER FILED A COMPLAINT OF TRESPASSING AND EVEN IF THERE IS TRESPASSING, PLEASE, UNLESS THERE'S SOME OF THE EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES. 
          POLICE ARE SUPPOSED TO GIVE A WARNING FIRST, AND IF THEY VACATE THERE'S NO TRESPASSING. 
          SO I GUESS TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. NOBODY THE PROPERTY OWNER DIDN'T FILE A COMPLAINT AGAINST SOMEONE FOR TRESPASSING. THE PROPERTY OWNER HAVE TO MAKE A COMPLAINT OR COULD ANOTHER RESIDENT MADE THE COMPLAINT? BECAUSE I CALLED IT IN? IT'S GONNA BE THE PROPERTY OWNER. 
          OKAY YEAH. NEIGHBOR CALLED ME. AND SO I CALLED. I CALLED IT IN RIGHT? THAT DOESN'T COUNT AS A COMPLAINT, THEN NOT LEGALLY ACT ON TRESPASSING. THE PROPERTY OWNER OR THEIR AGENT HAS TO MAKE THE COMPLAINT. THERE'S A FILE A COMPLAINT YOU YOU YOU. YOU CALL DISPATCH, AND WE POLICE CAME TO THAT. BUT AN OFFICIAL COMPLAINT IN THIS INSTANCE HAS TO BE FILED BY THE PROPERTY OWNER. SO IF WE DECLARED A NUISANCE IS ANYTHING GOING TO HAPPEN NEXT TIME? THEY CAN. THEY CAN ENFORCE THAT. SO FIREWORKS ARE NOT ALLOWED. MUCH LIKE WE WOULD DO IN THE TOWN LIMITS. CURRENTLY THE WAY THE ORDINANCES. ALRIGHT. UNLESS THERE'S ANYTHING FURTHER WE CAN CALL THE VOTE. ALRIGHT LET'S CALL THE VOTE. REMEMBER, IT'S A VOICE VOTE, SO I NEED TO GET YOU SPECIFICALLY ON THE RECORD, SO JUST GIVE ME A SECOND TO DO THAT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. RAISE YOUR HAND, PLEASE. BILL. UM. 
          MIKE ROBERT ANY OTHERS? OKAY? ALL THOSE OPPOSED. OKAY, THREE. ROGER YOU, EPSTEIN. OKAY ROGER, 
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ABSTAINS WEST. MYSELF AND MONTINI ARE THEY HUNG JURY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. FROM UPSTATE. 
          OKAY? ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD. SO WE MOVE ON. DO WE NEED ANY ACTION TO MOVE ON? WE COULD ALL RIGHT. LET'S MOVE ON. ITEM E RESOLUTION. ACTUALLY I'M GOING TO POSTPONE THIS ONE TO THE END. 
          [5F. Consider Resolution 22-51, approving and authorizing the Town Manager to enter into an agreement for the purchase of public works equipment in an amount not to exceed $85,000]
EXPLAIN WHY IN A MINUTE. ITEM F RESOLUTION RESOLUTION. 22-51 APPROVING AUTHORIZED TOWN MANAGED TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT FOR PURCHASE OF PUBLIC WORKS EQUIPMENT AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $85,000. I CAN GIVE US A SUMMARY, MR CORN. RIGHT BRANDON MAY HAVE TO HELP ME. WE GOT A LITTLE BIT SMALLER MODEL TRUCK. THAT SAVES US A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY, BUT THIS WILL BE THE TRUCK PLUS DUMP BODY. WE WILL. WE WILL HAVE AN UPDATED RESOLUTION FOR YOU. IT'S JUST ONE TRUCK. IT'S NOT THREE. IT'S THE TRUCK AND THE DUMP BODY. UM AND THAT THE GRAPEVINE PROVIDED THE BEARD NOT PROVED THE BID. SO WE'LL GET THAT ALL UPDATED FOR YOU, UM THE ORIGINAL BUDGET FOR TRUCK. DON'T BODY. SAND SPREADER. WAS 110,000, THE. TRUCK CAME IN BECAUSE WE DOWNSIZED. IT CAME IN UNDER BUDGET. WE STILL NEED THE REMAINING BUDGET FOR, UM THE OUTFIT THE VEHICLE. BUT WE HAD DISSIPATED HAVE ABOUT $15,000 IN SAVINGS. THIS WILL BE THE THIS WILL BE THE TRUCK THAT WILL DO THE SAND SPREADING IN FOR ICY ROADS. QUESTIONS COUNSELORS. 
          THANK YOU FOR BEING DILIGENT ON GETTING US A LITTLE BIT OF SAVINGS. APPRECIATE THAT. I WAS LOOKING AT HIM, OKAY? YES, THANK YOU. ALRIGHT COUNSELORS. ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS? IT IS NOT THREE TRUCKS AS IT SAYS IN THE MEMO. UM YES. MOTION TO APPROVE OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE. I'LL SECOND THAT ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION. ALL RIGHT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF BUILDING YOU WANT TO TALK? NO I'M IN FAVOR. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. RAISE YOUR HAND, PLEASE. OKAY, UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU. OKAY? ALRIGHT ITEM G RESOLUTION 22-52 RATIFYING THE ACTIONS TAKEN BY 
          [5G. Consider Resolution 22-52, ratifying the actions taken by the Northlake Economic Development Corporation and Northlake Community Development Corporation Board of Directors, approving a Pioneer Grant for Rolling Pin Bakeshoppe, in an amount not to exceed $50,000]
THE NORTH LAKE 80 C AND C D. C BOARD OF DIRECTORS APPROVING A PIONEER GRANT FOR ROLLING PIN BIG SHOPPING AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $50,000. LAND SEEN YOU GOT A SUMMARY FOR US. ALL RIGHT . GOOD EVENING, MARION. COUNSEL BEFORE YOU TONIGHT TO DO A VERY BRIEF SUMMARY ON THE ROLLING PIN BAKESHOP AND ALSO TO INTRODUCE THE OWNERS OF THAT BAKESHOP AND GRANT REQUESTERS. THE CO OWNERS ARE MARK DOUGLAS AND MELISSA LAZAR, AND THEY ARE GOING TO BE IN THE HARVEST. NEIGHBORHOOD SHOPS, WHICH IS A SLIGHT BUILDING, WHICH IS THE BUILDING THAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW, NEXT TO THE 7 11, AND SO THEY WERE GOING TO GO IN. TOGETHER THEY HAD TWO CONCEPTS ALMOST LIKE FROTH, COFFEE SHOP, AND THE OTHER ONE WAS A ROLLING PIN BAKESHOP. AND WE BASICALLY HEARD FROM THE DEVELOPER THAT THEY WERE ONLY GOING TO DO THE FROTH COFFEE SHOP AND THAT THE ROLLING PIN BAKESHOP WAS NOT GOING TO GO IN THERE, SO WE CHECKED WITH THEM TO FIND OUT. 
          THEY CONNECTED US WITH THE OWNERS TO FIND OUT WHAT THE ISSUE WAS BECAUSE WE REALLY WANTED BOTH CONCEPTS IN THEIR AND ESSENTIALLY JUST OVER THE LAST YEAR YEAR AND A HALF. THE COST OF ALL THE INDUSTRIAL KITCHEN AND BAKING EQUIPMENT HAS RISEN ASTRONOMICALLY. AND SO THEY WERE CHOOSING BETWEEN ONE CONCEPT AND THE OTHER AND CHOSE TO GO AHEAD AND DO THE FROTH. UM COFFEE SHOP, SO WE GOT WITH THEM TALK WITH THEM A LITTLE BIT. TALKED ABOUT INCENTIVES, THEY DECIDED TO FILL OUT A PIONEER GRANT APPLICATION, AND THEY PRESENTED THAT APPLICATION BEFORE A JOINT MEETING OF THE E. D. C AND C D. C. ON SEPTEMBER 1ST. THE GRANT REQUEST IS IN THE AMOUNT OF $50,000 IT IS UNDER THE SNACK AND BEVERAGE SHOPS CATEGORY THERE WERE TO GRANT AVAILABILITIES THEIR $50,000 AND 50,000 ALREADY WENT TO T ETCETERA EARLIER IN THE YEAR, AND SO THIS IS THE ONE REMAINING IN THAT SNACK AND BEVERAGE SHOT CATEGORY. FOR THE $50,000 GRANT AMOUNT. IT WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED BY THE E, D. C AND THE D. E. D C AND CDC. AFTER A 
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PRESENTATION AND QUESTION AND ANSWER WITH MARK DOUGLAS AND THE BOARDS OF DIRECTORS ONE THING THAT WAS DISCUSSED THERE IS THAT A BAKERY IS ON THE RETAIL RECRUITMENT STRATEGY. IT WAS LISTED AS ACTUALLY RETAIL BUSINESS THAT WAS WANTED IN THE NORTHERN END OF TOWN. AS WELL AS SOUTHERN AND IN TOWN, AND THEN EVENTUALLY IN MIDTOWN AROUND 11 71, AND THERE WERE A LOT OF LISTS OF BAKERIES THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE CONTACTING. I DID CONTACT TO. I HEARD BACK FROM ONE AND PART OF THAT MORE FRANCHISE BAKE SHOPS WAS THAT THEY WANTED MORE DENSITY, AND IT WOULD BE A NUMBER OF YEARS BEFORE THEY ACTUALLY WOULD WOULD LOOK AT NORTH LAKE SO UM SO WE DID REACH OUT TO ROLLING PIN BAKESHOP AND TALKED WITH MARK AND MELISSA AND THEY DID SUBMIT THE GRANT APPLICATION. NOT ONLY IS IT A PRIORITY IN ALL THREE AREAS ACCORDING TO OUR CITIZENS , BUT IT WAS ALSO A PRIORITY AND THAT IT'S A SMALL BUSINESS AND THAT IT'S KIND OF A SPECIALTY, UNIQUE BUSINESS FOR THE AREA. SO I'M GOING TO STOP THERE, AND I WANT TO INTRODUCE MARK DOUGLAS, WHO'S ONE OF THE CO OWNERS AND HAVE HIM COME UP AND HE'S GOING TO DO A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION . THIS IS THE SAME PRESENTATION THAT HE PROVIDED TO THE AND THE CDC ON SEPTEMBER 1ST. THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU SEE? MEDALS JUST CLIPPERS UNDERNEATH THERE, OKAY? AND ALSO YOU CAN DO IT, AND THEN THAT'S FINE, OKAY? THERE WE GO, OKAY? LIKE WHEN SEEN SAID MY NAME IS MARK TO MY LEFT BEHIND ME. HERE IS MELISSA. SHE'S ALSO THE CO OWNER. IT'S GOING TO BE, I GUESS. CAN YOU GUYS SEE THIS OR NO? CAN YOU SAY THAT YOU CAN SEE IT ON YOUR SCREENS? OKAY GOOD. OKAY. SO LIKE I SAID, MELISSA, AND I ARE THE CO OWNERS OF THE ROLLING PIN BAKESHOP. WE MOVED HERE ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO FROM DENVER, COLORADO. AS I TOLD THE NBC AND THE CDC. MY FIRST SUMMER HERE WAS A BIT OF AN ADJUSTMENT JUST IN TERMS OF THE HUMIDITY AND THE HEAT COMBINED. BACK IN DENVER GETS OVER 100 DEGREES MAYBE ONCE OR TWICE A YEAR. UM, BUT WHEN YOU COMBINE THAT WITH THE HEAT, IT WAS DEFINITELY AN ADJUSTMENT FOR ME ANYWAYS, I DIGRESS. BUT WE'RE ADJUSTING QUITE WELL. AND WE LOVE IT HERE IN TEXAS. UM WE ARE ALSO THE OWNERS, FROTHY COFFEE BAR JUST LIKE CLANCY AND EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT AGO AND WE RESIDE IN HAZLETT. SO JUST DOWN THE ROAD FROM YOU GUYS. SO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT I GUESS JUST KIND OF AS LANSING TOUCHED ON WHY WE DECIDED TO, UM KIND OF LOOK, LOOK AGAIN AT THE WRONG PIN BAKESHOP. UM SO WITH BROTH COFFEE BAR, WHICH IS OUR COFFEE SHOP THAT'S CURRENTLY AND HAS IT . UM IT'S A VERY SMALL SPACE. UM, AND SO WE, UM IT BASICALLY WAS OUT OF NECESSITY FOR THE COMMUNITY. WE CAME FROM DENVER, WHICH I COULD WALK 23 COPY SHOPS FROM MY HOUSE. DRIVE A MINUTE AND A HALF TWO MINUTES FIVE MINUTES, MAYBE DEPENDING ON TRAFFIC TO TWO OTHER ONES, SO A TOTAL OF FIVE COFFEE SHOPS WITHIN A VERY SHORT DISTANCE, WHEREAS WHEN WE MOVED HERE UM 15 20 MINUTES THAT WAS TO ALLIANCE OR TWO SAGNA AND THAT WAS TO A STARBUCKS, SO NOT A LOT OF SMALL BUSINESS IN THE AREA, SO THAT KIND OF SPARKED US TOO. JUST YOU KNOW, HAVE THE IDEA OF OH, HEY, LET'S LET'S OPEN UP A COFFEE SHOP HERE. I MEAN, IT'S A NEED IN THE COMMUNITY. UM IT'S A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO. THEY CAN HANG OUT MANY, MANY STUDENTS , BIBLE STUDIES JUST WORKING. IT'S A GREAT PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO CONGREGATE IN THE COMMUNITY AND THE CITY OF HAZLETT HAS DEFINITELY EMBRACED FROTH COFFEE BAR. THEY'VE REALLY YOU KNOW, SUPPORTED US VERY WELL THERE, AND SO WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL FOR THAT. UM THE REASON I MENTIONED THAT IS THAT HAS ALLOWED US TO EXPAND, SO WE'RE CURRENTLY OPENING OUR SECOND LOCATION IN THE CITY OF DENTON ON THE U. N. T CAMPUS. ACTUALLY IT'S A BRAND NEW SPACE. IT'S INSIDE OF AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, UM, WERE SCHEDULED TO OPEN THAT ON SEPTEMBER 24TH OF THIS YEAR. SO HERE IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS THAT LOCATION. UM IT SHOULD DO ANYWHERE BETWEEN 3600 AND $4900 PER DAY. IN REVENUE, SO. YOU TAKE, YOU KNOW OUR CONCEPT THAT WE BASICALLY TESTED IN THE CITY OF HAZLETT, AND NOW WE'RE ABLE TO EXPAND THAT, UM, IN LARGER AREAS LIKE THE CITY OF DENTON, AND SO THAT'S KIND OF OUR MODEL THAT WE WANT TO DO WITH THE ROLLING PIN BAKESHOP AS WELL. WE WANT TO BRING IT TO A SMALLER COMMUNITY. REALLY YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT THAT WE'VE REFINED EVERYTHING THAT WE KNOW THAT IT'S I MEAN, I KNOW IT'S GOING TO WORK, BUT WE KNOW THAT YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY BROUGHT INTO THE COMMUNITY AND, YOU KNOW IT'S SOMETHING THAT COMMUNITY WANTS AND NEEDS AND WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO EXPAND ON THAT AS WELL. SO TO START OUT, WE'RE GONNA 
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HAVE TO FULL TIME EMPLOYEES. ONE OF THEM IS GOING TO BE A GENERAL MANAGER OF THE OTHER IS GOING TO BE A FULL TIME BAKER, CHEF. WHATEVER THEY WANT TO CALL THEMSELVES, AND THERE'S GOING TO BE OUR TWO FULL TIME EMPLOYEES. AND THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE ANYWHERE BETWEEN 12 TO 14 PART TIME EMPLOYEES. THOSE ARE GOING TO BE CALM, SOUS CHEFS HELPERS IN THE KITCHEN. PEOPLE TO WORK THE FRONT COUNTER PEOPLE TO DO HELP WITH DELIVERIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, UM, SO WE'LL HAVE QUITE A BIT OF STAFF THERE. UM 12 50 AN HOUR IS WHAT WE START PEOPLE OFF THAT AND THEN, UM LANSING HAD ASKED THAT WE KIND OF GIVE A VERY CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE ON OUR REVENUE, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE BETWEEN 15 TO $1800 AND JUST LIKE I SAID, THAT'S GOOD. THAT'S VERY CONSERVATIVE BASED ON OUR NUMBERS IN HAZLET, WHICH RANGE TO MY SURPRISE ANYWHERE BETWEEN 39 TO 47% OF OUR DAILY SALES ACTUALLY COME FROM FOOD AND THAT'S YOU KNOW, AT A COFFEE SHOP. SO WHEN WE FIRST OPENED FROTH WE JUST HAD IT WAS JUST COFFEE, AND WE HAD A LITTLE GRAB AND GO THINGS YOU KNOW, LITTLE COOKIES OR WHATEVER, NEXT TO THE REGISTER. AND WE FOUND THAT PEOPLE WOULD COME IN AND GO, MAN. WE LOVE YOUR COFFEE. BUT HOW ABOUT HOW ABOUT A MUFFIN? HOW ABOUT YOU KNOW SCONE OR A CROISSANT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT ? SO THAT REALLY SPARKED US TO GO? OH THERE'S NOT A LOT OF PLACES IN THE COMMUNITY WHERE YOU CAN GO GRAB SOMETHING QUICK FOR BREAKFAST. THAT'S ACTUALLY NOT YOU KNOW, FAST FOOD AND GRAB GET A CUP OF COFFEE AND YOU CAN GO VERSUS SITTING DOWN AT A MORE TRADITIONAL BREAKFAST PLACE LIKE TEXAN DINER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. UM SO WE REALLY EXPANDED ON THE FOOD IDEA, COUPLED WITH THE COFFEE? AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT CATAPULTED US TO KIND OF GO , YOU KNOW, ROLL INTO THE ROLLING PIN BAKESHOP. NO PAN INTENDED ON THAT ONE. SO WITH OUR SUBMISSION TO THE CITY, WE ACTUALLY SUBMITTED OUR PLANS BACK IN APRIL OF 2021. IT HAS TAKEN THAT LONG FOR THE DEVELOPER TO ALMOST GET THE BUILDING TO US. WE'RE ALMOST THERE. UM WE'RE HOPING TO START CONSTRUCTION THIS MONTH. I'M GOING TO SAY IT'S GOING TO BE PROBABLY TOWARDS THE END OF THE MONTH. EVERYTHING'S LINED OUT IN TERMS OF OUR KNOW, OUR GCR CONSTRUCTION CREW WERE ALL READY TO GO. SO I'M HOPING BY THE END OF THE YEAR WE WILL BE OPEN. I WANT TO HIT THAT HOLIDAY SEASON. THAT'S GOING TO BE KEY FOR US. 
          SO I'M GOING TO SAY TOWARDS THE END OF DECEMBER IS WHAT I'M PUSHING FOR TO OPEN THE ROLLING PIN BAKESHOP. LET'S SEE HERE. SO AS LANSING SAID, WE'RE ASKING FOR THE $50,000 GRANT, THE E. D. 
          C AND THE CDC UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED THAT SO I'M ASSUMING TONIGHT WE'RE HERE TO HOPEFULLY , HAVE YOU GUYS RATIFY THAT AND BEAUTIFULLY ACCEPTED, THE FUNDS WILL GO TOWARDS AS LANSING HAD TOUCHED ON JUST THE RISING COST OF ALL OF OUR LARGE EQUIPMENT. THINK OF LARGE MIXERS, OVENS, STOVE TOPS. THINGS TO MAKE ALL THESE BAKERY ITEMS AS WELL AS AS A VENT HOOD, WHICH IS JUST COMMERCIAL HOOD THAN AN EXHAUST . UM THAT'S WHAT PRETTY MUCH ALL THE FUNDS WILL GO TO, AS IN ADDITION TO MANY, MANY OTHER FUNDS SO, UM, THANK YOU, EVERYBODY. THANK YOU. YOU AT HOME? UM AND IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, FEEL FREE TO FIRE AWAY? COUNSELORS. YOU HAVE QUESTIONS. VERY GOOD. OKAY DO WANT TO THANK YOU FOR COMING AND ACTUALLY PRESENTING TO US. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME. YEAH, LANCE IN AND SAID THAT IT WASN'T. YEAH VERY COMMON THING. SO, YEAH, I'M GLAD I WAS ABLE TO PRESENT TO YOU GUYS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANYBODY? OKAY ALRIGHT. THANKS, EVERYBODY. THANK YOU. COUNSELORS WANT TO DISCUSS UM. THE GRAND AMOUNT SEEMS RATHER HIGH COMPARED TO OTHER ESTABLISHMENTS IN NORTHLAKE 50,000 IS SOUNDS KIND OF HIGH FOR A LITTLE SNACK SHOP. I HAD. I HAD SOME COMMENTS ABOUT THAT, TOO. AND I CAME TO THREE CONCLUSIONS. A COUPLE OF THEM TONIGHT. SO THE FIRST ONE, UM YOU KNOW, YOU CAN LOOK AT THE SALES PROJECTIONS AND SO I USUALLY LOOK AT WHAT'S THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT HERE TO TRY TO GET A WINDOW OF THE TIMEFRAME. JOHN KEEPS ME HONEST ON THE MATH, BUT 5 25 TO 600 K. WE SHOULD GET THAT BACK IN 14 MONTHS. IS THAT RIGHT? WOULD YOU? FOUR YEARS. SO HOW'S THAT MOUTH WORK? WE GET TO THAT'S RIGHT NOW. AT SIX, ALRIGHT, SORRY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT I NEEDED FOUR YEARS, OKAY? THAT'S A LITTLE LONGER THAN I ANTICIPATED. UM, I DID NOT KNOW. THANK YOU. LANSING FOR POINTING OUT THAT, UM, THERE IS A PARENT PIONEER GRANT OPPORTUNITY AT THIS LEVEL, THAT'S HELPFUL. GENERALLY SPEAKING, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE NBC AND CBC. YOU KNOW, RATIFY WHAT THEY COME TO CONCLUSION ON, BUT I PREFER IF IT FOLLOWS THE PIONEER GRANT PROGRAM, SO IF THERE'S A SLOT FOR IT THAT LEVEL THAT HELPS ME FEEL A LITTLE BETTER, UM, THE TIMELINE FOR YEARS. I THINK IT'S A LITTLE A LITTLE ON THE LONG SIDE. A LOT OF THESE WHERE WE 
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HAVE KIND OF AN ASSET ON THE GROUND THAT PAYS FOR ITSELF. THAT DOESN'T REALLY GO AWAY WHEN ITS SALES TAX IT CAN. IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE SUCCESS OF THE BUSINESS. I DO KNOW THAT THIS HAS BEEN IN DEMAND, THOUGH. THIS TYPE OF THING AND FOOD SERVICE BUSINESSES DEFINITELY GENERATE A LOT MORE THAN SOME OF THE OTHER SERVICE BUSINESSES WE HAVE. WHICH OF COURSE, WE NEED ALL OF THEM. BUT SERVICE BUSINESSES DON'T GENERATE NEARLY ANY SALES TAX WHATSOEVER. SO THE MORE WE GET IT IS WHAT IT IS. OKAY. CAN YOU MOVE DOWN THE ROAD? WE NEED YOUR SLOT. UM ALL RIGHT, YOU THROW ME OFF MY GAME HERE. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, SO THOSE ARE THE THREE THINGS THAT I WAS LOOKING AT, AND THAT'S THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT IT. THE ONE THING I KNOW IS THAT THE CDCS AND ABC'S CAME UP WITH A LIST OF DESIRED BUSINESS BETWEEN ALL THE BOARDS . AND I BELIEVE IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, YOU CAN CORRECT ME. BUT A SMALL BAKERY WAS ACTUALLY NUMBER ONE ON THAT LIST AMONGST ALL CATEGORIES COMBINED. SO THERE IS DEFINITELY A DESIRE ON THE BOARDS FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS. AND I BELIEVE OUR CITIZENS WOULD PROBABLY LIKE IT AS WELL. I CERTAINLY DON'T NEED ANY MORE SWEETS, BUT I'M SURE YOU GUYS CAN EAT UP ON SOMETHING. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE BUSINESS. 
          IT'S JUST I THINK THE GRANT MONEY IS JUST A LITTLE TOO HIGH TO PROMOTE TASTE. TEXAS ROADHOUSE GOT $50,000 GRANT. IT'LL BE 250,000 OVER THE LIFE OF THE GRANT. AND WHY IS THIS DIFFERENT FROM? THIS OTHER SNAPPING VERY SHOCKED THAT WE SEE 25. WHY IS THIS 50? THIS ONE'S GOT A LOT MORE BUILD OUT COSTS. YEAH AND IT'S GOING TO GENERATE MORE SALES TAX. YEAH I THINK THAT'S THE POINT OF THESE GRANTS IS THAT WE ARE TAKING SOME LEVEL OF RESPONSIBILITY FOR HOW MUCH IT COSTS TO OPEN A BUSINESS NOWADAYS, HAVING BUILT MORE TIMES THAN I CARE TO COUNT OUT A FACILITY FOR A RETAIL BUSINESS. UM $50,000 IS GONE IN THE BLINK OF AN EYE. ESPECIALLY HAVING WORKED IN THE RESTAURANT INDUSTRY BUYING KITCHEN EQUIPMENT GONE JUST GONE. SO THAT THE 50 GRAND IS IT DROP IN THE BUCKET? WHEN I WOULD IMAGINE HE'S GOING TO SPEND 300 GRAND TO OPEN IT? I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT OTHER RECEIVERS A GRANT LIKED, ETCETERA. AH MAY HAVE ONLY RECEIVED HALF THE AMOUNT THAT WILL PROBABLY TAKE TWICE AS LONG BACK. UM IT'S PROBABLY A PRETTY GOOD INVESTMENT FOR A TOWN IF EVERYBODY'S LOOKING FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN A SERVICE LIKE THIS UM THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND. WE STOLE THIS FROM ROANOKE, AND WE TRIED TO PREDICT. AS BEST WE CAN. THE FIVE YEAR PAYBACK, AND THIS IS A FIVE YEAR FORGIVABLE LOAN SO THAT FIVE YEARS IS KIND OF THE METRIC THAT WE USE. AND SO THE SALES AND THE SALES TAX GENERATED. WE HOPE TO GET THAT BACK AND FIVE YEARS IN THIS PRETTY MUCH MATCHES UP. THIS FOLLOWS THE PENTAGRAM PROGRAM. IT'S THE FIRST IN ITS CATEGORY. UM SO IT MATCHES THAT IT MENTIONS THE FIVE YEAR THIS IS A FIVE YEARS FORGIVABLE LOAN, SO EACH YEAR OF EXISTENCE. 20% OF THE LOAN IS FORGIVEN. SO IF THE BUSINESS FAILS, THEY'RE THEY'RE LIABLE FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE LOAN. UM, ON THAT, SO JUST SOME MORE BACKGROUND FOR YOU. I'D MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. OKAY? BILL DID YOU WANT TO WEIGH IN? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I CALL ANY ONCE. ARE YOU GOOD? NO, I'M GOOD. OKAY ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD. THEN WE'LL CALL THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF PROVING AT THE CURRENT LEVEL. AGAIN. I DON'T AGREE. 45 IS BILL SIX. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. ONE. OKAY, GOT THE COUNT. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. WELCOME. CONGRATULATIONS. SO BY CHRISTMAS, RIGHT? HAVE CONTROL. 
          BY CHRISTMAS. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. APPRECIATE YOU COMING. OKAY ITEM 
          [5H. Consider Resolution 22-53, casting votes for the Texas Municipal League Intergovernmental Risk Pool Board of Trustees for Places 6, 7, 8, and 9]
. H. CONSIDER RESOLUTION 22-53 CASTING VOTES FOR THE TML INTER GOVERNMENT INTERGOVERNMENTAL RISK POOL BOARD OF TRUSTEES REPLACES 678 AND NINE SO THIS ONE IS AN INTERESTING ONE. WE HAVEN'T I DON'T BELIEVE WE VOTED ON THIS BEFORE. IS THAT CORRECT, MR CORN? THAT WE VOTED ON THE 
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TML BOARD BEFORE. TWO YEARS AGO. YOU VOTED FOR PLACES 123 AND FOUR AND TWO YEARS FROM NOW, YOU'LL VOTE ON. IN 11, NO 1911 AND 12. I DIDN'T RECALL THAT ONE. SO OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THERE'S AN AWFUL LOT OF NAMES ON THIS LIST AND YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE HEFTY LAST OF PEOPLE ALL ACROSS THE STATE. DIFFERENT COUNCIL MEMBERS, CITY MANAGERS MAYOR'S SO I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU ALL WENT ABOUT IT, BUT WE CAN GET INTO THIS AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE GONNA VOTE ON THIS. SHOULD WE BUILD A SLATE OR SHOULD WE VOTE EACH PAGE OR WHAT WOULD YOU RECOMMEND ASHLEY? EVERYONE. WHATEVER YOU THINK, IS THE MOST EFFICIENT. IT REALLY DOESN'T MATTER. SO LET'S COULD BE INEFFICIENT TOO, IF YOU WANT. THANK YOU. LET'S STRIVE NOT TO BE SO. LET ME JUST START THIS OFF BY SAYING THIS BEFORE I TALK ABOUT ANYBODY OR ANY RECOMMENDATION. UM I DID SOME HOMEWORK ON THIS. MY HOMEWORK WAS BASED ON LOOKING UP THE CITY'S THESE PEOPLE THEIR TRAJECTORY. SOCIAL MEDIA NEWS BULLETINS. WE DO NOT HAVE CONTACT INFORMATION FOR THESE PEOPLE. ALL THAT WERE PROVIDED IS KIND OF A VERY SHORT RESUME. SO THAT TYPICALLY THAT'S NOT ENOUGH FOR WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE. OUR VOTE IS SIGNIFICANTLY INSIGNIFICANT. ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS, BUT TO THE DEGREE THAT WE CAN GIVE IT SOME, YOU KNOW, I RECOMMENDATION. I THINK WE HAVE TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF HOMEWORK. SO I HOPE THAT YOU HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THESE AND COME UP WITH SOME KIND OF FRAMEWORK FOR WHAT YOU THINK IS THE RIGHT WAY OF GOING ABOUT IT. WE ARE. WE HAVE BEEN PROVIDED. IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE SLATE, THERE'S A SHORT BIO ON EACH ONE, THE ROLES THEY HOLD. THE REGION THAT THEY'RE IN AND FOR JUST ABOUT ALL, I THINK THEY ALL REPRESENT A CITY, MEANING A CITY MANAGER, A MAYOR OR COUNCIL MEMBER. OR SLASH COMMISSIONER, DEPENDING ON THEIR FORMER GOVERNMENT. FOUR PLACES TO VOTE ON. WE CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT EACH ONE. IF WE COME TO LARGE AGREEMENT ON EACH ONE WE CAN KEEP GOING AND BUILD A SLATE BEFORE WE VOTE AND TAKE THE TIME TO DO THAT. BUT IF WE HAVE DISAGREEMENTS ON IT, THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO TAKE EACH PLACE AND TRY TO TRY TO GET THIS DONE, SO I'LL OPEN UP THE FLOOR. IF YOU WANT TO START TALKING. LET'S JUST START ON. PLAY SIX AND SEE WHAT SEE WHAT Y'ALL WANT TO DO. ANY THOUGHTS ON PLAY SIX. DID YOU BRING THE DARTBOARD TODAY? NO. AND THIS IS NOT FOR TEXTING MUNICIPAL LEAGUE AT LARGE. IT'S THE SPECIFICALLY THE RISK POOL, WHICH HELPS US WE'RE ACTUALLY CUSTOMER OF THEIRS. THEY PROVIDE LIABILITY WORKERS' COMP INSURANCE FOR THE TOWN. THANK YOU FOR THAT. THIS IS, UH INSURANCE BOARD, BASICALLY THAT MOST TERRIBLY INTERESTING THING UNLESS YOU'RE INTO THAT. BUT AS A YOU KNOW, IN AN ACCOUNTING DEPARTMENT FOR ME, THIS IS INTERESTING. BUT, YOU KNOW. I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MATTERS HERE IS THESE ARE ALL FROM CITIES. AND AS CITIES WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO THIS BOARD TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S REPRESENTATIVE. I THINK THE THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT BIG CITY SMALL CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. MAYOR CITY CITY CITY MANAGERS. I THINK YOU'VE GOT TO LOOK FOR SOME SPREAD TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS REPRESENTED HERE. BUT AT THE SAME TIME WE NEED YOU KNOW A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF CAPABILITY AND BACKGROUND AND APPROACH AND UNFORTUNATELY, THE APPROACH PART IS THE HARDEST PART TO FIGURE OUT BECAUSE THE RESUMES ALL LOOK LIKE ACCOMPLISHED PEOPLE. SO KNOWING WHAT THEIR INTENTIONS ARE WITHOUT HAVING TO HAVE AN INTERVIEW PROCESS FOR EVERY CITY TO VOTE ON THIS ACROSS THE STATE OF TEXAS IS OBVIOUSLY NOT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE EFFICIENT. BUT BACK TO PLAY SIX. 
          I DON'T WANT TO JUMP IN WITH MY RECOMMENDATION. I WANT TO GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO WEIGH IN IF YOU'VE GOT ONE, BUT DOES ANYBODY WANT TO HAZARD A RECOMMENDATION? GIRL I WILL START IT IF YOU IF YOU DON'T ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT ON PLACE SIX AND I REALLY WANT TO AVOID TRYING TO MY RECOMMENDATIONS. I WENT THROUGH THROUGH AN EXCLUSION PROCESS SO I DON'T WANT TO BRING UP. DIRT OR ISSUES THAT I DISCOVERED OUT THERE CHALLENGES PEOPLE HAVE HAD IN THEIR CITIES. NEWS ARTICLES AND SAY WHY I DON'T WANT TO RECOMMEND SOMEBODY. I JUST WENT THROUGH A PROCESS OF LOOKING FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE SEEM TO BE UPSTANDING. DON'T SEEM TO HAVE STANDING ISSUES HAVE GOT SOME TIME AND IN GRADE IN THEIR CITY , SO HOPEFULLY THEY WOULD HAVE THE REPRESENTATION OF THAT CITY AND A LITTLE BIT OF DIVERSITY AS I WENT THROUGH IT, SO THAT'S THAT'S BASICALLY MY FRAMEWORK. 
          SO THE FIRST ONE I AM LEANING TOWARDS ALLISON HAYWARD. WHO IS MAYOR PRO TEM FOR THE CITY OF SHIRTS. AND SHE'S ALREADY ON THE TML BOARD IS AN EXODUS, YOU NONVOTING MEMBER FOR THIS PARTICULAR POOL. IS THAT CORRECT? DID I READ THAT RIGHT? OKAY, SO SHE'S ALREADY ON THIS ONE DOES HAVE AN ACCOUNTING BACKGROUND. SHE'S GOT SOME FEMALE EXPERIENCE, AND I WAS PRETTY HAPPY WITH THE LENGTH OF SERVICE. SO THAT'S THE ONE I WAS LEANING TOWARDS ON THIS ONE. YOU 
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ALL HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT? GOING OR HOW DO YOU WANNA DO THIS? ALRIGHT ALRIGHT, LET'S KEEP GOING ON PLACE SEVEN. UM I DIDN'T COME DOWN TO AN EXACT HAVE TWO ON HERE AT THE BOTTOM, TOO. SO MAYOR HAAS AND RICHMOND IN THE REGION, 14 HER PROFILE STORY AND WHAT SHE'S DOING DOWN THERE JUST SEEMS LIKE A REALLY COOL LITTLE CITY. AND SO YES, AND SOME COOL BACKGROUND I REALLY ENJOYED READING UP ON HER. AND WHAT SHE'S BEEN TRYING TO DO. I LIKE HER APPROACH TO LEADERSHIP, AND I THINK SHOULD BE A GOOD REPRESENTATIVE ON THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY FROM AN ACCOUNTING AND INSURANCE BACKGROUNDS. BUT AGAIN, THIS IS INTENDED TO BE A RISK POOL FOR CITIES WHERE THE CUSTOMERS SO IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE SOMEBODY WHO'S GOING TO GET INTO THE REALLY DETAILS OF THIS. THEIR OVERSIGHT NOT SO MUCH THE EXPERT, SO A BLEND OF ALL OF THOSE WAS OKAY BY ME. THE OTHER ONE IS THE CITY MANAGER FOR WEATHERFORD. MR HO, TOP. UM I HOPE I'M PRONOUNCING HIS NAME CORRECTLY. BUT HIS BACKGROUND IS CITY MANAGER SEEMS PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL. THERE HAS BEEN IN IN THE CITY MANAGER SINCE 2019 AND A LONG BACKGROUND OF UTILITY MANAGEMENT. AND I THINK THAT THAT APPROACH WORKS AS WELL. SO EITHER ONE OF THOSE DIDN'T FIND ANY REASON TO RULE AUDIO EVENT. ON PLACE. EIGHT UM, WENT THROUGH AND LOOKED AT A LOT OF LOT OF RESEARCH AND BACKGROUNDS IN THE NEWS ON A NUMBER OF THESE CITIES AND CAME DOWN TO MIKE LAND FOR THE CITY MANAGER OF APPLE UP IN OUR REGION. I DID TRY TO MAKE SURE WE'VE GOT AT LEAST SOME REPRESENTATION FROM OUR MARKET. THAT'S MORE MORE LOCAL. THIS PARTICULAR GENTLEMAN WAS TOWN MANAGER FOR PROSPER. CITY MANAGER FOR GAINESVILLE HAS A NUMBER OF OTHER ACCOMPLISHMENTS. 
          AND SO I LEAN TOWARDS THAT ONE AFTER KIND OF WORKING THROUGH THE OTHERS, AND JUST LOOKING AT PROFILES AND THEIR ACCOMPLISHMENTS. AND FINALLY IN PLACE, NINE WAS LEANING TOWARDS THE FIRST ONE, WHICH IS VERY BEARD, COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER FOR THE CITY OF RICHMOND. SINCE 2016 AND HE'S A BANKING PROFESSIONAL. AND LONG. LIKE MANY OF THESE PEOPLE, THEY'VE GOT A DOZEN DIFFERENT ROLES. THEY PLAY FROM SPORTS TO CITY MANAGEMENT TO CITY DEVELOPMENT TO ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT THINGS HISTORICAL COMMISSION AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. I DON'T KNOW THAT ANYBODY ON HERE FROM A RESUME STANDPOINT, YOU CAN RULE OUT ACCOMPLISHMENTS ARE LONG TENURED. THAT'S KIND OF A GIVEN TABLE STAKES FOR THESE ROLES, BUT IN LOOKING AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT PEOPLE FROM SOME DIFFERENT APPROACHES AND DIFFERENT REGIONS OF THE STATE THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT CAME UP WITH. I WILL SAY THAT MAYOR HAAS IS FROM RICHMOND AS WELL AND REGION 14 AND VERY, VERY JUST FROM RICHMOND AS WELL. SO I GUESS I FELL A LITTLE BIT INTO THAT. TRAP OF FINDING TWO THAT ARE IN THE SAME REGION IN THE SAME CITY. SO I'M NOT SURE WE WANT TO GO THAT DIRECTION. BUT THOSE ARE WHAT I CAME DOWN TO ALL THE REST. I'M SURE IT WOULD BE ACCOMPLISHED AND CAPABLE. CAN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT ABOUT THEM WITH THE MINIMAL AMOUNT OF RESEARCH THAT I COULD GET TOGETHER. BUT THOSE WERE THE SELECTIONS AND I CAME UP WITH IN TERMS OF TERMS OF OPTIONS THAT I WAS LEANING TOWARDS, BUT IT'S JUST A LEAN. IT'S NOT A I'M NOT GIVING YOU A STREET SOLID RECOMMENDATION HERE. THAT MAKES SENSE. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY THOUGHTS OFF THE PAGE AND JUMP OFF OF YOU? OR WERE YOU ABLE TO LOOK INTO THESE FOLKS AT ALL AND PROVIDE ANY GUIDANCE? MAIN OPTION WOULD BE TO KEEP THE INCUMBENT ON PLACE. NINE. OKAY? SEEMS VERY ACCOMPLISHED. I MEAN, THAT'S IN OUR REGION. YEAH THAT THAT IS SOMETHING. LOOK AT IT AND COME AND SEE IN THIS TYPE OF STUFF DEFINITELY GIVES YOU SOME SOME BACKGROUND, WHICH IS HELPFUL. OKAY WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO WITH THIS? IF YOU DON'T TELL ME, THEN I'LL JUST JUMP IN AND PUT EMOTION IN FOR THAT SLAVE BASICALLY. OTHERWISE GO AHEAD AND PARKING ON THAT MAKE THE MOTION. OKAY? UH MOTION TO APPROVE ALLISON HAYWARD FOR PLAY SIX. MOTION TO APPROVE MAYOR HAAS FOR PLACE SEVEN MOTION TO APPROVE MIKE LAND, REPLACE EIGHT AND MOTION TO APPROVE OPAL JONES. PLACE NINE. AS A SLEEP. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND FROM WEST ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION. ALL RIGHT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. YOUR HANDS BY ANY OPPOSED. ALRIGHT. VERY GOOD. 
          THANK YOU. ALRIGHT WE'RE GONNA GO BACK TO ITEM E CONSIDER RESOLUTION 22-49 IMPROVING, 
          [5E. Consider Resolution 22-49, approving and directing publication of notice of intention to issue certificates of obligation]
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DIRECTING THE PUBLICATION NOTICE OF INTENTION TO ISSUE C. O S. UM ON THIS ONE. MY EMPLOYER LIKES ME TO AVOID THESE DISCUSSIONS AS FAR AS THE SELECTION OF A ISSUER AND THE DIRECTION TO DO SO, HOWEVER, FROM A CAPITAL PLANNING STANDPOINT, THE PROJECTS THEMSELVES AND TALKED ABOUT IN THE PAST, AND SO I'M PERFECTLY ABLE TO WEIGH IN ON THE PROJECTS. THESE ARE ALL PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE. UM AGREED TO DO WE'VE DIRECTED INITIAL STEPS ON WE'VE BEEN BRIEFED MANY TIMES ON EACH OF THESE, AND I'M IN SUPPORT OF THE PROJECTS COUNCIL YOU'LL NEED TO DISCUSS IF IT'S THE RIGHT TIME FOR THESE. AND IF THE APPROACH USING CEOS IS CORRECT, SO I'M GOING TO EXCUSE MYSELF. I DO NOT HAVE A LEGAL CONFLICT FROM THE CITY STANDPOINT, AND THIS IS AN EMPLOYMENT. CONSIDERATION AND FOR MY EMPLOYER AND SO I'M GOING TO TURN THE MEETING OVER TO THE MAYOR PRO TEM, STEP OUT, AND THEN WHEN YOU FINISH CALL EXECUTIVE SESSION AND BRING US BACK FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE AGENDA. I DO NOT BELIEVE WE HAVE ANY DO ANY ACTIONS COMING OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION TONIGHT? ANTICIPATED OKAY. VERY GOOD. ALRIGHT. I DON'T SEE YOU ON THE FLIP SIDE. HAVE A GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU, MAYOR. DREW. IS THERE ANYTHING YOU NEED TO ADD ON THIS BEFORE WE MOVE AHEAD. I'LL BE GLAD TO SUMMARIZE, AND THEN THE MAYOR SET IT UP. VERY WELL. UM THIS IS INTENT TO ISSUE C O S. THIS IS PART OF YOUR CAPITAL BUDGET. THIS IS MEETS A NUMBER OF YOUR BUDGET PRIORITIES AND TO DIVERSIFY THE TAX BASE. THIS SUPPORTS THE INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT DOWN IN KATHERINE BRANCH IN THE ADDITIONAL CAPACITY THROUGH FORT WORTH THE DESIGN OF THE TRUNK LINE AT THE BEGINNING OF THAT PROCESS OF ALL THOSE CAPITAL PROJECTS. ANOTHER BUDGET PRIORITY IS TO INVEST IN INFRASTRUCTURE. SO THIS HITS A NUMBER OF THE PREDATORY PRIORITIES. COUNCIL. UM AND SO IN, AND FINALLY THERE ARE THERE HAVE BEEN SOME COST OVERRUNS WERE ALL VERY WELL AWARE OF THAT. AND SO THIS MEETS THOSE NEEDS YOU. WE'VE ALREADY BEGUN THE DESIGN PROCESS OF THE MAJOR TRUNK LINE. BUT YOU ISSUED A REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION THAT GIVES US THE ABILITY TO PAY OURSELVES BACK FOR ANY OF THAT DESIGN THAT HAS PROCEEDED, WE WILL FOLLOW ALL NECESSARY NOTICES. WE HAD WE HAVE THE FINANCIAL ADVISOR HERE WITH HILLTOP SECURITIES. MARTY SHOE IS ABLE TO I DISCUSSED THIS, WE WILL COME BACK. IN OCTOBER WITH A DRAFT OFFICIAL STATEMENT, AND IN NOVEMBER, THE COUNCIL WILL CONSIDER THE ACTUAL ISSUANCE OF THE CEOS AND THEY WILL BE SOLD. I THINK THAT NEXT DAY OR SOON THEREAFTER. ACTUALLY UM, PAPERWORK UP HERE ON OFFICIAL LANGUAGE. DO WE NEED BOTH ITEMS? THERE IS OFFICIAL LANGUAGE UP HERE FOR THE. INTENT RESOLUTIONS. YES, PLEASE, OKAY. COUNSELOR DO WE COVERED ALL THIS IN BUDGET? ALL THESE PROJECTS WERE CONSIDERED BY COUNCIL. UM, IF THERE PROBABLY ISN'T A DISCUSSION ON THESE ITEMS, BUT THERE IS RAISE YOUR HAND. BEFORE WE GET TO IT. ALRIGHT WITH THAT . I'D LIKE TO CONSIDER THE ADOPTION OF A RESOLUTION DIRECTING PUBLICATION OF A NOTICE OF INTENTION TO ISSUE CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATIONS. OKAY AND THEN I ALSO MOVED TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION DIRECTING THE PUBLICATION OF NOTICE OF INTENTION TO ISSUE CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION. THAT IS MY MOTION. VERBATIM. IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALRIGHT, WE'LL TAKE A VOICE VOTE. SHOW OF HANDS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. ALL RIGHT. AND BILL AND THAT IS UNANIMOUS. WITH THE MAYOR. ABSTAINING. ALL RIGHT. AND WITH THAT, I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY 
          [6. EXECUTIVE SESSION]
FOR ATTENDING TONIGHT. WELL, WE WILL BE CONVENING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION WITH NO ANTICIPATED ACTIONS THIS EVENING UNDER SECTION 5517155107. AND 55187. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IF YOU PREFER. STICK AROUND UNTIL WE GET BACK. THAT IS FINE. BUT HAVE A GOOD EVENING. IF YOU CHOOSE TO. THE PART. IT IS 7 43 PM WE'VE RETURNED FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION
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