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GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THIS IS THE NORTH LAKE TOWN COUNCIL MEETING IS 5:30 P.M. AUGUST 10TH 2023. WE HAVE FIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS PLUS MYSELF PRESENT THIS EVENING.

ACTUALLY, IT'S 45 TOTAL. EXCUSE ME. COUNCIL MEMBER KICKER IS NOT HERE TONIGHT. HE'S ILL, SO WE'LL GIVE HIM A PASS. UM WE'VE GOT A FULL AGENDA TONIGHT. THERE'S QUITE A FEW THINGS FOR US TO GET THROUGH TONIGHT. SO WE'RE GONNA GET STARTED RIGHT AWAY. MR COREN , DO WE HAVE SOMEONE FOR AN INDICATION TONIGHT? YES WE DO. PASTOR GAINS A WORD OF TRUTH. JERMAINE IS HERE. EXCELLENT.

THANK YOU. SORRY. COME ON DOWN. INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND THEN OPENED SOME PRAYER, PLEASE.

ABSOLUTELY MY NAME IS JERMAINE GAINS. UM PLEASURE TO BE HERE TONIGHT IF EVERYBODY WOULD BOTHER HEADS AND PRAY. DEAR HEAVENLY FATHER. GOD WE THANK YOU FOR ANOTHER DAY BEING ALIVE ANOTHER DAY TO HAVE YOUR BREATH IN OUR LUNGS. OH, GOD, FATHER GOD TODAY AS THIS MEETING OF THE MINDS, AND THE MEETING OF THE HEARTS COMES INTO INTO TIME RIGHT NOW AND FATHER GOD, I PRAY THAT YOU WILL BE IN THIS ROOM. FATHER. GOD, I PRAY THAT YOU WERE A MOVE ALL FEAR ALL DOUBT.

ALL SHAME. ALL PRIOR, PREJUDGMENT, FATHER, GOD, AND SO WE WILL HAVE CLEAR MINDS. FATHER GOD, THAT YOUR AGENDA WILL GO FORTH FOR THE COMMUNITY FOR THE FAMILIES. FATHER GOD FOR THE FINANCES. FATHER GOD FOR EVERY AREA OF THIS COMMUNITY SO THAT YOU WILL BE GLORIFIED IN THIS ROOM. IT IS IN YOUR SON, JESUS' MIGHTY MATCHLESS NAME THAT WE PRAY. LET EVERYBODY SAY AMEN.

AMEN. THANK YOU. AND THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. COMMISSION THIS WORLD JUSTICE FOR THIS WAY. YES ONCE A ONE INDIVISIBLE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE

[2.A. Consider a Resoluon of the Town of Northlake, Texas, appoinng a member to fill the vacancy on the Town Council for Councilmember, Place 6, providing the term begins immediately upon appointment and administraon of oath of office and concludes on May 4, 2024, or when asuccessor is duly elected and qualified to take office]

GONNA GET STARTED TONIGHT WITH SORT OF AN OFF CYCLE ITEM BECAUSE THIS IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT SITUATION, BUT I WANT TO REMIND US OF HOW WE GOT HERE. SO WE HAD A COUNCIL MEMBER VACANCY COME UP TO US IN THE BEGINNING OF JUNE, AND ABOUT JUNE THE JUNE 8TH COUNCIL MEETING, WE RECEIVED A NOTICE OF VACATION. FROM THAT SEAT. AND THEN THAT EVENING WE DISCUSSED THE OPPORTUNITIES WE HAD TO FILL THAT SEAT, WHICH IS BY ELECTION. OR BY APPOINTMENT, AND AT THAT MEETING, IT WAS DECIDED THAT THE COUNCIL WANTED TO PROCEED WITH WITH AN APPOINTMENT. AND SO WE TOOK THE TIME FOR A MONTH TO OPEN A WINDOW FOR APPLICANTS FROM THE TOWN TO APPLY FOR THAT POSITION. WE'VE HAD TO HAVE APPLIED FOR IT. THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING WE HAD OPPORTUNITY HERE FROM BOTH THOSE APPLICANTS. I APPRECIATE YOU BOTH TAKING THE TIME TO BE A PART OF THAT AND SUBMIT YOUR APPLICATIONS. THAT WAS ON JULY 27TH. AND TONIGHT, ACCORDING TO THE SCHEDULE THAT YOU LAID OUT IN THE BEGINNING, WE NEED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION AND MAKE AN APPOINTMENT TO THAT OFFICE. AS A REMINDER, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IF YOU'RE LISTENING TO THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEETINGS, I DIDN'T HAVE THIS RIGHT ON ONE OF THE MEETINGS. I WAS TRYING TO CLARIFY, AND I CAME AWAY WITH THE WRONG IMPRESSION AS TO WHAT THE PERIOD WAS THAT WE WERE POINTING TO. I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT WAS FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE TERM, WHICH IS FAIRLY LENGTHY AS AS IT TURNS OUT, WHAT IS ON THE ON THE AGENDA HERE IS CORRECT. THIS IS APPOINTMENT WILL BE UNTIL THE MAY ELECTION OF NEXT YEAR. SO THE PERSON WHO WILL BE SEATED THIS EVENING. POTENTIALLY THAT'S WE DON'T HAVE TO APPOINT ONE. SOME SOMEONE TONIGHT COUNCIL.

GET INTO THAT IN A MINUTE. BUT THE CHOICE WE MAKE TONIGHT CAN ONLY LAST UNTIL THE NEXT ELECTION, WHICH WOULD BE THE FEBRUARY FILING PERIOD AND THE MAY LOCAL ELECTION IN 2024. SO ROUGHLY EIGHT OR NINE MONTHS HERE. SO LET'S JUST REMIND THE COUNCIL FOR A SECOND WHAT THEIR OPTIONS ARE THIS EVENING. YOU HAVE TO APPLICANTS. WE'VE LAID OUT A PROCESS. LEGALLY SPEAKING , YOU CAN GO OFF BOOK FROM THOSE APPLICANTS, BUT WE'VE SET UP A PROCESS BY WHICH TO RESPECT THE APPLICANTS AND THE PUBLIC AS TO HOW WE WENT ABOUT IT. I HOPE YOU DON'T GET ON THAT PATH, BUT YOU'RE TECHNICALLY LEGALLY ALLOWED TO APPOINT ANYONE AS LONG AS YOU HAVE A MAJORITY OF THE COUNCIL SECOND, YOU CAN TAKE NO ACTION. IF YOU TAKE NO ACTION , THEN WE HAVE TO EVALUATE WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS AND WHAT ARE IMPLICATIONS THAT ARE BECAUSE WE MAY NEED TO NOT SURE WE MIGHT HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT. SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT. IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION OF THE COUNCIL WANTS TO GO THIRD, WE HAVE TO APPLICANTS WHO HAVE BEEN DEEMED QUALIFIED TO TAKE OFFICE.

AND YOU CAN CHOOSE ONE OF THOSE TONIGHT. SO THOSE ARE THE FULL LIST OF LEGAL OPTIONS YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING. AND SO AT THIS TIME, WE HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THAT AND

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TO MAKE A SELECTION. SO I'M GOING TO OPEN THE FLOOR AND ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO JUMP IN AND START TO TALK ABOUT THAT, THEN YOU YOU'RE FREE TO DO SO YOU'RE FREE TO MAKE A MOTION TO START OR YOU'RE FREE TO DISCUSS FIRST AND THEN WAIT TO MAKE A MOTION UNTIL YOU FEEL OPEN TO DO SO.

BUT YOU'RE OPEN FOR BOTH AT THIS POINT. ANYBODY WANT TO START? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. OKAY, BY THE WAY, COUNCIL THE VOTING SYSTEM IS NOT WORKING TONIGHT. SO WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING OFF MANUAL TONIGHT. SO JUST PLEASE SPEAK UP A LITTLE BIT WHEN YOU MAKE YOUR VOTES AND DO A HAND SIGNAL AS WELL. SO WE GET BOTH THE RECORD AND FOR THE AUDIO AS WELL. OKAY ALRIGHT. PLEASE GO AHEAD, COUNSELOR. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT MR FOWLER. OKAY? EMOTIONS BEEN PRESENTED. I NEED A SECOND BEFORE WE CAN CONTINUE DISCUSSION. IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION. THERE'S BEEN A SECOND BY THE MAYOR PROGRAM. ALL RIGHT, THE FLOOR IS OPEN FOR DISCUSSION. DID YOU WANT TO START SINCE IT WAS YOUR EMOTION? DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS YOU WANT TO MAKE? MY EXPERIENCE WITH THE WELL, FIRST OF ALL, WE HAVE TO QUALIFIED APPLICANTS AND INSTEAD OF GOING ANY OTHER PROCESS WE HAVE WE'VE DECIDED TO APPOINT, AND I THINK WE SHOULD STICK TO THAT. ALSO MY EXPERIENCE WITH MR FOWLER ON P AND Z. HE WAS THE CHAIR WHEN I WAS THERE, AND I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH HIM. SO THAT IS WHERE MY RECOMMENDATION COMES FROM. I'LL SECOND THAT WOULD BE AN APPOINTMENT THAT WE MADE. HOWEVER MR FOWLER REALLY IMPRESSED ME DURING THE HOME RULE CHARTER COMMITTEE. AND HIS PRESIDENTS AND ACTIVITY ON THAT COMMITTEE. UM AND I APPRECIATE HIS SERVICE TO THE TOWN AT THAT POINT. THANK YOU. SO IT WASN'T MY INITIAL TAKE. I DIDN'T VOTE FOR THE APPOINTMENT PROCESS. IT WAS MY INITIAL TAKE. AS I SAID BEFORE, WAS THAT THIS WAS FOR A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME. AND SO I FELT THAT A I ELECTION WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE APPROPRIATE BECAUSE IT WAS CLOSER TO THE FULL TWO YEAR TERM. SINCE IT'S NOT THE CASE, AND I'M OKAY WITH THIS PROCESS, SO I'LL WEIGH IN HERE. I TOOK THREE THINGS AWAY FROM MY ANALYSIS OF THIS JUST TO SIMPLIFY THE THOUGHTS I HAD ON THE MATTER. ONE IS DO WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE CAPABLE OF DOING THE JOB AND THAT'S NUMBER ONE, AND IN BOTH CASES, BOTH PEOPLE ARE QUALIFIED. THEY'VE SERVED THE TOWN AND I THINK THEY BOTH SATISFY THAT REQUIREMENT. UM SECOND, I DO HAVE A DESIRE, AND IT'S BEEN SOMETHING THAT I'M VERY PROUD OF THAT WE HAVE EXPANDED THE REACH OF OUR COUNCIL TO NEW PEOPLE AND ALSO THE SUB BOARDS TO NEW PEOPLE.

THE CHARTER COMMISSIONERS WAS MENTIONED THE SUB BOARDS. WE'VE HAD A REALLY NICE, HEALTHY TURNOVER OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE CONTRIBUTED AND PARTICIPATED, AND I LIKE TO SEE THAT CONTINUE.

AND SO THAT THAT WAS A CONSIDERATION I MADE AND THIRD, I DID TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN THROUGH THE ELECTION PROCESS. ONLY ONE OF THE TWO APPLICANTS HAS AND AS TO HOW THE PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC RESPONDED TO THAT. SO THOSE ARE THE CRITERIA THAT I TOOK AWAY FROM IT. I'M IN SUPPORT OF THE MOTION AND THE SECOND TONIGHT FOR MR FOWLER. ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK? ALRIGHT THEN WE WILL TAKE A VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO APPOINT MR FOWLER TO THE ROOM TO THE EIGHT OR NINE MONTHS OF THIS TERM UNTIL THE NEXT GENERAL ELECTION. SAY I RAISE YOUR HAND, ALL RIGHT. ANY POST. FOR YES. AND WHEN I'M STAYING ALRIGHT.

ARE WE GOOD? OKAY VERY GOOD. ALRIGHT, SO AT THIS TIME, I HAVE SOME PAPERWORK TO DO. AND THEN

[2.B. Oath & Statement of Office i. Administer Oath & Statement of Office to Newly Appointed Town Councilmember]

WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND SWEARING, MR FOWLER, AND THEN HE'LL TAKE A SEAT TONIGHT AND PARTICIPATE WITH US. BUT JUST GIVE ME A SECOND. WE'LL GET THE LOGISTICS ROLLING. WE'LL JUST TAKE A BREAK FOR JUST A MOMENT THAT I HAVE TO TAKE AN OFFICIAL BREAK HERE. BUT WE'LL JUST WE'LL GET THIS DONE IN JUST A SECOND, ALL RIGHT. BUT WE'LL HAVE YOU SWORN IN HERE IN JUST A SECOND.

COME UP HERE. 30 CENTURIES.

RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, SIR. PLEASE REPEAT AFTER ME. DO YOU ERIN FOWLER? KARIN FELLER, SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM? THAT YOU WILL FAITHFULLY EXECUTE THE DUTIES OF THE OFFICE OF COUNCIL MEMBER PLACE. SIX OF THE TOWN OF NORTH LAKE AND WILL TO THE BEST OF YOUR ABILITY, ABILITY,

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PRESERVE, PROTECT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES AND OF THE STATES WILL HELP YOU GOD. CONGRATULATIONS, SIR. SIGN HERE, PLEASE. THANK YOU.

ASHLEY.

OKAY? THE TERM THAT HE RUNS FOR NEXT MAY WILL BE A ONE YEAR TERM IS THAT CORRECT TERM FOR ANYONE WHO RUNS FOR THAT SEAT NEXT YEAR? BUT NOT NECESSARILY, MR FOWLER? HE HAS TO CHOOSE TO DO SO. BUT YES THEN YES, CORRECT. NEXT YEAR. THAT WOULD BE A ONE YEAR TERM FOR PLACE SIX. BUT NO ONE IS OBLIGATED TO FILE FOR THAT SEAT. THEY CAN FILE FOR A DIFFERENT SEAT. HE COULD FILE FOR A DIFFERENT SEAT. WHATEVER CHOICES, BUT THERE WILL BE. THREE COUNCIL SEATS UP THE MAYOR'S SEAT AND PLACE SIX FOR ONE YEAR. THE COUNCIL SEATS ARE FOR TWO AND THE MAYOR STEVE IS FOR THREE. SO THERE'LL BE THREE DIFFERENT TERMS FOR FIVE DIFFERENT SEATS AVAILABLE IN THE SPRING ELECTION. OKAY? I MEAN, HE IS A GENERIC TERM NOT YES, SIR. YES, SIR. VERY GOOD. ALL RIGHT. WELL, UM YOU KNOW? I APPRECIATE MR FOWLER THROWING HIS HAT IN THE RING. APPRECIATE YOU, MS HARDMAN THROUGH THROWING YOUR HAT IN THE RING. APPRECIATE BOTH OF YOU. YOU HELP US MAKE THIS A EASIER PROCESS THAN IT COULD HAVE BEEN, UM, DID A GREAT JOB WITH YOUR SPEECHES LAST TIME, AND I APPRECIATE YOU BOTH TAKING PART IN THAT PROCESS, SO THANK YOU. OKAY? LET'S GET ON

[3.A. Presentaon - Employee Service Awards Nathan Reddin - 15 years of service]

WITH OUR AGENDA THIS EVENING. WE HAVE AN EMPLOYEE SERVICE AWARD. UH MR CORNELL, GIVE YOU A SECOND TO THANK YOU KEEP TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET MY SCREEN TO SCROLL UP AND IT JUST WASN'T GOING. THANK YOU. UM BUT MR REDDEN IS HERE TONIGHT, AND HE'S GOT A 15 YEAR SERVICE AWARD FROM US. THAT'S A REALLY LONG PERIOD OF TIME. BY ANY STRETCH FOR ANY FOR ANY YOU KNOW, EMPLOYMENT PERIOD, SO WE'RE REALLY APPRECIATIVE THAT HE'S STUCK WITH US THIS MANY YEARS I'LL GIVE MR CORNYN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY A FEW WORDS. THANK YOU. WILL YOU HAVE A VIDEO MONTAGE OR A PHOTO MONTAGE WILL GO VERY SLOWLY. AH NATHAN SAID. IT WILL BE ABLE TO TRACK HIS HIS HAIRLINE AS WE GO THROUGH THIS. UM I THINK I'VE BEEN HERE 10 MONTHS AND HIRED, UH, HIRED NATHAN. HE HAD PLANNING EXPERIENCE FROM CITY KILLER AND FROM HIS EDUCATION AND U. T. A VERY INTERESTED IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AS WELL AND YOU KNOW , ESPECIALLY AT THE BEGINNING AND STILL TO THIS DAY, WE WERE A LOT OF HATS AND SO GREAT ADDITION TO OUR STAFF. HE'S HE'S BEEN HERE ALMOST SINCE THE BEGINNING. I THINK I'VE HIRED LEE AND A LITTLE BIT BEFORE WE JUST CELEBRATED HER 15TH SO VERY APPRECIATIVE OF. NATHAN AND HIS CONSISTENCY. WE'VE HAD SOME.

WE'VE HAD SOME HEALTH SCARES, AND WE'VE GOT THROUGH THOSE AND JUST BLESSED TO HAVE HIM ON THE TEAM AND WHAT WE WANT THE 15 YEAR. WE KIND OF BACKED INTO THIS TRADITION, BUT WE'RE GOING TO STICK TO IT IS A IS A STREET SIGN WHEN YOU'VE BEEN HERE FOR 15 YEARS, SO THANK YOU, NATHAN.

FOR YOUR SERVICE APPRECIATE YOU. YEAH. RIGHT? YEAH THAT'S FOR YOU.

OKAY? COPY ALLOTTED LIKE 10 MINUTES FOR A SPEECH FROM HIM. ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. ENJOY DOING

[3.B. Briefing - Fireworks Update]

THAT. ALRIGHT WE'VE GOT WE'RE GOING TO SWITCH BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN KIND OF FUN TOPICS AND MAYBE NOT SO FUN TOPICS, BUT I KNOW THIS ONE HAS BEEN, UM, AN INTERESTING ONE FOR US. IS IT FUN OR NOT FUN? I'M NOT SURE YET. FIND OUT HE ASKED. LET ME JUST PUT A LITTLE CONTEXT ON

[00:15:03]

THIS. SO THIS IS COMING BACK BECAUSE THE ORDINANCES THAT HAVE BEEN PASSED THERE'S CHALLENGES AND ENFORCING THEM. AND SO AS WE PASS THINGS, THERE ARE REPERCUSSIONS TO IT. AND THERE ARE THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE STAFFER THAN REQUIRED TO DO. AND SOMETIMES WE PUT THEM IN SOME DIFFICULT SPOTS, AND SOMETIMES THEY HAVE TO COME BACK TO US AND FIGURE OUT HOW ARE WE GOING TO DO THIS? YOU HAVE TO COME UP WITH OTHER POLICIES IN ORDER TO AFFECT IT. SO THIS IS ONE WHERE WE HAVE A POLICY. NOW WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO ENFORCE IT. AND CHIEF TELL US WHAT THE CHALLENGE YOU'RE FACING IS ALRIGHT. WELL, LIKE YOU SAID, THEY'RE THE POLICY THAT WE HAVE IS VERY DIFFICULT TO FORCE BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO SEE THE PEOPLE LIGHTING OFF FIREWORKS, SO WE HAVE TO WIN. IT'S JUST LIKE WITH THE WINNER, SOMEBODY SPEEDING OR NOT, USING TURNS INTO RUNNING, STOP SIGN SAYING THING WITH FIREWORKS. WE DO HAVE IN OUR ORDINANCE THAT, UM WE CAN CITE FOR POSSESSION OF FIREWORKS IN THE TOWN LIMITS WON'T INCLUDE HARVEST BECAUSE IT'S NOT A NUISANCE, LIKE IGNORING FIREWORKS WOULD BE SO, UM. WE HAVE ISSUES WITH STORAGE OF FIREWORKS BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO START EXPLOSIVE IN THE PROPERTY ROOM WERE INSIDE THE FACILITY. SO WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO WE PARTNERED WITH THE SD. TO PURCHASE A LARGE FLAMMABLE CABINET. AND PUT DOWN THERE. THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. IT'S BETWEEN PROBABLY $4800 FOR THE CABINET, BUT ONLY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAVE THE KEYS FOR IT, AND I'VE TALKED TO CHIEF VAUGHN AND HE'S ALL IN FOR IT. SO UH, WE THINK IT'S BEING A GOOD ADDITION. BUT WE DO HAVE TO HOLD THE FLOWERS FOR 30 DAYS. ACCORDING TO I GUESS OCCUPATIONS CODE. WELL, I MEAN, ACTUALLY TALKED ABOUT THIS FOR SEVERAL DAYS. SO ONCE THAT IS GOING TO PLACE IF THEY HAVEN'T FILED, UM WITH THE DISTRICT COURT TO GET THEIR FIREWORKS BACK OR TO GO TO COURT. THEN WE CAN DESTROY HIM.

SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE STAND RIGHT NOW. SO CAN YOU ADD A LITTLE BIT MORE TO THIS? UH YOU KNOW IF YOU HAVE A CABINET YES, THAT'S THE DIRECTION WE GO WITH THIS. WHY IS IT THAT YOU CAN'T JUST PUT IT IN THE PD? WHAT DOES HAVE TO BE AT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT? WELL, BUT THEY HAVE HOSES WITH WATER AND WE DON'T SO THAT'S ONE REASON BUT WE JUST CAN'T HAVE EXPLOSIVES INSIDE THE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE WE HAVE OVER EVIDENCE THERE. FIRE DEPARTMENT DOESN'T HAVE EVIDENCE FOR CRIMES, OTHER CRIMES. SO IF WE IF THE PD GOES UP IN FLAMES, WE LOSE EVERYTHING FROM 1998 TO THE PRESENT. SECONDLY WE'RE IT'S A RENTED BUILDING. IT'S NOT OUR BUILDING, AND, UM WHEN WE DO BUILD WILL HAVE A RUGGEDIZED BUNKER FOR THESE TYPES OF MATERIALS, BUT, UM, THIS IS THIS IS OUR SOLUTION IN THE INTERIM. OKAY ALRIGHT, COUNSELOR. I WON'T JUMP AHEAD ANY MORE THAN THAT, BECAUSE I DO HAVE SOME MORE QUESTIONS. BUT I WANT TO. I WANT TO LEAVE IT OPEN TO YOU BECAUSE IT'S I GOT A LITTLE BIT OF A BRIEFER ON THIS, BUT I'LL OPEN THE OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS, THE CHIEF EVERYBODY'S THINKING I'M GOING FIRST. THERE MUST BE A REASON. YEAH. I GOT A PROBLEM WITH THIS ONLY IN TOWN LIMITS. STATEMENT THE COUNCIL PASSED AN ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING A NUISANCE BOUNDARY. FOR THE PEOPLE ON SCHOBER. THE BIGGEST PROBLEM IS EMANATING FROM HARVEST. JUST LAST MONTH AFTER JULY 4TH STILL HAD IT GOING ON. THEORY AND I MUNICIPAL JUDGE BOTH GOTTEN OUR VEHICLES DROVE UP THE HILL. AND HOW TO FRANK DISCUSSION WITH THE PEOPLE. WE GAVE THE POLICE THE TAG NUMBERS. I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT'S COME OF THAT. BUT THE PROBLEM IS. IS THE PROBLEM IS EMANATING FROM HARVEST, AND WE HAVE YOU SET UP AN ORDINANCE ESTABLISHES A NUISANCE BOUNDARY. SO WHY ARE WE LIVING IN THIS? ONLY. TO TOWN LIMITS. WE DO HAVE THE BOUNDARIES THE WAY THAT THE WAY THE ORDINANCES WRITTEN. IT SAYS IGNITION. ONLY IN 5000 FT.

OUTSIDE. IT DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT POSSESSION. IN THE TOWN IS POSITIONED IN IGNITION. SO AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN CHANGE THE LAW FOR 5000 FT FOR A NUISANCE FOR HARD TO DESCRIBE.

POSSESSIONS LOSING PACKAGE FIREWORKS AS A NUISANCE. YOU'RE NOT SAYING THAT YOU COULDN'T GET THEM FOR IGNITION. CORRECT THAT YOU CAN'T GET THEM JUST FOR POSITION. CORRECT YES, WE CAN STILL ISSUE FOR IGNITION. I DON'T THINK THE ORDINANCE WAS THAT SPECIFIC. DELINEATING. TOWN LIMITS FROM ME. T. J. IN THAT SECTION. IT IS WELL THE ORDINANCE AFFECTS TOWN LIMITS.

WE'VE USED THE NUISANCE CATEGORY . WE DO THIS WITH LIFE. WE DO THIS WITH NOISE WE'VE DONE. WE USE THE NEW NUISANCE TO STRETCH OUT 5000 FROM THE TOWN LIMITS, RIGHT? SO IT IT WAS DECLARED A NUISANCE PHANTASM OUTSIDE THE TOWN LIMITS FOR POSITIONS IN THE FIREWORK STANDS COULDN'T SELL RIGHT THERE RIGHT OUTSIDE OF OUR BORDERS. CORRECT. WE HAVEN'T WE HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THAT. SPECIFIC

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STATE STATUTE THAT SAYS THAT CANNOT YOU'RE SELLING OUTSIDE TOWN. WE COULD NEVER DECLARE THAT EMISSIONS. I THINK IT'D BE HARD TO PROVE TO THE POSITIONS IN ESSENCE. I'M SORRY. I THINK IT'S HARD TO PROVE THAT POSSESSION OF FIREWORKS WOULD BE THAT WOULD BE HARD TO DEFEND.

YES. AND THIS IS ALL LIKE SAID, ACCORDING TO THE LAW. I MEAN, WE JUST FOLLOW WHAT THEY PUT IN PAPER SO DID DID WE ACTUALLY PASSED THE NUISANCE GOING OUT? 5000 FT. I THOUGHT THAT MOTION FAILED. NO, IT PASSED. SO YEAH, IN THAT CASE, I MEAN, HAVING THIS I UNDERSTAND FROM TALKING TO YOU, CHIEF SEPARATELY THAT YEAH, POSSESSION WAS HARD TO VERY ENFORCE BECAUSE YOU COULDN'T TAKE POSSESSION OF THEM IN. THAT WAS A LOT OF POSSESSION YOURSELF LESS IGNITION. AND THAT WAS THE CHALLENGE FOR THE OFFICERS, WRITING CITATIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, AND WE DID THE ISSUE TWO CITATIONS THIS YEAR. YOU KNOW, I CALLED MANY OTHER AGENCIES TO FIND OUT HOW MANY CITATIONS THEY ISSUED AND MOST OF THEM LIKE WE HAVE AN ISSUED A CITATION MORE THAN FIVE YEARS.

AND WE PROBABLY HAD THE MOST CALLS OUT OF ANY UM, AREA BUT AT LEAST 10 OF THOSE. NO 17 OF THOSE CALLS WERE SELF INITIATED BY OFFICERS WERE BEING PROACTIVE AND GOING OUT AND SEEING PEOPLE EITHER GETTING READY TO LIGHT FIREWORKS OR HAVE ALREADY DONE IT WHEN THEY WERE TOLD TO STOP, BUT THEY DIDN'T SEE WHO WAS LYING. THE FIREWORKS RIGHT SO THERE THAT'S ESSENTIALLY IF YOU HAD A PLACE TO COMPENSATE AND STORE YOU COULD HAVE BEEN MUCH MORE PROACTIVE AND CITATIONS WE COULD HAVE ISSUED. MAYBE 7 TO 10. INSTEAD OF JUST TWO. ALRIGHT VERY GOOD. I THINK IT'S A CREATIVE SOLUTION TO OUR STORAGE PROBLEM HERE. I'M STILL. SUPPORT HAVING FIREWORKS IN SOME DEGREE , SHAPE OR FORM, BUT THAT'S THE CURRENT RULE. THAT'S THE RULE OF THE COUNCIL. AND IF WE NEED TO GIVE YOU THE TOOLS TO ENFORCE IT, AND I THINK MORE COMMUNICATION WITH THE PUBLIC AS WELL ABOUT THE FIREWORKS ORDINANCE. MANY PEOPLE, UM I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS ON OUR WEBSITE WHERE THEY GOOGLED FIREWORKS, NORTHLAKE AND THEY HAD A 2019 POSTS COMING UP. THAT WAS SAYING IT IS LEGAL, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO LOOK AT AND SEE IF IT'S SHUT DOWN. WE'RE GETTING I MEAN, IT'S BEEN CHANGED FOUR TIMES IN THE LAST SINCE 2018 SO LITTLE BIT CONFUSION THERE ON THE PUBLIC SIDE TO SINCE LAST YEAR, CHIEF DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF HOW MANY FIREWORKS HAVE BEEN CONFISCATED IN THE TOWN OF NORTH LEAF FIREWORKS? WHAT HAVE BEEN CONFISCATED? NONE THAT I KNOW OF. THANK YOU. BUT THAT NONE IS PROBABLY BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T HAVE ANY POLICE TO KEEP THEM CORRECT. IS THERE ANY OTHER? SOLUTIONS FOR THIS BESIDES STORING THEM.

WE COULD ISSUE A CITATION FOR POSSESSIONS AND LET HIM KEEP THE FIREWORKS. BUT I MEAN, IT'S REALLY KIND OF DEFEATING THE PURPOSE. IF THEY'RE ILLEGAL TO POSSESS. LET'S SAY YOU CONFISCATE THEM FOR 30 DAYS THEY GO TO COURT. JUDGE HAS GIVEN BACK HIS FIREWORKS. BUT IT'S ILLEGAL TO POSSESS ANYWAY, RIGHT? THAT'S THE JUDGE HAS A DISCRETION HE CAN DO WHAT HE WANTS TO JUDGE DOESN'T WORK FOR US, AT LEAST FOR ME. HE WORKS FOR THE COUNCIL, MAYBE NOT.

DISTRICT JUDGE, BUT I'M. I GOT TO SAY THAT THIS ONE. THERE'S AN AWFUL LOT OF LAYERS TO THIS THE FIRST ONE IN FRONT OF ME. I DON'T LIKE SPENDING THE MONEY AND PUT IT AT THE SD. I DON'T LIKE THE SOLUTION. UM, BUT I UNDERSTAND. ALRIGHT I ACCEPT THE FACT THAT THIS SOLUTION YOU'VE PRESENTED IS PROBABLY THE MOST VIABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THE GOAL OF SATISFYING THE ORDINANCE. I'M LOOKING AT IT FROM THE POSSIBILITY OF FIXING THE ORDINANCE TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THIS SOLUTION. EILEEN TOWARDS KIND OF THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION AND MAYBE CHANGING POSSESSION TO BE NOT ILLEGAL IN NORTH LAKE, JUST IGNITION. AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS THAT IF WE CAN ENFORCE OUTSIDE THE LIMITS, I DON'T LIKE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO.

AND IF THAT SAVES US FROM HAVING THE STORM SAVES US FROM THE ISSUE OF THE RISK OF STORY IN AND I BELIEVE THERE'S MORE TO THIS THAN JUST THE CABINET. YOU ALSO NEED SOME LOCKERS IN THE VEHICLES. CORRECT. IF WE CAN FIND ROOM IN THE BEAGLES, THEY'RE PRETTY FULL ALREADY.

THEN HOW ARE YOU GOING TO POSSESS THEM IN ORDER TO TAKE HIM HERE? YOU'RE JUST GOING TO TAKE THEM DIRECTLY FROM THEIR CAR. SINCE THEY GET HIM TO TAKE THEM STRAIGHT TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. THEY'RE GOING TO STORM IN THE IN THE CORRIDOR. THEY GO STRAIGHT TO YOUR GOOD WITH THAT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, SO IT SOLVES THAT PROBLEM. UM, BUT THAT'S THAT'S RILING. COUNSELOR I'M LEANING TOWARDS MAKE THE TWO ORDINANCES MATCH AND IN THIS CASE, I WOULD SAY LET HIM KEEP THE FIREWORKS JUST ENFORCE THE NO IGNITION. WE'RE LOOKING FOR 100% COMPLIANCE. WE'RE NEVER GOING TO GET THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE THE OUTLIERS TO DO WHAT THEY WANT ANYWAY. SO I LIKE SIMPLE SOLUTIONS, AND I COME TO BE CONSISTENT, BUT THAT'S MY TWO CENTS ON THE PROBLEM WITH THAT

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IS FOR THE PEOPLE THAT WHOSE PROPERTIES BORDER E. T J HARVEST. PRETTY MUCH HUNG OUT TO DRY. PRETTY MUCH. AND WE HAD OFFICERS STAGED IN CERTAIN AREAS THAT WERE HIGH FREQUENCY OVER FROM THE FIRST TO THE FOURTH, AND I THINK WE REDUCED QUITE A BIT, BUT WE CAN'T BE OUT THERE.

ALL NIGHT LONG THAT WE HAVE TO ANSWER CALLS AND WHEN WE HAD EIGHT OFFICERS ON IT ONE TIME AND WE WERE ANSWERING THE CALLS THAT CAME UP, BUT THEY STILL WORK SPLIT UP FROM WHERE SOME OF FIREWORKS ARE GOING ON. SO. YEAH. WE'LL GET A COURT ORDER. WE'LL GET A COURT ORDER FROM THE FROM THE JUDGE, AND THEN WE CAN, WHETHER USUALLY HAVE DONE THE PAST. NOT HERE. BUT OTHER AGENCIES THAT TAKE US SOMEPLACE TO PUT THEM IN A 55 GALLON DRUMS. SOAK THEM IN WATER. LEAVE THEM FOR SEVEN OR EIGHT HOURS AND THEN JUST TOSS THEM. YEAH, NO. WHICH DO IT OURSELVES. OR HAVE A FIRE DEPARTMENT ASSISTANCE. MY ISSUE IS NOT FIREWORKS. I WOULDN'T CARE IF WE LET PEOPLE SHOOT FIREWORKS EVERY DAY. MY ISSUE IS PEOPLE NOT BEING SMART ENOUGH TO REALIZE THAT IT'S DRY AS IT CAN BE, AND WE DON'T NEED WILDFIRES. SO IF WE ANYBODY CAN FIGURE OUT A SOLUTION TO THAT, I'D BE HAPPY WITH IT. I'LL DO MY BEST. SO WE'VE I THINK WE'VE ALL WEIGHED IN THAT WE ALL WAY IN. WE DID. OKAY. ALRIGHT SO WE'VE ALL WAITED IN AND WE'RE ALL OVER THE MAP. SO NOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET FIGURE OUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO AS FAR AS DIRECTION HERE.

I'M LEANING TOWARDS THE CHANGE IN THE ORDINANCE TO NOT MAKE POSITION ILLEGAL. BUT THE IGNITION BUT I THINK I MAY BE THE ONLY ONE ON THAT. UM COUPLE OF YOU HAVE SAID YOU THINK THE SOLUTION IS APPROPRIATE. AND SO IT'S OPEN FOR YOUR MOTION TO GO ANY DIRECTION YOU WANT ON THIS, BUT WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET TO A CONSENSUS, AND I THINK WE'RE GOOD WITH THE CHIEF RE SATISFIED. THAT'S FINE. IS THERE ANY OTHER POSSIBLE USES FOR THIS CABINET OTHER THAN FIREWORKS, ANY OTHER NEEDS OF THE DEPARTMENT THAT THIS MIGHT SOLVE? SOMETIMES WE MIGHT GET, UM, ON A CASE WE MIGHT GET UP A PROPANE TANK OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT MIGHT BE EVIDENCE IN SOMETHING WE COULD USE THAT TO STORE THE SAME THING. 20 FLAMMABLE. CORRECT WE CAN'T TAKE ANYTHING FLAMMABLE, REALLY? EVEN BUTANE LIGHTERS. WE WON'T TAKE THEM INTO THE PROPERTY ROOM EITHER. SO THIS COULD SERVE THAT PURPOSE AS WELL. IF IT'S RELEVANT EVIDENCE. I'D LIKE TO SEE THE CASE THAT BUTANE LIGHTERS RELEVANT, BUT THAT'S BESIDE THE POINT. YOU'D BE SURPRISED. AND CHIEF I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS YOUR POLICY THAT YOU FEEL THE MOST COMFORTABLE WITH DOING THE MOST APPROPRIATE. I THINK IT WOULD BE A STEP THAT WE CAN DO TO. YOU KNOW IF YOU GUYS DECIDE THAT YOU DON'T WANT THE POSSESSION. YOU KNOW WHAT WE'LL KEEP DOING WHAT WE DO TO TRY TO QUELL THE FIREWORKS AS MUCH AS WE CAN. JUST FOR CLARIFICATION.

THIS WE'RE TRYING TO ENFORCE THE CURRENT POLICY. THIS IS COUNCIL'S POLICY AND, UM AS THE MAYOR SAID AT THE BEGINNING, THERE WAS A GAP IN THE ENFORCEMENT. SO THIS IS JUST A TOOL TO HELP US MEET YOUR POLICY AND THAT POLICY AS A MIRROR. MENTIONED IS UP FOR CHANGE. HAVE YOU DECIDED? AND I THINK EACH YEAR IT'S GOTTEN BETTER AND BETTER. I MEAN, I KNOW MR GAINES EXPERIENCED QUITE A BIT OF FIREWORKS BY HIS RESIDENTS. AS FAR AS THE NUMBER OF CALLS THEY'RE GOING DOWN ARE PROACTIVE APPROACH TO IT FOR GETTING MORE OFFICERS ACTUALLY ENGAGING PRIOR TO GETTING THE CALLS FOR THE FIREWORKS, SO THEY'RE ACTUALLY FINDING THEM BEFORE WE GET THE CALLS, SO I THINK IT'S WERE STEADILY GETTING TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE. IT JUST TAKES TIME TO GET THERE. MAYOR MASS SUGGESTS THAT, UM THERE'S NO NEED TO SPEND THE MONEY IF WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE THE POLICY NUMBER ONE UM, IF WE'RE GOING TO STICK WITH POLICY, WE NEED TO ENFORCE OUR LAWS AND TAKE CARE OF THIS. SO THE NEXT MAJOR FIREWORKS IS NEW YEAR'S JANUARY.

TIMEFRAME SO IF WE'RE GOINGO POSTPONED THIS OR ANYTHING ELSE WE NEED TO KNOW IF WE SHOULD TAKE INITIATIVE TO LOOK AT. DO YOU WANT TO HAVE SOMETHING PRESENTED ANOTHER COUNCIL MEETING? SO GOOD POINT. I AGREE WITH YOU. WE HAVE TO GO ONE OF THE TWO DIRECTIONS, NOT NO DECISION. WE CAN'T LEAVE A SITUATION WHERE STAFF ARE STUCK WITH AN ORDINANCE THEY CAN ENFORCE. THEY NEED THE TOOLS TO DO IT. THAT'S A POLICY OF OURS. WE ALWAYS PUT THEM IN THE FIELD OF THE TOOLS I NEED. THIS IS THE TOOL THEY NEED TO FALL OUT TO FOLLOW OUT THE COUNCIL'S CHOICE.

THAT'S FINE WITH ME. UM IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION WANNA GO IF WE WANT TO CHANGE THE ORDINANCE, THEN I FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD JUST CALL THAT FOR AN ACTION ITEM. AT A FUTURE MEETING. EITHER CALL THE PURCHASE OR CALL THE CHANGE IN THE ORDINANCE, BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU TO

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SORT OF VERBALIZE HERE. WHAT DIRECTION DO YOU WANT TO GO? SO WE CAN GIVE STAFF A CHOICE TO COME BACK TO US WITH? I AGREE THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE ORDINANCE. I CONCUR. LET'S LOOK AT THE ORDINANCE FIRST. SEE WHAT OPTIONS WE HAVE? WHAT? GET INPUT FROM CHIEF AND FIRE. FROM COUNCIL AS A WHOLE AND SEE IF THERE SHOULD BE A POLICY DIRECTION, CHANGE OR NOT, OR JUST A MODIFICATION. IT COULD GO ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM. BUT BEFORE SPENDING $2500, BUT LIKE I SAID, WE'RE NOT GOING TO CHANGE THE POLICY. THIS COMES RIGHT BACK TO THE TABLE, AND WE DEFINITELY NEED DIFFERENT ENFORCEMENT. I'M FINE WITH THAT. AS WELL.

ALRIGHT SO I'M COUNTING RIGHT WE HAD FORWARDED. TAKE A LOOK AT THE ORDINANCE ONE TO GO AHEAD WITH CABINET DID YOU WANT TO WEIGH IN? I'D GO AHEAD WITH THE CABINET. OKAY BUT WE'RE GONNA END UP VOTING ON IT AGAIN. IT'S PRETTY OBVIOUS. OKAY? SO LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE FUTURE.

MEETING. ABOUT THE ORDINANCE AND SEEING IF WE CAN CRAFT THE ORDINANCE IN SUCH A WAY THAT THEY HAVE A SOLUTION. FOR POSSESSION. ONE THING ABOUT THE CURRENT ORDINANCE, SO AS IT'S WRITTEN TODAY, POSSESSION HAS TO BE COUPLED WITH THE INTENT TO DISCHARGE TO BE SO THAT'S THAT'S SORT OF THE FIRST SUBSECTION A OF YOUR PROHIBITION. HE IS THE ONE ACTUALLY IGNITING IT, AND THAT'S WHERE YOU STAND OUTSIDE YOUR LIMIT. SO. I MEAN, WE HAVE TO HAVE EVIDENCE OF AN INTENT TO IGNITE TOO. TO CONFISCATE THEM UNDER YOUR CURRENT ORDINANCE TO MAKE A TRAFFIC STOP THAT FIREWORKS SEES ANOTHER CAR, RIGHT? RIGHT? YEAH. SO IT'S NOT JUST A STRAIGHT POSSESSION QUESTION AS IT'S WRITTEN RIGHT NOW. YOU HAVE. YEAH, IT'S COUPLED WITH THAT INTENT TO IGNORE IT, CLARIFY MY INTENTIONS , I WOULD THAT DIDN'T REALLY WANT TO PREEMPT THE DISCUSSION A LOT. BUT MY HOPE IS THAT WE CAN GET TO A POINT WHERE POSSESSION REMAINS WITH PERSON BECAUSE WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE JUST RESIDENTS POSSESSING THESE. A TRAFFIC STOP IN THEIR CARRY EM.

THEY'RE GOING SOMEWHERE WHERE THEY'RE ALLOWED TO USE THEM GOING OUT IN THE COUNTY THEN SO BE IT. LET HIM PASS THROUGH THE TOWN. UM AND THAT'S THE WAY IT'S CURRENTLY WRITTEN. OKAY? ALRIGHT, BUT WITHIN THE TOWN LIMITS CAN I NOT TAKE THEM HOME AND THEN TAKE THEM ONTO SOMEWHERE? THEY MAY HAVE ANOTHER PROPERTY. THIS IS A IF SOMEONE'S UM IT'S APPARENT TO THE OFFICER THAT THERE ABOUT THE FIRE THEM GOT THEM UNPACKED. THEY'VE GOT THE LIGHTER. THEY'VE GOT EVERYTHING SET UP. THEY GOT THE LAWN CHAIRS. THE OFFICER SAYS HE DIDN'T CATCH HIM IN THE ACT SO HE CAN'T GET THEM FOR IGNITION, BUT HE SEES IT ALL OUT. THIS GIVES THEM A TOOL TO UM TAKE THE FIREWORKS AND. HAVE A PLACE TO PUT THEM, SO YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF A RATCHET IF YOU WILL. VERSUS JUST SAYING DON'T DO THAT AND LEAVING. IF WE HAVE REASONABLE SUSPICION THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE SHOOTING THEM OFF AND WE CAN TAKE POSSESSION. I WAS HOPING WE COULD AVOID THE TAKE POSSESSION PART AND HAVING TO THE DESTRUCTION AND THE WHOLE WHOLE EVIDENCE. SITUATION JUST DRIVES ME BANANAS BECAUSE OF HOW MUCH IT COSTS AND HOW MUCH WE HAVE TO STORE EVERYTHING FROM DRUGS AND WEAPONS AND HOW LONG WE HAVE TO KEEP THEM AND THAT WHOLE PROCESS JUST AS A DRAIN ON RESOURCES, AND I WAS HOPING WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO GO INTO HOLDING THINGS AND RELEASING THINGS. IT'S JUST TOO MUCH PAPERWORK. I WANT OFFICERS IN THE FIELD. TAKING CARE OF BIG ISSUES AND YES, LIGHTING RECKLESSLY IS A BIG ISSUE, BUT DO YOU SORT OF SOLVED HALF OF WHAT I WAS AFTER. SO COUNCIL. I PUT IT BACK TO YOU, UM YOU KNOW? THEY BASICALLY FIXED THE POSSESSION PROBLEM ALLOWING PEOPLE TO PASS THROUGH . SO IF THIS IS ACTUALLY AN ACT OF LAUNCHING THEM OR SETTING HIM UP TO BE LAUNCHED WITHIN THE TOWN LIMITS WHERE THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED. DO YOU WANT TO PROVIDE A SOLUTION FOR THE POLICE TO BE ABLE TO TAKE IT OR DO YOU WANT TO LEAVE THEM IN THE POSSESSION OF THE PERSON WHO IS TRYING TO LAUNCH THEM? DOES THAT CHANGE YOUR CONSIDERATION? I'M LOOKING THE ORDINANCE. YEAH, I ONE THING I SEE ABOUT THIS WITH SOME OF THE SIZE OF THE SHOWS THAT I'VE SEEN AROUND THESE PARTS IS IF THE ORDINANCE DOES NOT CHANGE ONE, THIS CABINET NOWHERE NEAR BIG ENOUGH IF YOU CATCH JUST TO LANDOWNERS, RIGHT? UM BUT. I MEAN TONIGHT. IF YOU'RE READY, I'D MAKE A MOTION. WE JUST TABLE THIS UNTIL WE LOOK AT THE ORDINANCE PRIOR TO DECEMBER.

OKAY DID YOU JUST MAKE A MOTION ? WELL THIS IS JUST DIRECTION. SORRY THIS JUST DIRECTION SO

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JUST GIVE US YOUR CONSENSUS DIRECTION, THEN THAT I WOULD PUT FORWARD. OKAY SO YOU STILL WANT TO LOOK AT AN ORDINANCE LIKE PART OF THE PROBLEM IS WHEN YOU HEAR FIREWORKS. PEOPLE ARE ASSUMING IT'S ONE OR TWO DADS AND THEIR KIDS LAUNCHING FIREWORKS THAT THAT'S NOT THE CASE. WE HAVE PEOPLE ON SOCIAL MEDIA BRAGGING. THEY SPEND $5000 ON FIREWORKS LAUNCHING BEHIND OUR PROPERTIES. THAT'S THE PROBLEM. IT'S NOT TWO DADS AND THEIR KIDS, BUT SOME FIRECRACKERS AND SPARKLERS. THESE ARE FULL BLOWN SHOWS. AND THAT'S WHAT'S BOTHERING THE RESIDENCE WHERE I LIVE THAT HAVE ANIMALS AND PASTURES. THE WE'RE OR BACK FENCES HARVEST. AND THAT'S WHERE THE PROBLEM IS COMING FROM. WHAT I'M HEARING TONIGHT IS THERE'S NOTHING THING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT. THAT'S INSANE. I MEAN, I GOT CRACKS IN MY PASTURE. YOU CAN PUT MY FOOT INTO THAT'S HOW DRY IT IS. WE STILL HAVE THE ISSUE EVERY JULY. SAME PROBLEM. LIKE I SAID, THIS IS A COUPLE OF DADS AND HER KIDS, NOT A BIG DEAL, BUT IT'S NOT THAT IT'S NOT QUAINT LITTLE BEAVER CLEAVER TOWN. PEOPLE PUTTING ON MAJOR SHOWS. THAT'S WHAT? WE'RE TRYING TO STOP NOT NO FAMILY OUTINGS. POINT WELL TAKEN. I CONCUR. WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH. COMPLIANCE WITH THE RULE AND RECKLESSNESS. THAT'S DEFINITELY THE CASE WHETHER WE ALLOW THEM OR NOT.

THERE'S STILL A PROBLEM WITH RECKLESSNESS, EVEN WHEN THEY ARE ALLOWED. AND THEY WERE ALLOWED IN THE PAST. THAT THAT'S STILL NOT APPROPRIATE TO BE TRESPASSING AND STILL NOT APPROPRIATE TO BE LAUNCHING. TOO BIG A SHOW IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE LAND FOR IT, THAT'S YOUR OWN LAND. ALRIGHT, I CONCUR AND PUTTING YOUR PROPERTY AT RISK AND OTHERS PROPERTY AT RISK ON SOME OF THESE ROADS AND THIS CONDITIONS. ABSOLUTELY. I HEAR YOU. I WANT TO MAKE SURE LIKE THE MAYOR PRO TEM SAID, AS A SOLUTION GOING TO WORK NUMBER TWO. I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE POSSESSION PASSING THROUGH. I THINK THEY'VE RESOLVED THAT FOR ME. SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT WE WOULD DO WITH THE ORDINANCE. AT THIS POINT. DO YOU HAVE ANY ADVICE AS TO WHAT WE WOULD DO WITH IT? IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ALLOWING VERSUS THIS, ALLOWING THAT'S A DIFFERENT CONVERSATION THAN IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWEAKING IT. SOUNDS TO ME LIKE THEY HAVE THE COORDINATES THEY NEED. THEY NEED A SOLUTION TO DEAL WITH. THE LARGER PROBLEM. SO DOES THAT CHANGE YOUR DIRECTION FOR THE FOR THE STAFF? ARE YOU ASKING A QUESTION OF WHAT IS A SUGGESTION FOR THE ORDINANCE TO LOOK AT LATER WE NEED WE NEED TO GIVE STAFF A DIRECTION OF WHAT TO COME BACK TO US WITH. THEY CAN GO. THEY CAN GO PURCHASE THIS CABINET. THEY HAVE THE PURCHASING AUTHORITY FOR US. THEY DON'T NEED TO COME BACK ON THIS. IF YOU TELL THEM GO BY A CABINET, THEN WE'RE DONE WITH THE CONVERSATION. IF YOU SAY BRING BACK THE ORDINANCE THAN THE ORDINANCES ON THE TABLE FOR ANY CHANGES, WE MIGHT WANT TO MAKE. WHAT DO WE HAVE CHANGES THAT WE NEED TO MAKE AT THIS POINT, OR DO YOU WANT THE CABINET? THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR.

ONE PASSING THROUGH CHANGE. WELL WHAT THEY SAID, IS THAT IT'S ALREADY IN PLACE. SO THERE THERE . THEY ALREADY HAVE THAT POSSIBILITY. WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR CONFISCATION IS WHEN SOMEBODY IS IN THE ACT OF LAUNCHING SO THE SITUATION YOU DESCRIBED UP ON THE HILL. THAT THEY'RE READY TO TAKE AND DO THAT. AND FOLLOW THROUGH ON IT, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO NEED A PLACE TO PUT IT. SO WHERE DO YOU WANT TO GO? I NEED FOUR COUNCILORS TO AGREE ON GIVING DIRECTION TO STAFF SO YOU CAN MOVE ON. I DON'T CARE ABOUT CONFISCATING SOMEONE'S FIREWORKS . I CARE ABOUT PEOPLE WHO PUT OTHERS AT RISK ABOUT. USING FIREWORKS ON DRY DAYS WHEN THEY MIGHT SIT SOMEONE'S PASTURE ON FIRE. AND I SHARE THAT CONCERN. MR DOCTOR SESSIONS. ONE THING I'D LIKE TO LOOK AT THE ORDINANCE. I THINK WE CAN SKIPPED OVER LAST TIME IS POSSIBLY A PERMANENT BASED SYSTEM WHERE THE RULES ARE SHARED. IT MUST BE AGREED TO AND SIGNED TO OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT. THAT'S JUST A VERY GENERALIZED TERM OF PERMIT BASED SYSTEM, BUT I THINK THERE MAY BE SAMARITAN THAT ESPECIALLY FOR SOME OF THESE FOLKS WHO WANT TO HAVE THOSE LARGER SHOWS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I DON'T KNOW HOW RISK COUNCIL FIELDS BUT IT MIGHT BE A GOOD COMPROMISE THAT EXISTS NOW YOU HAVE THAT AVAILABILITY. TO WORK IN PRIVATE DISPLAY SECTION IN YOUR ORDINANCE WHERE YOU GOTTA HAVE INSURANCE. YOU GOTTA COME. OKAY? I DON'T RECALL DISCUSSING THAT. AND ANY WAS IN THE IT WAS IN THE PRE 2018 ORDINANCE. OKAY, SO NEVER. IT NEVER REALLY CHANGED RIGHT? IT WAS JUST THE INDIVIDUAL FIREWORKS. UM. KIND OF, BUT THERE IS A PERMITTING PROCESS FOR DISPLAYS PUBLICLY IN PRIVATE. OKAY MAYBE WE SHOULD STUDY THAT AND GET BACK TO THAT. I DON'T KNOW. ALRIGHT. SO HERE'S WHAT I PROPOSE. IF YOU HAVE

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SOMETHING, TAKE A LOOK AT THE ORDINANCE. WE'LL GO BACK AND I'LL READ IT FOR OURSELVES IF YOU WOULD WISH TO BRING THIS ITEM BACK FOR DISCUSSION. SUBMITTED THE SAME WAY TO STAFF THE WAY WE DO ON ANYTHING ELSE IF YOU WANT TO SPONSOR BRINGING AN ITEM BACK SUBMITTED TO THEM.

DON'T OBVIOUSLY REMEMBER THE RULES WILL TALK TO EACH OTHER AND DON'T SEND ANYTHING TO EACH OTHER. BUT IF YOU WISH TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON IT SENT TO STAFF, IT WILL NEED A SECOND. YOU CAN PUT IT ON THE AGENDA. IF YOU DON'T FIND ANYTHING THAT YOU NEED TO CHANGE, THEN YOU STILL WE STILL HAVE TO DECIDE IF YOU'RE GOING TO SEND YOU KNOW, I'M A DIRECTION ON THIS CABINET.

I AGREE. IF THERE'S NO CHANGE, WE NEED THE CABINET. I MEAN, THAT'S PRETTY CLEAR. YOU DON'T HEAR FROM US. THE NEXT TWO WEEKS , ASKING FOR A BRIEFING ITEM TO FOLLOW UP ON THIS AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CABIN. WE'LL EMAIL YOU THE FIREWORKS ORDINANCE THREE YEAR REVIEW, OKAY? DOES THAT WORK FOR EVERYBODY ELSE? OKAY. SPEAK IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS OF CULTURE PIECE, OKAY? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. DOES THAT WORK? LET'S MOVE ON. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. DALE

[3.C. Briefing - Dale Earnhardt Northbound lanes design approvaland Road Assessment fees]

EARNHARDT. NORTHBOUND LANES REDESIGN. AND APPROVAL. GO AHEAD. SO THIS IS THE MAP OF THE UM. THE LANES. THE SOUTH BOUND LANES EXIST. THE NORTH BONG LANES ON THE EAST SIDE. DO NOT.

UM WE JUST HAD THE GROUNDBREAKING THIS MORNING FOR THE HOTEL CONFERENCE CENTER, WHICH IS RIGHT UNDER WHERE IT SAYS NORTHPORT DRIVE. THIS IS GOING TO BE ONE OF OUR FRONT ENTRANCES. SO WE'D LIKE TO GET THIS PROJECT MOVING, UM SO WE DO HAVE WE HAVE AN EXTRA RIGHT OF WAY NOT TO PROPERTIES AND WE THAT IS OUR THAT'S OUR NEXT OR THE PREREQUISITES STEP TO GET THIS NEXT PART IN AH TO DO THE ROAD ASSESSMENT WE NEED YOU ADOPTED A POLICY. NOW WE NEED TO DESIGN THE GET COST ESTIMATES AND THEN WE CAN ASSESS THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY SO HER THE STATUTE AND THE TRANSPORTATION CODE, WE CAN ASSESS UP TO 90% OF THE ROADWAY IMPROVEMENT. IF IT'S A KURBAN GUTTER, WE CAN GO UP TO 100. UM AND, UM. WE CAN GET A MAJORITY OF THIS BACK FROM THESE PROPERTY OWNERS. WE JUST DID A ROUGH ESTIMATE. THIS IS HIS ESTIMATE ONLY, BUT IF WE BASED IT ON THE ACREAGE OF THE ADJOINING PROPERTY OWNERS, THIS WOULD BE THEIR SHARE OF THE ROAD PROJECT. TO GET THIS IN. NONE OF THOSE PROPERTIES ARE IN THE TOWN OF NORTH LAKE. NONE OF THEM PAY PROPERTY TAXES, SO THIS WOULD BE A WAY TO ASSESS THEM FOR THAT ROAD THAT WOULD BENEFIT THEM AND IMPROVE THEIR FRONTAGE HERE. UM AND THEN, UM, WE RECOMMENDING QUID ITTY, FORMERLY JONES AND CARTER TO DO THE DESIGN. WE HAVE NO ISSUE WITH HALF ASSOCIATES. I DO A GREAT JOB FOR US. THEY'RE DOING A LOT OF WORK FOR US AND HALF WILL STILL BE INVOLVED IN A REVIEW PROCESS OF THIS. THAT ITEM IS LATER ON YOUR CONSENT AGENDA. BUT, UM THIS ALSO, UM.

AS PART OF OUR EFFORTS TO CONTROL DEVELOPMENT IN THE E. T J WITH A LOSS OF AUTHORITY THAT'S BEEN HANDED DOWN FROM THE LEGISLATURE. THIS ALSO ALLOWS US ANOTHER INCENTIVE TO POTENTIALLY HAVE THESE PROPERTY OWNERS ANNEX INTO THE TOWN. YOU HAVE THE AUTHORITY ONCE WE GET TO THAT POINT TO WAIVE THESE FEES IF YOU CHOOSE BECAUSE NOW THEY'LL BE PAYING PROPERTY TAXES AND WE CAN USE THAT TO FINANCE THIS. THIS PROJECT. QUICK QUESTION. I MIGHT BE ABLE TO USE TO THIS HERE, BUT $200,000 FOR LESS THAN A MILE OF ROAD DESIGN. SOUNDS CRAZY. IS THAT IT'S TYPICAL. IT'S A LITTLE ON THE HIGH SIDE THERE IS A THERE IS A LARGER BECAUSE OF THE ROAD ASSESSMENT FEE AND THE NOTIFICATIONS. AND THERE IS A LARGER CONTINGENCY IN THIS CONTRACT FOR THAT, BECAUSE OF THE BECAUSE OF THE TIMELINE IN THE BACK AND FORTH WITH WITH THESE PROPERTY OWNERS, SO THAT'S A REALLY YOU ARE. YOU'RE CORRECT ASSETS IN QUESTION, SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE INVOLVED BECAUSE OF THE ROAD ASSESSMENT FEE. BUT WE'LL GET WE'LL GET 90% OF THIS BACK. HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE ROAD ASSESSMENT FEES. THEY SEEM TO BE BASED ON ACREAGE, NOT ON FRONTAGE. CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME WHY THEY WOULD BE BASED ON ACREAGE RESIDENT FRONTAGE OF THE ROAD. UH THEY'RE ROUGHLY THE.

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THE SAME WE COULD USE. UH, WE COULD USE FRONTAGE ACREAGE. SEEM TO BE A FAIRER WAY TO DO THAT, BECAUSE THE ACREAGE ADDS UP TO THE DENSITY OR THE AMOUNT OF DEVELOPMENT YOU COULD PUT ON THERE. THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC YOU'RE PUTTING ON TO THIS ONTO OUR ROAD ONTO THEIR ROAD, SO I THINK THE NUMBERS WOULD WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY THE SAME IF WE USE FRONTAGE AND BE CLOSE PROPORTIONAL WITH ONE ISSUE THAT THERE IS A SMALL UM. SITE WHERE THERE IS A. TOWER SO AMERICAN TOWER AMERICA TOWER. HAS SOME OF THAT FRONTAGE THERE PROVIDING NO TRAFFIC, BUT AND THEY HAVE A VERY SMALL FOOTPRINT, BUT THE PROPERTY BEHIND THEM HAS A VERY LARGE FOOTPRINT, AND HIS HAS QUITE A BIG OPERATION. SO THEY'RE PUTTING QUITE A BIT OF TRAFFIC ON THERE. SO ACREAGE IS A MECHANISM FRONTAGE IS A MECHANISM. THERE'S POSSIBLY SOME OTHER WHICH WE COULD WE COULD POTENTIALLY DO. EMPLOYEE COUNT TRAFFIC COUNT. THERE'S A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT WAYS TO DO THIS.

WE'RE STAFFS OPEN TO WHATEVER DIRECTION AND THAT 90% IS THE MAXIMUM COUNCIL DIRECTION WE CAN GO. WE CAN GO BELOW THAT IF YOU SO CHOOSE. YEAH I'D LIKE TO LOOK AT A COUPLE DIFFERENT WAYS OF APPROACHING THIS. I DON'T WANT TO JUMP TO CALCULATIONS YET APPRECIATE YOUR MODELING THAT ONE. BUT I'D LIKE TO STEP BACK FROM THAT FOR A SECOND. IF YOU COULD GIVE US FRONTAGE BY PROPERTY. EVALUATION. FROM A TAX VALUE STANDPOINT, SOME OF THE YOU KNOW, SOME OF THEM HAVE MUCH MORE DENSE DEVELOPMENT ON IT WITH MUCH MORE VALUE THAT THEY'RE CREATING. STORAGE HAS A LOT MORE TRAFFIC THAN THE TOWER OR MAYBE A BUSINESS, SO I'D LIKE TO SEE THOSE TWO FRONTAGE VALUE AND ACREAGE. YOU'VE GOT ACREAGE. YOU'D LIKE TO SEE THE OTHER TWO. AND THEN I ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE IF YOU COULD SEND US SOME INFORMATION ON PROPORTIONAL SHARE IF THIS WAS IN THE TOWN, AND THEY WERE DEVELOPING CAN YOU GIVE US AN IDEA OF WHAT WOULD IT BE 100% OR WHETHER IT BE A PROPORTIONAL SHARE? THAT'S A POLICY DECISION CURRENTLY AND WHAT I HEARD FROM A COUNCIL WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS. IF YOU'RE IN THE TOWN, YOU WOULDN'T YOU WOULDN'T BE A SO ASSESSED A ROAD ASSESSMENT FEE. BECAUSE YOU'RE ALREADY PAYING PROPERTY TAXES, AND THAT'S HOW WE THAT'S WHAT WE USE PRIMARILY FOR ROAD PROJECTS , SO THIS IS KIND OF AN EITHER OR ROAD. FEES FOR PROJECTS, NOT ROAD IMPACT FEES. THESE ARE ROAD ASSESSMENT FEES, AND IT'S IT CAN BE CONFUSING ROAD IMPACT FEES ARE A ONE TIME WELL, THIS IS ONE TIME AS WELL. BUT THIS IS AT THE DEVELOPMENT ROAD ASSESSMENT CAN BE FOR AN EXISTING BUSINESS, CORRECT, BUT WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR IS THE EQUITIES. AS IF THEY WERE IN THE TOWN. WHAT WOULD IT LOOK LIKE? ARE WE GOING WAY ABOVE OR WE WAY BELOW? WHERE WHERE IS THE ROAD IMPACT FEES THAT SOMEONE WOULD WHO WOULD BE DEVELOPING ON THIS PROPERTY IN THE TOWN WHERE THEY COMPARED TO ROAD IMPACT FEES OF THEIR NEW DEVELOPMENT? OKAY. I'D LIKE TO SEE A LITTLE BIT OF THAT. NOT LOOKING FOR 100 HOURS OF ANALYSIS, BUT IF YOU CAN GET US DIRECTION ALSO UNDERSTAND WHERE WE WHERE THOSE COMPARISONS LIE. THAT'D BE HELPFUL. AND I COULD IF YOU GO BACK TO THE CHART REAL QUICK WITH THE FEES ON THERE. I DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT H STREET CATTLE, BUT I CAN SEE SOMEBODY REALLY BALKING AT PAYING OVER A QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS. IT'S NOT A CATTLE OPERATION ELECTRICAL COMPANY. CONTRACTOR ALRIGHT, BUT THERE'S JUST THE NAME OF THE PROPERTY OWNERSHIP. ANY BUSINESS ANYTHING LIKE THAT . I AGREE THAT THEY HAVE TO PAY FOR THE ROADWAY IN SOME WAY, SHAPE OR FORM. HOW ENFORCEABLE IS THIS? ACTUALLY, I MEAN, WHAT DO YOU SAY IF WE AGREE TO DO THIS AND MAKE THE ROAD GO THROUGH AND COLLECT THE FUNDS. I MEAN, IF SOMEBODY DROVE BY MY HOUSE, I KNOW IT DOESN'T APPLY DREW, BUT THERE'S SOMEBODY DROVE BY MY HOUSE AND SAID, OH, WELL, YOU'RE GOING TO PAY $50,000 TO IMPROVE THE ROAD IN FRONT OF YOUR PLACE. I'D BE LIKE HELL, NO. AND SO HOW DOES THAT WORK? WELL FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE, IT IS ENFORCEABLE. SO LONG AS WE DOT OUR I'S AND CROSS OUR T S ON THE PROCEDURE. IMPLEMENTING THE POLICY HOLDING THE HEARINGS, YOU KNOW, GIVING THEM THEIR APPEAL. TIME AND ALL OF THAT. THE PROCESSES EXIST, AND IT'S BEEN UPHELD IN COURTS. UM YOU KNOW, WHEN WE WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE POLICY WE TALKED ABOUT DIFFERENCES IN THIS WAS ONE IDEA FOR, UM, ASSESSING PEOPLE THAT ARE USING YOUR INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT THEY'RE LOCATED OUTSIDE TOWN LIMITS. UM THE PROCESS IS IT DOESN'T MAKE IT DOESN'T DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN IN LIMITS VERSUS OUTSIDE LIMITS. YOU GUYS

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HAVE SELF IMPOSED. WE'RE ONLY GONNA DO THIS OUTSIDE TOWN LIMITS, BECAUSE, UM, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE POLICY DECISION. YOU YOU CAME UP WITH. BUT FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE, WE CAN DEFEND IT EITHER WAY, UM, BUT I COULD FORESEE SOMEBODY OUTSIDE TOWN LIMITS, SAYING NO AND TRYING TO MOUNT A DEFENSE CHALLENGE BASED ON ON THAT ISSUE. UM, BUT I THINK WE CAN DEFEND IT EITHER WAY. AND OF COURSE, THEY WOULD ALWAYS HAVE THE OPTION AND THEY WOULD PROBABLY BE PRESENTED WITH THIS OPTION. I WOULD ASSUME YOU ALWAYS HAVE THE CHOICE OF COMING INTO. WE'VE ALREADY OFFERED THIS TO SOME OF THESE PROPERTY OWNERS. BECAUSE THAT'S A STRATEGIC GOAL OF THE COUNCIL, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT TOWN STAFF DOES AS WE TRY TO ALIGN OUR ACTIVITIES TO YOUR GOALS. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THE OPERATION OF THE BUSINESS AS WELL. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER FEEDBACK AT THIS TIME. ALRIGHT WE'RE LOOKING FOR A LITTLE MORE INFO. APPRECIATE IT. ALRIGHT IT IS 6 21. PM AND WE'RE GONNA OPEN PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME.

[4. PUBLIC INPUT]

ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK? WE HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK ON ANY TOPIC. THEY WISH I DON'T HAVE ANY CARDS SUBMITTED TO ME YET, BUT SOMEONE WANTS TO WEIGH THAT HE MAY HAVE YES, MA'AM.

GOOD EVENING, MARY COUNCIL. CONGRATULATIONS MR FOWLER. NOW COUNCIL MEMBER, FOWLER. UM, THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU. I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS WITH REGARD TO THE FIREWORKS ORDINANCE. WHY DON'T YOU WHAT DOESN'T COUNCIL COME UP WITH A FORMULA? GIVE FIREWORKS BACK TO THE PEOPLE THEN COME UP WITH A FORMULA YOURSELF. DON'T COUNT ON THE COUNTY TO TELL YOU WHETHER OR NOT IT'S A BURN DAY, COME UP WITH A FORMULA AND DETERMINE THE COUNCIL MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL MEETING PRIOR TO JULY, 4TH AND THE FIRST OF JANUARY DETERMINE YOURSELF WHETHER OR NOT IT'S A QUOTE, BURN DAY OR FIREWORKS DAY DETERMINE WHETHER YOU KNOW THE LAND IS TOO DRY OR WHATEVER IS GOING ON SO THAT YOU YOU CAN HAVE CONTROL OVER THAT AND NOT COUNT ON THE COUNTY TO DO THAT, WHICH FAILED MISERABLY LAST YEAR. ANYWAY. THE SECOND THING I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IS ADAM. NUMBER SIX E, WHICH IS THE PURCHASE OF A VEHICLE AND I KNOW A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO I WAS ON COUNCIL AND WE PASSED THIS BY BOARD. THIS COOPERATIVE BUYING AGREEMENT. AND I LOOKED AT THE PRICE OF THIS. UH, THIS CHEVY SILVERADO 1500 PICKUP MADE A COUPLE OF CALLS CALLED OVER JAMES WOOD, WHICH IS A KIND OF A STALWART IN THIS, UH IN OUR AREA , AND THEY CAN DO THAT SAME TRUCK FOR ABOUT 43,000. AND SO I HAVE THE PRINT OUT RIGHT HERE THAT I'M HAPPY TO SEND TO THE REST OF COUNCIL QUOTED ONE THAT WAS ACTUALLY ON ON THE AT THE DEALERSHIP. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE WAS ONE YOUR TRUCK IS A CREW CAB AND THIS ONE'S A DOUBLE CAB.

THEY SAID THEY COULD PROBABLY FIND THAT ONE BUT THIS QUOTE WAS 43,001 83 09 VERSUS YOUR 51 3 20. I THINK. I MEAN, YOU. IN THE COUNCIL PACKET. THERE'S $400 IN FEES AND I THINK OF $595 DELIVERY FEE FROM CALDWELL COUNTRY CHEVROLET, WHICH IS NO DOWN SOUTH TO HEAR ABOUT THREE HOURS, SO I JUST THOUGHT IF WE PUT OUR MONEY INTO LOCAL BUSINESSES MIGHT BE BETTER OFF AND MAYBE IT'S TIME TO REASSESS WHETHER OR NOT THE BIBLE WORD IS A IS A GOOD DEAL FOR THE TOWN.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK TONIGHT? ALRIGHT 6. 24 PM WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING PUBLIC COMMENT. ALRIGHT COUNCIL. LET'S GET TO OUR CONSENT ITEMS TONIGHT

[5. CONSENT ITEMS]

WE HAVE THE TOWN COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES FROM JULY. 27TH WE HAVE RESOLUTION APPROVING THE TOWN MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH QUITTING FOR THE DESIGN OF THE NORTHBOUND LANES, AND WE HAVE A RESOLUTION SUSPENDING THE SEPTEMBER EFFECTIVE DATE OF COAST SERVICE REQUESTED RATE CHANGE ARE ALL THOSE UP FOR CONSIDERATION AS A PULL ITEM B OR TABLE ITEM B. UNTIL WE DO YOU GET ALL YOUR DATA THAT YOU CAN ANALYZE. UM, I ACTUALLY WANTED TO ASK ABOUT IT. UM, SO I DO WANT TO PULL IT. BUT I WANT TO PULL IT FOR CONSIDERATION AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT. SO A AND SEE HER UP. IS THERE A MOTION FOR N C. MOTION TO APPROVE. 2ND 2ND FROM MAYOR PRO TEM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE AYE, ANY OPPOSED? OKAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ITEM B QUALITY

[5.B. Consider a Resoluon of the Town of Northlake, Texas, approving and authorizing the Town Manager to execute a contract with Quiddity Engineering LLC., for design of Dale Earnhardt Northbound Lanes, in an amount not to exceed $202,360]

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ENGINEERING. MY QUESTION TO YOU IS I WANTED A LITTLE BIT OF FLAVOR ON HOW WE SELECTED QUID ITTY. WE, UM. WE DON'T HAVE A NUMBER OF RELATIONSHIPS WITH ENGINEERING FIRMS. OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE AN ONGOING ONE WITH HALF WE HAVE FIRMS THAT WE WORK THROUGH THAT WE KNOW THROUGH TEXT DOT WE KNOW FIRMS THAT UM, WORK WITH MAJOR DEVELOPMENTS IN THE AREA. THE AREA AND SO WE. HAVE CONVERSATIONS. WE'VE USED MEAL AND SCHAEFER BEFORE WE'VE USED PARTICULAR COKE. UM SO. THIS IS JUST ONE OF THE ENGINEERING FIRMS WERE AWARE OF. WE'VE SEEN THEIR WORK WE'VE SEEN THERE. THE WORK PRODUCT AND BELIEVE THAT THEY'RE A EQUALITY PROVIDER FOR OF ENGINEERING SERVICES. DO THEY HAVE ANY SPECIALTY OR JUST TRYING TO GET AN IDEA OF ARE WE KEEPING A SMALL RELATIONSHIP WITH MANY FIRMS TO KEEP THE DOOR OPEN? ARE WE DID WE SELECT THEM BECAUSE OF SOME SPECIFIC KNOWLEDGE THEY HAVE OR RELATIONSHIP OR THEY BETTER AT SMALL PROJECTS. BIG PROJECTS. IS THERE ANY CRITERIA AT ALL? WHERE WE WHERE WE LANDED ON THIS ONE. THEY'RE THEY'RE LARGE FIRM.

THEY'RE CAPABLE OF MANY DIFFERENT PROJECTS. UM, WE DO STRIVE TO KEEP RELATIONSHIPS WITH A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT FIRMS AGAIN. UM HALF HAS BEEN A GREAT ENGINEERING FIRM FOR US, AND THEY HAVE QUITE A BIT OF PROJECTS THAT THEY'RE DOING WITH US. BUT WE DO OCCASIONALLY. WE WILL. FOR OTHER PROJECTS, NOT NECESSARILY SMALLER PROJECTS. THIS IS A SMALLER PROJECT. WE WILL WE WILL ENGAGE ANOTHER FIRM JUST TO KEEP COMMUNICATION OPEN. KEEP KNOWLEDGE OF THE MARKET.

KEEP KEEP OPTIONS OPEN. IF HEAVEN FORBID ANYTHING HAPPENED TO HAVE ASSOCIATES OR OTHER FIRMS. OKAY? ALL RIGHT. I JUST WANTED TO GET INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT. UM IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND SENDING A NOTE TO COUNSEL. I JUST LIKE TO SEE WHO ALL WE HAVE BUSINESS WITH RIGHT NOW. I DON'T NEED ANY EXHAUSTIVE SUMMARY OF EVERYTHING, BUT JUST WHAT'S THE PORTFOLIO OF WORK WE HAVE WITH THE DIFFERENT ENGINEERING FIRMS? JUST INTERVIEWING FIRMS? OKAY YEAH, NOT ACROSS THE BOARD, JUST JUST ENGINEERING FIRMS FOR DESIGN. AND CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS. OKAY ALRIGHT. THE ITEMS AVAILABLE FOR CONSIDERATIONS OR ANYONE THAT WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION ON THIS, BY THE WAY, MY OPINION ON IT IS I STILL THINK THE ROAD NEEDS TO BE BUILT, SO WE STILL NEED TO DO THE DESIGN REGARDLESS OF WHERE WE GO WITH ROAD ASSESSMENT FEES OR NOT, UM, SO I THINK WE STILL NEED TO KEEP OUR FOOT ON THE GAS TO GET PROJECTS DONE IN THE TOWN. WE HAVE THE MONEY TO COVER THIS FROM WHAT SOURCE? UH, ROAD IMPACT FEES. OKAY. THIS IS AN AREA THAT'S UH NOT A LOT OF PROJECTS ARE DOWN HERE. MOST OF THEM HAVE BEEN DEVELOPER BUILT, SO WE HAVE AN AVAILABLE BALANCE IN THE SOUTHEAST. QUADRANT. OKAY, GOOD. LET'S KEEP THE BALL ROLLING. THEN THAT'S THAT'S MY TAKE MOTION TO APPROVE. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THEIR SECOND HAVE A SECOND OVER HERE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE, ANY OPPOSED? OKAY, UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO, UM. I'D LIKE

[6.G. Consider a Resoluon of the Town of Northlake, Texas, authorizing the execuon and delivery of an agreement between the Town of Northlake, the City of Jusn, and the Trinity River Authority for certain wastewater collecon mains and the transportaon of wastewater]

TO SHUFFLE UP THE ACTION ITEMS THIS EVENING. WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE HERE FROM T. R A AND WE'VE GOT A RATHER IMPORTANT ITEM ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT. ACTION ITEM G. AND SO I'D LIKE TO ASK THAT REPRESENTATIVE COME UP, INTRODUCE THEMSELVES AND TALK TO US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE T. R A. AND, UH, THE MASTER AGREEMENT WITH JUSTIN THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL MATT JABBERED ON THE EXECUTIVE MANAGER FOR THE NORTHERN REGION FOR THE TRAINING RIVER AUTHORITY. ACTUALLY JUST BEEN IN THIS POSITION AFTER ABOUT A YEAR PREDECESSOR. SHE WAS IN THERE FOR QUITE A WHILE. SO, UM BASICALLY, UM, THANK YOU, JIM. YOU GOTTA CLICKER UNDERNEATH THERE. WORK. SO JUST TO GIVE YOU KIND OF A BACKGROUND OF WHAT TIRADE DOES AND SERVES IN THIS REGION, WE ACTUALLY HAVE FIVE WASTEWATER PLANTS. ONE WATER PLANT OF THE FIVE. THIS IS OUR DIDN'T CREEK REGIONAL WASTEWATER SYSTEM. I'D SAY IT'S PROBABLY ONE OF OUR FASTEST GROWING SYSTEMS THAT WE DEALT WITH. UM IT'S BEEN IN SERVICE SINCE THE EARLY NINETIES. WE'VE GONE THROUGH MULTIPLE EXPANSIONS WERE CURRENTLY AT 11 A HALF MG D DESIGN CAPACITY WITH THE CQ AND THEN WE'RE ALSO IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING UP TO 16.5 M G D RIGHT NOW, JUST BECAUSE DUE TO THE GROWTH AND THE POPULATION PROJECTIONS THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE TOWNS AND THE CITIES WITHIN OUR CUSTOMERS. THAT'S WHAT WE END UP PROJECTING OUT OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS. SO IN THIS SYSTEM WE HAVE WE SERVED 12 CUSTOMERS, INCLUDING THE SOUTHTOWN, NORTH LAKE AND SEA OF JUSTIN. WE HAVE PIPE DIAMETERS THAT RANGE FROM 12 INCH ALL LIVE TO 84 INCH ABOUT 46 MILES OF

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PIPELINE. AND SO WE DEAL WITH BIGGER DIAMETERS LINES IN THIS SYSTEM, AND WE'VE ALSO HAD FOUR MAJOR INTERCEPTOR SYSTEMS. THIS ONE THAT I'M PRESENTING TODAY WILL ACTUALLY BE OUR FIFTH MAJOR INTERCEPTOR SYSTEM SO IT WILL BE ACTUALLY CALLED THE DIDN'T CREAK TRAVEL ON THE DIDN'T CREEK AREA AND ITS INTERCEPTOR. THAT WE END UP CALLING THAT ONE. SO JUST A LITTLE BIT BACK ON HOW WE GOT HERE TODAY. SO BACK IN MAY OF 22 THE TALENT, NORTHLAKE ENTERED AN AGREEMENT WITH A PLUMBER TO DO THE PLUMBER DESIGN AND DURING THAT TIME HAD WORKED VERY CLOSE WITH THEM, MAYOR PLUMMER. THEY WORKED VERY CLOSE WITH THIS, KNOWING THAT WE WERE GOING TO TIME OUR SYSTEM, AND AT THAT TIME WE HADN'T REALLY WORKED WITH THE CITY OF JUSTIN AND SO AND CONVERSATIONS WITH OPPORTUNITY AND ACTUALLY WITHDREW. HE MENTIONED THAT JUSTIN WAS KIND OF GOING THROUGH THE EVALUATION OF WHETHER OR NOT THEY WERE GOING TO EXPAND THEIR WASTEWATER PLANT OR FIND A WAY TO TIE INTO OUR SYSTEM BECAUSE WE HAD WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM FOR MANY YEARS TO ASK THEM IF THEY WANTED TO JOIN, AND THEY JUST HADN'T WANTED TO JOIN WELL THIS PAST YEAR. THEY DIDN'T WANT TO GO AHEAD AND JOIN. SO UM, WITH THAT DISPOSED AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REGIONALIZATION OF THE INTERCEPTOR SYSTEM AND A PARTNERSHIP. SO THE FALL NORTHLAKE AND JUSTIN PARTNERED TO CONSTRUCT THIS SO THEIR PROPOSED PARTNER WOULD EXTEND THROUGH NORTH LAKE AND TERMINATED JUSTIN CITIES CITY LIMITS JUST TO BE RIGHT AT WORD.

JUSTIN'S EXISTING WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLAN EXISTS. AND THEN UPON COMPLETION OF THE PIPELINE , WE WOULD ACTUALLY TAKE OVER THE ACTUAL ASSET. BUT THE SYSTEM ITSELF WILL REMAIN A TOWN OF NORTH NORTH LAKE AND CITY OF JUSTICE SYSTEM FOR 20 YEARS, SO ONCE THE DEBTS PAID OFF, IT WOULD ACTUALLY COME INTO OUR BOOKS AS THE OVERALL SYSTEM FOR DIDN'T CREAK AT THAT POINT, BUT WE WOULD STILL MAINTAIN AND OPERATE THAT SYSTEM. SO IN APRIL , 2023 ENTERED INTO MOU WITH JUSTIN. UM AND THEN NOW WE'RE HERE TODAY TO LOOK AT DISAGREEMENT THAT WE HAD PRESENTED IN FRONT OF YOU BETWEEN THE THREE PARTIES BETWEEN NORTH LIGHT. JUSTIN AND T R A. AND THEN ALSO THERE'S SOME AGREEMENTS IN THERE WERE CUSTOMERS WILL BRING A BURST THE AUTHORITY FOR THIS CONSTRUCTION PROJECT AS WELL AS GETTING IT TO THE COMPLETION. SO THE SO WE'VE ACTUALLY ESTABLISHED A NEW DESIGN CONTRACT WITH PLUMBER. SO I THINK WHEN WE WHEN THE NORTH LAKE HAD TURNED IT OVER TO US, OR WILL BE TURNING OVER TO US. IT'S ABOUT 30% DESIGNED, SO IT'S PRETTY MUCH HAS THE ALIGNMENT. THEY'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH SOME ISSUES WITH THE CORE PROPERTY. AND SO WELL, MAYBE WE'LL TAKE THAT OVER AND WORK WITH PLUMBER DIRECTLY ON GETTING THAT ACROSS THE FINISH LINE WILL ACTUALLY GO AND ENQUIRE ALL THE LAND RIGHTS AS WELL. AND THEN, OF COURSE, WE'LL OPERATE, MAINTAIN AND IMPROVE THE SYSTEM AS WELL. AND I JUST MENTIONED THAT EARLIER ONCE THE DEBTS PAID OFF, IT WILL BECOME PART OF THE REGIONAL SYSTEM AT THAT POINT IN TIME, SO JUST GIVE A LITTLE BACKGROUND AS FAR AS WHICH EACH PHASE IS GOING TO ENTAIL IS ABOUT 12,000 IN YOUR FEET FOR PHASE ONE THAT'S BETWEEN 54 AND 60 INCH DESIGNS COMPLETELY LIKE I MENTIONED AS MANY CONSTRUCTION FOR THIS WOULD BE AROUND SCHEDULED FOR 2025 SO RELEASED ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF HOUR TO GET THAT TO COMPLETION. PHASE TWO. WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO PROBABLY GO AND START PHASE TWO. IN OCTOBER, DECEMBER TIME FRAME BECAUSE I KNOW JUSTIN'S GOT A TIMELINE. THEY THEY'RE TRYING TO SHOOT FOR 2026 2027. SO AS THIS PHASE WILL BE PHASE ONE IS CONSTRUCTED ALREADY BE IN THE DESIGN OF PHASE TWO. SO THAT WAY WE CAN MARRY THE TWO PIPELINES TOGETHER, AND THAT'S ESTIMATED OF 2026 MORE, PROBABLY CLOSER TO 27, JUST BASED ON LAND RIGHTS WILL BE A BIG DRIVER ON THAT AS WELL. THIS IS JUST THE OUTLINE OF HOW THAT'S GOING TO WORK AS FAR AS THE DIFFERENT PHASES AND THE DIFFERENT SIZING, SO PHASE ONE WILL FOLLOW THAT CORRIDOR FROM OUR WASTEWATER PLANT TO 35 AND THEN FROM RIGHT ABOUT 35 PHASE TWO WILL PICK UP AND THEN FOLLOW DIDN'T CREAK AS IT GOES TO JUSTIN'S WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT. THE CONTRACT WITH PLUMBER AS AN AMOUNT OF ABOUT 1,000,007 OR 39,000 WITH SPECIAL SERVICES ABOUT 150,000, AND IT INCLUDES ALL THAT WORK THAT THAT COST IS ALL SHARED BETWEEN THE TWO ENTITIES. AND THEN THIS IS WHAT WE WHAT WE LIKE TO DO WHEN WE PRESENT OUR CAPITAL PROGRAM TO OUR CUSTOMERS. WE DEVELOP WHAT THEY CALL FIVE YEARS, CLP. SO THIS IS JUST A SMALLER VERSION SHOWING HOW THIS TWO SYSTEMS WILL BE, UM, STAGED FOR PHASE ONE. AND THEN WHEN YOU SEE ALL THE DIFFERENT ON THE DIFFERENT PHASES THAT THEIR FINAL DESIGN LAND RIGHTS CONSTRUCTION, ADMINISTRATION INSPECTION AND CONSTRUCTION COSTS AND SO WHAT WE DIDN'T WANT TO DO IS WE DIDN'T WANT TO SIT HERE AND GO.

WE'RE GOING TO SELL ALL THE BONDS RIGHT NOW AND THEN START DESIGNING WHAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO HAVE HAVE TO BE PAYING THAT SO EACH YEAR WHERE WE WHERE WE SHOW THAT WILL BE SELLING THOSE BONDS IN ORDER TO, UH, MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT HAVING HAVE A BUNCH OF BONDS THAT WERE SITTING ON AND WE'RE WAITING TWO YEARS TO CONSTRUCT THE PROJECT, WANT TO MAKE SURE WE SPACE THOSE OUT AND THEN HELPS WITH THE DEBT SERVICE AS WELL. TOTAL COST FOR EVERYTHING

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LOOKS LIKE ABOUT 44.9 MILLION. AND THEN THIS IS A DEBT SCHEDULE THAT I PROVIDED DREW AND THIS IS JUST OUTLINES EACH YEAR WHEN WE'RE SELLING THOSE BONDS, AND THEN HOW THAT'S ALL PAID OUT OVER THE LIFE OF THE BONDS. AND I CAN'T REMEMBER CHRISTINE. WHAT WAS THE INTEREST RATE ON THESE ON THIS BOND? ABOUT 5% I WILL TELL YOU. WE DID JUST SELL BONDS YESTERDAY CAME IN AROUND 3.9. SO WE'RE SEEING BETWEEN 3.9 TO 5 RIGHT NOW. SO THE MARKETS IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S STABILIZING A LITTLE BIT, TOO. SO THE WAY THAT THE CONTRACT IS WRITTEN AND THE WAY THAT THE AGREEMENT IS WRITTEN, SO WHAT WE DID IS THE AUTHORITY. WE DID A PROPORTIONAL SHARE STUDY AND WE DECIDED THE CITY BOTH JUST A NORTHLAKE DECIDED WE'LL DO A 50 50 SPLIT ON THAT. THAT'S WHERE WE CAME UP WITH THESE PERCENTAGES, SO WE HAD TO LOOK AT EACH SEGMENT OF THE PIPELINE AND FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH IS CONTRIBUTING BASED ON THE CAPACITY SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT CAPACITY IS BOUGHT, AND THEN THEIR CAPACITY IS BOUGHT. AND THEN EVERYBODY'S SPLITTING THAT BASED ON THOSE SHARES, SO PHASE ONE CAME OUT TO ABOUT 35% JUSTIN 65% NORTH LAKE AND THEN PHASE TWO WOULD BE 60% JUSTIN AND 40. NORTHLAKE. SO FOR THE PROJECTED DEBT SERVICE AND CONTRACT REVENUE WE WOULD NEED IN 23 AND 24 KIND OF OUTLINED THOSE FOR YOU. UM, BUT ONE THING THAT WE HAVE BEEN TALKING WITH IS ON THE WORK THAT YOU HAVE ALREADY DONE TO DATE. AND SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE SOME NUMBERS ON THAT. SO I ASKED YOU TO SEND ME THIS. SO I THINK RIGHT NOW Y'ALL Y'ALL SPENT ABOUT 563,500 ON THE PROJECT. SO WHAT WILL END UP HAPPENING IS INSTEAD OF THE PAYMENT CITY ARE MAKING THE PAYMENT ON THOSE ON THE 23. WE'RE JUST GONNA INCREASE SUGGESTIONS ALLOCATION TO COVER THE COVER THEIR PROPORTIONAL SHARE, SINCE NORTHLAKE HAS ALREADY PUT MONEY INTO THAT, SO , REALLY, YOU WOULDN'T BE GETTING PAYMENT UNTIL THE 2024 WHICH WOULD BE AROUND 42,001 13 . SO THAT'S HOW I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE KIND OF CREDIT. YOU GET CREDIT NORTH BLAKE AND THEN HAVE JUST TO GO AHEAD AND PAY FOR THAT'S THE WAY THEY GET THEIR SHARE IN THERE MAKES IT EVEN OUT THAT WAY. AND WITH THAT, I'LL OPEN UP FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. SO. HOW HOW ARE RATES LOOKING FOR IN TOWN DEBT VERSUS T R A. THAT SOUNDS PRETTY GOOD. THEY GET BETTER RATES THAN WE DO. YEAH I, UM, THAT SOUNDED REAL GOOD. UM WE HAVEN'T WE HAVEN'T GONE OUT TO THE MARKET RECENTLY, UM UM, ER A ISSUES QUITE A BIT MORE DEBT THAN WE DO. UM NOW WE'RE PART OF THE GUARANTOR OF THAT, BUT SO ARE THE 11. OTHERS AND I MEAN, TERRY GOES ALL THE WAY DOWN TO HOUSTON AREA, SO IT'S VERY LARGE ORGANIZATION SO THEY HAVE A LOT MORE. THEY THEY PROBABLY HAVE HIRED BONDING RATE AS WELL. ARE Y'ALL TRIPLE A. SO THIS WILL DEPEND ON THE BASIC. IT'S BACKED ON. WHO ARE THE ENTITIES INVOLVED IN THE BOND SELL, SO IT'S GOING TO BE BASED ON WHAT THAT RATING IS FOR THE TWO ENTITIES THE TOWN NORTH LAKE AND CITY OF JUSTIN, AND WE HAVEN'T REALLY DONE THAT YET. HAVE WE? CHRISTINE? YES. CRAZY FUN. SO IT MAY NOT BE THAT GOOD BECAUSE IT WAS BASED ON A PLUS SEEING IT, SO DON'T GET TOO EXCITED. I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU SOME GOOD WANTED TO GIVE YOU SOME RANGES SO IT CAN RANGE FROM 3.9 TO 5. YOU KNOW, WE'RE APPRECIATE THAT . WE'RE FRIENDS RIGHT NOW. SO IT'S MUST BE NICE. OKAY WAS SPEAKING FOR NORTH LIKE ONLY YES. I APPRECIATE THAT. ALL RIGHT, YOU'RE YOU'RE SPLIT ON PHASE TWO. JUSTIN 60% NORTH LIKE 40% SO THAT INTERCEPTOR THAT'S COMING ACROSS THE TOWN DOWN TRAIL CREEK. DOES THIS INCLUDE THE FLOWS FROM PECAN SQUARE WHEN THAT'S RETIRED? YES SIR. SO THAT'S WHERE OUR 40% COMING IN.

BECAUSE I WAS LIKE, I DON'T I MEAN, BASED ON WHAT THEY'RE BRINGING TO THE TABLE WEST OF US, I WAS LIKE, I DON'T SEE A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT ON THAT CORRIDOR. OKAY, LET'S GET TO KNOW ALL RIGHT, UM COUNCIL JUMP IN ANY TIME. DID I UNDERSTAND RIGHT THEN, AFTER ALL THAT IS CONSTRUCTED AND 20 ODD YEARS GOES BY BASICALLY YOU OWN THAT PIPE. WE ONLY OWN IT. IT BECOMES PART OF THE DIDN'T CREEK REGIONAL WASTEWATER SYSTEM. SO IF THERE'S EVER ANY IMPROVEMENTS BEYOND THAT, THEN IT BECOMES A SYSTEM COST. BUT DURING THAT 20 YEAR TIME FRAME, IT IS A TOWN OF NORTH LAKE CITY OF JUSTIN INTERCEPTOR SYSTEM, SO JUST TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE IF THERE'S A MAJOR EMERGENCY REPAIR THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE WITHIN THAT 20 YEARS, WE WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO BOTH CITIES AND BASICALLY PRESENT THAT IF WE HAD TO REPAIR ON IT BUT AFTER THAT 20 YEARS AND THE DEBTS PAID OFF, THERE IS A MAJOR MAJOR. EMERGENCY REPAIR AT THAT POINT IN TIME, THEN IT BECOMES A WHOLE SYSTEM COSTS SO THAT PART OF INTERESTS ME A LOT. BECAUSE LONG TERM COSTS OF THE

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SYSTEMS AFTER 20 YEARS, 30 YEARS WE SEE CITIES LIKE ATLANTA GO BROKE OVER THINGS LIKE THIS. SO MAJOR LINE LIKE THAT BECOMING A SHARED COSTS AMONGST THE ENTIRE SYSTEM IS PRETTY ENTICING. AND I WOULD SAY TO MOST OF ARTICULATION IMPACT TECHNOLOGY NOWADAYS, COMPARATIVE LIKE IN OUR CENTRAL SYSTEM WE'VE GOT OVER 300 MILES ONLINE RCP PIPE THAT WE'RE HAVING TO GO THROUGH.

AND SO WE'RE PUTTING. IN FACT, THIS IS FABRIC GOOD, MORE LIKELY TO BE FIBERGLASS REINFORCED PIPE. AND THAT'S KIND OF THE NEW STANDARD THAT WE'VE SETTLED ON. AND IT SEEMS THE LAST 30 PLUS YEARS, YOU KNOW, JUST BASED ON TESTING AND STUFF THAT THEY'VE BEEN ON IT SO. SO THAT DOES THAT ALSO MEAN IF THERE HAD TO BE IN THEIR STUB ON HERE, THINGS LIKE THAT. BECAUSE AFTER 20 YEARS THAT THAT SYSTEM AS WELL, OR IS THAT COME BACK TO THE CITY'S, THEN YOU MEAN AS JUST AN EXAMPLE . IT'S LIKE IF YOU HAVE A LET'S SAY THEY'RE YOU KNOW, RIGHT AT THE BLUE AND YELLOW LINES. I WRITE THE BORDERS THERE HAS BEEN ANOTHER LITTLE SPLIT SOMEWHERE. DOES THAT GO STRAIGHT TO ITS? YOU KNOW, JUSTIN'S I GO STRAIGHT TO JUSTIN IS THAT PART OF THE SYSTEM IMPROVEMENTS SO IN ORDER FOR IT TO BE A SYSTEM NECESSARY TO MORE CUSTOMERS, SO ANYTHING BEYOND IF JUSTIN IS GOING TO EXTEND ANYTHING OUT? THAT WOULD BE ON THEIR COST. ANYTHING THAT GOES NORTH OR SOUTH OF THAT INTERCEPTOR WOULD BE NORTH LAKE. I WOULD, BUT WE WOULD. THERE'S A WHAT THEY CALL POINT OF INJURY APPLICATION. CITIES WOULD SUBMIT THAT TO US AND THEN YOU KNOW, SORT OF REVIEW. THEN REMEMBER, THIS WAS A TOWN ONLY IN NORTHLAKE ONLY PROJECTS SO THAT BLUE LINE WAS OURS. AND THEN THAT DOTTED LINE CONTINUES UP CATHERINE BRANCH THAT WAS OUR PROJECT AND THEN JUSTIN, UM, DECIDED TO PARTNER WITH US VERSUS EXPANDING THEIR PLANT. AND THAT BECOMES PHASE TWO TO CONNECT THEM THERE, BUT ANYTHING THAT CONNECTION TO THE YELLOW OR BLUE WOULD BE US OR JUSTIN OR POSSIBLY ANOTHER. ANOTHER CUSTOMER. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY COME FROM. BUT YEAH, GETTING THE COST FOR JUST AND EXPAND THEIR PLANT WAS GOING TO BE ABOUT 25 TO 30 MILLION VERSUS BUILDING A PIPELINE AND PARTNERING THE JUST WORKED OUT FOR THEM. AND THAT WAS WHERE WE WERE GOING WITH WITH MY QUESTION IS, UM THIS. THIS IS STRATEGIC FOR OUR REGION, AND IT'S NOT ONLY GOOD FOR NORTH LAKE. IT'S GOOD FOR JUSTIN. WHAT'S GOOD FOR BOTH OF US IS GOOD FOR THE ECONOMICS OF THE REGION, WHICH HELPS ALL OF US AND I DO BELIEVE THAT THIS IS A GOOD GOOD WAY FOR US TO HEAL SOME OF THE PAST HISTORY. BETWEEN OUR TOWNS AND PROVIDE FOR A MORE RESILIENT NEIGHBOR. AND THAT'S TO OUR BEST INTEREST. THERE'S A LOT OF STRATEGIC VALUE IN THAT VERY APPRECIATIVE THAT WE GOT TO THIS POINT. AND THE OTHER THING IS THAT THE OPPORTUNITY TONIGHT WE HAVE TWO PROJECTS THAT ARE ON OUR AGENDA THIS EVENING WHERE THERE'S SIGNIFICANT PROJECTS THAT ARE BEING PUT OFF OUR BOOKS . AND FOR US. THAT'S $100 MILLION OFF OUR BOOKS GIVES US MORE CAPACITY TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO A LOT SAFER FOR US TO PARTNER ON PROJECTS AND IT IS TO DO IT ALONE. SO THIS IS THIS FITS OUR STRATEGIC PLAN. SO THIS IS THIS IS A BIG WIN. FOR BOTH TOWNS FOR US FINANCIALLY AND IT ACCELERATES OUR, UH, OUR BUILD OUT WHICH IS NECESSARY FOR WHAT WE HAVE ON THE GROUND ALREADY AND WHAT'S COMING SO THIS IS THIS IS GOOD. COUNSELOR. YOU HAVE SOME MORE. NO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR HIGHLIGHTING THE FINANCIAL BENEFITS OF DOING IT THIS WAY. I THINK IT'S LIKE THE MAYOR WAS SAYING, IT'S A IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR REGIONS APPRECIATE YOU SHARING. THANK YOU. NO PROBLEM. ALRIGHT SO COUNCIL YOU'VE EVALUATED THE RESOLUTION. I'LL LET YOU GO. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM, STAFF.

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO ADD TO THIS? NO, SIR. OKAY. SO WE DO NEED TO ADOPT THE

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RESOLUTION. IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THE COUNCIL WHAT? WHAT ACTION YOU WANT TO TAKE ON THIS ONE? MOVED TO APPROVE. I'LL SECOND THAT. ANY TIME WE GET TO OFFLOAD $47 MILLION LIKE THAT SURPRISED NOBODY WAS JUMPING IN FASTER. OKAY ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE. I HAVE A SECOND. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? OKAY ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY IRISH AGAIN, ALRIGHT POST. YES, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL GO BACK TO

[6.A. Consider an Ordinance of the Town of Northlake, Texas, designangageographicarea within the Town as a Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone pursuant to Chapter 311 of the Texas Tax Code, to be known as ReinvestmentZone Number Two, Town of Northlake, Texas i. Public hearing ii. Consider approval]

OUR SEQUENCE BACK TO ACTION ITEM A AND ON THIS ONE, WE DID HAVE SOME ACTIVITY TO DO IN THIS ONE, BUT THE APPLICANT AND ASKED US TO KICK THIS OUT. THEY'RE STILL WORKING ON SOME OF THE FINE TUNING WITH OUR STAFF, AND WE NEED TO GET THIS ONE RIGHT. AND SO WE HAD A DEADLINE IN OUR ORIGINAL AGREEMENT, UM, OF 60 DAYS, AND SO WE NEEDED TO PUT THIS ON HERE AND GET THIS STARTED, BUT THEY'RE THEY'RE WILLING TO GO TO NINETIES. SO WE'RE FINE WITH THAT. COUNCIL IF YOU AGREE, BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT. AND THEN CARRY THAT OVER AND WE'LL FINISH UP THE ACTION ITEM AT A POINT IN THE FUTURE, MR. ACCORDING TO DO YOU WANT TO JUST

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DESCRIBE THE PROJECT AGAIN FOR THE PUBLIC SO THEY CAN HAVE SOME CONTEXT BEFORE THEY IF THEY CHOOSE TO MAKE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT, UM SO WE, UH THIS IS THE WHO WOULD DEVELOPMENT. IT'S, UH OVER 800 ACRES. THIS TOURS TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE , 50% WOULD GO TO PAY BACK THE DEVELOPER FOR BUILDING A NUMBER OF PROJECTS. UM AND YEAH, BUT WE'VE WE'VE RECEIVED BRAVE RECEIVED. REQUEST FROM THE DEVELOPER PROPERTY OWNER. FOR ANOTHER 30 DAYS, WE WILL PROBABLY NOT BE READY TO BRING THIS BACK. AUGUST 24TH WILL BRING IT BACK SEPTEMBER 14TH YEAR SEPTEMBER MEETING BUT WILL STILL BE WITHIN THAT NEW 90 DAYS. ALRIGHT SO WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6 46. PM ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS TOPIC THIS EVENING. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL BRING IT BACK IN A MONTH. THEN WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT SOME MORE STILL TO DATE SPECIFIC. WELL LET ME FINISH THE UNLESS YOU WANT TO SPEAK. I THOUGHT YOU DID SORRY. 6 46 PM WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND GO AHEAD. WHAT DO YOU WANT TO CLOSE A PUBLIC HEARING? YOU WANT TO KEEP IT OPEN? I'M SORRY. YES SO LET'S LET'S HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING HEARING OVER TO THE NEXT MEETING, SO WE NEED TO TAKE A DECISION TO THE COUNCIL TO DO THAT. YES YES. ALL RIGHT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF MOVING THE PUBLIC HEARING TO THE NEXT MONTH. SAY I SUPPOSE. IS THAT GOOD, HE SAID NEXT MEETING. I'M SORRY. I DID SAY NEXT MEETING, BUT WE NEED WE GOTTA GO TO MEETINGS. WE'RE GOING TO SEPTEMBER, RIGHT? I DON'T WE CAN WE CAN, CAN WE? IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH TABLING AGAIN ON THE 24TH. WE CAN DO IT TO THE NEXT MEETING. I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ENOUGH TIME BECAUSE WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE THE ITEM IN PACKETS BY FRIDAY. SO IF YOU WANT IF YOU WANT TO, UH, TABLE TO A DATE SPECIFIC SEPTEMBER 14TH OTHERWISE WE CAN KEEP WE CAN KEEP ROLLING FORWARD. ALRIGHT LET'S DO THIS ONE MORE

[6.A. VOTE]

TIME. MOTION TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HERE CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING TO SEPTEMBER. THE 14TH.

MEETING ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF A SECOND. DO I NEED A SECOND ON THIS ONE. YES I NEED A 2ND 2ND ALRIGHT, HAVE EMOTIONS TO KICK IT TO SEPTEMBER. 14TH AND I HAVE A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE OPPOSED. RIGHT DID WE GET IT DONE? THANK YOU. EVEN WITH ME INTERRUPTING YOU. SORRY. JUST GIVE ME A LITTLE GRIEF. THAT'S ALL. ALRIGHT, ITEM B. THIS IS SO WE'VE GOT A COUPLE HERE WHERE

[6.B. Consider an Ordinance of the Town of Northlake, Texas, authorizing and ordering a Special Elecon to be held in the Town of Northlake on November 7, 2023, for the purpose of submiFng to the qualified voters of the Town of Northlake, Texas, a queson as to the issuance of bonds, prescribing the me and designangthe locaons and manner of conducngthe elecon to be in accordance with the Joint Elecon Agreement and Contract for Elecon Services with Denton County and the Denton County Elecons Administrator; authorizing the Town Manager to execute the Agreement and Contract; and providingan effecve date]

WE'RE ORDERING A SPECIAL ELECTION, SETTING THE DATES FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS. THE NEXT THREE THIS ONE IS FOR THE SPORTS PROJECT. AND SO THIS IS TO CALL THE ELECTION. NOW LET'S JUST REMEMBER WHERE WE HOW WE GOT HERE EARLY, MR CORN, YOU'RE GONNA GIVE A BRIEFING? SURE.

BULLET POINTS. BRIEFLY BUT THIS IS THE PROJECT THERE WAS A SPECIAL ELECTION MEASURE FOR THE SOURCES OF REVENUE TO DEDICATE TO THIS PROJECT, AND THEY ARE FROM THE TWO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATIONS AND 8% OF THEIR HALF CENTS TAX. UM, MAJORITY OF THIS WILL BE FROM THE LEASE AGREEMENT OF THE OF THE LESSER AND OR LET'S SEE. AND THEN FINALLY, A ADDITIONAL 2% HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX. AH AS WE TALKED ABOUT WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE LEGISLATIVE CHANGES THEY HAVE NOW DEFINED SPORTS VENUE AS NOT A PUBLIC WORK. UM AND WE UM CANNOT YOU.

FOR THAT WE CANNOT USE PROPERTY TAXES TO BACK THE DEAD, NOT PAY THE DEBT BUT TO BACK IT, AND SO IN ORDER TO DO THAT, THEY'LL NEED TO BE A SPECIAL ELECTION GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS FOR THIS AND, UM THE LAST WE LOOKED AT THIS. IT WAS OVER 2% DIFFERENCE. I FORGOT WHAT IT'S CALLED IN BASIS POINTS. UM 200, OR 200 BASIS POINTS BASIS POINTS SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THAT SOME OF THOSE BOTTOM ONES IT'S A LOT OF DEBT SERVICE THAT 2% ESPECIALLY UNDER $45 MILLION ISSUE. SO AGAIN, THIS WAS THIS IS JUST A GUARANTEE IN IN THE WORST CASE SCENARIO, PROPERTY TAXES WOULD BE CALLED UPON. THAT'S WHAT THIS OBLIGATION IS. BUT THE WORK. WE'VE DONE THE LEASE AGREEMENT THE ADDITIONAL REVENUE SOURCES. WE ALSO HAVE A COMMITMENT FROM THE CDC, TWO SEED 2 MILLION TO

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THIS TO HELP WITH THAT INITIAL DEBT SERVICE, SO WE BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE DEVELOPED A PROFORMA THAT DOES NOT USE PROBABLY TAXES , BUT BY VIRTUE OF DOING THIS GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND ELECTION. SAVE THE TAXPAYERS OVER THE LIFE OF THIS DEBT SERVICE. $22 MILLION NOT THE TAXPAYERS. A B C C, D. C HOT AND LET'S SEE. I'M SORRY. THE PROJECT GOOD POINT. THANK YOU.

OKAY SO COUNCIL LOOKING AT IT FROM A PHILOSOPHICAL STANDPOINT. WE WENT TO THE PUBLIC. THE PUBLIC DECIDED THE PROJECT WAS SOMETHING THEY WANTED TO DO, AND THEY WANTED TO DEDICATE THE SOURCES OF REVENUE TO IT. NOW YOU HEAR THE DECISIONS THAT HAVE COME FROM THE LEGISLATURE THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOWER IT. IT'S NEVER A BAD THING TO GO BACK OUT TO THE PUBLIC AND SEE IF WE'RE STILL ON THE RIGHT TRACK FOR WHAT THEY WANT TO DO. AND SO THE ONLY ACTION YOU'RE TAKING TONIGHT IS CALLING AN ELECTION SO THAT WE CAN RE VALIDATE WITH THE VOTERS THAT THIS IS WHAT THEY WANT TO DO. FOR THE SPORTS PROJECT. SO YOU'RE NOT COMMITTING US TO IT? YOU'RE ASKING THEM WHETHER THEY WANTED TO GO THIS APPROACH. SO WHILE IT DOES SAVE MONEY TO THE PROJECT.

THEY MAY NOT WANT TO GO THAT DIRECTION. SO IF THEY DON'T, THEN YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT DECISION TO MAKE AFTER THAT, BUT THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO VALIDATE THE DIRECTION THAT WE'RE HEADED. SO YOU WOULDN'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT. A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ON IT. UM ON THE BULLET POINTS. REGARDING TEAM THE DEBT WITH PROPERTY TAXES. BUT THEN YOU JUST MENTIONED THAT PROPERTY TAXES COULD BE ON THE HOOK. CORRECT. CORRECT. NOW. THE ONE I READ THE ACTUAL WORDS THAT ARE GOING TO BE ON THE BALLOT. VOTERS. THERE IS NO MENTION AT ALL IN THERE THAT PROPERTY TAXES. CAN BE AT RISK. NO MENTION WHATSOEVER THAT PROPERTY TAXES ARE GUARANTEEING THE DEBT. BUT IT'S NOT INCLUDED. THE ACTUAL WORDING. I BELIEVE IT IS, IF YOU LOOK AT THE BOTTOM PART, SAYS MHM SHALL THERE BE LEVIED AND PLEDGED ASSESSED AND COLLECTED ANNUALLY ADVIL ARMED TAXES ON TAXABLE PROPERTY AND SAID TOWN AMOUNT SUFFICIENT WITHIN THE LIMITS PRESCRIBED BY LAW. SO ON AND SO FORTH, THAT IS, THAT'S WHERE THE FORUM TAXES COMING PROPOSITION. THAT'S IN THE PROPOSITION A THAT GOES TO THE BALLOT. ON PAGE TWO. WELL. ON THE NEXT PAGE. OKAY ALL RIGHT, SO YOU MEANING THAT ONE TOTALLY DIFFERENT. AND SECTION 11 D. BONDS ARE TRUE BY THE VOTERS. THE COUNCIL WILL BE AUTHORIZED TO LEVY ANNUAL LAUREN TAXES ON ALL TAXABLE PROPERTY IN THE TOWN. OKAY. SO THE LAST SENTENCE ON THE PAGE THREE THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE LAST SENTENCE IS LEVYING A TAX EFFICIENT TO MAKE THE PAYMENTS OF PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST THERE ON LEVYING A TAX IS THE REFERENCE TO BACKING UP BY PROPERTY TEXT. AND IT DOESN'T SUBSCRIBE THE TEXT HOTEL TAXES AT THE ALARM TAXES. IT'S JUST NOT CLEAR TO THE VOTERS. WELL IT SAYS AT THE START OF THAT SENTENCE EARLIER IN THE PREVIOUS LINE AS A CERTAIN HOTEL, OCCUPANCY TAX AND SALES TAX REVENUES AND LEVYING A TAX EFFICIENT TO MAKE THE PAYMENTS OF P AND I THERE ON SO IT IS REFERENCING ALL FOUR SOURCES. BUT I GET YOUR POINT. SO HOW DID THESE GET DEVELOPED? WHO DEVELOPS THE LANGUAGE ON THESE ABOUT OUR BOND COUNSEL, OKAY? YES WE'LL TALK TO THEM, AND WE CAN ADD THAT BE SPECIFIC ON THAT TYPE OF TAX. OKAY TRUE IT UP TO MAKE THEM THE SAME AS LONG AS THE VOTERS KNOW WHAT? THEY'RE VOTING ON POINT. YES, SIR. I'M ASKING FOR PAGE TWO AND PAGE TWO PASTRY READ DIFFERENTLY. VERY GOOD CATCHMENT. I'M LOST ABOUT ONE. WE HAVE TO VOTE ON THIS AGAIN TO BEGIN WITH. IS IT BECAUSE THE LEGISLATURE CHANGE THE CHANGE THE DEFINITION OF WHAT THIS PROJECT FALLS UNDER. IT'S NOT A PUBLIC WORK ANYMORE, WHICH MAKES IT A SPECIAL PROJECT. AND WHILE WE CAN GO TO MARKET RIGHT NOW, AN ISSUE A BOND ON A REVENUE BOND TO PERCENTAGE POINTS HIGHER. IF WE WANT TO ASK THE VOTERS IF THEY WANT TO SAVE THE MONEY, THEY HAVE TO GUARANTEE IT WITH THE PROPERTY TAX SYSTEM. SO IN ORDER TO GUARANTEE ANYTHING WITH THE PROPERTY TAX SYSTEM, YOU GOT TO GO TO THE VOTERS TO GET APPROVAL. SO IT'S NOT THAT IT'S NOT ALREADY APPROVED. IT'S JUST NOT ALREADY APPROVED IN SUCH A WAY THAT WE CAN SAVE THE TAXPAYERS ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR. THAT'S CORRECT THE LEASE AGREEMENT, THE DEDICATION OF A DCC DCC FUNDS ON THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX ARE COMPLETE. THAT'S WHAT THEY VOTED ON BEFORE TO USE THOSE SOURCES. THEY DIDN'T AUTHORIZE US TO USE

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THE TOWN'S GOOD FAITH AND CREDIT FOR THIS PROJECT, AND THE LEGISLATURE WANTS US TO GO TO THEM SPECIFICALLY AND ASK FOR THAT SPECIFIC QUESTION. OKAY? DREW IS IT APPROPRIATE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR LAST MEETING? YOU WANT SUMMARIZE THAT? DO YOU WANT ME TO TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT? JUST AS AN UPDATE OR UH, UM, WITH THE TENANT. HMM KIND OF THE OTHER REVENUE SOURCES THAT WE TALKED ABOUT. YES. SO WE'VE TALKED TO THE POTENTIAL TENANT THROUGH OUR LEASE AGREEMENT, NEGOTIATIONS AND SHOWING THEM OUR DILEMMA. OR CHALLENGE AND THEY THEY'RE OPEN TO A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT WAYS TO TACKLE THIS, UM WE STILL HAVE KIND OF BE REMARKED ABOUT 70% OF THIS TO GO TO BE COVERED BY THE LEASE AND THE OTHER REMAINING 30% BY THESE OTHER SPECIAL REVENUE SOURCES. WE'VE ALSO TALKED TO THEM ABOUT POSSIBLY AN ESCROW PAYMENT UP FRONT THAT COULD THEN BE REPAID LATER IN THE AGREEMENT IN THE LEAST PERIOD, SO THEY'RE VERY OPEN TO ALL THESE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS TO HELP US WITH THAT. SO UM, THAT'S THAT'S NOT REALLY THE ISSUE.

IT'S UM THEY, LIKE THE MAYOR PRO TEM HAS SAID THAT THAT'S THAT'S THE UPDATE, AND THEY'VE, UM THEY'VE BEEN WILLING TO WORK WITH US ON THAT. WE'RE STILL NEGOTIATING THAT, OF COURSE. BUT UM, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, THIS G O BOND WOULD SAVE THE OVERALL PROJECT MAKE IT MIGHT MAKE IT MUCH MORE SUCCESSFUL, AND WE COULD WE COULD BUILD A PROJECT THAT AT WHAT WAS INTENDED AT THE $45 MILLION LEVEL. IN ADDITION TO WE'VE BEEN TALKING WITH THE DEVELOPER DOWN THERE IN THE ADDITIONAL BUT IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE BONDS SPECIFICALLY, BUT THE DEVELOPER BRINGING IN ADDITIONAL RETAIL AND THINGS LIKE THAT HAVEN'T BEEN IN THE FORECAST YET FOR THE PROCEEDS FROM HOTEL TAX THEY WANT BROKE BUILDING OUR HOTEL. UM BRINGING RESTAURANTS AND RETAIL, SO THERE'S MORE FUNDS COMING THERE TO HAVE BEEN IN ANY OF THE NUMBERS YET. WHAT WE TYPICALLY DO IS WE DO OUR PROJECTIONS ON EXISTING IN THIS THIS DOESN'T EXIST YET, BUT WE'RE WITH WITH THIS PROJECT WITH THIS PARTNERSHIP. THEY COULD COME ON AND MAKES A PROJECT THAT MUCH MORE VIABLE. IS IT TRUE THAT IF WE LET'S SAY THERE'S FUTURE RETAIL COMING IN AND WE DO IT WE USUALLY DO AND GIVE HIM A 10 YEAR ABATEMENT ON TAXES. HOW CAN YOU COUNT THAT? TRADITIONAL DON'T WE WOULD WE DON'T. GIVE RETAIL TAX ABATEMENTS OR WE HAVEN'T WE, THE NBC AND CBC GIVES THEM A UH, GRANT OF SALES TAX. UPFRONT, GRANT. UM. BUT YEAH, WE, THE PAYMENTS ARE USUALLY RESERVED FOR THE FOR THE LARGER INDUSTRIAL PROJECTS. UM. THE GOD. WOULD YOU TALK ABOUT THAT MORE? BUT THERE IS A THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT. HIS. YOU KNOW, IT ALL WORKS TOGETHER . IT'S ALL CRUCIAL FOR THE SUCCESS OF THIS. THAT THE SPORTS VENUE BE SURROUNDED BY RETAIL AND PROPERTY VALUE RIGHT NOW, THIS AREA IS, UH, THIS HAS BEEN VACANT FOR MANY YEARS, AND IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET IT ALL. UM DEVELOPED AND ON THE TAX ROLE IN AN AREA DOWN AT 1 14. THAT'S GROWING. WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF ACTIVITY THERE. THIS WILL KIND OF BOOKEND NORTH LAKE ON THIS ON THE SOUTH END OF TOWN. AS A PRACTICALITY. WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THE VOTERS DEFEATED? THIS 45 $45 MILLION GEO BONDS. WE COULD STILL DO IT, BUT WE WOULDN'T HAVE THE TAX SAVINGS AND MY CORRECT IN THAT. CORRECT IT WOULD, UH, IT WOULD INCREASE THO DOWNSIZE THE FACILITY, WHICH WHICH LOWERS THE VIABILITY, WHICH DOESN'T MEET UP TO FEASIBILITY STUDY. UM, SO WE HAVE TO. WE HAVE TO ANY ANY PROJECT SAVINGS IS WOULD BE INVESTED IN THE FACILITY AND MAKE IT A BETTER UM. BETTER ASSET TO NORTH LAKE. ONE OF THE COUNCIL'S STRATEGIC STRATEGIC GOALS IS DEVELOPED AND IDENTITY AND CREATE ICONIC, UM THEN USE ICONIC. ACTIVITIES AND WE FEEL LIKE THIS IS ONE THAT MEETS CHECKS A LOT OF BOXES FOR THE COUNCIL STRATEGIC GOALS. YEAH AT

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THE HEART OF THIS FOR THE PUBLIC. IT'S REALLY ABOUT HOW DO WE SAVE $22 MILLION AND BY BRINGING THIS TO THE VOTERS AND GETTING THE BACKING OF THE VOTERS? WE CAN REDUCE THAT INTEREST RATE. AND MAKE THE PROJECT MUCH, MUCH MORE FEASIBLE. UM AND THAT'S UP TO THE VOTERS AT THIS POINT. IF WE CALL THIS I FEEL LIKE WE'RE STILL CONTINUING TO DANCE AROUND THE LEASE AGREEMENT BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S UNDER NEGOTIATION. UM WHEN DO YOU GENTLEMEN THINK THAT WILL HAVE A LEASE AGREEMENT IN FRONT OF US THAT WILL SHOW US ALL THE DETAILS. THAT WE CAN SHARE WITH THE PUBLIC. HELLO? HOW FAR OUT ARE WE FROM THAT? BEFORE THE BEFORE THE ISSUANCE OF THE DEAD. WE'VE GOT TWO TIME ALL THESE SO WE WILL NOT COMMIT TO THE DEBT UNTIL WE HAVE THAT LEASE AGREEMENT THIS THIS IS JUST LIKE YOU SAID. IT'S JUST AS ASKING THE VOTERS IF IT'S AVAILABLE, BUT AH! WHERE'S. WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF UNKNOWNS. WE'RE STILL TRYING. WE'RE STILL TRYING TO GET GRAPPLE WITH WHAT EXACTLY THE DEBT SERVICE IS GOING TO BE ON THIS. WE'RE STILL NEGOTIATING WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER ON HOW HOW TO GET THE HOW TO GET TO THE SITE. BUT DEFINITELY BEFORE WE COMMIT WILL HAVE A LEASE AGREEMENT SIGNED. SO THAT I UNDERSTAND. I'M MORE INTERESTED IN WHEN MORE DATES CERTAIN. WILL WE HAVE THIS LEASE AGREEMENT ENHANCE FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE BEFORE THIS ELECTION? BECAUSE THERE'S A THERE'S A GAP HERE AND WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO SAY, BECAUSE YOU'RE NEGOTIATING IT. AH HOW FAR AWAY FROM HAVING A PUBLIC AGREEMENT THAT WE CAN POINT TO AND SAY THIS IS WHAT THE STRUCTURE OF THIS LOOKS LIKE. IF THIS PASSES IF NOT, THEN IT IT DOESN'T. BUT ARE YOU SAYING THAT WE WILL NOT HAVE A LEASE AGREEMENT AFTER COUNCIL DIRECTS US? WE COULD DO A TWO SCENARIO LEASE AGREEMENT. WE COULD TRY TO WORK THROUGH THOSE NUMBERS AND HAVE THOSE BEFORE. THE ELECTION OF THAT'S WHAT COUNCIL NEEDS. I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE AT LEAST SCREEN THEM. YEAH, I AGREE. I THINK IT'S I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE IT. YEAH ABSOLUTELY. AND I CONCUR, WITHDREW THEIR THAT THERE'S NO ISSUANCE, BUT THE ELECTION DOES HAVE TO BE CALLED. BEFORE. IS IT ONES DEADLINE FOR THE BALLOTS.

AUGUST 21. AUGUST 21 SO. THE REASONING FOR BRINGING THIS UP QUICKLY SO WE CAN REALIZE THOSE POTENTIAL SAVINGS. WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THE NUMBERS THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE A CHALLENGE OTHER THAN FIGURING IT ALL OUT, BUT IT'S COMING TOGETHER. WE'VE INSTITUTION COST SAVINGS IN OUR LAST MEETING. WE FOUND SOME DESIGN, SAVINGS AND GEOMETRIES OF BUILDING AND SIMPLIFYING THINGS A BIT. SO IT'S COMING TOGETHER. IT'S HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION COUNCIL. UM BUT THERE ARE THE UNKNOWNS. I AGREE WITH YOUR STATEMENT THERE, MAYOR AND I THINK WE CAN GET CLOSER TO THOSE NUMBERS. AND I THINK IT TO SCENARIO PATH WOULD BE A GOOD WAY TO GO THERE DREW AND JUST GET THOSE AND WE CAN DISCUSS THOSE AT A FUTURE MEETING. I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THIS MEASURE. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE OVERALL PROJECT, BUT CALLING THE MEASURE IS FINE BY ME, SENDING IT TO THE VOTERS AS ALWAYS. THE SAFEST FORM OF MAKING A DECISION. ESPECIALLY IN SOMETHING OF THIS SIZE AND SIGNIFICANCE. THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM, BUT I DO THINK THAT IN ORDER FOR THEM TO BE EDUCATED TO MAKE THIS DECISION, IT'S JUST LAW UNFAIR FOR THEM NOT TO HAVE AT LEAST THE FRAMEWORK OF THE AGREEMENT, SO THEY UNDERSTAND AND CAN SEE. WHERE THE RESOURCES ARE. REVENUE WITH. THE NUMBERS ARE IN THE 70% AND SOME KIND OF DOCUMENT. THAT THAT TO ME SHOWING THAT TRANSLATION OF THESE SOURCES OF REVENUES INTO THE STREAM. IS REALLY CRITICAL TO MAKING A DECISION ON THIS BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW TO ASK PEOPLE TO MAKE A DECISION WITHOUT A FULL PICTURE. I CONCUR. ALL RIGHT. SO. AS LONG AS THE VOTERS KNOW THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT A POTENTIAL PROPERTY TAX INCREASED. SUFFICIENT TO MAKE THE PAYMENTS ON PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST. AS LONG AS I KNOW THAT. YEP YOU SAID POTENTIAL PROPERTY TAX INCREASE. YEP.

THAT'S WHY THEY HAVE TO BE ASKED ALRIGHT, SO HAVE WE EXHAUSTED? THIS ONE? IS THERE ANY ACTION

[6.B. VOTE]

YOU WANT TO TAKE? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CALL FOR THE ELECTION. I THOUGHT YOU MIGHT.

ALRIGHT, THERE'S THIS EMOTION IN A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE SPECIAL ELECTION CALL SAY I BYE. POST. FIVE. AND . ONE ALRIGHT. ITEM C. CONSIDER APPROVAL ON SETTING THE DATE FOR

[6.C. Consider approval on setting the date for public hearings for the Fiscal Year 2023-2024 Proposed Tax Rate and Town Budget and set the adopon of the proposed tax rate and budget during the Regular Town Council Meeng on August 24, 2023]

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PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR THE 2023 2024 PROPOSED TAX RATE IN TOWN BUDGET SET THE ADOPTION OF THE PROPOSED TAX RATE AND BUDGET DURING THE REGULAR TOWN COUNCIL MEETING ON AUGUST 24TH. 2023 ALL RIGHT, JOHN. THANK YOU, ERIN COUNCIL. UM SO PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE A PART OF THE TRUTH AND TAXATION PROCESS. UM I KINDA WANNA GO OVER. YOU KNOW HOW WE GOT TO THIS POINT. IF YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN WATCHING THE NEWS HERE LATELY, ONE OF THE THINGS YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN IS CITY OF DALLAS JUST GOT DELIVERED THEIR BUDGETS CITY OF FORT WORTH JUST RECEIVING THEIR BUDGET. HOW WE DO THINGS DIFFERENTLY HERE IS WE , WE MAKE YOU GUYS A PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS FROM THE START.

WE START IN APRIL, WORKING WITH YOU TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU WANT IN THE BUDGET TO CRAFT A BUDGET SO THAT WHENEVER WE GET TO THE STATE, IT'S NOT SOMETHING NEW. YOU'VE SEEN EVERY SINGLE PIECE OF THIS AND SO THAT'S KIND OF HOW WE DIFFER FROM A LOT OF THE MUNICIPALITIES THAT YOU ACTUALLY SEE. I'VE SEEN A LOT OF THEM. REALISTICALLY COUNCIL NEVER GETS A SHOT AT THE BUDGET UNTIL WE GET TO THIS POINT CALLING FOR THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, AND SO THAT MAKES THAT PROCESS. A LOT RISKIER FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO IDEA WHAT'S IN THERE. AND SO WE STARTED APRIL WE GOT YOUR BUNCH OF PRIORITIES. WE WENT IN. MAY WE HAD OUR FIRST WORKSHOP OVER DEPARTMENTAL BUDGET REQUEST. YOU SAW EVERYTHING THAT WAS ON THE TABLE THERE THAT EVERY DEPARTMENT WAS ASKING FOR THAT ON JUNE 22ND. WE AFFIRMED UP OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM AND THEN ON JULY 27TH. WE HAD OUR PROPOSED TAX RATE AND BUDGET WORKSHOP WHERE HE EXPLAINED KIND OF WHERE THE ROLES WERE COMING IN AND WHAT EVERYTHING WAS LOOKING LIKE. AUGUST 1ST PROPOSED BUDGET WAS AVAILABLE, UM ON OUR PUBLIC WEBSITE, OR IT WAS ACTUALLY AVAILABLE FOR REQUEST BY THE PUBLIC, STARTING THE 26TH. AND SO THE FIRST WAS WHEN OUR DIGITAL BUDGET BOOK WENT ONLINE AND LAUNCHED AND SO I THINK THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD THING. SO NOW WE'RE IN AUGUST 10TH AND THIS IS CALLING FOR THE TAX RATE AND BUDGET PUBLIC HEARING. YOU'RE ALSO CALLING FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING ON BOTH OF THE KIDS AS WELL. AND SO THE CUMULATION OF OUR WORK IS SETTING A PUBLIC HEARING DATES SO THAT THE PUBLIC KNOWS WE'RE WANTING TO HEAR YOUR INPUTS REQUIRED MEASURE THROUGH TRUTH AND TAXATION AND THE REASON WHY IT'S REQUIRED SPECIFICALLY THE TAX RATE IS BECAUSE AS WE ARE INCREASING PAST THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE, IF WE'RE BELOW THAT, THEN WE WOULD NOT HAVE TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING. BUT SINCE WE ARE ARE INCREASING THE AMOUNT OF REVENUE THAT IS CONSIDERED A TAX INCREASE TAX RATE INCREASE BUT A TAX INCREASE. AND SO THAT'S HOW WE GOT TO THE STATE. AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE HOLDING THE WE'RE ASKING TO REQUEST FOR YOU TO CALL FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING. UM YOU SHOULD HAVE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE THAT YOU'RE SO YOU THERE AT THE DIOCESE. THAT'S THE SPECIFIC MOTION. THAT'S NEW TO THIS YEAR IN THE BIG REASON WHY IT IS BECAUSE NOW ON THE MEASURE THAT SENT OUT OF THE PUBLIC CALLING FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING, IT SHOWS THAT YOU CALLED FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TAX RATES WERE PROPOSING THIS YEAR, THE TAX RATE OF 29 A HALF CENTS AND WE GOT TO THAT BY YOUR FIRST COUNCIL PRIORITY IS TO MAINTAIN A PROPERTY TAX RATE AT 29.5 SINCE THE LOW TAX RATES ONE OF THE LOWEST AND DIDN'T COUNTY AND STATE OF TEXAS. WE'RE MAINTAINING THE 60 40 SPLIT BETWEEN MAINTENANCE ELABORATION WERE MADE BY MAINTAINING EMPLOYEE COMPENSATION AT THE MARKET LEVEL WITH A 3% COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENTS IN SMALL MARKET ADJUSTMENTS BECAUSE ONE IS TO POLICE PAY. WE'RE INVESTING IN INFRASTRUCTURE. SPECIFICALLY THE SPORTS VENUE YOU JUST HEARD ARE WEST ELEVATED STORAGE TANK SOUTHWEST ELEVATED STORAGE TANK THINK THE CLEVELAND GIVES SOUTH ROAD PROJECT WHICH IS NEW THIS YEAR AND MORE MAINTAIN YOUR CURRENT CUSTOMER SERVICE LEVELS. THE CELLULAR WATER METERS WILL BE FUNDED THROUGH REVENUE BONDS, WHICH WILL BE ISSUED DIRECTLY AGAINST UTILITY REVENUES LOSING SO THOSE WILL PAY FOR THEMSELVES AND THAT'S NOT NEW DEBT ON THE TAX RATE. THE POLICE CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION DIVISION BUILDING LEASE BECAUSE OF THE GROWTH AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WITH THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS, THEY'RE RUNNING OUT OF SPACE. AND SO THIS IS THE WAY THAT WE CAN USE SOME OF THAT ONE TIME CASH TO PAY DOWN AND PUT MONEY DOWN FOR THAT LEASE AND KEEP THEM IN THE SAME BUILDING COMPLEX BECAUSE THIS IS CLOSELY APPROACHING BUILD OUT IN HERE. AND THEN WE'RE NOT PROPOSING ANY NEW PERSONNEL. THE BIGGEST REASON FOR THIS IS BECAUSE REVENUES FOR THE FIRST TIME IN A NUMBER OF YEARS ARE WE'RE SEEING THEM PLATEAU, AND THAT DOESN'T MEAN THERE. THERE. YOU'RE GOING DOWN AT ALL. IT JUST MEANS THAT WHERE I PLAY A POSITIVE, AND SO WE'RE BEING CONSERVATIVE. WE COULD ADD PERSONNEL AND STRUCTURE BUDGET TO THE ABSOLUTE LIMIT AND MAXIMIZE THEIR TAX RATE TO DO THAT. WE'RE NOT PROPOSING TO DO SO. AND SO WE BELIEVE WE'RE MEETING ALL THE COUNCIL GOALS BY DOING THAT. COUNCIL. UM. AND IT'S NOW UP TO YOU WHETHER TO CONSIDER THIS TAX RATES AND CALL FOR A PUBLIC HEARING. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. NICELY DONE. ANY QUESTIONS FOR JOHN TONIGHT?

[6.C. VOTE]

ALRIGHT, SO ANYONE WANT TO TAKE ACTION ON THIS? ALL RIGHT. I MOVED TO APPROVE THE

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CONSIDERATION OF THE PROPOSED 2023 2024 FISCAL YEAR PROPERTY TAX RATE OF 29.5 PER $100 OF ASSESSED VALUATIONS AT THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE PROPOSED BUDGET PROPOSED PROPERTY TAX RATE ON AUGUST 24TH 2023 AT THE 5 30 PM REGULAR MEETING. FOR A SECOND. THE SECOND DISCUSSION. I THINK WE'RE GOOD WITH YOU, JOHN. THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION. OKAY WE'RE ONLY CALLING THE HEARING, SO I KNOW YOU DON'T. YOU'RE NOT SIGNING OFF ON THE BUDGET, BUT WE'RE ASKING PEOPLE TO COME TALK TO US ABOUT IT. SO MOTIONS ON THE TABLE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY, AYE. I PROPOSED. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL TALK AUGUST 24TH SO VERY COUNCIL. THIS ONE DOES NOT HAVE

[6.D. Consider approval on setting a date for public hearings for the Fiscal Year 2023-2024 service and assessment plans of Northlake Public Improvement District No. 1 (Harvest) and Northlake Public Improvement District No. 2 (The Highlands)and set the adopon of the plans duringthe Regular Town Council Meeng on August 24, 2023]

A SPECIFIC LANGUAGE. THIS IS CALLING FOR A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE TWO PITS. ONE IS A FIXED PIN, WHICH IS JUST PAYING THE DEBT THAT IN THE HIGHLANDS AND THE OTHER IS FOR A 29.5 CENT PITTED IN HARVEST THAT PAYS FOR THEIR LANDSCAPING AND MAINTENANCE OPERATIONS AND SPECIFIC TO THEIR DEVELOPMENT. DID THEY REQUEST THAT RIGHT? YES. OKAY? ALL RIGHT. I'LL THROW

[6.D. VOTE]

A MOTION TO APPROVE OUT THERE ON THIS ONE. IS THERE A SECOND? OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION OF SECONDS THERE. ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. HI. ANYONE POST? ALL RIGHT.

VERY GOOD. AUGUST 24TH. IT IS. ALRIGHT ITEM E CONSIDER RESOLUTION TO PURCHASE TRUCK, MR

[6.E. Consider a Resoluon of the Town of Northlake, Texas, approving and authorizing the Town Manager to execute a purchase agreement with Caldwell Country Chevrolet, for a Silverado 1500 Pickup, in an amount not to exceed $51,320]

CORN. SO YOU CAN SEE. WE THINK WE BLEW AN ENGINE AND THE BOOK VALUE IS LESS THAN THE REPAIRS.

THERE IS A TRUCK WE NEED AVAILABLE CALDWELL COUNTY CHEVROLET. UM BUT WE ARE OPEN TO NOW, IF WE CANNOT GO DIRECTLY TO A. A DEALER AND NEGOTIATE PRICE. WE WOULD NEED TO BID THIS. BUT AS LONG AS WE GET THREE BIDS, AND WE COULD TAKE THE LOWEST BID SO MAYBE WHAT WE COULD DO IS IF WE DID THAT, INCLUDING THE COMPANY THAT WAS SUGGESTED, AND WE GET A PRICE LOWER THAN THE BY BOARD. WE CAN. WE CAN DO THAT AND BUY FROM THE LOCAL VENDOR. IF IT MEETS OUR SPECS A LOT OF TIMES WHEN DEALERSHIPS BID BID HIGHER THAN WHAT THEY WOULD NEGOTIATE WITH INDIVIDUAL CUSTOMER. BUT WE'LL SEE WE'LL BE GLAD TO CHECK THAT OUT AND VERIFY THAT SO WE CAN TABLE THIS . WE CAN AUTHORIZE THE PURCHASE AT THROUGH THE BY BOARD, OR WE CAN MAKE IT CONDITIONAL THAT WE GO OUT AND DID THIS AND WE GET A LOWER PRICE WILL USE THE LOWER PRICE OF THE BID. IF WE DON'T GET A LOWER PRICE, WE HAVE THIS THAT WE CAN BUY THIS. THERE IS A VEHICLE READY AND ASSIGNED TO US . SO WE'D LIKE TO MOVE PRETTY QUICK, ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. IS IT THE LAST TIME I LOOKED AT PICKUP TRUCKS, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DOUBLE CABINET APPROVED CABINET APPRECIATE YOU DOING THE RESEARCH. UM IT'S ABOUT 4 TO $5000 IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, SO THAT PUTS US A LOT CLOSER IN NUMBERS. MHM, OKAY? IS THAT WE WILL. WE'LL DEFINITELY DO APPLES TO APPLES, BUT THAT'S ABOUT THE RIGHT. RIGHT. RIGHT. I BELIEVE SO. YES, SIR. WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE BLOWN ENGINE. I MEAN, 94,000 MILES IS NOT A LOT OF MILES. WHAT SHAPE IS THE REST OF THE TRUCK? UH I THINK IT'S FINE . YOU CAN BUY A CRATE ENGINE FOR FIVE OR $6000, AND JUST DROP IT IN. THAT'S ANOTHER OPTION, TOO.

MAN IF YOU HAD 100 AND 94,000, MILES SAY, WE USUALLY ARE PUBLIC WORKS TRUCKS WE USUALLY GET QUITE A BIT MORE MILES OUT OF THEM, UM SO, UM. UM, I'M NOT SURE. YEAH, WE. YEAH. RESTRICTS THE TRANSMISSION TO THE CRIME. SO THERE'S BEEN A PROBLEMATIC TRUCK. WE CAN GET A THAT'S THAT'S THE QUOTE BUT A NEW ENGINE AND 13,000. SO WE'RE GONNA WE'RE GONNA UPGRADE. YEAH.

THIS WAS THIS WAS PLANNED TO BE BOUGHT NEXT YEAR. SO WE'RE JUST AND WE HAVE THE FUNDS AVAILABLE EQUIPMENT FUND. WE WERE JUST TRYING TO WHY WE HAD A, UH, A LOSS OF THE VEHICLE WE WERE GONNA WE'RE GONNA UPGRADE. WE WERE PLANNING TO DO THIS. WE'RE JUST GOING TO DO IT A YEAR EARLIER. BUT AGAIN, UM THIS IS THIS IS OUR PROPOSAL. STATUE PROPOSAL IS TO BUY A TRUCK AHEAD OF TIME. AND RETIRED THE PROBLEMATIC TRUCK BUT WILL BE GLAD TO BID THIS OUT AND GET

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THREE BIDS AND MEET PURCHASING STATE LAW SESSIONS. I DO FEEL IT'S IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT BIDS SPECIALISTS. IT'S BEEN BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION TONIGHT. THANK YOU, MR HARTMAN.

ALSO, MY QUESTION IS, DO WE EVER REPAIR OR PARTNER WITH OTHER CITIES OR COUNTIES AROUND US TO BUY IN BULK MORE? THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT THE BIBLE BOARD BASICALLY DOES. IT'S A SYSTEMATIC APPROACH. AND THEY GET ALL THESE MAJOR VENDORS WE BOUGHT FROM CALDWELL COUNTY BEFORE IT'S KIND OF A COVER ALL THERE'S THE BIBLE BOARD, WHICH PARTNERS WITH ALL CITIES AND SCHOOL DISTRICTS. THERE'S HOUSTON GALVESTON AREA COOPERATIVE THAT WE DO. THERE'S UH, THERE'S A SYSTEM FOR TECHNOLOGY THAT'S RUN BY THE DEPARTMENT OF INFORMATION RESOURCES, SO THERE'S A NUMBER OF THESE AND THERE'S A THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY IN STATE LAW THAT IF SOMEONE IS JUST BID SOMETHING YOU CAN DO IT AND YOU SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE SEEN THIS IN THE PAST, WE CAN DO AN INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH ANOTHER TOWN AND BENEFIT FROM THEIR BIDS. OKAY SO WE'VE USED ALL THESE SOURCES. THIS WAS THE ONE TRUCKS HAVE BEEN HARD TO TRACK DOWN SO THAT WE FOUND ONE AND THEY'RE ON THE BY BOARD. SO WE WERE GONNA GRAB IT. BUT IF WE CAN SAVE IF WE COULD SAY $5000, AND THEY HAVE AN AVAILABLE TRUCK. UH AND THEY AND WE GET WE GET A LEGITIMATE BID FOR IT, THEN I WILL DEFINITELY DO THAT. THANK YOU. THAT'S MY ONE CONCERN THAT THE DOUBLE CABS ARE PLENTIFUL, AND THEY'RE ALL OUT THERE. IF WE ACTUALLY NEED A CREW CAB, THEY ARE VERY HARD TO COME BY RIGHT NOW. AND I THAT IS PART OF THE QUANDARY. I'M SURE WE WILL. WE'LL MOVE VERY FAST. YEAH. WHAT ABOUT TOM FRAME LIKE ? IS THIS SOMETHING IMMEDIATE NEED LIKE A REED BEHIND SHARING TRUCKS? JOBS NOT GETTING DONE. NO I DON'T. I DON'T THINK IT'S DON'T THINK IT'S DIRE NEED, BUT WEEK. WE'LL BE DOWN A TRUCK. ERIC WITH THAT. I MEAN, ONE LEGGED APPROACH RIGHT NOW WE'RE GOING TO. THAT'S RIGHT. I JUST SIGNED A SO WE CAN STILL GET OUR JOB DONE, BUT IT'D BE GREAT IF IT WAS OUR TRUCK INSTEAD OF PAYING A RENTAL FEES. I FORGOT.

IT'S JUST SIGNED THE PAYMENT AUTHORIZATION FOR THAT. YEAH. UNITED RENTALS. YES, SIR. HOW LONG ARE THEY HOLDING THIS FOR US? I DON'T KNOW. HOW LONG ARE THEY HOLDING IT FOR US TO BE TILL DO YOU LIKE? BUT YEAH, YEAH, THAT THAT'S. BEEN WHAT I'VE SEEN OUT THERE. I HATE SPENDING A COUPLE EXTRA $1000 LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT ANOTHER ITEMS HERE, BUT THE GROUP CABS ARE EXCESSIVELY HARD TO COME BY TODAY AND WORK TRUCKS. IT'S YOU GO UP UPDATING THE FORD DEALER WHICH I DON'T LIKE THE FORD DEALER, BUT YEAH, THEY HAVE A MILLION WORK TRUCKS OUT THERE.

NO CREW CAPTAIN. SO THAT'S THAT'S MY CONCERN THERE, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG BEFORE YOU FIND ONE AGAIN A REASONABLE DISTANCE. YEAH. IF YOU HAVE TO BID IT. HOW LONG IS IT GONNA TAKE? JUST OUR RESPONSE OF THE COMPANIES ARE. SO YOU CAN JUST CALL A COUPLE PLACES AND GET BUSY OFFERING? YES YES, BUT YOU JUST HAVE TO CALL HIM ON OUR VOLITION GET AND THAT, JOHN, WE'RE WE'RE OVER. 50,000 WHAT'S OUR BID LAW THERE? ARE WE STILL GOOD? NO WE'LL HAVE TO DO OPPOSED TO BID. OKAY. SO SORRY. CUT THAT ONE OFF, SO YEAH, WE CAN POST IT FOR 49 999. YEAH, UM I THINK IF THAT'S THE CASE WELL , MAYBE WE SHOULD JUST BITE THE BULLET ON THIS ONE AND FOR FUTURE PURCHASES AS IT WAS BROUGHT UP. YEAH. START SHOPPING LOCALLY. HOW MUCH IS OUR RENTAL? UH, YEAH. I DON'T HAVE A TOP OF MY HEAD. REMEMBER ERIC? WHAT'S THAT? 2000, A TRUCK. A MONTH. I AGREE, I THINK WE JUST GO AHEAD AND DO IT AND AGAIN IN THE FUTURE. MAYBE LOOK AROUND THEM WITH LOCALLY, OKAY? RIGHT? WHY ARE WE BUYING CHEVYS INSTEAD OF FORWARDS? BECAUSE THEY'RE BETTER. ROGER. THAT'S WHY I WISH DANNY SIMPSON. WE'RE STILL ON THE COUNCIL. DANNY WOULD STRAIGHTEN THIS ALL OUT THE SHOP . I'LL MAKE A MOTION IF IT'S OKAY WITH THE MAYOR HERE TO

[6.E. VOTE]

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APPROVE THIS. WITH THE CONDITION THAT WE LOOK, LOOK A LITTLE DEEPER IN THE FUTURE. YES SIR.

SERGEANT DON'T HAVE TO HAVE MY APPROVAL TO MAKE THE MOTION, BUT YOU MAY NOT GET MY VOTE. ALL RIGHT. THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE TABLE. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ALL RIGHT. POST. ALL RIGHT. LET'S CANCEL THAT RENTAL AGREEMENT. AT LEAST ONE OF THEM.

[6.F. Consider a Resoluon of Town of Northlake, Texas, direcng Town Staff to apply to the Texas Public Ulity Commission for the Paral Decerficaon of the Town's Cerficate of Convenience and Necessity for Water and Sewer Services for the Areas Currently Cerfied that lie outside the Town's Corporate Limits]

ALL RIGHT. THIS ONE'S FUN. THANK YOU. SO, UM. THIS IS THIS IS A PRETTY BIG DECISION FOR US TO THE TOWN. UNFORTUNATELY IT'S A IT'S A NECESSARY STEP. I THINK. BECAUSE OF WHAT THE LEGISLATURE HAS BEEN DOING SO LEGISLATORS MADE IT EXTREMELY EASY FOR EVERYBODY AROUND THE TOWN TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT. AND SOMETIMES WITHIN A TOWN TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT IN TERMS OF REDUCING OUR POWER TO CONTROL OUR DESTINY. AND SO, UM, THERE ARE NOW. SEVERAL DIFFERENT WAYS THAT DEVELOPERS CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE TOWN UNDER CURRENT LAW. THIS ONE. SIMPLY PUT IF WE MAINTAIN THE C. C. N S OUTSIDE OF OUR TOWN LIMITS WITHIN THE AND WE'RE ESPECIALLY EXPOSED TO THIS ISSUE. THEN AT ANY MOMENT, ANY OF THESE PROPERTY OWNERS WHO DON'T LIKE TO COMPLY WITH WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THOSE AREAS CAN OPT OUT OF THE TOWN Z T. J. THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO TO A VOTE. THEY CAN JUST REQUEST IT AND WALK AWAY. ONCE THEY WALK AWAY. IF WE HOLD THE CCN, THEY CAN COMPEL US TO PROVIDE WATER AND SEWER SERVICE OR SUE US IF WE DON'T PROVIDE IT. IF WE DON'T. IF WE PROVIDE IT, THEY CAN BUILD WHATEVER THEY WANT, BUT THEN THE CAPACITY CONSTRAINTS OF WHATEVER THE SERVICES AVAILABLE. WORST CASE SCENARIO. WE'VE GOT 15 SQUARE MILES OF E. T. J. SCALPER DEVELOPERS CAN COME IN, COMPEL US TO PROVIDE WATER AND SEWERS AND BUILD 15 SQUARE MILES OF APARTMENTS AROUND US. YOU CAN IMAGINE WHAT THAT WOULD DO TO OUR TOWN TO OUR ROADS TO OUR POLICE SYSTEM. WOULD BE COMPELLED TO PROVIDE SERVICES THAT WE NEVER PLANNED FOR. THAT'S THAT'S A PRETTY PRETTY SERIOUS ISSUE FOR US AS A TOWN AND SO WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THIS OR ATTORNEYS HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT THIS TRYING TO FIND WAYS TO HELP TOWNS DEAL WITH THIS ISSUE AND STILL MAINTAIN SOME SEMBLANCE OF CONTROL OVER OUR OWN DESTINY. AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE COMPELLED TO DO THINGS THAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO.

ONE OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES IS FOR US. TO GET OUT OF THE CCN BUSINESS OUTSIDE OF TOWN LIMITS AND PROVIDED ONLY UPON NEGOTIATION WITH AN APPROPRIATE DEVELOPMENT. SO THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ABOUT TONIGHT AND I'LL LET HER STAFF EXPANDING THIS LITTLE BIT MORE. BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT THE POSSIBILITY OF REQUESTING TO SUSPEND OUR C CNS OUTSIDE OF OUR TOWN LIMITS. AND THEN IF FOLKS DEVELOPING OUTSIDER, TIM LIMITS WANT TO COME INTO THE TOWN, WE CAN PROVIDE WATER AND SEWER BY NEGOTIATED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. THAT'S THE THAT'S KIND OF THE PATH TO OUR FUTURE THAT WE'VE WE'VE SORT OF. ENVISIONED FOR OURSELVES FOR OUR AREA. AND ALSO FOR THE APPROPRIATE LEVEL OF DEVELOPMENT THAT ALLOWS US TO BUILD THE TOWN OUT WITHOUT BEING OVERBURDENED.

UM, RIGHT ON OUR BORDERS. BECAUSE WE DO HAVE. WE DO HAVE TO RESPOND FROM POLICE SERVICE STANDPOINT, THERE'S NOT ANOTHER AGENCY OUT THERE. WE WILL BE CALLED UPON. AND THEN THINGS THAT HAPPENED RIGHT OUTSIDE OUR TOWN LIMITS AND IN SOME CASES, RIGHT IN OUR TOWN IN THE SENSE THAT WE HAVE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE TOWN, THEY DON'T PAY TAXES, BUT THERE HAVE TO USE ROADS OR ROADS TO GET TO THEIR PROPERTIES, AND WE ARE COMPELLED TO PROVIDE POLICE SERVICES. AND SO WE'RE ALREADY STUCK WITH SOME OF THAT DEVELOPMENT HAPPENING OUTSIDE OF OUR CONTROL. SO THIS IS A PRETTY PRETTY MAJOR STEP. IT'S ONE THAT'S UM ARE LAWYERS FIRM HAS BEEN ADVISING SOME OTHER TOWNS. WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS ON THIS AND WE'RE AT THE POINT WHERE WE HAVE TO MOVE PRETTY QUICKLY ON THIS, AND SO WE NEED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION AND DECIDE WHETHER THIS IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE FUTURE OF OUR TOWN. BUT, UM IT'S A PRETTY IT'S A PRETTY SERIOUS THING. IF YOU PROVIDE SEWER SERVICES ANYWHERE IN THE T. J YOU CAN PRETTY MUCH GUARANTEE THEY'VE GOT A PATH TO BUILDING PRETTY HIGH DENSITY PRETTY MUCH ANYWHERE THEY WANT. AND SO WE'RE IN WATER AS WELL. DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH LAND THEY HAVE GOT ROOM FOR A THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT.

UM THEY CAN BUILD AN AWFUL LOT ON PROPERTY REALLY FAST, AND WE WOULDN'T HAVE A SAY IN THE MATTER. SO WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO I THINK WE'VE WE'VE DONE A DECENT JOB IN OUR TOWN'S HISTORY OF BALANCING BETWEEN PROPERTY RIGHTS AND DEVELOPMENT. UM AND THERE'S ALWAYS PROJECTS ALONG THE WAY THAT HAVE BEEN HIGHLY CONTENTIOUS AND NOT TRYING TO LET IT RELITIGATE PROJECTS THAT

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HAVE HAPPENED THAT ONE SIDE OF THE LINE OF THE OTHER TOO MUCH DEVELOPMENT. TOO LITTLE DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE. THE ISSUE IS DO WE WISH TO CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN SOME SOMEONE'S HAVE CONTROL OVER THE AREA IN WHICH WE LIVE? AND RESPONSIBLY, PROVIDE AND PREPARE FOR WATER AND SEWER SERVICES FOR THOSE THAT MIGHT WANT IT. UH AH. AND SO THAT'S THE KIND OF THE PHILOSOPHICAL OVER YOU OF WHERE WE'RE AT. AND SO I'LL LIKE TO ASHLEY. I'D LIKE YOU TO WEIGH IN FOR A SECOND AND JUST GIVE US HOW YOU CAME UP WITH THIS APPROACH AND WHO ELSE IS USING IT AND ANY RAMIFICATIONS FOR US THAT WE NEED TO BE AWARE OF MR CORN YOU CAN WEIGH IN AS WELL.

IF YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS FOR THIS. YEAH. WE, UM . FRANKLY WITH THE LATEST SESSION OF THE LEGISLATURE. IT'S REALLY ABOUT HOW CAN WE LEVERAGE ANY CONTROL? UM. BUT YOU'VE BEEN STRIPPED OF ALMOST ALL YOUR CONTROL. YOU HAVE AND THIS IS REALLY SORT OF THE LAST PIECE THAT WE CAN CONTROL. UM AND REQUIRE, UM. EITHER ANNEXATION. OR MAYBE MAYBE NOT EVEN ANNEXATION. BUT WE WERE WE REQUIRE THEM TO AT LEAST COME TALK TO US COMPLY. BEFORE THEY ASK US FOR SOMETHING. UM WITHOUT THIS. YOU'RE REQUIRED TO GIVE TO PROVIDE THEM TO OUR WATER. NOW THIS ALLOWS YOU THAT THAT LEVERAGE TO SAY, YOU KNOW WE'LL SUPPLY YOU. WATER IF YOU DO, X Y Z, UM AND THIS IS REALLY ALL YOU'VE GOT LEFT TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT OUTSIDE YOUR CITY LIMITS YOUR TOWN LIMITS. YOU ASKED. WHO ELSE IS DOING THIS? OUR OFFICE HELPED WEATHERFORD WITH THIS.

WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF HELPING BURROWS. AND WITH THIS UM, FOLLOWING THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION. WE'VE HAD INTEREST FROM FROM ANOTHER A NUMBER OF OTHER CLIENTS. I THINK CLEVELAND'S LOOKING AT IT. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THEY'LL DO IT OR NOT. UM AND I SAID PRELIMINARY TALKS WITH A NUMBER OF OTHER CLIENTS, BUT WHETHER HEARD FOR SURE HAS DONE IT. THEY'VE APPLIED TO THE T TWO C P U C, UM AND LESSONS IN THE PROCESS OF DOING IT AS WELL. PERSONALLY I DON'T THINK IT'S A VERY DIFFICULT DECISION BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE STUCK WITH THIS DECISION AND WE BETTER DO IT.

RAMIFICATIONS. BIG STEP. WHAT RAMIFICATIONS? CAN WE EXPECT? WHAT IS THE PROCESS LOOK LIKE? WHAT IS T C Q RESPONSE TO THIS BEN PUC PUBLIC UTILITY COMMISSION. UM AND WHETHER, FOR EXAMPLE, FINISHED RIGHT. RIGHT. SO WE DON'T EVEN KNOW THIS IS GONNA WORK BECAUSE BC HASN'T DECIDED YET, BUT IT IS AN AVENUE. IT IS AWAY. AND THIS IS THE THIS IS PURELY A POLICY DECISION. WE'VE GOT TO HAVE A LOT OF STEPS. PASS THIS, BUT ONCE YOU TELL US TO GO, WILL START WITH HALF ASSOCIATES JUST HALF NOW, RIGHT? OKAY, JUST HALF . IS GOING TO HELP US FOR HAVE CREATE A LOT OF MAPS. WE'RE GONNA WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO SIT IN A LOT OF HEARINGS WITH PUBLIC UTILITY COMMISSION. TO DECERTIFY THIS IN THE PAST, THEY NORMALLY DON'T THESE ALLOW THE CERTIFICATION. BUT WITH THE CHANGES IN STATE LAW, THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO ARGUE THAT IT IT IS PUTTING A BURDEN ON THE TOWN. SO UM YEAH, THAT'S. THAT'S ONE AVENUE THAT WE'VE FOUND AND IN DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'VE HAD WITH OUR ATTORNEY TO ONE OF THE ONLY ONES LEFT. WE'LL BRING UP A POINT THAT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION. SO WHAT ABOUT PROPERTIES THAT ARE IN THE THAT CURRENTLY GETS SERVICE THOSE THAT ARE ON THE WAY TO GETTING SERVICE? CAN WE DO CARVE OUTS? YES OKAY. ALL RIGHT, SO THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE DO HAVE SOME DEVELOPMENT. AND WE WOULDN'T YOU KNOW, I THINK WE COULD GET IN BIG TROUBLE FROM ACTUALLY FROM THE T. C. Q. HAVE WE CUT WATER OFF FROM A FROM HABITABLE STRUCTURES. WE WOULDN'T DO THAT IF WE HAVE A LIKE YOU SAID A PRE EXISTING AGREEMENT PRE EXISTING CUSTOMER OR WE'RE PRETTY CLOSE. THIS WILL BE JUST ANOTHER TOOL IN OUR TOOL BELT ON NEGOTIATING. WITH DEVELOPERS, SO THE PROCESS IS YOU DEVELOP SOME MAPS VALIDATE THIS MAPS AS TO WHAT THE MAPS WOULD BE THE AREAS THAT BE DECERTIFIED. AND WE DID NEED TO BE SOMEWHAT STRATEGIC ABOUT THAT, DEPENDING ON WHERE WE MIGHT WANT TO RETAIN IT VERSUS NOT FURTHER OUT, PROBABLY MORE SO THAN CLOSER IN, UM DEPENDING ON WHAT'S GOING ON IN THOSE AREAS, BUT WE ONCE WE APPLY. IT'S UP TO THE PUC IF THE PUC SAYS YES. DO WE HAVE AN EXIT RAMP? IF WE DECIDE I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. AFTER ALL, ONCE THEY

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APPROVE IT, DO WE HAVE TO ACCEPT IT TO ENACT IT OR IS IT DONE? IT'S DONE. ONCE YOU APPLY. YOU ASKED THEM FOR IT, AND THEY BLESS IT, THEN IT'S IT HAPPENS. OKAY BUT CCN AT THAT POINT, AND AS WE NEGOTIATE WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER DEVELOPER WE BRING THEM BACK IN. YES. OKAY? THE KEY IS THAT THIS IS A POLICY DECISION. IT'S OUR BASE POLICY THAT WE WILL NOT BE PROVIDING SERVICES OUTSIDE OF THE TOWN LIMITS. YOU CAN NEGOTIATE WITH US THE CORRECT AND THAT'S REALLY THE CRUX AND ALL AND THEY CAN NEGOTIATE WITH OTHER WATER INSURANCE PROVIDERS ON OUR PERIPHERY. UM AND THE. CURRENT WEATHERFORD PROCESS. IT'S BEEN MONTHS, RIGHT. THIS IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN OVERNIGHT, HAD THEY HAD SOMEONE INTERVENE. UM. A DEVELOPER THAT YOU GUYS ARE FAMILIAR WITH. SO, BUT HE'S BEEN SILENT, SO WE'RE ANTICIPATING THAT IT IT'LL BE SIGNED OFF FAIRLY SOON NOW. UM BUT THAT'S WHY THAT THAT WAS EXTENDED. ONE THING I THINK YOU ASKED ME OR ABOUT RAMIFICATIONS. UM THE AND THIS IS SORT OF TANGENTIALLY RAMIFICATION. THE PROCESS DOES REQUIRE NOTICE TO BE SENT TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS. SO YOU GUYS IN PARTICULAR MAY GET SOME PHONE CALLS. YOU MAY HAVE SOME PEOPLE SHOW UP TO COUNCIL MEETINGS BECAUSE THAT IS PART OF THE PROCESS. PART OF THE MAP AT YOU KNOW, AT THE OUTSET THAT WE'VE GOT TO GOT TO SATISFY THOSE CHECK THOSE BOXES TO SEND NOTICES SO LIKELY YOU'LL GET GET SOME CALLS. I WOULD I WOULD EXPECT. WE HAVE LINES UP INTO SOME EARLIER AREAS OF NEAR STARDUST, FOR INSTANCE, WE HAVE THOUGHTS OF EXTENDING THOSE SERVICES FURTHER NORTH, AND CONVERSATIONS FROM TIME TO TIME MAY STILL BE WORKING ON THOSE IF WE'RE PASSING PROPERTIES THAT ARE IN THE TJ CAN THEY COMPEL US TO ACCESS OUR SYSTEM SINCE IT'S THERE? NOT IF THERE'S NOT A CCN. IF YOU HAVE THE CCN, YES. OKAY, COMPEL YOU AND AS SOON AS WE SUBMIT THE PC THE WITH PC STILL COMPEL US OR WOULD THEY SAY THAT SINCE YOU'VE GOT AN ONGOING CASE ARGUE NO, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS WHERE YOU KNOW WE'RE MODIFYING IT. IT WILL GET PRELIMINARY ORDERS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT. SO AND WE CHANGED POLICIES HERE IF WE'RE INFORMED BEFORE WE ACTUALLY FILE WITH THE PC, GET OUR MAPS READY, AND THERE'S YOU KNOW AN EXIT RAMP SOMEWHERE AND WE GET MORE INFORMATION THAT WOULD HELP US IN THIS PROCESS. I HAVE HAD SOME PRELIMINARY CONVERSATIONS WITH SOME STATE REPS ABOUT THIS AND THE THANKS THAT IS CAUSING AND THE FRUSTRATION IS CAUSING THEY'RE AWARE OF IT. I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY REALLY KNOW WHAT TO DO ABOUT IT, SO WE NEED TO GET A LITTLE FURTHER IN THE PROCESS TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO ASK FOR IF THERE'S ANY CHANGES TO BE MADE IN THIS, BUT IT WOULDN'T BE UNTIL THE NEXT BIENNIUM. SO THAT'S A LONG WAYS OUT. WE HAVE TO MAKE AND RESPOND TO WHAT THEY HAVE DONE. NOW. AND THEN WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO AND ANY YEARS FUTURE IF THEY DECIDE TO CHANGE THEIR POLICY. BUT WE DO HAVE SOME TIME. I THINK WE HAVE AN EXIT RAMP HERE TO CHANGE POLICY BACK BEFORE WE SUBMIT THIS, BUT THIS SETS IN MOTION THE STAFF TIME AND ENERGY TO GET THIS READY. I WOULD JUST ASK THAT BEFORE WE GO COME BACK TO US BEFORE WE ACTUALLY GO AND FILE THIS. UM, WE CAN KEEP A AN ONGOING ITEM TO DISCUSS WITH LEGAL COUNSEL ON THIS. LET'S JUST MAKE SURE THAT IF ANYTHING ELSE COMES UP, WE WANT TO BE ADVISED. AS TO HOW THIS PROCESS IS GOING TO KEEP US INFORMED SO WE CAN MAKE A YOU KNOW I GO. NO, GO DECISION RIGHT BEFORE WE SUBMIT THIS, OF COURSE. OKAY. RIGHT? ALRIGHT COUNSELOR WANTED TO TAKE A LITTLE TIME THERE JUST

[6.F. VOTE]

TO TALK THROUGH OF HAVE ASKED A LOT OF THESE QUESTIONS OF OUR STAFF ALREADY ABOUT THIS AND OUR ATTORNEY, BUT WE NEEDED TO GET IT OUT THERE SO THAT WE, YOU KNOW YOU ARE HEARING THE SAME THING. I'M HEARING IT MAY MAY ALREADY BEEN LEANING THAT WAY, BUT THANK YOU FOR INDULGING ME TO PUT IT OUT THERE WITH A FEW MORE QUESTIONS. SO IT'S OPEN FOR YOUR ACTION. MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE POLICY CHANGE, OKAY? SECOND THE MOTION AND THE SECOND. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ALRIGHT, ANY OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, UNANIMOUS.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. IT IS 7 34 PM AT THIS TIME PURSUANT TO SECTION 551071551072. AND

[7. EXECUTIVESESSION]

551.074 CONVENIENT TO EXECUTIVE AND DOT AND FIVE BY 1.087. WE'RE GOING TO CONVENE AN EXECUTIVE

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SESSION TO DISCUSS THE PROJECTS ON THE AGENDA. WE HAVE A RECONVENE ACTION. IS THERE ANYTHING WE NEED TO TAKE TONIGHT? OKAY WE DON'T NOT PLAN TO TAKE ANY ACTION TONIGHT AFTER WE RETURN, BUT ALWAYS RESERVE THE RIGHT TO DO SO. AND THE NEED BUT AT THIS POINT, WE DON'T SEE ANYTHING. THIS TIME, SO 7 35 PM NOW WE DON'T SEE YOU ON THE FLIP SIDE. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND ATTENTION. HAVE A GOOD EVENING. BE SAFE OUT THERE. MHM. HEY, WE MAY HAVE AN ACTION TO DIRECT ME. UM A LOT TO DO TO NEGOTIATE A AMENDMENT TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. OKAY WE MAY HAVE AN ITEM IS THERE IS THERE A PARTICULAR ITEM ON THE AGENDA THAT YOU CAN POINT ME TO THAT? WE MAY HAVE AN ACTION ITEM ON THAT. OH, NINE MONTHS. YEAH SO UNDER SECTION A ITEM NINE AGREEMENT POTENTIAL AMENDMENT TO OUR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH CREEK MEADOWS WEST SO YOU CAN CHECK US OUT ONLINE IF YOU DON'T WANT TO WAIT, BUT OTHERWISE WE'LL SEE YOU WHEN WE COME BACK. THANK YOU. OKAY? ALRIGHT IT IS 8 48 PM WE

[8.A. The Town Council will reconvene into Open Session for possible action resultingfrom any items posted and legally discussed or deliberated in Executive Session.]

RETURNED FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION . WE HAVE ONE ITEM TO TAKE UP TONIGHT. THIS IS EXECUTIVE SESSION AGENDA A UM, NUMBER NINE. POTENTIAL AMENDMENT TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH GREEK MEADOWS WEST. IS THERE A MOTION TO CONSIDER ACTION OUTLINED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION? I MAKE A MOTION TO ALLOW THE CHANGES TO DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT PURSUANT TO DISCUSSIONS. INSTRUCTIONS GIVEN BY COUNCIL TO AUTHORIZE JUDITH AUTHORIZING DREW'S ON THAT OH, I SECOND THE MOTION. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE ITEM? OKAY, LET'S TAKE A VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE AS THE MOTION SAY. AYE, AYE. ANY OPPOSED. ALL RIGHT. IT IS 8 49 PM AND WE ARE OUT OF AGENDA AND SO THEREFORE, BY GENERAL CONSENT, WE WILL ADJOURN. THANK YOU. WE'RE DOING. WE'RE

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