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GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IT'S 5:30 P.M. THIS IS THE REGULAR TOWN COUNCIL.

[ 1. CALL TO ORDER]

MANY OF THE NORTH LAKE TOWN COUNCIL SEPTEMBER 14TH. WE'LL CALL THE ROLL. COUNSELORS ARE PRESENT AND WE'LL GET STARTED TONIGHT WITH AN INDICATION AS OUR USUAL PROCESS. HAVE PASTOR HERE FROM THE WELL. CHURCH, PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF. AND HOPE AND PRAYER. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS KELLY HARMON FROM THE WHEEL CHURCH. PREPARED TONIGHT COMES FROM THE 27TH PSALM. TO PRAY WITH ME. HERO LORD WHEN I CRY ALOUD, BE GRACIOUS TO ME AND ANSWER ME. YOU HAVE SAID, SEEK MY FACE THE HEARTS OF YOUR PEOPLE SAY TO YOU, YOUR FACE. LORD, DO I SEEK EMMANUEL THE NEAREST TODAY THAT WE MIGHT ADORE YOU. WE ASK THAT YOU OPEN OUR EARS SO THAT WE MIGHT HEAR YOUR VOICE. OPEN OUR MINDS THAT WE MIGHT RECEIVE YOUR ETERNAL WISDOM. OPEN OUR SPIRITS SO THAT WE MAY KNOW YOU'RE LEADING IN GRACE. OPEN OUR HEARTS SO THAT WE MAY RECEIVE YOUR WONDERFUL LOVE IN CHRIST NAME. WE PRAY. AMEN. STAND FOR PLEDGES.

LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.

TESTING IS THAT BETTER? WE'RE GOOD. ALL RIGHT. THERE'S SOMETHING UP IN THE, UM THIS IS KIND OF IN THEIR ANNOUNCEMENTS WERE HITTING, UM, PRETTY BUSY SEASON. I WANTED COUNCIL MEMBERS TO AND THE PUBLIC TO SEE WHAT'S AHEAD OF US. GET YOUR PHONES OUT, OR WE'LL SEND A PICTURE WILL SEND. THIS WILL BE UPLOADED TO THE WEBSITE TOMORROW, SO A LOT OF ACTIVITY GOING ON, UH ROGER AND I DISCUSSED FOOTBALL SEASON SO A LOT OF GAMES WE'VE GOT TO GET TO, SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE ALL YOUR SCHEDULES ARE HERE. WE HAVE A COUPLE OF OFF SITE. ACTIVITIES OUR SECOND MEETING IN OCTOBER WILL HAVE A JOINT MEETING. WITH PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION TO GO OVER, UH , FINAL DRAFT OF THE COM PLAN. THEN WE HAVE OUR BIANNUAL STRATEGIC PLAN RETREAT. THE BOTH HOLES WILL BE AT THE OUTDOOR LEARNING CENTER. WE GOT TO A GENERAL ELECTION COMING UP AND WE HOST GENERAL ELECTIONS IN NOVEMBER AND MAY SO UH, LIKE GOING ON WE THREW IN SOME OF OUR OTHER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS ON THERE AS WELL. SO THANK YOU, SIR . ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. JUST BY VIRTUE OF OUR SCHEDULED TONIGHT AND THOSE WHO ARE HERE IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TONIGHT AT PUBLIC INPUT OR PUBLIC COMMENT, IT'S YOUR FIRST TIME WITH US AND YOU'RE INTENDING TO SPEAK ON ANY TOPIC. I JUST NEED YOU TO FILL OUT A CARD IN THE BACK AND TURN IT INTO ONE OF THE STAFF OVER HERE SO WE CAN CALL YOU AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME, BECAUSE THAT'S COMING UP PRETTY QUICKLY. I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT SO THAT YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY. IF YOU DON'T GET THE CARD FILLED OUT IN TIME, I STILL CALL FOR ANYONE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK AND YOU CAN WAVE AT ME. JUST APPRECIATE YOU FILL OUT A CARD AND LEAVE IT WITH THE STAFF. BEFORE YOU LEAVE. SO PUBLIC INPUT WILL BE COMING UP RIGHT AFTER THIS FIRST BRIEFING THAT WE HAVE, SO IT'LL BE HERE IN

[2.A. Briefing Hotel Occupancy Tax Uses]

JUST A COUPLE MINUTES. AND I'VE GOT ONE AT THE MOMENT. BUT IF YOU'RE PLANNING TO TALK, THEN JUST ASK YOU TO GET THAT THOSE CARDS FILLED OUT. OKAY MR CORN. GIVE US A BRIEFING ON THE HOT TAX. YES SIR. SO AT OUR SPECIAL MEETING, WE WENT THROUGH THAT PRETTY QUICK AND THERE WAS SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED TO THE EXTRA 2% ON THE BRIBER TAX AND JOHN'S GOING TO TAKE US THROUGH THIS KIND OF STEP BY STEP. WHAT HAPPENED? WHAT CHANGED AND GO THROUGH A CALENDAR OF EVENTS. MAKE SURE WE GET EVERYBODY ON PAGE AND SHOW IT SHOW YOU ARE ARE ARE KIND OF OUR BACKUP PLAN OR ARE REDO OF THE PLAN AND GET US BACK ON TRACK. THANK YOU, JOHN. GOOD EVENING, MARY COUNCIL, SO I WANT TO TAKE YOU KIND OF AN OVERVIEW OF HOW WE GOT HERE. AND SO IN NOVEMBER, WE CALLED FOR AN ELECTION FOR FOUR FOR $45 MILLION IN GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS TO BE APPROVED BY THE PUBLIC FOR SPORTS VENUE. WE'RE GOING TO BE GUARANTEEING THAT DEBTS WITH PROPERTY TAXES, MEANING WE'RE BACKING IT WITH IT. THAT DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEAN WE'RE PAYING IT. WE'RE JUST GUARANTEEING IT SO THAT WE CAN MAINTAIN A LOW INTEREST RATE.

THIS INTEREST RATE WILL SAVE US ROUGHLY 200 BASIS POINTS OR $800,000 A YEAR OR $22 MILLION IN TOTAL. BY UTILIZING GENERAL OBLIGATION AND TO FINANCE SPORTS MEETING TO TOWN. UM LOST AVAILABILITY TO USE THE ADDITIONAL 2% PRIMER HOT TAX AND I'LL EXPLAIN HOW WE KIND OF GOT TO THAT. SO IN FEBRUARY, WHEN THEY CALLED FOR THE SPORTS VENUE ELECTION. UM WE HAVE BEEN HELD

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THE ELECTION IN MAY. IT WAS APPROVED BY 68% AND THEN IN JUNE, THE GOVERNOR BASICALLY SIGNED HB 40 82, AND IT ELIMINATED THE SPORTS VENUE AS A PUBLIC WORKS, WHICH CHANGED OUR ABILITY TO ACTUALLY USE THOSE CEOS WITHOUT AN ELECTION. SO BECAUSE THIS WAS GOING TO AFFECT SEPTEMBER 1ST. WE WENT OUT AND PUT OUR NOTICE OUT TO HIM TO ISSUE CEOS. BY SEPTEMBER 1ST DEADLINE, THE A G MADE THEIR FIRST DENIAL AND SAID, WELL, WE KNOW, BUT CEOS CANNOT BE USED THIS WAY FOR THIS, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS GOING INTO EFFECT IN SEPTEMBER, AND ONE OF THE REASONS WAS BECAUSE THE INITIAL BALLOT LANGUAGE AND HOW THAT WAS WRITTEN. SO IN AUGUST, 10TH. WE CALLED FOR THE BOND ELECTION ON THE 16TH. WE HAD A POLARITY DETAIL, SAYING THE ORDINANCE, AS IT WAS WRITTEN WOULD NOT BE APPROVED. AND SO WE DID REVISE AND RESTATED ORDINANCE CLARIFYING THE GEO BONDS ON AUGUST 21ST, WHICH CALLED FOR THE ELECTION. IT'S A LOT OF STEPS RIGHT THERE. SO WHAT CHANGED OVER THE LIFE OF THIS? THEY KIND OF LEAD FROM US GOING FROM CSD GEOS. SO THE THIRD FUND RATES IN THE PAST TWO YEARS WE'VE GONE FROM 0% TO 5% INTEREST. UM AND THIS IS REALLY, REALLY SPREAD OUT THE INTEREST SPECIFICALLY ON WHAT WE DO IS TAX BACK VERSUS PRIVATE PLACEMENT. AND SO A YEAR AGO WHEN WE WERE CONSIDERING THIS AND PASSING ORDINANCE THAT SPREAD WOULD HAVE BEEN MAYBE 25 BASIS POINTS. NOW IT'S 200. SO THAT MADE THIS PROJECT ADDED SO MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE TO IT, SO IT MADE IT TO WHERE GOS WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO BE WHAT WE NEEDED TO GO WITH TO BE ABLE TO SAVE MONEY AND BE ABLE TO ESTABLISH THE PROJECTS. OTHER THINGS. THAT CHANGE WAS THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE PASSING THAT BILL, WHICH EXEMPTED SPORTS VENUES. SO WE CAN'T USE THIS IS BECAUSE THE ELECTION THAT WE USED WAS UNDER CHAPTER 33 34 THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, AND IT WAS CALLED THE BRYMER BILL.

FUNNY ENOUGH TO ACTUALLY WORK FOR THE CENTER. HOUSE REPRESENTATIVES STATE. REP REPRESENTATIVE IF BRIBER MCQUINN AND HE PASSED THIS BILL, AND IT'S BEEN VERY, VERY SUCCESSFUL ACROSS THE STATE, BUT ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS THAT IT DOES NOT ALLOW YOU TO DO IS ISSUE GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS. AND SO WHENEVER WE INITIATED THIS A YEAR AGO, WE WERE INTENDED TO USE CEOS AND THEN THE GOVERNOR CHANGED THE RULES, AND THEN THE STARTED ENFORCING THE RULES BEFORE IT WENT INTO PLACE. AND SO BY ISSUING GENERAL OBLIGATION WE FORFEITED THE ADDITIONAL 2% HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX SPECIFICALLY FOR THE SPORTS VENUE, BUT WE HAVE A SOLUTION. SO OUR PLAN MOVING FORWARD IS THE TOWN CURRENTLY COLLECTS AROUND 7% HOTEL MISSING TEXT RIGHT NOW. 5% OF THAT WILL BE UTILIZED FOR THE HOTEL CONFERENCE CENTER OR ESTIMATING THAT 5% WILL YIELD US ROUGHLY $470,000 IN REVENUE ARE ESTIMATED DEBT SERVICE PAYMENT IS ROUGHLY $370,000. AND THAT'S AFTER WE USE A LITTLE BIT OF FUN BALANCE IN THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY FUND TO PAY DOWN THE FIRST PRINCIPLE THAT PAYMENT AND THAT WILL LOWER THAT DEBT PAYMENTS SO THAT WE CAN MEET IT WITHIN THAT 5. IT WAS ALWAYS OUR PLAN TO ACTUALLY PAY DOWN. IT WAS WHETHER A QUESTION OF HOW MUCH THIS PUTS US IN A PLACE WHERE WE'RE STILL WE HAVE STILL $100,000 A ROOM WITHIN THE 5. SO THE FINAL 2% WILL BE MOVED TOWARDS A SPORTS VENUE, GIVING US THAT 2% REVENUE THAT WE INITIALLY STATED TO THE VOTERS THAT WE DO, AND SO THIS WILL NOT NET LOSSES, ANYTHING ON OPERATIONS, BUT THE ADDITIONAL 2% WE WOULD NOT RECEIVE SO WE WOULD HAVE BEEN COLLECTING NINE NOW WE'RE GOING TO COLLECT SEVEN WE STILL HAD WIGGLE WORKING WITHIN THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY FUNDED FUND BOTH OF THESE PROJECTS. SO IF WE EVER DO WANT TO GO AFTER THAT, BRYMER, PART OF THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX AGAIN , YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO IT FOR THE HOTEL CONFERENCE CENTER.

HER WE WOULD JUST NEED TO DO THAT, PROBABLY DURING THE MAY ELECTION THIS NEXT YEAR THERE AND YOU'RE NOT ASKING THE VOTERS FOR MORE MONEY FROM SPECIFICALLY THEIR POCKETBOOKS. IT'S JUST ANYONE WHO STAYS IN OUR HOTELS ELSE WOULD RECHARGE THE ADDITIONAL 2. AND THAT COULD GO FIND YOUR HOTEL CONFERENCE CENTER. WHICH COULD LEAD TO YOU PAYING THAT OFF AND 10 YEARS VERSUS 20 YEARS AND SO HE COULD SAVE YOU A LOT OF INTERESTING AT THAT TIME, BUT THIS IS FOR LACK OF BETTER TERM ICING ON THE CAKE, BUT IT GIVES YOU THE OPTION. IF YOU WANT TO GO OUT FOR MORE REVENUE FOR THIS, YOU COULD DO THAT AND FIND THE CONFERENCE CENTER QUICKER AND TURN THAT DEBT SERVICE AROUND QUICKER. AMERICANS DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I APOLOGIZE. THAT WAS A LOT AND WE WERE TRYING TO WORK ON THE ORGANS TO GET PAST THE GEO ORDINANCE. AND SO THIS THIS WAS A DEEPER DIVE INTO THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OUR BILL AND THEN KIND OF WHAT LED US TO THIS POINT AND NOT BEING ABLE TO UTILIZE THAT 2% THE ADDITIONAL 2. I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

THAT'S AS I UNDERSTOOD IT. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT SUMMARY. I THINK IT WAS A GOOD JOB. MHM.

TAKE HIM. ALRIGHT AS PROMISED. WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT UP PRETTY EARLY TONIGHT. I'LL TAKE THE

[3. PUBLIC INPUT]

CARDS IN ORDER AS I GET THEM. I'VE GOT ONE IN HAND AND I THINK A FEW MORE ON THE WAY. VERY GOOD. MR JOSH BOZZUTO, COME ON DOWN. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. MY NAME IS JOSH BRAZIL.

I SENT AN EMAIL EARLIER TODAY. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO COME AND PUT MY FACE TO THE NAME MY ADDRESS.

[00:10:01]

I LIVE AT 13 33 FLANAGAN FARM DRIVE, AND NORTHLAKE. I'M HERE BECAUSE I HAVE APPLIED TO BE ON THE P AND G COMMITTEE AND JOIN IN THAT EFFORT. AND THE REASON WHY I LIKE I FIND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I'M PASSIONATE ABOUT AND WOULD LIKE TO DO IS MY STORY IS WE MOVED TO THIS AREA IN NORTH LAKE ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO AND TO ARGYLL, ABOUT FIVE OR SIX AND YOU KNOW DURING THAT TIME WE ACTUALLY YOU KNOW, IT WAS INTERESTING AS THE TOWN IS GROWING. WE WE FOUND THAT IT WAS TOUGH TO PERSONALLY YOU KNOW, WHEN WE MOVED IN, LIKE ORDER PIZZA, FOR EXAMPLE, THERE WEREN'T A LOT OF OPTIONS. AND SO I AM THE LOCAL SMALL BUSINESS OWNER OF PAPA JOHN'S HERE IN NORTHLAKE, MY WIFE AND I STARTED THAT AND AS WE STARTED DOING THAT PROCESS, WE LEARNED IT WAS REALLY HARD TO DEVELOP AND GET SOMETHING AND BUILT BUILT THROUGH THAT PROCESS. BUT WE FOUND IT REALLY EASY AND WE'RE HAPPY TO WORK WITH NORTH LAKE SO UH UM. AND ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS THAT WE'RE SEEING THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND LEARNING WITH NORTH LAKE IS THAT THE TOWN HAS TAKEN A VERY INTENTIONAL, UM, AND RESPONSIBLE APPROACH TO GROWTH IN THE TOWN AND ALSO WORKED TO NOT, YOU KNOW, AS MANY TOWNS SURROUNDING HERE HAVE TRIED TO STOP AND IMPEDE GROWTH . NORTHLAKE SEEMS TO BE DOING A VERY INTELLIGENT AND LIKE I SAID , INTENTIONAL APPROACH TO THAT GROWTH. AND SO UM. I REALLY ENJOYED THAT SIDE OF IT. I LOVE THE SMALL TOWN FEEL AND THE CULTURE THAT NORTHLAKE HAS, BUT ALSO ALLOWING DIFFERENT AREAS TO GROW WITH THE PEOPLE WITH THE TOWN AS NORTH BECAUSE, AS YOU KNOW, A VERY LARGE AREA AND SO BEING ABLE TO BRING DIFFERENT PIECES LIKE THIS SPORTS COMPLEX OR SOME OF THESE DIFFERENT BUSINESSES AND SMALL BUSINESSES.

AS WELL AS MAINTAINING THE SMALL TOWN AND RESIDENTIAL AREAS OF THE TOWN IS VERY IMPORTANT. AND I LOVE THAT THE WAY THAT THE TOWN CONTINUES TO DO THAT. SO THANK YOU. MS CARLIN. SORRY, MISS GODWIN. HELLO I'M AMY GODWIN. I'M WAS THE OWNER OF T ETCETERA AND ONE OF THE ACTION ITEMS TONIGHT IS OUR PAYBACK OF THE GRANT THAT WAS GIVEN TO TWO ETCETERA WHEN WE OPENED WE HAD ASKED THE CDC AND THE CDC AS LONG AS SOMEBODY REMAINED IN THAT SPACE. SINCE WE USED THE ENTIRE $25,000 OF THAT GRANT TO FINISH OUT THE SPACE THAT AS LONG AS SOMEBODY WAS STILL IN THERE AND BRINGING IN RETAIL TAX DOLLARS. THAT IT BE FORGIVEN. THAT WAS DENIED BY THE A. D. C AND C D. C. UM IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY CAME BACK WITH GIVING US A YEAR TO PAY BACK THE REMAINING $20,000. UM ONE THING THAT WITH. WAY THAT THE GRANT WAS GIVEN TO US OR THE WAY THAT IT WAS REPORTED. WE RECEIVED A 10 99 FOR THE FULL 25,000, SO IT WASN'T DONE EXACTLY LIKE A LOAN OR A GRANT. IT WAS CONSIDERED TAXABLE. EMPLOYEE COMPENSATION. SO WE'VE ALREADY PAID FULL TAXES ON THAT $25,000. UM SWEET. ASK THAT THAT BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION WITH THEM OUT THAT'S PAID BACK. UM. WE HAVE NOT FILED BANKRUPTCY. WE WOULD LIKE TO NOT. BUT THERE IS NOTHING LIQUID LEFT OF THE BUSINESS. ALL THAT'S LEFT OF THE BUSINESSES CREDIT CARD DEBT. UM SO IF WE DO NEED TO PAY IT BACK, UM I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THAT WE HAVE THAT THROUGH. UM JULY OF 2020. SEVEN WHEN IT WAS DUE TO HAVE THAT SAME AMOUNT OF TIME TO PAY IT BACK. UM WE'RE NOT IN A POSITION TO PAY THE 20,000 BACK IN 12 MONTHS. YES. LIKE TO ASK YOU A FACTUAL QUESTIONS SINCE ITS PUBLIC INPUT. DO YOU KNOW EXACTLY HOW MUCH SALES TAX REVENUE YOU DID BRING INTO THE TOWN WITHIN THAT YEAR? HMM. I DON'T I CAN FIGURE IT OUT. BEFORE THE AGENDA ITEM.

ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE ANY MORE CARDS? ANYONE WANT TO SPEAK? JUST WAVED AT ME. YES, MA'AM. I JUST HAVE A REAL QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU. RINA HARDIMAN. I LIVE IN NORTH LIKE AND YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE HOTEL TAX AND 7% OF THE HOTEL TAX 5% IS GOING TO TOWARDS YOUR HOTEL CONFERENCE CENTER AND THE OTHER 2% IS PROPOSED FOR THE SPORTS VENUES THAT CORRECT AND THERE IS NO OTHER TAX REVENUE FOR FROM THE HOTEL TAX. IS THAT CORRECT? IS IT JUST 7% OKAY, SO EVERY BIT OF THAT TAX REVENUE WOULD BE USED FOR THESE TWO PROJECTS, SO NO MORE OF THAT TAX REVENUE. THE

[00:15:01]

HOTEL TAX REVENUE WOULD GO FOR ANY OTHER PROJECTS IN NORTH LIKE JUST THOSE TWO. SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE AND THEN, BUT THEN THE E D. C C. D C WOULD THEN HAVE THEIR RIGHTS SENT BACK EACH CORRECT. NO, THAT'S ALSO DEDICATED OKAY? OH, THAT'S A LOT. OKAY. WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU NEXT. ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK TONIGHT? ALL RIGHT, BUT WE DO HAVE I BELIEVE ONE ITEM ON THE AGENDA. AT LEAST IT HAS A PUBLIC HEARING. TWO ITEMS. EXCUSE ME. THERE'S TWO ITEMS THAT HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING. WHEN WE OPENED THE PUBLIC HEARING, SAME PROCESS. I'LL CALL FOR ANYONE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THOSE TWO TOPICS AND YOU CAN COME UP WITH THAT TIME AND SPEAK WHETHER YOU SPOKEN NOW OR NOT. ALL RIGHT. IT'S 5. 45 PM

[4. CONSENT ITEMS]

NO. ONE WAYS THAT MEANS WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MOVE ON TO OUR ACTION ITEM AGENDA. RATHER OUR CONSENT ITEMS. EXCUSE ME. WE REQUEST THAT YOU TAKE ITEM BE INDIVIDUALLY. UH OR ANY OTHERS THAT YOU HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ON OTHER THAN THAT. CONSENT AGENDAS IS READY TO BE CONSIDERED. FOUR B. YOU'RE WISHING TO PULL? YES FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. OKAY. ALRIGHT SO A, C, D E AND F ARE AVAILABLE FOR CONSIDERATION.

THIS IS THE TOWN COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES FROM AUGUST. 21ST AND 24TH. EMC HAS A RESOLUTION OF APPROVING THE PURCHASE OF FOUR CHEVY TAHOES FIVE IS A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE TOWN MANAGER TO PURCHASE TO SILVERADO 2500 PICKUPS. E IS A NEGOTIATED SETTLEMENT BETWEEN ATLAS, UH, IN THE TOWN, BUT RATHER THE STEERING COMMITTEE AND THEN ACTION ITEM F IS RESOLUTION APPROVING AND AUTHORIZING THE TOWN MANAGER EXECUTED AMENDMENT TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH SANDSTROM DEVELOPMENT. ARE THERE ANY ITEMS OF ANY OTHER COUNSELOR WOULD LIKE TO PULL FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. THERE BEING NONE ALL OPEN THOSE FOR CONSIDERATION. PUSHING TOP ROOF . RUSSIANS ARE APPROVED. A C D E AND F CORRECT, ALL RIGHT. IS THERE A SECOND? THE MOTION BY THE MAYOR PRO TEM SECONDED BY COUNCILOR GANZ. OPEN THE VOTING, PLEASE. CONSENT AND CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS ARE APPROVED A, C D AND E AND F ALL RIGHT. THEN LET'S GO BACK TO ITEM B. MR CORN? YES SIR. WITH THE PASSING OF SENATE BILL 2038. WE HAVE THE IMMEDIATE RELEASE FROM E. T. J WE HAVE WE HAD PROPOSED A FEE. YOU RECEIVED AN EMAIL ON THE LETTER TODAY, AND I'M TRYING TO RESPOND TO THAT. UM. THIS FEE WOULD GO FOR UPDATING OUR MAPS BECAUSE ANYTIME PROPERTIES RELEASED FROM IT, J. WE HAVE A PROCESSING TOWN SECRETARIES TO VERIFY THAT THE INDIVIDUAL OR THE ENTITY IS A PROPER ENTITY. SO THERE ARE SOME COSTS RELATED TO THAT, UH, IT WAS SINCE, UM THAT WAS PUT IN YOUR PACKET. THE OUR ATTORNEY HAS SOME ADDITIONAL COMMENTS, SO I'LL LET UM ASHLEY COMMENT. YES SO YOU SHOULD HAVE AN UPDATED VERSION OF THE ORDINANCE THAT, UM, THAT WE SENT TODAY. UM THAT THE ONLY CHANGE FROM WHAT'S IN THE PACKET AND WHAT SHOULD BE ON THE DIET IS ON. THE THIRD FULL PAGE. IT'S DEALS WITH, UM, YOU WHAT'S REQUIRED FOR A CORPORATE A CORPORATE ENTITY TO ASK, UM FOR REMOVAL FROM THE E T. J SO THE BOTTOM OF PAGE TWO. IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT, UM B THREE, THOSE THOSE ITEMS SHOULD, UM, BE INCLUDED IN THE PETITION SO Z CAN VERIFY. UM THAT PETITION UNDER 2038 AND WE AND I'M HAPPY TO TALK THROUGH, UM, THE FEE PROCESS. THIS ALSO INCLUDES A FEE, UM, CHAPTER 41 OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE REQUIRES YOU TO UPDATE YOUR MAPS AS A HOME RULE CITY EVERY TIME THEY CHANGE, SO EVERY TIME SOMEBODY COMES IN, UM TO ASK TO BE REMOVED FROM THE T . J. THAT MEANS TECHNICALLY TO COMPLY WITH CHAPTER 41. YOU'VE GOT TO UPDATE YOUR MAPS, WHICH IS A VERY EXPENSIVE PROCESS, AND YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE NOTICE TO THE COUNTY, TOO, SO THAT THEY CAN UPDATE UM AND KNOW WHAT WHAT JURISDICTION IS GOING TO APPLY? UM, SO THOSE ARE THE CHANGES FROM WHAT WE WHAT WE PUT IN THERE AND I'M FROM WHAT WAS IN THE PACKET. SCUSE ME, AND I'M HAPPY TO TALK THROUGH. UM THE LETTER THAT YOU GUYS RECEIVED

[00:20:01]

FROM THE DALLAS BUSINESS ASSOCIATION, UM IN IN THE BACK. IF WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT, UM THE QUESTIONS AS IT RELATES TO THAT. LEGAL ISSUES. UM BUT I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THE DIFFERENCES AND THAT'S WHY I ASKED TO PULL THAT ITEM. PRETTY GOOD. THANK YOU. FOR THAT COUNSELORS. YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ASHLEY? FOR ACTUALLY OR DREW. YEAH EVERYBODY KEEPS SAYING HOW EXPENSIVE IT IS. UPDATE THESE SYNAPSES $1000 ACTUALLY COVER US. I DIDN'T CATCH THAT LAST PART. EVERYBODY SAYS THE MAP UPDATING IS VERY EXPENSIVE, AND I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF PROCESSES INVOLVED IN THAT. DOES THE $1000 ACTUALLY COVER OUR EXPENSES? ARE WE BEING GENEROUS HERE? UM, I BELIEVE IT DOES. YEAH, I THINK IT'S SIMILAR AND IT'S SIMILAR TO EXISTING FEES WE'VE CHARGED. WE'VE TESTED OTHER OTHER ACTIVITIES REQUIRE MAP REVISIONS, SO THIS IS IN LINE WITH WHAT WE CHARGE AND WE TESTED THOSE OTHER ONES. WE ASSUME IT'S GONNA BE VERY SIMILAR. THANK YOU. COUNSELORS ANYTHING FURTHER. VERY GOOD AS THE GENERAL PHILOSOPHY. I BELIEVE IN RECOUPING ANYTHING THAT FOLKS ARE COSTING US. AND AS A GENERAL RULE. WHILE THIS HASN'T BEEN STRESS TESTED YET, BECAUSE THE NEW PROCESS IN GENERAL THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN SEEKING THE EXIT FROM THE OF THE TOWN OR GENERALLY TRYING TO DEVELOP IN WAYS THAT ARE NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE TOWN OF NORTH LAKE AND THEREFORE WE SHOULD BE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO RECAPTURE THE COSTS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO LAY ON US. NOW WE'RE ONLY ALLOWED TO CAPTURE THOSE THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT ACTIVITY. AND SO THEREFORE WE SHOULD BE CHARGING EVERY PENNY. WE CAN. AND AS A GENERAL RULE, LEAVING THE BECAUSE TJ EXISTS FOR THE PURPOSE OF PLANNING FOR A TOWN TO PLAN.

YOUR UTILITY IS YOUR ROAD INFRASTRUCTURE, POLICE SERVICES, EVERYTHING THAT'S RELATED TO YOUR MASTER PLAN. IF SOMEONE'S GOING TO EXIT THAT, AFTER YEARS OF BEING IN THE TJ, THEY'RE CAUSING SIGNIFICANT DISRUPTION TO THE PLANNING AND ADDING COST TO US AS CITIZENS. THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE A FUN PROCESS. WHAT THE STATE HAS DONE. IT'S JUST OPENED UP ALL THE T J TWO SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENT AND WE SHOULD BE PREPARED FOR WHAT THAT'S GOING TO BRING IN OUR RURAL AREAS. UNFORTUNATELY THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE CAN DO ANYTHING ABOUT AT THE MOMENT, BUT WE ARE TAKING STEPS AS BEST WE CAN TO PROTECT OUR TOWN. AND OR FINANCIAL INTEGRITY FOR THE FUTURE. SO THAT JUST SAID A FEW COMMENTS ABOUT THAT. BUT AS FAR AS THE ORDINANCE IS CONCERNED, IT LOOKS SOLID TO ME. AND AS LONG AS WE HAVE INSURANCES, YOU'VE DONE YOUR BEST AND USED THE BEST INTELLIGENCE. YOU HAVE TO PREPARE THIS. I DON'T FIND ANY REASON NOT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT. IN SPITE OF THE DIVAS. OPPOSITION. WHICH BY THE WAY, THEIR ARGUMENT WAS THAT WE SHOULDN'T BE CHARGING A FEE BECAUSE THAT ADDS TO THE COST OF BUILDING AND CONSTRUCTING HOUSES. AND ACTUALLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING. YES AFFORDABLE HOUSING , AND I WOULD COUNTER THAT IT COSTS US FOR MONEY TO PAY FOR IT. AND SO IT COMES OUT OF SOMEONE ELSE'S POCKET RATHER THAN THE PACK OF THOSE THAT ARE BUILDING HOUSING TO BEGIN WITH. SO I'M GOOD WITH THIS AS IT IS COUNSELORS. ACTION ON THIS OTHER THAN THE COST OF UPGRADING MAPS , OR THERE IS ANY OTHER COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS THAT WE CAN ATTACK ON WE BELIEVE WE HAVE. THERE'S LIKE I SAID EARLIER, UM , OUR ACCOUNT SECRETARY NEEDS TO VERIFY THAT THERE'S AN ACTUAL BUSINESS OR A PERSON AND THEY HAVE OWNERSHIP OF THIS PROPERTY . UM THERE'S THE JUST THE PROCESSING OF STAFF. IT COMES IN THROUGH THE TOWN SECRETARY. WE NEED TO, UM YOU KNOW, WE DID SET IT UP ON THE AGENDA. WE NEED TO BRING IT FORWARD TO YOU. REVISION IS A MAJOR COST THE REST OF IT. IS KIND OF STAFF COSTS, BUT WE BELIEVE THAT AND WE CAN'T. WE CAN'T OVER RECOVER SO WE DON'T WE DON'T WANT TO RUN THE RISK OF THAT. SO WE BELIEVE WE'VE SET UP PRICE THAT COVERS ARE OUR COSTS. BOTH OUR STAFF COST AND THE MAP REVISION COST HOW DOES THIS TIE IN WITH CCN? SEPARATE PROCESS. PROCESS. YEAH.

ARE THERE TWO SEPARATE COSTS OR IS THERE EVEN A CAUSE FOR OR GOING TO DO? C. C. N S UM. THERE IS A COST, BUT THAT'S TO REVISE THOSE MAPS. BUT THAT'S PART OF THE COUNCIL POLICY. TO ENTICE PROPERTY OWNERS TO ANNEX INTO THE TOWN TO GET SERVICE FROM WATER AND SEWER. SO IT IT DOES.

RELEASING FROM E. T. J DOES NOT AFFECT OUR WATER AND SEWER CCN MAPS WERE DOING THAT IN A SEPARATE PROCESS AS A POLICY INITIATIVE BY THE COUNCIL. JUST TRYING TO RECOVER ALL WE COULD UNDERSTOOD. ANYTHING FURTHER. ACTUALLY OPEN FOR MOTIONS. PUSHING THE MOTION OF PROVE FROM DR SESSIONS GOT THE BUTTON? IS THERE A SECOND MAYOR PRO TEM SECOND? ALL RIGHT. DR SESSIONS IS THE MOTION SECONDED BY MAYOR FOR 10 MONTINIPNI FURTHER DISCUSSION FOR BEING DONE. OPEN

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THE VOTING, PLEASE. MOTION IS UNANIMOUS. NEXT ITEM NOW OUR REGULAR ACTION ITEM

[5.A. Consider appointment to fill the Planning & Zoning Commission, Place 2 Vacancy, for the unexpired term ending May 31, 2024]

AGENDA BEGINNING WITH FIVE A CONSIDERING AN APPOINTMENT TO FILL THE P AND Z COMMISSION VACANCY FOR THE UNEXPIRED TERM ENDING MAY 31ST 2024. WE HAVE A VACANCY DUE TO MR FOWLER BEING APPOINTED TO THE COUNCIL AND AS A GENERAL RULE WE HAVE CHOSEN ALONG THE WAY IT'S NOT REQUIRED ABOUT TO VACATE ROLLS ON OTHER BOARDS. IF YOU'RE A COUNCIL MEMBER JUST SO WE CAN INVITE MORE PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE TOWN. WE HAVEN'T ALWAYS DONE THAT. WE'VE GOT A KIND OF GOT THERE OVER TIME. AND SO NOW WE ARE AT A POINT WHERE WE HAVE A VACANCY, AND WE'D LIKE TO FILL THE UNEXPIRED TERM COUNCIL MEMBERS. WE HAVE A COUPLE OF FOLKS WE'VE HEARD FROM ONE TONIGHT. WE HAVE THREE APPLICANTS. IS THERE ANY FURTHER ANYONE ELSE? THAT APPLIED HERE IS THAT THE THREE NOTHING CHANGED FROM THE TIME THAT WE HAD IN THE SUGGESTED TIME PERIOD AND THE SOLANA WAS ABLE TO VERIFY THAT THEIR MEET THE CRITERIA OF THE CHARTER, THE REGISTERED VOTERS AND THEN THE OTHER DIRECT OR DIRECTION. IS IT KIND OF GEOGRAPHICALLY DIVERSE AND REPRESENTATIVE OF AREAS OF THE TOWN, SO WE'VE PREPARED THIS TABLE FOR YOU SO YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE EXISTING BOARD MEMBERS WHERE THEY RESIDE. AND THEN, UM, THE THREE APPLICANTS. VERY GOOD COUNSELORS. YOUR DISCUSSION. MAY I ASK BRIAN IF HE'S TALKED TO EACH OF THEM, I HAVE TALKED TO ONE OF THEM. I HAVE NOT TALKED TO ALL THREE. THIS TIME I RAN OUT OF TIME THIS WEEK. I'VE TALKED ALL THREE. I GOT TO. I GOT TO HEAR SOME OPINIONS FROM THOSE WHO HAVE TALKED WITH THEM.

UM YEAH, I'LL GIVE YOU MINE. UM I THINK THE TWO THAT I SPOKE TO HAVE BEEN RESIDENTS OF NORTH LAKE. GOOD FAMILY. PEOPLE THINK THEY BOTH BELIEVE IN THE AS WAS STATED BY MR ZERO TODAY THAT THEY BELIEVE IN WHAT WE'RE DOING IS CORRECT. AND THAT WE'RE ON THE RIGHT PATH. I HAVE NO ISSUES WITH EITHER I DIDN'T HAVE ANY CONCERNS. WHICH TWO OF THOSE THAT YOU SPOKE TO JOSHUA PROSCIUTTO AND SUSAN RECUR. THANK YOU. I ALSO SPOKE WITH ED AND HE IS ON. HE'S IN THE RIDGE AND HE'S ON OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH COMMITTEE. HE RUNS THAT, SO HE'S ALSO VERY MUCH INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY AND THE SAME THING IN IT FOR THE RIGHT REASONS. UM, JUST WANTS TO BE PART OF WHAT WE'RE DOING. MY CONVERSATIONS WITH MR PROSCIUTTO WERE VERY PRODUCTIVE. ONE CHALLENGE THAT I THINK THE COUNCIL IS EXPRESSED FRUSTRATION WITH IS BOARD MEMBERS PAYING ATTENTION TO THE DIRECTION OF COUNCIL ON CERTAIN ITEMS IN BEING INVOLVED IN COUNCIL MEETINGS AND SUCH AND I HAVE A COMMITMENT FROM MR PRESERVE THAT HE WOULD ATTEND MEETINGS SO HE COULD BRING BACK OUR WISHES AND STUFF TO HIS BOARD AS WELL. SO THERE'S NOBODY OBJECTS. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR MR PIZZUTO. OKAY. SECOND, THAT. WE GOT A SECOND DOWN HERE. SO I HAVE A MOTION FROM THE MAYOR PRO TEM. I HAVE A SECOND BY COUNCILOR GANZ. LET'S FINISH OUR DISCUSSION. I DID GET A CHANCE TO SPEAK TO TWO OF THE APPLICANTS. THE THIRD ONE. I WASN'T ABLE TO REACH JUST YET. BUT I TALKED TO MR PROSCIUTTO. TALK TO MR POPA LACK. BOTH OF THEM ARE VERY MUCH WANTING TO BE A PART OF OUR COMMUNITY AND CONTRIBUTE AND I FOUND THAT THEIR SKILL SETS WOULD BE COMPLEMENTARY TO SERVING ON ANY OF OUR BOARDS. BUT THESE ARE THE ONES THAT THEY'VE. OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE AN OPENING FOR, AND SO I WAS VERY PLEASED THAT WE HAD SOME CHOICES TO WORK WITH. AND VERY HAPPY TO HAVE THEM IN THE TOWN AND THEIR THEIR THOUGHTS AND THEIR OBSERVATIONS OF CERTAIN TOPICS WAS WAS VERY GOOD TO HEAR. BECAUSE THEY BOTH HAD SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO SEE SOME OF THE RECENT TOPICS THAT WERE STRUGGLING WITH AND DEALING WITH. AND THAT ARE COMING UP IN FRONT OF P AND Z AND THE COUNCIL AND THEY WERE BOTH AWARE AND PAYING ATTENTION TO WHAT WAS GOING ON. AND THAT'S THAT'S A THAT'S A POSITIVE SIGN. SO I REALLY REALLY ENJOYED THAT. THOSE TWO CONVERSATIONS LOOKING FORWARD TO TALKING ON THIS RECORD, REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENS WITH OUR DECISION TONIGHT, SO THAT'SCH THAT I DID. ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY MORE COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT. THERE'S A MOTION IN FRONT OF US , SO WE HAVE TO TAKE THAT MOTION. AT THIS TIME. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VOTE. AND THEN

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IF THAT DOESN'T GO THROUGH, THEN WE CAN TAKE ANOTHER ONE AND SEE WHERE THAT GOES. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS. LET'S OPEN THE VOTING. THERE'S A MOTION ON THE TABLE FOR MR PIZZUTO. ALRIGHT WE HAVE

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UNANIMOUS THANK YOU SO MUCH APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S THREE APPLYING AND I LOOK FORWARD TO OPPORTUNITIES TO GET YOU SLAUGHTERED ON SOMETHING ELSE. IF YOU WISH. THERE ARE VOLUNTEER OPPORTUNITIES, AS WELL AS BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND VARIOUS OPPORTUNITIES TO JOIN. WE'VE GOT CITIZENS POLICE ACADEMY, THE TOWN HALL 101 DIFFERENT PROGRAMS THAT YOU CAN LEARN MORE ABOUT THE TOWN. AS A GATEWAY TO BEING A PART OF SOME OF OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS APPRECIATE THE DIVERSITY OF FOLKS COMING AND PRESENTING OR FROM WHERE THEY COME FROM IN THE TOWN AND THE DIFFERENT FOLKS THAT REALLY, REALLY STEPPED UP IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS HAS BEEN

[5.B. Consider a Resoluon of the Town of Northlake, Texas, nominang candidates for appointment to the Denton Central Appraisal District Board of Directors for the Term of January 1, 2024 through December 31, 2025, and providingan effecve date]

IMPRESSIVE. SO APPRECIATE THAT. ALL RIGHT. ITEM B. NOMINATING CANDIDATES FOR THE DECAF BOARD.

UH, I WOULD JUST BY WAY OF CONTEXT. WE DO THIS EVERY YEAR. WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPOINT DIRECTORS TO THE THERE'S TWO STEP PROCESS WE APPOINT AND THEN WE THEN WE GET TO ACTUALLY VOTE ON APPOINTEES. NOMINATE AND THEN AND THEN ACTUALLY VOTE. ON THOSE CANDIDATES THAT ARE THAT ARE APPOINTED OR NOMINATED, RATHER THE IN THE PAST ARE ARE VOTING. RIGHTS IF YOU WILL, AS A TAX ENTITY, THEY DO IT BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF TAXABLE VALUE IN EACH ENTITY, SO IT'S AN ENTITY BASED VOTE DON'T LIKE BEING YES , I DON'T. I DON'T LIKE THE PROCESS AND DISADVANTAGES US.

THE LOWER TAX RATE IS AND IT DOES NOT USE POPULATION AS A BASIS, AND IT'S NOT A PUBLIC VOTE. IT'S BASED ON ENTITY VOTES, SO I DON'T LIKE ANY OF THIS PROCESS, BUT IT'S THE PROCESS WE'VE BEEN GIVEN. IT'S ALSO ONE THAT OUR VOTE HAS NEVER MADE A DIFFERENCE. AND SO THAT'S ANOTHER REASON WHY I HAVE SOME ANGST IN IT. WE? WE'VE THROWN SOME NAMES AT IT FROM TIME TO TIME HASN'T MADE A PHILIPPINES BUT A DIFFERENCE. THERE'S USUALLY TOO BIG ENTITIES THAT TOP TAX LIVING AGENCIES AND IN THE COUNTY PRETTY MUCH JUST RULED TODAY AND THEY PUT WHOEVER THEY WANT IN AND THAT'S HOW WE DEAL WITH AND WE'VE HAD A LOT OF TROUBLE WITH THE APPRAISAL BOARD AND THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT OVER TIME, AND SO I WISH THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE OPEN PROCESS AND WE COULD EXPRESS FRUSTRATION WITH THOSE PROCESSES, BUT THAT BEING SAID WE DON'T REALLY HAVE . I HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY APPLICATIONS FOR APPOINTMENT TO US, AND NO ONE HAS CALLED OR ASKED TO BE APPOINTED, AND SO HAVE NO RECOMMENDATION TO YOU OTHER THAN TO LEAVE THIS B AND WILL VOTE ON THE APPLICANTS THAT ARE PRESENTED TO US LATER. THAT'S MY SUGGESTION TO YOU THIS EVENING COUNCIL. YOU HAVEN'T ANY OTHER DIRECTION YOU'D LIKE TO GO WITH THAT. WE'RE JUST NEXT YEAR , UM THROUGH LEGISLATION, THERE WILL BE THREE AT LARGE ELECTED POSITIONS COUNTYWIDE TO THIS APPRAISAL DISTRICT. AND SO THAT WILL INCREASE IT TO EIGHT IN THE ACTUAL, THE CHIEF APPRAISER WILL HAVE A VOTING POSITION BECAUSE YOU GOTTA HAVE NINE IN CASE THERE'S A TIE VOTE SO THERE WILL BE MORE REPRESENTATION, BUT THAT WON'T TAKE EFFECT UNTIL NEXT NEXT CYCLE. EXCELLENT. ASHLEY IF WE TAKE NO ACTION ON THIS, WHAT'S THE STEP? WE NEED TO TAKE? UM MANY YOU DON'T WANT TO.

LET IT GO. JUST TAKE NO ACTION. DON'T DON'T ASK FOR A MOTION JUST MOVE ON. ALRIGHT. BY

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[5.C. Consider a Resoluon of the Town council of the Town of Northlake, Texas, approving an amendment to a Pioneer Grant for Tea Xetera and authorizing the Northlake Economic Development Corporaon and the Northlake Community Development Corporaon to enter into an amended performance agreement]

GENERAL CONSENT, WE'LL MOVE ON. ITEM C TAKE UP THE APPROVAL TO AMEND THE PIONEER GRANT FOR ETCETERA ARTERIES AUTHORIZED THE E. D. C AND C D. C TO ENTER INTO AN AMENDED PERFORMANCE AGREEMENT. THE AMENDED AGREEMENT, AS WITH STATED IN PUBLIC COMMENT, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, MR CORN, BUT THE AMENDED AGREEMENT IS A PAYMENT RESCHEDULE. UH VERSUS THE INITIAL THANKS. THAT'S CORRECT, BUT BASED ON THE CURRENT AGREEMENT, PAYMENT OF 20,000 IS DUE WITHIN 30 DAYS OF NOTICE. UM WHICH WE HAVE NOT SENT OUT YET. PENDING THESE DECISIONS. THE NBC AND CBC CONSIDERED, UH, REQUEST . FORGIVE THE FULL LOAN. UH THEY CAME BACK WITH WITH REDUCING IT BY $400, WHICH WAS THE UNDERSTANDING OF THE AMOUNT OF UM, SALES TAX IS GENERATED TO THE DC AND CBC IN THE PAST YEAR. AND HAVING THAT PAYABLE AND FOUR QUARTERLY INSTALLMENTS OVER THE NEXT YEAR. SO THE OPTIONS ARE TOO. APPROVE THIS CHANGE THE PERFORMANCE AGREEMENT AS THE CDC AND CDC HAVE PRESENTED TO YOU OR TO DISAPPROVE THIS RESOLUTION AND PROVIDE GUIDANCE ON ALTERNATIVE FOR A, D, C AND C D. C TO RECONSIDER AND THEN BRING THAT BACK TO YOU. QUESTIONS FOR MR REDDEN. I DO HAVE A QUESTION. DO YOU HAVE THE TOTAL OF WHAT THE BUILD OUT COSTS IN THE BUILDING? UH, NOT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. COME ON INTO THE MIC. AND THE TOTAL COST OF THE BUILD OUT WAS 108,500. THANK YOU. OTHERS. HAVE A QUESTION FOR NATHAN. HAVE WE HAD ANY OTHER?

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UM BUSINESSES THAT REQUESTED OR HAVE CLOSED AND REQUESTED. NO. FORTUNATELY THIS IS ONLY ONE THAT HAS CLOSED DURING THE FIVE YEAR DURATION. OBVIOUSLY IT'S A DIFFICULT SUBJECT BECAUSE SOMEBODY'S PERSONAL LIFE IS AFFECTED HERE. HOWEVER, THIS IS A I SEE IT AS A BUSINESS DECISION FOR A TOWN BECAUSE THIS IS OUR TAX DOLLARS AND ARE THEY'RE USED FOR PROJECTS AND GRANTS. AND IT PAINS ME TO SAY THAT, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT I FEEL LIKE THE CDC WAS VERY GENEROUS AND LYING ALONG LONGER PAYBACK PERIOD. BUT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE THEY COULD HAVE DONE PAST THAT. BUT I DON'T THINK THAT YOU KNOW? WE CAN JUST SAY THAT HE WON ONE OF THE RESIDENTS OF OUR TOWN CAN JUST TAKE THAT THAT'S MONEY. THAT'S BEEN COLLECTED AND USE THAT IF THEY DIDN'T GENERATE THE REVENUE BACKS I THINK THEY GET. THEY DID GIVE HER CREDIT, THOUGH, RIGHT? NATHAN. THERE WAS A CREDIT GIVEN BECAUSE OF THE $400 IN SALES TAX THAT WAS BROUGHT IN. YES, YES.

IS THAT THE TOTAL SALES TAX OR JUST THE SALES TAX, THE CDC THAT'S JUST THE SALES TAX AT THE CDC. AND AT THAT MEETING, YOU KNOW WHERE THAT NUMBER CAME FROM. WE HAVE A SERVICE THAT TRACKS THOSE, UM ZACH TAXES, THE NAME OF IT, AND WE LOOKED IT UP THAT NIGHT. BUT IT WAS JUST WHAT WAS REPORTED THROUGH THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE. WE DIDN'T HAVE THE ORIGINAL CELLS FROM THE BUSINESS ITSELF. PLEASE. PLEASE LET US KNOW. YEAH. I DON'T KNOW WHAT PERCENTAGE GOES TO THE TOWN , BUT THERE WAS IN THAT YEAR THAT WERE OPEN. $8552.54 PAID IN SALES TAX TOTAL SALES TAX IS 8.25% SO TO ROUGHLY $2000 WORTH COME TO TOWN NORTH. WAKE NUMBER CORRECT SO GOOD MAN. MAN 2% IS OUR TOTAL TAX. YES, SIR. AND 1.5 . A CENT IS 80 C AND C D. C. BUT TOTAL TAX TO THE TOWN IS 2. TWO OF THE EIGHT OF THE TOTAL OF THE GROSS SALES. YES, SIR. OKAY. SO THIS IS A VERY DIFFICULT CONCEPT . I DO AGREE WITH YOU, MR MONTINI MEMBER ITEM ON THE PRINCIPLE. WE CAN'T JUST BE GIVING MONEY AWAY. UM, I GOT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT VIEW ON THIS ONE, THOUGH, BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT THE MONEY WAS USED TO BUILD AN OUTFIT THE STORE AND THAT WAS ALL LEFT BEHIND. I THINK IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT SITUATION IF THERE IS A RESTAURANT THAT CLOSES AND YOU GOT ALL THE MACHINES AND YOU TAKE THE TAKE THE OVENS WITH YOU AND YOU GO SELL THEM OFF AND YOU'RE SELLING OFF THE ASSETS OF THE BUSINESS THAT WERE PAID FOR WITH TAX DOLLARS. IF THE BUILD OUT STAYS, WHICH DID ANOTHER STORM MOVED IN RIGHT AS THEY CLOSED. AND SET UP SHOP AND REOPENED. THAT ASSET IS STILL GENERATING. AND SO IN THAT SENSE IT'S THE SAME SITUATION AS IF THE STORE WAS STILL THERE. I THINK THAT DESERVES SOME SOME EVALUATION BECAUSE THIS IS NOT A IT'S NOT A CUTTING DRIES SITUATION. I UNDERSTAND COMPLETELY. THIS ONE WAS A HIGH RISK OPERATION TO BRING SOMETHING THAT WAS UNIQUE AND INTERESTING, AND IT SERVED A PURPOSE AND THAT'S THAT'S GOOD, AND THAT'S POSITIVE. I THINK THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OF A CHILLING EFFECT. IF YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT, UM YOU KNOW, FAILING AT SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE DOING BOLDLY. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO SEE YOU. NO MORE TRADITIONAL USES INSTEAD OF THE SPECIALTY THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. SO I THINK THIS DOES WARRANT A LITTLE BIT CLOSER LOOK. UM I THINK IT WAS. I WAS VERY PLEASED THE AND HOW THEY LOOKED AT THE SALES TAX GENERATED AND THE PAYMENT PLAN. I THINK ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. BUT I DO THINK IS THE COUNCIL. WE HAVE RESPONSIBILITY TO SEND BACK A MESSAGE THAT THERE'S ONE MORE COMPONENT THAT I DON'T BELIEVE THEY TOOK INTO ACCOUNT AND THAT IS THAT THE ASSETS STILL IS PRODUCING. FOR THE TOWN OF NORTH LAKE AND WE HOPE WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO YOU CAN'T PACK UP THE BUILD OUT. IT'S A IT'S A BATHROOM CHANGING ROOM NOW FOR A BOUTIQUE CLOTHING STORE. AND SO IT'S CONTINUING TO PRODUCE AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO PAY ANYTHING FOR THAT BUILD OUT. SO THAT IN THAT SENSE SOMEONE ELSE'S BENEFITTING AND BENEFITTING THE TOWN AND THE ONLY ENTITY THAT'S NOT BENEFITING IS OUR RESIDENT THAT'S IN FINANCIAL STRAITS AS A RESULT OF TRYING TO TAKE A CHANCE ON HER TOWN. IN THAT SENSE, I THINK WE SHOULD BE REALLY LOOKING AT THIS AND

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COMING UP WITH SOMETHING SOME SOME GUIDANCE TO GIVE BACK TO THE DC RECEIVE. CFL TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. MARY, YOU RAISE AN EXCELLENT POINT. I HAD A PROBLEM WHEN BURGERS ENCOURAGE DID THIS TO US WHEN IT WAS? I AM BURGER BURGER. I AM AND THEN THEY CHANGED THEIR RESTAURANT AND STRATEGY AND EVERYTHING ELSE. WE MADE A DEAL WITH THE FRANCHISEE. FOR A CERTAIN FRANCHISE. AND THEN THEY TOOK THAT MONEY AND CHANGE THE BUSINESS MODEL COMPLETELY. I KNOW THAT COUNCIL ELECTED TO LEAVE THAT FUNDING. STAY PUT. BUT. I BELIEVE WHEN YOU MAKE A DEAL WITH SOMEBODY ON OUR BUSINESS AGREEMENT WITH SOMEBODY THAT THAT SHOULD BE STRUCTURED AND TAKEN CARE OF. I WOULDN'T EVEN BE OPEN, SUGGESTING THE P AND Z THAT WE COULD STRETCH THIS OUT A LITTLE BIT AND BASED ON SALES TAXES BROUGHT IN BY THE CURRENT STORE. MAYBE APPLY SOME OF THAT. AS A WAY TO GET THERE. AND MAKE SURE BECAUSE UNFORTUNATELY, WHAT WAS MARKETED TO US FOR ITS SALES TAXES ETCETERA WOULD BRING IN WAS DRASTICALLY LESS THAN WHAT WAS SOLD TO US UP FRONT. WHICH IF YOU RECALL WE WANTED SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS WANT TO DROP THE GRANT MONEY. BECAUSE IT WAS TOO RISKY OF A BUSINESS. IT WAS TOO MUCH OF A GRANT. FOR THAT BUSINESS IN PARTICULAR, SO I KNOW I SOUND COLD. I DON'T MEAN TO. IT'S JUST THE BUSINESS. JUST LOOKING FROM TOWN PERSPECTIVE, SO I APOLOGIZE. THAT SOUNDS HARSH. UM BUT MAYBE THERE'S A WAY TO GET THERE WITH USING FUTURE TAX REVENUES TO OFFSET SOME OF THESE PAYMENTS. I THINK I WAS ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WAS LITTLE LEERY ABOUT THE GRAND AMOUNT. I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT HOW WE ISSUED GRANTS OR AWARDS GRANTS. I MEAN, EVERYTHING IS BASED ON BUSINESS PROJECTIONS AND SALES FORECAST AND INCOMING ESTIMATES IN NO. SOMETIMES WE HAVE NOTHING TO GO ON EXCEPT WHAT THE APPLICANT IS TELLING US. THIS IS A CASE WHERE DIDN'T WORK OUT. I CAN SEE YOUR POINT AND I CAN SEE YOUR POINT AS WELL. BUT YOU REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT HOW WE APPLY GRANTS AND HOW WE COME TO THOSE DECISIONS SO WE CAN AVOID THESE KINDS OF PROBLEMS IN THE FUTURE FOR THE TOWN AND FOR THE APPLICANT AS WELL. I'D LIKE TO ADD A POINT ON THE BURGER. I AM SO I SEE THAT A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY. AND HERE'S HOW I SEE IT. BURGER RYAN HAD A FRANCHISE AGREEMENT WITH WITH THE BURGER. I AM BRAND THAT THE FRANCHISE DEFAULTED. AND LEFT THE FRANCHISEE OUT IN THE COLD.

AND SO THEY REINVENTED WHAT THEY DID TO BECOME A AN INDIVIDUAL PROPRIETORSHIP. THAT'S NOT A FRANCHISE ANYMORE. THEY ADDED SOMETHING VERY VALUABLE TO OUR TOWN WITH THEIR ADDITIONAL CUISINE, SOMETHING THAT'S MORE IN LINE WITH WHAT THEY'RE CAPABLE OF DELIVERING, AND THEY'VE ADDED SOMETHING VERY SPECIFIC TO THE TOWN THAT'S ACTUALLY GENERATED MORE REVENUE.

I BELIEVE SINCE THEN. SO IN THAT SITUATION, I THINK WHILE I WOULD AGREE. IF THEY GO CHANGE WHAT THEY'RE DOING. I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION IF IT'S JUST A STRAIGHT CHANGE. BUT IF MARKET DEMAND SAYS THAT THEY SHOULD CHANGE OR FAIL, OR IF SOMEONE ELSE DEFAULTS ON THEM THEY NEEDED TO BREAK AWAY IN ORDER TO CONTINUE TO OPERATE, SO THEY DID SOMETHING THAT WAS STRATEGIC. IT WAS SMART, AND IT WAS SUCCESSFUL. AND SO IN THAT CASE, I AGREE WITH THE CONTINUATION OF THAT ONE. UM BUT I STILL THINK THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE CHANCES. JUST THAT'S WHAT GRANT PROGRAM IS FOR. IT'S A CHANCE TO GET THE THINGS WE WANT. WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET THE THINGS WE WANT BY JUST LEAVING IT AND INVITING, YOU KNOW. BASICALLY THE FRANCHISE OPERATORS TO COME AND FILL THE TOWN. I KNOW THAT WE ENJOY OUR FRANCHISEES, BUT NOT NECESSARILY JUST GOING TO LAY OUT AND JUST LET THEM ALL COME IN, AND THAT'S ALL WE'RE GOING TO ENJOY. IF WE WANT THE UNIQUE THEORIES IF WE WANT THE UNIQUE BOUTIQUES, IF YOU WANT THE UNIQUE THINGS WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO PAY FOR SOME OF THEM, AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GIVE HIM A LEG UP AND SOME OF THEM ARE GONNA FAIL. AND I DON'T THINK THAT WE NEED TO BE PUT IN. THE SIGNAL OUT THERE THAT WERE JUST REALLY THIS IS THIS IS PRETTY COLD AS YOU AS YOU SAID. I THINK IT'S A PRETTY COLD MESSAGE THAT THESE COME WITH INCREDIBLY STRICT TERMS AND THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST GONNA I THINK SUPPRESS THE DESIRE TO BRING RESIDENT OWNED. UM UNIQUE PLACES TO NORTH LAKE AND THAT'S THAT'S NOT A MESSAGE THAT I WANT TO SEND. I AM VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF SENDING BACK SOME SOME RE GUIDANCE TO THE CCBC TO TAKE THESE THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION. DO SOMETHING. SIGNIFICANT TO AMEND. THIS WILL BE MY MIND. UP TO AND INCLUDING WIPING IT OUT BECAUSE THE BUSINESS RIGHT NOW THAT'S OPERATING DOES HAVE THE FULL VALUE OF THAT BUILD UP THAT TO ME, SAYS THERE'S AN ASSET PRODUCING. IT DIDN'T CHANGE IN TERMS OF ITS ASSET PRODUCTION.

THE BOUTIQUE IS PROBABLY GOING TO GENERATE SIMILAR IF NOT MORE REVENUE HIRED COST. THINGS BEING SOLD AND THAT THAT GENERATES BETTER REVENUE STREAM THAN HE DOES. PER CUSTOMER. AND SO I I'D LIKE TO GO THAT WAY. BUT I'M NOT THROWING THAT OUT. THERE IS EMOTION YET I'M JUST DISGUSTING.

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I WOULD THE ONLY THING I CHALLENGE YOU WITH ON THERE. I THINK THERE'S ROOM FOR DISCUSSION. I BELIEVE THAT IF WE JUST WIPE IT OUT, THOUGH, WHAT HAPPENS IF PORTICOS UNDERWATER? WORST CASE SCENARIO. I HOPE IT DOESN'T. BUT WHAT HAPPENS IF THAT HAPPENS THEN? THERE IS NO COST RECOVERY FOR OUR RESIDENTS. THERE'S NO COST RECOVERY. FOR EXAMPLE, TAX I'M HAPPY WITH IF THE BUSINESS STAYS IN BUSINESS, AND WE CONTINUE TO FORGIVE ON THE SAME SCHEDULE. AS LONG AS THERE'S A BUSINESS OPERATING THERE AND CONTINUE TO OPERATE IN THE USUAL EYES THAT ASSET AND I'M COMFORTABLE WITH ASKING THE ADCS CONSIDER ALLOWING THE REPAYMENT FORGIVENESS TO CONTINUE ON ITS INITIAL TRAJECTORY. TWO INCLUDING THE FOURTH ANNIVERSARY OF THE FIFTH ANNIVERSARY. COULD THE BOUTIQUE HAVE COME TO EARTH AND ASK FOR A PIONEER GRANT? THEY COULD HAVE, BUT THEY DID NOT. THEY DID NOT. BUT THEY COULD HAVE. SO IT'S AS IF WE WERE PAID BACK THE ORIGINAL 20 THAT COULD HAVE COME TO US AND THE NDC CDR. YEAH, THE D. C COULD HAVE GIVEN HIM ANOTHER 20. COULD HAVE SO. IT'S ALMOST AS IF THIS IS CONTAINING THE USE OF THAT $20,000. UM I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. I AGREE WITH WHAT THE MAYOR SAYING. I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 100 AND $80,000 INVESTMENT IN IN THE BUILD OUT THAT'S STILL BEING USED. WHILE I ALSO SEE MAYOR PRO TEM IS POINT AND AGREES WITH THAT THAT WE SHOULD BE RECOUPING COSTS WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS ASSET IS STILL PRODUCING MONEY FOR THE TOWN, SO I DO THINK IT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT AGAIN. AND I ALSO AGREE WITH COUNCILOR GANZ THAT IF WE DO THIS, WE NEED TO SET SOME MORE CLEAR, UM, FOR VISION TO HOW THESE GRANTS ARE GRANTED AND REPAID. I THINK I WAS AGAINST THAT MUCH MONEY TO BEGIN WITH. WE NEED MAYBE WE NEED TO BE TAKING A BETTER LOOK AT THE E D. C THEN WE DO THE BUSINESS OWNERS. MY CONCERN IS JUST SETTING PRECEDENT. IF THIS HAPPENS ONCE, IS IT GOING TO HAPPEN TO 34 MORE TIMES? HOPEFULLY NOT. UM I AGREE WITH WHAT? EVERYBODY SET UP HERE AND I HATE TO PLAY THE MIDDLE. BUT EVERYBODY HAD VERY VALID POINTS, BUT I THINK THE BIGGEST IS LIKE CANCER COUNSELOR, GAN SAID, IS WE NEED TO LOOK AT THIS GOING FORWARD ON HOW WE HAND OUT THESE GRANTS. THIS IS THE WAY IT'S GOING TO END UP. I DO KNOW FROM THE CDC AGENDAS. THEY ARE LOOKING AT NEW WAYS TO REWRITE THE PIONEER GRANT PROGRAM WITH PERFORMANCE METRICS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, SO I THINK THEY'RE WORKING ON THAT AND GOOD. GOOD WAY MOVING FORWARD. UM. IT'S JUST A IT'S A VERY TOUGH SITUATION. I WOULD, FRANKLY BEFORE VOTING ON SOMETHING LIKE YOU KNOW, AGREEING TO CARRY IT OVER. I'D LIKE TO SEE THE BOOKS OF THE BOUTIQUE THAT'S IN THERE AND WHAT THEIR PROJECTIONS ARE. SO WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE SIGNING UP FOR. UM I ASSUME THAT THEY MIGHT BE HIGHER. BUT ASSUMING THERE'S NOBODY ANY GOOD. SO I IF I HAD ANY CHOICE, I'D LIKE TO CARRY THIS OVER AND SEE. SEE WHAT THEIR BOOKS ARE AND MAKING INFORMED DECISION ON CARRYING THAT OVER. SO I THINK OUR OPTIONS ARE TO EITHER DO WHAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US OR SEND IT BACK TO THE CDC WITH SOME GUIDANCE, SO WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY MAKING A DECISION TO FORGIVE ANYTHING TONIGHT. ALTHOUGH WE'RE SENDING SOME DIRECTION AND THEN SECOND TO APPROVE OR REJECT OKAY? ALL RIGHT. THEN THE OTHER IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY RIGHT TO ASK THEM FOR THEIR BOOKS. THEY DIDN'T APPLY TO A GRANTS, SO THAT WOULD BE DIFFICULT, BUT NO NO, NOT WITHIN TIME. YES, YES. IT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE ASKED YOU RIGHT. WE ALSO CAN TRACK THEIR SALES TAX, BUT IF WE DO STATE IT THEN WE'VE VIOLATED THE CONFIDENTIALLY CAUSED TO TIE THAT SALES TAX TO THAT PARTICULAR. BUT MAYBE WE CAN TALK GENERALLY ABOUT THE COVERAGE. WE'LL TALK TO TALK TO THAT LADY RIGHT OVER HERE AND SEE IF WE CAN DO THAT. SO THERE THOSE ARE SOME CHALLENGES. UM BUT YEAH, AND TO REITERATE WHAT THE MAYOR PRO TEM SAID THE BOARDS ARE LOOKING AT UM UH, A SYSTEM WHERE IT'S REIMBURSED OFF. WHAT YOU ACTUALLY GENERATING SALES TAX ON THE ON THE BACK END FOR FIVE YEARS. BUT THEY STILL WANTED TO KEEP SOME OPTION FOR THE KIND OF THE MOM AND POP ARE THE MORE NICHE TYPE RETAILER. SO. THE BOARDS. THE BOARDS ARE WRESTLING WITH WITH THOSE OPTIONS. ONE IS PURE KIND OF WHAT YOU PRODUCE YOU. YOU GET A REIMBURSEMENT ON VERSUS THE FRONT END GRANT FOR SOME OF THOSE MORE. UH, ECLECTIC OR UNIQUE RUBBER. RETAILERS. MHM PROCEDURALLY MAYOR. I WOULD SUGGEST WE JUST TAKE A VOTE ON THIS, AS IS AND IF IT PASSES IT PASSES. IF IT FAILS, THEN WE SEND IT BACK TO P. N Z. E D. C

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C, D C, BBC CBC. YES, SIR. I DIDN'T SAY I WAS GONNA MOTION. I JUST PROCEDURALLY IT MIGHT BE THE WAY TO GO APOLOGIZE. ALRIGHT. ANYONE ELSE WANT TO TALK ON THIS? I AGREE WITH THE MAYOR AND WENT TO OTHER PEOPLE HAVE SAID, LIKE THERE'S MULTIPLE WAYS TO LOOK AT THIS SITUATION, AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THAT COMPANY GOING OUT OF BUSINESS, WHICH WAS IMMEDIATELY REPLACED BY ANOTHER COMPANY, USING THE SAME BILL THAT I DON'T LIKE THAT'S CAUSED ANY FINANCIAL HARM OF THE TOWN, SO I DON'T SEE WHY WE SHOULD REALLY TRY TO STRONG ARM SOMEONE WHO'S ALREADY COME UP HERE AND SAID THEY DON'T HAVE THE FUNDS TO PAY IT BACK RIGHT NOW. UM WE CAN TRY AND ARE ALL DAY LONG, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE THE MONEY. THEY DON'T HAVE THE MONEY. THE PRESIDENT STILL SCARES ME, TOO. MR FOWLER'S POINT, IF IT WAS, LET'S SAY TEXAS ROADHOUSE WENT OUT OF BUSINESS. AND THEY COME AND ASK FOR FORGIVENESS AND WE HAVE PRECEDENTS. AND WHAT WAS THEIR GRANT? I KNOW THEY'RE ALMOST PAID OFF $250,000 UP FRONT AND THEN THE NEXT FOUR YEARS WE'RE OFF OF WHAT THEY PRODUCED, AND I DON'T KNOW. ACTUALLY, WE CAN SPEAK TO PRESIDENT. WE HAVE A WE HAVE A KIND OF A CUSTOM PRESIDENT, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE A LEGAL PRECEDENT. NO DISCRETIONARY. OKAY MR. MAYOR PRETEND SOMEONE'S GONNA HAVE TO MOTION IF YOU WANT TO FOLLOW YOUR APPROACHING APPROACH. ALL RIGHT. NO ONE ELSE DOES. I'M GOING TO GO THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION AND MAKE A MOTION TO DENY. UM, AND SEND IT BACK TO A D. C. C. D. C. HAVE IT. SECOND BY COUNCILOR GANZ. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION. STAFF THIS IS SO WE UNDERSTAND WHAT COMMUNICATE WITH THE D C AND C D. C. THIS IS TO LEAVE THE LIABILITY OPEN WITH THE OWNERS OF THE ETCETERA BUT ALLOW FOR AS LONG AS THE BOUTIQUE. RIVER BLUE IS AN EXISTENCE IT IT IT FORGIVES A YEAR THAT I DON'T THINK WE'RE I THINK IT'S A REJECTION OF THE PROPOSAL AND ASKING 80 CC SEATED, LISTEN TO OUR COMMENTS AND COME UP WITH A DIFFERENT PROPOSAL. JUST JUST GO ONLINE AND NOT ASKING FOR A AGREEMENT HERE AT THIS POINT, JUST SEND IT BACK TO THE CDC. WE WERE JUST TRYING TO CAPTURE THE DIRECTION OF THE COMMENTS. YEAH AND THAT'S FINE. THEY SHOULD LISTEN TO THIS COMMENTARY AND GET EVERYTHING FROM IT. BUT MY MOTION IS TO DENY WHAT'S IN THE PACKET AND SEND IT BACK TO A D. C. C C AND ASKED THEM TO MODIFY IT. BASED ON THIS COMMENTARY TO SOMETHING THAT WE COULD PASS, OKAY. WE WERE JUST TRYING TO CAPTURE THAT. COMMENTARY. I THINK IT'S CRITICAL THAT THEY HAVE THE AUDIO FROM THIS VIDEO FOR A CONVERSATION. COUNCILOR GANS.

ARE YOU GOOD WITH MY MOTION? OKAY, ALRIGHT THE MOTION AND THE SECOND IS OUT. PLEASE VOTE. SIX

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AND ONE. YEAH. YEAH, IT'S. YEAH WE JUST THE WAY THE SYSTEM SET UP AND SHOWS MOTION IMPROVED, BUT WE KNOW IT'S AN EMOTION TO DENY. YES, SIR. OKAY? ALRIGHT ITEM D. CONSIDERED ORANGE TO THE

[5.D. Consider an Ordinance of the Town of Northlake, Texas, designang a geographic area within the Town as a Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone pursuant to Chapter 311 of the Texas Tax Code, to be known as ReinvestmentZone Number Two, Town of Northlake, Texas i. Public hearing- Connued from August 10, 2023 ii. Consider Approval]

TOWN DESIGNATED GEOGRAPHIC GEOGRAPHIC KERRY WITHIN TOWN AS A TRES PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 3 11, TEXAS TAX GOING TO BE KNOWN AS REINVESTMENT ZONE NUMBER TWO TOWN OF NORTH LAKE, TEXAS. WE HAVE TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING. ARE WE GOING TO HAVE A SUMMARY FIRST? ALRIGHT. WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS QUITE A WHILE. THIS IS PART OF THE LARGER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. THIS IS THE WHO WOULD DEVELOPMENT. UM. THIS IS THE AREA THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. OVER 800 ACRES.

UM UM, ALMOST 20 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF WAREHOUSE SPACE. THE THERE ARE SOME SOME MINOR CHANGES OR CHANGES FROM THE AGREEMENT YOU HAVE IN YOUR PACKET. WE'LL COVER THESE. YOU HAVE THAT REVISED AGREEMENT AT YOUR SEAT AT THE DIOCESE. UM SO . SPECIFIES THAT ONLY REAL PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE TEARS ARE ELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE PROJECT REIMBURSEMENTS. THE PROPERTY OWNER IS GOING TO BUILD THE PROJECTS AS AS IN THE AGREEMENT AND IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. AND THEN THE PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE THE ABILITY IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE TOWN TO CHANGE THE PROJECT LIST OR THE IMPROVEMENTS. UM AND THEN THERE'S SOME CLARIFICATIONS AND EXHIBIT C. AND THEN FINALLY, UM THE. IT WOULD REPRESENTATIVE ROBERT. FALLS IN LOGAN WOULD

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LIKE TO REQUEST A BOARD SEAT AND WE HE CAN JUSTIFY THAT. IF COUNCIL CONSIDERS THAT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN WHAT TYPICALLY HAPPENS IS WE ONLY HAVE ONE OTHER TOUR, SO WE ONLY HAVE REALLY ONLY ONE OUT OF THE DATA POINT. AND THAT'S THE CANYON FALLS TOURS AND THE COUNCIL BECAUSE IT'S ONLY NORTHLAKE. THAT'S AH! CONTRIBUTING TAX OR INCREMENTS. IT CAN BE THE COUNCIL. SO JUST FOR EFFICIENCY SAKE, AND BECAUSE OF THIS, THE MAYOR MENTIONED EARLIER, WE IN THE PAST HAD TROUBLE WITH VOLUNTEERS. THE COUNCIL WOULD SERVE AS THE TERRORIST BOARD, AND WE'D WE BREAK THE COUNCIL MEETING YOU YOU WOULD SIT AS THE TOURS AND THEN YOU STOP THE TOURS MEETING AND COME BACK AS A COUNCIL. SO IT WAS LIKE A MAGIC . YOU KNOW, YOU'D BE COUNCIL ONE MINUTE. THE NEXT ACTION WILL BE THE TOURS, SO THAT'S BEEN OUR MODEL, BUT A TOURIST BOARD CAN BE, I THINK CAN BE UP TO 25 MEMBERS, SO THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE THEIR PITCH WHERE WE'VE PRESENTED THIS AGREEMENT AS WE HAVE OUR OUR ONE HISTORIC DATA POINT, BUT THOSE ARE THOSE ARE THE CHANGES. AS THE MAYOR SAID, THERE IS A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS AND THEN, UM. ASSUME IF YOU'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE HILLWOOD REPRESENTATIVE. HE CAN SPEAK AFTER THE HEARING OR DURING THE HEARING ABOUT HIS REQUEST OR AND HE'S AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ABOUT. THE PROJECT ITSELF. COUNSELOR. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? I JUST HAVE GENERAL QUESTIONS. ANYTHING SINCE THIS NEW PAPER ARE DOES CHANGE FROM WHAT WAS IN THE PACKET OTHER THAN THE BOARD SEAT THINGS LIKE THAT NUMBERS. ANYTHING CHANGED THERE. JUST JUST THAT THIS THE ITEMS THAT WE'VE HIGHLIGHTED UM, AND THE BOARD SEAT IS NOT IN THE AGREEMENT. WE SET THE AGREEMENT UP AS WELL. OUR STANDARD AND AGAIN. THAT'S JUST ONE IF YOU IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD A SEAT WITH THE PROPERTY ON THE REPRESENTATIVE WOULD ASK THAT YOU DO AN AMENDED MOTION TO ADD THAT SEED AND WE'LL GET THAT PAPERED UP AFTER THE FACT. IT IS. IS A PROPERTY OWNER REQUESTING A BOARD SEAT IS THAT OUT OF THE ORDINARY NO, SIR.

IT'S IN FACT, IT'S QUITE COMMON . SOME OF THESE LARGER TOURS HAVE I SDS INVOLVED. THEY HAVE A COUNTY INVOLVED, AND SO THEY'LL HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THAT AND NUMBER OF THE TOURS IN FOOT WORTH THAT. HILLWOOD PART OF THEY HAVE A SEAT ON THAT, SO IT'S NOT. IT'S NOT UNUSUAL AT ALL. UH, IT'S JUST WE'VE ONLY DONE IT ONCE, AND IT WAS. IT WAS MORE JUST OUT OF KIND OF CONVENIENCE AND LOGISTICS. ANYTHING FURTHER. 6 28 PM LET'S OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH HAS BEEN CARRIED OVER FROM AUGUST 10TH. IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THE TOPIC OF THE TERRACE TONIGHT? ALRIGHT STILL 6 28 PM CLOSED. SORRY. PLEASE. THE HILLWOOD REPRESENTATIVES GOING TO SPEAK FIRST. IS HE GOING TO SPEAK? I WON'T GO AHEAD. NO. OKAY, UM. I HOPE EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THAT A TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE IS TAKING THE TAXES OR PORTION OF THOSE TAXES FROM THAT AREA AND REINVESTING IT IN THAT AREA . WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT TAKES AWAY FROM ALL THE OTHER AREAS OF TOWN WHERE THOSE TAXES WOULD GO TOWARDS THOSE OTHER SERVICES THAT OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE AND ALL THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. I THINK EVERYONE HERE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A TOURS ON THEIR PROPERTY SO THEY COULD TAKE THE TAXES GENERATED BY THEIR OWN PROPERTY AND PUT IT BACK INTO THEIR PROPERTY. I THINK THAT IS A GENERAL WISH WANT FROM VIRTUALLY ANYBODY, BUT WE DON'T GET TO DO THAT. SO I WOULD SAY I WOULD SUGGEST YOU TO TURN THIS DOWN AND LET THOSE TAX REVENUES GO INTO THE GENERAL FUND. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. TERRORISTS MAY ONLY BE USED FOR PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE CANNOT BE USED ON PRIVATE INFRASTRUCTURE. THESE ARE PUBLIC ROADS, PUBLIC ASSETS. PUBLIC WATER TOWER CANNOT. I UNDERSTAND, BUT YOU DIDN'T SAY THAT. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? ALL RIGHT. WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6 29. PM. AT THIS TIME WE WILL DISCUSS DID YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING ELSE? YOU'RE GOOD. YOUR REQUEST IS ON THE RECORD. VERY GOOD. ANYTHING FURTHER. COUNCIL MEMBERS. YOUR DISCUSSION. IS THE VOTE. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE, UM, GOING TO INCLUDE A POSITION FOR HILLWOOD ON THIS TOURS, OR WE JUST VOTING TO COREY CREATE THE TERRORS. AND THEN THAT'S ANOTHER BOAT. THE VOTE AS SHOWN ON THE AGENDA. ONE MORE SLIDE. IS TO CREATE THE TOURS. UM AS WE'VE DISCUSSED AND WITH THOSE CHANGES IN THOSE

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FIRST TWO BULLET POINTS IF YOU IF YOU SO CHOOSE. YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION TO INCLUDE AN EIGHTH SEAT ON THE TERMS BOARD IF YOU IF YOU MOTION AS WRITTEN. IT WILL NOT INCLUDE AN EIGHT SEAT FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER. I PERSONALLY WILL NOT BE MAKING THAT MOTION. I CONCUR. WE CAN HANDLE IT.

ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT THE STOMACH? I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVED THE TERMS. OKAY MOTION TO APPROVE HAS BEEN SUBMITTED LIKE COUNCILOR SESSIONS. IS THERE A SECOND? DID YOU GET THAT? OKAY THANK YOU. ALRIGHT SECONDED BY THE MAYOR PRETEND MONTINI ANY FURTHER

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DISCUSSION. ALRIGHT, LET'S VOTE. ALL RIGHT. MOTION PASSES SEVEN AND OH, ALL RIGHT. ITEM E

[5.E. Consideraon by the Town of Northlake, Texas, ofa proposal by the board of the BelmontFresh Water Supply District #1 for connuaon of police services]

CONSIDERATION. 10 NORTHLAKE A PROPOSAL BY THE BOARD OF FRESHWATER SUPPLY DISTRICT NUMBER ONE FOR CONTINUATION OF POLICE SERVICES. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF ITEMS IN HERE THAT ARE TWINED RELATED TO THE PIT AS WELL, WHICH HAS BEEN PART OF OUR DISCUSSIONS THAT WERE CARRIED OVER. SO WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF THINGS TO DISCUSS HERE TONIGHT. AND GET THROUGH THE PYD, THEN AN ADJUSTMENT TO OUR BUDGET DEPENDING ON WHAT WE DO WITH THE PYD AND THEN GOING ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO ITEM H DEPENDING ON WHAT KIND OF DIRECTION WE GO. WE HAVE TO TAKE DIFFERENT ACTION ITEMS. SO YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT THIS? NO. WE'VE GOT. THEIR THEIR PROPOSAL IN OUR RESPONSE, AND YOU'VE SEEN THOSE SLIDES BEFORE, AND I CAN GO THROUGH THE STEPS WHEN WE GET THERE OF WHAT WE NEED TO KIND OF THE IF THEN STATEMENT TO FLOW CHART, BUT WE WHENEVER YOU'RE READY, I'LL WALK YOU THROUGH THAT. OKAY SO LET ME TRY TO PROVIDE SOME CONTEXT AND THEN PROVIDE YOU AN UPDATE WITH A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF NEGOTIATION THAT'S BEEN GOING ON. LET'S PUT THIS THING ALL OVER THE MAP, AND THEN ALL THE WAY BACK TO SOMETHING I CAN PRESENT TO YOU TONIGHT THAT HOPEFULLY WILL BE WORKABLE. SO WE'VE BEEN NEGOTIATING FOR SOME TIME WITH BELMONT FRESHWATER SUPPLY DISTRICT ON THE PRICE FOR POLICE SERVICES THEY'VE ESTABLISHED THAT THEY DO WANT THE POLICE SERVICES. THEY DO WANT SIMILAR SERVICE. YEAH, BUT THEY DON'T WANT IT AT THE AT THE PROPOSED PRICE POINT. WE'VE STILL GOT A DISTANCE BETWEEN THE TWO. I THINK THAT SUMMARIZES BASICALLY WHERE WE WERE. AS OF OUR LAST MEETING. WE DID NOT HAVE AN AGREEMENT THEY PROPOSED TO COUNTER TO WHAT WE HAD PUT OUT THERE. OUR BELIEF IS THAT THE FULLY LOADED COST OF THE FOUR OFFICERS AND AH, THE ADMINISTRATIVE OVERHEAD BUILDINGS, CARS AND ALL THAT GAS IS GOING TO REACH $760,000 FOR THE FULL BUILD OUT OF HARVEST.

THEY'RE NOT AT FULL BUILD OUT AND SO PROPORTIONATE WHAT THEY'RE NOT AT BUILD OUT YET PUTS THEM RIGHT AROUND THE 700,000 MARK, WHICH IS BASICALLY THE LOWEST NUMBER WE COULD GET TO THAT PROVIDES FOR SERVICE FOR HARVEST. THAT'S NOT A NUMBER OF THE BELMONT FOREST WATER SUPPLY DISTRICT CAN CAN DEAL WITH. THEY HAVE ASKED FOR A COUPLE OF THINGS AS WE CONTINUE TO NEGOTIATE, BUT IN THE INTERIM SINCE OUR LAST MEETING SOME ADDITIONAL THINGS HAVE COME TO LIGHT. SO LET'S GO TO THE PIT FOR A SECOND. WE TALKED, THERE'S A PID IN HARVEST. THAT PAYS FOR LANDSCAPING. IT'S A $2.3 MILLION TAX DISTRICT. TAX DISTRICT GETS TRANSFERRED THE MONEY'S THERE'S AN ADMINISTRATIVE COST TO IT. AND THEN THERE WAS MONEY GET SWEPT TO THE H O. A. ACTUALLY THAT'S A SMALL PIECE OF IT THAT COMES TO THE TOWN FOR THE PURPOSE OF JUST HAVING THE VOTES MANAGING THE BOARD. OUR GENERAL APPROACH TO THIS IN THE PAST FOR THE LAST 67 YEARS, HOWEVER LONG IT'S BEEN OPEN HAS BEEN JUST TO ADOPT IT PAST THE MONEY IS OVER AND ON WE GO. THIS IS IN ADDITION TO THEIR H O A FEES. THE COST OF THEIR LANDSCAPING SERVICE PUBLIC. THIS IS THE PUBLIC PORTIONS. THIS IS PUBLIC SPACE PORTION OF THEIRS IS THAT 21 CENTS $2.3 MILLION. AND THEY'VE GOT OVERLAPPING DISTRICTS OVER THERE IS A WHOLE BUNCH OF DIFFERENT THINGS. I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO ALL THE DETAILS OF THEM, BUT THEY GOT TO FRESHWATER SUPPLY DISTRICT BOARDS. THEY'VE GOT AN H O A THEY'VE GOT THE PID. AND ALL OF THESE DISTRICTS DON'T QUITE PERFECTLY OVERLAP. AND SO THERE ARE GAPS IN POCKETS AND TO THE H O HAS MADE UP SOME SOME DIFFERENCES TO TRY TO GET THE EQUITY THAT THEY NEED FROM EACH HOUSEHOLD. BUT IN GENERAL, A TAX DISTRICT OF 21 CENTS MEANS THAT YOUR HIGHEST COST HOMES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD PAY THE MOST AND

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THEN INCREMENTALLY AS YOU THINK ABOUT THE VALUES, WHICH COULD GO ANYWHERE FROM THE THREE HUNDREDS FROM A TAXABLE VALUE, NOT NECESSARILY REAL ESTATE VALUE ALL THE WAY UP TO 8 $900,000 TAXABLE VALUE ON A MILLION DOLLAR HOME. THAT'S KIND OF WHERE IT TOPS OUT. I THINK AT THIS POINT IN HARVEST SO WE SPENT. SOME HOURS AND NEGOTIATIONS NEVER REALLY GETTING ANYWHERE AND CONTINUING TO RUN AROUND A LITTLE BIT. I WANT TO STOP FOR ONE SECOND. AND GIVE SOME CREDIT TO THE PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD. HE'S BEEN JUST. INCESSANT AND A GOOD WAY TO TRY AND RESOLVE THIS SITUATION. WHICH IS NOT GOOD FOR ANYBODY. AND SO I WANT TO GIVE HIM SOME CREDIT. MR. JOHNSON'S BEEN TERRIFIC AT THIS, AND HE'S JUST BEEN CONTINUING EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO FIND A WAY AROUND THE IMPASSE TO GET US TO A SITUATION IN A WORK. WE'VE GOT A COUPLE ACTIONS THAT THE TOWN NEEDS TO TAKE. SO ONE. WE'VE GOT TO GET TO AN AGREEMENT ON POLICE SERVICES. WHO WE DO THAT AGREEMENT WITH IS ACTUALLY AN INTERESTING QUESTION. WE'LL GET TO THAT SECOND. THE 21 CENT TAX RATE. WE HAVE A COUPLE OPTIONS WITH THIS THAT ARE UNILATERAL IN NATURE. AND SO I BROACHED THIS IN THE LAST MEETING. WE HAVE THE OPTION TO SAY WE DON'T WANT TO DEAL WITH THE PIT ANYMORE, AND WE CAN STOP IT. SINCE OUR LAST MEETING. AT FIRST THERE WAS SOME CONCERN THAT WE'D BE DE FUNDING THE NEIGHBORHOOD. ACTUALLY IT APPEARS THE H O A IS CAPABLE AND HAS THE RIGHT TO CHANGE THEIR H O A DUES TO RAISE THEM. TO EQUATE THE MONEY AND ESTABLISH AN EQUITY ACROSS THE NEIGHBORHOOD SO THAT EACH HOUSE PAYS BASICALLY THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WAS PROPOSED IN THE PAST, DIDN'T MEET WITH GOOD SUPPORT. BUT IT'S SINCE IN THE LAST YEAR PLUS HAS BEEN SORT OF DISCUSSED WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND AT LEAST KENDALL AND PATRICIA COME BACK TO ME AND ARTICULATED THAT THEY DO BELIEVE THAT'S IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT THE PIT BE CLOSED. NOW WE HAVE A COUPLE OTHER OPTIONS WE CAN TAKE. WE CAN CLOSE THE PIT. WE CAN LEAVE THE PIT, AS IS WE CAN LEAVE THE PIT AS IS AND FUND THE POLICE OUT OF THE PIT, WHICH WOULD DEFUND A THIRD OF THE LANDSCAPING BUDGET AND JUST FUND THE POLICE SERVICES WITHOUT ANY MORE DISCUSSION WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT'S A VERY UNILATERAL ACTION. I'VE BEEN TOLD. THAT'S NOT GOING TO GO OVER WELL. AS WE CAN EXPECT.

THERE'S 1/4 OPTION AND JUST RAISING THE TAX RATE TO MEET THE INCREMENT THAT WE NEED IN ORDER TO FUND THE POLICE SERVICES, PROBABLY ALSO NOT GOING TO BE VERY WELL RECEIVED. I'M EXPECTING SO THOSE ARE THE OPTIONS WITH REGARD TO THE PIT. LET ME GO BACK TO POLICE SERVICES OVERALL. THE TOWN HAS STEPPED FORWARD TO STANDARD THAT WE NEED TO BE REIMBURSED IN FULL FOR THE POLICE SERVICES BASED ON WHERE WE BELIEVE WE ARE. AT THE SAME TIME, WE HAVE MULTIPLE ENTITIES AND HOW TO ALLOCATE THOSE COSTS. IF IT'S DONE THROUGH THE BELMONT FRESHWATER SUPPLY DISTRICT OR THROUGH THE PIT. IT'S GOING TO CREATE AN INEQUITY FOR EVERY HOUSEHOLD THAT USES THOSE SERVICES FOR POLICE PROTECTION. SOMEBODY COULD BE PAYING ATTACKS BASIS ON A $300,000 HOUSE TIMES SEVEN CENTS THEY MIGHT BE PAYING YOU KNOW A MODEST AMOUNT FOR SOMEONE WHO'S GOT ONE. THAT'S $800,000 THAT COULD BE PAYING 2.5 TIMES WHAT SOMEONE ELSE PAYS DOWN THE STREET FOR THE SAME POLICE SERVICES. POTENTIALLY FOR THE SAME NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN THE HOUSEHOLD. POLICE SERVICES PROTECTS PEOPLE GENERALLY. AND THEN SECONDARILY DOES PROTECT PROPERTY, SO THERE'S DIFFERENT WAYS TO MEASURE THE VALUE THAT'S RECEIVED. THEN THERE'S THE SCALE FACTOR THE DISTANCE ALL THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE TRYING TO PRICE IT APPROPRIATELY AND ESTABLISH SOME EQUITY. BELMONT IS NOT IN A POSITION AND DOES NOT WANT TO BE IN A POSITION TO PAY FOR THESE SERVICES AT THE RATE THAT WE HAVE SET. THAT BEING SAID. IT APPEARS THE NEIGHBORHOOD STILL WANTS POLICE SERVICES. SO WE CAME UP WITH AN ALTERNATIVE AND THE ALTERNATIVE IS TO ASK THE H O. A TO PAY FOR THE SERVICES. AND WE TALKED THROUGH THE COST. WE TALKED THROUGH SOME COLA'S. WE TALKED THROUGH. THE EQUITIES OF DOING IT THAT WAY. AND. THIS IS THE STRANGE SITUATION IS THAT WHILE I'VE TALKED WITH KENDALL AND PATRICIA ABOUT THIS. THEY ARE NOT REPRESENTING A CONTRACT WITH US. THEY'RE AT. THEY'RE TALKING TO US NOW AS A BELMONT BOARD AND TALKING TO PEOPLE AND PROVIDING SOME FEEDBACK ON AN APPROACH TO GO THE WHOLE WAY INSTEAD OF WITH BELMONT. THE PROPOSAL THAT I PUT FORWARD. HAS A COUPLE OF SWEETENERS IN IT. AND THIS IS ME NEGOTIATING. SO COUNCIL YOU GET TO OVERRIDE ME ANYWAY, YOU WANT BUT THIS IS BEEN TRYING TO GET TO AN AGREEMENT. BUT. THE STRUCTURE OF THE AGREEMENT WOULD BE AS FOLLOWS. AND I WROTE THIS ALL OUT, BUT WE NEVER GOT TO A POINT WHERE WE COULD SIGN A DOCUMENT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY DEALING WITH THAT BOARD AND IT'S REPRESENTATIVE OF JUST DEALING WITH PEOPLE. THE PROPOSAL PUT FORWARD TO BE $22 PER MONTH. COST. PASSED ON TO EACH RESIDENT. THAT'S IN THE

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ORIGINAL HOME THAT IS OCCUPIED. IN HARVEST PER MONTH THROUGH THE H O A. B, A PASTOR. AND EACH SUBSEQUENT YEAR IT WOULD GO UP BY $1. FROM 22 TO 23 23 24 24 25. IT WOULD TERMINATE WHEN THE DEBT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT TERMINATES IN 2027. AND SO THE BELMONT AGREEMENT, THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE FOR ALL SERVICES. EVERYTHING WOULD COME TO AN END AND BE RENEGOTIATED IN 2027. SO NUMBER ONE. IT GETS US A TRAJECTORY NUMBER TWO GETS US THE COST OF LIVING. ADJUSTMENT COST COST COST INCREMENT. FOR THE INCREMENTAL COST INCREASES.

IT WOULDN'T START UNTIL NEXT YEAR. SO IT A LOT OF RUNOFF FOR BELMONT TO CONTINUE TO PAY THE RATE THEY'RE PAYING UP UNTIL JANUARY. AND THEN IT WOULD GO INTO FULL EFFECT. AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS BECAUSE THEY CAN'T RETROACTIVELY GO BACK. AND GET GET MONEY FROM THE TAX DISTRICT AT THIS POINT IN THE YEAR AND PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF A RUNOFF. IT WOULD ALSO INCLUDE.

TOO TOO SWEET NURSES. I SAID ONE WOULD BE WE WOULD PROVIDE WERE IN GENERAL THE PHILOSOPHY AS WE PROVIDE THE SAME SERVICE IN THE TOWN OF NORTH LAKE. WE'RE NOW HIRING CROSSING GUARDS FOR JOHNNY DANIEL ELEMENTARY. THEY'RE ALSO TRYING TO SOURCE AND HIGHER CROSSING GUARDS FOR LANCE THOMPSON IN NORTHWEST I SD WITHIN HARVEST. ARE GONNA LIE. SD HAS THEIR OWN APPROACH TO THAT. AND SO THEY'RE ABLE TO COVER A LITTLE BIT OF THAT. AND SO THEY'RE THEY'RE POLICE SERVICES HAVE A RELATIONSHIP. THEY'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE SOME OF THAT THAT NEED SO THEY HAVE A NEED TO FIX ONE SCHOOL. THAT SCHOOL IS PROBABLY ANYWHERE FROM 50% TO HIRE NORTHLAKE PROPER STUDENTS. AND SO THERE'S SOME EQUITY THERE AND BEING ABLE TO COVER THAT. UH, AND THEN ALSO WE DO HAVE FLOCKED CAMERAS AND IN THE TOWN, AND WE PROVIDED THEM TO EACH NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S REQUESTED THEM. THE BOARD IS ASKING FOR THAT SERVICE AS WELL. AND SO WE WOULD PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT BETTER SERVICE THAN WE DO TODAY. THE HARVEST WOULD GET CAMERAS WOULD GET CROSSING GUARDS AND WE'D GET A COST INCREMENT RUN OFF FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS AND THEN WOULD GET A RATE. THAT WOULD BASICALLY GET US TO WHERE WE'VE ASKED FOR. NOW, THE RUNOFF SAY, WELL, THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. WELL, WE DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE THE OFFICERS IN HAND RIGHT NOW. WE NEED THE OFFICERS THAT ARE CURRENTLY PATROLLING HARVEST TO FALL BACK TO THE TOWN TO COVER THE TOWN.

IF WE COME TO AN AGREEMENT WILL HAVE SOME MONTHS TO TRY TO GET THOSE NEW OFFICERS ON BOARD AND RAISE OUR NUMBER OF OFFICERS AND CARS AND GET US TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE SO THE CASH ISN'T FLOWING OUT THE DOOR AT THIS MOMENT. FOR THAT INSTRUMENT THAT WILL NEED NEXT YEAR AND SO HAVING A RUN OFF OF A COUPLE OF MONTHS CAN MAKE SOME SENSE. SO THAT'S THE STRUCTURE THE BASIC STRUCTURE OF THE AGREEMENT. THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER LITTLE LITTLE NUANCES IN THERE, BUT FROM A COST STANDPOINT, $22 A MONTH TIMES THE NUMBER OF HOMES THAT THEY HAVE. THEY HAVE 2300 AND SEVEN AT THIS POINT AND SO I BELIEVE I RAN THOSE NUMBERS CORRECTLY GETS US TO 66 90 VERY CLOSE TO I NEED TO DOUBLE CHECK THAT NUMBER APOLOGIZE. MAKE SURE I'M DOING THAT RIGHT? ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. YOU'RE GONNA THINK IT IN YOUR HEAD. GO AHEAD. 6 609,006 09. I THINK I GOT THAT NUMBER RIGHT? AND THE INCREMENT WILL RISE EVENTUALLY TO, UM. 810,000. SO THE INCREMENTS GONNA GO FROM BELOW TO ABOVE. IT'S GONNA, IT'S GONNA FOLD IN AND WE'RE GOING TO GET SOME VACANCY SAVINGS OVER THE NEXT 6 TO 12 MONTHS BECAUSE WE WON'T BE ABLE TO IMMEDIATELY INCREMENT UP BY FOUR. AND SO THAT IS A BASICALLY A COUNTER OFFER A COUNTER COUNTER OFFER TO WHAT THIS IS IN FRONT OF US, BECAUSE WHAT WAS IN FRONT OF US DIDN'T APPEAR TO BE AGREEABLE AT OUR LAST MEETING, AND SO IN AN EFFORT TO TRY TO GET YOU SOMETHING ELSE, WE DON'T HAVE ALL THAT WRITTEN DOWN IN FRONT OF YOU. SO TONIGHT'S ACTION ITEM FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION IS TO ONE CLOSED THE PIT. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN ASKED FOR. WE HAVE TALKED TO HILLWOOD THAT THEY ARE CAPABLE OF SWITCHING OVER TO THE O. A. THEY'RE IN CHARGE OF THE RIGHT NOW. IT'LL SWITCH TO RESIDENT CONTROL IN THE BEGINNING OF NEXT YEAR. AND SO MY RECOMMENDATIONS TO YOU BASED ON WORKING WITH WITH KENDALL IS TO TAKE ACTION TO ZERO THE PIT AND ALLOW THEM A COUPLE OF MONTHS TO REDO THE H O A COSTS. AND SECOND TO REQUEST THAT THEY TAKE ON THE CONTRACT WITH THE POLICE SERVICES IF WE CAN'T GET THAT AFFECTED IN THE NEXT 45 50 DAYS AND GET TO AGREEMENT. THEN WE'LL HIT A POINT AT WHICH WE HIT NOVEMBER 1ST, AND WE'LL NEED TO DO A RUNOFF 90 DAY NOTICE TO

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END OUR RELATIONSHIP. THE MAYOR WOULD WASN'T THERE. I THOUGHT THIS AGREEMENT WITH BELMONT IF WE DIDN'T COME TO AN AGREEMENT BY SEPTEMBER, WAS IT SEPTEMBER 1ST ORIGINALLY SEPTEMBER. 4TH WAS 90 DAYS AFTER THEIR. THEY'RE THEY'RE DECLINATION OF OUR ACCOUNT OR PROPOSAL. YES BUT WHEN DID THE CONTRACT ACTUALLY EXPIRE? UH, THE CONTRACT IS EVERGREEN. IT HAS A 90 DAY. UM TERMINATION NOTIFICATION TERMINATION. I FEEL LIKE WE'RE REALLY SPINNING OUR WHEELS ON THIS ONE, EVEN THOUGH MAYOR IS DOING A LOT OF GOOD WORK THERE, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE MAKING A DEAL THAT WE'RE NOT TALKING IS THE H O A THE PEOPLE IN POWER. THE SHOULD COME OUT AND SAID YES, WE WANT TO TAKE THIS ON. OR IS IT JUST BEEN A FEW RESIDENTS ENGAGE WAY SHOULD TAKE IT OFF.

THE H O A IS CONTROLLED BY HILL WOODEN. SO I'M TALKING WITH HILLWOOD REPRESENTATIVES.

THEY'RE CAPABLE OF DOING THIS. THE AMOUNTS OF MONEY ARE NOT AGREE JUST TO THEM. AND THEY'RE THEY'RE WILLING TO DISCUSS PUTTING A CONTRACT TOGETHER. BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT THEY'VE AGREED TO YET. AND IF WE GO DOWN THAT PATH, WHETHER OR NOT THE HOMEOWNER ACTUALLY PAYS THEIR H O A DUES, WHICH IS A BIG PROBLEM IN SOME H O S. WELL, WE STILL COLLECT THE FUNDS WHETHER OR NOT THEY COLLECT THEM FROM THE RESIDENTS. ONE OF THE ITEMS IS THAT THE H WAY HAS TO PAY.

BEFORE THE FULL RATE FOR ALL OF THE HOME CENTER, THEN AN OCCUPANCY, THE RATE AT WHICH THEY ARE UNABLE TO COLLECT HAS TO BE STILL HAS TO BE MADE WHOLE. I STILL THINK WE'RE GIVING TOO MUCH AWAY. UM 22 BUCKS A MONTH. THAT'S 2 60 A YEAR FOR POLICE COVERAGE. EQUAL TO WHAT NORTHLAKE TAXPAYERS OR GETTING. UNFORTUNATELY NORTHLAKE TAXPAYERS ARE PAYING ABOUT 500 BUCKS A YEAR. FOR POLICE COVERAGE, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT 2 60 A YEAR. PER HOME IN HARVEST.

FOR THE EXACT SAME POLICE COVERAGE. I JUST THINK WE'RE GIVING UP TOO MUCH IF I LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS THAT THEY PROPOSED THEY'RE AWFULLY SIMILAR TO WHAT THEY PROPOSED BEFORE. WE COUNTERED WITH THE 7 61 IS THAT CORRECT? THIS IS LEFT OVER FROM THE LAST TIME EVERYTHING I JUST DESCRIBED TO YOU. IT CAME AFTER THIS. WAS WAS PRINTED. AND SO YOU CAN THROW THAT SHEET AWAY BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WE'RE NOT NEGOTIATING THAT. ALRIGHT, WELL, EITHER WAY. TO 60. FOR WHAT NORTH LAKE RESIDENTS ARE PAYING $500 PLUS FOR IS SWEETHEART DEAL AS HUNTER BIDEN WOULD SAY. YES I WOULD AGREE THAT THERE IS A AN APPARENT INEQUITY. THE PROBLEM IS THAT WE'RE PAYING FOR THE PRESERVATION OF A LARGE SCALE RESIDENTIAL ZONE. AND WE'RE GETTING. WE'RE ALSO GETTING SUBSIDIZED BY A LARGE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT. WE ARE PAYING FOR THE PRIVILEGE OF HOLDING OUR TOWN AND DOING WHAT WE WANT. THEY ARE PAYING AND PROPOSING TO PAY AND WHAT WE CALCULATED IS ONLY THE INCREMENTAL COST OF ADDING TO OUR SERVICES. WE GET THE BENEFIT OF HAVING ADDITIONAL PEOPLE IN THE DEPARTMENT, WHICH IF WE NEED THEM, WE CAN CALL ON THEM. SO THAT'S THE BENEFIT TO US IS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO FULLY PAY FOR THOSE FOUR RESOURCES AND AT THE SAME TIME WE GET THE USE OF THOSE RESOURCES WHEN WE NEED THEM WHEN THERE'S MULTIPLE PEOPLE HAVE TO RESPOND TO A CALL. HAVING MORE FORCE STRUCTURE FOR US IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE REALLY BEEN TRYING TO GET TO. WE NEED TO HAVE MORE ON DAY AND NIGHT. WE NEED OFFICERS TO BE IN THE FIELD WITH SOMEONE CLOSE BY ANOTHER VEHICLE FOR ALMOST EVERY STOP THEY MAKE. THEY NEED SOMEONE ELSE WITH THEM. AND IF YOU'VE ONLY GOT TWO OR THREE PEOPLE ON AT A TIME YOU GOT ONE BACK AT HEADQUARTERS DOING SOME PAPERWORK AT NIGHT. YOU'VE GOT TWO TIED UP ON A STOP, AND IT HAPPENS THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT AND THERE'S NO COVERAGE IN THE REST OF THE TOWN. WE HAVE A SERIOUS NEED TO GET TO A LARGER POLICE FORCE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE COVERAGE THROUGHOUT THE TOWN BECAUSE OF THE THREATS THAT WE'RE FACING. SO THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE MONEY AS YOU'RE POINTING OUT. I'M JUST POINTING OUT THAT THAT'S THE BENEFIT TO US. IT'S NOT FINANCIAL. THE ONLY THING WE CAN HOPE TO ACCOMPLISH BY HAVING A RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM IS COVERING THE COST OF SERVICE.

NOT PROFITING FROM IT. WELL IF THEY GO TO SOMEBODY ELSE FOR COVERAGE, LET'S SAY THEY A NEIGHBORING TOWN. ARE THEY GOING TO GET IT FOR 2 60 A YEAR. I DOUBT IT. YEAH, THEY'RE ACTUALLY CHARGING BELMONT, 2 TO 40 OR 2 50 THIS YEAR. WHICH IS THE OTHER SIDE. I HAVE MADE THE POINT THAT THEY ARE BENEFITING. SIGNIFICANTLY FROM THE COVERAGE PROTECTION AT NORTH LAKE PROVIDES. AND SO THAT'S UNFORTUNATE. BUT, UM ARGYLE DOES PROVIDE COVERAGE FOR THE SMALL PORTION OF OUR OUT OF HARVEST, CLOSING BELMONT FRESH WATER TO A QUARTER OF THE SIZE. YES OKAY.

IT'S ALSO FAIRLY PROTECTED BECAUSE IT'S ALL OFF HARVEST WAY RIGHT. AND AS A RESULT, WE END

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UP PROVIDING THE BUBBLE PREDICTION FOR THE AREA AND THE 407 PROTECTION AND FORCE PROTECTION FOR THE DETERRENCE FACTOR, WHICH KEEPS AT LEAST SOME OF THE THREAT OFF THE STREETS OF HARVEST. AND THAT'S THAT BENEFITS COVERAGE THAT'S PROVIDED BY ARGYLE WHO JUST RESPOND TO THE ORIGIN SERVICE CALLS TRUE SLIDE OVER TO THE FUNDING SLIDE WITH THE VEHICLES AND THE POLICE OFFICER BACK TO THEIR AREA. SO WHAT I'M HEARING FROM YOU, MAYOR IS THAT THIS PER OFFICER COSTS EVEN THOUGH WE'RE DEDICATING FOR OFFICERS TO HARVEST THAT'S JUST PART OF THEIR DAY. THEY ARE NOT GOING IN THERE BEGINNING TO SHIFT AND STAYING THERE THE ENTIRE SHIFT AND LEAVING AT THE END OF SHIFT , CORRECT. THERE'S NO ASSIGNED OFFICER. THERE WON'T BE A PERSON WITH HARVEST ON THEIR BADGE OR SOMETHING. NO THEY WILL PATROL THE ENTIRE TOWN WITH THE REST OF THE FORCE. THEY WILL UTILIZE APPROPRIATE MEASURES TO MEASURE AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE MONITORING. RING PATROLLING. UH VISITING COMMUNITY EVENTS THE SAME AS THEY DO FOR ALL OF NORTH LAKE NEIGHBORHOODS. AND MAKE SURE THAT THE PROPORTIONAL SHARE OF COVERAGE IS THE SAME ALL ACROSS THE WAY BECAUSE NO, WE DON'T HAVE PATROL COVERAGE 100% OF THE TIME IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, EITHER WE GET AN HOUR OR TWO A DAY. FOR NEIGHBORHOOD OF COVERAGE, AND THEN YOU GET EMERGENCY SERVICE CALLS AND YOU GET PROTECTION AROUND THE STREETS AND PATROL ON SOME OF THE MAIN ROADS AND PAPERWORK BACK AND ARREST AND GOING UP TO THE JAIL AND TRAINING. ALL OF THE OTHER THINGS. THERE WILL BE NO DEDICATION OF OR TRACKING ON AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY STAY WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF HARVEST. THEY ARE JUST PART OF THE EXHILARATION OF THE OF THE FULL FORCE, AND THEY'LL BE APPLIED AND PROPORTIONAL RELATIONSHIP TO THE SAME WAY WE DO THE ENTIRE REST OF FORCE ACROSS THE TOWN. YES, BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT CHIEF HAS PUT THE COUNCIL SAYING THAT TOO. KEEP COVERING HARVEST. WE HAVE TO TAKE OUR EXISTING FORCE IN THAT FOUR OFFICERS TO CONTINUE COVERING THEM AT THE EXPECTED RATE OF SERVICE, SO THAT'S WHY IT'S NOT 520. OR $560 PER HOUSEHOLD BECAUSE THEIR NATURAL DENSITY AND EVERYTHING ELSE WE CAN COVER THAT MANY HOMES 10 TIMES FASTER. AS WELL. WELL YES, BUT THE DENSITY THERE THAT'S NOT IN THE RURAL AREAS, NOT IN NORTHRIDGE ESTATES AND COMMUTE TIME BETWEEN THEM. SO THAT IS THAT'S WHERE WE'RE NOT GETTING THE COST PER HOUSEHOLD EQUITY. BUT WE ARE GETTING THE COVERAGE EQUITY. OKAY. HOW MUCH WOULD IT COST THEM IF WE GAVE THE DIRECT COST OF THEM PLUS FUEL? THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE 550 TO $600,000 IS THAT GOOD ESTIMATE? I FORGOT WHAT. FUEL IS WHAT'S OUR FUEL BUDGET ABOUT? 100,000. SO, UM. 25,000 LIVES. YEAH. SO INSTEAD OF LET'S JUST WE'RE JUST PRETENDING INSTEAD OF 700 SOMETHING, $1000. WE'RE GONNA CHARGE THEM IN THE HIGH FIVES. HOW MUCH WOULD THAT MEAN? THEY'D HAVE TO PAY FOR A MONTH. BACK TO MIKE'S POINT OF THAT YOU'RE NOT PAYING AS MUCH 57,000. FOR A LITTLE UNDER A LITTLE UNDER 50,000. WHAT? WHAT? WHAT WOULD THAT BE PER HOUSEHOLD? 2 52 40. YES. SO IF THEY PAID, UH. 12 IN 2 TO 6.

THAT'S 20. $2 A MONTH. THAT'S WHERE IT COMES FROM 2300 AND SEVEN HOMES. UM TAKING THE PER OFFICER COSTS TIMES FOUR. PROVIDING IT THROUGH IT'S JUST STRAIGHT MATH. BUT IT GETS US TO WHAT WE BELIEVE IS THE CLOSEST NUMBER TWO ARE ACTUAL COSTS AT THIS POINT. AND AS THEY GROW, THE GROWTH IN HOMES AND THE GROWTH AND THE INCREMENT. ADDS TO IT ON THE BACK END A LITTLE BIT. SO IT GOES FROM THE 6098 10/4 YEARS. WHICH GETS US A LITTLE MORE IN THE BACK END IN THE FRONT END. BUT OVERALL, IT WOULD CAP OUT AT $25 A MONTH, WHICH I THINK PART OF THIS IS A POLITICAL PROBLEM AND A TRANSPARENCY PROBLEM IN COMMUNICATING TO HARVEST WHAT VALUE THEY'RE GETTING AND WHAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY PAYING. WHEN YOU'RE THROWING MONEY INTO A PIT AND YOU'RE THROWING MONEY INTO THE, UH, YOU KNOW, INTO BELMONT AND YOU'RE PAYING ALL THESE TAXES AND YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE IT'S GOING. IF YOU'VE GOT SOMETHING ON YOUR BILL, ON YOUR WAY, BILL OR ON YOUR WATER BILL THAT YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE COST IS, YOU'RE PAYING, AND IT'S AN INSTRUMENT THAT DOESN'T CHANGE EVERY MONTH AND YOU CAN COMPARE IT TO SOMETHING ELSE AND SAY I PAID $22 A MONTH AND I GET POLICE SERVICES. OKAY NOW YOU RAISED ITS 23. OKAY DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YOU GET A CHANCE TO CHALLENGE IT. YOU GET A CHANCE TO INTERNALIZE IT IF YOU'RE PAYING INTO A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR POT AND JUST WRITING A BIG CHECK OUT OF IT. YOU REALLY

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CAN'T ASSOCIATE. WHAT DO I PAY FOR THE VALUE I GET, AND THAT'S THE BASIS OF ALL. SUPPLY AND DEMAND WHEN YOU'RE MAKING A TRANSACTION AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT DO I AM I GETTING VALUE FOR WHAT I'M PAYING BUT OUR RESIDENTS DO PAY A VARIABLE RATE BASED ON THEIR HOME TO THE POLICE SERVICES. THAT'S CORRECT , AND WE PAY MORE BECAUSE WE PAY FOR AN ENTIRE TOWN. THEY'RE PAYING FOR. EFFECTIVELY A SQUARE MILE. I GOTTA I'M SORRY. I GOT A QUESTION JUST TO CLARIFY. SO OUR LAST MEETING FROM MY UNDERSTANDING THE 7 61 NUMBER WAS OUR OUR COST. AND BASED ON THE PER MONTH OF THE 22 FOR HOWEVER MANY HOMES 2300. WE'RE LOOKING AT THE HIGH SIXES. IS THAT CORRECT? 609 IT LOOKS LIKE THE TWO FACTORS ARE ONE. THE 7 60 WAS FOR FOUR OFFICERS. UM AND THAT'S FOR FULL BUILD OUT, SO THEY NEED FOUR OFFICERS AT FULL BUILDING. THAT'S THE PROPORTION THERE ARE 2300 HOMES, THEIR ULTIMATE 27. AND SO IF YOU INCREMENT THAT DOWN, IT COMES OFF THE 7 60 A LITTLE BIT AND THEN IF YOU ALSO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE VACANCIES THAT ARE GOING TO OCCUR OVER THE NEXT YEAR, TRYING TO STAFF UP TO THIS NUMBER. THAT GIVES US YOU KNOW SOME SOME COST RELIEF. WHILE WE'RE INCREMENTAL INTO IT, SO IT'S KIND OF SHARES THE CASH FLOW BETWEEN BOTH SIDES. BUT THE I'LL TELL YOU THIS. WHAT I TOLD CANDLE AT THE OPENING OF OUR CONVERSATION REPEATEDLY THROUGH IT AS WE WORK THROUGH SEVERAL ROUNDS OF TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE SOLUTION. WAS THAT NORTH LAKE IS NOT GOING TO ACCEPT ANYTHING LESS THAN THE FULL RECAPTURE OF OUR COSTS, AND THEREFORE THERE WAS NO NEGOTIATION. GOING TO HAPPEN.

THAT WAS GOING TO MOVE US OFF THAT IT WAS NOT GOING TO BE A WELL, YOU FEEL GOOD AT THIS NUMBER, AND WE FEEL GOOD AT THIS NUMBER, AND SO WE'LL JUST SPLIT THE BABY IN THE MIDDLE. THAT WAS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN, SO THAT'S OFF THE TABLE, SO THE COST HAS TO BE THE COST. THEY CAN'T PAY IT. THEREFORE THEY'RE ASKING, CAN YOU DO IT A DIFFERENT WAY? AND I THINK THIS IS ACTUALLY A FAIRLY ELEGANT WAY TO DO IT. THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION ON THAT. ONE CONCERN I HAVE FOR THE RESIDENTS OF HARVEST IS IN 2025 THE SALT TAX EXCESS SALT. TAX DEDUCTION LIMITS EXPIRED. SO IF THIS WAS PART OF THEIR PID AND THEY'RE PAYING. TAXES RIGHT? PID IS TAXES. THESE RATES WOULD BECOME TAX DEDUCTIBLE FOR THEM AND STARTING IN 2025. IF CONGRESS DOESN'T REDO IT, WHICH IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AT THIS POINT IN TIME. UM SO HAVING HOU CAN COLLECT IT. DOES NOT GIVE ANYBODY A TAX BENEFIT. THAT THE PIT WOULD GIVE THE RESIDENTS SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK. IT'S A FUNERAL, OUR ACTION LIKE YOU SAID, AND IT'S STIRRING STUFF OUT THERE. BUT THAT'S SOMETHING TO BE CONSIDERED. I KNOW EVERYBODY LIKES TO GET ANY TAXES. THEY PAID, REIMBURSED. REFUND IT, SO YOU'RE JUMPING ONTO THE PIT AT THIS POINT. I'M JUST BRINGING UP THE POINT OF TAX DEDUCTIBILITY AND FEES ARE NOT TAXED. THAT'S CORRECT FORM.

I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE RIGHT NOW HEADING INTO THIS YEAR BEFORE ALL THE TAX CUTS ARE GOING INTO EFFECT, HARVEST IS PRETTY MUCH ALL CAPPED OUT. AT 10-K. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING THAT CAP EXPIRES IN 2025. TECHNICALLY THESE ARE ASSESSMENTS, NOT TAXES. THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE TEXTED DOCTORAL, BUT I GUESS UNLESS IN THEIR I R S AGENT COMES TO YOUR HOUSEHOLD AND AUDIT YOU. UM OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THE WISER. YES, SIR. WELL I WILL ADD THAT.

UM UH AT THE FIRST ROUND ON THE PIT CLOSING WAS NOT WELL RECEIVED BY THE RESIDENTS, BUT SINCE THAT TIME THEY'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS. KENDALL AND PATRICIA HAVE BEEN SURVEYING PEOPLE THAT THEY KNOW AND TALKING TO THEM ABOUT THIS, AND IT'S BEEN FAIRLY UNANIMOUS THAT THEY WANT THE PEDIGO AND THEY UNDERSTAND ITS IMPLICATIONS. THEY ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT IT MEANS RAISING OF H O A DUES AND IT DOES, BUT THE OUTCOME WOULD BE THAT THEY WOULD MORE EQUITABLY FINANCE THEIR OWN LANDSCAPING. MEANING EVERYBODY WOULD PAY A VERY SIMILAR RATE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT FOR LARGER LOTS. IF YOU HAVE FRONT YARD MAINTENANCE, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW THAT'S A DIFFERENT FEE. BUT IT WOULD BE MUCH MORE EQUITABLE FOR WHAT YOU ENJOY. SINCE EVERYONE GETS TO ENJOY THE PUBLIC SPACES , SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT ALL PARTIES SEEM TO BE IN LARGE AGREEMENT ON AS FAR AS ZEROING THE PIT. THE APPROACH TO USE THE TO FUND POLICE SERVICES IS VERY VIABLE. AND SEEMS TO BE MEETING WITH SOME GOOD RESULTS AS FAR AS FEEDBACK, BUT IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE INKED OR AGREED TO THIS MEETING. SO WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO WORK THROUGH THAT. I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE PUT ANOTHER CLOCK ON IT AT THE BASICALLY AT THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR FOR THE BELMONT FRESHWATER SUPPLY DISTRICT, THE END OF JANUARY. WE NEED TO BACK UP FROM THAT TO NOVEMBER 1ST, AND THAT GIVES US A MONTH AND A HALF TO FIGURE OUT THIS CONTRACT

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AND GET THIS INKED IN SIGNED. WELL, IF WE'RE GOING TO KICK THE CAN I WANT THIS BILL LAST TIME THAT WE KICKED THE CAN, BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS THIS WAY TOO LONG. NEGOTIATIONS HAVEN'T REALLY ADVANCED UNTIL JUST VERY RECENTLY. IT SEEMS LIKE IT KEEPS COMING AND GOING AND COMING AND GOING, AND OBVIOUSLY THEY NEED POLICE SERVICES. I MEAN, I WOULD BE A BIG FAN OF JUST OPTION FOR JUST GET IT DONE. BUT OBVIOUSLY , THAT DOESN'T SOUND HOW YOU NEGOTIATIONS GOING. IT LOOKS LIKE THERE MIGHT BE ANOTHER ROUTE. I HEAR THAT, AND AT THE LAST MEETING I WAS LEANING THAT WAY A WEEK LATER AFTER HEARING FEEDBACK AND EVERYTHING I GAVE THEM NOTICE THAT I WOULD BE COMING HERE TO SUGGEST THAT WE WOULD JUST PART WAYS THAT IT WAS VERY CLEAR WE NEEDED TO PART WAYS AND THAT I WOULD BE RECOMMENDING TO YOU ALL THAT WE WOULD CLOSE THE PIT AND EXIT A LOT OF OUR RELATIONSHIPS WITH THEM AND START MOVING TOWARDS EFFECTIVELY A DIVORCE. AND THAT KICK STARTED THE CONVERSATION PRETTY QUICKLY BACK TOWARDS WELL, THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WANT. I WAS LIKE, ALRIGHT, THEN WE GOT TO FIGURE THIS OUT IN A HURRY. SO WE GOT WITHIN A COUPLE OF DAYS TIME TO THIS FRAMEWORK. NOT AN AGREEMENT, BUT A FRAMEWORK AND RECOMMENDED FRAMEWORK AND ALSO A FEW OF THE LOGISTICAL HURDLES TO LOOK AT. AND WE THINK THE OUTCOMES ARE WORTH CONTINUING TO TRY TO GET THIS DONE. UM, AT THIS POINT WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT A RUNOFF ANYWAY. NOT NOT THROWING THE META POLICE SERVICES AT CHRISTMAS TIME. BUT RATHER GIVING THEM A CHANCE TO GO OUT AND TRY TO FIND ANOTHER SERVICE DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THOSE ARE BEING VERY PRODUCTIVE, BUT THEY DO HAVE SOME CONVERSATIONS AT THIS POINT, AND SO THEY CAN CONTINUE TO DO THAT. BUT I TOLD HIM I SAID LOOK, THE COUNCIL HAS BEEN VERY CLEAR. WE'VE WORKED IN GOOD FAITH TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE NUMBERS SHOULD BE. OUR FINANCE TEAM SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THIS. WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THIS. FIGURE OUT WHAT A NUMBER THAT IS APPROPRIATE TO COVER THE COST. AND THAT'S ALL IT IS, IS JUST TO COVER THE COST OF THOSE FOUR OFFICERS, PLUS OVERHEAD FOR THE WHOLE DEPARTMENT. AND A PROPORTIONAL RATE AND WE WOULD NOT MOVE OFF WITH THAT TOTAL AMOUNT. BUT. I AGREE THAT YES, WE CAN COLLECT THE TOTAL AMOUNT OVER A PERIOD.

AND SINCE WE DO COVER THOSE OTHER TWO SERVICES WITHIN THE MONEY THAT WE ALREADY SPEND ON THE NORTH LAKESIDE. WITHIN OUR BUDGET, IT WOULD SEEM TO MAKE SENSE AND GIVE THEM SOMETHING TO SHOW TO THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD IS A WIND THAT THEY GOT THIS DONE. AND IT ALSO GETS A RELATIONSHIP OUT OF BELMONT OVER TWO THE O A . THAT HAS THE BENEFIT US SINCE WE CAN'T SEEM TO COME TO TERMS WITH THE BOARD AS A WHOLE. I HAVE TWO FINAL POINTS AND I'M GOING TO SHUT UP TO CONCERNS IF WE DISSOLVE THE PIT. AND LANDSCAPING GOES TO HELL WITHIN HARVEST AND THINGS GET OVERGROWN AND WHATEVER OFFENSE JUST JUST WONDERING. WHAT RECOURSE DO WE HAVE IN THE PIT? IT'S OBVIOUSLY BUDGETED AND SET ASIDE FOR LANDSCAPING, RIGHT? ONE SHORT ONE YEAR THEY DIDN'T COLLECT ALL THEIR DUES. LANDSCAPING SUFFERS. NOW WE'VE GOT A TRASHY ROAD ON GUN NORTHLAKE. SO THAT'S CONCERNED NUMBER ONE. UM MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT. PROTEIN WHILE YOU'RE RECALLING NUMBER TWO, WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO UM. REDUCE THE FUNDING TO ZERO THE PIN. IT TAKES MORE STEPS TO GET RID OF THE PYD SO THE PIT WILL STILL EXIST. IT'LL JUST BE A HOLLOW PIT, RIGHT. AND SO, UM AND WITH THE PROPER PUBLIC HEARING AND NOTICES IF THAT ACTUALLY. AND WE DON'T CLOSE THE PYD THAT MIGHT COULD STILL BE AVAILABLE TO RESURRECT THE PYD, BUT IT WOULD TAKE AN AMENDED AND HERE, UM, A NEW S A P AND ASSESSMENT. POLICY, BUT, UH, OPTION ONE IS 20 RATE. THE PYD NOT DISSOLVE THE PIT YET. RIGHT, BUT THAT WAS MY CONCERN. LANDSCAPING MIGHT SUFFER WITH THAT. AND JUST TO ADDRESS THAT POINT, IN PARTICULAR WHAT WE OFTEN DO ON THESE H O S IS WE REQUIRE THEM TO HAVE PROVISIONS IN THEIR BYLAWS THAT ALLOWS THE TOWN TO STEP IN IF THEY DON'T KEEP UP WITH THEIR WORK. SO AND WE CAN FOLLOW LIEN ON THE PROPERTY TO GET PAID FOR IT. SO WE TYPICALLY REQUIRE THAT AND I THINK THAT WE COULD WORK THAT OUT AND COMBINE IT WITH OUR AGREEMENT FOR PAYING FOR POLICE SERVICES THAT WE HAVE THOSE PROVISIONS IN THERE THAT THE TOWN CAN STEP IN. IF WE WANT TO STEP IN, YOU DON'T HAVE TO, BUT IT WOULD AT LEAST GIVE YOU THE RIGHT TO I THINK THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN THERE BECAUSE WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THE T. J AND PUBLIC SPACES LIKE THAT. RIGHT NOW. MY SECOND POINT IS, WE SPENT MONTHS AND MONTHS NEGOTIATING THIS AND JOHN'S TIME WEREN'T RUNNING THROUGH NUMBERS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. EVERY MONTH. WE KEEP STRETCHING US OUT. WE'RE ADDING MORE INTERNAL STAFF COSTS TO THIS TO DO THAT. WE'RE NOT BEING REVERSED FOR AT ALL. SO NOT ADDED, BUT WE'RE STRETCHING THE YES, HE'S SALARY WILL HE COULD BE DOING. I COULD BE TOO YEAH. ALRIGHT SO I WILL. I WILL ADD THIS THOUGHT. I BELIEVE IN SELF

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DETERMINATION FOR EVERY ENTITY AND A GROUP OF PEOPLE. THEY'RE A DIFFERENT ENTITY. THEY'RE NOT PART OF THE TOWN. IT'S NOT OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO WORRY ABOUT THERE. WHAT THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES ARE. WE HAVE LEVERS. YES TO MAKE SURE THAT IT STAYS UP, BUT IT'S NOT OUR JOB TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S THEIR JOB TO DECIDE HOW MUCH THEY'RE GOING TO SPEND ON THOSE TYPE OF THINGS IF THEY CHOOSE NOT TO RAISE THE PRODUCE AS MUCH AS THEY NEED TO COVER THIS, THEN THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT SOME OF THEIR SPECIAL AREAS AND FLOWERS AND LANDSCAPING BACK TO GRASS. AND REDUCE THE YOU KNOW THE WATERING THAT THEY DO AND FIND WAYS TO CUT THEIR BUDGET, WHICH IS NOT NECESSARILY A BAD THING. IT'S UP TO THEM, THOUGH. AND THAT'S FINE BY ME. OKAY, FOLKS, YOU'VE. I'VE LAID IT ALL OUT THERE. SO I NEED YOU TO AS A GROUP. GIVE DIRECTION ON THE PIT AS TO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO AND GIVE DIRECTION TO ME AND TO MR CORN AS TO WHAT THAT PROPOSED ARRANGEMENT. CAN WE GO NEGOTIATE THAT WITH THE H O A. THOSE ARE THE TWO THINGS I NEED FROM YOU TONIGHT. SO I HAD TO ME IS, UM THE POLICE SERVICES CONTRACT, SO I ASSUMED THERE'D BE NO ACTION THAT NEGOTIATIONS ARE CONTINUING. UM AND WILL WHEN WE DO COME BACK WITH A SOLUTION WILL CANCEL THE. THE POLICE SERVICE CONTRACT WITH FRESH WATER SUPPLY DISTRICT AND START ONE WITH THE H O A WITH THE PROVISION THAT YOU'VE LAID OUT SO BEFORE WE GO TO CALLING ITEMS I NEED THEM TO DISCUSS AND DECIDE WHAT THEY WANT TO DO, AND THEN WE'LL ASK YOU WHICH OPTION TO PULL THE TRIGGER ON THAT'S ONE QUESTION OF STAFF. IF OPTION ONE IS CLOSING TONIGHT, AND WE DISSOLVE DISSOLVED THAT OR ZERO IT OUT. AND ALWAYS NEGOTIATIONS FALL THROUGH AND THEY STILL WANT POLICE SERVICES. DO WE HAVE AN EXIT RAMP TO GET BACK TO OPTION THREE OR FOUR? YEAH, WE CAN. WE CAN AMEND THE BUDGET. UH AND CORRECT. UM. MISTAKES AND, YEAH , THE STATUTE ALLOWS US TO DO THAT SO LONG AS WE DON'T DISSOLVE THE PIT. UM AND YOU KNOW WE CAN HAVE A MIDYEAR AMENDMENT AND CHARGE IT BACK UP . OKAY, WELL, THAT'S STILL AGREE WITH US. THEY CAN STILL COME SO BELMONT CAN STILL CONTRACT WITH US TAX LEVY IT UNTIL NEXT YEAR, THEN YEAH, THERE WILL BE A YEAR DELAY. OKAY YEAH. SORRY IT'S A ONE TIME ASSESSMENT AGAIN. IT'S UP TO BELMONT. IF THEY IF THIS DOESN'T WORK, THEN IT'S BACK TO THEM TO MAKE A DECISION IN THE BEST INTEREST THEIR COMMUNITY TO CONTINUE POLICE SERVICES. IF THEY WANT, FIX THEIR SPEED LIMITS ON THE ROAD, I HELP THEM OUT. ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO WEIGH IN ON THIS? I AGREE WITH THE SPEED LIMIT SIGNS. YEAH. AND. IF WE DID NUMBER FOUR WE COULD STILL GO BACK AND LOWER THAT NUMBER RIGHT, JOHN? BUT WE CAN'T RAISE. ZERO UNTIL NEXT YEAR NEXT YEAR, BUT WE COULD LOWER ANOTHER NUMBER. TO ROGER'S POINT, COULDN'T WE COLLECT THAT AND REBATE THAT BACK WITH AN AGREEMENT? NO ONE HAS FOUND AN EFFECTIVE WAY TO GO OUT TO MAIL EVERY RESIDENT A REBATE ON PROPERTY TAXES YET, UM MANY CITIES HAVE TRIED, BUT OUR TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTOR SERVICES ONLY BUILDS PEOPLE AND COLLECTS IT. THEY DO NOT REBATE. NOT SURPRISED. ACH KILLER TRIED, SO YEAH. BINGO. ALL RIGHT. ALRIGHT, FOLKS, YOU GOTTA GIVE ME SOME DIRECTION HERE I GAVE YOU I'M OBVIOUSLY FOR ZEROING THE PIT AND GOING TO THE HR AND STRIKING THE CONTRACT AT THE PROPOSED RATES THAT I PROPOSED TO YOU WITH THE CONSIDERATIONS THERE'S LIKE 20 OF THEM. THAT WOULD GO INTO MOU THAT I STARTED DRAFTING . UM THAT TALKED TO SOME OF THE CHALLENGES OF NON PAYMENT AND WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN AND ALL THE THINGS THAT I COULD THINK OF. I CAN'T BRING THEM ALL UP HERE TONIGHT. WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS. ENOUGH WE JUST GOT TO GET TO THE DIRECTION BECAUSE WE HAVE TO MAKE AN ACTION ON THE PIT TONIGHT. WE CAN CONTINUE TO NEGOTIATE AND POLICE SERVICES. I THINK WE OUGHT TO GO WITH NO OPTION NUMBER FOUR. AND THEN CONTINUE TO NEGOTIATE AND THEN AFTER WE'VE CONTINUED AND NEGOTIATE, THEN THEY CAN DECIDE TO GET TAKE THE BETTER DEAL. BUT IF WE GO AHEAD AND ZERO IT OUT THEN WE ZEROED OUT WITH NO AGREEMENT. NOT ROGER. YOUR POINT OF NUMBER FOUR IS INTERESTING BECAUSE IT GUARANTEES AND POLICE SERVICES THAT GUARANTEES IT'S FUNDED AND AT SOME POINT WE CAN MAKE A DEAL. AND GET ALL THAT WORK DONE. WE HAVE A YEAR TO WORK IT FOR. SO I'LL ADD THIS ONE MORE. IF YOU WANT TO GO DOWN THAT PATH, I'M GOING TO TAKE YOU

[01:40:07]

IN THE BACK AND REGION ON SOMETHING ELSE. AND MEXICAN, YOU PULL UP THE DISTRICT MAP. AND JUST TO HIGHLIGHT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE H O A. THE DISTRICT AND THE PID. THERE'S GAPS IN IT . AND THIS IS WHERE ALL THE INEQUITIES COME IN. SO THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS ASKING US BASICALLY UNOFFICIALLY BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE AN ENTITY TO ASK US. BUT THE THOSE CONTROLLED H O A AND SOME OF THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD ON BELMONT AND NEIGHBORHOOD PEOPLE HAVE EXPRESSED A WISH TO CLOSE THE PIT. AND SO THE WHAT? I WHAT I OFFERED TO KENDALL WAS. THIS IS A WAY FOR US TO SHOW SOME COOPERATION. EVEN IF WE CAN'T GET THE POLICE SERVICES TO DEMONSTRATE THAT WE'RE GONNA WE HAVE VALUE TO EACH OTHER AND A PROFESSIONAL RELATIONSHIP, AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO SO FAR AS THE DIVORCE AT THIS POINT. UM AND TRY TO SALVAGE A RELATIONSHIP EVEN IF WE CAN'T GET THE POLICE SERVICES. ALL THIS GROUP AVOIDED IF BELMONT FRESHWATER SUPPLY DISTRICT PRECIPITOUSLY DROPPED THEIR TAX RATE EVERY SINGLE YEAR. JUST MAKE THEMSELVES LOOK GOOD. SO THAT IS THE ROOT CAUSE OF THIS, AND NOW THEY'RE ASKING US TO DROP THEIR ATTACKS ANOTHER 21 CENTS BY DROPPING THE PIT. YEAH I'M WITH YOU ON THAT ONE. I'M STRUGGLING WITH ADAM, STRUGGLING WITH WHAT OUR NORTH LAKE RESIDENTS PAY FOR POLICE SERVICES COMPARED TO WHAT HARVEST IS WILLING TO GIVE US BUT I ALSO SEE THE VALUE AND WHAT YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT MAYOR AS FAR AS HAVING THOSE OFFICERS IN HARVEST. WE HAVE SCHOOLS THERE. WE HAVE NORTHLAKE RESIDENTS THAT ARE IN AND OUT OF THERE ALL DAY LONG AND CHILDREN THERE. SO THIS ONE. THIS IS THIS IS A TOUGH ONE FOR ME, BECAUSE I JUST PERSONALLY, I JUST DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY VALUE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AS A WHOLE FOR THEIR COMMUNITY AS WELL. THEY MADE SURE TO TELL ME THAT THEY UNDERSTOOD THAT THE INITIAL TERMINATION WAS, UM. I DON'T KNOW THE WORDS THAT WERE USED. THAT WAS A BIT OF A SLAP IN THE FACE. AND THEY WANTED IN RESCINDING IT. THEY WANTED TO ALSO ADD A POINT THAT THEY VALUE THE POLICE SERVICES VERY MUCH.

MAYBE NOT AS MUCH AS WE VALUE THEM FROM A COST STANDPOINT. BUT I UNDERSTOOD THAT THEY WANTED TO MAKE A VERY DISTINCT POINT THAT THEY VALUE THEM AS PROFESSIONALS FOR THE SERVICE THEY PROVIDE.

VERY ENGAGED WITH THE COMMUNITY , AND THEY THINK THAT THEY DO AN EXCELLENT JOB, SO I'LL ADD THAT BUT I'VE ALSO EXPRESSED THE POINT THAT IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE YOUR VALUE AND QUITE WHAT WE DO.

SO THAT POINT'S BEEN MADE. I THINK I THINK EVERYBODY HARVEST NORTHLAKE. EVERYBODY AGREES THE POLICE ARE NEEDED THERE. IN TERMS OF COMMUNITY PROTECTION, SO I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IS WILLING TO SAY TERMINATE POLICE SERVICES. I KNOW I'M NOT IT'S A IT'S A FAIR POINT. WE NEED TO GET THERE AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU NEED TO READ THIS INTO TO TALK ABOUT OPTION FOR, BUT WE NEED TO FIND OUT WHERE COUNCIL WANTS TO GO WITH THEM. ANYBODY ELSE? WHAT OPTION DO YOU WANT TO PURSUE? AS FAR AS THE PIT IS CONCERNED, YOU JUST WEIGH IN REAL QUICK AT A SPOT POLL. IT'S UP THERE NOW. CAN YOU MAGNIFY? THE REASON I LIKE FOR IS IT MAKES THEM HELPS MAKE THEM DECIDE TO DO SOMETHING BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR A LONG TIME, AND WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN VERY CLOSE TO A REAL DEAL. AND WHAT I'M SAYING IS, I THINK I JUST GOT ONE. SO IT WAS LAST MINUTE, BUT WE GOT THERE BECAUSE THERE WAS A CLIFF'S EDGE. AND SO THAT HELPED UM LIKE I SAID, I NEED A SPOT POLL HERE BECAUSE IF WE'RE GONNA LEAN THIS DIRECTION, I'M GONNA HAVE TO TAKE YOU IN THE BACK. SO IF HOW MANY OF YOU ARE LOOKING AT OPTIONS FOR I'D LIKE TO HEAR WHAT YOU SAY ABOUT OPTIONS TO HOW MANY ELSE I'M CONSIDERING IT. ALL RIGHT. WE NEED TO GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

ALRIGHT. UNDER 551.071 CONSULTATION WITH YOUR ATTORNEY . WE NEED TO RETIRE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION OF 7 14 PM TO DISCUSS THE E F G H. GOOD. 7 28 PM WE'VE RETURNED RETURNED FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION AND WE ARE READY TO START GOING THROUGH THESE ITEMS AND TAKING SOME ACTION WITH REGARD TO A QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED FROM THE FLOOR WHILE WE WERE COMING BACK IN.

I'M LOOKING AT THE TAX BILL FOR ONE OF THE ENTITIES HERE. IN THE NORTH I COMMONS. THERE IS NO PIT ASSESSMENT. AND THE NORTH LIKE COMMONS ON THE TAX BILLS, JOHN. I NEED TO CLARIFY THIS APPEARED DOES NOT COVER THE NORTH LAKE COMMONS CORRECT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT NOW, LET'S GO FORWARD. SO PURSUANT TO WHAT WE DISCUSSED IN THE BACK. UM WE'RE GOING TO. I BELIEVE THE BOARD IS GOING TO

[01:45:04]

GIVE ME AUTHORITY TO CONTINUE NEGOTIATING AND POLICE SERVICES AT THIS TIME. WHAT I WANT TO DO IS GET THE OUTLINE THEIR REACTION TO THE INITIAL PROPOSAL THAT I PUT FORWARD. AND ANY SUGGESTED CHANGES SO THAT I HAVE A FRAMEWORK TO WORK WITH AND CONTINUING NEGOTIATIONS. UM THERE'S NEGOTIATIONS WILL BE WITH THE H O. A NOT WITH THE BELMONT FRESHWATER SUPPLY DISTRICT FOR THE CONTINUATION OF POLICE SERVICES. SO THE FIRST STATEMENT, OF FACT IS THAT WE ARE GOING TO REPURPOSE OUR CONVERSATIONS FROM BELMONT FRESHWATER SUPPLY DISTRICT. TO THE H O. A WHAT CONSIDERATIONS, NUMBERS THOUGHTS. DO YOU HAVE COUNSEL FOR ME? WHO WANTS TO GO FIRST? AND I WILL START ONCE EVERYONE MOTION OR DO YOU WANT DIRECTION? I JUST WANT YOU TO GIVE ME SOME THOUGHTS. I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE NEGOTIATIONS WITH WITH THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, STARTING AT $22 PER HOUSEHOLD. UM BUT. WITH THE EXCEPTION THAT IF WE DON'T DEAL IN 45 DAYS WE WILL START TERMINATION. MEANING THE OCTOBER 26TH COUNCIL MEETING. IF WE DON'T HAVE ACTION TO TAKE AT THAT TIME, YES. ALRIGHT SO OCTOBER 26TH. WE WILL EITHER HAVE AN AGREEMENT. THE H O A TO DEAL OR WE WILL START THE RUNOFF TERMINATION OF SERVICES AT THAT TIME. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. WHY 45 DAYS? WHY NOT 30? THE 26TH IS JUST THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING IN OCTOBER. GIVES US THREE COUNCIL MEETINGS TO GET IT DONE. THERE'S GONNA BE LAWYERS. THERE'S GOING TO BE TIME PAPER PEOPLE PUSHING GIVE A FAIR AMOUNT OF TIME COMING IN FAITH DISCUSSING THIS FOR THREE MORE MEETINGS, THOUGH IT'S I'D SAY BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL. OKAY? YOU HAVE 30 45 DAYS ON THE TABLE. 30 OR 45 DAYS . JUST WEIGH IN REAL QUICK, PLEASE 45 45. OKAY, IT'S 45.

WHAT'S NEXT? ANYTHING ELSE, BRIAN? OKAY ANYTHING ELSE THAT'S GOING TO AGREE WITH. MAYOR PRO TEM, I THINK THAT CAN BE INTEGRATED WITH THAT IS ON THE TERMINATION, OR WE TERMINATE IN POLICE SERVICES IMMEDIATELY TO START THE IT'S A 90 DAY RUNOFF. I AGREE WITH THAT AS WELL. OKAY SO THERE WAS A FEW MORE DETAILS THAT I SHARED. IT WAS 22 TO 25/4 YEARS ENDING WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. H Y HAS TO MAKE WHOLE FOR ANYBODY THAT DOESN'T PAY INCLUDES CROSSING GUARDS AND CAMERAS. ARE ALL THOSE CONSIDERATIONS AGREEABLE TO YOU TO CONTINUE TO NEGOTIATE? YES. OKAY ANY OTHER FOR FURTHER INSTRUCTIONS IN THE NEGOTIATION? OKAY? WE TAKE NO ACTION ON ITEM

[5.E. VOTE]

[5.F. Consider an Ordinance of the Town Council of the Town of Northlake, Texas, levying assessments for the cost of services provided in Northlake Public Improvement District No. 1 (Harvest) during the Fiscal Year 2023- 2024; seQng the charges and liens against property in the District and against the owners thereof; providing for the collecon of such assessments; reserving unto the Town Council the right to allow credits reducing the amount of the respecve assessment to the extent ofany creditgranted i. Public hearing- Continued from August 24, 2023 ii. Consider Approval]

E MOVE TO ITEM F WITH REGARD TO THE PIT. UH ASHLEY, WALK US THROUGH IT. WE NEED TO DO HERE, PLEASE. MR CORN TIMING. YEAH. AND WE'VE DECIDED THAT WE STILL NEED MG, JUST AS CLEAN UP AS A RESTATED BUDGET, BUT YEAH, IF YOU DO OPTION ONE HE DIED OPT A ZERO TAX RATE. JONAH ZERO.

SERVICES HAS BEEN PLAYING WITH NO SERVICES. BASICALLY. THAT'S STUDYING THE SERVICE ASSESSMENT PLAN WITH ZEROING OUT THE EXPENSES AND SO YOU'RE CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING. IN WHICH WAS CONTINUING. LAST TIME YOU'RE SETTING A RATE OF ZERO SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT G. ALRIGHT, LET'S STAND BY THEN. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? SORRY. YES SORRY . GO AHEAD. IF YOU'RE SITTING RATES OF ZERO, AND YOU'RE AMENDING THE SERVICE ASSESSMENT PLANS, ZEROING OUT ALL OF THE EXPENSES LISTED WITHIN THEIR OKAY, WE'LL GET THEIR ITEM F WHAT ARE WE DOING? YOU NEED TO HOLD OPEN REOPEN. THE PUBLIC HEARINGS WAS CARRIED OVER AND THEN ADOPTED ZERO RIGHT? OKAY? ALL RIGHT. AT 7. 33 PM WILL REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING CONTINUED FROM AUGUST. 24TH IS ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK ON THE TOPIC OF THE PIT TONIGHT? YES. HELLO MY NAME IS TOM WRITES. I LIVE AT 17 36 LARK LANE, WHICH IS RIGHT ACROSS AND INSIDE OF THE PIT. A I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS , ONE REGARDING THE RESOLUTION WHO CAME UP WITH THE RESOLUTION. WORKED FOR THE FIRST ESTABLISHED PIT AND THE STATE OF TEXAS, WHICH IS DOWNTOWN FORT WORTH. AND JUST HAD SOME CONCERNS REGARDING FROM THE RATE THAT'S THAT'S LISTED. AND EVEN AN OPTION FOR IT TO INCREASE THAT RATE. FOR THE POLICE SERVICES. AND I COULD BE WRONG. WHERE THIS PID SITS. IS A VERY SMALL PORTION OF HARVEST. SO THAT WOULD REQUIRE US TO PAY THAT. THAT NUMBER. IS THAT CORRECT?

[01:50:07]

NO. THE BELMONT FRESHWATER SUPPLY DISTRICT ONE END TO EVEN OUT THINGS, AND THEN THE CONTRIBUTES TO THAT THEY ALL WORK TOGETHER TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO EQUITABLY ASSIGNED THE COSTS.

UM BUT THE PIT ONLY APPLIES TO THE. JOHN MARY, WEST SIDE OF HARVEST WAY, CORRECT DJ, AND IT COVERS ALMOST ALL OF THE FRESHWATER SUPPLY DISTRICT. BUT MAYBE 10TH OR MAYBE EVEN A SMALLER FRACTION. SO THERE IS JUST A SMALL AREA THAT'S OUTSIDE THE PERIOD. THAT'S IN THE FRESH HORSE PLAN DISTRICT. BUT FOR THE MOST BROAD SENSE OF PURPOSE IS CO TERMINUS. SO. CAN YOU BACK UP AND STATE FOR ME, AND I'M NOT USING YOUR TIME AT THE MOMENT. UM YOU SUGGEST YOU SAID THE COST WOULDN'T WOULD BE PAID BY ONLY SOME OF YOU. WHAT? WHAT? WHAT? WHAT CONCERN DO YOU HAVE IF YOU COULD RESTATE THAT. SO IT WOULDN'T BE PAID BY THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY. THE PIT IS ALREADY IN PLACE, AND IT'S ALREADY BEING PAID FOR THE LAST SEVEN YEARS BY 90% OF THOSE IN THE NORTH LAKE E T. J. THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S DONE WITH THE WITH THE BELL ANNIVERSARY FRESHWATER SUPPLY DISTRICT, THE O A. TO COLLECT ADDITIONAL FEES THROUGH THE H O A FOR THE PORTION THAT'S NOT IN THE PIT, AND THAT'S HOW THEY BALANCE IT OUT SO THAT EVERYBODY PAYS. CLOSER TO WHAT THEY SHOULD OKAY? AND IT'S BEEN OUR PRACTICE. TO ADOPT THE 21 CENTS FOR THE LAST SEVEN YEARS. AND NOW THERE'S RECOGNITION THAT THAT MAY NOT BE EQUITABLE, SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE LOOKING AT OPTIONS TO CHANGE IT. BUT I'LL START TO RESTART YOUR TIME. PICK UP YOUR TIME. AND THEN WHO WHO CREATED THE RESOLUTION BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENED BUT I KNOW IS THAT MOST OF THE TIME RESIDENTIAL AREAS ARE OR AVOIDED FROM PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS. THIS IS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, SO THIS WAS SET. THE IT WAS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. THE PROPERTY OWNERS, WHICH WAS WHO WOULD HAVE TELL ME YOU'VE BEEN REALTY CAPITAL PETITION THE TOWN TO CREATE THE PIT. IT'S A TOWN ENTITY. IT'S A TOWN CREATION, BUT IT WAS UPON PETITION BY THE PROPERTY OWNERS. AND THEN MY.

LAST QUESTION WOULD BE WHO WHO'S THE PIT DIRECTOR WHO'S MANAGING THE PIT IN THE MONEY? SO THE PIT IS MAINLY A FINANCIAL TOOL. IT PROVIDES FUNDS. TO THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANY. I THINK IT'S FIRST SERVICES. THE PUBLIC AREAS ARE USED. THE PIT FUNDS YOUR H O. THE H O A DUES GO FOR THE PRIVATE AREAS. THERE'S PROBABLY SOME UM PUSH AND PULL BETWEEN THOSE TWO AMOUNTS. BUT THE H O A DUES AND THE PYD ASSESSMENTS TO GO TO THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY THAT'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THE UPKEEP AND MAINTENANCE OF THE PUBLIC AND PRIVATE AREAS. IT'S COLLECTED AND DROPPED INTO THE H O A. THE RUNS IT OKAY? I THINK THAT'S ALL RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU. I DON'T WISH TO SPEAK TONIGHT ON THE PIT. OKAY? 7. 37 PM, WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. COUNSELORS. WHAT ACTION DO YOU WANT TO TAKE ON THIS? I GOT FOUR OPTIONS IN FRONT OF YOU. ZERO WIT, 21. CENTS 21 CENTS AND SUBTRACT 7 64 POLICE SERVICES, OR, UM, INCREASE IT TO 20. EIGHT CENTS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

WHAT DIRECTION YOU WANNA GO? I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO ZERO OUT THE PID. PURSUANT TO OUR ONGOING NEGOTIATIONS AND PREVIOUS STEP. I'LL SECOND THAT. THE PROPOSAL IS 20 THE PIT OUT AND HAVE THE H O A TAKE UP THE COLLECTIONS. AND DO SO MORE EQUITABLY ACROSS ALL OF THE HOMEOWNERS. AND, UH, THE WEST SIDE. WELL, ACTUALLY H O A COVERS. EVERYBODY JUST HAVE A SINGLE HOPEFULLY A SINGLE FEE FOR EVERYBODY AND THEN INCREMENTAL FOR SOME LARGER LOTS BASED ON MAINTENANCE AND THOSE THAT GET MAINTENANCE VERSUS THOSE ADULTS. SO THAT'S THE IDEA. BUT OUR IN PERSON PURSUANT TO THE CONVERSATIONS I'VE HAD AND WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT WITH COUNCIL. WE'D LIKE TO BE OUT OF THIS BUSINESS. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO ACQUIESCE AS A DEMONSTRATION OF GOOD FAITH IN THESE NEGOTIATIONS COOPERATIVE RELATIONSHIP. BECAUSE IT SPEND TESTING HAS BEEN VERY DIFFICULT , AND WE'VE BEEN AT THE CLIFF'S EDGE SEVERAL TIMES THROUGH THIS NEGOTIATION, AND SO PRESIDENT KENDALL JOHNSON AND I 90 MINUTE PHONE CALL HAMMERED OUT THAT THIS WOULD BE ONE WAY FOR US ALL THE STATES AND FACE AND STEP BACK FROM THE TABLE AND RESET FOR THE POLICE SERVICES RENEGOTIATION. TRY TO GET THERE OVER THE NEXT SIX WEEKS AND THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. AND

[01:55:07]

THIS IS AGREED TO BY, UH ACKNOWLEDGED BY HILLWOOD THAT THEY CAN DO THIS AND THAT THE BELMONT FRESHWATER SPIDER CHECKED. A COUPLE OF THOSE MEMBERS BELIEVE THAT THIS IS NOW AN APPROPRIATE THING TO DO AND BASED ON RESIDENT FEEDBACK THROUGH SOME DIFFERENT CHANNELS BELIEVE THAT THIS IS THE BEST WAY TO DO IT. IT GIVES YOU MORE AUTONOMY OVER YOUR FUTURE, AND ABOUT SIX MONTHS WHEN YOU'RE HTWE BOARDS TAKEN OVER BY THE RESIDENTS. SO IN SOME WAYS THIS FOLLOWS MY PHILOSOPHY OF GIVING YOURSELF DETERMINATION BACK. RATHER THAN HAVE THE DEVELOPER.

TELL US WHAT TAX YOU WHICH I'VE NEVER LIKED THIS APPROACH ANYWAY. BUT IT DOES MEAN THAT WE ARE EXPOSING OURSELVES A LITTLE BIT TO NOT BEING ABLE TO GET THE POLICE SERVICES AND WE'RE GIVING AWAY ONE OF THEIR TOOLS WE COULD HAVE USED SO THIS IS A SHOW OF GOOD FAITH FROM THE TOWN OF NORTH LAKE. BUT IT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF HARVEST, WHICH IS IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF ALL OF US.

SO ANYONE ELSE WANT TO WEIGH IN? MOTION IN THE SECONDS ON THE TABLE CONVERSATIONS OPEN. OKAY,

[5.F. VOTE]

LET'S VOTE. AND THERE GOES $2.3 MILLION IN TAXES. CONGRATULATIONS. ALL RIGHT.

[5.G. Consider an Ordinance of the Town Council of the Town of Northlake, Texas, amending and restang Ordinance 23-0824E adopng the Proposed Budget for FiscalYear 2023-2024 beginning on October 1, 2023, and ending on September 30, 2024, for the Town of Northlake, Northlake Public Improvement District No. 1 (Harvest), Northlake Public Improvement District No. 2 (The Highlands),and Tax Increment Financing Zone No. 1 (TIRZ-Canyon Falls)]

OKAY, NOW WE GOT TO CLEAN UP SOME STUFF. SO NOW WE NEED TO ADJUST OUR BUDGET TO CONFIRM THAT THERE IS ZERO COLLECTIONS FROM THE PIT THAT WOULD THEN BE HANDED OFF TO THE H O A AND ALSO TO CLEAN IT UP AND STATE THAT THERE WILL NOT BE ANY SERVICE PLAN FOR POLICE SERVICES COMING OUT OF THE PIT. IS THAT CORRECT? DID I GET THAT RIGHT? YES SIR. WE'RE RESTATING OUR ENTIRE BUDGET WITH ZERO BUDGET FOR THE PIN. WE'RE DOING THIS BY VOICE. JUST WITH THAT INSTRUCTION. YEAH THAT'S FINE. YES THAT'S FINE. OKAY YOU HAVE TO VERBALIZE THAT YOU WANT TO ZERO OUT THE PIT OUT OF THIS BECAUSE THIS IS WITH THE 21.5 CENTS. SO ALRIGHT, ASHLEY, GIVE ME LANGUAGE. JUST MOTION TO AMEND THE ORDINANCE THAT WAS PASSED. THEY HAVE THE ORANGES NUMBER HERE, AMEND OR THIS NUMBER 23 08 24 E. ZERO OUT THE BUDGET FOR HARVEST PID NUMBER ONE. MOTION TO MODIFY ORDINANCE 23 DASH EARLY 8 TO 4 E ADAPTING THE PROPOSED BUDGET FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 20 OUT THE PID. AND WHAT ELSE? HEART PIT NUMBER ONE NUMBER ONE FOR HARVEST. GET THAT OKAY. MOTIONS MADE THIS VERY SECOND. SECOND. SECOND FROM THE MAYOR PRO TEM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION. ALRIGHT, LET'S VOTE.

[5.G. VOTE]

YOU WANT VOICE VOTES. DO I NEED TO DO A ROLL CALL VOTE. VOICES VOICES FINE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE, ALRIGHT. ANY OPPOSED. IT'S A GOOD THANK YOU. AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING ON A

[5.H. Consider approval on setting a date for a public hearing for the Fiscal Year 2023-2024 service and assessment plans of Northlake Public Improvement District No. 1 (Harvest) and set the adoption of the plans during the Regular Town Council Meeting on September 28, 2023]

CHURCH. THANK GOODNESS. ALRIGHT CONSIDER RESOLUTION TOWN IN NORTH LAKE RELEASING ASPIRE

[5.I. Consider a Resoluon of the Town of Northlake, Texas, releasing Aspire Development LLC tract, 3.0538 acres of land, from the Extraterritorial Jurisdicon of the Town]

DEVELOPMENT TRACK THREE ACRES OF LAND FROM AT J OF THE TOWN. THE PROPERTY OWNER AT THE CORNER ACROSS THE STREET FROM ARGYLE WEST, HAS REQUESTED ON SEPTEMBER 1ST, WHICH IS THE FIRST DAY POSSIBLE TO RELEASE FROM EXTRA TERRITORIAL JURISDICTION OF THE TOWN. WE WERE NOT ABLE TO COME TO AGREEMENT ON A VARIETY OF THINGS RELATED TO UTILITIES AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF HIS PROPERTY OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, AND SO HE IS EXCELLENT IN THE TOWN AND DO WHAT HE WANTS.

MISSING ANYTHING. ALRIGHT YOUR ACTIONS TONIGHT YOU HAVE TWO OPTIONS. YOU CAN DO NOTHING. AND THEN HE AUTOMATICALLY GOES OUT AND A MONTH OR SO. AND THE OTHER IS TO APPROVE THE EXIT, AND IT GOES TO EFFECT TODAY. AND BECAUSE WE HADN'T UM. PAST THEIR WORD. YOU HADN'T PASSED THE ORDINANCE FOR THE FEES. HE'S NOT GOING TO PAY THAT $1000 FEE BECAUSE HE BEAT US TO THE PUNCH ON THE FEET. ANY DISCUSSION. SUPPOSE WE DO NOTHING. HE'S STILL GOING TO BE ABLE TO ESCAPE AFTER 45 DAYS AFTER SEPTEMBER, 1ST, WHICH WAS WHEN THE LEGISLATION WENT INTO EFFECT. IN 30 DAYS, IT WILL GO INTO EFFECT AUTOMATICALLY IF WE TAKE NO ACTION. I'M TALKING ABOUT THE FEES, THOUGH. NO FEES CAN BE ASSESSED. THAT'S WATER UNDER THE BRIDGE. EXPO SPECS. ANYONE WANT TO TAKE ANY ACTION OR YOU WANT TO PASS ON ACTION. I DON'T REALLY WANT TO TAKE ANY ACTION.

[5.I. VOTE]

[02:00:03]

I AGREE. VERY GOOD. NO ACTION. BY GENERAL CONSENT. CONSIDER RESOLUTION THE TOWN OF NORTH

[5.J. Consider a Resoluon of the Town of Northlake, Texas, expressing intent to reimburse certain Town of Northlake expenditures from the proceeds of debt obligaons to be issued in the future]

EXPRESSING INTENT TO REIMBURSE CERTAIN TOWN IN NORTHLAKE EXPENDITURE FROM THE PROCEEDS OF DEBT OBLIGATIONS TO BE ISSUED IN THE FUTURE. THERE'S $1 MILLION IN EXPENSES, WHICH YOU CAN THEN TAG TOWARDS THE DEBT OBLIGATION IF THE BOND PASSES ON THE NOVEMBER BALLOT. ANYTHING ELSE? THAT'S IT 60 DAYS BEFORE AND UP TO A YEAR AFTER FOR THE FOR THOSE MILLION DOLLAR REIMBURSEMENTS, OKAY, ANY DISCUSSION? ANY ACTION. QUESTION TO PROVE MAY I PRETEND HAS MOTION TO APPROVE? IS THERE A SECOND HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR KICKER ANY FURTHER

[5.J. VOTE]

DISCUSSION? THERE BEING NONE. LET'S VOTE. SIX AND ONE ABSTENTION. ALL RIGHT. DID WE MISS ANYTHING? AND ALL OF THIS TONIGHT? DID WE GET THERE? I THINK YOU GOT IT. ALRIGHT 7 45

[6. EXECUTIVE SESSION]

PM. PERCENT SECTIONS. 551.071 0.072 0.074 AND RETURN RETIRE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. WE DON'T ANTICIPATE ANY ACTIONS COMING OUT TONIGHT. WE HOPE WE HOPE. DREW HOPES. YOU HAVE AN ACTION COMING OUT AND SECOND SESSION, OKAY. I HOPE TO GET IT'S 9 20 TESTING. ARE WE ON

[7. RECONVENE INTO OPEN SESSION]

THERE IT IS. ALL RIGHT. 9 25 PM WE'VE RETURNED FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION WITH ONE ACTION. TAKE THIS EVENING. UM PURSUANT TO OUR CONVERSATION IN THE BACK. WE WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE A AMENDMENT TO THE TOWN MANAGERS EMPLOYMENT CONTRACT. PURSUANT TO WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE BACK. IS THERE A MOTION TO CONSIDER THAT? HOW MANY MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CONSIDER IT.

ALRIGHT. HIT YOUR BUTTON. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILOR SESSIONS HAVE SECONDED IT. ANY DISCUSSION. AMONGST THE COUNSELORS. ALRIGHT, LET'S VOTE. ALRIGHT UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU.

HERE'S 9 25 PM, WITH NO

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.