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IS TESTING. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL MEETING WILL COME TO ORDER. IT IS 5 30 PM SEPTEMBER 28TH 2023.

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

THIS IS THE NORTH LAKE TOWN COUNCIL MEETING. ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT. LET'S GET STARTED. WELCOME TO A NEW AND RETURNING VISITORS TONIGHT. APPRECIATE YOU BEING IN ATTENDANCE WITH US. WE HAVE PASTOR BALL DO FROM ST PETER SHIRT LUTHERAN CHURCH HERE TO GIVE THE INDICATION THIS EVENING WELCOME. FATHER AND SON OF THE HOLY SPIRIT. HIS FATHER.

HE ASKED FOR BLESSING.

ONE NATION. INVISIBLE LIBERTY JUSTICE BROWN. THE TEXAS LINE. PLEDGE TO LEAVE TO THE TAXES.

ONE STAY UNDER GOD. ONE. GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME. ONCE AGAIN. WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH A

[2.A. Briefing - Comprehensive Plan Update]

COUPLE OF BRIEFINGS THIS EVENING WHERE WE WON'T BE TAKING ACTION, JUST GETTING SOME INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC AND TO THE COUNCIL. THINGS THAT WILL HAVE COMING UP IN THE NEAR FUTURE, AND THEN WE'LL GET INTO PUBLIC INPUT THERE DIRECTLY AFTER AND THEN ONTO OUR REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS. LET'S GET STARTED TONIGHT WITH THE PRESENTATION NUMBER ONE OR. ACTION ITEM A OR ITEM A. WHAT DO WE CALL THESE HAVE SOME WE JUST KEEPING IN FRONT OF YOU SOME DATES. UM GO BACK A COUPLE OF SLIDES. AND JUST, WE'VE ADDED SOME OF THE DECEMBER DATES ON THAT WE'VE GOT THE BANQUET FOR THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. ALL THE PEOPLE THAT SERVE ON OUR BOARDS AND VOLUNTEER ON OUR BOARDS. AND THEN WE'VE GOT STRATEGIC PLANNING RETREAT. WE'VE GOT A JOINT MEETING. UM, AT WITH P AND Z, SO THOSE THREE EVENTS WILL BE AT THE OUTDOOR LEARNING CENTER. THE REST WILL BE TOWN HALL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE WHO'S GIVING US THE UPDATE? NATHAN WILL AND WE'VE WE'VE HAD. SOME SOME CHANGES AND THERE IT'S A GOOD IT'S GOOD CHANGE, AND WE'VE GOT INVOLVEMENT FROM OUR STEERING COMMITTEE. AND IT WILL CHANGE OUR SCHEDULE A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU DESIRE OUT OF THIS PROCESS. SO NATHAN WILL GO THROUGH THOSE SLIDES TO SAY ONE OF THOSE CHANGES MAY BE THAT THAT JOINT MEETING ISN'T NECESSARY ON THE OCTOBER DATE. WE'LL HAVE TO PUSH IT OUT. PUSH THAT OUT. SO AGAIN, YOU'RE WELL WELL AWARE OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE THAT IS IN PROGRESS. ACTUALLY BEGAN BACK IN NOVEMBER, WHEN COUNCIL APPROVED PROPOSAL LED BY THE HALF, UH, PLANNING TEAM TO UPDATE OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. IT'S BEING DONE IN FOUR DIFFERENT PHASES. WE'RE ACTUALLY KIND OF RIGHT BETWEEN THAT PHASE THREE AND PHASE FOUR. WERE THAT THE. JUST READY TO START DRAFTING THE PLAN DO HAVE DRAFTS OF SOME OF THE CHAPTERS AND ELEMENTS OF THE PLAN. READY. ONE THING THAT'S UH, THAT'S LEFT.

GET TO THAT IN THE NEXT SLIDE FIRST, I WANT TO GO THROUGH KIND OF WHERE WE'VE BEEN IN THIS UPDATE PROCESS. AN IMPORTANT PART OF IT IS MAKING SURE THAT ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS HOLDERS HAVE ENGAGEMENT OPPORTUNITIES IN THE PROCESS. SO A STEERING COMMITTEE WAS APPOINTED TO GUIDE THIS UPDATE. THEY HAVE MET FOUR TIMES. PLUS, THEY'VE HAD TOUR. AH TOWN CENTER, INSPIRATION TO HER WENT TO THREE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS. SO THEY'VE FIRST MET ON MARCH 20TH AND LAST MET EARLIER THIS WEEK. UM ALSO HAD SOME LISTENING SESSIONS WITH KEY STAKEHOLDERS. FIVE DIFFERENT SESSIONS WERE HELD BACK IN MARCH TO HELP WITH THE INITIAL VISIONING. UH ALSO THAT SAME

[00:05:06]

WEEK AND MARCH, 23RD HAD A JOINT COUNCIL P N Z E, D. C AND C D. C VISIONING SESSION WAS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO GET THE COUNCIL AND ALL THOSE BOARDS IN THE SAME ROOM AND KIND OF DISCUSS THEIR VISION FOR THE TOWN. THEN RIGHT AFTER THAT, THERE WAS AN ONLINE COMMUNITY SURVEY THAT WAS OPEN TO THE WHOLE COMMUNITY TO PROVIDE COMMENTS AND INPUT FOR THE PLAN. AND, UM. THERE'S BEEN THREE DIFFERENT PUBLIC INPUT KIND OF TOWN HALL TYPE MEETINGS OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC IS INVITED TO COME AND HAVE INPUT ON THE PLAN. THE FIRST ONE WAS A KICKOFF OPEN HOUSE ON APRIL 3RD.

JUNE 26TH WAS ONE DEDICATED SPECIFICALLY TO THE TOWN CENTER DESIGN. AND THEN ON AUGUST 28TH WE HAD ONE TO REVIEW A DRAFT FUTURE LAND USE PLAN TOWN CENTER CONCEPT AND SOME KEY PLANT THEMES. SO AFTER THAT MEETING WE HAD A STEERING COMMITTEE SOON AFTER THAT LAST PUBLIC MEETING, AND THERE ARE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT TOWN CENTER SMALL AREA PLAN THAT RESULTED OUT OF PREVIOUS MEETINGS, SO I JUST WANT TO GO OVER HOW WE GOT TO THE TOWN CENTER SMALL AREA PLAN , AND THEN WE'LL DISCUSS SOME OF THOSE CHANGES THAT JUDAS MENTIONED. AND HOW THAT WILL AFFECT THE PLAN AND THE SCHEDULE HERE. SO, UH, REALLY STARTING OUT ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS, ADDING INCLUDED IN THAT THE IMPORTANCE OF IDENTIFYING A LOCATION FOR A FUTURE TOWN CENTER. AND, UH, WHAT ALL THAT COULD INCLUDE. SO IN THE INITIAL, UM VISIONING SESSIONS, KICKOFF MEETINGS. UH THIS WAS ALSO SOMETHING WE HEARD THAT THERE WAS A NEED FOR A TOWN CENTER FOR THE COMMUNITY. AS WE GROW. THERE IS A DESIRE FOR DIVERSITY OF RETAIL OPTIONS. WE DON'T LACK. WE DON'T HAVE A HISTORICAL, DOWNTOWN OR TOWN CENTER. SO WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE CREATE ONE AND THE OPPORTUNITY FOR SOME MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT AROUND THAT. ALSO IN THE COMMUNITY SURVEY. WE HEARD THAT DEVELOPMENT OF TOWN CENTER WAS ONE OF THE HIGHEST PRIORITIES. AND, UH, ALSO MENTIONED THAT THEY DESIRE TO HAVE ENOUGH SPACE FOR TOWN EVENTS AND COMMUNITY GATHERING GATHERING SPACE AS PART OF THAT TOWN CENTER. SO AND THE FIRST PUBLIC MEETING THAT KICKOFF MEETING, UH, THERE WERE SOME STATIONS THAT WERE DEDICATED TO HAD THAT QUESTION. WHAT MAKES A GREAT TOWN CENTER RECEIVED SEVERAL RESPONSES SOME ECONOMIC PRIORITIES. AND YOU CAN SEE NOT THE BOTTOM OF THIS SLIDE. WHERE, UH, SOME OF THE COMMENTS WE RECEIVED THE THEMES AND CONSENSUS. WE GOT WARNING A TOWN CENTER GROWTH ALONG COMMERCIAL QUARTERS. WANTING THESE GATHERING PLACES, ENTERTAINMENT AREAS, RESTAURANTS AND RETAIL WALKABLE TOWN CENTER AND INCREASED ENTERTAINMENT OPTIONS. AND BASED ON SOME OF THE RESPONSES, WE ASKED FOR A KIND OF SOME INSPIRATIONAL TOWN CENTERS BASED ON THOSE RESPONSES. WE CHOSE THREE OF THESE THAT WE'RE CLOSE ENOUGH THAT WE COULD DO IN A DAY TRIP AND THE STEERING COMMITTEE TOOK A TRIP ON A LITTLE NICE LITTLE PARTY BUS. TO DOWNTOWN ROANOKE, WHICH A NUMBER OF YEARS VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE OAK STREET, ALSO KILLER TOWN CENTER AND SOUTH LAKE TOWN SQUARE. SO THESE ARE UH, THREE VERY DIFFERENT TYPE TOWN CENTER ENVIRONMENTS AND THERE ARE ASPECTS OF ALL OF THEM THAT I THINK THAT COMMITTEE MEMBERS LIKED AND ASPECTS THAT THEY DIDN'T I THINK THEY WANTED SOMETHING MORE UNIQUE TO FIT FIT, NORTHLAKE. BUT THESE GAVE A LOT OF GOOD IDEAS FOR THE COMMITTEE. ONE OF THOSE WAS WITH THE COLOR TOWN CENTER WAS THE TOWN HALL LOCATION AND HOW IT WAS AH, THEY HAVE A TOWN CENTER AROUND IT. BUT THE TOWN HALL LOCATION IS KIND OF SURROUNDED BY MORE GREEN SPACE AND OPEN SPACE AND AREAS WHERE THEY HAVE SOME COMMUNITY WIDE EVENTS. AND THAT WAS SOMETHING I THINK THAT REALLY PIQUES THE INTEREST OF THE STEERING COMMITTEE. UM. THEN WE HAD SCENARIO WORKSHOP WITH THE STEERING COMMITTEE AND THEY WENT OVER. UM A COUPLE OF FUTURE LAND USE MAP OPTIONS. ONE WAS A TREND SCENARIO. THIS IS KIND OF HOW THINGS ARE GOING, AND THEY COMPARED IT TO AN ALTERNATE ALTERNATIVE SCENARIO. AND SOME OF THE FEEDBACK FROM THAT, UM WAS TO KEEP THE LIFESTYLE NEIGHBORHOOD. ALONG MAJOR

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CORRIDORS. THIS IS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER DENSITY, SOME SOME MIXED USE. THEY LIKED THE IDEA OF A LARGER TOWN CENTER. OPPORTUNITY YOU SEE, THE TREND SCENARIO IS JUST GOING TO ONE CORNER OF THE 11, 71 AND 35 W INTERSECTION. THE ALTERNATIVE HAS A LARGER AREA. THERE'S ALSO, UM, WANTED TO KEEP THE AREA TO THE NORTH AND WEST OF THE TOWN, PRIMARILY RURAL AND UM INDUSTRIAL USES PRIMARILY SOUTH OF THE CREEK. THEN OUR SECOND PUBLIC MEETING WAS THAT TOWN CENTER DESIGN WORKSHOP SO AS A RESULT OF THE INPUT TO THAT POINT AH! THESE TWO CONCEPTS WERE PRESENTED THAT WORKSHOP BOTH CENTERED AROUND THE 35 W 11 71. UM, INTERSECTION. CONCEPT ONE IS.

THE TOWN CENTER DEVELOPMENT IS ON THE EAST SIDE, BUT THOSE NORTH AND SOUTH OF 11 71 WITH THE, UH TOWN HALL TOWN FACILITIES LOCATION SOUTH OF 11 71. AND. USING THERE'S SOME NATURAL FLOODPLAIN AND THAT AREA AND USING THAT KIND OF CREATE A WATER FEATURE AND NICE. UM GREEN SPACE AND GATHERING SPACE IN THE AREA. SO SIMILAR CONCEPT TO A SIMILAR BUT HAD MORE, UM MORE ENTERTAINMENT, PUBLIC TYPE SPACES. IN THAT AREA SOUTH OF 11 71 AND ON THE TOWN CENTER AREA WOULD EXTEND TO THE WEST SIDE OF 35. W AND THIS IS WHERE TOWN HALL WAS PROPOSED. IT GETS IT CLOSER OVER TO DIDN'T CREAK A LITTLE MORE NATURAL AREA. SIMILAR TO THAT KILLER TOWN TOWN HALL LOCATION. AS A RESULT OF THAT MEETING. THE. PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT WE RECEIVED. IS IT THEY THOUGHT THAT CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN THE TOWN HALL LOCATION AND THE RETAIL RESTAURANTS AND ENTERTAINMENT MIXED USE AREA WAS WAS IMPORTANT. THEY WERE CONCERNED THAT PEOPLE WOULDN'T CROSS 35 W FROM A TOWN HALL OFFICERS AN EVENT OVER THERE. AND BE ABLE TO WALK OVER TO RESTAURANTS AND RETAIL ON THE OTHER SIDE OF 35 W. SO AS A RESULT OF THAT THIS BECAME THE FOCUS OF THE TOWN CENTER THAT WAS PRESENTED TO TUESDAY STEERING COMMITTEE AND AT THE FOLLOWING PUBLIC MEETING LITTLE MORE REFINED, IT'S ALL ON THE. EAST SIDE OF 35 W AND INCLUDES A TOWN HALL LOCATION ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF 11 71 BUT PROVIDES CONNECTIVITY. AND SOME RETAIL AND RESTAURANT DEVELOPMENT ON THAT SOUTH SIDE AS WELL. SO HERE'S SOME KEY FEATURES IS THE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY THROUGHOUT THE TOWN CENTER. COMMERCIAL USE IS ADJACENT TO 35. W. MIXED USE DISTRICT REMAIN FLEXIBLE INCLUDE COULD INCLUDE HOTELS, SOME MULTI FAMILY OFFICE AND RETAIL. TOWN HALL WOULD BE INTEGRATED WITH IN A NATURAL OPEN SPACE WITH WATER FEATURES AND TRAILS AND SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT. IF THIS WAS THE TOWN CENTER LOCATION CHOSEN , WAS EXPLORING OPTIONS FOR SAFE CROSSING OF 11 71. SO UM, THE STEERING COMMITTEE MET ON MONDAY OF THIS WEEK, AND ONE OF THE PRIMARY DISCUSSION POINTS WAS THIS TOWN CENTER LOCATION. SO.

THERE IS CONSENSUS FOR THE TOWN HALL LOCATION THAT INCLUDE THE PARK LIGHT SETTING WITH AREAS OF FOR COMMUNITY GATHERINGS AND EVENTS. FOR IT TO BE CENTRAL AND ACCESSIBLE LOCATION AND FOR IT TO BE THE WALKABLE HAVE WALKABLE PROXIMITY TO RETAIL AND RESTAURANTS. SO THE PROPOSED CONCEPT ATTEMPTS TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES BUT THE STEERING COMMITTEE DESIRE TO EVALUATE AN ALTERNATIVE LOCATION. NEAR THE FUTURE INTERSECTION OF FM 11 71 IN FLORENCE. SO THIS WOULD BE FURTHER WEST ON 11 71 WHEN IT IS EXTENDED. ALL THE WAY TO 1 56. SO, UM. TO DO THIS IS GOING TO REQUIRE AN AMENDED CONTRACT WITH HALF SOME ADDITIONAL MEETINGS. LITTLE BIT LONGER TIMELINE FOR APPROVAL. WE WERE SHOOTING TO GET THIS APPROVED BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR IN DECEMBER. THIS

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WILL PROBABLY ADD ANOTHER TWO OR THREE MONTHS. BUT THAT'S. THAT IS DEFINITELY DOABLE. THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT THAT IT BE DONE BY THE END OF THE YEAR. BUT THE COMMITTEE REALLY THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO FULLY EVALUATE THIS. OTHER ALTERNATIVES FELT LIKE THIS ALTERNATIVE LOCATION COULD BE MAYBE ON A SMALLER SCALE AND BE ABLE TO INCORPORATE THE. THE NATURAL AREA AND BE ABLE TO BE CONNECTED TO THE TRAIL SYSTEM BETTER. SO THEIR IDEAS TO COME BACK WITH AN ALTERNATIVE SCENARIO. AND THEN COMPARE THAT WITH THE THIS SCENARIO AT 11, 71 AND 35 W. AND BRING THAT BACK FOR ANOTHER, POTENTIALLY ANOTHER PUBLIC MEETING AND GATHER COMMENTS ON THOSE AND EVALUATE THOSE TOGETHER. SO ACTUALLY, JUST EARLIER THIS AFTERNOON HAD A CALL WITH THE HALF TEAM KIND OF DISCUSSING THE NEXT NEXT NEXT STEPS FORWARD. WE HAVEN'T SET ANY DATES IN STONE. WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO GET ANOTHER STEERING COMMITTEE MEETING. FOR SET FOR NOVEMBER TO EVALUATE THE ALTERNATIVE. ALTERNATIVE LOCATION AND WHAT IT MAY INCLUDE. AND THEN PRETTY SOON FOLLOWING IN THAT WE'D LIKE TO SCHEDULE ANOTHER PUBLIC MEETING , SO IT'S A PUBLIC HAS A CHANCE TO EVALUATE BOTH OF THOSE ALTERNATIVES. ONE THING WE WERE LOOKING AT A DATE. IN EARLY DECEMBER. THAT GETS PRETTY BUSY. WE'VE BEEN HAVING A LOT OF THESE MEETINGS ON MONDAY NIGHTS, MONDAY, DECEMBER 4TH IS WHEN THE CHRISTMAS OF THE COMMENTS EVENT IS SCHEDULED SO ONE THING WE ARE CONSIDERING AND WOULD LIKE TO HEAR YOUR INPUT ON IS SORT OF HAVING A SEPARATE PUBLIC MEETING. HAVING A SPACE OF BOOTH AT THAT EVENT WHERE THIS CAN BE PRESENTED WILL HAVE MORE PEOPLE IN THIS AREA, AND WE EVER GET TO ANY OF THESE. TOWN HALL MEETINGS HERE, SO I THINK IT COULD BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY. AND IF. IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU THINK WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA WHERE WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. QUESTIONS FOR NATHAN. GOOD. I LIKE THE IDEA OF DOING IT ON WHEN WE'RE HAVING THE CHRISTMAS WHATEVER. BECAUSE WE GET MORE PEOPLE INVOLVED THAT WAY. IS THE AMENDED CONTRACT WITH HALF GONNA HAVE COME BACK TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL. OR IS THAT STAFF APPROVAL? WE'LL SEE WHAT THE AMOUNT IS. I'VE GOT YOU'VE GIVEN ME, UM SOME CHANGE ORDER AUTHORITY. OBVIOUSLY WE'LL CONFIRM WITH OUR ATTORNEY. IF YOU'D LIKE TO BRING IT BACK. WE I WILL. I MEAN, EVEN IF IT'S WITHIN MY AUTHORITY IF YOU WANTED TO COME BACK, WE CAN DO THAT. THE REASON I ASK IS THE WHOLE REASON THAT THIS CAME BACK TO THE TO THE STEERING COMMITTEE WAS THAT SOME PAPERWORK WAS LOST AT SOME POINT BY HALF. AND THINGS KIND OF TOOK A TANGENT AND WHEN A OPPOSITE DIRECTION OR MAYBE A DIFFERENT DIRECTION. I SHOULD SAY MAYBE A DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS. SO BEING THAT HALF KIND OF HAD AN OOPSIE SOMEWHERE ALONG THE WAY. I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD BE BEING CHARGED FOR THEIR MISTAKES. MR OPINION THERE , SO I DON'T KNOW HOW RUSSIA COUNCIL FEELS ABOUT THAT. BUT I DON'T LIKE PAYING TWICE FOR THE SAME PRODUCT IF THE ORIGINAL PRODUCT WASN'T DELIVERED. NOT WEIGHING IN ON THAT, BUT AS FAR AS A PROCESS. WHEN YOU FIGURE OUT WHAT THE COST IS NOTICED THE COUNCIL JUST EMAIL IT AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBERS IF YOU WANT TO BRING IT BACK TO THE COUNCIL FOR DISCUSSION, LIKE MR CORNER TO PUT IT ON THE SCHEDULE. ALRIGHT I CONCUR WITH THE MAYOR PRO TEM. NOW I'M ON ASSESSMENT OF THE SITUATION. ANYONE ELSE? I AGREE. ALSO. I AGREE AS WELL AND I ALSO THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA TO HAVE TWO OPTIONS SHOWN AT THE CHRISTMAS OF THE COMMENTS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, SO THAT ONE'S FORWARD LOOKING AND DEFINITELY MORE INTERESTING. THIS AND NEXT ONE, BUT THIS ONE

[2.B. Briefing - Ulity Fee and Rate Adjustments]

IS A UNACCEPTABLE REALITY. AND I'LL LET JOHN BREAK THE BAD NEWS. HOW'S THAT FOR A SETUP? HOW CAN YOU HAVE UNACCEPTABLE REALITY? UNACCEPTABLE ALWAYS THERE. THANK YOU FOR THE LEAD OUT. CANNOT HAVE ANY NICER. ALRIGHT SO UTILITY FEE AND RATE ADJUSTMENTS. SO. INCLUDING THE BUDGET WAS A COUPLE DIFFERENT ADJUSTMENTS AND CHANGES IN UTILITY RATES BASED ON SOME THINGS WERE GOING ON. ONE OF THESE WAS THE STORM DRAINAGE UTILITY FEE, AND SO THIS WOULD BE A NEW FEE CHARGED TO ALL OF OUR CUSTOMERS. ALL THE CUSTOMERS WITHIN THE TOWN BOUNDARIES SO NOT HARVEST. THIS WOULD ONLY BE THOSE WITHIN TOWN. UM THIS WOULD NOT JUST AFFECT RESIDENTIAL COMFORT CUSTOMERS, BUT ALSO COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS. UM THE EVIDENT AVERAGE RESIDENTIAL LOT

[00:20:06]

SIZES LARGE IN NORTHLAKE BY INTENTION, BUT BECAUSE OF THAT, THE PROPORTION THAT COMMERCIAL PAYS IS SMALLER. AND THAT'S BECAUSE THE PROPORTIONALITY, UM HAVE A BIGGER LOT VERSUS A SMALLER LOT VERSUS COMMERCIAL SPACE FACES DIFFERENT AND SO BECAUSE OF THAT, WHAT WE CAN CHARGE COMMERCIAL LOT USERS IS ACTUALLY LESS AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ARE FACT FACTORING INTO THIS AND ONE REASON WHY THIS MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN YOU MIGHT THINK SO. WHEN YOU SAY LESS YOU MEAN RELATIVE TO OTHER COMMUNITIES? YES. SO BUT BUT BECAUSE OF THE DENSITY OF COMMERCIAL KIND OF FOOT FOR FOOT. THEY'LL PAY MORE THAN THEY'LL PAY MORE THAN RESIDENTIAL. YES THEY WILL PAY MORE. IT'S JUST THE MULTIPLIER IS LESS BECAUSE THE AVERAGE SIZED LOT IN NORTH LAKE IS HIGHER. AND SO BY HAVING LARGER LOTS WERE NOT ABLE TO CHARGE AS MUCH TO THE COMMERCIAL SIDE. BASED ON HOW THE STATE V. MY CALCULATION GOES. SO UM, WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING TO IMPLEMENT THIS MID YEAR, SO NOT RIGHT NOW, BUT I DID WANT TO BRING THIS BACK UP SINCE WE JUST DID PASS THE BUDGET, SO THAT WILL KEEP YOU IN MIND, SO THIS WILL PROBABLY BE IN APRIL WILL HAVE PUBLIC HEARINGS STARTED IN JANUARY AND MARCH, JANUARY AND FEBRUARY, SEVERAL SEVERAL MONTHS LATER TO THIS. WE'RE LOOKING AT A FEE BETWEEN FIVE AND $8. THAT'S THE RANGE THAT WERE COMING IN, BASED ON THE COST OF SERVICE. AND THEN ALL OF THIS IS TO JUSTIFY IN TO PAY FOR THE STATE MANDATED. DRAINAGE STUDY.

SO IF WE DIDN'T CHOOSE TO DO THIS THROUGH A STORM DRAIN HP, WE'D HAVE JUST PAID OUT OF THE STATE OF GENERAL FUND DOLLARS. AND THIS IS REQUIRED BY STATE LAW BECAUSE OF WHAT YEAH, WE'VE REACHED A PROPORTIONAL SIZE WHERE WE HAVE SO MUCH DRAINAGE GOING OFF THAT WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS STUDY EVERY SINGLE YEAR AND THEN RENEW THIS AND SO YES, THIS IS A PASS THROUGH BY THE STATE. AND SO IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE UNFUNDED MANDATES THAT THEY'D LIKE TO KEEP DOWN THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS. THANK YOU, TEXAS. SO ANY FEEDBACK THAT YOU HAVE ON THIS? THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S COMING, WILLIAM THE FUTURE, BUT I WANTED TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK NOW BECAUSE WE'RE ALREADY LOOKING AT THIS FOR ALREADY LOOKING AT MAPS WERE ALREADY LOOKING AT HOW WE CHARGE THIS AND THIS WOULD BE ON EVERYBODY'S UTILITY BILL, BUT WE WANT TO BE REALLY SENSITIVE BRINGING THIS FORWARD AND I KNOW THIS BEING A NEW FEEBLE WILL HAVE SOME IMPACT, SO I WANT TO GET STATUS AS SOON AS I CAN. I'M SORRY. WE SNUCK A ACRONYM IN THERE WERE OR BAD ABOUT DOING THAT. I'M TELL STAFF NO, NO ACRONYMS, BUT THAT S FOUR IS AND I HAVE TROUBLE WITH IT SOMETIMES SEEMS MUNICIPAL SEPARATE STORM SEWER SYSTEM. IS WHAT THAT MEANS . AND SO WE'VE BECOME TO THIS SIZE THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT SEPARATE SYSTEM AND WE HAVE TO SUBMIT A PERMIT TO THE TEXAS COMMISSION OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY, BUT THAT PERMIT TAKES A LOT OF BACKUP WORK. SO THAT'S WHY THAT IS, THAT IS THE COST THAT IT IS, BUT THIS IS A STATEMENT DATED REQUIREMENT BECAUSE OF OUR SIZE AND YES, SIR. SO A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT HAVE COME UP BEFORE NUMBER ONE.

WE KEEP LEADING WITH THIS ESTIMATE FOR WHAT IT COSTS, BUT I STILL WANT TO SEE THE BREAKDOWN OF THE COMPONENTS OF WHAT WE NEED TO PAY FOR IT. WHEN WE GET INTO THE COST. SECOND UM , I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE I EXPECT YOU TO DO THE MODELING IN SUCH A WAY THAT FALLS ALONG IT DOES PROPORTIONALITY AND ALL THOSE THINGS AND HOW YOU MODEL IT OUT. THAT'S FINE. WE'LL SEE WHAT THAT COMES OUT TO BE. THIRD. WE DID TALK SOMETIME AGO . ON THE LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT THIS TOPIC ABOUT RURAL AREAS THAT HAVE THEIR OWN ABSORPTION. AND WHAT WAYS THEY CAN BE CARVED OUT TO SOME DEGREE BECAUSE THEIR LAND ABSORBS THE WATER TRADITIONALLY HAS MANAGED THE WATER. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE COMPONENTS ARE IN ANY PLAN THAT WE PUT FORWARD WHEN WE GET TALKING ABOUT THIS, BUT THIS IS STILL A SKELETON, SO IT'S GONNA NEED A LOT MORE MEAT ON THE BONE BEFORE WE'RE AT A POINT WHERE WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT, SO JUST MAKE SURE YOU BRING IT IN TIME SO WE CAN HAVE A ROBUST DISCUSSION. YES SO THESE COSTS ARE FACTORED IN. MOST OF THIS IS FOR BUILDING THE PERMITS. GETTING THAT PERMIT DOING THIS. STUDY THE ENGINEERING COST OF IT AND JUST GOT TO SEE THE LINE ITEMS. YES SIR. WHAT THE ESTIMATES ARE AND THEN THAT ALLOWS ME TO GO COMPARE IT WITH OTHER CITIES AND START TO ASSESS WHETHER THIS IS REASONABLE AND THE BEST WAY FORWARD. AND THIS IS REALLY JUST PAYING FOR THAT. MISS BOARD PERMITTING, IF WE WANTED THINGS LIKE YOUR STREET SWEEPING, OR ANYTHING ELSE, THIS FEET WOULD HAVE TO INCREASE SO ADDITIONAL SERVICES OUT OF THIS. THIS IS JUST BARE BONES. THAT $500,000 ESTIMATE IS JUST GETTING THE MESS FOR HERMIT IMPLEMENTING THE BUILDING CYCLE AND WE'LL GET YOU THE DETAILS, SIR. THAT'S THE EXPECTATION. THANK YOU. ALSO THE ABSORPTION. SO ONE THING YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ON THE RURAL RESIDENTIAL LOTS AND I KNOW THERE ARE LARGE. LOTS OF THIS IS ALL BASED ON IMPERVIOUS SERVICE, SO IT'S NOT ABOUT HOW MUCH SOMETHING ELSE CAN ABSORB. IT'S REALLY ABOUT HOW MUCH CONCRETE AND PAVEMENTS THAT ANYONE PLACE HAS POOLS. POOLS ARE A BIG ONE, PURCHASED BY DESIGN AND OTHER OTHER FUN PIECES LIKE THAT, SO THAT'S WHAT A LOT OF THIS IS, AND THEY TAKE ALL OF THOSE AND AGGREGATE THEM FROM LARGE LOT, TOO SMALL LOT, AND THAT'S HOW WE

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GET THAT AVERAGE NUMBER. THAT BECOMES THE EQUIVALENT THAT WE CHARGE COMMERCIAL. SO HOW MANY OF THOSE FIT IN THE COMMERCIAL SIZE AND THAT'S THAT'S THE MULTIPLIER. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I WAS TALKING ABOUT. LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE A SMALLER RESIDENTIAL LOT, THE MULTIPLIERS HIGHER IF WE HAVE LARGER THAN IT'S A LITTLE BIT, UM LESS. YEAH NO, I EXPECT US TO GO THROUGH IN DETAIL THE MODELING, BUT I EXPECT THE MODELING TO FOLLOW THE RULES. BUT BEFORE WE EVEN TALK ABOUT ESTIMATES AND TIMELINE. I WANT TO GO OVER THIS DRAINAGE STUDY AND WHAT IT DOES AND BE ABLE TO COMPARE IT TO OTHER CITIES AND WHAT THAT'S COSTING THEM AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE IN LINE WITH WHAT WE'RE ATTEMPTING TO DO AND MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS THE DIRECTION WE NEED TO GO IN ORDER TO DO THIS. LIKE I SAID, IT'S A SKELETON. IT'S SATISFACTORY FOR THE MOMENT, BUT THEY CAN'T REALLY GET INTO DETAILS UNTIL YOU PROVIDE IT. YEAH AND I'VE GOT A I'VE GOT A NIFTY THING FOR YOU ON THIS, TOO. SO I'VE GOT A REALLY FUN CHART THAT'S WAS SENT BY A RAY CONSULTANTS THAT IT'S SUPER FUN LIKE IF IT SHOWS BASICALLY THE FEE FOR EVERY SINGLE CITY THAT THEY'VE DONE THIS STUDY FOR OR THROUGHOUT TEXAS AND HOW MUCH IT IS PER RESIDENTIAL AREA, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, AVERAGE RESIDENTIAL SIZE AND WITH THE THAT LOOKS LIKE AND SO IT'S SINCE THIS IS A PROGRAM ACROSS THE STATE, I THINK IT'S KIND OF PROBLEM, BUT, YEAH, I'LL GIVE YOU SOME MORE INFORMATION WHEN WE GET CLOSER TO TIME IN FINANCE, ARE YOU? OH, NO, NOT AT ALL. I DON'T LIKE NUMBERS. SO A LESS LIKE FUTURISTIC THING IS A UTILITY RATES THE ADJUSTMENTS SO OUR 2024 BUDGET PROJECTED THAT WE WOULD RE INCREASE UTILITY RATES BECAUSE WE HAVE TWO MAJOR SERVICE DRIVERS AND WHICH IS WHOLESALE SUPPLY COST. SO THE BIGGEST ONE IS ON THE WATERSIDE , WHICH IS $2 MILLION OR 60% INCREASE, AND THAT IS JUST A WHOLESALE BECAUSE THEIR DEBT SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ESTIMATING THEIR COST IS BASED ON THE CONSUMPTION THAT WE HAD LAST YEAR. HOW MUCH WE'RE GOING TO USE BASED ON THEIR WHOLESALE PRICING THIS LIKE, YOU KNOW, UTILIZING STATE OF MARRIAGE STEWARD SERVICE LIKE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ESTIMATING THE TOTAL COST.

PLUS 18,000 GALLON SEWER CAP THE OTHER SIDE ON THE WATER DRIVER NOW THIS IS A BIG NUMBER TWO, BUT IT DOESN'T REALLY IMPACT RATES AS MUCH, UM, WHERE $1.4 MILLION INCREASE AND THIS IS THE RATCHET. SO THIS IS A BASE INCREASE OF COST FOR A SUBSCRIPTION. AND THIS YOU KNOW, GIVES US HOW MUCH WATER THAT WE'RE GOING TO PURCHASE A MILLION GALLONS PER DAY. AND THIS WAS A BIG ONE. WE'RE EATING SOME OF THIS BECAUSE OF OUR SIZE AND WE'RE GROWING. SO THERE IS SOME ECONOMIES OF SCALE THAT DOES COME IN. AS WE GROW. WE GROW INTO THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE, SO YOU'RE GOING TO SEE LESS OF AN INCREASE ON THE WATERSIDE BECAUSE BECAUSE OF THAT? UM THE OTHER THING THAT REALLY HELPED WAS FORT WORTH WHOLESALE WATER COST DECREASED.

15% IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE EVER SEEN WHOLESALE COSTS DECREASED, BUT WE'RE JUST A SMALLER PORTION OF FORT WORTH AND OUR MAX, OUR MAX DAY WENT DOWN. AND SO THAT'S THAT'S KIND OF A STORY THERE.

AND SO A 15% DECREASE IN COST IS PRETTY GOOD, JUST LIKE A HUGE OFFSET, BUT IT DOES HELP EVERY LITTLE BIT DOES. SO WHAT THIS KIND OF IS DOING TO OUR RATES? COULD YOU BACK UP AND GO OVER THAT SEWER CAP? A LITTLE BITTER MAYOR, DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT? THERE'S SURE I CAN SPEAK TO THAT. BUT I HAD A POINT. I DIDN'T GET TO YOU IN TIME TO MAKE THIS POINT. BUT THERE'S A SIZABLE AMOUNT OF SHOCK VALUE WHEN YOU PUT 51% 61 60% ON HERE. THOSE ARE PORTIONS. OF THE COMPONENTS THAT MAKE UP OUR TOTAL COST, SO I THINK IT WOULD BE USEFUL FOR US TO SEE THE TOTAL COST OF WATER. THE TOTAL COST OF SEWER BECAUSE THIS IS ONLY ONE OF THE THREE COMPONENTS. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT WE'VE GOT THE WHOLESALE RATE. WE'VE GOT THE SUBSCRIPTION RATE AND THEN WE HAVE OUR FIXED FOR COME ON ITS FIXED COSTS FOR MAINTENANCE AND FOR PUBLIC WORKS AND ALSO OUR CAPITAL COSTS. SO THIS IS NOT WHOLESALE. IT'S NOT PUBLIC WORKS. IT'S NOT CAPITAL WATER TANKS. THIS IS THE SUBSCRIPTION COSTS. WHOLESALE PRICE DRIVERS.

YES OKAY, SO THIS IS NOT A REPUBLIC WORKS INCREASED. WE HAD SO MANY MORE PEOPLE. THIS IS HONESTLY JUST OUR WHOLE SELF REVISION WHO WE PASSED THROUGH WHO WE BUY THROUGH, ALL RIGHT, SO IT'S HELPFUL IF YOU CAN POINT OUT THE COMPONENTS THAT ARE CHANGING. SO GIVE US A LITTLE TABLE. THAT'S GOT THREE OR FOUR COMPONENTS. AND WHAT'S CHANGING BECAUSE IT'S ONE COMPONENT OF THE TOTAL. BUT THE PASS THROUGH IS NOT A 51% INCREASE IN OUR RATES. IT'S A FRACTION OF THAT PIECE. SO IT'S THE RASH IT OF LIKE, HOW MUCH AT BASE THEY'RE GOING TO CHARGE US IN OUR BASEBALL, SO JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAILED TO PUT THE FULL PICTURE TOGETHER ON THE WHOLESALE SIDE, JUST AS A 0.1 OTHER THING I WOULD LIKE IS I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE BUDGETS FOR OPPORTUNITY AND T R A SO IF YOU CAN PUT THAT DOWN AS IT TO DO, I'D LIKE THE COUNCIL TO HAVE THOSE I UNDERSTAND THERE. RATHER LENGTHY LARGE DOCUMENTS, BUT I NEED TO SEE DIRECTLY WHERE THESE ARE COMING FROM AND GET A LITTLE BIT SMARTER ON EXACTLY WHAT'S THEIR DRIVERS ARE ON THE T R A SIDE. I'M REALLY UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THIS ONE BEEN TALKING TO FELLOW MAYORS ABOUT THIS ONE THAT ARE SHARING THIS COST. THIS ONE'S THIS ONE'S TOUGH TO SWALLOW. SO WE DO WANT TO GET INTO THAT ONE A LITTLE BIT FURTHER, BUT NOT NECESSARILY CONVERSATION TODAY, BUT I NEED TO SEE SOME SOME NUMBERS SO I CAN GET INTO THAT ONE. THE 10,000 GALLONS SEWER CAP. I'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE COUNCIL . THIS IS MY PREFERENCE, SO I'VE PREEMPTED THE CONVERSATION WITH

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STAFF. SO IF YOU DON'T WANT THIS, THIS IS YOUR CALL. UM, WE DO NOT HAVE A RELIABLE EXACT MEANS TO MEASURE SEWER WE ESTIMATED BASED ON THE WINTER AVERAGE IF SOMEONE MISSES THE WINTER AVERAGE BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T KNOW THEY WEREN'T PAYING ATTENTION. THEY DIDN'T REALIZE THEY WERE USING WATER OR SOMETHING ELSE HAPPENS WHERE THEY HAD A RUNNING TOILET.

DURING THAT PERIOD. THERE'S CAN BE SUBSTANTIALLY HIGHER THAN SOMEBODY WITH THE SAME AMOUNT OF USAGE NEXT DOOR FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR. IT HAPPENS AND THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT GET WAY OFF.

BLACK AND EVEN IN MY OWN NEIGHBORHOOD, PEOPLE POST THEIR SEWER BILL, AND I CAN'T BELIEVE HOW MUCH THEY'RE PAYING, AND THEY'RE IN THE SAME SIZE HOUSE FOR THE SAME AMOUNT OF KIDS AS I HAVE. IT'S JUST NOT A FAIR ALLOCATION. WE DON'T HAVE A GOOD WAY TO DO IT. THIS IS THE WAY EVERYBODY DOES IT. BUT WE ESTIMATE USING THE WINTER AVERAGE. I'VE SEEN A COUPLE OF CITIES DO THIS. IT'S SUBSTANTIALLY HELPS PEOPLE BECAUSE IT FLATTENS OUT THE COST CURVE ACROSS THE YEAR AND IT HELPS PEOPLE KNOW THAT THERE'S A BACKSTOP THAT THEY WILL NOT PAY MORE THAN A CERTAIN AMOUNT IN TOTAL FOR THE YEAR ON A MONTHLY BASIS THAT PROTECTS THEM FROM THE EXTREME VOLATILITY AND UTILITY RATES. IT ALSO MAKES SURE THAT THOSE FOLKS WHO MIGHT HAVE MISSED THE WARNING ON WINTER AVERAGING DON'T GET UNFAIRLY PENALIZED FOR THE NEXT YEAR, AND THEY CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I'VE SEEN A COUPLE OF CITIES DO. I THINK IT'S A GOOD CUSTOMER SERVICE THING. I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE A LITTLE BIT INEQUITIES THERE. YOU WILL SUBSIDIZE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE. AND YOU ALSO SAVE SOME PEOPLE FROM EXTREME. VAGARIES OF RATES FLYING ALL OVER THE PLACE , SO IT'S NOT UNUSUAL, BUT IT'S NOT USUAL EITHER. IT'S JUST A MODEL THAT IT DOES. IT DOES CREATE MORE. YOU HAVE TO CAPTURE MORE ON THE BOTTOM ACROSS EVERYBODY, BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT GIVES A LOT OF PEOPLE A LOT MORE COMFORT THAT THEY DON'T HAVE ALL THESE BALLS, PIECES OR THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT MONTH A MONTH OR THEY GET A NEW BILL IN APRIL AND REALIZED OH, SHOOT MIND SEWER IS GOING TO BE REALLY HIGH FOR THE NEXT YEAR, AND THEY CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT FROM A CUSTOMER SERVICE STANDPOINT, I DON'T LIKE BEING ON THE OTHER END OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS. I DON'T LIKE OUR STAFF BEING ON THE OTHER END OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS BECAUSE IT DOES NOT LEAVE THE POWER. WITHIN THE PERSON'S CONTROL TO CHOOSE HOW MUCH UTILITIES THEY USE. AT THAT POINT, IT'S JUST IT'S LOCKED IN, AND THEY'RE STUCK FOR A YEAR. SO I'D LIKE TO SEE THIS MODELED OUT AS TO WHAT THE RATES WOULD DO. BUT THAT'S THE GENESIS OF THAT THOUGHT PROCESS HAVE TALKED ABOUT IT BEFORE. IT'S MY PERSONAL PREFERENCE. IT IS NOT SOMETHING THE COUNCIL HAS TO.

TAKE SERIOUSLY. YOU CAN ALL DECIDE WHETHER YOU WANT TO SEE THIS OR NOT. TO THAT POINT MAYOR. I THINK THAT'S AN EXCELLENT INTRO TO THAT. SO WE CAN DECIDE ON THAT NUMBER OR COUNCIL CAN BE MORE INFORMED UPON THAT NUMBER. THEY PERCENTAGE OF USERS AT WHAT USAGE SO. MAYBE YOU HAVE SHUT DOWN. MAYBE I HAVE TO SHIFT UP TO 11. BUT SOME BELL CURVE THERE WOULD PROBABLY HELP US. THANK YOU GOT A LITTLE BIT ON THIS THIS NEXT SLIDE, SO I CAN ACTUALLY GIVE YOU SOME NUMBERS BEHIND IT. SO IF WE WANT TO INCLUDE A SEWER CAPITAL COST US $3. SO IT'S YOUR CAPITAL COST $3 IN THE BASE BILL FOR ALL OF OUR OWN SEWER BASEBALL. PER MONTH PER MONTH. AND SO THAT WILL PUT IT IN THERE, APPROXIMATELY IT SAVE 380 USERS. THAT'S HOW MANY MANY LIKE OR THAT HAVE A SEWER CAP OR A WINTER AVERAGE OVER 10,000 GALLONS, AND SO BY PUTTING IT 10,000. IT'S ABOUT 380 USERS WHO WILL, UM, BENEFIT FROM THAT AND HAVE A CAT BILL.

THAT'S NOT TO SAY THEY'RE USING THAT MUCH. THE MAYOR'S RIGHT. THERE'S NOT A GOOD WAY TO MEASURE THAT, SO IT'S JUST KIND OF PUTTING A CAP ON WHAT THE TOTAL BILL IS PER MONTH. UM THE BIGGEST THING THAT YOU SEE DRIVING PRICE RIGHT HERE IS THAT YOU KNOW THAT WHOLE DECREASE. I TRY TO PUT THIS IN NET. YOU'RE GOING TO GET A LOT OF NUMBERS. THIS NEXT PRESENTATION WHEN WE GO TO ADOPT RATES, BUT I WANTED TO SEE YOU KIND OF THE NET EFFECT OF WHAT THESE PRICE INCREASES HAVE DONE. SO ON THE WATERSIDE, IT ADDS $3 TO YOUR BASE BILL ADDS 40 CENTS TO YOUR FIRST STEP 50 TO YOUR NEXT STEP IN 72 YOUR STEP AFTER THAT. ON SEE WHERE IT ADDS $8 TO YOUR BASE $3 MORE IF YOU WANT THOSE TO RECAP, AND THEN $2.30 PER 1000 GALLON. AND SO, UM MARY YOU. YOU ASKED US WHENEVER WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT EARLIER ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD WE NEED TO DO LIKE HOW MUCH WOULD WE HAVE TO CHANGE THE BASE? IF WE JUST WANTED TO PUT IT ALL TO THE BASE? ALL THESE COST INCREASES TO THE BASE? WHAT DOES THAT NUMBER LOOK LIKE? I'M WORKING WITH ARE RAY CONSULTANTS TO SEE WHAT THAT IMPACT IS? I'LL THROW A SINCERE AT THAT POINT AS WELL, UM WE'RE ACTUALLY REALLY LOW ON THE TOTEM POLE WHEN IT COMES TO A BASE RATES AND BASE RATES HAVE UNIQUE FEATURE WHEN IT COMES TO YOUR YOUR FISCAL CASH FLOW. SO HIGHER BASE RATES GIVE YOU MORE CONSISTENT BILLS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR BECAUSE YOU'RE PAYING A LITTLE BIT MORE IN THE WINTER TIME A LITTLE BIT LESS IN THE SUMMERTIME, SO HELPS FLATTEN THE CURVE A LITTLE BIT.

IT ALSO HELPS US FROM A CASH FLOW STANDPOINT THE BACK OFFICE BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING MORE CONSISTENT CASH FLOW THROUGHOUT THE WINTER MONTHS, AND IT'S HELPING US PAY BILLS BUILD UP SOME RESERVES WHEN WE HIT THE SUMMER. ALSO BUT THERE'S ANOTHER WAY TO LOOK AT. IT IS LOOKING AT

[00:35:02]

IT COMPETITIVELY ACROSS CITIES. I HAVE MODELS THAT I KEEP AS CITIES CHANGE THEIR RATES AND MODEL THEM IN MY SPREADSHEET JUST TO KEEP UP WITH WHERE DO WE FIT AND WHERE? WHAT WHAT USAGE LEVELS ARE WE HIGHER THAN OTHERS OR LESS THAN OTHERS? WHAT AREAS WHAT USAGE PROFILES GET KIND OF SUBSIDIZED VERSUS OTHER CITIES. OR ARE MORE EXPENSIVE COMPARED TO OTHER CITIES. UM WHERE WE'VE BEEN RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE. WE'RE IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE. THIS IS GOING TO PUT US HIGHER. IN THE BAND. I'M EXPECTING OTHER CITIES TO HAVE TO FOLLOW SUIT BECAUSE THERE ARE ALSO EXPERIENCING THE SAME PASSTHROUGHS. SOME OF THEM ARE BIGGER CAN HANDLE IT BETTER BECAUSE THEY SPREAD IT ACROSS MORE AREA OR THEY'RE NOT COMPLETELY ON OPPORTUNITY. OR T R A BUT SEVERAL OF THE CITIES THAT ARE ON T YOUR EXPERIENCE IN THIS AS WELL. SO MY POINT IS, IS THAT WE'RE AT THE $25 BASE. OUR NEIGHBORS TO THE HIGHER ONES ARE ISLAND FLOWER MOUND. THERE ARE $40.40 DOLLARS AND $40.29. SO FROM A CUSTOMER SERVICE STANDPOINT, WHEN YOU LOOK AT PRICES AND YOU'RE COMPARING YOURSELF WHAT YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE IS WILD DIFFERENCES. IF WE IF IT COSTS US SIMILAR TO TWO OTHERS TOWNS YOU WANT TO BE FAIRLY CLOSE AND SORT OF PROFILE AS TO WHAT THEY COST.

EVERYBODY'S COMPARING ACTUALLY FEES AND TAXES AND UTILITY RATES. EVERYBODY WANTS TO KNOW THAT THERE IS EQUITY. THERE'S FAIRNESS THAT THERE'S BALANCE BETWEEN CITIES THAT DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT YOU'RE SUBSTANTIALLY CHARGING MORE THAN ANYBODY ELSE. IF YOU ARE SUBSTANTIALLY UNDER CHARGING, THEN YOU'RE PROBABLY REDUCING IT SOMEWHERE ELSE IN YOUR BUDGET AND TAKING FROM A DIFFERENT SOURCE. WE WANT TO BE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE. WE HAVE A FAIRLY WE HAVE A VERY THRIFTY PUBLIC WORKS TEAM THAT DOES A GOOD JOB AT THE OPERATIONS PIECE , BUT THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT THE WHOLESALE PIECE. SO OUR RATES ARE OBVIOUSLY GONNA HAVE TO GO UP TO COVER THE WHOLESALE PIECE. BUT FROM BASE STANDPOINT, MY ASK OF STAFF IS TO MODEL OUT WHAT WOULD OR THE CONSULTANT RATHER IS TO MODEL OUT. WHAT WOULD IT LOOK LIKE AS WE GET A LITTLE BIT HIGHER IN THE RATES? I WILL SAY, DO NOT GO ABOVE OUR GROUND FLOOR AMOUNT. DO NOT GET ABOVE THE $40 MARK.

THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE ON THE BASE. BUT IF WE'RE NOT CHANGING THE RATES THAT DOES GIVE SOME FOLKS A LITTLE BIT LESS OF THAT. WILD BILL'S THAT THEY GO FROM 100 IN THE WINTER TO 800 IN THE SUMMER, WHICH I KNOW A FEW PEOPLE EXPERIENCE. THIS WON'T MAKE THAT SUBSTANTIALLY DIFFERENT, BUT HITTING THE BASE DEFINITELY MAKES IT MORE CONSISTENT AND I THINK DOES DO A BETTER JOB OF MORE EQUITABLY, SHARING THE COST AMONGST LOW WATER USERS AND HIGHER WATER USERS. SO THAT'S MY ASK BASED ON MY STUDY OF COMPARATIVE RATES ACROSS THE REGION. I'VE LOOKED AT AN AWFUL LOT OF CITY TABLES. AND SO THAT'S MY PERSONAL RESEARCH THAT I'VE DONE. THE CONSULTANT DOES THE SAME THING, BUT THAT'S MY ASK IS TO LOOK AT ADDING TO THE BASE MORE THAN ADDING TO THE RATES. COUNCIL SO THAT'S MY DIRECTION TO THEM, BUT THAT'S MY DIRECTION AGAIN. IF YOU DON'T THINK THAT THAT FITS WELL, OR YOU THINK THAT WON'T WON'T BE RECEIVED WELL THAN SAY NOW AND GIVE THEM SOME DIRECTION AS TO WHAT MODELS YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE OR ANY OTHER CHANGES TO THIS. YOU'D LIKE TO SEE. WE GET OUR BASE RATE FROM HOW MANY DIFFERENT SOURCES ARE LIKE WATER AND SEWER. NO THAT'S NOT THE WAY I'M ASKING IT. I MEAN, WE'RE GETTING IT FROM FORT WORTH, AND THEN WE'RE GETTING IT FROM TRINITY. YES WATER, ONE FOR SYRIA, GETTING IN WATER FROM OUR OWN WELL ANYWHERE ANYMORE, OKAY? SO WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT RATES THAT WE HAVE TO PUT TOGETHER A GREAT YES. OKAY? YEAH IT DOES MAKE IT TRICKY BECAUSE FORT WORTH CHARGES ON A MAX OUR MAX DAY, WHEREAS OPPORTUNITY CHARGES ON A RATCHET SYSTEM, WHICH HAS A LIKE HIGH DOLLAR THRESHOLD, AND THEN THEY CHARGE A LOWER VOLUMETRIC LEE, SO THE DIFFERENT RATE MODELS CREATE DIFFERENT VOLATILITY, WHEREAS OPPORTUNITY KEEPS, YOU KNOW, KEEP RATCHETING UP FORT WORTH, MAX ARE MAX DAY HAS HIGH VOLATILITY IF WE HAVE ANOTHER HIGH YEAR WILL PAY FOR IT FOR LIKE, FIVE YEARS AFTER THAT, SO THERE'S GOOD AND BAD BASED ON THOSE RAPE MODELS.

ROGER YOU REMEMBER YEARS AGO WE HAD A REALLY HIGH MAX, OUR MAX TODAY. ACTUALLY, IT WAS MOTEL SIX. CLEAN THEIR FACILITY FOR A PHOTO SHOOT AND JUST KNOCK TARMAC SARAH MAX DAY AND WE SO THAT WAS JUST LIKE JOHN CENA. VERY VOLATILE. THAT SO SOME YEARS WE GET HIT REALLY HARD WITH THAT MAXIMUM NEXT DAY. OTHER YEARS WERE FINE FOR TRAINING A LITTLE BIT MORE CONSISTENT BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT THAT SUBSCRIPTION, SO WE'RE HOPEFULLY BENEFITING THIS YEAR BEFORE WORST DECREASE, BUT WE'VE HAD THE OPPOSITE WHERE WE'VE HAD OPPORTUNITY KIND OF LOCK IN AND FOOTWORK HAVE SOME INCREASES. WELL, I REMEMBERED THAT WE'D HAD SOME KIND OF PROBLEMS. AND I GUESS WE NOW MAGICALLY NO SOLUTION, RIGHT? NO, WE'RE MORE AWARE NOW AND WE HAVE WE HAVE 400 M NOW THAT COLLECT THAT INFORMATION. SO IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO USE A LOT OF WATER, WE

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CAPTURE THAT. BUT THAT WAS KIND OF IN OUR EARLY DAYS AND WE DIDN'T HAVE 400 M. SO TAKE CARE OF ALL THAT FOR US. BY THE WAY ON THE SEWER CAP, AS MAYOR PRO TEM SAID, DO TAKE A LOOK. YOU DON'T HAVE TO BRING IT BACK TO US, BUT FIND AN APPROPRIATE RATE CAP. IF IT'S 10 OR 11,000, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE THAT BALANCES OUT THE INCREASE WITH, YOU KNOW THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT YOU'RE SAVING FROM THOSE REALLY HIGH BILLS. THAT SHOULD BE REALLY SMALL NUMBER. OKAY AND I KNOW YOU CAME UP WITH A NUMBER SO FAR AT 3 80 THAT THAT MIGHT BE TOO MANY. BUT USE. THE MODEL USED THE CONSULTANT TO HELP GUIDE US AS TO WHAT THE CAP WOULD BE MOST APPROPRIATE AT THE GOAL IS TO GET A CAP THAT PEOPLE CAN FEEL AS A BACKSTOP, SO THEY KNOW IT WON'T GO OVER A CERTAIN NUMBER. YEAH. DO WE HAVE THE WATER STORAGE TANK IN SOUTH PLANE? FINALLY UP AND OPERATIONAL. I KNOW IT WAS DELAYED FOR SOME TIME. YES WE'RE OFF FOOT WORTH PRESSURE SYSTEM, THE MILLION GALLONS STORIES TANK AND THE ELEVATOR STORAGE TANKER OPERATIONS THAT POSSIBLY AFFECT OUR MAX OUR MAX DAY BECAUSE OF THE STORAGE HELPS US TREMENDOUSLY MANAGED THAT OKAY, SO WE CAN EXPECT THIS ISN'T A OFF THE WALL. A ONE TIME YOU'RE SUPER LOW, AND WE CAN MANAGE THAT BETTER NOW, SO OUR CHANCES THAT SPIKING BACK UP OR LOWER THAN THEY WOULD BE CORRECT AND A LOT OF TIMES IT'S A BACKWARD LOOKING CHARGED. YOU KIND OF CAUGHT YOU BY SURPRISE. WE WON'T HAVE THOSE MOVING FORWARD BECAUSE GOOD POINTS SO WE CAN PRETTY MUCH COUNT ON THAT 15% SAVINGS RIGHT NOW. IT'S NOT JUST THE WELL, WE'RE NOT LIKELY TO LOSE. EXCELLENT I THOUGHT SOMETHING HAD TO DRIVE THAT. I FIGURED IT WAS TANK COMING ONLINE. GROUND STORAGE, ELEVATED STORAGE. BOTH OF THOSE THINGS HELP HEAVILY ALSO WRAPPING UP A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION. NOW WE STILL HAVE TWO MAJOR CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS DONE IN THAT AREA. BUT THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT DRIVES HEAVY WATER USAGE. ANYTIME I HAD TO DO A LOT OF DIRT WORK AND EVERYTHING NOW ON THE FLIP SIDE, WILL THAT SAME SYSTEM BE POWERING A LOT OR PROVIDING WATER CATHERINE BRANCHES THAT COMES UP IT COMES ONLINE. SO MAYBE THIS ISN'T AS LONG LIVED AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AT THAT TIME WERE WORKING ON A SECOND POINT OF DELIVERY. THAT'S THAT'S ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS WERE DOING SO AT THE SAME TIME WE'RE UPSIZING THE SYSTEM, SO THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME CAPITAL AND OTHER THINGS THAT WILL OFFSET AND CHANGED INTO THAT. BUT I DON'T I DON'T SEE HUGE SPIKES. THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE? ALL RIGHT. GO HAVE FUN MODEL. SOME NUMBERS, SIR. ALL RIGHT. AND NOW FOR THE PAINT DRYING EXERCISE. SORRY, ERIC. I'M SETTING EVERYBODY UP

[2.C. Briefing- Engineering Design Manual Revisions]

FOR LOW EXPECTATIONS TIME. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. WE'RE PROPOSING TO UPDATE THE ENGINEERING DESIGN MANUAL, WHICH INCLUDES WATER, WASTEWATER STREETS, PAVING STREETS YET PAVING AND UM DRAINAGE. UM NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS UPDATED THERE.

PUBLIC WORKS CONSTRUCTION MANUAL . SO WE'RE PROPOSING TO UPDATE THAT TO REFERENCE SOME OF OUR DETAILED DRAWINGS SPECIFICATIONS. IN THERE. AND THEN ALSO THE INTEGRATED.

STORMWATER MANAGEMENT. EVERYBODY KNOWS DRAINAGE IS A BIG BIGGEST THING IN TOWN FOR A LOT OF THESE BIGGER LOTS OF DIVISIONS, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT UPDATING THAT AS WELL, PROPOSING THAT THERE'S JUST STOP SOME CRITICAL FLOW CALCULATIONS. DESIGN GUIDELINES RECOMMENDATIONS PROCEDURES THAT WERE. THAT THEY HAVE RECOMMENDED , AND WE'RE WANTING TO UPDATE THOSE. AS WELL TO BE IN LINE WITH WHAT THEIR NEW STANDARDS ARE. ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH SOMETHING LIKE THIS. I WAS HOPING TO FIND A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION IN THE MEMO OR IN THE PRESENTATION JUST YOU KNOW, MAYBE A TOP FIVE THINGS THAT WERE IMPACTED AND HOW THEY IMPACT OUR FUTURE PLANNING OUR FUTURE COST OF THESE CHANGES. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT WAY IT'S GOING TO INCREASE OUR COSTS ON WATER LINES INCREASE OUR COSTS WHERE JUST SO WE HAVE A BETTER FORWARD LOOKING VIEW ON THESE THINGS. UM SO I MEAN, IT'S JUST A BRIEFING ITEM. THAT'S A FINE FIRST PASSED BEFORE WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO APPROVE THIS, SO I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT THOSE TOP FIVE OR TOP 10 THINGS ARE AND HOW THEY IMPACT OUR PLANNING. OVER THE NEXT 10, 5 OR 10 YEARS. WE CAN PROVIDE THIS FOR YOU. YEAH, WE'LL SEND YOU THE DETAILS THERE. REPORTS FROM THE U. WANT US TO SUMMARIZE THOSE. I THINK IT'S SOME REAL PROBABLY BEST FOR NOT ALL. WORKING OFF THE SAME DECK WHEN IT COMES TO WHAT DOES A FULL DECK? YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. IT'S A IT'S A BIG MANUAL. I'M QUITE SURE SO KIND OF THE HIGHLIGHTS AND WHAT CAN AFFECT OUR COSTS AND OUR PLANNING

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MOVING FORWARD. IT'S A IT'S A ERIC SENT ME A HIGHLIGHTED DOCUMENTS NOT TO DANCE AND GET JUST KIND OF GIVES TOPICS. IT DOESN'T GO INTO THE CALCULATIONS , BUT IT IT'S LIKE A TABLE OF CONTENTS OF WHAT WE'RE COVERING. WE'LL TRY TO DO A LITTLE ANALYSIS. LIKE YOU SAID. WE HAVE A AN ITEM TO CALL FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THE OCTOBER 12TH MEETING, THERE WILL BE A PUBLIC HEARING, BUT IN THE MEANTIME, WE'LL GET YOU THOSE DETAILS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

[3. PUBLIC INPUT]

ALRIGHT 6 15 PM TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT I HAVE ONE CARD TURNED IN AND THEN YOU CAN WAVE AT ME IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK AFTER THIS ONE, BUT NICOLE, MORE HE'LL SPEAK AFTER DO WE HAVE A PUBLIC? WE HAVE A WE'VE KEPT IT OPEN. I BELIEVE PUBLIC HEARINGS STILL OPEN ON THAT ITEM. YES OKAY.

ALRIGHT. YOU CAN SPEAK AT THE IN A FEW MINUTES AT THE ITEM ARE RIGHT. OKAY, VERY GOOD. OTHERS FOR PUBLIC INPUT TONIGHT. OKAY? 6. 16 PM WILL CLOSE PUBLIC INPUT. ALL RIGHT. LADIES AND

[4. CONSENT ITEMS]

GENTLEMEN, WE HAVE FOUR ITEMS FOR CONSENT CONSIDERATION. ITEM A IS THE TOWN COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES FOR SEPTEMBER. 14TH ITEM B IS A RESOLUTION OF 10 NORTHLAKE, APPROVING THE MANAGER TO EXECUTE AND LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE REGARDING THIS POSITION OF CONTRABAND, SEIZED OR FORFEITED UNDER CHAPTER 59. WE HAVE A, UM, RESOLUTION DECLARING CERTAIN PERSONAL PROPERTY OWNED BY THE TOWN OF NORTH LIKE TO BE DISPOSED OF, AND THEN WE HAVE A CALLING THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE ENGINEERING DESIGN MANUAL REVISIONS THAT WERE JUST MENTIONED A FEW MINUTES AGO. SO THOSE ARE THE FOUR ITEMS WE HAVE FOR CONSIDERATION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA COUNSELORS. YOU MAY PULL THEM FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION OR I'LL TAKE YOUR MOTION, WHICH I SEE. WE HAVE ONE. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILOR SESSIONS OVER SECOND BY COUNCILOR KICKER OPEN THE VOTING, PLEASE. SEVEN AND OH, UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU. MOVE ON TO

[Item 5.A. & 5.B.]

OUR REGULAR ACTION ITEMS THIS EVENING. WE START WITH NUMBER OR RATHER NOT NUMBER ITEM A PECAN SQUARE. MIXED USE PLAYING THE DEVELOPMENT ZONING. ARE WE COMBINING A COUPLE OF THESE, OR IS IT? WE'RE GONNA TAKE THEM ONE AT A TIME SINCE WE'RE NOT TAKING ACTION, OR DO YOU WANT TO SEPARATE EXTRA FOR TABLING? WE'LL DISCUSS THEM TOGETHER. UM, WE'LL FOLLOW WHAT DISEASE SUGGESTS. WE'RE GONNA HEAR SOME UPDATES ON THIS TOPIC. AND THEN WE'RE GONNA TABLE FOR ANOTHER EVENING. AND I THINK OPEN BOTH BECAUSE BOTH A AND B PUBLIC HEARINGS AT THE SAME TIME. IS IT THE SAME TOPIC? ARE WE GOING TO HEAR FIRST OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING? WELL WELL AND NATHAN KIND OF DESCRIBE IT. ALRIGHT, SO ITEMS A AND B AND WILL HAVE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THESE TWO IN JUST A MINUTE. ALL RIGHT, SO THESE ARE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE CON SQUARE PLAN DEVELOPMENT SO LITTLE HISTORY ON PECAN SQUARE? WHENEVER IT WAS INITIALLY ZONED. IT WAS IN THREE SEPARATE TRACKS OF OWNERSHIP, SO THERE'S THREE DIFFERENT PLAN DEVELOPMENT. PLANE DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCES THAT SET THE ZONING FOR THE DEVELOPMENT. BUT THEY'RE ALL EXACTLY THE SAME. TWO OF THOSE INCLUDE FRONTAGE ON 407. SO THAT'S WHY THERE'S TWO ITEMS HERE, BUT THEY'RE INCLUDE EXACTLY THE SAME THINGS SO WITHIN. WITHIN THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT. THERE WAS, UM. VERY SPECIFIC LANDSCAPE, SETBACK REQUIREMENTS AND. UM SIDEWALK REQUIREMENTS ALONG CLEVELAND GIBBS AND FM 407 ON CLEVELAND GIBBS AND INCLUDED DETAIL OF WHAT IT SHOULD LOOK LIKE WHEN THEY'RE RESIDENTIAL LOTS BACK INTO CLEVELAND GIVES, BUT IT DIDN'T INCLUDE A SEPARATE ONE.

FOR THE POINT, THERE'S COMMERCIAL FRONTAGE. SO. THIS PROPOSAL INCLUDES ADDING ONE FOR THE CLEVELAND GIBBS COMMERCIAL FRONTAGE. SIMILARLY, THERE WASN'T ONE FOR COMMERCIAL FRONTAGE ON 407. AND THEY HAVE PROPOSED ONE IN HERE. BUT THE MAIN PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO ADDRESS NEW REALITY. SO TEXTILE HAS PLANS TO EXPAND 407. IT'S GOING TO TAKE MUCH MORE RIGHT AWAY THAN WAS ORIGINALLY EXPECTED, AND ALL OF THAT ADDITIONAL RIGHT AWAY IS GOING TO NEED TO COME FROM THE SOUTH SIDE. BEFORE 07 BECAUSE OPPORTUNITY HAS LARGE WATER LINE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE 407 RIGHT AWAY. AND TO MOVE THERE. THEY PROBABLY HAVE TO RAISE THE RATES EVEN MORE. SO, UM. THAT IS WHY THIS IS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT THERE HAVE BEEN SOME CONCERNS.

CONCERNS MENTIONED THAT PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING WHO FIRST REVIEWED THIS PROPOSAL

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AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL. BUT THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE PROXIMITY OF THE, UM SARAH DO USE PATHS SHARED USE. UH PATH THAT TEXT WILL CONSTRUCT AS PART OF THE 407 WIDENING PROJECT. UM SO STAFF IS WELL AS COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH TEXT DOT IN THE DESIGN ENGINEERS TO GO THROUGH SOME SOME ALTERNATIVES WHERE THAT'S SHARED . USE PATHS USE PATH COULD BE MOVED FURTHER FROM THE ROAD AND BE ABLE TO INCLUDE SOME LANDSCAPING AND TREES TO PROVIDE SOME SHADE OVER THAT PATH. UM THE APPLICANT ALSO WANTED TO ADDRESS SINCE THE ROAD WAS COMING CLOSER TO THEIR RESIDENTIAL LOTS. SOME CHANGES TO ADDRESS THAT INCLUDING SOLID FENCING INSTEAD OF OPEN FENCING AND ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING ALONG THAT FENCING. SO THAT'S WHY THIS PROPOSAL IS BEFORE YOU, BUT THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED THAT WE CONTINUED AS WE CONTINUE TO WORK WITH TEXT DOT TO UNDERSTAND. UH, WHAT THIS CAN ULTIMATELY LOOK LIKE AND THE LIKELY BE SOME CHANGES TO WHAT'S BEFORE YOU RIGHT NOW. BUT SINCE THIS IS A. AMENDMENT TO A PLANE DEVELOPMENT IS A ZONING CHANGE OF PUBLIC HEARING IS REQUIRED NOTICE HAS GONE OUT AND NOTICE THAT THERE WAS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR BOTH OF THESE ITEMS THAT TONIGHT'S MEETING. SO YOU'LL NEED TO AT LEAST OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND THEN YOU CAN CONTINUE THOSE TO THE OCTOBER 12TH MEETING.

COUNSELORS. ANY QUESTIONS FOR NATHAN BEFORE I HAVE THE MAYOR PRETEND GIVE SOME COMMENTS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, NATHAN SO BEFORE THE MAYOR OF TIME STARTS AND JUST WANT TO POINT OUT, SO I ASKED THE MAYOR PRETEND TO TAKE POINT ON THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT. WE HAVE A LOT OF HIGH PRIORITY PROJECTS THAT REQUIRE A LOT OF DUE DILIGENCE AND A LOT OF NEGOTIATIONS. AND SO IT'S BEST THAT WE HAVE SOMEBODY ON POINT TO TACKLE THOSE, AND SO I HAVE A COUPLE OF THEIR PRETEND AS A COUPLE AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. THIS IS ONE WHERE I ASKED HIM TO LEAD THIS IN AND GETS UNDERNEATH THE EXPECTATIONS. HE HAS A LOT OF PASSION FOR THE ORIGINAL EXPECTATIONS FOR PECAN SQUARE. AND SO I'VE ASKED HIM TO LEAD THIS AND TO TRY TO DEAL WITH THE REALITIES WE FACE ON THIS AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO BEST BALANCE THE REALITIES OF AN ENCROACHMENT BY TECH START COUPLED WITH THE FINANCING THAT WE'RE EXPECTING, AND TRYING NOT TO DELAY THESE PROJECTS FROM ROAD STANDPOINT, BUT ALSO TO KEEP IN MIND THE HISTORY OF WHAT WAS EXPECTED. AND SO I THINK HE'S GOT A GOOD PERSPECTIVE ON THIS. LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING WHAT YOU FIGURED OUT BECAUSE I HAVEN'T HEARD THE UPDATE YET, SO I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO YOU AND GIVE US EVERYTHING YOU'VE GOT SO FAR AND WHERE WE'RE GOING FROM HERE IN TERMS OF ADDITIONAL CONVERSATIONS. THANK YOU. I ASKED THE MAYOR TO PROVIDE THIS UPDATE BEFORE THE PUBLIC HEARINGS OF SOMEBODY WANTS TO SPEAK ON THESE TOPICS THAT YOU'RE FULLY INFORMED. UM WE'VE HAD. I'VE HAD TWO MEETINGS WITH TEXT AND HILLWOOD IN THE PAST TWO WEEKS, WE HAD OUR LAST ONE THIS MORNING WE MET WITH TIM NESBITT, WHO IS ONE OF THE DESIGN ENGINEERS ON A LOT OF TEXT PROJECTS, AND ONE OF THE BIGGEST FOCUSES IS HERE IS THE OPPORTUNITY. THE WATER LINE IS THE ISSUE THIS IS NOT BROUGHT BY HILL WOULD WILLINGLY IT WAS NOT UM. ANY NEFARIOUS ACTION. IT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO DO THE BEST THING AND WITH SOME OF THE CONCESSIONS ARE ALREADY TALKING TO WITH US THAT THEY'RE WILLING TO GIVE. I FULLY BELIEVE THEY'RE IN THE RIGHT PLACE ON THIS ONE. I HAD THERE REALLY KIND OF BENDING TO PRESSURE TO DO EVEN MORE THAN THEY MIGHT BE REQUIRED TO. SO I WANT TO THANK HILLWOOD FOR THAT FIRST UM WHAT WE'VE MET AND TALKED ABOUT ON THESE PLANS AND THE REALITY OF THIS RIGHT AWAY BEING EXPANDED SO FAR AND PUSHED SOLELY TO THE SOUTH. HOW CAN WE MINIMIZE THAT IMPACT AND STAFF THAT WE HAVE THE ORIGINAL DRAWING IN THE DECK BY CHANCE? I DON'T KNOW. MAYBE NOT. THE ORIGINAL DRAWING INCLUDED THE 75 FT. SORRY, GO BACK TO THE SLIDE.

WE HAD ORIGINALLY INCLUDED A FARM TRAIL SHADE TREES AND ABOUT A 75 FT BUFFER BETWEEN THE ROAD AND THE FENCE. WHEN Y'ALL DRIVE PAST PECAN SQUARE TODAY THAT FENCE IS NOT IN ITS ULTIMATE LOCATION. UM THAT FENCES TEMPORARILY THERE SO THE FENCE, YOU MIGHT HAVE NOTICED SOME OF THE LOTS OR LEVELED OUT AND KIND OF SLOPE BACK, AND IT'S GONNA BE FURTHER BACK THERE. SO WITH THAT WE'RE LOSING THIS VERY LARGE SETBACK THAT WAS ORIGINALLY INTENDED TO LOOK LIKE A HAY FIELD AND TO LOOK MORE RURAL LIKE OUR TOWN IS ACCUSTOMED TO SO ONE OF THE BIG PUSH BACKS THAT WE GOT FROM TEXTILE ORIGINALLY IS THE SIDEWALK HAS TO BE WITHIN A COUPLE FEET OF THE NEW HIGHWAY. AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS PRETTY RIDICULOUS. THROUGH THE SECOND MEETING TODAY

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WE FINALLY GOT CLARITY THAT WE DO HAVE SOME ROOM TO MOVE THAT THE PROPOSAL I PUT FORTH TO TEXT DOT AND WHO WOULD THIS MORNING? WAS TO PROVIDE A 10 FT. BUFFER BETWEEN CURB AND SIDEWALK 10 FT.

SHARED JUICE PATH. RELOCATE THE UTILITY LINES OF CO SERVED UPRIGHT TELEPHONE POLES TO THE NORTH SIDE OF THE ROAD, WHERE THEY ARE ALONG MOST OF THE REST OF THE STRETCH OF OUR FM 407.

WE'LL HAVE TO WORK WITH THE CO SERVE. THERE'S NO GUARANTEES ON THAT. WE'VE GOT TO DO A LITTLE WORK THERE STILL AND BASICALLY THIS WAY. WE PUSHED THE SIDEWALK AS FAR AWAY FROM ROSE POSSIBLE.

AND THAT ALSO ALLOWS US TO GET HILLWOOD TO BRING IN SHADE TREES . YOU CANNOT PLANT SHADE TREES WITHIN ANY PART OF THE TEXT DOT RIGHT AWAY. THEY HAVE TO BE SMALLER TREES, THINGS THAT CAN BE RUN OVER BY CARS EASILY AND NOT STOP A CAR DEAD IN ITS TRACKS. SO WITH THAT. THE ORIGINAL PURPOSE WAS TO BRING THE SHADED WALKWAY AND CREATE A NICE BUFFET. SO WE'RE ON THE PATH. THE TOTAL WIDTH WILL BE SMALLER, BUT WE'RE FINDING WAYS TO WORK THAT SIDEWALK FURTHER AND FURTHER AWAY AND TO GET THE ONE THING THAT RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT SHADED WALKWAYS THAT'S BEEN VERY CLEAR IN THE COMP PLANNED DISCUSSIONS FROM PUBLIC INPUT. THEY WANT TO DO A BETTER JOB WITH TREES. AND BECAUSE HILLWOOD CAN'T PLANT THE TREES TODAY IS THEIR PD WOULD REQUIRE THEY HAVE OFFERED SET UP AN ESCROW FUND FOR TREES SO THEY WILL DEPOSIT MONEY INTO THERE SO THAT THE TREES CAN BE PLANTED ONCE THE CONSTRUCTION IS FINISHED, BECAUSE ANYTHING THEY PLANT TODAY WILL BE BULLDOZED. BY TAX DONE SO WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS THE PLAN IS AN IDEAL. NO BUT THEY ARE GOING A LONG WAY TO ACCOMMODATE OUR DESIRES. AND WE ARE WELL ON OUR WAY TO GETTING A FINAL PLAN FOR NEXT MEETING. YOU PRETENDED YOU MENTION THE GREEN RIBBON OPPORTUNITIES IN THAT 10 FT BUFFER, UNDERSTAND THAT A LITTLE BIT BETTER THE PROGRAM SO, PLEASE, IT'S A TEXT OP PROGRAM. IT'S FOR BEAUTIFICATION . IT'S CALLED THE GREEN RIBBON PROGRAM. IT'S MUCH LIKE THOSE TREES THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN AFTER EVERYTHING'S DONE. WE HAD SOME STAFF ON A ON A CALL. I WAS AT ANOTHER MEETING, BUT WE CAN'T REALLY GET STARTED UNTIL THE PROJECT IS NEARING COMPLETION.

BUT WE'RE AWARE OF THAT, AND OUR TRANSPORTATION CONSULTANT IS HAS EXPERTS IN THAT FIELD. SO YOU CURB THAT 10 FT OF GRASS COULD BE SMALLER TREES AND BUSHES, AND IT'S KIND OF A VISUAL BREAK THE SIDEWALK, THE SHADE TREES AND THEN INTO THE DEVELOPMENT. EXACTLY AND ONE OF THE GOOD EXAMPLES THEY TOLD US TO LOOK AT. IF YOU GUYS ARE OUT DRIVING AROUND THERE'S NORTH OF FOR SEVEN ON 24 99, WHERE IT HEADS UP TO THE LAKE AND GOES OVER THE BRIDGE. THAT WOULD BE A GOOD EXAMPLE OF A GREEN RIBBON PROGRAM THERE. SO WE'RE MAKING GOOD PROGRESS. THANK YOU, MAYOR FOR ALONG ME TO ADDRESS THE TOWN AND COUNCIL WITH THOSE UPDATES. SO IN FUTURE ITERATIONS, THIS ARE WE GOING TO GET A DESIGN? THAT'S GOT EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. YES. AH! WHAT THE CURRENT STATUS IS TOMORROW OR THE NEXT DAY, HE'LL WOODS ENGINEERS WILL PROVIDE SECTIONS TO TEXT DOT TEXT STOP WILL OVERLAY THOSE SECTIONS ON THEIR PLANTS AND SEE HOW AND WHERE THEY CAN ACCOMMODATE US. AND GIVE US KIND OF A BLESSING. WE CAN'T GET ANYTHING. FROM TAX DOT YES, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT FAR ENOUGH IN THE SIGN PHASE, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO GET A POINT WHERE EVERYBODY TEXT DOT SAYS YES. THIS CAN HAPPEN. YES, WE CAN DO THIS. BECAUSE HILLWOOD IS PLANNING THEY ARE BUILDING. AND FRANKLY, IF WE DO NOTHING IF WE JUST SAY NO, YOU CAN'T CHANGE YOUR PD. THEY KEEP BUILDING TEXT DOT TAKES THE LAND AND WE DON'T REALLY GET ANY CHANGES, SO THEY WANTED DIRECTION TO START BUILDING. WE NEED A DIRECTION TO PLAN FOR. AND WE'RE IN A GOOD PLACE RIGHT NOW. I THINK WE TODAY WE MADE A LOT OF PROGRESS THIS MORNING. SO WHEN WE GET A FUTURE CROSS SECTION HERE WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL TO MAKE SURE THAT EACH COMPONENT OF THE TREES THE TYPE OF TREES WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO BE ARTICULATE WHO'S PROVIDING THOSE WHICH ONES ARE GREEN RIBBON? WHICH ONES ARE TOWN? WHICH ONES IF THERE ARE ANY AND WHICH ONES ARE, UM HILLWOOD. UTILITIES CAN'T PICTURE ALL THESE CHANGES AT ONCE? YES, IT'S REALLY HELPFUL.

IF WE CAN GET THE FULL PICTURE. THERE'S LAW MOVING PARTS IN HERE AND THAT IS A COMMITMENT FROM HILL WOULD PROVIDE US WITH AN UPDATED DRAWING LIKE THIS, THAT WE CAN KIND OF PAIR BEFORE AND AFTER NEGOTIATIONS, AND THERE WILL ALSO BE BECAUSE TAX THAT REQUIRES IT IN FEDERAL DOLLARS REQUIRED A SIDEWALK ON THE NORTH SIDE AS WELL. BUT THAT WILL BE LIMITED TO FIVE OR 6 FT. ONE SIDE YOU HAVE TO EVER SHARED USE PLAN, WHICH IS DESIGNED FOR BICYCLES AND WALKERS, BUT BICYCLES WOULD JUST DRIVE DOWN THE MIDDLE ANYWAYS. AND THEN WE HAVE THE SMALLER SIDEWALK ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE. SO WE'RE STILL MESSING AROUND WITH A LITTLE BIT OF THAT, BUT TRYING TO GET TO

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THE BIGGEST BUFFER SO THAT PEOPLE WHO USE THE SIDEWALKS CAN USE AS SAFELY AS POSSIBLE AS FAR AWAY FROM THE ROAD. AS POSSIBLE. WHERE HAVE YOU ENDED UP IN YOUR NEGOTIATIONS SO FAR ON THE CONCEPT OF A SOLID FENCE VERSUS AN OPEN FENCE IN THE BERM? WHERE WHERE IS YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS? UM I'M NOT A HUGE FAN OF SOLID FENCING. BUT DUE TO THE PROXIMITY IT'S PROBABLY IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF THOSE FUTURE RESIDENTS TO HAVE THAT FENCING. AH THE BERM WILL HELP HIDE THAT AND SCREENING THAT TO SOME DEGREE WITH THE ELEVATION CHANGES. YOU GOTTA SEE IT APPROACHING FROM DIFFERENT ANGLES. BUT MUCH LIKE THE HIGHLANDS COVERS UP A LITTLE BIT THERE, FENCING. I THINK WE'LL GET SOME OF THAT SAME EFFECT NOT AS MUCH. BUT THE OPEN STYLE FENCING LIKE WE HAVE IN PRAIRIE VIEW, IF YOU OTHER PLACES LIKE THAT AS MUCH AS I PREFER THAT I DON'T FEEL IT WORKS FOR US FUTURE RESIDENTS. ARE YOU? ARE YOU AT THIS POINT AND AGREEMENT WITH WHERE? HILL WITH HIS ASKING ? I DON'T FORGET THE DIAGRAM FOR A SECOND. BUT HOW CLOSE ARE YOU TO WHERE THEY'RE AT IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR. ACTUALLY IT'S THE OTHER WAY AROUND. THEY ARE DOING EVERYTHING I HAVE ASKED OF THEM. AND A LITTLE MORE WITH THE ESCROW FUND AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO I'M QUITE IMPRESSED WITH THE THEY'D RATHER NOT BE IN THE SITUATION THAT RATHER BUILD IT. HOW WE HAD IT DESIGNED AND FROM A COST STANDPOINT, IS THIS MORE COSTLY FOR THEM OR LESS COSTLY THAN WHAT THEY WERE ORIGINALLY GOING TO DO A HAVE TO DONATE MORE RIGHT AWAY OR SELL MORE ROAD AWAY RIGHT AWAY TO TEXT DOT HOWEVER, THEY SAID, DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT. IT'S A ZERO CONCERN TO THE TOWN. WE WILL DONATE WHATEVER EXTRA WE NEED TO I BELIEVE TREE WISE. IT'S GOING TO BE MORE THAN THE ORIGINAL CORRECT. YEAH, BECAUSE THERE. NO EXTRA EVERGREENS AND SOME OF THESE EXTRA TREES AND THERE WILL IN THE ORIGINAL PLAN THEY PRESENTED HERE THAT YOU'RE SEEING ON YOUR SCREEN. IT WAS APPROXIMATELY DOUBLE NUMBER OF TREES, BUT THERE WERE LESS CANOPY TREES, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW , OAKS MAPLES, BIG LARGE TREES.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET THAT BALANCE STEPHEN A LITTLE BIT MORE TO BRING BACK SOME OF THOSE SHADE TREES. WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THE IRRIGATION AND THE WATER ON ALL THESE UM IT REPLANT IN THERE RIGHT AWAY WILL NEED TO TAKE CARE OF IT. THEY THEY WERE CLEAR ON THAT THEY CALL THEM LOCALS. THAT'S US. SO THAT'S PART OF THE GREEN RIBBON PROJECT IN ORDER TO GET THAT FUNDING TO MAKE ALL THAT PLANTING, YOU GUARANTEE THAT YOU'LL MAINTAIN THEM SO THEY'LL BEAT THAT THEY'LL NEED TO BE SOME IRRIGATION ON OUR PART, SO THERE WILL BE SOME CONTINUING COSTS ON THAT PLUS SIDE, THOUGH TECH STOP MAINTAINS THE SIDEWALKS IN THE SHARED USE PATH AND THE SIDEWALK. AND SO OF THE TREES THAT ARE PLANTED SORT OF ON THE SOUTH SIDE HERE. THE EVERGREENS I PRESUME ARE SITTING ON HILLWOOD PROPERTY, OKAY? SO IT'S BOTH RESIDENT AND HILLWOOD MAINTAINING ONE SIDE AND THE OTHER. WE WEREN'T REALLY FOCUSED ON THAT ASPECT YET, BUT TYPICALLY H O A WOULD MANAGE THOSE TREES TO SOME DEGREE EVERGREENS IN THE SHADE TREE.

WE'RE GOING TO PUT THE SHADE TREES IN IN THEIR PROPERTY OUTSIDE THE RIGHT OF WAY. THE THOSE LIGHT GREEN TREES, AND THAT'S STILL THE CONCEPT THAT THEY COME BACK WITH. THAT WILL BE IN THE BACKYARDS OF THOSE RESIDENTS, SO I WOULD ASSUME THEY WOULD TAKE CARE OF THAT.

BUT EVERYTHING KIND OF BETWEEN THE RIGHT AWAY AND THE FENCE LINE WOULD BE THE H O S RESPONSIBILITY. SO THE TOWN WOULD ONLY BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MEDIAN TREES OR IF WE PUT HIM IN THE MEDIUM OR THIS BUFFER THE SPACE BETWEEN THE EDGE OF CURB AND THE SHARED USE PATH THAT 10 FT. IF WE DECIDE TO DO THAT, WE'LL PRESENT YOU WITH WHAT WE'RE GETTING FROM THE GREEN RIBBON. WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THAT, AND THEN ANY KIND OF ONGOING COSTS. THAT'S THE GIVE AND TAKE WITH TECH START YEAH, I UNDERSTAND. I'M JUST TRYING TO THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS I HAVE.

WHEN I SEE THE NEXT DESIGN. I'M GOING TO BE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHO'S PAYING FOR EACH PIECE INITIALLY AND IN THE LONG TERM JUST SO I CAN WRAP MY HEAD AROUND THIS, BUT VERY FAIR QUESTIONS, MA'AM. OKAY THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM FOR TAKING THE LEAD ON THIS COUNCIL MEMBERS . UM IT'S OPEN FOR YOU TO DISCUSS AS WELL. YEAH, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU DIDN'T PRETEND FOR TAKING THE LEAD. I'VE RECEIVED A LOT OF EMAILS FROM CONCERNED CITIZENS AND SO THANK YOU FOR EMAILING US AND LETTING US KNOW WHERE YOU STAND ON IT. I APPRECIATE IT. THAT WE'RE WORKING HARD TO, UM DO WHAT'S RIGHT. I DON'T BELIEVE I'VE EVER GOTTEN AS MANY EMAILS AS I HAVE OVER THIS SUBJECT, AND EVERY ONE OF THEM WAS AGAINST IT. AND WHY DIDN'T WE KNOW WAS THAT WATERLINE THERE TO BEGIN WITH? WHY DIDN'T WE KNOW THAT THIS WAS GOING TO HAPPEN? UM IT IS POSSIBLE TO MOVE THAT WATER LINE AND I'M TALKING TO, UH, MR POLLSTER WITH INNOVATION,

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TRANSPORTATION SYSTEMS OR SOLUTIONS. IT TAKES 2 TO 5 YEARS TO MOVE THAT WATER LINE AND POSSIBLY $25 MILLION. SO IT WHEN YOU'RE FIRST STARTING THESE THINGS, EVERYTHING'S POSSIBLE, RIGHT? BUT AS YOU DRILL DOWN THERE WAS THERE'S ALREADY BEEN A DELAY ON 44 07. BUT BECAUSE OF THE UH HUH? THE DIFFERENCES OF OPINION BETWEEN THE CITY OF JUSTIN AND TOWN OF NORTH LAKE THERE HAS BEEN AN INTEREST IN GETTING THIS PROJECT DONE AS FAST AS POSSIBLE. SO YES, THE WATER LINES THERE. THE WATER LINE CAN BE MOVED. TEXT DOT COULD MOVE IT, BUT THE GOAL IS TO GET IT DONE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE TO DO THAT. YOU DON'T MOVE IT SO DOES THAT? YES THE WATERLINES ARE WE ALWAYS BEEN THERE, BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THERE. BUT IF IT STAYS THERE, EVERYTHING HAPPENS QUICKER AND CHEAPER. AND FROM MY IMPRESSIONS , MR SESSION OR DOCTOR SESSIONS IS THAT TEXT DOT REALLY DOESN'T WANT TO MESS WITH THE TRINITY RIGHT NOW. IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS LIKE WE DEALT WITH ON POWER LINES AND THINGS LIKE THAT WITH THE CORPSE. THEY JUST DON'T REALLY WANT TO MESS WITH. THAT ASPECT IS MY UNDERSTANDING WILL DO IT. IT'S JUST YOU KNOW HOW ITS FEES IT'S FEASIBLE AND IT WAS CONSIDERED, BUT THE GOAL OF THE REGION IS TO GET THIS DONE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. THAT TIMELINE SCENES REALLY EXCESSIVE IS THAT BECAUSE IT RESETS THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW. UM. I DON'T BELIEVE SO. I THINK IT'S BECAUSE THEY OWN THE EASEMENT.

YOU'D HAVE TO PURCHASE A NEW EASEMENT FOR THEM. YOU'D HAVE TO MOVE THEIR LINE AND YOU'D HAVE TO DISPLACE EVERYBODY THAT'S NORTH OF THERE LYING. IT'S JUST A LOT OF PROPERTY TRANSACTIONS.

A LOT OF UM ACCORDING AGAIN TO MR POLLSTER, YOU KNOW, UM, BATTLING BACK AND FORTH, AND HERE'S MY LINE HERE. HERE'S WHAT YOU NEED TO DO TO MOVE THE LINE SO THAT'S WHY IT WAS A 2 TO 5 YEAR DELAY. HE GAVE US I WAS ONE OF THESE DECIDING VOTES. TO ALLOW HILL WOOD TO BUILD ACCOUNT SQUARE. AND THERE WERE TWO REASONS THAT I FINALLY DECIDED I'D VOTE FOR ONE WAS THE NEW SCHOOL AND ONE WAS WE WERE GOING TO MAINTAIN THE RURAL ATMOSPHERE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE ROAD.

AND NOW ARE WE STILL MAINTAINING THAT RURAL ATMOSPHERE? I THINK THAT'S A MATTER OF OPINION. AND I WOULD I WOULD SAY IT'S NOT. WHAT WE'RE PRESENTED WITH. IT IS IT IS FUNDAMENTALLY DIFFERENT.

WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE THE BEST OF A BAD SITUATION. AT THIS POINT. YOU KNOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT MAINTAINING THAT I'D RATHER STAY. BUT IN NEGOTIATIONS WITH TEXT DOT AND HILLWOOD THE FEASIBILITY OF THAT IS DISAPPEARING. IN MY OPINION, SO NOW IT'S TIME TO MAKE LEMONADE OUT LEMONS. DR SESSIONS. WHAT WHAT COMPONENTS ARE MOST CONCERNING TO US AS A LOT OF FOLKS WHO I TALKED TO I ASKED HIM ABOUT THE FENCE ABOUT THE TREES ABOUT THE BERM ABOUT THE SIDEWALK LOCATION ASKED THEM AWAY ON EACH ONE. WHAT? WHAT PART OF THIS SO YOU CAN PROVIDE SOME FEEDBACK. IT'S THE MOST CONCERNING THE SPACE THAT WE REDUCED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE ROAD. THERE'S GONNA TAKE AWAY FROM THE RURAL LOOK. A BIT MORE THAN I WANT TO. I REALIZED WE MAY BE BOXED IN AND WE HAVE TO CHOOSE. THIS IS THE BEST OF SOME BAD CHOICES. BUT THAT'S WHAT BOTHERS ME THE MOST. YES, SPACE. THE ORIGINAL PLAN AND. I WAS A HOLDOUT ON PECAN SQUARE UNTIL BILL WOULD COMMITTED TO DRASTICALLY INCREASED THE NUMBER OF HALF ACRE LOTS ON 407. WHAT'S THIS GOING TO DO TO THOSE HALF ACRE LOT, SO THEY'RE GOING TO BE REDUCED BY ANY FAIR SHARE OF THEM WERE ALREADY PLANTED AND THEY ARE NOT CHANGING. MATTER OF FACT WE PLANTED IN THE P AND Z JUST PLOTTED THE LAST REMAINING HALF ACRE LOTS. JUST JUST WEST OF THE CORNER OF CLEVELAND, GIBBS AND 407. ON THE OTHER ISSUE IS THE WALKWAY. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE HERE HAS WALKED ALONG. EXISTING FOUR OR SEVEN IT IS NOISY AS HELL. REALLY BAD. PART OF THIS IS BECAUSE OF THE ROAD SURFACE, THE OTHER PART OF BECAUSE OF ALL THE TRUCKS. BUT YOU CAN'T EVEN HEAR YOURSELF.

THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME ALONG 407. SO I DON'T KNOW. HAVING HOMES FOR BUTTING UP AGAINST THERE. I DON'T THINK IT'S SIX OR 8 FT FENCE IS GOING TO DO MUCH TO FOR NOISE ABATEMENT. THEN AGAIN, YOU KNOW I'M NOT TRYING TO SELL THE HOME. THEY'RE EITHER HILLWOOD IS BUT YOU HAVE NO CHOICE. YOU HAVE NO CHOICE. WE HAVE A SITUATION, I GUESS. MIKE. WHAT'S GOVERNMENT FENCES. WHAT? I KEPT ASKING EVERYBODY BECAUSE THE HIGHLANDS WE'VE GOT OPEN FENCES. BEHIND THE BURN, AND

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THEY'RE SHIELDED. RESPONSIBLY I THINK IT'S A IT'S A GREAT LOOK. THEY GOT THE BERMS. THEY'RE KIND OF ROLLING HILLS. THESE AREN'T QUITE AS FANCY AS THOSE PROBABLY NOT QUITE AS HIGH. BUT THE EFFECT WORKS IN A FAIRLY NARROW CORRIDOR TO GET SHIELDING, WHICH IS WHAT THE ISSUE IS. IS IT DEFENSE OR THE BERM THAT BOTHERS YOU. MANY ROWS OF TREES OUT OF THIS IS WE WERE IN THE ORIGINAL.

MAYOR IF I CAN, WITH GOING BACK TO MAYOR PRO TEM AND APPRECIATE YOU I'VE LEARNED A LOT ON THIS ISSUE RIGHT NOW. BUT UM MY CONCERN IS THE SAFETY OF THOSE WALKING DOWN THAT PEDESTRIAN SIDEWALK THAT CLOSE TO THAT THAT ROAD WAS THAT A AND YOU MENTIONED TEXT DOT SAID THE WROTE THIS SIMULCASTING B. SO CLOSE TO THAT ROAD. WAS THERE A REASON GIVEN WHY THAT HAS TO BE THERE? THERE'S SINCE THIS ROAD USES FEDERAL DOLLARS TO PARTIALLY FUNDED. THERE IS A REQUIREMENT THAT WALKWAYS MUST BE ON NORTH AND SOUTH SIDER ROADS AND THEY SHOULD BE ACCESSIBLE FULLY WITHIN THE RIGHT AWAY, AND THEY SHOULD. TYPICALLY THE TYPICAL TEXT DOT SECTION IS 3 TO 4. FT FROM THE CURB IS THE BEGINNING OF SIDEWALK. WITH WHAT WE HAVE TO WORK WITH. AND THE UTILITY EASEMENTS THAT WE REALLY HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT ON SOUTH SIDE HERE AND HOW THEY ALL STACK UP AND ADD UP. WE FIGURED THIS MORNING WE CAN PUSH THAT SIDEWALK AND THERE ARE FIVE OR 6 FT BASICALLY DOUBLE OR SLIGHTLY MORE THAN GAP. AND GIVE US A PLACE FOR A GREEN RIBBON PROJECT. GIVE US PLACE FOR HIS EXTRA TREES. MAYBE YEAH. JUST DRESS ALL THAT UP AND SPREAD THAT OUT BECAUSE THAT WAS THE NUMBER ONE CONCERN. I HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR IS A SIX LANE ROAD. NOW, MIND YOU TEXT THAT WILL PROBABLY WHEN THEY BUILD THIS CHANGE IT TO 45 WITH OR WITHOUT OUR GRACE AND PERMISSION . LIKE LAST TIME THEY ASKED US SO THAT SHOULD SLOW DOWN TRAFFIC A LITTLE BIT. HOWEVER THE PRIMARY CONCERN WAS NOBODY SHOULD BE WALKING OR BIKING WITHIN 3 FT OF THAT CURB, SO LET'S PUSH THAT AS FAR AS WE CAN PROVIDE A PLACE FOR SOME MORE TREES. AND IF WE KEEP THAT THE 10 FT PATH AND HE GIVES A LITTLE ADDITIONAL DEGREE OF SAFETY.

WHAT ABOUT DRIVING AT NIGHT LIGHTING? ALONG THAT SIDEWALK. THE CAR IS BEING THAT CLOSE TO THE WALKWAYS. THERE HAS BEEN TALK ABOUT HOW WE'RE GONNA I'M JUST THINKING SAFETY HERE FOR RESIDENTS THAT THAT WALK IT HAS NOT EVEN WE'RE NOT THAT FAR ALONG YET, AND THERE WAS NO LIGHTING PER PREPARED IN THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL. GRANTED, THIS IS MUCH DIFFERENT. I'M. NO, I'M NOT PERSONALLY. A HUGE FAN STREETLIGHTS. I LIKE THE DARKNESS, STREETLIGHTS, BULLARD'S OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT. BUT YEAH, JUST THAT WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN THAT POINT YET, BUT IT'S A IT'S A VERY VALID CONCERN. COUPLE OF THINGS TO ADD TO THAT. I MEAN, THE OUTSIDE LANE USED TO BE 14 FT. JUST TO HAVE BICYCLES ON IT. AND KIND OF YOU WERE ALLUDING TO THAT EARLIER. THEY'RE PUSHING THE BICYCLES ONTO THE SHARED YOUTH PET SHARED USE PATH, ALTHOUGH THEY PROBABLY WON'T USE IT. UM SO THAT'S THAT'S ONE REASON IT'S BECAUSE THEY NEEDED IN THE RIGHT OF WAY AS WELL. UM AND I HAD SECOND POINT IN AN ESCAPED ME, BUT I'LL COME BACK TO IT. AND A MINUTE THERE WAS ONE OTHER THING BROUGHT UP WILL PROBABLY RUN OUT OF PHYSICAL SPACE TO DO IT. WE COULD PUSH A SHARED USE PATHS OR JUST A PATH OUTSIDE OF THE RIGHT AWAY. BUT THEN THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO BUILD AND MAINTAIN THAT WELL, NOT NECESSARILY BUILD BUT MAINTAINED AND ONE I DID THINK OF IT, SO THIS WILL BE A CURB AND GUTTER SO THE DRAINAGE WILL ACTUALLY GO INTO THE ROAD. RIGHT NOW. IT'S A BAR DITCH AND THE ROAD IS HIGHER, SO THIS ROAD WILL BE BROUGHT DOWN WHAT THEY SAY MAYBE 3 TO 5 FT. AND SO THE AND THEN THEY'LL HAVE A CURB, WHICH IS NOT GOING TO BLOCK EVERY CAR, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO FEEL LIKE IT DOES NOW WITH THE ROAD IS THE HIGHEST POINT, AND EVERYTHING KIND OF GOES DOWN FROM THERE, IT'LL BE REVERSED. THAT DOESN'T ADD MUCH TO SAFETY, BUT IT DOES SOME TO KEEP PEOPLE WITHIN THE CURB AND THE SIDEWALKS WILL BE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER. OKAY LOT OF LOT OF CHANGES HERE, BUT WE'RE GOING TO NEED SOME NEW EXHIBITS TO MODEL THIS OUT, AND WE DEFINITELY NEED IT BEFORE AND AFTER. BECAUSE IT'S TOO HARD TO SEE THE DIFFERENCES AND GET ALL THE FINE TUNING PIECES OUT. BUT IF WE COULD GET A BEFORE PRESENTATION OF WHO DOES WHAT AND WHERE. AND WHEN. A NEW DESIGN AND THE BEFORE AND AFTER, AND I KNOW THAT CREATES A LOT OF OPTIONS HERE. BUT WE NEED AT LEAST THE WORST CASE SCENARIO ONE HERE THAT WILL BE THE PROPOSED 1 60 RIGHT AWAY. VERSUS WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW. SO THIS

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138 FT RIGHT AWAY IS ONLY FOR THAT CLEVELAND GIVES TO ARGO SECTION BREAK OUT THE COMMERCIAL BREAK OUT SO THAT ONE REALLY HAS NO NO. PLAY AND WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING. OKAY. UNDERSTOOD.

THANK YOU. OKAY? ANYTHING FURTHER. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE, UH PUBLIC HEARING TO HOLD 6. 45 PM , WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ACTION. ITEM A AND B. AT THE SAME TIME, WE'LL HEAR THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN WE'LL SEEK TO CONTINUE THOSE TO A FUTURE DATE. AT THIS TIME WE'LL OPEN THE HEARING AT 6 45. PM. ANYONE. ALL RIGHT. YES. PLEASE. MARINA HARD. UM AND I LIVE IN NORTH LIKE FIRST OF ALL. I'D LIKE TO RESPECTFULLY ASK WHY IS THIS ON THE AGENDA? IF Y'ALL ARE STILL NEGOTIATING AS OF THIS MORNING? I MEAN, UNTIL YOU GET THIS DOWN, WHY WHY EVEN SUGGEST THAT WE MAKE A MOVE ON THIS? IF IT'S NOT EVEN FINISHED. I MEAN SCHEMATICS AREN'T EVEN DONE ON THIS SECTION OF THE ROAD RIGHT NOW. BUT I WILL TELL YOU THIS HILLWOOD CAME TO TOWN IN 2016 PRESENTING THIS TO THE TOWN OF NORTH LAKE. THEY KNEW THAT THE ULTIMATE BUILD OUT OF FM 407 WILL BE SIX LANE DIVIDED. TEXT DOT TYPICALLY ACROSS THE BOARD TAKES RIGHT OF WAY FOR AN EVENTUAL ROAD, EVEN IF THEY WERE GOING TO BUILD A FOUR LANE DIVIDED OR FOUR LANE, UNDIVIDED, THEY WOULD TAKE THE RIGHT OF WAY FOR SIX LANE BECAUSE THAT IS THE ULTIMATE BUILD OUT OF FM 47 AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED. SO FIRST OF ALL, I DON'T THINK THIS SHOULD EVEN BE ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE IT HASN'T EVEN BEEN FIGURED OUT YET. Y'ALL HAVEN'T COME TO ANY AGREEMENT ON ANYTHING. AND HE'LL WOULD PROBABLY KNEW THIS THAT IT WAS THE ULTIMATE BILL THAT WAS SIX LANE DIVIDED, SO THEY SHOULD HAVE DONE THEIR DEVELOPMENT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THAT RIGHT OF WAY. THE WATER LINE WAS THERE. AND THEY SHOULD RUN THIS. SO WHAT THEY OUGHT TO DO NOW IS THEY OUGHT TO BACK UP THOSE LOTS, THE 75 FT THAT THEY PROMISED US. AND DELIVER ON WHAT THEY PROMISED THEY ALREADY YOU KNOW, SUGGESTED A REBUILD OF THE ORIGINAL BARN, THE ORIGINAL KENTUCKY STYLE BARN. THEY DIDN'T DO THAT. UNDERSTAND THAT THEY BROUGHT THAT TO COUNCIL. WE KNOW WHY THEY DID THAT. BUT NOW THEY WERE DIGGING ON THIS AS WELL. I MEAN, DO THEY EVER FOLLOW THROUGH WITH WHAT THEY SAY THEY'RE GOING TO DO? THIS WAS ONE OF THE KEY COMPONENTS OF THIS DEVELOPMENT WAS THE 75 FT BUFFER. NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT LESS THAN 22 FT, SO A 53 FT LOSS ON THE BUFFER. SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ZONING CHANGE ASPECT OF THIS IS UNLESS IT'S FOR HIGHER DENSITIES. BUT IF YOU COULD POSSIBLY EXPLAIN THE ZONING CHANGED ABOUT THIS, AND, UH LET'S SEE. THERE WERE A COUPLE OTHER THINGS. I THINK THE GREEN RIBBON PROGRAM IS A GREAT IDEA, BUT THE 75 FT BUFFER WOULD BE EVEN BETTER. SO I THINK THAT HILLWOOD NEEDS TO COME TO THE TABLE AND DELIVER ON WHAT THEY PROMISED. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK TONIGHT? 6 48 PM WE WILL CONTINUE. THE PUBLIC HEARING. DO WE NEED TO VOTE ON THAT? IF YOU WANT, BUT YOU ALL RIGHT. WE'LL CONTINUE. WE'LL CONTINUE TO THE NEXT MEETING. NOW DO WE NEED THE TABLE ITEMS A AND B TO A FUTURE DATE. YOU CAN'T TAKE IT TO A DATE. RING TO THAT DATE. ALL RIGHT, SO I'LL TAKE A MOTION. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE A AND B UNTIL THE OCTOBER 12TH MEETING. IS THERE A SECOND? ALRIGHT GOT A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN FOWLER. TABLE UNTIL FUTURE MEETING. CAN WE GO DOWN THIS OR DO YOU WANT US TO DO IT? YOU JUST WANT US TO VERBAL. IT.

OKAY? ALRIGHT TABLE UNTIL NEXT MEETING. YOU'RE WELCOME TO GO AHEAD. MS HARDMAN ON THE ZONING, THE I BELIEVE WHY WE HAVE TO CALL IT. ZONING IS BECAUSE IT'S A CHANGE OF PLAN DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. AND WITH THAT THE CHANGES SPECIFIC TO THE SETBACKS AND LANDSCAPING. THERE'S NO MORE HOMES. THERE'S NO MORE LOTS. THERE'S NOTHING CHANGING ANYTHING INSIDE. IT'S LIMITED TO THE OUTSIDE OF THE PURVIEW, AND I ALSO FEEL THE SAME WAY AS YOU IN MANY WAYS. IN THE NEGOTIATIONS WITH VERY DIFFICULT FOR ME FEEL WITH THOSE SAME FEELINGS, SO I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS AND THEY'RE TAKING THE HEART. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, ITEM C. ACCORDING TO TOWN IN NORTH

[5.C. Consider an Ordinance of the Town of Northlake, Texas, to amend the Canyon Falls Mixed-Use Planned Development (MPD) Zoning, Ordinance No. 15-0326, to revise the boundaries of the zoning district, the development plan and certain development standards for that certain 58.094-acre tract of land located west of Cleveland-Gibbs Road and I H 35W and approximately 700 feet north of Westbridge Drive. NASH Canyon Falls LLC is the owner. Centurion American is the applicant/developer. McAdams is the planner. Case # PD-23-002 (Part 1 of 2)]

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LAKE TO AMEND THE CANYON FALLS MIXED USE PLAN DEVELOPMENT ZONING MORE THAN SUMMER 15TH LAST YEAR 3 TO 6 ON A CERTAIN TRACK NORTHWEST OF KENYAN FALLS ALONG CLEVELAND GIBBS ROAD, 9 35 W. 700 FT NORTH OF WESTBRIDGE DRIVE NATIONALS. THE OWNERS ENSURING AMERICAN IS THE DEVELOPER. MCADAMS IS THE PLANNER. ALRIGHT. HERE YOU ARE GOOD. UH, GIVE A SHORT INTRO ON THIS. THIS IS THE PROPERTY. IT'S A PORTION OF THE KENYAN FALLS PLAN DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE PLAN DEVELOPMENT IS ZONING DESIGNATION. FOR THE SITE, SO THAT'S ANY CHANGES WITHIN ANY OF THAT ANY ASPECTS TO REQUIRE AN AMENDMENT AND ARE TREATED AS A ZONING CHANGE. SO WHAT'S PROPOSED TO CHANGE HERE IS THAT THE CURRENT ZONING CALLS FOR THIS PARTICULAR SITE. UH HAS A DEVELOPMENT PLAN WITHIN THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT? MOST OF KENYAN FALLS IS DIFFERENT DENSITIES OF SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL BUT ON THE THIS PARTICULAR SITE IS DESIGNATED FOR MIXED USE AND MIXED USE RESIDENTIAL THOSE AREAS ALLOW FOR A MIX OF COMMERCIAL USES. ALSO ALLOWED FOR UP TO 300 RESIDENTIAL UNITS , BUT THOSE HAVE BEEN MAXED OUT WITH THE LIBANO. KENYAN FALLS APARTMENTS THAT ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION ON FM 11 71 SO THERE ARE NO RESIDENTIAL UNITS AVAILABLE TO GO ON THE SITE NOW, SO IT ALL JUST BE COMMERCIAL USES. THE THIS AMENDMENT PROPOSES TO, UM PROVIDE. FOR ABOUT 100 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WITH THE SAME STANDARD AS THE ADJACENT KENYAN FALLS, HOMES. 50 FT LOT WITH. ALSO PROVIDE FOR JUST OVER SEVEN ACRES OF COMMERCIAL USE. UH, ALL ON THE. ON THE WEST SIDE OF CLEVELAND GIBBS, WHICH IS TO BE REALIGNED AND PARALLEL 35 W. AND THEN ALSO TO PROVIDE FOR UP TO 120 TOWN HOMES AS A BUFFER BETWEEN THOSE SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOMES AND MAJOR THOROUGHFARE, INTERSECTION AND COMMERCIAL AREAS. SO P AND Z CONSIDERED, UH THIS PLAN DEVELOPMENT AMENDMENT AT THEIR MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 19TH AND AFTER, UH A LOT OF DISCUSSION. THEY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL WITH SOME CONDITIONS. THESE INCLUDED THAT, UH A MASONRY SCREENING WALL MATCH EXISTING HEIGHT AND DESIGN OF THE ADJACENT KENYAN FALLS SCREENING WALL. THAT THERE BE A MINIMUM 10 FT. CONSTRUCTION IS MINT AND A 5 FT MAINTENANCE EASEMENT TO REPLACE EXISTING FENCING ON ADJACENT PROPERTY WITH THE MASONRY SCREENING WALL.

THAT SHADE TREES ARE PROVIDED ALONG THE EAST WEST THOROUGHFARE , WHICH IS A FUTURE FUTURE MULTI LANE ALIGNMENT. AND THEN TO ALSO STRIKE REQUEST TO WAIVE MEDIAN SPACING REQUIREMENTS FROM THE ENGINEERING DESIGN MANUAL. UM SO THESE CONDITIONS HAVE BEEN WRITTEN INTO THE ORDINANCE THAT IS IN YOUR PACKET. AND I WILL TURN IT OVER TO, UH TO THE APPLICANT WHO HAS A PRESENTATION WILL GO INTO THE DETAILS OF THEIR REQUEST. GOOD EVENING. EXCITING TO BE HERE. THANK YOU FOR HAVING US MAYOR AND OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS RANDY RIVERA. I'M A LAND PLANNER WITH MCADAMS WERE AT 201 COUNTRY VIEW DRIVE IN ROANOKE, TEXAS. UM, AGAIN. THANK YOU FOR HAVING US THE DEVELOPERS AND TURN AMERICAN IS ALSO HERE TONIGHT, UM, TO HELP ANSWER QUESTIONS, AND THEN THE MCADAMS TEAM OF OTHER PLANNERS AND OUR PROJECT ENGINEER IS ALSO HERE. SO WE BROUGHT EVERYBODY IN HOPES THAT WE CAN PROVIDE THE ANSWERS THAT ARE NEEDED FOR TONIGHT. SO NATHAN DID A GOOD JOB TALKING ABOUT WHERE THE SIZE LOCATED AND WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING, SO I AM GOING TO GO THROUGH SOME OF THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL. AND I WILL TRY TO BE AS QUICK AS I CAN SO WE CAN GET TO SOME QUESTIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AGAIN. 58 ACRES IS THE TOTAL REMAINDER OF THIS PD OUT TOWARDS 35 W AND HERE IS THE CURRENT AERIAL WITH VIEWS FROM CLEVELAND GIVES IT WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. UM THERE HAVE BEEN SOME GREAT CHANGES THROUGHOUT THE YEARS THAT TOOK HAS CHANGED QUITE A BIT WITH SOME FILL DIRT BEING BROUGHT ON THE SITE, AND WE'RE AWARE OF THAT. AND SO WHEN WE JUST WHEN WE DO THE FINAL GRADING DESIGN WILL FLY THE SITE WITH ARE DRAWN TO GET ACCURATE TOPO AND THAT'LL INFORM THE GRADING, BUT WE DO HAVE A PRELIMINARY GRADING APPROACH THAT I WILL TALK ABOUT TONIGHT. SO YOU ARE ADJACENT TO THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD OF

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CANYON FALLS RIGHT THERE. THE LOWER RIGHT PICK UP OF THE IMAGE. I'M LOOKING WHEN WE FIRST STARTED LOOKING AT THE EXISTING COMPLAIN AND THEN WE TOOK A PEEK AT SOME OF THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE IN THE DRAFT COM PLAN. UM AND WANTED TO BE INTENTIONAL OF HOW WE'RE GOING TO DESIGN THIS. UM, AND AS WE TRANSITION FROM THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD TO 35 W TO BE THOUGHTFUL AND HOW WE PLAN THE LAND USE AND TRANSITION OF LAND USES, UM AND TO CREATE A DIVERSE, HIGH QUALITY HOUSING OPTION HERE FOR THE TOWN OF NORTH LAKE. TO RETAIN COMMERCIAL FUTURE COMMERCIAL TAX. UH GENERATING LAND, UM, AT SOME POINT WHEN THE FURNITURE ROADS COMES IN FOR LOCAL GOODS AND SERVICES. UM AND THEN, UH, A LOT OF LOAD AND MODERATE DENSITY RESIDENTIAL LAND USES MIXED IN WITH THE COMMERCIAL, UM AND ATTACHED AND DETACHED HOMES. AND SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE PRINCIPLES THAT WE WERE TRYING TO ADHERE TO THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS. SO THIS IS A THIS IS THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT'S IN THE PD THERE ON THE LOWER LEFT THAT'S CURRENTLY IN THE PD TODAY ARE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS ON THE LOWER RIGHT. AND SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT REALLY ON THIS LEFT PICTURE IS THE TWO PINK SHAPES. THIS IS 58 ACRES. AND THE PICTURE ON THE RIGHT IS THAT SAME 58 ACRES THAT'S OUTLINED IN THE WHITE DASH. AND YOU CAN SEE THIS BROWN THAT EXISTS TODAY OF THE HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. WE'RE PULLING THAT UP. INTO THE 58 ACRES FOR ABOUT 25 ACRES.

REDUCING THE PINK OF MIXED USE RESIDENTIAL DOWN TO 18.5 ACRES AND THEN THE MIXED USE. FOR FUTURE COMMERCIAL IS 14. IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT SHAPE BECAUSE THERE'S SOME EXCESS RIGHT AWAY THERE FOR THE CLEVELAND GIBBS BRIDGE. UM AND SO WE INCLUDED THAT IN THE ZONING IN THE EVENT IN THE FUTURE THAT RIGHT AWAY CAN BE OBTAINED BY THE DEVELOPER FOR UM , FUTURE DEVELOPMENT IN THE BRIDGE DOES GO AWAY AT SOME POINT. SO LOOKING AT THE DETAILED CONCEPT PLAN THAT'S ALSO GOING TO BE IN THE PACKET AND COULD BE ADDED TO THE PD.

DEPENDING ON HOW THE VOTE GOES TONIGHT, BUT THIS IS THE LAYOUT THAT WE HAVE SHARED, UM, WHERE THE TOWN AND WITH THE RESIDENTS AND, UM, SO AGAIN. THESE ARE THE EXISTING HOMES OF CANYON FALLS TODAY. UM THE SINGLE FAMILY MATCHES THE LOT STANDARDS OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IN CANYON FALLS. SO THE LOTS ARE 50 BY 1 20. THERE'S ABOUT 100 THAT ARE THIS TAN COLOR. ONE THING YOU MIGHT KNOW. NOTICE IS WE HAVE PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY. PHASE TWO REPRESENTS THIS 300 FT RADIUS AROUND. THERE'S THREE EXISTING GAS WALLS ON THAT ON THE PROPERTY TODAY, UM, IN THE FUTURE. IF THEY ARE TO BE PLUGGED, WE WOULD EXTEND INTO PHASE TWO. AND SO WE WANTED TO SHOW THAT AS A SEPARATE PHASE AS THIS IS ABLE TO BE DEVELOPED OVER TIME. SO AGAIN, 100 LOTS THERE AND THEN, AS WE TRANSITION TO THE NORTH 118 TOWN HOMES, THESE ARE 25 BY 90 AGAIN. THIS IS A BUILDING UP IN DENSITY AS WE GET CLOSER TO THE HIGHWAY INSTEAD OF CREATING SORT OF AN ABRUPT CHANGE FROM SINGLE FAMILY 50 FT LOTS TO COMMERCIAL OFFICE WE WANTED TO PROVIDE AND MORE GRADUAL TRANSITION. THEY'RE EXTENDING CLEVELAND GIBBS, UM, FOR THE HALF OF THE RIGHT AWAY THAT WE WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALONG THIS PORTION. AND THEN ONCE IT GETS OFF OF THAT COMMON PROPERTY LINE THERE, WE WOULD HAVE TO DEDICATE THIS HALF WITH THE RESIDENTIAL AND THE OTHER HALF WOULD COME IN WITH A COMMERCIAL, BUT THAT'S STILL A 90 FT RIGHT AWAY. AND THEN THE ALIGNMENT WITH THE FUTURE, UM, INTERCHANGE WITH MULTI AGAIN A 90 FT COLLECTOR GOING INTO FLOWER MOUND. ON THIS PLAN WE ALSO HAVE ABOUT 2.5 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE THERE THAT SHADED IN THE GREEN. IT ALSO PROVIDES FOR THE CONTINUATION OF THE EXISTING 50 FT BUFFER AND MEANDERING TRAIL ALONG THE EAST SIDE OF CLEVELAND, GIBBS AND ALONG THIS COLLECTOR. SO LOOKING AT THE ALIGNMENTS CURRENT ALIGNMENT OF CLEVELAND, GIBBS IS IN THE RED PROPOSED AS IN THE BLUE, ONE OF THINGS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO BE VERY THOUGHTFUL ABOUT WITH THE GROWTH IN THIS AREA WITH OUR NEIGHBORS, UM THE NEIGHBORING CITIES IS TO HAVE THIS PARALLEL ROAD THAT RUNS ALONG THE EAST SIDE OF 35 W, FROM 11 71 TO 407. AND SO BY PUSHING CLEVELAND GIVES UP TO THE CITY LIMIT LINE . THE TALENT LINE, THEN FLOUR AMOUNT WILL BE ABLE TO PICK THAT UP AND TAKE IT UP TO ARGYLE. WE WERE ABLE TO WORK ON ARGYLE LANDING DESIGN. I'M SORRY.

ARGYLE AVALON. I'M S, SO THERE'A STREET THAT COMES DOWN THERE AS WELL. THAT'S GOING TO PARALLEL 35 W SO EVENTUALLY THERE WILL BE THIS. THIS PARALLEL WOULD WILL HELP WITH CIRCULATION IN THE AREA. AND THEN THE PROPOSED INTERCHANGE THERE WITH MULKEY AND THEN HOW THIS WOULD TIE INTO

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THE DENTON CREEK THOROUGHFARE THAT IS PLANNED IN FLOWER MOUND THAT EVENTUALLY GOES INTO CANYON FALLS AND OUT 23 77 11 71. SO SCREENING. THIS HAS BEEN A LARGE PART OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE HAD WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THOSE DISCUSSIONS AND MEETINGS THAT WE'VE HELD. THIS IS THE SCREENING DETAIL. THAT'S PART OF THE PD AS WELL. THE RED REPRESENTS THE MASONRY. WE WANT TO CONTINUE THE STONEWALL THAT'S THERE TODAY. ALONG THE EAST SIDE OF CLEVELAND, GIBBS AND ALONG SEGMENTS OF THIS COLLECTOR ON THE NORTH SIDE AS WELL. AND THEN WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS BETWEEN THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE PROPOSED NEIGHBORHOOD WERE ALSO PROPOSING MASONRY HERE, AND THAT WAS PART OF THE MOTION THAT NATHAN SHARED ON THE SCREEN THAT CAME OUT OF THE DISCUSSION WITH P AND Z. AND IT'S ALSO COME OUT OF THE DISCUSSION WITH THE NEIGHBORS. WE'VE HAD TWO MEETINGS WITH THEM. AND I'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT. AND THEN, UM, SEPARATING THE SINGLE FAMILY 50 FT LOTS IN THE TOWN HOMES AS THE WOOD FENCING THAT'S A STANDARD BOARD ON BOARD. AND THEN THIS DASHED THIS DOTTED LINE IS OPTIONAL FENCING FOR THERE IS GOING TO BE FENCING, BUT IT'S EITHER IT COULD EITHER BE MASONRY OR THE ORNAMENTAL METAL. UM SINCE THESE ARE MORE LIKE GOVERNOR ROADS THAT ARE OPENING UP TO THE EXISTING RIGHT AWAY OR SORRY TO THE PROPOSED RIGHT AWAY. IT MIGHT BE NICE TO HAVE THAT ORNAMENTAL METAL YOU CAN KIND OF SEE IN AND IT MAKES FOR SOME NICE. UM KIND OF VIEWS AS YOU GO ALONG THAT STREET AND OPENS IT UP MORE. PERHAPS I THINK I SKIPPED A SLIDE. OKAY SO, UM, THESE ARE THE TWO YEP, THERE'S TWO SEGMENTS HERE OF TWO DIFFERENT PHASES OF THE EXISTING UNION FALLS NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WERE ADJACENT TO AND SO WE HAD OUR FIRST NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING.

UM AND IT WAS DISCUSSED ABOUT. WELL, WHAT KIND OF FANCY NO ROOT PROPOSING. WHAT ARE WE? WHAT ARE WE DOING? IF WE'RE DOING SINGLE FAMILY LOTS. WHAT KIND OF BEEN SEEING ARE WE WOULD WE DO? UM THE CONSENSUS FROM THAT GROUP HAS BEEN AND CONTINUES TO BE THAT THEY WOULD PREFER MASONRY.

UM THE MACE. THERE IS A EXISTING AMAZING ROLE IN CLEVELAND GIVES US HERE AND THEN IT TURNS TO GO TO THE EAST AND THEN IT STOPS. WHAT WE WOULD PROPOSE IS TO PICK IT UP ALONG THIS SEGMENT AND ALL THE WAY TO THIS CORNER. THE REASON THAT THESE ARE SEPARATED INTO TWO DIFFERENT SEGMENTS. IS BECAUSE THEY'RE TWO DIFFERENT PHASES, AND THEY WERE BOTH PLANTED SEPARATELY. THIS PHASE WHICH I BELIEVE IS FACE TO AS AN EXISTING 3 FT WALL MAINTENANCE EASEMENT ON ITS PLATT. SO ALL OF THESE LOTS HAVE THAT ON THEIR PLATT ALREADY TODAY. THIS FEUD THIS PHASE OVER HERE, WHICH IS VILLAGE 89 POINT IS NOT SHOWING UP THERE. SO IF YOU DON'T USE COLOR TO HELP THEM OH, MY GOODNESS. I THOUGHT IT WAS. I'M SO SORRY. OH, THERE IT IS. GOOD. OKAY GOT TO EXTEND THAT OVER THERE. OKAY SO YOU HAVE THE GREEN IS THE PHASE ONE. SO THERE'S ALREADY A 3 FT WALL MAINTENANCE EASEMENT ALONG. THE PHASE TWO. PLATT. I'M SORRY RIGHT THROUGH HERE. THIS PHASE OVER HERE WHERE THE RED IS. THERE'S EIGHT LOTS ALONG THIS LINE THERE. THIS PLAQUE CURRENTLY DOES NOT INCLUDE A 3 FT WALL MAINTENANCE EASEMENT. UM SO THAT'S WHY THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT SEGMENTS. WE WANTED TO KIND OF MAKE SURE YOU KNOW WHERE DO YOU WHEN WE WERE TALKING TO NEIGHBORS? WHERE DO YOU LIVE? WHAT YOU CURRENTLY HAVE. BECAUSE UM, THE MASONRY WALL IS A DOUBLE SIDED STONE FENCE. THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. THESE ARE THE PICTURES FROM WHAT'S OUT THERE TODAY. AND THAT THIS IS A PICTURE THAT REQUIRES, UM, THE ABILITY TO GET ON BOTH SIDES OF THE WALL, UM, TO BUILD IT TO WHERE IT LOOKS LIKE THIS, OR YOU'RE PUTTING STONE ON THAT MORTAR ON BOTH SIDES, SO YOU NEED TO HAVE ACCESS TO BOTH SIDES. AND IDEALLY, YOU WANT TO PUT THE WALL ON OR CLOSE TO THAT PROPERTY LINE. AND SO THAT'S WHY YOU'LL SEE IN A VERY TYPICAL OF A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL PLOTS SPECIFICALLY ALONG THE PERIMETER , WHERE THERE'S MASONRY SCREENING WALLS, THERE WILL BE MORE THAN LIKELY A 3 FT WALL MAINTENANCE EASEMENT. UM MOST OF THE TIME THOSE WERE MAINTAINED BY THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, H O A AND WE ARE PROPOSING A NEW FOR THIS 58 ACRES. AND IF TO DO THIS MASONRY WALL ARE THE PROPOSAL WOULD MAINTAIN IT, THE DEVELOPER WOULD CONSTRUCT IT AND THE NEW H O A WOULD MAINTAIN IT. AND SO THIS IS WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

AND THEN I WANTED TO SHOW THIS SECTION THIS PROFILE VIEW. THE EXISTING LOTS THERE ON THE LEFT.

THAT PROPOSAL IS ON THE RIGHT. THE FOLD LINE IS THE PROPERTY LINE FOR THE EXISTING LOT. THIS REPRESENTS THE 6 FT. MASONRY WALL. THIS IS THE 6 FT WALL. THAT'S THERE TODAY THAT WE WOULD KIND OF CONTINUE AROUND. AND IT WOULD BE THE FACE OF THE INSIDE WOULD BE ON THE PROPERTY LINE OF THE EXISTING NEIGHBOR. SO THIS WALL IS ABOUT A FOOT THICK. IT WOULD GO INTO THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. AND THIS IS A SECTION VIEW OF SHOWING IF YOU'RE ON WESTBORO, WHICH IS RIGHT HERE ON THE AERIAL, AND WE CUT A SECTION VIEW HERE TO THE PROPOSED STREET, A THIS HOME. IS

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20 FT. SETBACK FROM THAT RIGHT AWAY. IT'S AT THIS ELEVATION. THIS IS THEIR BACKYARD. YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE IT VERY WELL ON HERE. BUT HERE'S A PROPERTY LINE, AND THIS IS WHERE WE WOULD PROPOSE THE 6 FT MASONRY WALL. THIS IS SHOWING THERE'S AN EXISTING 3 FT WALL MAINTENANCE EASEMENT TO THAT LIGHT GRAY. AND THEN ON OUR SIDE, WE WOULD PROPOSE A 5 FT WALL MAINTENANCE EASEMENT SO THAT OUR HOA OF THE PROPOSAL COULD ALSO GET IN THERE AND MAINTAIN THAT OKAY? AND SO LET ME KEEP WALKING THROUGH THIS SECTION. SO THERE IS AN EXISTING 3 FT. WALL MAINTENANCE HAS BEEN ON THERE. PLATT THAT'S GOOD NEWS. THAT'S THAT. THAT IS VERY GOOD NEWS. IN ORDER TO GET ACCESS TO BE ABLE TO CONSTRUCT THE WALL. IDEALLY, IT WOULD BE. GOOD IF THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE ROOM THAN 3 FT. TO BE ABLE TO GET YOUR WHEEL, BARREL AND OTHER EQUIPMENT OVER THERE THAT YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO GET ON THAT LOT. YOU NOTIFY THE OWNERS AND GET IN THERE TO DO YOUR WORK. UM AND SO WE HAVE ASKED THE NEIGHBORS. YOU ALREADY HAVE A SEGMENT ONE. YOU ALREADY HAVE A 3 FT WALL MAINTENANCE EASEMENT. WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO GRANT AN INITIAL AN ADDITIONAL 2 FT. UM TO BE ABLE TO GET SOME MORE SPACE IN THERE TO BUILD THE WALL. AND SO WE'VE TALKED TO OUR CONTRACTORS TODAY . UM, AND THEY AGREED THAT THAT WOULD BE PREFERRED. SO THIS IS SEGMENT ONE. SORRY LET ME BACK UP THIS RED LINE HERE ON THE EXISTING LOT SIDE REPRESENTS THE ADDITIONAL 2 FT THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO CAPTURE FROM EACH HOMEOWNER ON WESTBORO BACKING UP TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. SO THAT WAY WE GET A LITTLE BIT MORE SPACE WHEN WE'RE IN THEIR BUILDING THE WALL THIS PICTURE ALSO SHOWS SOME OF THE PROPOSED GRADING NOTICE THE ELEVATION OF THE EXISTING LOT BEING A 6 94. AND THE PROPOSED A LOT. IS A 6 91 SO THERE WOULD WHAT WE WOULD DO WITH THE GRADING IS SLOPED THAT DOWN THE THREE OR 4 FT. TO ESTABLISH THIS THE PAD FOR THIS RESIDENTIAL LOT RESIDENTIAL HOME THERE. SO WHILE THE TOPOGRAPHY OUT THERE RIGHT NOW HAS BEEN STOCKPILES OF DIRT. IT'S SORT OF DECEIVING BECAUSE THEY'RE RESTORING THAT FOR WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO USE IT. WE WANT TO BALANCE THE SITE, BUT WE WANT TO BE SENSITIVE TO THE NEIGHBORS AND WORK WITH WHAT IT IS THAT THEY'RE CONCERNED WITH. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO SHIFT THAT DIRT DIRT AND MOVE IT ELSEWHERE ON THE PROPERTY AND MAKE SURE THAT THESE PADS THAT BACK UP TO THE EXISTING NEIGHBORS ARE LOWER. AND THIS IS, UM THIS IS KIND OF GETTING GIVING US SOME INSIGHT INTO OUR BRAIN. YOU KNOW WHEN WE'RE WE'RE WORKING ON THIS IN A PRELIMINARY WAY RIGHT NOW, WE HAVEN'T DONE ANY FINAL GRADING PLANS OR DETAILED GRADING ANALYSES. BUT THIS IS SORT OF A PRELIMINARY GRADING APPROACH THAT OUR PROJECT ENGINEER HAS BEEN WORKING ON. AND IT'S A IT'S GOT A COLOR CODED LEGEND. YOU CAN KIND OF SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING . BUT THIS IS THESE ARE THE WESTBORO LOTS RIGHT HERE. ALONG THAT COLD A SACK. AND THESE ARE THE IRONSTONE LOTS OVER THERE.

AND THIS IS THE PROPOSED PLAN. AND SO WE PUT THE PATCH THESE TOGETHER. THE RED ARROWS REPRESENT THE STORMWATER RUNOFF ON THE LOT AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO DRAIN IT TO THE STREET AS IT COMES ON OUR PROPERTY FROM THE WESTBORO LOTS OVER HERE, WE'RE GONNA SEND IT DOWN TO THE SIDE OF OUR PROPOSED LOTS AND THAT WOULD GO AND THEN TAKE IT OUT TO THE STREETS TO GET INTO OUR STORM SYSTEM. AND IDEALLY, ORAL OF OUR DRAINAGE IS GOING TO GO. NOT IDEALLY, KIND OF HAS TO ALL OF OUR DRAINAGE NEEDS TO GO TO THIS NORTHEAST SIDE AND BE RELEASED INTO THAT STUDIED FLOODPLAIN. THAT'S BEEN, UM RELEASES INTO GRAND BRANCH. AND SO THIS IS KIND OF WHAT THIS PICTURE IS, IS SHOWING SOME OF OUR DRAINAGE PROPOSAL OF PRELIMINARILY UNTIL WE GET IN THERE AND DO THE FINAL DESIGN. ANOTHER COMPONENT THAT WE'RE ADDING TO THE PLAN. THAT WAS SOME GOOD INPUT FROM THE TOWN WAS FUTURE AMENITY LOCATION FOR THE RESIDENTS, SINCE THIS WILL BE ITS OWN A, UM THERE IS OPEN SPACE AND TRAILS FOR THEM, BUT IT'S WHERE THEY ABLE TO USE SOME OPEN SPACE. UM IN A CONCENTRATED WAY. SO WE'RE PROPOSING A FUTURE DOG PARK PLAYGROUND IN THIS LOCATION. UM HERE ALONG THE TRAIL, SO WE THINK IT'S A GOOD UM, IT'S SORRY. IT'S CONVENIENT FOR THE RESIDENTS BECAUSE OF ITS LOCATION ALONG THAT TRAIL, AND IT'S IN AN OPEN SPACE AREA THAT HAS ACCESS TO THE FLOODPLAIN OPEN SPACE WHICH REALLY LINKS ALL OF CANYON FALLS TOGETHER. SO OVERALL, THIS IS THE PICTURE OF , UM ARE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AND THEN THE TRAIL. FINISHING THAT LOOP AS WE COME TO THE NORTH AND THEN OVER TO THE EAST, DOWN HERE ON IRONSTONE AND ACADIA, UM AND THEN THAT WILL BE , YOU KNOW, NICE WALKING LOOP THAT FOLKS CAN ENJOY EVEN COMING OVER INTO GRAND BRANCH AND COMING DOWN THAT WAY TO, UM SO WE'RE EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO PUT THE FINISHING PIECE ON THAT. ZOOMING INTO WHAT IS THIS? 8 FT TRAIL LOOKED LIKE ALONG THIS

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FUTURE COLLECTOR. WHAT WILL IT LOOK LIKE? WE TALKED ABOUT I THINK ON THE TECH STOCK STUFF HEARD HIM MENTION OF SHADE TREES. AND YOU KNOW, FOLKS WANNA WALK WHERE THEIR SHADE AND IT WAS A VERY BRUTAL SUMMER AND SO WE'RE AWARE OF THAT AND WANT TO BE SENSITIVE TO IT. SO WE HAVE AMPLE SPACE WITHIN THE 50. FT. BUFFER. UM HERE. THIS IS OUTSIDE OF THE RIGHT AWAY. AND THERE ARE NO EXISTING OPPORTUNITY. WATER EASEMENTS HERE, EITHER. SO THAT'S GOOD NEWS TO MEANDER THAT TRAIL AND PROVIDE FOR SHADE TREES THERE AND THEN, AS WE GO ALONG THE PROPOSED COLLECTOR THAT GOES INTO FLOWER MOUND. WE HAVE ENOUGH SPACE FROM THE 15 FT LANDSCAPE BUFFER, BUT THERE'S ALSO A 10 FT PARKWAY ON THE COLLECTOR SIDE, AND IT'S A 10 FT PARKWAY ON THE LOCAL RESIDENTIAL STREET SIDE SO WE CAN MEANDER THAT TRAIL AND PROVIDE FOR SHADE TREES THERE, BRING THE TRAIL IN THE OPEN SPACE, AND THEN IT COMES ALONG AND CONNECTS INTO THE DOG PARK AND PLAYGROUND AREA AND THEN AGAIN OVER TO THE EAST. KEEP DOING MY MOUSE OVER HERE. I'M SO SORRY. I NEED TO DO IT ON THE SCREEN. ALL RIGHT. SO THIS IS THE LOT DETAILED BLOW UP OF THESE ARE THE EXISTING LOTS ON THE CANYON FALLS FLAT TODAY. THIS DASH LINE IN THE BACK IS THE 3 FT WALL MAINTENANCE EASEMENT. UM BUT THEY'RE 50 BY. I THINK THE MINIMUM IS REALLY 1 10, BUT I THINK AVERAGE IS PROBABLY 1, 19 OR SO. UM AND SO WE'RE PROPOSING 50 BY 1 20 AS WELL. SO ALL OF THESE DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS ARE THAT ARE IN THE PD. TODAY. WE'RE GOING TO MAINTAIN THOSE WE'RE INTRODUCING A NEW USE AGAIN TO PROVIDE FOR THIS TRANSITION, GETTING CLOSER TO 35 ALONG THAT CORRIDOR. AND UM, THIS IS THE TOWN HOME DIMENSIONS. SO IT'S 20 FT. SORRY. THE LOTS ARE 20. FIVE BY 90. IT'S A 20 FT FRONT SETBACK. UM AND THEN A 5 FT REAR YARD. AND THOSE ARE KIND OF WAY THEY'RE ORIENTED IN TOWN HOMES WHERE YOU'RE TYPICALLY ARRANGING THOSE SORT OF IN A, UM MORE RECTILINEAR FASHION BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT YOU KNOW, IT'S A IT'S A BUILDING WITH WITH ATTACHED UNITS IN IT. UM, AND SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE, I GUESS. GEOMETRICAL OR RECTILINEAR, BUT POSITIONING THOSE SO THEY HAVE VIEWS INTO THE STREET AND INTO THE OPEN SPACE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. MA'AM. YES. IS MY CORRECT SOME OF THESE MAPS THAT YOU'RE SHOWING DON'T SHOW THAT ADDITIONAL SPACE ALONG THE COLLECTOR ROAD AND THAT SOME OF THESE ARE FROM THE FIRST REVISION, RIGHT? YES UM, FOR EXAMPLE, RIGHT HERE WE THE WAY WE SHADED THIS WE? WE COLORED THE ALL THE WAY TO THE RIGHT WAY LINE AND THAT THE PAYMENT ISN'T THIS WIDE. UM UH, ON THE FINAL DETAILED PLANS, AND SO THIS BLOW UP THAT WE SHOW HERE. THIS IS THE PAVEMENT. SO THERE IS A 10 FT PARKWAY THERE, THAT'S JUST NOT SHOW. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR ASKING. ALRIGHT SO, UM, SOME JUST QUICK RECAP OF THE SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS ROUTE. WE WILL HAVE OUR OWN H O A FOR THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY. WE ARE PROVIDING FOR AMENITY AREA AND WE'VE ADDED AN AMENITY AREA EXHIBIT TO THE P D. AND THEN WE ARE IMPROVING FOR THE THIS DEVELOPMENT. WE WOULD IMPROVE OUR REQUIREMENTS FOR THE CLEVELAND GIBBS AND THE COLLECTOR ROAD. UM THAT ARE CONSISTENT WITH, UM WHAT HAS BEEN DONE IN THE PAST, BUT ALSO YOU KNOW WHAT IS REQUIRED, SO WE'RE GOING TO FOLLOW THOSE REQUIREMENTS THERE. AND THEN I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THIS. I THINK WE SPENT QUITE A BIT OF TIME WE HAD A NEIGHBORING MEETING. I SAID THAT THE, UM I THINK BEGINNING OF SEPTEMBER AND THEN WE HAD AN OPEN HOUSE JUST LAST NIGHT. AND THIS IS THE KIND OF A SLIDE THAT SORT OF SUMMARIZES THAT. UM AND THESE ARE THE TWO FLYERS THAT WE SENT OUT AND THIS IS WHY IT WAS IMPORTANT. WE SENT ONE FLYER TO SEGMENT PEOPLE THAT LIVE ALONG SEGMENT ONE BECAUSE THEY ALREADY HAVE THE EASEMENT AND THEN SEGMENT TO WAS A DIFFERENT FLYER BECAUSE WE ASKED FOR THEM TO FILL OUT THE SURVEY SEGMENT TO WE WERE ASKING FOR 5 FT AND SEGMENT ONE. WE WERE ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL 2 FT. SO THAT'S WHY WE HAD TO DO IT LIKE THAT. UM WE HAD A GOOD TURNOUT LAST NIGHT. REALLY GOOD DISCUSSIONS. UM WE TRY TO GET AS MANY PEOPLE TO SHOW UP AS POSSIBLE. UM, WE DID GET SOME FEEDBACK ON THESE SURVEYS. UM AND THEN HERE'S KIND OF SOME SUMMARY OF WHAT SOME OF THAT FEEDBACK WAS AND SOME OF THE RESIDENTS THAT WERE ABLE TO ATTEND LAST NIGHT. AND THEN, UM, SEGMENT NUMBER TWO. THIS IS THESE ARE THE FOLKS THAT WERE THERE AS WELL? UM AND SO EVERYBODY GOT A FLYER AND I THINK IT'S BEEN DISCUSSED IN OTHER FORUMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT I'VE WHEN WE HAD OUR FIRST NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING. I SHARED MY CONTACT INFORMATION WITH EVERYBODY. THAT WAS THERE AND I'VE HAD A COUPLE OF PEOPLE REACH OUT TO, SO WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO HAVE SOME GOOD CONVERSATIONS. OKAY SO WE ALSO HAD SORT OF A SUMMARY OF SOME OF THE F AKE US FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD. OKAY SO YOU'RE WHAT? YOU KNOW SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS, I'LL GO THROUGH THESE LITTLE STAY ON TRACK HERE WHO'S GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE

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FOR MAINTAINING THE WALL AND IT'S GOING TO BE THE PROPOSED H O A. NOT THEIR H O A UM, AND IF THERE'S AN IMPROVEMENT WITHIN SO MANY FEET OF THEIR EXISTING FENCE, WHAT HAPPENS? UM AND OUR CONTRACTORS WILL BE ABLE TO WORK AROUND THOSE AS NEEDED. SOME OF THE FOLKS LAST NIGHT SAID THEY HAVE TREES AND SHRUBS AGAINST THEIR FENCE. WELL TO BE ABLE TO BUILD A WALL. THOSE WILL BE IMPACTED. THERE'LL BE HAVE TO BE REPLACED. UM AND THE KIND THAT THOUGHT THAT THE EXPENSE OF THE DEVELOPER. WHOEVER IS BUILDING THE WALL TO REPLACE THOSE BECAUSE WE HAVE TO GET THOSE WE HAVE TO GET IN THERE GET ACCESS TO BE ABLE TO PUT THE WALL UP. SO IF WE IMPACT THE TREES AND LANDSCAPING ALONG THEIR OVER REPLACED, WE TALKED ABOUT SPRINKLER HEADS HAVE TO REPLACE THOSE IF THEY GET, UM DAMAGED. UM THIS THIRD QUESTION WHY ARE YOU NOT USING YOUR SPACE TO INCLUDE THE EASEMENT? SO THE MAINSTREAM WALL SINCE I SAID IT HAS TO BE WE NEED ACCESS TO BOTH SIDES TO BE ABLE TO BUILD THE WALL. SO YOU PUT THE BILL DIET. UM I FORGET EXACTLY WHAT'S CALLED THAT YOU BUILD THE CONCRETE PART OF THE WALL IN THE MIDDLE. AND THEN YOU BRING IN CRUISE ON EITHER SIDE, AND THEN THEY MORTAR AND PUT THE STONE ON THE FACE OF THE WALL. AND SO, UM EACH SIDE HAS TO HAVE ACCESS TO DO THAT. AND THEN OVER TIME, WE NEED ACCESS TO BOTH SIDES TO ALSO TOUCH UP. THE MORTAR OF THE STONE FELL OFF TO BE ABLE TO GET IN THERE AND REPLACE THAT. AND SO IT ALLOWS THE H O A TO THE ABILITY TO ACCESS THE PROPERTY OWNER AND THE OWNER WILL BE NOTIFIED AND BE GIVEN A HEADS UP. UM AND SO IT'S YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT HOW AND PART OF THIS QUESTION WAS. HOW OFTEN DOES IT HAVE TO BE MAINTAINED, AND IT'S VERY VERY, VERY PERIODICALLY. BUT IF SOMEONE CALLS IN AND SAID, HEY, THIS STONE FELL OFF, COME OVER HERE AND FIX IT, THEN THEY WOULD, BUT I THINK IT'S MAINTAINED REALLY ON A PROBABLY FIVE OR 10 YEAR BASIS, AND IT'S NOT REALLY THAT FREQUENT THAT THEY'RE COMING IN THERE AND CHECKING IT. UM THIS FOURTH QUESTION ABOUT MY GONNA LOSE 5 FT IN MY YARD. UM AND IT'S WE TALKED ABOUT WHAT AN EASEMENT IS. IT'S AN INVISIBLE LINE. YOU STILL RETAIN THE OWNERSHIP. AND YOU CAN STILL USE THAT LAND. UM THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT BUILDING A ACCESSORY STRUCTURE. YOU KNOW THERE, AND THE TOWN'S CODE ALREADY REQUIRES A CERTAIN SETBACK FOR ACCESSORY STRUCTURES , AND SO THAT EASEMENT BEING THERE WOULD NOT IMPEDE SOMEONE'S ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO BUILD ACCESSORY STRUCTURE. AS LONG AS YOU KNOW IT HAS TO COMPLY WITH THE TOWN'S CODE, ANYWAY. UM AND SO WE HAD. THAT WAS A GOOD CONVERSATION. UM WE TALKED ABOUT DOES THE EASEMENT. HOW'S IT IMPACT THE LOT. UM DOES IT REDUCE VALUE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? AND WE SAID, WELL, THE NO, IT WOULDN'T YOU YOUR EIGHT IS STILL ABLE TO USE YOUR PROPERTY. AND IN FACT, WE BELIEVE THE MASONRY WALL WOULD INCREASE YOUR VALUE BECAUSE IT'S A MAINTENANCE OBLIGATION THAT YOU DON'T HAVE ANY RESPONSIBILITY TO DO OR COST TO DO WHAT'S ON ANOTHER ENTITY TO DO THAT? AND IT'S BEAUTIFUL TO HAVE THAT IN YOUR BACKYARD. I WOULD BELIEVE. AND THEN THE LAST QUESTION THERE WERE SOME HOMEOWNERS THAT, UM THROUGH A PREVIOUS AGREEMENT AS THEY WERE PURCHASING THEIR LOT OR THEIR HOME. UM THEY WERE ASKED TO PAY A PREMIUM OR START CERTAIN ADDITIONAL FEE. UM AND SO WHO'S THEY WERE ASKING FOR HELP? YOU KNOW WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT MONEY? AND THAT WAS A PREVIOUS ENTITY THAT THAT THEY ENTERED THAT AGREEMENT WITH. WE WEREN'T PART OF THAT DISCUSSION OR PART OF THAT TRANSACTION. UM BUT THE SITE HAS BEEN INTENDED TO BE DEVELOPED EVER SINCE THE PD WAS APPROVED IN 2008, I THINK IS THE ORIGINAL. UM AND SO IT'S THE INTENTION IS THERE TO DO THAT TO DO A DEVELOPMENT AND SO IT IS GOING TO BE DEVELOPED, AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT WAS DONE OR SAID IN THIS PREVIOUS AGREEMENTS, BUT I WE FELT BAD THAT THAT THAT THAT HAPPENED TO THOSE NEIGHBORS . UM BUT WE UNDERSTAND THAT SOMETIMES THAT THAT DOES TAKE PLACE. UM SO OVERALL, I THINK IT WAS GOOD OUTREACH. GOOD INPUT. UM AND I'LL JUST KIND OF CUT TO THE CHASE HERE, TOO. WE DON'T.

UM WE HAVE GOOD INPUT FROM MOST OF THE NEIGHBORS. WE WEREN'T ABLE TO GET EVERYBODY TO COME OUT TO THE OPEN HOUSE MEETING AND NOT EVERYBODY SIGNED IN ON THE SURVEY. UM BUT WE KNOW THAT, UM, IN ORDER TO DO THIS STONE WALL WE'RE GONNA NEED IT TO GET TO TALK TO ALL THE NEIGHBORS. AT SOME POINT, SO, UM, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND BRING UP THE TEAM IF WE NEED HELP. COUNCIL. UM. THE MAYOR AND MYSELF ATTENDED THE PNG MEETING THAT THEY PRESENTED THIS INITIALLY. AS A RESULT, A LOT OF DISCUSSION, A FEW PRESIDENTS GOT UP AND SPOKE WE HEARD A LOT OF THINGS AND I MADE COMMENTS NOT AS MAYOR PRO TEM, BUT IN AS A CONCERNS THIS AND PUBLIC COMMENT. OR IN THE PUBLIC HEARING. UM, I BELIEVE THE MIRROR DID AS WELL. SOME OF THE

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THINGS IN THE THINGS ARE CONSISTENT, RIGHT IS WE ASKED FOR WALKWAYS THAT WERE WIDER ON THE NORTH SIDE HERE THAT ARE SHOWN AND GIVING A LITTLE MORE SPACE FOR THAT PATHWAY. WE ASKED FOR SHADE TREES. ALL THE CONSISTENT THINGS WE'RE ASKING FROM OTHER DEVELOPERS HERE. UM I STOPPED. I BELIEVE IT WAS SATURDAY OR SUNDAY AND VISIT A FEW RESIDENTS IN CANYON FALLS AND VISITED THEIR BACKYARDS. AND TALK TO THEM ABOUT THIS TO SEE WHERE IT WAS. AND ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS I HEARD. I DON'T WANT TO LOSE SIX INCHES, RIGHT, LOSE THREE INCHES AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MCADAMS AND DEVELOPER COMMITTED TO WAS ACTUALLY PUSHING THAT WALL. TO THE PROPERTY LINES SO ENCROACHES ON THE NEW NEW OWNERS RIGHT NOW THAT FENCE IS A LITTLE BIT IN THEIR YARD ACTUALLY GAIN A TOUCH OF SPACE IN THEIR YARDS AS WELL. SO JUST JUST COMMENTS AND OBSERVATIONS BASICALLY EVERYTHING THAT WAS BROUGHT UP IN P AND Z. AND I ALSO HAVE A MEETING WITH THEM ON TUESDAY MORNING. BASED ON FEEDBACK FROM RESIDENTS. EVERYTHING THAT WAS ASKED WAS BROUGHT FORWARD AND MODIFIED TO MEET THE RESIDENTS, REQUESTS AND REQUIREMENTS AS WELL, AS ARE SOME OF THE MAYORS OF MY SUGGESTIONS FROM WHAT I CAN ASCERTAIN DURING OUR MEETING ON TUESDAY MORNING, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. GOT A COUPLE QUESTIONS OR ISSUES OR, HOWEVER, UM, YOU KNOW, MOST OF OUR TOWN IS E T. J. AND WE RUN THE RISK OF GETTING SOME DEVELOPMENT THAT WE MAY NOT LIKE OR DESIRE. BUT THAT'S THE NATURE OF THE T. J. THIS HERE IS WITHIN TOWN LIMITS , SO WE DO HAVE SOME CONTROL OVER. WHAT CAN GO IN WHAT CANNOT GO IN. UM ACCORDING TO THE DOCUMENTS. WE ARE ALREADY MAXED OUT IN THAT AREA FOR HIGH DENSITY HOMES. UH, AS FAR AS THE COMMERCIAL ASPECT GOES, THAT'S PER THE PAPERWORK. THAT LAND USE IS LIMITED RIGHT NOW TO COMMERCIAL BECAUSE RESIDENTIAL HAS BEEN MAXED OUT. SO NOW WE'RE LOOKING TO CHANGE THE ZONING TO ALLOW 200 MORE HOMES, IDENTITY HOMES. AT THE EXPENSE OF OUR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. AH! RIGHT NOW WE'RE LIMITED ON ANY COMMERCIAL AMENITIES THAT NORTH LAKE RESIDENTS ARE INTERESTED IN. AND LOOKING AT THE MOST RECENT COMMUNITY SURVEY. 93% OF NORTH LAKE RESIDENTS SHOP OUTSIDE OF NORTH LAKE. 94% DYING OUTSIDE OF NORTH LAKE. LOOKS LIKE WE'RE SACRIFICING COMMERCIAL GROWTH FOR MORE HIGH DENSITY HOUSING. LIKE. I GOT A PROBLEM WITH THAT BECAUSE I'VE BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH. WHERE WE'D LIKE TO HAVE SOME MORE COMMERCIAL OPTIONS AVAILABLE TO US. THE OTHER THING IS TRAFFIC. I THINK RIGHT NOW CANYON FALLS, I BELIEVE HAS. THREE POSSIBLY FOUR ROADS THAT DUMP OUT ONTO CLEVELAND, GIBBS. EVEN NOW, WITH THE TRAFFIC LIGHT ON SOME DAYS, THAT LINE OF TRAFFIC IS BACKED UP. ACCORDING TO YOUR MAPS, YOU'RE LOOKING AT ADDING FIVE MORE ROADS TO DUMP OUT ONTO CLEVELAND, GIBBS. IT'S JUST GONNA MAKE TRAFFIC A LOT WORSE.

SAID WE'RE ALREADY MAXED OUT ON HOUSING FOR THAT AREA. I THINK WE SHOULD STICK. TO WHAT WE HAVE AND LIMIT THAT. FOR COMMERCIAL USE ONLY AT THIS POINT. WE HAVE ENOUGH HIGH DENSITY HOUSING HERE AS IT IS. BETWEEN THE TRAFFIC AND LOSING COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES. I'M PROBABLY NOT IN FAVOR OF THAT AT THIS POINT. QUESTION FOR YOU. THE H O A. THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF COMMENTARY AND GET TO FINISH THE CONVERSATION AT THE MEETING LAST NIGHT ABOUT THIS BEING PART OF A HOH THAT SPANS INTO FIRE AMOUNT DEVELOPMENT. UM IF SO, I'D LIKE TO KNOW IF THAT'S TRUE OR NOT, OR IF THIS IS SELF CONTAINED. AND SECOND, IF IT IS, IS THERE A POOL AMENITY THAT THESE FOLKS WILL BE ABLE TO ACCESS AS PART OF THAT BROADER PROJECT. SO I WAS NOT PART OF THE CONVERSATION WITH IF IT WAS GOING TO BE PART OF FLOUR MOUNTS H O A TRYING TO THINK HOW THAT WOULD WORK. SO WITH FLOWER MOUND THIS PIECE TO THE NORTH THIS IS ALL PLANNED OUT FOR FUTURE CAMPUS COMMERCIAL AND THIS FENCE LINE HERE. EVERYTHING ABOVE IT IS UN ZONED AT THIS POINT. SO THE DISCUSSION HAS BEEN THAT THERE WILL BE AN EXCUSE PROPOSAL COMING IN SOON FOR THAT PIECE. THAT'S 100. I THINK IT'S 100 AND 60 ACRES OR SO AND THEN LEAVING THE EXISTING CANYON FALLS, OWNING INTACT IN FLOWER MOUND AT THIS POINT UM. I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER TO JACK OR GRAHAM IF THEY BELIEVE THIS IS

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GOING TO BE A SEPARATE H O A. I'M SORRY. UH, INTEGRATED H AWAY WITH FLOWER MOUND. BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO IN FLORMAN. I DON'T I COULD SEE THIS STARTING FIRST AND BEING ITS OWN A MAYBE AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE. THAT GETS ADDED, BUT I NEED TO REALLY TALK TO MY CLIENT AND SEE IF THAT'S REALLY WHAT IS THE INTENT BEFORE I ANSWER THAT QUESTION. A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THIS FOR YOUR COUNSEL. SO THIS WAS ORIGINALLY SLATED TO BE THE LIBANO APARTMENTS THAT ARE NOW ON 11 71 , AND THERE WAS SOME DELICATE NUDGES THAT WENT ON BECAUSE THOSE WERE ENTITLED HERE TO GET THOSE OFF OF THAT CORNER BECAUSE THE RESIDENTS HERE DO NOT DID NOT WANT AND STILL DO NOT WANT THREE STORY APARTMENTS OFF THEIR BACK WALL. AND NO ONE IN THE CANYON FALLS COMMUNITY WANTS APARTMENTS UP ON THAT CORNER BECAUSE OF THE THINK EXCEPTIONAL TRAFFIC THAT 300 APARTMENT UNITS SPRING. THE. THAT WAS THE FIRST PHASE SECOND PHASE AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS UNIVERSALLY, UM, FAIRLY UNIVERSALLY ACCEPTED BY THE CANYON FALLS RESIDENTS AND BROAD CONVERSATIONS IS THAT A RESIDENTIAL PROJECT IS PREFERABLE TO COMMERCIAL PROJECT ON THE EAST SIDE OF CLEVELAND GIVES THE IDEA OF BOX STORES WITH TRUCK DOCKS AND OVERHEAD LIGHTS IS SOMETHING IN THE TRAFFIC THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH IT IS SOMETHING THAT THE RESIDENTS HAVE EXPRESSED. A DESIRE TO AVOID. WANT TO KEEP THE COMMERCIAL ON THE WEST SIDE OF CLEVELAND, GIBBS. SO A RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS IS THE FOCUS NOW, UM, THE DENSITIES AND THE USES THAT THAT REMAINS OPEN. AS AS TO WHAT FOLKS ARE INTENDING. THAT COMES MORE ABOUT AS A RESULT OF THE COUNTER, WHICH IS WE WANT TO RESIDENTIAL PROJECT, WHICH WAS THE SIGNAL THAT WAS SENT AND THE RESPONSES THIS, SO THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE TO EVALUATE. THE SECOND CONCERN WAS WELL, THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER CONCERNS ABOUT DRAINAGE AND YOUR ROOF LINES AND PAD SITES. ALL THAT'S BEEN ADDRESSED BETRAYAL, THE DOG PARK AND PLAYGROUND. ALL OF THAT. THE PHASING THE TIMING. ALL THOSE HAVE BEEN GONE THROUGH. THE NEXT ONE WAS THIS IDEA OF THE MASONRY WALL? THE MASONRY WALL? THERE'S NOT, UM IS ACTUALLY A VERY CHALLENGING PROJECT TO ACCOMMODATE, BUT IT'S ONE THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT BOOST TO THE VALUES OF THE HOMEOWNERS ALONG THIS ROUTE. IT GIVES THEM SOMETHING A WIN FOR THE INCONVENIENCE OF HAVING YOU KNOW , HOME OVER THE BACK WALL, AND THEY AT THIS POINT RECOGNIZED THAT THE ZONING BACK THERE ALLOWED FOR THIS USE BEFORE THEY PURCHASE THEIR HOMES THAT SAID, IT'S STILL DISAPPOINTING WHEN IT WHEN IT COMES AROUND. AND SO THE MAINSTREAM WALL EXTENSION, WHICH DOESN'T MAKE TRADITIONAL SENSE TO HAVE BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL UNITS. ALL THE OTHER RESIDENTIAL UNITS HAVE WOOD FENCES BETWEEN BACK TO BACK LOTS. THERE ARE SOME WITH RETAINING WALLS. BUT THE WOOD FENCES ARE STILL PRESENT ON TOP OF THOSE RETAINING WALLS. UM, AND SO THE ASK, WAS TO FOCUS ON GETTING A MAINSTREAM WALL, WHICH WOULD UPGRADE AND SEPARATE THE TWO NEIGHBORHOODS. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK AT THIS POINT WHATEVER IS CONSIDERED IS A MUST. AND SO I THINK THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE'RE EXAMINING TONIGHT COUNCIL AND I WOULD RECOMMEND TO YOU VERY STRONGLY. THAT IS A NECESSITY FOR ANY PROJECT THAT COMES ON THIS BACK LOT. THERE'S A NUANCE HERE IS THAT THE FOLKS IN PHASE THAT BORDER PHASE ONE ARE GENERALLY AT THIS POINT PRETTY CONDUCIVE TO THIS FOR THE ONES I'VE TALKED TO AFTER THEY WORK THROUGH SOME OF THE TECHNICALITIES AND TALK THROUGH THE SITUATION. THOSE IN PHASE TWO ON IRONSTONE, I DON'T THINK ARE QUITE THERE YET. AND SO IT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT WHEN WE PROPOSE THIS, IF IT'S UNDER CONSIDERATION WOULD BE A REQUIREMENT TO BUILD THE WALL. IT'S GOING TO BE UP TO YOU TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THEIR AGREEMENT IF YOU DON'T GET THEIR AGREEMENT. YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO COME BACK BEFORE YOU CAN BUILD ANYTHING AS PART OF OUR CONDITIONAL APPROVAL IF THIS WAS TO BE APPROVED JUST TO BE MORE PRECISE SEGMENT ONE AND SEGMENT TO NOT PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO. CORRECT YES, YES. THERE THE RED SECTION SEGMENT TO IF SEGMENT TWO IS NOT CONDUCIVE TO CHANGING IT. THEN YOU MAY BRING IT BACK.

AT THEIR REQUEST TO CHANGE THAT TO LEAVE THE WALL AS IS WITH THE FENCE, IF THAT'S WHAT THOSE RESIDENTS WANT, BUT THOSE RESIDENTS NEED TO BE ABLE TO DECIDE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. WHAT THEY WANTED TO BE THOSE ON THE GREEN ROUTE. THEIR SEGMENT ONE ARE ARE ALL FOR THE MOST. I HAVEN'T HAD ANYBODY SAY NO TO IT JUST CONCERNS ABOUT HOW IT'S BEING BUILT WHEN IT'S GOING TO BE BUILT. AND YOU KNOW, DAMAGE TO PROPERTY AND ALL THOSE CONSIDERATIONS. SO YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET THOSE AGREEMENTS STARTED TO THIS. IF YOU CAN'T GET THEM, THEN YOU CAN'T MOVE FORWARD UNTIL YOU COME BACK AND WE RE DISCUSS. BUT AS FAR AS THE DENSITIES COUNCIL THAT'S THAT'S YOUR THAT'S ALL OUR CALL. I SHOULD SAY OUR CALL. BUT THAT IS THE COUNTERPROPOSAL TO A

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RESIDENTIAL ON THE EAST SIDE. THIS IS WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED. SO WE CAN WE CAN TAKE IT UP.

TAKE IT DOWN. BUT THE ALTERNATIVE OF PUTTING COMMERCIAL ON THESE BACK BEHIND THESE LOTS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT CAN INVOLVES, IS THE RESIDENTS ARE SAYING THEY WANT AND THAT'S THE ALTERNATIVE THAT THEY HAVE AVAILABLE TO THEM. UNDER THE CURRENT ZONING, SO WE'VE GOT THE APARTMENTS MOVED OFF, WHICH WAS ONE BUT NOW THEY WANT THE COMMERCIAL LIGHTING AND ACCESS AND TRAFFIC TO BE MOVED OFF OF THIS SPACE. AND THEY DON'T WANT THE HEIGHT ASSOCIATED WITH OFFICE PARKS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. THEY DON'T WANT STORAGE UNITS, WHICH IS ALSO ALLOWED IN THE EXISTING ZONING. THOSE ARE NOT THINGS THAT THEY WISH TO BE BEHIND THEM. SO RESIDENTIAL UNITS ARE ACCEPTABLE, ALBEIT WITH THIS CONSIDERATION IS THE ONE BIG CHANGE THAT THEY WANTED.

AND I BELIEVE NICOLE CAN SPEAK FOR YOURSELF HERE IN A MINUTE AS TO HURT. SHE REALLY LED THE CHARGE ON THIS, SO WE'LL HAVE OUR SPEAKING PUBLIC HEARING IN THE SECOND. AS TO THE NUANCES THAT SHE'S LOOKING FOR. BUT THAT'S A WHOLE HOST OF OTHER ISSUES CAME UP AND WERE DEALT WITH. BUT AT THIS POINT, THIS IS THE PROPOSAL FOR YOU TO CONSIDER AND YOU CAN GO EITHER WAY ON IT.

HOWEVER YOU WANT. I JUST HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT YOUR WALKING TRAIL. YES, KEEP THE CUTBACKS.

SLIDER YOU MENTIONED PHASE TWO. WHAT BE DONE POSSIBLY LATER. IS THAT WALKING TRUMP GOING TO BE COMPLETED BEFORE PHASE TWO IS COMPLETE, OR IS THAT GOING TO JUST KIND OF DEAD IN THERE AND HELL? PHASE TWO IS COMPLETED. SO IT UM IT DOES GO INTO PHASE TWO AT THIS POINT. BUT I'M. THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION. I BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO BE DONE WITH PHASE ONE. OKAY, I WOULD THINK SO, BECAUSE THEY ANSWER ON THAT BECAUSE IT JUST IT FEELS LIKE IT'S YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THE RESIDENTS ARE THERE THAT IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE A COMPLETE INSTEAD OF WAITING ON PHASE TWO FOR YES, THERE'S ANY WAY FOR THAT TO HAPPEN. YES, I CONFERRED WITHOUT MY CLIENT. HE'S GOOD WITH DOING THAT PHASE ONE. THANK YOU. YOU'RE VERY WELCOME. MY OPINION IS WE HAVE TOO MUCH TRAFFIC ON CLEVELAND GIVES ALREADY. AND I CAN'T SEE PUTTING ANYTHING BUT SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. IF WE'RE GONNA GET RID OF THE COMMERCIAL, LET'S MAKE IT SINGLE FAMILY INSTEAD OF TOWN HOMES. YOU ALREADY GOT THE BEST OF THE DEAL. YOU ALREADY GOT HIGH DENSITY BY HAVING THE APARTMENTS NOW YOU'RE WANTING TO PUT MORE HIGH DENSITY IN SO WELL, I PERSONALLY DIDN'T ASK FOR THE APARTMENTS. THAT WASN'T PART OF MY, UM CASE. I DIDN'T WORK ON THAT ONE. BUT I AM WORKING ON THIS ONE. AND I WE WANTED TO PROPOSE A DIFFERENT HOUSING PRODUCT TO MEET SOME OF THE GOALS OF THE COMPLAINT OF DIVERSE HOUSING AND OUT OF ALL THE LOTS IN THE CANYON FALLS IN NORTHLAKE. THE TOWN HOMES ARE LESS THAN 10% OF THE TOTAL LOT COUNT. AND SO IT DOES CREATE JUST ANOTHER CHOICE FOR BUYERS WHO DON'T WANT THE 50 FT. YOU KNOW, 120 FT YARD OR THEY, YOU KNOW YOUNG PROFESSIONALS OR THE DUAL INCOME NO KIDS THAT WANT TO BE ABLE TO LIVE HERE. UM, BECAUSE HE'S WON'T BE. THIS WILL BE HIGH QUALITY TOWN HOME SO THAT YOU KNOW IT WILL HAVE TO WARRANT A CERTAIN LEVEL OF BEING ABLE TO AFFORD THOSE AND MORE MONEY FOR THE DEVELOPER. I DON'T KNOW THE DEAL THE FINANCIALS BEHIND IT. I'M NOT ABLE TO ANSWER THAT. I'M NOT THE DEVELOPER. BUT I DON'T I KNOW IT'S A GOOD LAND USE PRACTICE IN . YOU KNOW WHAT I'VE STUDIED IN MY 16 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE OF PROVIDING FOR A TRANSITION AND DENSITY SO THAT THERE ISN'T THIS ABRUPT CHANGE IN LAND USE PATTERNS, AND AS YOU'RE DRIVING ALONG THESE STREETS IT IT LOOKS ORGANIC AND NATURAL AS THE HOUSE IS KIND OF GET A LITTLE SMALLER AND THEN YOU'RE INTO THE URBAN CORE TOWN CENTER. AND YOU THINK YOU SAW IT ON THE HALF PLAN FOR YOUR COMPLAINT UPDATE WHERE YOUR TOWN CENTER MIGHT BE IN THE FUTURE IS IT BUILDS LIKE THAT AS YOU GET TO THOSE ALL THE COMMERCIAL CENTERS, UM AND YOU KNOW, FLOWER MOUND WILL DO SOMETHING SIMILAR TO WHAT HELL WOULD IS GOING TO DO AND THEN, EVENTUALLY THAT TOWN CENTER, SO I THINK IT'S VERY COMPATIBLE WITH WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE AREA. AND IT'S ALONG THIS GROWTH CORRIDOR WHERE WE WANT TO CONCENTRATE THE DENSITY SO THAT WE CAN PRESERVE OTHER AREAS OF THE TOWN. 16 YEARS AGO, I WAS ON THE COUNCIL. THAT HAD A VERY DIFFICULT DECISION, EVEN ALLOWING IT MAY NOT EXACTLY 16 YEARS AGO, BUT IT ONE POINT WE HAD A DIFFICULT DECISION TO SIGN THAT WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW CANYON FALLS TO EXIST. AND WE MADE THAT VOTE FOR THE IDEA. IT WOULD BE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, NOT TOWN HOMES. I PERSONALLY, YOU KNOW, WITH THE I AGREE WITH THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IF WE'RE GOING TO DO IT THAT WAY. MY CONCERN IS IF WE GO THE ROUTE OF TOWN HOMES AND WE ALLOW THAT. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE OF A BREAK VERSUS THEM, BUT IT UP. RIGHT BEHIND THE SINGLE FAMILY. MAYBE SOME GREEN SPACE TO GIVE THOSE I WOULD THINK THERE WOULD BE THE LEAST AS ARABLE. LOTS OF THAT PHASE ONE. IF I WERE TO PURCHASE IN THERE UM THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHTS ON THAT. YOU'RE TALKING

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ABOUT RIGHT HERE, WHERE THE WHERE PHASE ONE CONNECTS TO THE TOWN HOMES IN A SINGLE FAMILY.

IF WE DECIDE WE WANT TO GO WITH THOSE TOWN HOMES, THEN PERSONALLY, I DON'T I SEE THAT AS A DETRIMENT BUTTON UP BEHIND. TOWN HOMES, APARTMENTS. WHATEVER YOU WANT TO PUT BACK THERE, I WOULD RATHER HAVE SOME SPACE POWERS. POTENTIAL BUYER. I YEAH , AND THAT'S MY YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE'S PREFERENCE MIGHT BE THAT AS WELL. AND I THINK WHEN BUYERS COME IN SEEING THIS PD AND THE PLANS, THEN THEY'LL KNOW WHAT THEY'RE WHAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE THERE. UM IN THE FUTURE, SO I THINK IT PROVIDES THAT CERTAINTY. UH, BUT IT IT IS AGAIN JUST THAT TRANSITION THAT WE FEEL LIKE IT IS APPROPRIATE AND IT DOES HAPPEN, I THINK AGAIN THOSE OTHER PLANS THAT WERE ON THE SCREEN EARLIER. KIND OF HAVE THOSE ADJACENCY IS TOO AND, UM BUT THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING WE COULD LOOK AT. IF THERE'S ENOUGH DEPTH THERE AND, UM AND THE SINGLE FAMILY LOTS.

THEY MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT DEEPER. WE CAN. I THINK THEY MIGHT ALREADY BE DEEPER. SO, UM TO PROVIDE SOME MORE SEPARATION. DREW. HAVE WE HAD ANY TRAFFIC STUDIES? DONE YET. BECAUSE IF PEOPLE LIVE IN KANYE FALLS, THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO GET OUT ON THE CLEVELAND GIVES THEY MAY HAVE A LONG WAIT AT THEIR STOP SIGNS WITH 200 MORE HOMES GOING IN. UM I DON'T KNOW IF THIS FROM MEETS THE THRESHOLD 200 VERSUS THE 2000 THAT ARE THERE NOW, UM, SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT REQUIRED A TRAFFIC STUDY. UM I DO KNOW THE RETAIL WOULD CREATE A LOT MORE TRAFFIC THAN RESIDENTIAL WELL, THE OTHER THING TOO, IS I MEAN I DON'T KNOW. NOT SOUND CRASS OR NOT CARING, BUT PEOPLE BOUGHT HOMES. NEXT. TO OPEN LAND. THAT WAS ZONED FOR COMMERCIAL AND HIGH DENSITY HOUSING. NOW WE MOVE THE APARTMENTS TO PLACATE PEOPLE THAT KENYAN FALLS AND NOW THEY DON'T WANT TO HAVE THE COMMERCIAL NOW, EITHER. SO I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THERE IS SOME I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE WORD IS, BUT . WELL, YOU KNOW WHERE I'M GOING WITH IT. APPARENTLY. I MEAN, IT'S HOW MUCH MORE CAN WE DO? LIKE I SAID, WE'RE SQUEEZING COMMERCIAL OUT NOW FOR HIGH DENSITY AND LIKE I SAID 90, PLUS PERCENT OF PEOPLE IN NORTH LIKE SPEND THEIR MONEY ELSEWHERE. ALONG WITH THAT GOES TO SALES TAX DOLLARS, SO YOU KNOW, WE CAN KEEP PUTTING HIGH DENSITY HOUSING IN BUT WE'RE SQUEEZING THE RESIDENTS. THAT'S MY ONLY COMMENT REALLY ON THAT ONE. BUT I KNOW THE TRAFFIC ISSUE IS GOING TO BE AN ISSUE. WE DON'T EXPAND CLEVELAND GIBBS. TWO MORE THAN A ONE LANE IN EACH DIRECTION. IT'S GOING TO BE AN ISSUE. ESPECIALLY WITH COMMERCIAL GOING ON. THE WEST SIDE. IF THAT EVER HAPPENS. TRAFFIC IS GOING TO BE AN ISSUE. IT'S AN ISSUE NOW. IT'S GONNA GET WORSE WITH 200 ADDITIONAL HOMES. RESIDENTS OF CANYON FALLS HAVE A RIGHT TO WEIGH IN ON THIS, AND THEY HAVE VERY STRONGLY THAT THEY WANT TO RESIDENTIAL PROJECT THERE, SO AND COMMERCIAL IS GOING TO COME MORE COMMERCIAL IS GOING TO COME RIGHT NOW WE'RE GETTING MORE COMMERCIAL AND ROBSON IT'S WE'VE GOT HUNDREDS OF ACRES OF COMMERCIALS OWNED. WE'LL SEE IT HAPPEN WHEN IT HAPPENS. IT'S JUST NOT IN DEMAND YET, AND THIS CORNER IS NOT CONDUCIVE TO COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT YET. UM. BUT THEY DO NOT WANT TO SEE THE OVERHEAD LIGHTING. THEY DID NOT WANT TO SEE THE SIZE OF BUILDINGS THAT COME WITH COMMERCIAL OR THE TRAFFIC PATTERNS THAT COME WITH IT. THEY WERE PRETTY CLEAR THAT RESIDENTIAL PROJECT IS THE BEST FOR WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR NOW, AS FAR AS THE REST OF THE COMMENTS THOSE ARE THOSE ARE ALL LEGIT. UM WE'VE WORKED ON THE PERIMETERS, FENCING, THE LANDSCAPING, THE TRAIL PHASING THE DRAINAGE. ALL THOSE HAVE BEEN SATISFIED. IN TERMS OF THE CONCERNS. UM BUT AS FAR AS THE TOWN HOMES ARE CONCERNED, THAT'S THAT'S ALL FINE. TO PUT THAT FORWARD. ALRIGHT, SO I WANT TO GET A LITTLE MORE CLARITY ON SOMETHING HERE, THE CLUB COMMERCIAL COLLECTOR WROTE IS GOING TO CONTINUE EAST. AND CONNECT TO WHAT EXISTING ROAD DO WE HAVE A LITTLE BIGGER MAP AT ALL. TO THAT IN GREEK, WHICH PASSES BY THE ELEMENTARY YES, BIGGER, ARIEL. YEAH. SO. ONE QUESTION. THERE WE GO. ALRIGHT SO PUT YOUR PUT YOUR MOUTH ON THAT SCREEN. OKAY, SO DIDN'T DIDN'T CREEK WHICH IS RIGHT HERE. IS GOING RIGHT AWAY IS BEING ACQUIRED BY THE TOWN AND BEING ACTUALLY GIVEN BY OUR CLIENT ACROSS GRAND BRANCH, AND IT'S GOING TO COME UP WITH AN S

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CURVE AND THEN TIE INTO THIS OLD REST STOP. EVENTUALLY YOU KNOW, BEING EXTENDED OVER INTO NORTH LAKE. THIS COLLECTOR THAT'S COMING FROM MULKEY. THERE'S ANOTHER INTERCHANGE HERE, SO WE ARE VERY BLESSED TO BE ABLE TO HAVE TWO INTERCHANGES ALONG THIS STRETCH OF 35 W. THAT'S GREAT FOR THE AREA AND THEN SO THIS INTERCHANGE IS GOING TO COME HERE. THIS COLLECTOR 90 FT RIGHT AWAY WILL SWOOP UP. AND INTERSECT WITH DIDN'T CREAK AS IT MAKES ITS WAY, EAST OR WEST.

AND SO AGAIN, THE PARALLEL ROAD WILL ALSO BE THERE AT SOME POINT , TYING UP HERE TO AVALON AND ARGYLE, UM AND THEN ALL THE WAY DOWN TO CLEVELAND GIBBS TO PROVIDE THAT NORTH SOUTH CIRCULATION. THANK YOU. AND DREW WAS THERE AT THE REST STOP IS VERY HIGHWAY ACCESS AT THE OLD REST STOP. PLANNED. IN THE FUTURE. YES, IT'S CALLED. AND DOUBLE IT. BRIDGE SYSTEM.

THERE'LL BE ONE EXIT RANT THAT MORE. MHM CATCH BOTH THESE BRIDGES AND THEN THERE'LL BE ONE ENTRY RAMP WHERE YOU GET OFF IN THIS VICE VERSA ON EACH SIDE. AND THAT'S PART OF THAT WILL BE PART OF THE FRONTAGE ROAD, THE 35 W FRONTAGE ROAD PROJECT. THE REASON I ASK IS, OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE TO MANAGE TRAFFIC BETTER IN THIS AREA AND THOSE CONNECTORS ACROSS THE FLOODPLAIN IN THE RECIPE INVOLVES A LEAVE ALLEVIATE SOME OF THAT, UM, THIS COUNCIL HAS AN ENTITLED NAME MAJOR ACCOUNT OF HOMES ANYWHERE IN SIX YEARS. SO THAT THAT'S PRETTY IMPRESSIVE. AND ITS OWN REGARD. HOWEVER I CAN ALSO NOT ASKED THESE EXISTING PROPERTY UNIVERSE TO PUT A BOX STORE OR STORAGE UNIT IN THEIR BACKYARD BECAUSE THE WORST CASE SCENARIO BEFORE WAS AN APARTMENT, WHICH I THINK IS PROBABLY MORE ACCEPTABLE THAN A BOX STORE OR COMMERCIAL BUILDING IN THEIR BACKYARD. UM SO IN TERMS OF THAT , I FEEL THAT PAIN AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. AH! ALSO WHEN TRANSITIONING BETWEEN, YOU KNOW 50 FT LOTS AND COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS. NOT A FAN OF TOWN HOMES, BUT THEY MAKE A LITTLE BIT OF SENSE THERE, AND SOME ACCOMMODATIONS HAVE BEEN GIVEN AS WE MENTIONED BEFORE. AND THAT ROAD CONNECTIVITY. WHAT IS THE INTENTION ON CONNECTING THAT COMMERCIAL? COLLECTOR TO THE REST. OF ANYTHING, AT LEAST TO GET OUT ONE MORE PLACE AND THE REST OF KENYAN FALLS. THE TIMING OF THAT VERSUS THE TIMING OF THE BUILD. YOU SAID THEY'RE REQUIRING SOME RIGHT AWAY ALREADY AND BRINGING THOSE TWO HOOKS TOGETHER, SO THERE'S ANOTHER OUTFLOW. WHAT IS THE TIME? THAT BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO SEE HAPPEN IS ALL OF THESE THINGS GO ONLINE, AND THEY STILL ONLY HAVE ONE WAY OUT. RIGHT? UM SO THE DIDN'T CREEK BRIDGE RIGHT HERE, UM, AGAIN RIGHT AWAY. BEING ACQUIRED NOW FAR AMOUNT WILL AH, ACCORDING TO THEIR TOWN MANAGER'S OFFICE. I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO LET THE CONTRACT AT THE BEGINNING OF 24 TO BUILD THIS BRIDGE. UM THE REST OF THE DENTON CREEK, WHICH IS 120 FT, RIGHT AWAY IS ON THEIR SIPPY. I FORGET EXACTLY HOW MUCH IT'S LISTED FOR, BUT THEY'RE VERY AGGRESSIVELY.

FINDING A WAY TO I THINK THERE IT MIGHT ALREADY BE FUNDED. I'D HAVE TO CHECK THAT AGAIN, BUT FAR AMOUNTS TRYING TO MOVE THIS FORWARD AS QUICK AS THEY CAN TO BE ABLE TO PARTNERSHIP WITH THE COUNTY. OKAY OKAY. YEAH THE COUNTY'S CONTRIBUTING PART OF 08. TRIPLE EIGHT AS WELL. YEAH.

SO THIS THIS DIDN'T CREATE COULD HAPPEN WITHIN THE NEXT I WANT TO SAY. TWO YEARS. TWO YEARS, OKAY ? AND THEN, UM, THE FRONTAGE ROADS, I THINK I THINK THE CITY MANAGER PROBABLY HAS A BETTER IDEA OF THE TIMING THERE. UM, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S ALWAYS CHANGING. BUT THAT COMMERCIAL THAT WE'RE SHOWING THE 15 ACRES THERE WOULDN'T COME ONLINE UNTIL THE FRONT OF DRUGS WERE THERE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY ACCESS TODAY. UM SO THAT WON'T BE PART OF THE TRUCK CONTRIBUTING TO THE TRAFFIC. UM AND THEN THE TIMING OF OUR PROJECT. UM WE HAVE WE STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH PRELIMINARY PLANNING AND ALL THE CIVIL PLANS AND FINAL PLATT. UM SO WE BELIEVE WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO TURN DIRT OUT HERE UNTIL MID TO LATE. 24 AND INFRASTRUCTURE PROBABLY WILL TAKE ANOTHER YEAR AT THAT. BUT NO ONE WILL. WE DON'T BELIEVE PEOPLE LIVE OUT HERE UNTIL MID 25. SO ABOUT TWO YEARS AND THEN IF YOU GO BACK TO THE MAP, WE'RE ON PREVIOUSLY REAL QUICK. THAT ONE'S FINE NORTH OF THAT. YOU BRIEFLY MENTIONED WHAT FLOWER AMOUNT WAS DOING IN THAT NEXT PROPERTY RIGHT ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE FLOODPLAIN LINE. YES SIR. WHAT IS WHAT IS PLANNED AND OR APPROVED THERE RIGHT NOW. SO WHAT IS APPROVED AND IS NOT CHANGING, UM, IS THAT THIS IS.

NON RESIDENTIAL CAMPUS COMMERCIAL USES. UM. MY CLIENT. SORRY WHAT WAS THAT? I WAS JUST

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GOING TO SAY NON CAMPUS AND NON COMMERCIAL USAGE FOR THE PUBLIC . CAN YOU GIVE AN EXAMPLE OR TWO THAT? YES, IT COULD BE, UM, A MEDICAL OFFICE. IT COULD BE BIG BOX RETAIL. IT COULD BE, UM ANOTHER SERIES OF RETAIL, UM BUILDINGS, RESTAURANTS OR OTHER TYPES OF COMMERCIAL USES. UM WE HAVE LOOKED AT THERE'S BEEN A DESIRE FOR A HOSPITAL IN THE AREA. UM NOT THAT THIS IS ENOUGH JUST RIGHT HERE. BUT THE LARGER MIXED USE PART OF IT MIGHT BE CONDUCIVE FOR HOSPITAL. SO WE THINK THERE COULD BE SOME MEDICAL SYNERGY OVER HERE ON THIS SIDE OF 35 W. UM AND THEN, UM, IT ALSO ALLOWS FOR SOME QUICK SERVICE RESTAURANTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. OKAY. I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO REALIZE WHAT WE'RE A BUDDING NEXT TO WITH ANY POTENTIAL DECISION WE MAKE. I UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU MET WITH THE RESIDENTS, UM THEY DON'T WANT COMMERCIAL RIGHT THERE. BUT WHAT WAS THEIR OPINION ABOUT TOWN HOMES SPECIFICALLY. THEY ALL SAW THEM AND WEIGHED IN ME. NICOLE CAN CAN WEIGH IN ON HER OPINION ON HIM. NO ONE EXPRESSED ANYTHING TO ME AND THE 40 OR SO PEOPLE THAT I TALKED TO AT THE MEETINGS AND THEN INDIVIDUAL CONVERSATIONS. NO ONE EXPRESSED ANYTHING ABOUT THEM. HONESTLY, EITHER ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. JUST THAT RESIDENTIAL IS PREFERABLE AND THE FOCUS WAS ON THE DURING EACH OF THE WALL. THE EASTMAN'S THAT WAS REALLY THE BUFFER WAS THEIR NUMBER ONE CONCERN. SO AS THE YOU KNOW. PLANNER AND DEVELOPER. IF COUNSEL DECLINES THIS TONIGHT. WHAT IS YOUR INTENTIONS MOVING FORWARD? I'D LIKE TO GET COUNCIL NEEDS TO KNOW. WHAT THE POSSIBILITIES ARE . OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE ENTITLED FOR COMMERCIAL TODAY, SO. CAN WE GET ANYBODY AWAY IN ON THAT SO COUNCIL CAN MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS. SO. I BELIEVE THERE IS A VERY TIGHT TIME FRAME TO GET THIS ENTITLED. AND IF CENTURION AMERICAN ISN'T ABLE TO DO THAT, I DON'T BELIEVE THEIR PLAN IS TO MOVE FORWARD. SORRY.

I BELIEVE THEIR PLAN IS TO NOT MOVE FORWARD. SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? LEAVE IT VACANT, IT WOULD RETAIN THE OWNERSHIP IT HAS TODAY, AND WE'RE NOT HANG ON. SO NASH CANYON FALLS OWNS THIS.

THIS IS PART OF THE CANYON FALLS DEVELOPMENT NASH CANYON FALLS IS SELLING THIS PORTION TO CENTURION AMERICAN TO DEVELOP WITH MCADAMS. THIS IS A SEPARATE ENTITY THEY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH CANYON FALLS IN THE PAST. UM BUT THE NASH WOULD GO BACK TO THEIR ORIGINAL PLAN AND LOOK FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPERS TO DEVELOP THIS IN THE COMMERCIAL AS THEY'RE ALLOWED TO. THAT'S THE QUESTION I HAVE. THANK YOU AS I UNDERSTOOD WHAT YOU JUST SAID COMMERCIAL WOULD BE FINE NORTH OF THE FLOODPLAIN WHERE THE TAX DOLLARS WOULD GO TO FLOWER MOUND, BUT IT WOULDN'T BE OKAY WHERE THE TOWN HOMES ARE WHERE IT WOULD GO TO NORTH LAKE . SO WHAT WE HAVE ON THE NORTH SIDE IS INTERSECTION WITH WHAT DIDN'T CREAK AND THIS COLLECTOR CREATES FOR SOME SYNERGY THERE, BUT IT IS PLANNED TO BE MIXED USE, SO IT WILL INCLUDE A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL, UM, MIX DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, SO SINGLE FAMILY AND MULTI FAMILY ON THAT NORTH SIDE OF REALLY KIND OF THIS BLACK LINE THAT REPRESENTS THE PROPERTY LINE. UM, THE UN'S OWN LAND. SORRY. THIS BLACK LINE.

THE ANNE'S OWN LAND NORTH OF THAT, UM, IS WHAT A PROPOSAL IS GOING TO BE MADE SOON FOR MIXED JUICE THAT WILL INCLUDE A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL, BUT IT IT IS A COHESIVELY PLANNED KIND OF MASTER PLAN OF THIS IS ABOUT 200 ACRES COMBINED. UM AND IF IT'S ALL INTEGRATED, AND SO BECAUSE WE'RE ABLE TO GET THE RESIDENTIAL THAT WE NEED THERE WERE ABLE TO PROVIDE FOR THE RETAIL AS WELL. HAS THERE BEEN A THOUGHT GIVEN I KNOW WE MET HIM ON SOME OF THIS STUFF, BUT I WANT TO THROW US OUT THERE FOR COUNCIL TO REPLACE THE TOWN HOMES COMMERCIAL AND MAKE A LITTLE BIT LARGER COMMERCIAL AREA SO WE DON'T LOSE ALL THE COMMERCIAL TAX BASE AND SERVICES THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, AND STILL USE THE 50 FT LOTS AS THAT BUFFER BECAUSE WHEN PEOPLE ARE BUYING INTO THIS NEW PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO, THEY'LL KNOW THE PD. THEY'LL KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GETTING INTO. SO I JUST WONDER IF THAT HAD BEEN EXPLORED SHOT DOWN JUST WHERE THE THOUGHT PROCESS HAS BEEN. ON ON THOSE WEATHER NOW, TOM TOWN HOMES SO WE. WE'VE LOOKED AT, YOU KNOW, JUST THE NATURE OF, UM THE COMMERCIAL AND ACCESS IN THIS AREA. AND. IT WASN'T CONDUCIVE TO PUT COMMERCIAL THERE BECAUSE OF THE LIMITED AMOUNT OF ACCESS . AND WHEN YOU GET TOO DEEP, IT

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MAKES COMMERCIAL REALLY HARD ALONG THE HIGHWAY CORRIDOR. UM YOU KNOW, AGAIN ON THE NORTH SIDE, IT'S MUCH LARGER MASS OF LAND WERE ABLE TO PLAN IT ALL OUT TOGETHER AS ONE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF INTEGRATED PLAN HERE. WE WERE ON A MICRO SCALE OF THIS 58 ACRES TRYING TO PLAN HOW THAT WORKS SO PROPORTIONATELY. IT'S PROBABLY ABOUT THE SAME WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO LAND USE FOR WHAT'S COMMERCIAL. LET'S RESIDENTIAL WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT AS A WHOLE. I MEAN, UNFORTUNATELY, NOT PROPORTIONAL TO US, BECAUSE IN TERMS OF COMMERCIAL TAX BASE, I THINK THAT'S WHAT COUNSEL IS GETTING OUT THERE RIGHT NOW. WE HAVEN'T 50 ACRES OF COMMERCIAL AND TAKING THAT DOWN TO SEVEN ACRES OR 8 10 ACRES OF COMMERCIAL IS PART OF THE HEARTBURN OF COUNCIL. I BELIEVE SO I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF THERE'S GOING TO BE MIXED USE TO THE NORTH AND MORE COMMERCIAL TO NORTH IF THAT WOULD FIT IN THERE. MY GUT SAYS IT MIGHT FIT IN THERE, BUT I'M NOT A PLANNER NOR DEVELOPER. YEAH, I THINK AGAIN. IT'S WHAT IS THE DEMAND TODAY ARE THIS IS THE YOU KNOW THE DIRECTION THAT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH TO GET THIS GETTING THE KIND OF THE CRITICAL MASS BUILT UP SO THAT SOME OF THE OTHER COMMERCIAL THIS COULD BE REALIZED IN THE FUTURE, SO IT SOUNDS LIKE OUR OPTION IS TAKEN OR LEAVE. IT IS THAT I DON'T WANT TO PUT IT THAT WAY. BUT IT'S WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE. IF YOU DON'T GET YOUR WAY, THEN YOU WALK AWAY FROM IT. I HAVEN'T. I HAVEN'T. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S THE CASE. NO, SIR. I WOULD LIKE TO DEFER TO MY CLIENT BEFORE I WOULD RECOMMEND HER SUGGEST THAT YOU STATED YOUR BELIEF WAS THAT THIS DIDN'T HAPPEN. THEY WALK AWAY FROM IT. SO TO ME, THAT'S THIS IS IT? OR NOTHING. IF WE DID NOT GET THE ZONING. YES, SIR. THAT'S HOW MANY HOMES YOU NEED TO MAKE IT VIABLE. TO MAKE THE THIS THIS BIBLE VIABLE. HOW MANY HOMES DO YOU NEED IN THAT AREA? UM, I. 101 50 WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU THAT NUMBER. I DON'T DO THE PERFORMANCE TO MAKE TO MAKE IT PENCIL. THAT'S NOT MY ROLE. UM, I COULD ASK CENTURION TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. BUT MY ROLE IS TO YEAH. YOU KNOW WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT MIXED USE, UM YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE IN AN URBAN AREA , YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TIGHTER LAND USE. UH GROUP TOGETHER BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO GO UP IN VERTICAL RIGHT HERE. THIS THIS WE'RE NOT READY FOR THAT YET. AS TIME GOES ON, AND WE'RE GONE, THIS COULD BE REDEVELOPED INTO SOMETHING. I MEAN, THAT'S WHERE THE COMMERCIALS AND THINGS LIKE THAT INTO SOME HIGHER STORIES IF IT'S WARRANTED BY THE MARKET. RIGHT HERE. THIS IS WHAT THE MARKET IS SAYING IS NECESSARY AND WHAT IT COULD BE SUPPORTED TODAY. IF WE DON'T DO THIS, THEN MAYBE IN A DECADE. THE COMMERCIAL COULD BE REALIZED, BUT IT'S NOT READY TODAY. WELL, IF YOU WALK AWAY FROM IT, SOMEBODY ELSE WILL EVENTUALLY DEVELOP IT. AND THEY'RE GONNA HAVE THE SAME. HURDLE TO JUMP OVER. RIGHT NOW.

WE ARE FOR PAPERWORK. WE'RE MAXED OUT ON RESIDENTIAL. SO WHOEVER DEVELOPS THIS PROPERTY WILL HAVE THE SAME HURDLE TO CROSS. AND, UH, I JUST DON'T LIKE TO GIVE AWAY 80% OR 90% OF OUR COMMERCIAL. USE. FOR MORE HIGH DENSITY. COMMERCIAL TEXT DOLLARS WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE COMING IN. BUT SO I MEAN, THAT'S I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MORE CAN EXPAND ON THAT. BUT I JUST CAN'T SEE THE ADDED TRAFFIC WITH 200 MORE HOMES IN THAT AREA WITHOUT THE ROAD BEING AT LEAST EXPANDED. I JUST DON'T SEE IT HAPPENING. SO WE WOULD WITH THE ROAD TRAFFIC THAT IS GOING TO BE TRIGGERED FROM HERE. IF UM. WE WOULD HAVE HAVE TO DO ALL THE STUDIES AND WE WOULD COMPLY WITH THE PROPORTIONALITY REQUIREMENTS. OF THIS, YOU KNOW, THE STATE OF TEXAS. SO IF WE HAVE TO, UM, YOU KNOW BUILD THESE TWO LANES. OF COURSE WE WILL. BUT IF IT DOES, THAT STUDY COMES BACK AND SAYS, HEY, THERE NEEDS TO BE ANOTHER TURN LANE SOMEWHERE. UM THEN, IF IT'S A REQUIREMENT ARE WE ARE DEVELOPER WOULD ABSOLUTELY DO THAT SO THAT IT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE TRAFFIC WHAT'S EXPECTED IN THE AREA IN ACCORDANCE WITH REGULATIONS. SO I THINK WITH WITH TRAFFIC IF WE CAN TRUST THAT WHEN WE GET THE T I A PREPARED WHEN WE DO THE PLAT THE PRIMARY PLOT IN THE FINAL PLOT AND WHAT THOSE RESULTS COME BACK AND SAY, UM, EVEN IF YOU KNOW IF SOMETHING LIKE THAT IS REQUIRED , THEN WE WOULD HAVE, WE WOULD HAVE TO DO IT AND I THINK TURNING MOVEMENTS REALLY DO HELP. OPEN UP CAPACITY TURN LANES CAN BE PROVIDED. THAT DOES HELP. UM ALLEVIATING SOME CONGESTION. DO WE HAVE A TIMELINE ON THE NEW BRIDGE, WHICH IS PART OF THE FURNITURE, ROAD IMPROVEMENTS JUST ROUGHLY GUYS. YOU'RE IN THAT SAME MEETING, WEREN'T YOU? WE HAD THE FUNDING RIGHT? IT WAS OVER 100 MILLION IN AND THEY SAID IT WAS

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SET. UM. I KNOW THEY'RE IN NEGOTIATIONS WITH MAJOR PROPERTY OWNERS AND 35 W AH, SO THAT'S A GOOD STEP. THEN THERE'S PROBABLY A YEAR FOR UTILITY WROTE RELOCATION. MAYBE. TWO YEAR.

CONSTRUCTION PERIOD. SO MAYBE 43 TO 4 YEARS. 28 ISH. YEAH. ALRIGHT WE'VE GOT ENOUGH ON THE TABLE. SO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANNA TELL US OR YOU GOOD? I'M GOOD. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO PUBLIC HEARING AND DEFERRING TO ARE TALKING TO MY CLIENT. WELL OKAY, I'LL THROW THIS OUT. AH YOU'VE HEARD THAT THE TOWN HOMES CREATE SOME SOME ANGST FOR A FEW OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS. AH IF YOUR PROJECT WOULD BE VIABLE AS ALL SINGLE FAMILY. THEN LET US KNOW. ALSO ONCE WE HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING, I'LL GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO RESPOND IF YOU WANT A MINUTE. UM BUT AT THAT POINT, WE'RE EITHER GOING TO TAKE A VOTE AT WHICH POINT IT'S SOME PERIOD BEFORE YOU CAN RESUBMIT UNLESS YOU CHANGE IT SUBSTANTIALLY OR IT CAN BE TABLED TO THE FUTURE AND YOU CAN MAKE SOME MODIFICATIONS BASED ON THE FEEDBACK, SO I'LL GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO DECIDE WHICH DIRECTION YOU WANT TO GO AFTER WE HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. 7 56. PM. OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM. I HAVE ONE CARD. NICOLE, YOU WANT TO COME ON DOWN? GIVE US YOUR THOUGHTS. GOOD EVENING. I AM RESIDENT IN CANNONBALLS AND OUR OUR HOME IS ONE OF THE VERY MUCH AFFECTED HOMES IN THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. I FIRST WANT TO SAY, I BELIEVE IT'S MR GANZ. I DON'T MEAN TO BE DISRESPECTFUL IN ANY WAY. BUT WHEN WE PURCHASED OUR HOMES, WE WERE GIVEN VERY CLEAR PROMISES FROM THE DEVELOPER WHO OWNED THE WHOLE PROPERTY THAT THERE WOULD BE A 50 FT NATURAL BARRIER BERM TREES AND THAT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT WOULD NOT LOOK LIKE BIG LIGHTS SHINING IN HER BACKYARD. IT IS FRANKLY DISRESPECTFUL FOR YOU TO MAKE THE COMMENT THAT WE ARE ASKING FOR MORE THAN WHAT WE WERE ORIGINALLY PROMISED. I HAVE PROOF THAT WE PAID THE DEVELOPER EXTRA MONEY FOR OUR LOT BECAUSE THAT WAS WHAT WAS WHAT WAS TOLD TO US, AND IT WASN'T PAID TO THE BUILDER. IT WAS A PASS THROUGH AMOUNT THAT WAS PAID DIRECTLY TO THE DEVELOPER THAT WE HAD TO PAY. SEPARATELY IN A SEPARATE CHECK. NO ONE HELPED THEM TO ANY OF THAT. WE'RE HERE WHERE WE'RE AT. BUT IT IS DISRESPECTFUL TO THINK THAT WE HAVE RESIDENTS ARE JUST CONTINUING TO ASK FOR MORE AND MORE AND MORE. WE JUST WANT TO QUALITY OF LIFE. WE WANT AT LEAST A PART OF WHAT WAS PROMISED TO US. WE BELIEVE ANY GOOD COMPROMISE IS GOING TO HAVE SOME GIVE ON EACH SIDE. AT THIS POINT WE KNOW SOMETHING IS GOING THERE. IT'S EITHER. WE PARTICIPATE ACTIVELY, AND IT'S GOOD FOR EVERYONE INVOLVED OR SOMETHING IS GOING TO GO THERE AND WE'RE MOST OF US ARE GOING TO PUT OUR HOUSES FOR SALE AND LEAVE. UM I'M A TEACHER IN THE DISTRICT. NO OFFENSE. YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO LOSE ANY MORE TEACHERS. UM, REALITY IS. THEY HAVE DONE EVERYTHING THEY PROMISED. THEY HAVE COME TO US. THEY HAVE ACCEPTED WHAT WE'VE REQUESTED. THEY HAVE UNDERSTOOD THAT WE HAVE BEEN LIED TO. THEY HAVE UNDERSTOOD THAT WE'VE BEEN TREATED VERY POORLY BY THE PREVIOUS DEVELOPER. THEY HAVE UNDERSTOOD THAT THE TOPOGRAPHY HAS BEEN CHANGED WITHOUT PEOPLE BEING MADE AWARE OF THAT. THAT THE DEVELOPER DID SOME VERY AGREE GIS THINGS TO GET THEIR MONEY AND RUN. THEY HAVE NOT BEHAVED THAT WAY AT ALL. THEY PUT EVERYTHING IN WRITING. THEY'VE MET WITH US TRIED TO MAKE THIS AS AMICABLE FOR EVERYONE IS POSSIBLE. WE ARE JUST ASKING THAT WE BEGIN. SYDOR DID IN THE FACT THAT WHAT WERE ORIGINALLY TOLD IS SO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN WHERE WE'RE AT. THEIR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE BEHIND US. THAT'S PROBABLY THE BEST CASE SCENARIO FOR US. WE'RE NOT TRYING TO BE DIFFICULT BY ANY NAMES. BUT THIS WAS NOT THE WAY IT WAS SOLD TO US WHEN WE BOUGHT OUR HOMES, AND WE ACTUALLY DO HAVE PROOF OF THAT. WE CAN'T MAKE NULAND DO WHAT WAS RIGHT AT THIS POINT. SO WE HAVE TO WORK WITH WHAT WE HAVE. AND AT THIS POINT I DO BELIEVE THAT THESE GUYS ARE REALLY TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY TAKE CARE OF US THE BEST THEY CAN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. PUBLIC HEARINGS OPEN. ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK? I COMPLETELY EMPATHIZE WITH WHAT

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SHE'S TALKING ABOUT, BECAUSE IT'S VERY DEVELOPER CENTURION AMERICAN CAME INTO NORTH LIKE MANY YEARS AGO AND ATTEMPTED TO DEVELOPMENT AND. WE DID NOT ALSO, GET WHAT WE WERE PROMISED.

JUST SO YOU KNOW. WHAT I'M ABOUT TO STATE IS BASED ON MY OWN EXPERIENCES AND OBVIOUSLY MY OWN OPINION, MUCH OF WHICH CAN BE VERIFIED WITH PUBLIC AND OR LEGAL DOCUMENTS. I URGE YOU NOT TO DO BUSINESS WITH CENTURION, AMERICAN AND FORMER DOD MORE YETI. FIRST OF ALL, PLEASE GOOGLE THE LAWSUITS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS DEVELOPER GOOGLE. THE NUMBER OF. DIFFERENT NAMES THAT THEY WORK UNDER. LOOK INTO THE LAWSUITS WITH REGARD TO VILLAGES OF WOODLAND SPRINGS. THE DEVELOPER ALLEGEDLY CLEAR, CUT THE TREES AND FLOODED THE ADJACENT LANDOWNERS. LANDOWNERS SUED. THEY FOUND OUT THAT THEY WERE PROPOSING A DEVELOPMENT IN NORTH LAKE AND THEY CAME TO THE NORTH LAKE COUNCIL AND THEY BASICALLY TESTIFIED AND WARNED THE COUNCIL NOT TO EVER DO BUSINESS WITH CENTURION AMERICAN OR MORE DOT MORE YETI. WHEN NORTHRIDGE ESTATES WAS PROPOSED INITIALLY ON A NAPKIN. DRAWING UM, MURDERED. MY EDDIE CAME TO THE TOWN AND PROPOSED THIS DEVELOPMENT AND, UH, THEN LATER PROCEEDED TO SUE THE TOWN OF NORTH LAKE AND THE ADJACENT LANDOWNERS, WHICH WERE ME AND MY HUSBAND. WE WERE IN A SEVEN YEAR PROTRACTED LEGAL BATTLE WITH CENTURION AMERICAN AND MURDERED MY YETI. WHICH WE PREVAILED IN. UM, BUT IT WAS SEVEN YEARS OF OUR LIFE. HE ALSO SUED THE CITY SO YOU CAN ASK YOUR STAFF WITH THE LEGAL FEES WERE FOR WHEN MURDERED. MORE. YETI SUED THE TOWN OF NORTH LAKE. UM ARGUE, URGE YOU TO TALK TO OTHER COUNCILS. I HAVE FRIENDS ON OTHER COUNCILS IN TOWNS WHERE CENTURION AMERICAN AND MADONNA MORE YETI HAS DONE BUSINESS AND I URGE YOU TO TALK TO THOSE COUNCILS BECAUSE THEY CAN TELL YOU THAT ALL THE PROMISES THAT WERE MADE THAT WERE NOT FOLLOWED THROUGH WITH TOWN OF WEST LAKE HAS A BIG DEVELOPMENT IN TOWN OF WEST LAKE. TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND. UH UM. AND WEAVER ELSE HE HAS DEVELOPMENTS. UM. IF YOU TURN THIS DOWN, AND THEY WALK, THAT'S PROBABLY THE BEST THING THAT COULD HAPPEN TO NORTHLAKE. HONESTLY AND IF YOU DECIDE THAT YOU WANT TO APPROVE IT, URGE YOU TO PUT SOME PUNITIVE LANGUAGE IN YOUR LEGAL DOCUMENTS WITH REGARD TO THEIR PROMISES THAT THEY DO NOT FULFILL. LOOKING AT JUST THE PRESENTATION TODAY. I HAVE SURMISED THAT THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY 7.26 HOMES PER ACRE. IS THAT CORRECT? MA'AM, IS THAT CORRECT? OVERALL DENSITY 7.2 600 PER ACRE. I CALCULATED 50 BY 1 20, WHICH IS WHAT YOU TOLD ME THE LOCKS WORK. DIVIDE THAT BY THE 43 5 60, WHICH IS AN ACRE AND YOU GET SOME 0.26. LISTEN. IF THAT'S NOT CORRECT.

NO, YOU CAN DO THE MATH. DR SESSIONS. YOU'RE GREAT AT THAT. YOU CAN DO THE MATH ON THOSE 6000 SQUARE FOOT. LOT WILL BE 7.26 HOMES PER ACRE. I COULD GO ON, BUT I'M BEING ASKED TO WRAP THIS UP. SO I URGE YOU TO DENY THIS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. ALL RIGHT. STAGE NAME FOR THE RECORD SINCE THEN, OBVIOUSLY JOEL MCGREGOR, 89 21 EC FAMILY LINE. UM I MAY HAVE MISSED SOMETHING, BUT THE PEOPLE WERE PROMISED THINGS IF. THIS DEVELOPMENT IS DENIED IN ST STICKS WITH COMMERCIAL WITH THOSE PROMISES BE REQUIRED OF THE COMMERCIAL, THE BUFFER ZONE AND THINGS THAT YOU WERE ASKING FOR. THAT THAT'S JUST I DIDN'T HEAR AN ANSWER TO THAT. THEY'RE NOT WRITTEN ANYWHERE. THEY'RE NOT IN ANY CONTRACT, SO THEY'RE UNENFORCEABLE. OKAY? OKAY? YOU COULD APPROVE OR DENY A DEVELOPMENT BASED YOU COULD INTEGRATE THEIR PROMISES INTO AN APPROVAL, OR IS IT ALREADY APPROVED, APPROVED AS PART OF THE MASTER PLAN FOR KENYAN FALLS, SO IT HAS TO FOLLOW THE REQUIREMENTS AND THAT P D FOR COMMERCIAL ZONE, WHICH DOESN'T INCLUDE ANY OF THOSE THINGS THAT PROMISE, OKAY? ALL RIGHT. ANYONE ELSE? NO OKAY. ALL RIGHT, THEN WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 85 P. M. DO YOU HAVE ANY DIRECTION FOR US AS TO WHAT YOU

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WANT US TO DO OTHERWISE. UH YOU DON'T WANT TO TALK TO US YOUR NAMES. OURSELVES. OKAY I'D LIKE TO GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION ACTUALLY ON THIS ITEM. OKAY? UM SO PURSUANT TO SECTION WHAT

[6. EXECUTIVE SESSION (Part 1 of 2)]

SECTION? IS IT? UH, 551-71. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL TRY TO BE BRIEF. LET'S GET LET'S GIVE IT 5 10 MINUTES AND WE'LL COME BACK AND RECONVENE. I'LL TAKE YOUR DIRECTION AND THEN WE'LL MAKE A DECISION ON THIS ACTION ITEM. UM . SORRY WHAT WAS THE SECTION NUMBER 1071 UNDER

[7. RECONVENE INTO OPEN SESSION (Part 1 of 2)]

[5.C. Consider an Ordinance of the Town of Northlake, Texas, to amend the Canyon Falls Mixed-Use Planned Development (MPD) Zoning, Ordinance No. 15-0326, to revise the boundaries of the zoning district, the development plan and certain development standards for that certain 58.094-acre tract of land located west of Cleveland-Gibbs Road and I H 35W and approximately 700 feet north of Westbridge Drive. NASH Canyon Falls LLC is the owner. Centurion American is the applicant/developer. McAdams is the planner. Case # PD-23-002 (Part 2 of 2)]

IT'S 8. 30 PM WE'VE RETURNED FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION TAKE BACK UP THE ITEM. WE STEPPED OUT TO DISCUSS THE APPLICANT HAVE ANY GUIDANCE FORCES TO ANY FURTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE MAKE A DECISION? LISTEN HE CAN'T BE HERE. HE HAD TO STEP OUT, OKAY? WE'VE UNEXPECTEDLY. YEAH. I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS STUFF WORKS. LET'S GO TO THE LAYOFF. SO CAN THEY. CAN'T DO WHAT PUSHED THEM OUT OVER HERE. ALSO JUST FOR THE RECORD. CAN YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF, PLEASE? YES I'M JACK DAWSON. SINCE YOU'RE AN AMERICAN 1800 VALLEY VIEW FARMERS BRANCH SOME 5234. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THAT. YOU CAN HAVE WHAT WE'RE WELL, WE'D LIKE TO CHANGE SLASH PROPOSED IS ON BOTH SIDES OF RIGHT THERE AND RIGHT THERE DO ANOTHER, THE THREE ACRES PER SIDE OF COMMERCIAL SO THAT SHOULD GET YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY. THEN YOU GOT FOUR HARD CORNERS. OF COMMERCIAL. NOW, IF THAT IS.

IF WE DO THAT, WE'D OBVIOUSLY LOSE TOWN OWNS BUT KEEPING TOWN HOMES THERE. IS THAT OKAY OR NOT ? COUNCIL MEMBERS. YOU GOT 34. THREES IS NOW SO YOU'D HAVE COMMERCIAL AND FOUR CORNERS SHOULD HAVE A HANDFUL OF TOWN HOMES BEHIND AND THEN YOU'D STILL HAVE THE 50 FT LOT SINGLE FAMILY, THOSE THAT WERE OPPOSED TO TOWN HOMES. CAN YOU WEIGH IN ON THAT? UM.

UM AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED. I DON'T LIVE THERE, BUT I'M GONNA TRUST THE RESIDENTS THAT DO LIVE THERE. AND THAT SPOKE ABOUT IT THAT THEY'RE OKAY WITH THAT. I DO AGREE. I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. ESPECIALLY THAT BACK UP. MAYBE SOME SPACE IN BETWEEN THOSE TOWN HOMES AND THOSE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. WITH THE COMMERCIAL. THANK YOU, SIR.

I WOULD 40 FT RIGHT WHERE SHE'S GOT THE MOUSE WITH 40 FT LOTS. WORK FOR YOU FOR COUNCIL. BE A DETACHED PRODUCT INSTEAD OF AN ATTACHED PRODUCT HAVE FIVE FOOTS OR EACH, EACH ARM WOULD HAVE A 5 FT SIDE YARD SEAT UP 10 FT. IN BETWEEN. EACH DWELLING. NO NO, IT WOULD BE FIVE AND FIVE. DR.

SESSIONS. COULD YOU HEAR MAG GOING? I THINK OUR PROBLEM MIGHT BE THAT THE TOWN HALLS BACK UP TO THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. AND THOSE PEOPLE PROBABLY DIDN'T BUY . THOSE AREN'T GONNA BUY THOSE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. BUT THEY ARE THE OTHERS ARE GOING TO BE A TOWN HOME. BUT I HAD HIM AND YOU CAN TELL ME THAT YOU'LL TELL THEM BUT, UM YEAH. SO WHAT? 40 40 FT LOTS THERE. SO WE WERE YEARS, SIR. YES, IT WOULD. SO LET ME CLARIFY YOUR PROPOSAL. IS THE 40 FT LOTS IN COMBINATION WITH THE ADDITIONAL COMMERCIAL OR JUST A FULL ON SWAN. NO WE'LL STILL DO THE COMMERCIAL BECAUSE OKAY, SO CAN WE. CAN YOU PUT YOUR MOUSE ON THE ROUGH? I KNOW YOU HAVE TO DRAW THIS. I KNOW YOU HAVE SKETCHES, BUT IT ROUGHLY THE VERTICAL ROADWAY. OKAY WHERE THE TOWN HOMES SPLIT RIGHT HERE. THE LEFT SIDE OF MY MOUTH WOULD BE COMMERCIAL. THE RIGHT SIDE WOULD BE THE FORTIES AND THEN THIS LINE WOULD EXTEND DOWN. PROBABLY RIGHT HERE. THIS WOULD BE ABOUT THREE ACRES OF

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COMMERCIAL AND THEN FROM THIS POINT TO THE EAST WOULD BE FORTIES. OKAY SO I ASSUME COUNCIL WOULD AGREE WITH THIS. OBVIOUSLY IF YOU'RE GOING TO PROPOSE THAT DOES THAT GIVE YOU ENOUGH TIME IF WE HAVE TO PUSH THIS ONE MEETING TO GET WE HAVE TO SEE A DRAWING, RIGHT? I MEAN, THAT'S JUST GONNA HAVE TO HAPPEN. SO OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN'T DO THAT TONIGHT. YOU CAN'T DO IT ON BAR NAPKINS. NOBODY'S GONNA ACCEPT THAT. SO IS THAT REASONABLE EXPECTATION FOR YOU GUYS TO BRING THAT AT THE NEXT COUNCIL IF WE DECIDE TO TABLE THIS I KNOW YOU SAID YOU'RE UNDER A TIMEFRAME, BUT I WANNA BE RESPECTFUL AND ASK. I THINK THE CHALLENGES BEING UNDER THIS TIMEFRAME BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN HELD. WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO HIT THIS SCHEDULE IF WE GO INTO OCTOBER. I THINK IT'S THE TIMEFRAME IS LOST AT THAT POINT. I THINK I DON'T KNOW IF THE DEAL IS BUT, UM WE CAN DRAW IT THAT QUICKLY AND THAT THE DESIGN TEAM CAN DEFINITELY PUT THE MATERIALS TOGETHER WITHIN THAT TIME FRAME . IT'S JUST THE NATURE OF THE DEAL BETWEEN OUR CLIENT AND THE LANDOWNER. STAFF. FOR OUR LEGAL HOW WOULD YOU SUGGEST PROCEEDING IF WE'RE AMICABLE TO THIS BECAUSE THAT'S A LOT OF QUESTION MARKS. BEFORE WE GO THERE, SO I APOLOGIZE. A LITTLE BIT OF WRINKLE HERE. BUT THE FOUR HARD CORNERS. SOUNDS GOOD, EXCEPT WHEN YOU GO INSERT ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER. I'D PREFER YOU KEEP THAT RESIDENTIAL DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE REST OF THE COUNCIL BUT LIKE DETACHED PRODUCT, BUT THAT WRAP AROUND WITH THE I DON'T WANT TO CUT OUT THAT THEN WRAPS THE TRAIL AROUND A SERVICE STATION OR SOMETHING IN THAT CORNER. JUST DOESN'T IT DOESN'T GO WELL, YOU YOU GET THE SAME ADJACENCY PROBLEMS WITH THE LAST ROW OF SINGLE FAMILY, AND THEN HE GOT COMMERCIAL RIGHT BEHIND HIM. SO I LIKE TO COMMERCIAL ACROSS THE STREET ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER, WHICH IS REALLY GOOD IMPROVEMENT. BUT ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER, I DON'T I'D PREFER IF THAT THAT BLOCK JUST BECAME THE DETACHED PRODUCT YOU TALKED ABOUT ACROSS THAT TOP SECTION. LET ME SEE IF I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THERE. SO ALL THAT BECOMES ALL FORTIES? YES THE SOUTHERN TOWN HOMES BECOME FORTIES. YES, NORTH SIDE. MAKE THAT THREE ACRES RIGHT THERE AND THEN THE REST FORTIES AND JUST JUST DON'T PUT IT. DIRECTLY ATTACHED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PUT THE ROAD IN THERE. OR YOUR SEPARATION. WHATEVER YOU NEED TO DO. YEAH.

OKAY? OKAY, SO. AND ANYBODY ELSE WEIGH IN IF YOU OPPOSE THAT, BUT I DON'T. I DON'T LIKE BAD ADJACENT SEASON THAT JUST SETS UP A BAD ADJACENCY IN MY MIND. THEY DO THIS A LOT IN OKLAHOMA CITY, AND I JUST GOT JUST HOUSES BACKED UP TO SERVICE STATIONS AND RETAIL STRIP MALLS. AND IT JUST IT LOOKS TERRIBLE AND IT HURTS PROPERTY VALUES. KEEP IT ACROSS THE STREET THAT SAID, NOW FOR YOUR TIMING ISSUE. WE I DO NOT WANT TO ACT ON SOMETHING THIS EVENING. BASED ON JUST A POINT IN THIS IS WHAT IT MIGHT LOOK LIKE. YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO DRAFT THIS AND BRING THE EXHIBIT BACK. YOU CAN DO THAT IN TWO WEEKS IF YOU WANT, BUT THAT'S OUR NEXT MEETING. SO I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW YOUR SCHEDULE AND YOUR AGREEMENT, BUT THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WE CAN ACT ON. AND TONIGHT. I MEAN, I CAN FIGURE SOMETHING OUT FOR THE TWO WEEKS BUT. AND WE CAN DO WHAT WE SAID.

BUT IT IS THAT ALL THE COMMENTS. IF WE DID HAVE ONE MORE COMMENT. IN THE P D. WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE PROTECTION FOR THE EXISTING RESIDENTS. AND THIS IS NOT A BIG ASK. THAT THE APPROVAL WOULD BE CONDITIONAL. UPON THE ACQUISITION OF THE EASEMENT. OKAY? AND THEN THE CONSTRUCTION OF SAID WALL ALONG THOSE EASEMENTS BEFORE BUILDING PERMITS WOULD BE ISSUED. I THINK THAT'S A REASONABLE REQUEST THAT IT WOULD TYPICALLY BE BUILT IN THAT ORDER, ANYWAYS, PART OF LACK OF BETTER TERMS. UH, SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION CITY ACCEPTANCE. WHATEVER YOU CALL IT HERE IN NORTH LAKE. IS THAT HOW I UNDERSTOOD COUNCIL SEGMENT ONE. IS PHASE ONE SEGMENT. TO IN PHASE TWO CAN GO TOGETHER SO YOU DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO GET SEGMENT TO ALL FIGURED OUT. BUT YOU DO HAVE TO BEFORE PHASE TWO. THAT WOULD BE THE BECAUSE IRONSTONE MIGHT HAVE A DIFFERENT CONVERSATION WITH YOU. BUT THE SEGMENT ONE ALIGNED ALIGNED WITH PHASE ONE. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT OUR CONSTRUCTION PLANS I WOULD BE CALLING PHASE ONE, WHICH WOULD TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE THIS SECTION ONE OR THE RED FENCE. AND THEN WHEN WE GOT READY TO DO THE FACE TO

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THOSE CONSTRUCTION PLANS WITH. THAT GREEN. THAT'S RIGHT. SO YOU NEED A PAPER THAT WITH WITH STAFF TO BRING BACK FOR CONSIDERATION. COUNCIL MEMBERS, CAN YOU CAN YOU WEIGH IN AS TO WOULD YOU BE RELATIVELY GOOD WITH THAT DESIGN? CONDITIONAL UPON SEEING IT? THIS IS JUST A VERBAL. IT'S NOT A PROMISE. IT'S NOT A VOTE. YEAH I AGREE WITH THAT, ESPECIALLY MOVING THE COMMERCIAL ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET AND LEAVING IT RESIDENTIAL. SO YES. I CONCUR.

OKAY? BRINGING SOMETHING. TWO WEEKS. I WOULD ALSO ADD ONE MORE THING. I'M SORRY. JUST I THINK YOU HAVE ALREADY SHOWN IT IN DRAWINGS. MAKE NOTE OF THE EARTH WORK TO BE TAKEN OUT BECAUSE THAT'S BEEN THE BIGGEST CONCERN WAS THAT ELEVATION YOU'VE SHOWN IT IN SECTION THAT'S GREAT, JUST ADDED NARRATIVE IN THERE OR SOMETHING THAT AFFECT THIS WAY? NO, BUT I THINK THE RESIDENTS WILL FEEL PROTECTED. I THINK STAFF ARE COUNCIL FEEL A LITTLE BIT MORE. BUT EVERYTHING YOU SEE YOU SEEM THAT CONSENSUS HERE, RIGHT? I THINK THAT CROSS SECTION DID A GOOD EXAMPLE OF WHAT OUR INTENTION IS, UM NOT MIGHT NEED TO PUT SOME PLUS OR MINUSES ON THERE, SO WE DON'T HAVE THE EXACT THINGS LIKE 0.00 . WHATEVER BUT YES, WE'LL BE FINE WITH THAT. THANK YOU.

CORRECTION I'D LIKE TO MAKE THAT THAT RANDY MISSPOKE WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE EXTRA EASEMENT IN THE BACKYARDS. 3 FT IS, YOU KNOW THEY'RE ON THE IS THAT RED SEGMENT ONE. THEY ALREADY HAVE A 3 FT. ALL THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR US. ANOTHER 2 TO 3 FT. TEMPORARY. CONSTRUCTION IS WHAT SHE JUST SAID. YOU KNOW, 2 TO 3 FT EASEMENT, IT WOULD BE TEMPORARY. SO AS SOON AS IT'S DONE. THAT TEMPORARY GOES AWAY. AND THEN IT'S JUST LEFT WITH THE 3 FT THAT THEY ALL HAVE RIGHT NOW. SO YOU NEED A 3 FT WALL MAINTENANCE EASEMENT. SO WHY DO WE NEED TO KNOW I'M AWARE, BUT NOW I'M POINTING OUT THE FACT THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR A 5 FT WALL MAINTENANCE HE'S BEEN FROM IRONSTONE IS 3 FT. SUFFICIENT 3 FT SUFFICIENT. OKAY BUT I WILL NEED A TOTAL OF 5 FT. TO BUILD TO BUILD IT SO THAT 5 FT GOES AWAY. AND IT JUST GOES TO THE 3. FT. ALL RIGHT, YOU HAVE SOME WORK TO DO TO GET, YOU KNOW, ALIGNMENT ACROSS ALL THOSE PEOPLE, BUT I THINK YOU HAVE GOTTEN A LOT OF SUPPORT FROM THEM FOR THIS. SO UM, YOU KNOW, GOOD LUCK ON THAT. BUT THIS NEEDS TO BE PAPERED UP AND BROUGHT BACK BEFORE WE CAN ACT ON IT. YES, SIR. ALRIGHT THEN.

WELL, THANK YOU. THANKS FOR YOUR TIME. TAKE A MOTION TO TABLE UNTIL OCTOBER, 12TH MOTION.

MANAGE MOTION BY THE MAYOR PRETEND THE TABLE TILL OCTOBER 12TH. SECONDED BY MYSELF. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THAT GO AHEAD AND VOTE. YOU VOTED. YOU VOTED. WE CAN'T GET ROBERT. OKAY, THERE WE GO. THANK YOU. GOOD NIGHT, ALL RIGHT. IT IS 8 42. PM. WE'VE WE'VE NOT CONCLUDED. WE GOT ONE

[5.D. Consider an Ordinance of the Town of Northlake, Texas, amending the Adopted Budget for Fiscal Year October 1, 2022, through September 30, 2023; providing that expenditure for the said fiscal year shall be made in accordance with the said Amended Budget]

MORE, DON'T WE? YES SIR. ALL RIGHT, TAKE IT AWAY. D ALRIGHT, BUT, YEAH, MARY COUNCIL. I'M BRINGING YOU OUR INTERVIEW. BUDGET AMENDMENT CLEAN UP. THIS IS IN SUMMARY, A CLEANUP AMENDMENTS. OF ALL THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE THROUGHOUT THE FISCAL YEAR. THIS IS A TYPICAL PRACTICE IN MANY MUNICIPALITIES. I'M NOT ACTUALLY ASKING YOU FOR MORE SPENDING AUTHORITY. WHAT I'M DOING IS ACTUALLY TRAINING UP BASED ON THE DECISIONS WE HAVE MADE OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS. AND SO THE TOTAL BUDGET MAN I'M PROPOSING IS $1.5 MILLION. UM MOST OF THE REASON THESE ARE COMING FORWARD IS BECAUSE EXPENSE TIMING SO WE AGREE TO THINGS IN PRIOR YEARS AND THEY'RE NOW COMING FORWARD. GOOD EXAMPLE OF THIS IS VEHICLES. ANOTHER ONE IS ASSET REPLACEMENTS. SO WE HAVE TO LIKE VEHICLES WE NEED TO REPLACE EARLIER THAN NEEDED AND THEN CHANGES IN ACCOUNTING. THERE'S A $1.6 MILLION WASH TRANSFER. THAT'S A PART OF THIS, AND THAT'S JUST AN ACCOUNTING PRINCIPLE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO IMPLEMENT. MOVING SOMETHING FROM THE DEBT SERVICE TO THE UTILITY FUNDS. I'M GONNA TRY TO GO THROUGH THIS VERY QUICKLY. SO THE GENERAL FUND REMAINING BY $600,000 500 THOUSANDS FOR CATHERINE BRANCH PHASE ONE ANOTHER 100 THOUSANDS FOR SD NUMBER ONE EACH. ONE OF THESE ITEMS I'M GOING TO LIST ARE DIFFERENT AGREEMENTS AND THINGS THAT HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN BROUGHT FORWARD A COUNCIL BEFORE AND AGREED UPON. THIS IS JUST ADDING ENTRIES OF THESE NUMBERS AND PUTTING IN THIS FISCAL YEAR BUDGET. THE REASON WHY WE DON'T ROLL ENCUMBRANCES LIKE YOU SEE OTHER CITIES DO IS BECAUSE ENCUMBRANCES SHOULD REALLY ONLY LAST 90 DAYS. BASED ON STANDARD ACCOUNTING PRINCIPLES, SO I DON'T ROLL AUTHORITY FROM PRIOR YEAR TO THIS YEAR. THAT'S WHY YOU'RE NOT SEEING THIS. THAT'S

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WHY I DO IT. A BUDGET AMENDMENT AND I TRY TO DO IT ONCE A YEAR, SO THAT THERE'S NOT A BUNCH OF MESSINESS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR THAT OUR AUDITOR HAS TO LOOK AT. UM NEXT ONE IS HOTEL ENTRYWAY, SIGNAGE DESIGN THAT'S OUT A HOTEL OCCUPANCY FUNDS, ONE OF THE FEW ALLOWABLE USES, SO IT'S A GOOD USE THAT SAVES GENERAL FUND DOLLARS. $500,000 FOR CATHERINE BRANCH. PHASE ONE THEY'VE HALF OF THIS IS ALREADY BUDGETED, SO THIS IS THE OTHER HALF OF IT FROM THE PRIOR YEAR.

ANOTHER $100,000 ACROSS BOTH FUNDS FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CONSULTING. THIS HAS TO DO WITH THE CHADWICK FARMS PLAN, AND THE OTHER HALF OF THIS IS ACTUALLY PAID FOR BY THE DEVELOPER. THE POLICE ASSET FORFEITURE FUND. WE SPENT $25,000 REPLACING PANASONIC LAPTOPS WITHIN THE PATROL VEHICLES. AND SO THAT WAS A VERY GOOD USE OF THESE FUNDS. AND AGAIN. THIS IS A LIMITED FUND. AND SO EVERY DOLLAR WE SPEND HERE STAGE GENERAL FUND MONEY DOLLARS. UM, TECHNOLOGY.

WE HAD SEVERAL REPLACEMENTS MIDWAY THROUGH THIS YEAR. THIS WAS CONSOLIDATING ALL OF OUR SERVERS ON T TWO NEW SERVERS. SO THIS TAKES CARE OF US. ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT WAS LEADING TO THIS WAS ALL THE VIDEOS THAT WERE TAKEN IN FROM THE POLICE WAS OVERWHELMING IT AND SO THIS GETS US ONTO TWO SERVERS THAT WILL SERVE US FOR MANY, MANY YEARS TO COME. AND SO THOSE WERE SPONTANEOUS PURCHASE, BUT WE DID IT EARLIER THIS YEAR. EQUIPMENT. WE HAD TWO TAHOE'S FROM THE PRIOR YEAR THAT ARE ROLLING ONTO THIS YEAR SO WE COULDN'T GET VEHICLES IN. WE FINALLY DID.

THOSE ARE THOSE TWO REPLACEMENTS. WE HAD TWO UTILITY TRUCKS THAT KIND OF MESSED UP THIS YEAR. AND SO WE'RE REPLACING THOSE EARLIER THAN ANTICIPATED THAT WAS ACTUALLY APPROVED THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING. UM SO I TALKED REALLY FAST, BUT IT'S ABOUT $1.5 MILLION IN EXPENDITURES AND NOT ASKING YOU FOR ANY FUNDS THAT YOU HAVEN'T APPROVED BEFORE.

THIS IS JUST THE CLEANUP ITEM. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I'M HERE. MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND BY THE MAYOR. PRO TEM QUESTIONS, COMMENTS CONCERNS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ACCOUNTING SERVICES. LET'S VOTE. YOU GOT ROBERT YEP. ALRIGHT THERE IT IS SIX AND, UH, WITH

[6. EXECUTIVE SESSION (Part 2 of 2)]

ONE ABSENCE. ALRIGHT IT IS 8:46 P.M. PURSUANT TO SECTIONS 551.071 THAT'S 07 TO CONVENE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS THE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA. UM, WE HAVE POSSIBILITY OF COMING BACK INTO OPEN SESSION. DO WE EXPECT TO KNOW? OKAY EXPECTING THEM TO HAVE ANY

[7. RECONVENE INTO OPEN SESSION (Part 2 of 2)]

IT IS 9 39 PM WE RETURNED FROM THE EXECUTIVE SESSION AND NO ACTION TO TAKE TONIGHT

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.