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TOWARDS COUNCIL OR TOWARDS THE TOWN, WE CAN REPLACE YOU AND WE WILL SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE,
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PEOPLE HERE. GOOD EVENING. WELCOME TO NORTH LAKE TOWN COUNCIL MEETING JULY 25TH, 5:30 P.M, WE HAVE TWO COUNCILORS MISSING TONIGHT. MAYOR PRO TEM LORENZ AND MR. FOWLER.OTHERWISE, WE HAVE A QUORUM. AND TO GET STARTED TONIGHT, WE'LL START WITH OUR INVOCATION. I DID, HOW ARE YOU DOING TONIGHT, SIR? GOOD WELL, THANKS FOR COMING IN. GOOD TO SEE ALL OF YOU. I WANT TO SHARE THE VERSE OF THE DAY FIRST BEFORE WE GO INTO PRAYER. AND JESUS SAYS IN, IN MATTHEW 516, IN THE SAME WAY, LET YOUR GOOD DEEDS SHINE OUT FOR ALL TO SEE, SO THAT EVERYONE WILL PRAISE YOUR HEAVENLY FATHER. SO WE PRAY, LORD GOD, WE ARE HERE BECAUSE YOU HAVE BLESSED US WITH THE HEALTH, THE STAMINA TO STAND HERE, TO BE HERE, TO GATHER HERE. LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR THE FREEDOMS THAT YOU HAVE BROUGHT TO THIS COUNTRY AND YOU HAVE BROUGHT TO THE WONDERFUL TOWN OF NORTH LAKE. WE PRAY THAT EVERYTHING THAT IS SAID AND DONE AND ACCOMPLISHED TONIGHT WOULD BE DONE TO BRING YOU GLORY AND FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PEOPLE OF THIS, THIS TOWN AND THE SURROUNDING AREAS. LORD, I THANK YOU FOR THE MAYOR, FOR THE COUNCILORS, FOR THE STAFF, THE FIRST RESPONDERS AND ALL THE WONDERFUL CITIZENS OF NORTH LAKE LORD, BE WITH THOSE WHO ARE BEING HONORED TODAY, BE WITH THOSE WHO ARE PRESENTING TODAY. GIVE EVERYONE THE WORDS TO SPEAK AND THE WISDOM WITH WHICH TO SHARE THOSE WORDS. WE LIFT UP THIS EVENING TO YOU, LORD, AND PRAY IT IN JESUS NAME. AMEN AMEN, AMEN. THANK YOU. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. TO THE FLAG AND THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE, CRIME. OF OUR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO TEXAS STATE. GOD INDIVISIBLE. THANK YOU. WE HAVE, A COUPLE BRIEFING ITEMS TONIGHT, AND THE
[2.A. Presentation - Sergeant Cody Leinweber Badge Pinning]
FIRST WILL BE A PRESENTATION FOR SERGEANT CODY. AND I'M GOING TO MISPRONOUNCE YOUR LINE MEMBER.THANK YOU. DREW, FOR BADGE PINNING, CHIEF. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MAYOR. AND COUNCIL, WE HAVE A NEW ADDITION TO OUR OUR TEAM. I'M GOING TO READ THIS OFF, I AM PLEASED TO INTRODUCE CODY LYNN WEBER, WHO HAS JOINED US AS A VALUABLE ADDITION TO OUR DEPARTMENT. SERGEANT LYNN WEBER COMES TO US WITH A WEALTH OF EXPERIENCE, KNOWLEDGE AND SKILLS THAT WILL GREATLY BENEFIT OUR TEAM. SERGEANT LYNN WEBER HAS SERVED OVER 15 YEARS IN LAW ENFORCEMENT IN DENTON AND TARRANT COUNTY. HIS DEDICATION TO THE PROFESSION HAS CONSISTENTLY YIELDED COMMENDABLE RESULTS MAKE HIM A STANDOUT IN HIS FIELD. IN HIS NEW ROLE, SERGEANT LYNN WEBER WILL BE AN INTEGRAL PART OF OUR SUPERVISORY STAFF, FOCUSING ON LEADING AND TRAINING AND TEACHING OUR LESS EXPERIENCED OFFICERS. SERGEANT LYNN WEBER HAS AN ADVANCED PEACE OFFICER CERTIFICATION AS A POLICE INSTRUCTOR AND ADVANCED FIELD TRAINING OFFICER, AND IS A GRADUATE OF THE INSTITUTE OF LAW ENFORCEMENT ADMINISTRATION AND SCHOOL OF POLICE SUPERVISION. WE LOOK FORWARD TO HIS CONTRIBUTIONS AND WISH HIM GREAT SUCCESS IN HIS NEW ROLE. PLEASE HELP ME IN JOINING AND WELCOMING SERGEANT CODY LYNN WEBER AND HIS WIFE. TRISH IS GOING TO COME UP HERE, PLEASE. BACHELOR.
PRESSURES ON THOMAS. YEAH. THOSE UNIFORMS ARE TOUGH. SOMETIMES I LIKE THE ONES. EVERY SINGLE ONE.
OOPS WE'LL GET TO THE CHIEF MAYOR.
ONE MORE OFFICER. WE NEED ABOUT SIX MORE. CHIEF THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL COMING TONIGHT. I
[2.B. Briefing - Weather Alert Systems - Denton County Emergency Services District #1]
APPRECIATE THAT. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A BRIEFING FROM, CAPTAIN CHIEF RICKY VAUGHN, FOR WEATHER ALERT SYSTEMS. THIS WAS BROUGHT UP BY SOME COUNCILORS PREVIOUSLY, AND HE'S GOING TO SHARE WITH US A FEW POINTS OF TOPICS ON THIS EVENING. MAYOR, COUNCIL. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME, I WAS, ASKED BY, THE TOWN MANAGER AND THE MAYOR TO KIND OF PROVIDE A BRIEF OVERVIEW, HIGH[00:05:05]
LEVEL VIEW OF WHAT WEATHER ALERT SYSTEMS THE CITIZENS OF NORTHLAKE CURRENTLY HAVE. AND WHAT MAYBE YOU DON'T HAVE. TALK ABOUT THE PROS AND CONS, JUST AS A DISCLAIMER, I'M NOT ADVOCATING ANY PARTICULAR SYSTEM. THERE ARE PROS AND CONS FOR EACH. I DO HAVE NEARLY 30 YEARS OF, OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT EXPERIENCE, MY MASTER'S DEGREE IS IN PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION WITH A CONCENTRATION AND DISASTER AND EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. SO I'M WELL EXPERIENCED AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE CITIZENS ARE ADEQUATELY COVERED. AS FAR AS THE ALERT SYSTEMS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR TOWN. BUT THERE'S ALWAYS ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT. SO I UNDERSTAND THE TOWN HAS DONE SOME STUDIES AND I HAVE NOT SEEN THOSE STUDIES, BUT I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF GIVE A HIGH LEVEL VIEW OF WHAT ARE CURRENTLY OUT THERE, AS FAR AS SYSTEMS. ALL RIGHT. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ALERT SYSTEMS, WE ALWAYS THINK OF LIKE WEATHER OR TORNADO ALERT SYSTEMS. BUT THERE ARE MANY DIFFERENT TYPES, AND AS YOU CAN SEE IN SOME OF THE PHOTOS, THEY CAN BE FROM FLOODS, WILD LANDS, OBVIOUSLY THEY COULD BE USED FOR COVID AND OTHER TYPE OF DISASTERS. IF YOU'LL NOTE IN THE TOP RIGHT PICTURE, THAT WAS THE LITTLE GUSTNADO WE HAD ABOUT A YEAR AGO IN NORTHLAKE. SO JUST KIND OF PUT THAT IN PERSPECTIVE. BUT I'M ALSO I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE PROS AND CONS OF EACH.I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE SYSTEM THAT WE USE AT DENTON COUNTY ESD ONE, WHICH IS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT NORTHLAKE PD AND THE TOWN OF NORTHLAKE USES. AND THEN I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT JUST SOME TRENDS AND RECOMMENDATIONS. I'M GOING TO START OUT WITH MORE TRADITIONAL, WHAT YOU'RE MORE FAMILIAR WITH, THE OUTDOOR WARNING SIRENS IS PROBABLY THE MOST TRADITIONAL, SYSTEM WE THINK OF, AND WE THINK OF THE TORNADO WARNING. SIRENS, THEY EVOLVED FROM CIVIL DEFENSE SIRENS AND PRIOR TO THAT, IT WAS CHURCH BELLS. THAT WAS WHAT EVERYBODY USED. AND I THINK PRIOR TO THAT, I THINK IT WAS LANTERNS. WHEN YOU THINK OF PAUL REVERE AND HE WAS GOING DOWN THE STREETS, THAT'S KIND OF HOW THIS EVOLVED. AND SO THEY WERE VERY POPULAR DURING WORLD WAR TWO, THEY COME IN VARIOUS TYPES, SOUNDS AND COST, THE SMALLER ONES RANGE ANYWHERE FROM 5 TO $10,000 A PIECE, AND THEY GO ALL THE WAY UP TO ANYWHERE FROM 40 TO $50,000 A PIECE. SO THEY'RE QUITE EXPENSIVE. THEY ARE DIRECTIONAL, THEY CAN GO ANYWHERE FROM A MILE TO TWO AND A HALF MILES, AND THEY CAN BE STRATEGICALLY LOCATED. THE PROS ARE BASICALLY THEY'RE VERY LOUD.
THEY'RE VERY DISTINCT. THEY WILL CATCH YOUR ATTENTION. THEY'RE MADE FOR OUTDOORS. THEY'RE VERY SIMPLE. SO EVEN IF YOU'RE HARD OF HEARING YOU AND YOU'RE OUT WITH OTHER PEOPLE, YOU WILL SEE THEIR REACTIONS. SO THERE ARE SOME ADVANTAGES THERE TYPICALLY. AND I SAY TYPICALLY BECAUSE THIS IS NOT ALWAYS THE CASE, THEY'RE TYPICALLY SELF-RELIANT. MOST TIMES YOU'LL SEE THEM WITH SOLAR PANELS AND BATTERIES, THEY ARE TYPICALLY REMOTE CONTROLLED, SO THEY'RE NOT RELIANT ON OTHER TECHNOLOGIES, BUT THEY ARE ADVANCING. YOU'RE STARTING TO SEE SOME NOW THAT ARE INTEGRATING SMART TECHNOLOGIES, WHEN I WAS IN MY LAST, WHERE I WORKED FOR THE CITY OF CARROLLTON, THE ONES WE HAD, YOU COULD ACTIVATE OFF YOUR SMARTPHONE, AND IT HAD AN IP ADDRESS, AND YOU COULD. SO THEY'RE GETTING WHERE YOU CAN SPLIT UP BY QUADRANT. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS YOU CAN DO TO TARGET IT. SO IT HAS ADVANCED, BUT IT IS QUITE EXPENSIVE. AS NOTED IN THE CONS IT IS COMPARATIVELY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE OTHER SYSTEMS OUT THERE, MOST OF WHICH ARE FREE, IT IS VERY EXPENSIVE. IT TYPICALLY AUDIO WITH NO MESSAGES. I SAY TYPICALLY BECAUSE THERE ARE SYSTEMS THAT WILL DO SOME MESSAGING TRYING TO SAY SHORT, WORDING, BUT FOR THE MOST PART IT'S JUST THE AUDIBLE SOUND. THE BIGGEST MISCONCEPTION IS THAT PEOPLE THINK THESE ARE FOR INDOORS. THEY ARE NOT. THEY'RE SPECIFICALLY CALLED OUTDOOR WARNING SYSTEMS. THEY WERE DESIGNED TO ALERT THOSE THAT WERE OUTSIDE AND HAD THEM GO INSIDE TO GET MORE INFORMATION, SO THAT'S ONE OF THE MISCONCEPTIONS. WHEN THEY HAD A TORNADO RECENTLY IN VALLEY VIEW, THEY WERE OUT TRYING TO FIX THE BROKEN SIREN. BUT THE REALITY IS THAT'S NOT DESIGNED TO ALERT PEOPLE IN THEIR HOME. YES, WE OFTEN HEAR THEM IN OUR HOME, BUT THAT'S NOT THE INTENT. THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY'RE DESIGNED TO DO, THEY ARE EXPOSED TO WEATHER AND VANDALISM. YOU KNOW, WITH THE RECENT HAIL WE'VE HAD, I GUARANTEE THOSE PANELS, SOLAR PANELS ARE GOING TO GET DAMAGED. THEY DO GET VANDALIZED AS WELL. THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE YOU'LL HAVE IS TESTING. AND MAINTENANCE. WE HAD OVER 30 OF THEM IN CARROLLTON. AND YOU HAVE TO PHYSICALLY ONCE A MONTH, HAVE SOMEONE, 30 PEOPLE GO OUT AND PHYSICALLY WATCH THESE THINGS TURN AND MAKE NOISE AND THEN REPORT BACK AND THEN REPORT ALL THE MAINTENANCE GOES ON WITH THAT. THEY DO PROVIDE A FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY, AND THEY HAVE A VERY LIMITED POWER WHEN THEY'RE RELYING JUST ON THEIR BATTERIES. THE NEXT SYSTEM IS PROBABLY CAME AROUND THE 19 5960S AREA WAS WHAT WE WHAT WE KNEW AS THE EMERGENCY BROADCAST SYSTEM, IT'S ALSO NOW IT'S CALLED THE EMERGENCY ALERT SYSTEM. THIS IS WHAT I ALWAYS INTERRUPT. YOUR FAVORITE TV SHOW. IT COMES ACROSS, AND WE'RE VERY, VERY USED TO GROWING UP WITH THAT ENVIRONMENT AND THAT WAS THE IDEA. THE OUTDOOR WARNING SIGN WOULD WOULD ALERT EVERYBODY. THEY WOULD GO INSIDE, TURN ON TV, AND THEY WOULD FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING ON. SO THAT WAS KIND OF THE BEFORE WE GOT INTO ALL THE SMART DEVICES. THAT WAS KIND OF THE INTENT, MOST OF THESE ALERTS COME FROM THE NATIONAL, WEATHER SERVICE, THEY ARE THE MOST COMMON INDOOR, THEY WERE THE VERY FIRST ONE TO USE AUDIO VISUAL, VIDEO AND TEXT. SO THAT WAS PRETTY AMAZING. YOU HAD TELEVISION COMING ABOUT TV SHOWS WERE COMING ON. IT WAS A GREAT SYSTEM. THE DOWNSIDE IS YOU HAVE TO HAVE YOUR TV ON. YOU HAVE TO HAVE YOUR RADIO ON. AND WITH TRADITION OF PEOPLE WATCHING TV AND LISTENING TO RADIO DECLINE, LESS PEOPLE YOU KNOW ARE NOT THERE ON DEMAND. THEY'RE NOT REALLY WATCHING LIVE TV AS MUCH
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AS THEY USED TO. THE MOST STABLE ONE, AND PROBABLY THE ONE THAT I WE ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY FOR WEATHER ENTHUSIASTS PARTICULARLY, IS THE NATIONAL OCEANIC ATMOSPHERIC AND ADMINISTRATION WEATHER RADIO. THAT IS THE I DO HAVE ONE OF THOSE LOOKS KIND OF LIKE THE YELLOW ONE UP TOP. IT'S RED BECAUSE I'M A FIREFIGHTER, YOU KNOW, RED. SO BUT THEY ARE VERY, VERY RELIABLE. THEY ARE VERY SELF-SUFFICIENT. THEY HAVE THE ONES THEY CAN CRANK. SO THEY EVEN HAVE TO HAVE BATTERIES FOR THEM. AND SO, WE DO ENCOURAGE. BUT THE REALITY IS MOST IT IS PROBABLY THE LEAST POPULAR, IT'S PROBABLY MORE COMMON AMONG OUTDOORS, SURVIVALIST OR WEATHER ENTHUSIASTS. BUT THE REALITY IS, EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE SOME PORTABLE RADIOS, THEY'RE NOT VERY COMMON. THEY'RE NOT VERY, GOOD FOR DAILY ACTIVITIES. THIS IS PROBABLY THE LATEST, GREATEST. THIS IS WHAT FEMA CREATED. IT IS FREE. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO ENROLL INTO IT. THE WEATHER ALERT SYSTEM, WHICH IS PART OF A BIGGER SYSTEM NATIONWIDE, THIS IS WHAT GIVES YOU THAT AMBER ALERT IN THE MIDDLE OF NIGHT. THIS IS THE THINGS THAT THEY CAN DO.PRESIDENTIAL ALERTS. THEY CAN DO IS FREE. IT IS NOT TIED TO YOUR CELL PHONE. IT'S NOT. IT'S NOT A MESSAGE. IF YOU LOOK AT A PICTURE THAT IS NOT A TEXT MESSAGE, THAT IS A MESSAGE COMING ACROSS YOUR YOUR SMART DEVICE, THEY ARE CUSTOMIZABLE. AND THEY ARE GEOGRAPHICALLY SPECIFIC IN OTHER WORDS, IT PINGS OFF THE CELL TOWER WHERE YOU ARE. SO IT KNOWS IT'S PINGING YOU WHERE YOU ARE BASED ON YOUR CLOSEST CELL TOWER, THERE IS WHAT WE WHAT THEY CALL BLEED OVER. SO BLEED OVER IS IF YOU'RE WITHIN FIVE MILES OF THAT RANGE, YOU COULD BE OUTSIDE THE POLYGON OR THE WEATHER, TORNADO WARNING. BUT YOU COULD CATCH IT BECAUSE YOU'RE WITHIN THAT FIVE MILE RADIUS. SO SOMETIMES THAT HAPPENS. SO PROBABLY ONE OF THE COMMON COMPLAINTS WE GET, THE OTHER COMPLAINT WE GET IS THESE ARE CUSTOMIZABLE, THE STATES, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU GET A CIVIL ALERT OR AN AMBER ALERT FOR A CHILD THAT'S IN HOUSTON. YOU'RE SAYING, WHY AM I GETTING A AMBER ALERT FOR A CHILD IN HOUSTON? WELL, THE STATE HAS DETERMINED IN THEIR EVIDENCE SOMEHOW THAT FAMILY LIVES IN THE DFW AREA OR SOMETHING, AND THEY WANT TO SEND IT JUST IN CASE, YOU NOTICE OR KNOW THIS PERSON OR SO THAT'S KIND OF THE INTENT. SO IT IS KIND OF, CONFUSING WHEN YOU SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, WHY AM I GETTING THIS? AND THAT KIND OF JUST HURTS PEOPLE AWAY FROM IT, THE OTHER THING THAT PROBABLY THE BIGGEST CON I WOULD SAY IS THAT EVEN THOUGH IT'S GREAT, IT'S FREE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO NECESSARILY ENROLL, THERE'S TOO MANY OPTIONS AND THERE'S TOO MANY ALERTS. IT DESENSITIZES PEOPLE. UNLIKE THE OUTDOOR WARNING SIGN, WHICH WHAT THE HECK IS GOING ON? WE JUST GET WITH ALL THE ALERTS WE HAVE ON OUR PHONE. IT IS SOMEWHAT DESENSITIZING. AND THEN LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT'S THE MOST COMMON THING THAT'S OUT THERE.
AND THIS IS THERE IS A THOUSAND DIFFERENT ONES, AND THERE'S THOUSANDS OF THESE, THESE ARE MASS NOTIFICATION ALERTS, THE TOWN OF NORTHLAKE HAS IS PD HAS IT ASSISTANT COUNTY HAS THIS, THESE ARE NOTIFICATION SYSTEM THAT YOU DO HAVE TO ENROLL IN EVERY NEWS STATION, CHANNEL EIGHT FIVE. THEY ALL HAVE THE SYSTEM. YOU CAN GO IN THE MOBILE APPS. YOU CAN ROLL. AND BUT THIS IS BASED ON YOUR ADDRESS. SO THE WI ALERTS THE ONE I TALKED ABOUT PREVIOUSLY, THOSE ARE BASED ON GEOGRAPHIC LOCATION. YOU HAVE TO BE IN THAT AREA IN FACT WHEN THAT ALERT GOES OFF AND YOU TRAVEL AND YOU'RE TRAVELING AND YOU TRAVEL INTO THAT AREA, EVEN THOUGH THE ALERTS ARE ALREADY GONE OFF, IT WILL SEND YOU AN ALERT SAYING THAT YOU'VE ENTERED INTO THAT SPACE, THIS IS NOT THAT. THIS IS MORE ADDRESS BASED. IT DOES REQUIRE YOU TO ENROLL. IT ALSO REQUIRES YOU TO UNENROLL SO YOU MOVE OR WHATEVER YOU'VE GOT TO GO IN AND MAKE THAT MAKE THAT AN ENROLLMENT.
THERE'S OUR QR CODE. IF ANYBODY WANTS TO KNOW THAT'S THAT CAN TAKE YOU TO IT. YOU CAN APPLY TO OURS, IN A VERY COMMON IT'S VERY LOCAL. IT'S DESIGNED TO BE VERY LOCAL, WHEN WE IT'S OBVIOUSLY WE USE IT FOR LIFE THREATENING WEATHER ALERTS. THE MOST, BUT AND WE DON'T DO IT THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE, WE GET THOSE FROM THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE. BUT WE CAN IF THERE IS A DERAILMENT ON 377 OR THERE'S A MAJOR HAZARD HAZMAT SITUATION ON I-35, WE CAN SEND ALERTS THAT ALLOWS. IT CAN EVEN ALLOW TWO WAY COMMUNICATIONS BETWEEN US AND THE CITIZENS. SO THERE IS SOME CUSTOMIZATION WE CAN DO. SO IT'S MUCH MORE, LOCAL SPECIFIC. BUT I'M SURE THE TOWN HAS USES A SYSTEM VERY SIMILAR TO THAT. LET'S TALK ABOUT REAL QUICKLY TRENDS AND RECOMMENDATIONS, AS YOU AS WE'VE KIND OF ADVANCED ALONG TALKING ABOUT WHERE WE'VE COME AND WHERE WE'RE GOING, YOU'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO SEE MORE ADVANCED EVEN IN THE TRADITIONAL, THE TRADITIONAL IS GOING TO GET MORE ADVANCED AS WELL, PARTICULARLY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE INTERNET OF THINGS.
WE'VE ALWAYS HAD THE INTERNET OF PEOPLE. NOW YOU'RE STARTING TO SEE THE INTERNET OF THINGS. SOON YOUR YOUR PHONE'S GOING TO BE TALKING TO YOUR MICROWAVE. IT ALREADY TALKS TO YOUR, YOU KNOW, YOUR FRIDGE. AND SO IT'S JUST WE'RE GOING TO BECOME MORE CONNECTED. DATA IS GOING TO BECOME MORE AVAILABLE. AND YOU'RE GOING TO START TO SEE YOU'RE STARTING TO SEE MORE SATELLITE CONNECTIVITY, TALK ABOUT THAT IN A MINUTE. SO THAT'S THAT'S A BIG THING. IF YOU LOOK AT THE RIGHT, THAT'S THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS, IPHONE APPLE HAS SAID IF YOU HAVE AN IPHONE, ISO 14 OR ABOVE, YOU CURRENTLY HAVE 911 SYSTEM THROUGH SATELLITE. THEY'RE SAYING WITH THE ISO 18, THEY'RE GOING TO START BEING ABLE TO DO TEXT MESSAGING VIA SATELLITE. SO
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THAT'S SOME OF THE THINGS YOU'RE STARTING TO SEE WITH THE ROCKETS AND SATELLITES, ELON MUSK AND ALL THOSE THINGS, STARLINK, ALL THOSE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING THAT'S GOING TO BLEED OVER INTO ALERT NOTIFICATION SYSTEM. SO CONTINUE TO SEE THAT, WE EXPECT THAT, AND YOU'RE JUST GOING TO SEE MORE SYSTEMS TALKING TO EACH OTHER, MUCH LIKE WE TALK ABOUT THE INTERNET THINGS, THE OUTDOOR WARNING SYSTEM MAY EVENTUALLY BE WILL BE TALKING TO THE BILLBOARD. YOU PROBABLY NOTICE THE BILLBOARDS WHEN YOU SEE THE ALERT GOING DOWN THE HIGHWAY. YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S A RECOMMENDATION THAT THE TOWN CAN LOOK AT. DO WE WANT TO CREATE MORE SIGNAGE THAT CAN TIE TO OUR SYSTEM? SO THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES AND WAYS YOU CAN. I THINK EACH TOWN HAS TO LOOK AT THEIR COMMUNITY RISK PROFILE AND DECIDE, HEY, WHAT IS BEST FOR US. SO IN A NUTSHELL, THAT'S MY RECOMMENDATION. THERE IS NO PERFECT SYSTEM. EACH OF THESE ARE ALL TOOLS IN THE TOOLBOX THAT EACH COMMUNITY SHOULD LOOK AT. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU LOOK AT YOUR COMMUNITY RISK PROFILE AND, AND KIND OF DESIGN A SYSTEM THAT WORKS BEST FOR YOU. FOR EXAMPLE, AS YOU DEVELOP YOUR MASTER PLAN AND YOU START LOOKING AT PARKS AND SOCCER FIELDS WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ASSEMBLIES OUTDOORS, IT MAY MAKE SENSE TO PUT AN OUTDOOR WARNING SYSTEM IN A PUBLIC AREA WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE LARGE GROUPS OF PEOPLE. SO THOSE ARE THE TYPE OF THINGS YOU NEED TO THINK ABOUT AND LEVERAGE WHEN YOU'RE LEVERAGING YOUR TAX DOLLARS AND RESOURCES. SAY, WHAT DO WE WANT TO PROVIDE TO THE CITIZENS? SO WITH THAT, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH A VERY FIVE SHORT, FIVE MINUTE SHORT, SOMETHING I COULD HAVE TALKED ABOUT, I ENJOY TALKING ABOUT, I COULD TALK ABOUT FOR AN HOUR, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO BECAUSE I NEED TO GET A LOT OF AGENDA ITEMS. BUT I WILL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. THANK YOU. GO AHEAD. ONE AFTER THIS ONE. OR DID I TURN IT OFF? CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. OKAY I APPRECIATE YOU COMING TO TALK TO US, I KNOW THAT THE ALBUQUERQUE PEOPLE THAT ASKED ABOUT IT, BUT THAT, IT IS BECAUSE ESPECIALLY WITHIN TEXAS, BECAUSE WHATEVER. THAT'S RIGHT. IT IS. IT IS CORRECT. BUT THAT I KNOW THAT BEFORE A SIREN GOING OFF SOMEWHERE, HE GOES OFF ON MY PHONE AND THEY'RE CALLING ME. YES. AND I'M HAPPY WITH THAT.BUT I THINK THAT THIS IS MORE LIKE A DIRECTION TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MORE CONSISTENTLY PROMOTING, GOING ONLINE AND SIGNED UP FOR THE, THE NETWORK BECAUSE WE DO IT RELATIVELY FREQUENTLY, BUT THAT EVERY SINGLE TIME WE DO IT, THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN THERE AND THAT'LL STILL HAPPEN. BUT IF WE CAN DO IT MONTHLY, MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE EXPLORED ALL THE AVENUES FOR GETTING PEOPLE TO SIGN UP FOR WHATEVER THEY SIGN UP FOR WATER SERVICE. WE TELL THEM ABOUT THE WEATHER. I WOULD I WOULD AGREE MARKETING IS THE BIGGEST THING. YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF TOWN HAS A WHEN CITIZENS MOVE IN, DO THEY GET A WELCOME TO NORTHLAKE PACKAGE. YOU KNOW AND HERE'S THE POST OFFICE. HERE'S HERE'S HOW YOU I MEAN THEY MAY OR MAY NOT GET THOSE, BUT, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING YOU CAN DO TO ADVERTISE TO DENOTE THOSE THINGS? I THINK THEY I THINK THEY GO A LONG WAY, AND THEY ONLY GET THIS RANDOM NUMBER. IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT. BUT IF THERE IS, THERE ARE PROBABLY I WONDER IF THERE ARE PROGRAMS OUT THERE FOR GETTING THOSE, LIKE ACTUAL PHYSICAL WEATHER RADIOS FOR ADDRESS FOR ELDERLY IN TOWN. SO WE HAVE A POPULATION THAT MAYBE ISN'T USING CELL PHONES OR THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT I DIDN'T SEE VERY MUCH OF THEM. I DO THINK THAT ONCE WE GET THE LIKE, SPORTS CENTER AND THE BASEBALL STUFF OUT, BUT THAT'S THE TIME TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH ROANOKE ABOUT DOING SOMETHING OUT THERE, AND I ALSO WONDER IF THE WEATHER SYSTEM IS, LIKE, SO PERFECT FOR THE HOMELESS PERSON. YEAH, WITH THE STAR CENTER, I'LL TALK TO THEM BECAUSE I'VE BEEN ALERTED TO SOME NEW INDOOR TECHNOLOGIES FOR PLACES LIKE THAT. SO WE'LL LOOK AT THAT WHEREVER WE HAVE A BIG GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT AREN'T FROM HERE AND WOULDN'T HAVE THE ALERT SET UP. YES, EXACTLY, COUNCIL, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? IF IT MAKES YOU FEEL ANY BETTER, I WILL LET YOU KNOW. THIS IS A AN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT CIRCLES AND EVEN LOCAL GOVERNMENTS. THIS IS AN ONGOING DEBATE. IF YOU LOOK AT THE NEWS, THERE ARE TOWNS THAT ARE ADDING THEM AND THERE'S TOWNS THAT ARE NOT ARE GETTING RID OF THEM. SO IT'S A SO I FEEL THE CONCERN THAT YOU WANT TO PROVIDE A SAFE COMMUNITY. I WANT TO DO EVERYTHING I CAN TO HELP YOU DO THAT. AND I'M WILLING TO IF IT MEANS APPLYING FOR GRANTS OR ANY WAY WE CAN ASSIST. I AM ALL FOR ENSURING THE SAFETY, AND I SUSPECT THAT NOW IT'S ON. I SUSPECT THAT BY THE TIME WE, HAVE SOMETHING THAT NEEDS AN OUTDOOR ALERT, THAT THE TECHNOLOGY WILL HAVE ADVANCED WHERE WE DON'T HAVE TO PUT IT. SO THANK YOU. YEAH. I MEAN, THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY ABOUT IT IS THAT WHATEVER WE DO, ONE IS DEFINITELY GRANTS BECAUSE THEY'RE THERE. YOU JUST GOT TO FIND THEM. AND THEN, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE NOT WHATEVER WE'RE GOING TO INVEST IN IS ON THE CUTTING EDGE THAT'S LOOKING DOWN THE ROAD, EVEN IF IT'S NOT 100% DEVELOPED YET. THERE'S A LOT OF
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WAYS THAT I'VE FOUND IN IN OTHER SECTORS THAT YOU CAN WORK WITH COMPANIES TO SAY, HEY, WE'LL BE YOUR PROVING GROUND AND YOU CAN GET STUFF FOR A LOT, A LOT, A VERY REDUCED RATE BECAUSE YOU'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH THEM TO, TO ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN. SO I WOULD AGREE AND I WOULD ADD TO THAT, THAT IT'S AN EXCITING TIME FOR NORTHLAKE BECAUSE YOU'RE GROWING, WHEREAS YOUR OLDER SUBURBAN TOWNS DON'T HAVE MISSED THAT OPPORTUNITY. YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BECOME A SMART CITY WHERE YOU CAN CREATE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WILL BE MORE ADVANCED AND MORE ATTRACTIVE TO THOSE GENERATIONS. THANK YOU, SMART CITY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. IS THERE ANY FORWARD LOOKING DIRECTION FOR STAFF? ANY THOUGHTS? ALL RIGHT. I ASSUME THAT'S PART OF YOUR BUDGET PRESENTATIONS AND STUFF LIKE THAT TO TALK ABOUT AS AN OPTION? YES. NO, I'M NOT SURE IF WE INCLUDED OR NOT. LAST PASS, NO, IT'S MORE THAT CARRY ON WITH THE NOTIFICATIONS AND CELL PHONE. WE'LL LOOK AT POTENTIAL GRANTS FOR RADIOS FOR THOSE FEW INDIVIDUALS THAT DON'T HAVE CELL PHONES. CAN YOU HELP ME FIND THEM? WE'LL GET THEM A RADIO. I'M SURE IT'LL BE PRETTY INEXPENSIVE BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE MANY OF THEM. BUT I CAN JUST RUN TO WALMART. YEAH, YEAH, WE'LL DO THAT. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD. WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH. I APPRECIATE YOUR[2.C. Briefing - Police and Court Services Contract - Town of Dish]
TIME. THIS EVENING. ALL RIGHT. NEXT WE HAVE A BRIEFING ON POLICE AND COURT SERVICES CONTRACT. THE TOWN OF DISH APPROACHED THE TOWN. LOOKING FOR POLICE SERVICES. I MET WITH THE MAYOR AND DREW AND CHIEF, AND WE HAD A LITTLE SIT DOWN ON THAT LOOK AT HOW IT WOULD WORK. IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE KIND OF LIKE THE DEAL WE HAVE WITH HARVEST. NOTHING'S WRITTEN YET. BUT, CHIEF, I THINK YOU HAVE SOME POINTS ON THIS. A FEW POINTS ON THIS, THIS IS KIND OF AN OVERVIEW OF THE TOWN OF DISH. YOU KNOW, WE HAD OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH THE MAYOR. AND THEY'RE WANTING PATROL, TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT AND COURT SERVICES. DISH IS VERY SMALL, 1.6MI■!S, ENCOMPASSES ABOUT 230 HOMES THAT BUILD OUT ABOUT 600 PEOPLE IN POPULATION. SO THIS IS THEIR CALLS FOR SERVICE SINCE AUGUST 15TH OF LAST YEAR, 100 CALLS FOR SERVICE FROM AUGUST 15TH UNTIL TODAY, SO NOT A WHOLE LOT OF PRIORITY ONE CALLS. PRIORITY TWO CALLS A LITTLE BIT MORE AND SO ON. AND SO FORTH, BUT NOT A WHOLE LOT IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS, IF YOU LOOK AT IT, COMPARED TO WHAT NORTH LAKES IS, YOU'RE LOOKING AT 100 CALLS COMPARED TO, I BELIEVE. PLEASE NOTICE THE Y AXIS ON THOSE GRAPHS. YEAH. THANK YOU. YEAH, YEAH. LOOK AT THE NUMBER. NOT THAT. SO YOU KNOW, WE, AVERAGE ABOUT SEVEN CALLS AND DISH IS WHAT IT WOULD WOULD BE DOWN TO IN NORTH LAKE PROPER. IT'S LIKE 1050 CALLS PER MONTH. A MONTH EACH MONTH. YEAH. AND YOU KNOW, IT LOOKS LIKE DISH IS REALLY FAR AWAY, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY FURTHER TO GO FROM HERE TO COOK THAN IT IS FROM HERE TO DISH. SO WHAT THE TOWN HAS, OR TOWN OF DISH. WE BROKE DOWN KIND OF LIKE WE DID WITH HARVEST. $25 PER HOME PER MONTH. CURRENTLY THERE ARE 175 HOMES, SO ABOUT 52,000 LITTLE OVER, BUILD OUT 69,000. AND AFTER SPEAKING WITH THEIR, TOWN SECRETARY AND THE MAYOR, THEY SAID THEY DO WANT ONE FLOCK CAMERA AT THEIR TOWN HALL AND PARK AREA, BUT I THINK THEY MIGHT PAY FOR THAT SEPARATELY, OR IT MIGHT BE INCLUDED INTO THE CONTRACT, SO WE'RE GOING TO START OFF WITH A ONE YEAR CONTRACT IF IT'S APPROVED BY COUNCIL AND UP TO A FOUR YEAR EXTENSION AFTER THAT COURT WILL BE A FIVE YEAR. AND THEN LIKE I SAID, WE'LL EVALUATE AFTER THE FIRST YEAR AND WE'LL START ON OCTOBER 1ST. IF IT'S APPROVED. SO ANY QUESTIONS, JUST ONE DOES THAT COST COVER THE COST OF AN OFFICER FOR A YEAR? I BELIEVE IT WOULD, WE MIGHT GO OUT THERE LIKE ONCE PER SHIFT AND DRIVE AROUND. AND IF THEY HAVE A TRAFFIC ISSUE, WE CAN GO OUT THERE AND SIT FOR A LITTLE BIT, SO I WAS LOOKING AT THE CALLS FROM THE COUNTY IN, IN TIME FROM AUGUST 15TH TO 2023 UNTIL NOW. DIDN'T COUNT. HE'S DONE SIX CLOSE PATROLS OUT THERE, IN THE WHOLE YEAR ALMOST. SO I THINK WE COULD DO A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN THAT. I GO BACK TO THE LAST SLIDE, PLEASE, WHEN I MET WITH THEM, I TOLD MAYOR, I SAID, THIS SOUNDS GREAT. WHAT ABOUT IF IT'S NOT WORKING OUT? WHAT ABOUT IF IT'S CAUSING TOO MUCH STRESS? SO WE PROPOSED THIS ONE YEAR CONTRACT AND THEN THE OPTION TO EXTEND IT IF IT'S WORKING OUT, IT'S NOT STRESSING THE OFFICERS.OBVIOUSLY CHIEF'S TRYING TO GET MORE OFFICERS AS WELL. I DIRECTED CHIEF THAT WE STILL HAVE TO FOCUS ON OUR LOCAL ENFORCEMENT BECAUSE THAT'S A HIGH PRIORITY FOR MYSELF AND COUNCIL, BUT KNOWING THE PATTERNS THAT'S ALREADY OUT THERE AND THE POTENTIAL PATROLS, I THINK THAT IT WORKS. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AT ONE FLOCK CAMERA COME STRAIGHT FROM THEM INSTEAD
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OF PART OF THAT ANNUAL, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THEY WOULD COVER THE COST. IT'D BE NET ZERO TO THE TOWN, EITHER THROUGH THE CONTRACT OR SEPARATELY THROUGH FLOCK. BUT YEAH, WE WOULDN'T WE WOULDN'T PUT. SO YOU WANT IT OUTSIDE THE CONTRACT? WELL, OUTSIDE OF 52 OR 69,000.EXACTLY. IT WOULD BE. IT'D BE BUILT INTO IT. YEAH. YES. SO, SINCE THIS IS A BRIEFING, I AM IT'S DIRECTION TO STAFF, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT LOOKING AT THIS FURTHER AND GET TO THE LANGUAGE OF THE CONTRACT, THE MAYOR AND THE. THEY HAVE THE SAME THING WE DO. YOU KNOW, ONCE IN A WHILE, THEY GOT A COUPLE SPEEDERS HEADING DOWN THE STRAIGHTAWAYS, AND IT'S PRETTY LOW, BUT IT MIGHT DEVELOP AS THEY GROW, JUST LIKE IT HAS HERE IN NORTHLAKE. SO WHAT KIND OF DIRECTION FOR STAFF. AND I LIKE AS LONG AS WE HAVE THE CAPACITY FOR IT AND IT DOESN'T TAKE AWAY OUR ABILITY TO COVER WHAT WE ALREADY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR AND THAT WE'RE NOT SUBSIDIZING IT, I LIKE IT AND I, I THINK AS LONG AS WE'RE NOT IN THE RED FROM IT, I'M HAPPY. I GUESS MY ONLY, THE ONLY THING THAT I THINK THAT I WOULD LIKE TO PROBABLY SEE IS BASED ON THE PRIORITY OF CALLS.
IF WE HAVE, BECAUSE MOST OF THE SYSTEMS CAN TRACK HOW MUCH TIME EACH CALL IS TAKING. CORRECT.
AND THEN WE BREAK DOWN THE AMOUNT OF TIME TO DOLLARS, BECAUSE TIME IS MONEY. AND THEN WE WOULD BE ABLE TO GET A BECAUSE THAT TAKES TIME AWAY FROM PATROLLING NORTH LAKE AND WHATEVER IT MAY BE. THAT'S THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT I CAN REALLY THINK OF THAT MIGHT NEED TO BE COVERED. WE'LL CLASSIFY IT WITH. WE HAVE A YOU KNOW, WE'RE OUT THERE, WE'RE DOING A CLOSE PATROL, AND THEN WE GET A PRIORITY ONE CALL. WE'RE GOING TO DROP EVERYTHING AND COME THIS WAY. AND HOPEFULLY IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE, WE'LL BE AT FULL STAFF AND IT WON'T REALLY BE AN ISSUE. SO COOL. THE CLOSE THE CLOSEST IS, NO FURTHER THAN CUTE, BUT HOW ABOUT THE FURTHEREST PLACE IN, DISH? WELL, THAT'S THAT'S RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF DISH. SO DISH ISN'T THAT BIG, SO I DON'T THINK IT'D BE. YEAH, MAYBE 1.6 MILE. SO. YEAH, IT'S NOT, NOT THAT FAR OFF. MIGHT BE 30S LONGER IN RESPONSE OR IN A QUARTER MILE. HALF MILE BACK UP. YEAH. SO DISH IS SMALLER AND ROPES AND RANCH, RIGHT. WE'RE RIGHT THERE IN THE PURPLE AND DISHES AND THE GREEN PROBABLY ABOUT TWICE AS WIDE AS NORTHRIDGE ESTATES, PROBABLY TWO NORTHRIDGE ESTATES. IT'S ALSO ONE OF MY FAVORITE TOWN NAMING STORIES. WE ALL NEED TO LOOK UP. WHAT DISH HAS. THE NAME USED TO BE CALLED CLARK. ALL RIGHT, SO WHAT I'M HEARING HERE IS LET'S DOT THE I'S AND CROSS THE T'S AND MAKE SURE EVERYTHING LOOKS RIGHT. MAKE SURE YOU DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER CONCERNS, CHIEF, IF YOU COME ACROSS ANY. CERTAINLY FOR OUR NEXT PRESENTATION. BUT I THINK IS WHERE I POINT WE CAN AT LEAST LOOK AT IT. SO, YEAH, WE HAVEN'T PROGRAMED IN THE, IN THE PRELIMINARY BUDGET. SO YOU CAN SEE THOSE NUMBERS, I HAVEN'T INTRODUCED WAYNE OLSEN. HE'S FILLING IN FOR DEAN DEAN'S IN ITALY, BUT, WAYNE'S ONE OF THE, THE PRIMARY PARTNERS OF OUR LAW FIRM, THEY ACTUALLY REPRESENT DISH AS WELL. SO WRITING THE CONTRACT SHOULD BE VERY EASY. WE'VE GOT IT. PRETTY MUCH. WE MIRRORED THE CONTRACT WITH HARVEST. SO IF YOU IF YOU'RE READY, WE'LL WE WE'RE READY TO START OCTOBER 1ST. AND THE COUNTY'S BEEN COVERING IT. IS THAT CORRECT. SO WE DID THE LEGWORK FIGURING OUT HARVEST AND WE'RE COPYING THAT FOR DISH. YES I LIKE IT. WELL I MEAN I, I DO KNOW THAT THE COUNTY IS EXTREMELY STRETCHED. THEN FOR THE AMOUNT OF COVERAGE AREA THAT THEY HAVE. I MEAN, THERE'S LOW AS FOUR DEPUTIES PER ON NIGHT SHIFTS. SOMETIMES AND COUNSELOR KELLY, THAT'S A POINT THEY'RE PAYING FOR RIGHT. FOR BETTER SERVICE. NO, I MEAN IT MAKES SENSE THERE. SO ALL RIGHT CARRY ON WITH THAT AND WE'LL SEE IT AT A FUTURE COUNCIL MEETING. THANK
[2.D. Briefing - Regulating Truck Traffic]
YOU. CHIEF. I KNOW YOU'RE STAYING UP HERE BECAUSE I WAS APPROACHED. I THINK SOME OF OUR COUNCILORS PROBABLY GOT EMAILS ON THIS FROM TIME TO TIME. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CONCRETE TRUCK TRAFFIC GOING THROUGH STARDUST RANCH, THROUGH THE, YOU KNOW, 30 MILE AN HOUR RESIDENTIAL AREA AND IT'S CAUSING SOME HEARTBURN FOR THE RESIDENTS. RIGHTFULLY SO, SO I ASKED DREW TO START LOOKING AT WHAT WE COULD DO TO AID AND ASSIST. OBVIOUSLY, WE COULD FIX FOR FLORENCE ROAD, BUT THAT'S DOWN THE ROAD JUST A LITTLE BIT, NO PUN INTENDED. AND GOT IT.JERSEY AND, IT HAS TO BE DONE. BUT AS SOON AS THEY STOP THE TRUCKS COMING DOWN, THE MAIN ROAD AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE VERY NEXT DAY, I GOT AY WERE GON YARBOROUGH ROAD, WHICH IS A COUNTY ROAD, AND SAYS NO TRUCKS. SO WE GOT ANOTHER ONE. YEAH, YEAH. SO WE SOLVED THE PROBLEM AND WE GOT COMPLAINED THAT THEY'RE ON A DIFFERENT ROAD, BUT WE WILL, SEE WHAT CHIEF HAS TO SAY ABOUT THIS. WELL, THIS IS A TRICKY ONE, AND I KNOW OUR OFFICERS HAVE BEEN OUT THERE ON SATURDAYS TRYING TO MONITOR TRUCKS COMING THROUGH. OF COURSE, WHEN WE'RE OUT THERE, NOBODY COMES THROUGH, ESPECIALLY IN OUR, MARKED VEHICLE. I'VE BEEN OUT THERE IN MY UNMARKED
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VEHICLE, AND I KNOW, I THINK CAPTAIN COLEMAN OR CAPTAIN THORNTON HAS BOTH BEEN OUT THERE AS WELL. NO TRUCKS HAVE BEEN COMING THROUGH. I THINK MAYBE ONE CAME THROUGH WHEN SERGEANT, WHEN THE CAPTAIN THOUGHT WAS OUT THERE. BUT THIS IS KIND OF A THIS IS KIND OF A OVERVIEW OF WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT ROADS. THE YELLOW IS, IS NORTH LAKE, BLUE IS COUNTY AND RED IS TXDOT. AND WE CAN'T WE CAN'T MAKE THE COUNTY ROADS OR THE, TEX DOT ROADS, A NO TRUCK ROUTE THAT'S GOT TO BE UP TO THEM, WE CAN DO THE YELLOW ROADS, BUT I TRY TO PICK THE, THE, THE ROADS THAT ARE ON THE OUTSKIRTS, THAT WAY THOSE BE THE MAIN ONES THAT THEY'D WANT TO TRAVEL DOWN. SO OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE WAS ESTABLISHED IN 1999. WE DO HAVE SOME ENFORCEMENT ACTION IN PLACE. YOU KNOW, IF YOU GO THROUGH THE ORDINANCE, IT TALKS ABOUT LIABILITY FOR DAMAGE. IF IT'S, IF IT'S DAMAGED, HAD TO PAY A $15,000 PERMIT FEE OR THINGS LIKE THAT. WEIGHT ON RESIDENTIAL STREETS, THERE'S ANOTHER ONE. I THINK THE BIGGEST THING IS THE CONCRETE TRUCKS. IS THAT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, I HAVEN'T SEEN TOO MANY MILK TRUCKS GOING GOING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT THAT IS ON THERE AS WELL. SO. SO WE MAY NEED AN UPDATE ON OUR ORDINANCES. WELL, THAT'S ACTUALLY IN STATE LAW TOO. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS BROKEN DOWN BY WHAT TYPE OF VEHICLE IT IS, AND THE, THE WAY IT'S, IT'S WRITTEN IN THE LAW IS THERE'S DIFFERENT THINGS. THERE'S DIFFERENT DIFFERENT CITIES HAVE DIFFERENT WEIGHTS, THE TYPE OF VEHICLE HAS A DIFFERENT WAY. IT GOES BY SIZE, IT GOES BY HEIGHT, IT GOES BY WIDTH. THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS TO THIS, FOR AS FAR AS SIGNAGE, THE EASIEST THING TO DO WOULD BE PUT A NO TRUCK SIGN ON STARDUST AND FLORENCE JUST TO LET THEM KNOW. AND THAT WAY WE HAVE SOME LIKE YOU'VE BEEN WARNED ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW, SO WE CAN ENFORCE IT THEN. RIGHT NOW THERE'S NOTHING THAT SAYS ANYTHING ABOUT IT. SO WE'D RATHER GIVE THEM A FAIR, A FAIR CHANCE BEFORE WE START ISSUING CITATIONS. SO LIKE I SAID, THERE'S NO ESTABLISHED TRUCK ROUTES. THE COUNTY ROADS COMMISSIONER'S COURT HAS TO SET THOSE FOR LOCAL ORDINANCE OR LOCAL ROADS. TOWN COUNCIL CAN DO THAT, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS TOO, IT SAYS IN OUR CURRENT, ORDINANCE, IT TALKS ABOUT OVER 26 TONS. I THINK THERE SHOULD BE 26,000 POUNDS, NOT TONS, BECAUSE YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT, THEY'RE SAYING IT'D BE 52,000 POUNDS. COULD BE DRIVING DOWN YOUR STREET. SO I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE NEED TO CHANGE. WE NEED TO GO BACK AND TWEAK OUR ORDINANCE A LITTLE BIT, IF THERE'S NO PRACTICAL ROUTE, THEY HAVE ONE PART OF THE ORDINANCE SAYS YOU HAVE TO GET A PERMIT FROM THE TOWN SECRETARY. ANOTHER PART SAYS FROM THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, AND SIGNAGE, SAME THING. PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR HAS TO GET APPROVAL FROM THE COUNCIL BEFORE THEY CAN PUT SIGNS UP IN THAT AREA. THIS IS KIND OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. THE CLASS SEVEN AND CLASS EIGHT, ANYTHING OVER 26,000 POUNDS, KEEP THOSE OFF OF RESIDENTIAL STREETS AGAIN. I THINK IT'S MOSTLY THE CONCRETE TRUCKS. THEY ARE VERY HEAVY. THEY CAN GET UP TO 60, 70, 80,000 POUNDS WHEN FULLY LOADED, AND THAT CAN DO A LOT OF DAMAGE TO THE CONCRETE. THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE SIGNS THAT I'VE PULLED UP TO MAYBE PUT UP THERE WITH THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR AND SEE WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE. YES, MA'AM, WHENEVER BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WHERE I LIVE IN PECAN SQUARE, THERE'S CONCRETE BEING POURED EVERY DAY. IT FEELS LIKE. SO IF WE MAKE IF WE'RE CHANGING SOMETHING FOR RESIDENTIAL ROADS. ARE YOU SAYING THAT IF THEY DO NEED TO TRAVEL ON THE RESIDENTIAL ROADS, THEY JUST COME AND GET A PERMIT BEFORE THEY DO IT? THEY DON'T HAVE TO GET A PERMIT. BUT IN THE ORDINANCE, YOU CAN PUT THAT. THEY HAVE TO TAKE THE QUICKEST AND MOST EFFICIENT ROUTE POSSIBLE. INSTEAD OF DRIVING ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THEY CAN JUST COME OFF. 407 GO DOWN COTTONTAIL AND THEN HIT LIKE WHEN THEY'RE GOING THROUGH STARDUST TO THE, CONCRETE PLANT. DO THEY HAVE A BETTER ROUTE OR THAT'S JUST THE FLORENCE WOULD BE THE EASIEST DRAG GOING DOWN ROPES AND TURN RIGHT ON FLORENCE. YOU GO STRAIGHT UP FLORENCE TO BLAIR.BUT, THE ROAD'S PRETTY TORN UP ON FLORENCE. SO THAT'S WHY THEY TRY TO AVOID IT. ALL RIGHT? THEY DON'T LIKE FIZZY CONCRETE. YOU KNOW, SHAKING. YEAH. YOU KNOW, IT'S THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO AVOID. BUT. AND CAPTAIN THORNTON HAS REACHED OUT TO THE SUNRISE CONCRETE PLAN. AND HE HAS. YEAH. HE'S GOING TO TALK TO THEM. THERE'S ANOTHER ONE CALLED, ROCK HALL. I LOOKED THAT UP ONLINE AND SAID IT'S PERMANENT CLOSED. SO I THINK MAYBE SUNRISE BOUGHT ONE OF THEIR TRUCKS. SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM. SAY TELL YOUR DRIVERS TO STAY ON THE MAIN ROAD, NOT THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WELL, YOU SAVED ME A TRIP UP THERE BECAUSE I WAS HEADED UP THERE NEXT WEEK. BUT ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? POLITICS YEAH, YEAH.
SO I THINK IT WOULD BE WISE TO FIX THE ORDINANCE. YES. AND WE'RE GOING TO DO A DEEP DIVE INTO THE ORDINANCE AND GET THAT STRAIGHTENED OUT. DO YOU HAVE ANY. SO THE 2600, WEIGHT SIGNAGE SAYING NO TRUCKS. YES, IS THAT DOES THAT LOOK GOOD TO START WITH? YES. I THINK A NO TRUCKS IS SUPER SIMPLE TO GET UP THERE, IT HAS BEEN NORTH AND SOUTH SIDE. I THINK THEY'RE MOSTLY COMING DOWN FOR DELIVERIES TO. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY'RE RETURNING. I HAVEN'T HEARD COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE NORTHERN DIRECTION, BUT BOTH BOTH ENTRANCES, THROUGH THERE.
OBVIOUSLY THE COUNTY HAS ASSIGNED FOR NO TRUCKS ON YARBOROUGH, BUT THE
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CONVERSATIONS WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED. AND, I THINK THAT WILL HOPEFULLY DIVERT SOME OF IT, BUT FOR A FUTURE USE. YEAH NO TRUCKS. AND I THINK IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO WEIGHT LIMIT THE ROADS THAT NEED BE WEIGHT LIMITED THROUGHOUT THE TOWN, JUST LIKE WE DID. NO, NO ENGINE BRAKES IN THE PAST, NO, JAKE, THIS WOULD COVER. YEAH. WELL, AS WE COVER ALL RESIDENTIAL STREET.WELL, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE IMMEDIATELY OVERNIGHT. BUT WE SHOULD LOOK AT THAT AS A ROLLING, ROLLING OUT AT SOME POINT. AND SOME OF IT IS US ADDRESSING THE PROBLEM IS GOING TO RESOLVE ITSELF. CORRECT ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON THAT? ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALL RIGHT. OH HERE COMES THE FUN ONE. BUDGETS
[2.E. Briefing - Fiscal Year 2025 Preliminary Budget]
BUDGETS, BUDGETS, IT'S JUST FUN OF NUMBERS. SO FUN. PAINT WITH NUMBERS. FUN WITH NUMBERS. PAINT WITH NUMBERS. ONE WITH NUMBERS IS INTERCHANGEABLE. SO OKAY. WELCOME, YEAH. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. SO JUST AS A CAVEAT TO THIS PRESENTATION, THIS IS STILL, PRELIMINARY NUMBERS, WE'VE DONE A COUPLE OF THESE PRESENTATIONS SO FAR. I THINK THIS IS THE THIRD ONE THAT WE'VE DONE. SO IT'S STILL UNDER CONSTRUCTION. WE'RE STILL GOING THROUGH AND WORKING OUT ALL THE KINKS AND DOUBLE CHECKING, BUT WE WANTED TO GIVE YOU A VIEW INTO KIND OF REVENUES, REVIEW SOME OF THE REQUESTS AND THEN LOOK AT THE CIP, THE CAPITAL PROJECTS, JUST A LITTLE BIT. SO THE BUDGET TIMELINE, SO FAR WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED A NUMBER OF STEPS. AND THE ONE THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY ON RIGHT NOW IS JUST AN ADDITIONAL PRESENTATION. ANOTHER CHANCE FOR YOU ALL TO LOOK AT THE BUDGET AND KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT IN THE PROCESS AND UPCOMING. WE HAVE ON AUGUST 1ST. SO COMING UP NEXT WEEK IS WHEN WE'LL HAVE THE PROPOSED BUDGET OUT TO YOU. SO WE'RE GETTING CLOSE. WE'RE ALMOST THERE, WE STILL HAVE WAITING FOR SOME NUMBERS TO COME IN, ESPECIALLY FROM THE COUNTY REGARDING TAX RATES THAT'S CURRENTLY SITTING WITH THEM AS THEY'RE DOING THEIR CALCULATIONS. AND WE SHOULD HEAR BACK FROM THEM IN THE NEXT DAY OR TWO ABOUT WHAT THEIR FINALS ARE. BUT WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT SOME OF THOSE PRELIMINARY NUMBERS THAT WE'VE DONE IN-HOUSE TONIGHT. AND THEN AFTER AUGUST 1ST ON THE EIGHTH, WE'LL HAVE A PROPOSED BUDGET PRESENTATION. AND THEN ON THE 12TH IS WHEN WE WOULD HOLD THE HEARINGS FOR ADOPTION OF THE BUDGET AND ALSO THE TAX RATE AS WELL AS THE APPROVAL FOR BOTH THOSE ITEMS, IN BETWEEN THERE, THERE'S THE OPTION FOR POTENTIALLY AN ADDITIONAL PRESENTATION IF, THAT IS NEEDED THERE ON THE 22ND. BUT THAT IS WHERE WE'RE MOVING WITH THIS TIMELINE. OKAY. SO DIVING INTO REVENUES, PRELIMINARY REVENUES. SO THIS IS JUST A QUICK SLIDE, REALLY QUICK. JUST REVIEWING OUR FUND SOURCES AND OUR REVENUE SOURCES AND HOW THEY'RE AND THE SUPPORTED FUNDS.SO YOU CAN JUST TAKE A QUICK GLANCE OF THAT. BUT THE MAIN GIST OF THIS IS THAT OUR REVENUES GO TO A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT FUNDS. AND SOME OF THOSE FUNDS ARE DEDICATED TO SPECIFIC AND CERTAIN OPERATIONS OR CERTAIN THINGS SUPPORTING THOSE FUNDS ARE A VARIETY OF REVENUES. AND WE'RE GOING TO START WITH PROPERTY TAXES. SO RIGHT NOW JUST WHAT WE HAVE PROGRAMED INTO THE BUDGET IS ABOUT 8.8 MILLION IN PROPERTY TAXES PROJECTED FOR FY 25. AND THAT IS SPLIT BETWEEN OUR MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS FOR THE GENERAL FUND AND THEN ALSO OUR DEBT SERVICE. SO OUR INS RATE IS WHAT IT'S CALLED. AND THEN KIND OF ESTIMATES FOR FY 20 VALUES OF WHAT'S WHAT'S BAKED INTO THAT 8.8 MILLION SO FAR IS WE'VE SEEN TAXABLE VALUES INCREASE BY ABOUT 18%, COMPARED TO THE PRIOR YEAR. AND THEN OUR NEW GROWTH IS LOOKING AT ABOUT 15% OF TOTAL VALUES. AND THE VALUE SPLIT RIGHT NOW IS ABOUT 48% COMMERCIAL, 52% RESIDENTIAL.
SO WE'RE HOVERING RIGHT AROUND THAT 5050 SPLIT WE'VE BEEN EXPERIENCING INCREASES IN RESIDENTIAL GROWTH AS ESPECIALLY BECAUSE WE'RE CONTINUING TO BUILD OUT. AND, HOPEFULLY, THOUGH AS WE CONTINUE TO SEE COMMERCIAL COME ONLINE, THAT NUMBER WILL EVEN OUT EVEN MORE SO FOR CLARITY, FOR PUBLIC, YOU'RE SEEING WHAT YOU'RE SEEING OUT. THERE IS ABOUT 3% CURRENT PROPERTY INCREASE. YES. AND 15% NEW PROPERTIES. YES OKAY. OKAY. SO SUPPORTING WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT PROPERTY TAXES AND WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE NUMBERS. THE PROPERTY TAXES ARE A RESULT OF WHAT REVENUE RATES WHAT TAX RATE IS ADOPTED. SO AND THERE'S A COUPLE DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT THE STATE LEGISLATURE HAS LAID OUT. SO THE RATE THAT WE ALWAYS START WITH WHEN CALCULATING TAX RATES AND THAT THE COUNTY IS WORKING WITH IS THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE. SO THAT'S THE RATE THAT PRODUCES THE EXACT SAME AMOUNT OF REVENUE ON THE SAME TAX. SAME PROPERTIES ARE TAXED.
THE PRIOR YEAR. AND FOR US RIGHT NOW THAT'S ABOUT 0.294. AND IT'S WOULD PRODUCE ABOUT 8 MILLION.
SO OUR CURRENT RATE RIGHT NOW AT 0.295, OUR ESTIMATES ARE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN ARE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN WHAT WE BUDGETED. SO FAR, AT 9.1, WE'RE JUST WAITING TO SEE WHAT THE COUNTY GIVES BACK TO US. BEFORE WE HAVE A CONFIRMED NUMBER ON THAT. AND THEN OUR VOTER APPROVED RATE, WHICH IS THE RATE THAT YOU CAN GO UP TO WITHOUT HOLDING A TAX ELECTION, AND WHAT IT DOES IS IT PRODUCES THE SAME AMOUNT OF REVENUE PLUS ABOUT AN ADDITIONAL 3.5% TO COVER ADDITIONAL MAINTENANCE OPERATION COSTS, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE OF INFLATION OR ANY RISES IN
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PRICES, NEEDS FOR NEW POSITIONS AND ALSO DEBT. AND THEN THE LAST RATE OPTION THAT THERE IS THE DE MINIMIS. AND THAT'S, IF YOU WERE TO GO UP TO THAT, IT WOULD BE ABOUT, THE 0.3, THE $0.30 PRODUCES ABOUT 9.6 MILLION. AND ESSENTIALLY THE DE MINIMIS RATE IS FOR SMALL TOWNS. IT PRODUCES THE SAME AMOUNT AS THE VOTER APPROVED RATE, BUT PLUS AN ADDITIONAL 500,000 ON TOP OF THAT. SO THAT IDEA THAT SMALL TOWNS SOMETIMES HAVE LARGE PURCHASES, LIKE A FIRE TRUCK IS WHAT THEY TALK ABOUT. AND THE LEGISLATURE, THE REASON IT GOT PUSHED THROUGH. AND YOU NEED THAT EXTRA LITTLE BUMP IN ORDER TO GET WHAT YOU NEED. SO RIGHT NOW WE WOULD LOOK AT STAYING OBVIOUSLY WITH THE TWO NINE, FIVE, THIS IS THIS CHART IS JUST TO SHOW WHERE WE FALL ON THAT RANGE OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS. AND THIS IS PRELIMINARY STILL JUST WANT TO SAY THAT UP FRONT. WE'RE WAITING JUST FROM THE COUNTY TO GET BACK WHAT EACH OF THESE RATES ACTUALLY ARE FROM THEIR CALCULATIONS. HOW LONG HAVE WE BEEN AT .29, FIVE, 20 PLUS YEARS. SO NICE. YES. SO LOOKING TO HOLD THAT STEADY. SO SALES TAXES IS ANOTHER BIG PART OF OUR REVENUE. AND ESPECIALLY FOR THE GENERAL FUND. SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE PROJECTING ABOUT 3.7 MILLION IN SALES TAXES FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR, THE GENERAL FUND WOULD GET ABOUT 1.9 MILLION EDC AND CDC, ABOUT 660,000 EACH. AND THEN THE NEW SPORTS VENUE FUND THAT WE SPED UP, SET UP THIS LAST YEAR WOULD GET 440,000 TO HELP COVER THE DALLAS STAR CENTER AND THE DEBT SERVICE FOR THAT. SO AND AS WE'RE SEEING RIGHT NOW, SALES TAXES, THEY HAVE CONTINUED TO MOVE UP. YOU CAN SEE IN THAT CHART ON THE RIGHT THAT THE ACTUAL HAS CONTINUED TO MOVE UP OVER THE YEARS. AND EVEN THIS YEAR WITH OUR PROJECTIONS FOR FINISHING OUT THE YEAR, WE'RE EXPECTING IT TO GO UP EVEN MORE SO THROUGH FY 24. SO FAR, WE'VE COLLECTED ABOUT 2.5 MILLION. AND JUST AS A REMINDER, WE'RE ALWAYS TWO MONTHS BEHIND ON COLLECTING SALES TAXES. SO, THAT JULY NUMBER IS ACTUALLY FOR, MAY, SO IT'S REALLY THROUGH MAY, BUT WE'RE SEEING 22% OVER THE LAST YEAR. AND THE GROWTH IS REALLY BEING DRIVEN BY LOCAL AND REMOTE RETAIL SALES, WHOLESALE AND THEN DINING AND RESTAURANT INDUSTRIES. IT LOOKS LIKE ON THIS CHART HERE, THIS EDC, CDC SHOULD SAY 660 K EACH, EACH SORRY. YES. YES. SO YEP. NO, NO.THAT'S A GREAT CATCH. SO IT SHOULD BE 660 K EACH. SO ABOUT, CLOSE TO 1.3. BUT YEAH THE STORY OF SALES TAXES IS A CONTINUES TO GO UP. BUT WE TEND TO BUDGET SALES TAXES, RELATIVELY CONSERVATIVE JUST BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A VOLATILE VOLATILE SALES SOURCE OR, I'M SORRY, REVENUE SOURCE. SO OUR UTILITY REVENUE THIS FUNDS OUR UTILITY FUND FOR WATER AND WASTEWATER. AND THIS IS SALES SINCE OCTOBER 2020, THROUGH JUNE 2024. SO YOU CAN SEE ON THE BOTTOM WE HAVE SEWER SALES. ON THE TOP WE HAVE WATER SALES, SEWER SALES HAVE INCREASED OVER TIME, BUT RELATIVELY RELATIVELY FLAT COMPARED TO WATER. WATER INCREASES AT A MORE RAPID RATE OVER TIME, AND AT A HIGHER IT JUST IT'S A MORE EXPENSIVE AND IT FLUCTUATES AND IT FLUCTUATES.
SO, AND YOU CAN SEE THE FLUCTUATION, ESPECIALLY DURING THE DIFFERENT SUMMER MONTHS. SO THAT UTILITY REVENUE THAT WE'RE BRINGING IN, IT'S WE'RE PREDICTING ABOUT 10.6 MILLION IN WATER SALES, 8.6 MILLION IN SEWER SALES. AND THE INCREASES THAT WE'RE PROJECTING IS DRIVEN BY INCREASED RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL GROWTH. OBVIOUSLY, MORE PLACES MEANS MORE PEOPLE NEED WATER, AND THUS THE SALES GO UP. NOW, THE EXPENSE IS SUPPORTED BY THE UTILITY.
REVENUE ARE ABOUT 12.7 MILLION IN WHOLESALE COSTS. WATER AND SEWER COSTS, AND IT ALSO SUPPORTS THE DEBT SERVICE FOR WATER AND SEWER CAPITAL PROJECTS. AND THAT DEBT SERVICE IS EXPECTED TO BE ABOUT 3.1 MILLION. THE CHART ON THE RIGHT. THIS REALLY SHOWS THE BREAKDOWN OF THOSE COSTS. WE HAVE VARIABLE COSTS OF THINGS LIKE WHO'S ON THE PAYROLL, EQUIPMENT, HOW MUCH WE'RE BUYING FOR THAT, BUT THEN WE ALSO HAVE FIXED COSTS. AND THOSE FIXED COSTS ARE REALLY WHOLESALE WATER AND THE DEBT SERVICE. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, ABOUT 75% OF THOSE COSTS THAT WE HAVE, THAT ARE SUPPORTED BY REVENUE ARE FIXED COSTS. IT'S THINGS THAT WE DON'T REALLY GET TO CONTROL, BEYOND HOW MANY PROJECTS WE DO. AND WHEN IT COMES TO THE WHOLESALE RATES, SINCE WE BUY FROM OTHERS, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OUTSIDE OF OUR HANDS. SO OTHER REVENUE SOURCES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT PROJECTIONS FOR THE YEAR, ABOUT TWO POINT MILLION IN OR ABOUT 2 MILLION IN DEVELOPMENT FEES AND PERMITS, CLOSE TO A MILLION IN FRANCHISE FEES. THE CONTRACT POLICE SERVICES 680,000. THAT INCLUDES WHAT WE HAVE WITH HARVEST AND ALSO WITH DISH, HOPEFULLY WITH DISH. AND THEN 600,000 IN COURT FINES AND 700,000 IN HOTEL TAX. SO THE NEXT SECTION IS JUST GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE A LITTLE BIT OF A LOOK AT THOSE REVENUES COMPARED TO THE BUDGET REQUESTS THAT WE'VE HAD SO FAR. AND ALSO LOOK JUST BACK AT THOSE MAINTAIN SERVICE REQUESTS AND THOSE NEW
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SERVICE REQUESTS. SO YOU ALL SAW THIS CHART ON THE LAST PRESENTATION. SO THIS SHOWS JUST WHAT OUR REVENUE IS, WHAT OUR EXPENDITURES AND KIND OF THAT FUNDING GAP. SO LOOKING AT REVENUES AND SINCE THE LAST TIME WE CAN SEE HERE THAT REVENUES ARE GOING TO BE ABOUT 12.25 MILLION AND IT EXCEEDS WHAT WE NEED TO MAINTAIN SERVICES. SO WE'RE WE'RE LOOKING PRETTY GOOD ON THAT FRONT. AND IN ORDER TO PROVIDE THE SAME QUALITY OF SERVICE AND QUANTITY OF SERVICE TO RESIDENTS GOING FORWARD, WHAT'S OUTSTANDING RIGHT NOW, IS JUST SOME OF THOSE NEW SERVICE REQUESTS UP THERE AT THE TOP, AND WE'RE SHORT ABOUT AS OF RIGHT NOW. ONCE AGAIN, BUDGET IS STILL UNDER CONSTRUCTION. WE'RE COMING UP ON HAVING THE PROPOSED DONE. STILL A LITTLE UNDER CONSTRUCTION, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 321,000 JUST SHORT TO MEET ALL OF THE NEW SERVICE REQUESTS THAT WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT. SO STARTING WITH THE MAINTENANCE MAINTAIN SERVICE REQUESTS, THIS IS JUST A LIST I BELIEVE YOU ALL HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO SEE IN THE LAST PRESENTATION, AND IT WAS INCLUDED ON SOME OF THOSE FUN TABLES THAT WERE SENT OUT. THIS IS JUST SHOWING WHERE THOSE WHAT THOSE REQUESTS ARE. WHAT FUND WILL BE SUPPORTING THOSE REQUESTS. AND THEN THE POTENTIAL COST. ONE OF THOSE REQUESTS THAT WE'VE HAD IS FOR POLICE SALARY ADJUSTMENTS TO HELP MAINTAIN SERVICE. NOW, THIS IS A HIGH PRIORITY OF COUNCIL, ENSURING THAT OUR OFFICERS THAT THEY'RE RECEIVING ONE, THE PAY THAT THEY NEED, BUT ALSO A PAY THAT'S COMPETITIVE WITH OTHER TOWNS AND CITIES IN THE AREA SO THAT WE CAN REALLY PROMOTE RETENTION AND ALSO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF OFFICERS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO HIRE TO BRING THEM IN. THE OVERVIEW OF THE ADJUSTMENTS ARE ESSENTIALLY, WE WOULD INCREASE THE STARTING BASE SALARY AND THE PAY AT EACH STEP, THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE STEPS WOULD INCREASE. IT WOULD LENGTHEN OUT THE SALARY RANGE FOR OFFICERS. AND THEN THIS HAS BEEN REQUESTED BY THE POLICE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION. AND I'M GOING TO SHOW ONE MORE SLIDE. BUT WE HAVE SOME REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE FROM THE POLICE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION WHO, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR, THEY'RE HAPPY TO TAKE A SECOND AND ANSWER THOSE. SO JUST TO VISUALIZE WHAT THAT SALARY ADJUSTMENT LOOKS LIKE, WE'RE LOOKING AT CURRENTLY WE HAVE A BASE OF ABOUT 72,000 THAT EXTENDS ALL THE WAY UP TO A STEP TEN. THAT TAPS OUT AT ABOUT 80, 88,000. WHAT WOULD HAPPEN WITH THIS REQUEST IS YOU SEE A 1.5% SHIFT IN THE BASE. SO WE'D SLIDE THE RANGE UP THE BASE SALARY WOULD START AT 73,000. WE WOULD INCREASE THE DISTANCE BETWEEN EACH OF THE STEPS BY A HALF PERCENT. RIGHT NOW IT'S 2%. IN BETWEEN STEPS, IT WOULD MOVE TO 2.5% BETWEEN STEPS. AND THAT WOULD PRODUCE AN ENDING SALARY AT STEP TEN OF ABOUT 9093, 94,000, BUT AS I SAID, THE POLICE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION REPRESENTATIVES ARE HERE. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THEM ABOUT THIS AND THEIR REQUEST, I'M SURE THEY'RE MORE THAN HAPPY TO TAKE THOSE QUESTIONS. OKAY. JUST SINCE WE HAVE A NEW ASSOCIATION, COME UP AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF REAL QUICK TO COUNCIL. OKAY I'M, OFFICER DANIEL MARTINEZ. I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE NORTH LAKE POLICE ASSOCIATION. HEY, I'M DOUG WILLIAMS, I'M A PATROL SERGEANT HERE, AND I'M THE TREASURER FOR THE ASSOCIATION.HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE, JUST FOR ALL, OBVIOUSLY SUPPORT OUR POLICE, BUT, HELP THE COUNCIL UNDERSTAND THIS REQUEST AND WHAT YOU'RE SEEING OUT THERE. YOU'RE THE NUMBERS GUY. YOU WANT TO ANSWER THIS? THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH DREW AND CHIEF CRAWFORD ON FOR OVER THE PAST FEW MONTHS. WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS HELP WITH TWO THINGS RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION. I KNOW, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE STRUGGLES THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING WITH RECRUITMENT, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE FAULT OF ANY ONE PERSON. IT'S JUST, PART OF THE WAY THAT I THINK WE CAN FIX THAT IS BEING MORE COMPETITIVE WITH GETTING LATERAL OFFICERS HERE. WE'VE BEEN HIRING NEW OFFICER AFTER NEW OFFICER THAT WE HAVE TO SEND TO THE ACADEMY, AND, AND A LOT OF THOSE OFFICERS HAVE TURNED OUT REALLY, REALLY WELL. THE DOWNSIDE IS IT'S LIKE A YEAR LONG PROCESS FROM POSTING THE POSITION, TAKING THE APPLICATION OFFICER, GOING TO THE ACADEMY, 4 OR 5 MONTHS OF FIELD TRAINING. SO IF WE CAN BE COMPETITIVE AND MAYBE PULL AN OFFICER FROM KELLER OR WATAUGA OR SOMEONE WHO'S WHO'S A LITTLE BIT MORE, I GUESS PLUG AND PLAY, IF YOU WILL, AND THE WAY, THE WAY YOU'RE GOING TO DO THAT IS YOU HAVE TO COMPETE ON, ON THAT LATERAL SALARY. SO THIS GIVES STAFF THE ABILITY TO BRING IN AN OFFICER, YOU KNOW, THAT MAY HAVE TEN YEARS SOMEWHERE ELSE AT A HIGHER STEP. YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF COMING IN AT, AT THAT LOWER RANGE. SO AND AT THE SAME TIME GUYS LIKE, YOU KNOW, HE'S NOT IN HERE, BUT CAPER, HE'S BEEN HERE FOR LIKE 12 YEARS. IT HELPS RETAIN HIM BECAUSE HE'S GOING TO MOVE UP TO THAT. STEP TEN, AND IT'S GOING TO BE HARD FOR HIM TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE AND, AND START AT THAT SAME SALARY. THAT'S WHAT I'D WANT TO KNOW IS, DOES THIS MAKE US COMPETITIVE ENOUGH TO BRING
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OFFICERS OVER? THAT WILL BE HAPPY STAYING HERE? IT'S A HUGE STEP FORWARD. THIS IS A BIG, BIG IMPROVEMENT. YOU KNOW, THIS IS, I THINK ON THE STUDY THAT I DID THAT I WORKED WITH DREW AND CHIEF ON, WE LOOKED AT LIKE 28 DEPARTMENTS, AND THIS GETS US CLOSE TO WHERE WE WHERE WE NEED TO BE. ONE. YEAH. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MAKES ME FEEL SAFEST LIVING HERE IS THAT ALL OF OUR POLICE OFFICERS LOVE POLICING IN THIS COMMUNITY. SO I FEEL SAFER BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE TIRED AND GROUCHY AND HATING WHERE THEY WORK. POLICE OFFICERS. SO I WANT TO DO WHATEVER WE CAN TO KEEP THAT GOING. YEAH, WE HAVE A GREAT GROUP. AND THIS IS JUST A WAY THAT, TO KEEP THEM HERE AND TO HOPEFULLY GET SOME MORE QUALITY PEOPLE OVER. I LOVE THE FACT THAT YOU GUYS ARE FINALLY HAVING ASSOCIATION FORUMS. THAT'S THAT'S WONDERFUL. AND THIS SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING THAT'S ABSOLUTELY REQUIRED. WE'VE BEEN CHALLENGED WITH THIS, AS YOU SAID, OVER THE YEARS, AND HAVING THAT INPUT AND THE INDEPENDENT RESEARCH YOUR ASSOCIATION IS PROVIDING JUST WONDERFUL. SO THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT WITH US. IS THERE ANY OTHER, QUESTIONS FOR THEM.SO THESE STAFF TURN I NEED TO FORGET THAT. I KNOW I DID MINE THE OPPOSITE. I CAN HEAR YOU SI.
OOPS. TURN THE STEPS INTO YEARS FOR ME. SO IT'S BASS WOULD BE YOUR FIRST YEAR HERE. AND THEN EVERY YEAR AFTER THAT, IF THAT'S. I THINK I'M SAYING THAT. RIGHT, SO COMING IN, YOU'D START AT 73, YOU KNOW, ONCE YOU'VE BEEN HERE FOR A YEAR, YOU GO TO STEP ONE. SO IT'S REALLY AN 11 YEAR, 11 YEAR PLAN. IT'S WE HAVE EVERYBODY MOVE UP A STEP ON JANUARY 1ST. SO THE BASE DEPENDING ON WHEN YOU'RE HIRED, YOU MAY BE IN BASE FOR 11 MONTHS. YOU MAY BE IN BASE FOR A MONTH. AND THAT'S JUST YOU'VE GOT TO PICK A TIME TO DO IT. SO THERE'S ALWAYS SOMEBODY THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE TREATED THE SAME. RIGHT. AND SO STILL DOING IT A YEAR WHEN WE TURN IN THE BOTTOM REQUESTED GROUP. OR ARE YOU STRETCHING THAT OUT MORE. NO IT'S ALL THOSE ARE ALL A YEAR.
WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS THE STEPS IN BLUE. THE CURRENT ONES ARE 2%, AND SO AUTOMATICALLY EVERY POLICE OFFICER GETS A 2% INCREASE. THEY GO UP A STEP. NOW OUR ORIGINAL PROPOSAL WAS TO GIVE EVERYBODY THEIR 2% PLUS SHIFT, 3%. BUT IN TALKING WITH THE ASSOCIATION AND COLLABORATING AND IT WAS A GREA, GREAT PROCESS, WAS LET'S LOOK AT ALL THE DIFFERENT WAYS WE CAN STRETCH IT AND SHIFT IT AND HAVE PEOPLE JUMP TO THEIR YEARS OF SERVICE. SO THAT'S HOW WE CAME UP WITH THAT. BUT THE ORANGE IS 2.5% BETWEEN STEPS. SO NOW EVERY POLICE OFFICER AT JANUARY WILL MOVE UP 2.5%. BUT WE ALSO SHIFTED THE WHOLE PROGRAM. AND ALSO IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE TEN AT 2% AND YOU GO TEN AT 2.5%, YOU STRETCH THE ENTIRE RANGE, WHICH HELPS LIKE, OF IT'S COMPOUND INTEREST. RIGHT? RIGHT. AND SO AS YOU GET HIGHER UP, YOU MOVE UP MUCH HIGHER COMPOUND INTEREST. YES, SIR. AFTER TEN YEARS, YOU CAN'T GO TO ANOTHER STEP. THAT'S CORRECT. YOU TOP OUT AT AT STEP TEN, AND THAT'S UNDERSTOOD. AND THE POLICE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION UNDERSTANDS THAT AS WELL. THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT YOU GET FROM A STEP SYSTEM. YOU GET YOU GET GUARANTEED INCREASES FOR TEN YEARS. BUT ONCE YOU TOP OUT, YOU'RE, YOU'RE AT THAT TOP AMOUNT. YOU HAVE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PROMOTION AND OTHER RANKS. BUT THAT'S BUT WE THE SYSTEM THAT EVERY OTHER OTHER DEPARTMENT USES, WE STILL DO COES AT TIME OR COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENTS. WE THAT WAS THAT KIND OF STUFF STILL COMES INTO PLAY AS WELL. SO IT'S NOT CAPPED THERE WILL BE SHIFTS IN THE STEP SYSTEM OVER TIME AS WELL AS A PATROL OFFICER AND THAT THEY'RE CAPPED AS A PATROL OFFICER. AND THEN ONCE YOU'VE BEEN THERE FOR TEN YEARS, THE WAYS TO MOVE UP ARE THROUGH PROMOTION AND COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENTS. RIGHT, SERGEANT? WE'RE WE'RE, CHIEF IS POSSIBLY LOOKING AT A CORPORAL POSITION. KIND OF A HALFWAY POINT BETWEEN OFFICER AND SERGEANT. KIND OF A REGULAR FIELD TRAINING OFFICER POSITION. AND THEN ARE THERE STEPS ONCE YOUR SERGEANT? ARE THERE STEPS WITHIN SERGEANT AND STEPS WITHIN THE OTHER ONE? YEAH. SO THE SERGEANTS HAVE EIGHT, EIGHT STEPS, BUT YES, THERE IS STEPS WITHIN THAT. AND THEN DOWN THE ROAD, IF YOU HAD OTHER POSITIONS, WHETHER IT BE, YOU KNOW, A CORPORAL POSITION THERE WOULD BE STEPS WITHIN THAT THAT'S COMMON. YOU KNOW, IN LAW ENFORCEMENT. SO JUST, YOU KNOW, WE DID, WE REPRESENT 19 MEMBERS, THE, DREW'S BEEN REALLY GREAT. CHIEF'S BEEN REALLY GREAT. THIS PROCESS. WE DID HAVE A VOTE. WE HAD A MEMBERSHIP VOTE, SOME PEOPLE COULD NOT MAKE THAT VOTE DUE TO ARRANGEMENTS, BUT WE HAD 85% OF THOSE MEMBERS IN ATTENDANCE. THIS WAS A UNANIMOUS VOTE. THIS WAS NOT A SPLIT. THIS WASN'T A WELL HALF OF THEM WANTED IT. HALF OF IT, YOU KNOW, HALF OF THEM DID. AND THIS WAS UNANIMOUS FOR THIS REQUEST. YES UNRELATED IS THE POLICE ASSOCIATION SOMETHING THAT THE COMMUNITY CAN SUPPORT? WE'RE WE'RE WORKING ON THAT RIGHT NOW. OKAY. YES, MA'AM. I ASSUME
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YOU'RE LET US KNOW THE CPR AND THINGS LIKE THAT. YES WONDERFUL. WE LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING MORE NEWS ON THAT. SO I HOPE TO SEE YOU GUYS ON THE AGENDA AT SOME POINT TO EXPLAIN YOUR ARRANGEMENTS. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. I DO HAVE A QUESTION. SO WITHIN THIS, LET'S SAY AN OFFICER GOES TO THE FBI ACADEMY OR SPECIALTY TRAINING OF SOME SORT THAT BRINGS SOMETHING ELSE TO THE DEPARTMENT. IS THERE BECAUSE THEY BRING THAT EXTRA THEY ARE NOW OF VALUE TO ANOTHER DEPARTMENT. RIGHT. SO IS THERE. AND I'M BECAUSE THE DEPARTMENT THAT I WAS IN AT ONE POINT IN TIME, IF YOU WENT TO CERTAIN SCHOOLS OR DIFFERENT SCHOOLS AND CONTINUED YOUR EDUCATION, YOU YOU WERE MORE VALUABLE. SO THEY PAID YOU MORE MONEY. THE TOWN THE TOWN OFFERS A GENEROUS CERTIFICATION, PAY FOR TEACHERS. YOU KNOW, THOSE CLASSES HELP YOU ADVANCE WITH YOUR TCOLE CERTIFICATIONS. AND THE HIGHER YOU GO IN THAT CERTIFICATION PROGRAM, THE TOWNS, QUITE FRANKLY, PAYS MORE THAN MOST OF THE AGENCIES AROUND HERE WHEN IT COMES TO THAT CERTIFICATION. PAY SO DIRECTLY FOR ONE CLASS. NO, YOU WOULDN'T GET THAT. BUT THAT WOULD HELP YOU MOVE UP IN YOUR CERTIFICATION AND YOU WOULD GET CERTIFICATION PAY FROM FROM THAT. THEY ALSO DO DEGREE PAY.SO PERFECT. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING UP. THANK YOU. GOOD TO SEE YOU GUYS. AND BACK TO OUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED PROGRAMING. BACK TO IT OKAY. MORE CHARTS AND SLIDE. MORE CHARTS AND SLIDES.
SO OKAY. ONLY 97 MORE OR YOU KNOW DREW LIMITED ME TO ABOUT 25. SO DON'T WORRY. ALL RIGHT.
IS ANY OF IT DIFFERENT THAN THE LAST TIME YOU WERE UP HERE? YEAH YEAH OKAY A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL. OH, GOOD. MORE DETAIL. I'M HAPPY. YES. I WANT TO TEST YOU ON THE DIFFERENCES, ALEX. SO JUST LOOKING AT FUNDING DISTRIBUTION. THIS IS A SLIDE WE DIDN'T HAVE LAST TIME. I JUST THOUGHT IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO TAKE A LOOK AT JUST WHERE FOR THOSE MAINTAIN SERVICE REQUESTS, HOW THAT IS BROKEN DOWN. OFFICERS AND DETECTIVES OBVIOUSLY ALL COME OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND AND THE MAINTENANCE WORKERS AND THE METER TECH WOULD BE UTILITY FUND THAT DEVELOPMENT ANALYST SPLIT THREE WAYS EDC, CDC IN GENERAL, AND THEN THE STORMWATER INSPECTOR. THAT ONE IS FUNDED VIA THE STORMWATER FUND, BUT VIA A TRANSFER FROM THE GENERAL FUND. SO ESSENTIALLY IT ENDS UP BEING GENERAL FUND MONEY. BUT THE WAY IT'S BECAUSE WE DO FUND ACCOUNTING AND FUND BUDGETING, IT ENDS UP BEING FROM THE STORMWATER FUND. SO THE NEW SERVICES THAT WE HAVE ARE TRAFFIC MARKINGS AND SIGN CREW AND THE VEHICLE RECORDS CLERK AND IT ANALYST THAT FUNDING DISTRIBUTION, A MAJORITY OF THOSE NEW SERVICES WOULD COME OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND. THE RECORDS CLERK, THE TRAFFIC MARKING AND SIGNS CREW. EACH WOULD BE 100% OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND. THE IT ANALYST WE'RE FUNDING OUT OF THE TECHNOLOGY FUND, BUT IT WOULD BE SPLIT ABOUT 70% IN THE GENERAL FUND AND THE REMAINING 30% BETWEEN A NUMBER OF OTHER FUNDS THAT HAVE PERSONNEL ATTACHED TO THEM AND USE EQUIPMENT. AND THAT'S JUST A QUICK REVIEW OF THOSE BUDGET REQUESTS AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TRYING TO FIT INTO THE BUDGET REAL QUICKLY. SORRY TO INTERRUPT, JOHN. GO AHEAD. COUNCIL MEMBER, FOWLER ASKED TO PRIORITIZE. THEY WERE MORE OR LESS PRIORITIZED, BUT IT'S REALLY MAINTAIN SERVICES. LIKE JOHN SAID, KEEP UP WITH GROWTH AND PROVIDE THE SAME LEVEL OF SERVICE. THE NEW SERVICES WERE, STILL KIND OF KEEPING UP, BUT NEW PROGRAMS, NEW ACTIVITIES AND SO IT LOOKS LIKE RIGHT NOW, ESPECIALLY WITH THE GENERAL FUND SUPPORTING THE STORMWATER FUND, WE ARE ABLE TO DO THE MAINTAIN SERVICES, BUT WE'RE UNABLE TO DO THE NEW SERVICES AT THIS TIME. BUT ONE OF THE BIGGEST NEW SERVICES BEING THE SIGN, STRIPING CREW AND STUFF. WE DID TALK ABOUT DOING SOME OF THAT AS A ONE TIME FROM CASH. RIGHT SO WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO BUY THE EQUIPMENT AND POSSIBLY, SPORADICALLY ASSIGN STAFF TO THAT, NOT HAVE ANYBODY SPECIFICALLY TRAINED AT IT. BUT WE DO HAVE PROGRAM TO BUY THE EQUIPMENT. AND REMEMBER ALSO THE TRAFFIC AND MARKETING, MARKETING AND SCIENCE CREW IS PHASE ONE.
THERE'S IT'S THE EQUIPMENT, TWO POSITIONS. BUT TO FULLY MAN IT, WE NEED A THIRD POSITION WHICH WILL THEN FURTHER INCREASE IN OUTLYING YEARS. I WAS JUST TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO LOOK AT THAT 320, 320 K DEFICIT. WE WERE LOOKING AT THEIR 320 ABOUT 320. YEAH. SO YEAH. SO I WAS LOOKING AT WAYS TO NIBBLE AWAY AT THAT. SO WE ALREADY HAVE THE EQUIPMENT PROGRAMED IN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR BECAUSE WE DO HAVE SOME, WE DO HAVE A FUND BALANCE AVAILABL. SO WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO PURCHASE ALL OUR ONE TIME EQUIPMENT WITH THOSE ONE TIME, NOT PROFIT BUT REVENUES OVER EXPENSES IN THIS FISCAL YEAR, WHICH THEN WHICH THEN JUST BRINGS IT DOWN TO THE ESSENTIALLY THE PERSONNEL COSTS. SO $300,000 IS ABOUT ONE POINT ON OUR TAX RATE. IS THAT A
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CORRECT STATEMENT? YEAH SO WE NEED TO DECIDE DO WE NEED THAT POSITION OR WE NEED THIS OR THAT OR DO WE WANT TO RAISE TAXES? I KNOW WHAT MY OPINION IS, BUT YEAH, I'D RATHER NOT BE DONE. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT NOT ANSWERING THAT QUESTION BY ANY MEANS, BUT I DON'T WANT TO BE DONE TALKING ABOUT THE RECORDS CLERK. THAT'S ALL I WANT TO MAKE THAT KNOWN. WE'LL GET THERE. I GUESS THERE'S A DIFFERENT OPTION HAVING PART TIME HELP OR SOMETHING ELSE THAT'S LIKE A CREATIVE WAY TO GET HER HELP. AND AS I SAID, THE BUDGET IS STILL IN PROCESS. WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR NUMBERS TO COME BACK FROM THE COUNTY REGARDING OUR TAX RATE AND WHAT THAT WOULD PRODUCE. AND WE TEND TO BUDGET IN THE LEAD UP TO THE PROPOSED CONSERVATIVELY, WE'D RATHER WE'D RATHER NOT OVEREXTEND OURSELVES AND TRY AND ASK FOR TOO MUCH AND THEN HAVE TO REALLY FIGURE OUT HOW TO CUT BACK. AND THE IT ANALYST WOULD TAKE SOME OF, THE TASK AWAY FROM THE TOWN SECRETARY, HELP WITH, LOG IN HELPING BOARD MEMBERS WITH LOG INS AND, HELP US WITH SOME OF THE ALL THE COMPUTERS AND, CAMERAS AND STUFF LIKE THAT SO THAT THAT POSITION WOULD ACTUALLY HELP THE TOWN SECRETARY AS WELL, NOT AS DIRECTLY AS A RECORDS CLERK. WE'RE STILL STRIVING FOR THAT. BUT THOSE TWO POSITIONS, BOTH OFFLOAD SOME SOME OF THE TASKS. YEAH. IN PAST YEARS FOR SOME OF THE NEWER MEMBERS HERE, THE, THE CONSERVATIVENESS YOUR UNDERSTATING EVEN A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE THEY BUDGET EXTREMELY CONSERVATIVELY ON ALL THESE FUNDS AND ALL THE, THE PROJECTED INCOMES AND SOMEHOW BY MAGIC, I THINK IT USUALLY JUST WORKS OUT. SO WE YES, WE YEAH WE ADD STAFF BECAUSE I, I NEVER WANT TO HAVE A STAFF MEMBER. I NEVER WANT TO GIVE THEM A PINK SLIP FOR A, FOR A, A RIFF FOR A DOWNSIZING. I MEAN, IF THEY'RE NOT PERFORMING, WE'LL DO THAT. BUT YES, WE'RE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT ADDING PEOPLE, BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WE HAVE THE FUNDING TO DO THAT. WE ALWAYS HAVE THE WORK, AND I'VE GOT A GREAT STAFF THAT WORKS VERY HARD AND WORKS VERY, EFFECTIVELY AND PRODUCTIVELY. BUT YES, SIR. SO I HAVE A, JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY AND KIND OF A OUT OF THE BOX THOUGHT, BUT WE KNOW THAT MARKING AND SIGNS CREW, IF WE OUTSOURCE THAT TO A PRIVATE ENTITY, IT'S QUITE EXPENSIVE, AS WELL. AND I KNOW THAT THE SAVINGS, THE WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT WAS THE SAVINGS OVER TIME AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE IS THERE A WAY TO DO, SAY, A PARTNERSHIP WITH ANOTHER TOWN THAT IS KIND OF IN THIS LIMBO STATE TO WHERE THOSE DUTIES COULD BE SPLIT FROM SOMEBODY CLOSE BY? IS THAT A POSSIBILITY? LIKE, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW. SO, THAT IS A POSSIBILITY. I THINK, WE DO CONTRACT WITH THIRD PARTY.THE STRAIGHTER ROADS. S CURVE WAS RECENTLY DONE. WE DO IT KIND OF AS AS NEEDED. I THINK WE'RE AT THE SIZE NOW THAT WE COULD. AND WE WOULDN'T HAVE BROUGHT THIS FORWARD IF WE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH WORK TO KEEP SOMEBODY BUSY. YOU KNOW, HIRING ANOTHER TOWN TO DO IT WHEN THEY HAVE THEIR PRIORITIES AND THEIR MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER SAYING, WHAT ABOUT MY STREETS, IT CAN BE DONE. WE I MEAN, CONTRACTING IS IN A SENSE, COST SHARING, BECAUSE WE ONLY PAY FOR WHAT WE NEED, I MEAN, I, WE COULD LOOK AT MUCH LIKE, DISH. HIRING OUT TO ANOTHER TOWN, BUT WE'D STILL HAVE TO STAFF IT UP. WE STILL HAVE TO MAKE SURE IT'S VIABLE IN OUR BUDGET. WELL WE'LL CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THESE THINGS CREATIVELY. MOVE ON. ALL RIGHT? WE'VE GOT AT LEAST ANOTHER WEEK BEFORE THE PROPOSED TO DO THAT. SO AND THEN AFTER. OKAY. SO JUST A QUICK REVIEW OF CAPITAL PROJECTS. THIS IS SOMETHING WE WANTED TO JUST DO A QUICK BUDGET REVIEW OVER CAPITAL PROJECTS.
RIGHT NOW WE'RE BUDGETED FOR ABOUT 89.7 MILLION ON CAPITAL PROJECTS IN FY 25. A MAJORITY OF THAT IS BUILDING PROJECTS WITH THE DALLAS STAR CENTER AT ABOUT 45.3, AND THE ASSOCIATED INFRASTRUCTURE DOWN IN AROUND THAT AREA, WE HAVE ABOUT 21.2 PROGRAM FOR ROAD PROJECTS AND 23.2 FOR WATER AND SEWER PROJECTS, AND THIS IS ALL FUNDING THAT, THE MAJORITY OF IT WE ALREADY HAVE THROUGH DEBT THAT WE'VE TAKEN OUT THE GEO BONDS CO BONDS TO SUPPORT THESE PROJECTS. SO PROJECTS THAT ARE NEARING COMPLETION, SO CONSTRUCTION HAS BEEN COMPLETED ON THESE FOUR KATHERINE BRANCH PHASE ONE AND WATER, SEWER AND ROADS. CLEVELAND GIBBS SOUTH AND THE SECOND NORTH GROUND STORAGE TANK. REALLY WHAT'S JUST FINISHING HIS FINAL PAYOUTS RELEASING RETAINAGE. JUST MAKING SURE ALL THE ACCOUNTS LINE UP AND THAT ANY INVOICES THAT WE
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HAVE NOT BEEN SENT, THEN WE GET THOSE AND CAN ACTUALLY PAY THOSE OUT. CURRENT PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE ONGOING, WE HAVE THE CELLULAR METER UPGRADE WE BELIEVE HAVE ALMOST ALL THE EQUIPMENT FOR THAT. SO WE'RE CLOSE TO ACTUALLY GETTING THE COMPANY ON THE GROUND TO GO OUT AND INSTALL THOSE. FOR ALL THE RESIDENTS, WE HAVE THE HOTEL CONFERENCE CENTER, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY MOVING AND GOING UP. WE HAVE THE DEN CREEK TRUNK LINE, WHICH IS JUST REALLY ENGINEERING. IS THAT JUST ENGINEERING COSTS, DREW OR IS THAT THAT'S A THAT'S I'M MIXING THOSE UP AGAIN. YES. THIS IS DOWNSIZING THAT LARGER PROJECT TO JUST CONNECT US TO THE TRA PROJECT. SO TRA HAS TAKEN OVER THAT LARGE PROJECT SINCE WE'RE PARTNERING WITH JUSTIN AND THIS IS JUST TO GET US A COUPLE OF LEGS TO CONNECT TO THAT. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY, THE DALLAS STAR CENTER AND THE ASSOCIATED CHADWICK LAKE INFRASTRUCTURE DOWN IN AROUND THAT STAR CENTER AREA. SO BROAD PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING TO END UP BEING BID THIS YEAR, WE HAVE THE FORT WORTH WHOLESALE WATER AND ADDITIONAL CAPACITY, ONE A AND ONE B, DYLAN HART WAY, KATHERINE BRANCH FORT ROAD, WATER LINES, FORT ROAD ITSELF AND THEN THE SOUTHWEST ELEVATED STORAGE TANK THERE IN THE KATHERINE BRANCH AREA. AND ALL THOSE ARE EXPECTED TO BE BID HERE IN ROUGHLY 2024 OR THE BEGINNING OF 2025. AND THEN JUST A QUICK LOOK AT FUTURE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY PROGRAMED INTO OUR TEN YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, EVERYTHING FROM A PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING, WHICH WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE STARTED SOME TIME IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS AND COMPLETE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS, ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO POTENTIAL TOWN HALL AND POLICE FACILITY, SOMETIME IN EARLY 2031, 2032. AND WITH THAT, HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS AND OR HEAR ANY COMMENTS OR ANY DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL. THANK YOU. YEAH ALL RIGHT. LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GOOD.AWESOME. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. IT IS 637. I WILL OPEN FOR PUBLIC INPUT, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY WISH TO SPEAK THIS EVENING ON ANY TOPIC GOING ONCE, TWICE? NO ONE TONIGHT. ALL RIGHT. WITH
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THAT, OUR NEXT IS CONSENT ITEMS. WE HAVE ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE ON THERE. IS THERE ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR THAT NEEDS TO BE PULLED THIS EVENING? NO ALL RIGHT. SO, YES, WE NEED TO.SORRY. WE NEED TO PULL ITEM D, WE DIDN'T PUT IN WHO YOU'D LIKE TO VOTE FOR, I THINK WE ASSUMED IT WAS WHO YOU NOMINATED, BUT, OUR PAPERWORK DOESN'T SHOW THAT, SO WE NEED A MOTION. WELL, A MOTION. PULL THAT ONE, AND THEN WE'LL PULL IT. YEAH, WE'LL JUST PULL IT. ALL RIGHT, SO I WILL TAKE A MOTION ON ITEMS A, B, C, AND E. ARE WE USING OUR SCREENS TONIGHT? OKAY, I MOTION YEAH.
THERE YOU GO. WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILOR SESSIONS. SECOND SECOND FROM MISS HOLMES. AND USE YOUR SCREENS PLEASE. MOTION PASSES 5 TO 0. UNANIMOUS AND ITEM D. SO THIS IS RESOLUTION
[4.D. Consider a Resolution of the Town of Northlake, Texas, making an appointment of one representative to the Board of Managers of the Denco Area 9-1-1 District]
MAKING APPOINTMENT REPRESENTED THE BOARD OF MANAGERS FOR 911 DISTRICT. I BELIEVE OUR NOMINEE WAS MR. CARTER. CARTER. YES, SO I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO NOMINATE HIM. I'LL SECOND IT. WELL,[4.D. VOTE]
YOU'VE ALREADY NOMINATED. VOTE FOR HIM. I VOTE FOR. THAT'S WHAT YOU MEANT. YES. SORRY. THAT'S WHAT I MEAN. AND I THINK I HEARD A SESSION FROM OR SECOND FROM MISS HOLMES. OKAY OKAY, DAD, ON THE SCREEN. AND UNANIMOUS FIVE THOUGH. THANK YOU. COUNSELORS. FIRST ACTION TONIGHT. ITEM A IS[5.A. Consider a Resolution of the Town of Northlake, Texas, approving and authorizing the Town Manager to execute Amendment No. 1 to the Design-Build Agreement with Lee Lewis Construction, Inc., for the Dallas Stars Multi-Sports Center Project to establish the Guaranteed Maximum Price (“GMP”) for early civil work, in an amount not to exceed $6,262,644.00]
RESOLUTION NORTH LAKE, TEXAS APPROVING TOWN MANAGER. EXECUTE AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE TO DESIGN BUILD AGREEMENT WITH LEE LEWIS. I BELIEVE WE HEARD THIS LAST TIME. CORRECT. AND THIS IS NOW THE ACTION. YES, SIR. YES, SIR. WE BRIEF THIS AND, THIS IS, THIS IS TO GET ALL THE EARLY WORK DONE. THIS IS ALL THE WATER LINE, SEWER LINES TO GET THE SITE PREPPED. WE ARE WORKING ON THE BUILDING ITSELF WITH THE ARCHITECTS AND MAKING, MAKING CHANGES ON THAT. BUT YOU GOT TO START BELOW THE GROUND BEFORE YOU CAN GO ABOVE THE GROUND. I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. ANY QUESTIONS? THIS IS SOMETHING WE EXPECTED. YES. NOT NEW. I'M GOOD. OKAY ALL RIGHT.[5.A. VOTE]
I'LL TAKE MOTIONS. MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED. I'LL SECOND IT. THANK YOU. MOTION FOR MISS HOLMES. AND A SECOND FROM MR. KELLY. PLEASE VOTE. IN PASSES. UNANIMOUS 5 TO 0.[5.B. Consider approval of a preliminary plat of Northlake Acres, a proposed 3-lot commercial development on a 65.74-acre tract of land in the Patrick Rock Survey, Abstract No. 1063, generally located east of Faught Road and approximately 3,700 feet north of FM 407 in the extraterritorial jurisdiction of the Town of Northlake - Case # 23-PLA00036]
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ITEM B CONSIDER APPROVAL OF PRELIMINARY PLAT. NORTH LAKE ACRES. THREE LOT COMMERCIAL.THIS IS, THIS IS BEHIND CREEK MEADOWS, THERE'S TWO PHASES, IF YOU REMEMBER, FOUR. OH SEVEN TO THE NORTH IS PHASE ONE. THIS IS PHASE TWO, NATHAN. THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE, COUNCIL'S SEEN A PRELIMINARY PLAT, THIS ONE IS BEFORE YOU BECAUSE THERE'S A WAIVER REQUESTED AS PART OF THE APPROVAL PROCESS ON THIS ONE. SO HERE'S THIS IS THE LOCATION.
THIS IS, NORTH AND EAST OF CREEK MEADOWS OFF OF FORT ROAD. THE LOCATION IS NOT IN THE TOWN LIMITS. IT'S IN OUR EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION OR ETJ, PRELIMINARY PLAT PLANS TO DIVIDE IT INTO THREE DIFFERENT LOTS, FAIRLY LARGE LOTS. PROPOSES, STREETS TO NEW STREETS TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO IT. THEY PROPOSE TO, SERVE THE DEVELOPMENT WITH WATER AND SEWER FROM A PRIVATE WELL AND SEPTIC SYSTEMS. SO NO TOWN SERVICES. YOU PROBABLY NOTICED IN YOUR PACKET THERE'S SOME COMMENTS IN THERE. SEVERAL COMMENTS, PRIMARILY RELATED TO, DRAINAGE STUDY, BUT ALSO ONE COMMENT ON, PROVISION OF, PROVIDING EVIDENCE OF GROUNDWATER SUPPLY. SO, STAFF BELIEVES THE PLAT IS ACCEPTABLE FOR CONDITIONAL APPROVAL, SUBJECT TO ALL OF THOSE REMAINING COMMENTS BEING ADDRESSED, I KNOW WE FEEL LIKE THEY'RE WORKING TOWARDS ADDRESSING THE DRAINAGE STUDY, COMMENTS. WE DON'T FEEL LIKE THOSE ARE GOING TO BE AN ISSUE, THERE IS ONE COMMENT RELATED TO, REQUIRING EVIDENCE OF GROUNDWATER SUPPLY, THIS REQUIRES A PRETTY COMPREHENSIVE PROCESS CERTIFICATION PROCESS AND THERE IS THE OPPORTUNITY TO REQUEST A WAIVER TO THAT. THIS IS A REQUIREMENT IN STATE LAW, BUT IT ALLOWS FOR APPLICANTS TO REQUEST A WAIVER, THAT MAY BE AUTHORIZED BY THE PLAT APPROVAL AUTHORITY. AND SINCE THIS IS A WAIVER ASSOCIATED WITH A PLAT THAT, WE WILL RIVER AUTHORITY APPROVAL AUTHORITY GOES TO COUNCIL. SO THAT WAIVER CAN BE APPROVED. IF THERE'S CREDIBLE EVIDENCE PROVIDED OF GROUNDWATER AVAILABILITY IN THE VICINITY AND FEEL LIKE THAT WILL CONTINUE TO BE THERE. AND IF THE PROPOSED SUBDIVISION DEVISES A TRACT INTO NO MORE THAN TEN PARTS. SO AS YOU SAW, THEY'RE PROPOSING THREE LOTS. SO BECAUSE OF THAT, A WAIVER MAY BE CONSIDERED, THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED A WAIVER, SUBMITTED A LETTER WITH SOME SUPPORTING EVIDENCE FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. AND LIKE I SAID, SINCE THE WAIVER IS REQUESTED, THIS PLAT CANNOT BE ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVED, IT FIRST WENT TO PNC FOR A RECOMMENDATION AND NOW IT'S COMING TO YOU FOR, CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL. SO PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION HEARD THIS IN JULY 16TH, AND THEY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL WITH THE CONDITION THAT ALL OF THE OUTSTANDING COMMENTS BE ADDRESSED EXCEPT FOR A WAIVER TO THAT, COMMENT ON THE GROUNDWATER AVAILABILITY, THEY ALSO PROVIDE AN ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATION THAT THE APPLICANT CONSIDER NEGOTIATING WITH THE TOWN TO PROVIDE WATER SERVICE OR WATER SERVICE AND VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION, THERE IS WATER KIND OF RIGHT AROUND THE PERIMETER ON THREE SIDES OF THIS OR WILL BE ON THREE SIDES OF THIS VERY SOON. SO, TONIGHT, COUNCIL'S OPTIONS, THERE'S REALLY THREE OPTIONS YOU CAN APPROVE, IF YOU CHOOSE TO APPROVE, YOU SHOULD APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS THAT THESE OUTSTANDING COMMENTS BE ADDRESSED, YOU CAN CHOOSE TO APPROVE WITH THE, CONDITION THAT THE OUTSTANDING COMMENTS BE ADDRESSED AND PROVIDE THE WAIVER ON THE GROUNDWATER AVAILABILITY CERTIFICATION. OR YOU CAN CHOOSE TO DISAPPROVE BASED ON THE OUTSTANDING COMMENTS NOT BEING ADDRESSED AT THIS TIME, THE APPLICANT WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO COME BACK AND, AND ADDRESS THOSE COMMENTS AND GET APPROVAL.
ONCE ALL THOSE COMMENTS ARE ADDRESSED, WITH ALL THE SHORTAGES OF WATER AND AQUIFERS THAT WE'VE SEEN IN WESTERN COMMUNITIES TO HERE ESPECIALLY, I'M A LITTLE NERVOUS TO APPROVE DEVELOPMENT BASED ON THE FACT THAT, OH, THERE SHOULD BE WATER THERE, SO IT'S ONE OF THESE OPTIONS WE CAN DO CONDITIONAL, BUT THEY NEED TO PROVIDE CERTIFICATION OF THAT FIRST ONE,
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THE FIRST OPTION. OKAY. IS THAT BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S CRITICALLY IMPORTANT. AND ARE THEY LOOKING SPECIFICALLY AT THE TRINITY AQUIFER, THE DEEP, DEEPER COMMERCIAL? I DON'T KNOW, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO THEM. SURE THEY HAVE A COUPLE OF REPRESENTATIVES FOR THE PROJECT, INCLUDING THEIR, GROUNDWATER EXPERT, AND THEY HAVE A FEW SLIDES TO GO OVER. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD. PLEASE ROSS MAC, ANGUS COLLIER CONSULTING, REPRESENTING TEXAS BUSINESS PARKS. THANK YOU SIR, ALSO HAVE A PRINT OUT OF THE MAPS. JUST A LITTLE BIT HIGHER RESOLUTION. THANK YOU. SIR. ALL RIGHT, I HOPE TO EXPLAIN KIND OF HOW WE HAVE GOTTEN HERE AND NOT THROW TOO MUCH, INDUSTRY JARGON AT YOU, WE HAVE A KIND OF AN ACRONYM SYSTEM THAT WE WANT TO GO GO THROUGH, BUT THE FIRST ACRONYM TO, MENTION IS, PUBLIC WATER SUPPLY, CARTER CONSULTING IS UNDER CONTRACT TO PROVIDE PROVIDE A PUBLIC WATER SUPPLY WITH, TEXAS BUSINESS PARKS. THIS IS ENTAILS ENGINEERING A WELL, A DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM AND DISINFECTION SYSTEM. THIS IS SOMETHING WE DO ACROSS NORTH TEXAS, WE HAVE SEVERAL SYSTEMS TO THE WEST OF JUSTIN, THAT WE HAVE, MORE SPECIFIC DATA ON THAT WE COULD PROVIDE, WITH THAT BEING SAID, THERE WAS A STANDING WELL ON SITE ORIGINALLY. WE HAD PLANNED TO UTILIZE AND CONVERT THAT. WELL, TO A PUBLIC WATER SUPPLY. WELL UNFORTUNATELY, IT IS NOT STABLE, FOR OTHER REASONS THAN GROUNDWATER, PERSONALLY, I VIDEOED THE. WELL, THERE IS 158FT OR SO OF WATER WITHIN THAT. WELL, SINCE THEN WE HAVE CONDUCTED A PUMPING TEST ON THAT. WELL, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE SUSTAINABLE. IT PUMPS SAND, ESSENTIALLY. IT'S NOT NOT A GOOD. WELL, SO THE PLAN IS TO ESTABLISH AND BUILD A NEW. WELL, THROUGHOUT THIS THE COURSE OF THIS PROJECT, NORTH CITY OF NORTH LAKE, REQUIRE OR ASK FOR A GAK A GROUNDWATER, AVAILABILITY CERTIFICATE, ON THE PUBLIC MARKET, THIS COST BETWEEN 40 TO 50 K, NOT JUST FOR COLLIER. THIS IS WHAT IT GOES FOR, IN THE ARE, THIS IS MORE OR LESS A DETERMINING FACTOR ON WHERE THIS PROJECT WILL GO IF A GAC IS REQUIRED. THE PROJECT COULD DISSOLVE ESSENTIALLY, AND SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE COME TO THIS MEETING TO REQUEST A WAIVER, WE HAVE SOME, WE HAVE SENATE BILL, SENATE BILL 2440 TO STAND ON. OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S LESS THAN, TEN DIVISIONS IN THE SUBDIVISION, AND WE NEED TO SHOW CREDIBLE EVIDENCE THAT THERE IS WATER IN THE AREA. SO SOME THINGS YOU'LL SEE WITH ON THE MAP, THEY'RE PROVIDED, GPM THAT THAT'S AN INDUSTRY UNIT, GALLONS PER MINUTE. THAT IS USUALLY A GOOD INDICATION OF THE PRODUCTION OF THE. WELL, AND ITS VALUE IN A SENSE. NOW PRE-ENGINEERING, WE WILL NOT GUARANTEE A PRODUCTION VALUE. WE WILL BASE OUR ENGINEERING OFF OF WHAT'S IN THE AREA. SO THESE THESE THERE'S ACTUALLY A LOT MORE WELLS WITHIN THE AREA. THESE ARE JUST SOME I SELECTED THAT ARE WITHIN SIMILAR NATURE. AND SIMILAR DEPTHS FROM WHAT WE PLAN TO ENGINEER, THERE ARE UNDER UNDER YOUR FEET. THERE ARE TWO AQUIFERS THAT ARE TYPICALLY USED TO PRODUCE GROUNDWATER FOR DRINKING WATER SUPPLY, THE PALUXY AND THE TRINITY AQUIFER. THE PALUXY IS WHAT THESE MAINLY ARE. THEY'RE THEY'RE, NOT GOING TO PRODUCE AS MUCH WATER. THEY'RE NOT AS DEEP. USUALLY WATER QUALITY IS BETTER, A LITTLE BIT DEEP. DEEPER AS YOUR TRINITY AQUIFER, TYPICALLY PRODUCES MORE WATER. AND COULD HAVE SOME WATER QUALITY ISSUES AS FAR AS TDS, WHICH IS KIND OF SALTY WATER, THAT BEING SAID, THAT'S KIND OF WHY WE HAVE COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT, THIS, THIS WAIVER IS OR THIS, CERTIFICATION IS NOT NECESSARY FOR THIS SIZE OF DEVELOPMENT.THIS IS SOMETHING WE DO WITHIN OUR FIRM, IT'S USUALLY FOR MUCH LARGER, DEVELOPMENTS, 200 TO THOUSANDS OF CONNECTIONS, THAT THAT ARE REQUIRED FOR IT, THE OTHER THING YOU MIGHT NOTICE IS THE YELLOW CIRCLE ON THE MAP, THAT'S, YOU HAVE A OUR PROJECTED. WELL, AND THE CLOSEST
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DOCUMENTED WELL WITH IT IS, TWO, 2000FT OR FURTHER, THAT THAT, THE REASON FOR THAT IS, YOUR GROUNDWATER AUTHORITY, NORTH TEXAS GC'D, BASES ITS PRODUCTION RULES OFF OF, DISTANCE FROM STANDING WELLS. SO GIVEN THAT DISTANCE AND THE PLAN TO PLACE OUR. WELL, WHERE WE PLAN ON THE PROPERTY, THE WELL COULD BE CERTIFIED TO PUMP MORE THAN 600 GPM. NOW, THE AQUIFER THAT THAT'S NOT A REALITY, BUT THAT'S THE, I GUESS THE LIMITATION OF ACTUALLY DISTURBING OTHER WELLS IN THE AREA. IT'S HIGHLY UNLIKELY THAT THIS, WELL WILL AFFECT OTHER WELLS WITHIN THE AREA. AND IT'S NORTH TEXAS GCDS, AUTHORITY TO DETERMINE THAT, BEYOND THAT, BASICALLY WORKING THROUGH A GCD, YOU, APPLY FOR THE. WELL TO DRILL THE HOLE AND THEN YOU APPLY FOR A PERMIT TO ACTUALLY PUMP THE WATER, THE PUMPING OF THE WATER IS DETERMINED BY THE NUMBER OF CONNECTIONS AND ACTUALLY NEED, SO NORTH TEXAS GCD WILL THEN PERMIT HOW MUCH WATER COULD COME FROM THIS? WELL, THE OTHER CAVEAT TO THIS UNDER, INDUSTRY, GROUP THAT WE DEAL WITH IS TCU, AS YOU CAN SEE, LISTED AT 0.6 RULE THAT AS A GENERAL RULE OF THUMB, IS THE NUMBER OF CONNECTIONS TCU REQUIRES TIMES THE POINT SIX. SORRY, RELATES TO THE AMOUNT OF WATER PRODUCTION A WELL NEEDS. SO 0.6 TIMES WHATEVER YOUR WELL IS DOING IS ALLOWS FOR THE NUMBER OF CONNECTIONS. ESSENTIALLY WE COULD GENERALLY CALL YOUR WANTS TO PROVIDE ONE, ONE GPM TO ONE CONNECTION, AGAIN, THIS WELL WILL, EASILY MEET THOSE STANDARDS, BEYOND THAT, ONCE THE WELL IS CONSTRUCTED, WE, WE PLAN OR TCU REQUIRES A 36 HOUR PUMPING TEST. BASICALLY, WHAT THAT DOES IS AS THE WELL IS RUNNING THE AQUIFER DEPTH DRAW DOWN, THE AMOUNT OF WATER WITHIN THE AQUIFER IS ANALYZED AND THEN ALSO PRESENTED TO THE STATE, IF THAT IS NOT WITHIN ACCEPTABLE BOUNDARIES, THE WELL WILL NOT BE ACCEPTED. SO THERE'S LARGER GOVERNING AUTHORITIES THAT THAT, ENSURE THAT, THESE WELLS PROTECT THE PUBLIC, SO THAT I KNOW THAT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION.GENERALLY WHAT YOUR, YOUR, GQDS GO OFF OF IS STATIC WATER LEVEL WITHIN THEIR, THEIR, COUNTIES, THEY MONITOR THOSE VALUES. THEY LOOK AND SEE, WE ARE NOT SEEING ISSUES WITHIN THE PALUXY OR THE TRINITY, WITHIN THIS AREA, IT DIDN'T COUNTY OR WISE COUNTY, SO. YEAH ONE OF THE CONCERNS I HAVE IS THAT A LOT OF THE, WELL, DATA THAT YOU HAVE HERE, 15 GALLONS PER MINUTE, 16 GALLONS PER OUNCE, I KNOW FOR A FACT THOSE ARE SLOWING AND SLOWING RAPIDLY. RIGHT. SO THAT'S A, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT KEEP US IN BUSINESS. RIGHT. YOU'RE NOT NECESSARILY THE AQUIFER IS THE REASON TO BLAME A WELLS NEED TO BE SERVICED THERE. THERE'S A LITANY OF THINGS THAT, REQUIRE TO THAT COULD BE THE PROBLEM FOR A, WELL, NOT PRODUCING WHAT IT USED TO. YES, WE HAVE LOTS OF CLIENTS THAT COME TO US BEFORE THAT, AQUIFER LEVELS ARE RARELY THE CASE FOR THAT. WELL, DON'T FORGET, IT RAINED A LOT THIS SPRING, BUT WE DON'T SEE THAT WATER IN THESE AQUIFERS FOR 150 YEARS FROM WHEN IT ENTERS THE AQUIFER. RIGHT. SO MEASURING AND INFLECTIONS OF, AQUIFER LEVELS FROM YEAR TO YEAR, IT'S MORE OF A CENTURY BASIS. RAINING THIS SPRING DOESN'T ACCOUNT FOR THOSE RAINS. SO MY POINT IS, THOUGH, YOU SAID ABOUT BASING A GALLON PER MINUTE PER CONNECTION, IF ANY OF THESE TENANTS IN THE FUTURE OR OWNERS, TENANTS, HOWEVER, THEY DECIDE TO SELL THESE OFF OR KEEP THEM, DECIDE TO DO ANY TYPE OF IRRIGATION ON LOTS OF THESE SIZES, THEY'RE GOING TO BE TALKING 20 GALLONS A MINUTE PER SITE. NO, THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE ENGINEER FOR, IS THAT REALLY YOU HAVE A GROUND STORAGE TANK SYSTEM ALSO THAT COLLECTS THAT WATER. IT'S NOT DIRECT FEED TO THE IRRIGATION SITES. THE TCU IS WELL WITHIN ITS BOUNDS. IF YOU'RE ABOVE THE 0.6 RULE, THERE'S ENOUGH WATER WITHIN THAT SYSTEM. WE HAVE A LOT OF SYSTEMS THAT WE SERVICE THAT ARE WELL BELOW THAT. THAT WE'RE QUICKLY ATTEMPTING TO GET THEM MORE WELLS. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU FOR THAT. ANY QUESTIONS FOR HIM DIRECTLY? OKAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THERE.
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YEP NATHAN, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE FOR US ON THIS, WE'D LIKE TO TAKE YOU INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION BRIEFLY TO CONSULT WITH THE ATTORNEY. OKAY AND IF YOU COULD, LIST THE SECTION 551.071 OR JUST SAY THAT'S THE ONE. OKAY WE'RE GOING TO RETIRE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION BRIEFLY UNDER 551071 FOR CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY. THANK YOU SWIGER. WE'RE BACK FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO.ON THIS ITEM, A MOTION. IT IS SETTING THE RECORD SESSION. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO.
IF SOMEONE JUST DOESN'T BELIEVE ME. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. NUMBER ONE,
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WITH BUDGET APPROVED PRELIMINARY CLASSIFICATION OF OUTSTANDING COMMENTS FROM JULY 3RD. THERE ARE ADDRESSED WITH THE IDEA THAT WE'RE CONTINUING OUR CONVERSATION WITH THEM TO COME INTO THE TOWN, WHICH IS WHAT WE'D LIKE. I WILL SECOND THAT. ALL RIGHT. I HAVE A MOTION FROM MISS HOLMES AND A SECOND FROM MR. KELLY. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? AND TO BE CLEAR, THIS DOES NOT WAIVE THE, THE STUDY CORRECT. AND JUST AN ADDITIONAL COMMENT BEFORE THE VOTE IS PUNCHED IN HERE. I WOULD REALLY, REALLY ENCOURAGE, DEVELOPER TO CONTINUE WORKING WITH THE TOWN. I THINK THERE'S SOME CONCESSIONS COULD BE MADE AND A VERY AMICABLE SOLUTION TO MAKE THIS ALL WORK. AND EVERYONE'S BENEFIT. TAKE A VOTE. ALL RIGHT. MOTION PASSES, 4 TO[5.C. Consider an Ordinance of the Town of Northlake, Texas, amending Ordinance No. 18-1108, the concept plan as amended for the Pecan Square "MPD" Mixed-Use Planned Development, to revise the concept plan]
1. ALL RIGHT. ITEM. SEE? DREW, DO YOU WANT TO KICK THIS ONE OFF FOR ITEM C OR. I'M SORRY, NATHAN, I CAN. YOU GOT IT. OKAY, SO THIS IS A REQUEST TO, REVISE THE CONCEPT PLAN FOR THE PECAN SQUARE MIXED USE PLAN DEVELOPMENT. SO THERE'S A CONCEPT PLAN WITHIN THAT PLAN DEVELOPMENT ZONING, WHICH DIVIDES THE PROPERTY INTO DIFFERENT SUBDISTRICTS, NORTHLAKE BIBLE CHURCH IS A PROPERTY OWNER WITHIN, WITHIN PECAN SQUARE. THEY OWN ABOUT 11.5 ACRES HERE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF 407, JUST WEST OF THE INTERSECTION WITH FORT ROAD.THAT CHURCH PROPERTY LIES WITHIN THE ESTATE SUBDISTRICT. THE ESTATE SUBDISTRICT DOES NOT, LIST. CHURCH PLACE OF WORSHIP AS A PERMITTED USE CHURCH PLACE OF WORSHIP IS A PERMITTED USE IN THE COMMERCIAL SUBDISTRICT WITHIN THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, SO THE CHURCH HAS SUBMITTED A REQUEST TO REVISE THE CONCEPT PLAN. THAT'S APPLICABLE JUST TO THEIR PROPERTY, TO THE COMMERCIAL SUBDISTRICT. SO THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT PROVIDES FOR, CHANGES TO A CONCEPT PLAN ACTUALLY OUTLINES SOME THAT ARE MINOR AND DON'T REQUIRE, APPROVAL. THIS ONE WOULD NOT MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS. SO ANYTHING NOT, CONSIDERED MINOR HAS TO HAVE TOWN COUNCIL APPROVAL. AND THAT'S WHY THIS IS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, HOWEVER, IT'S NOT CONSIDERED A CHANGE IN ZONING. AND. NO, NO PUBLIC HEARING AND NOTICE IS REQUIRED. AS IS TYPICAL OF A ZONING CHANGE. SO THIS IS SHOWING WHAT THE WHAT THE CHANGE WOULD BE CHANGING ESSENTIALLY THAT AREA FROM YELLOW TO THE RED. AND THE, THE CHURCH HAS PROVIDED SOME SLIDES ON THEIR PLANS AND, THEY HAVE REPRESENTATIVES HERE THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO GO OVER THESE. IF YOU'D LIKE. OKAY. I'LL CALL THEM UP IN JUST A SECOND HERE, FOR COUNCIL'S EDIFICATION, BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF
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TURNOVER UP HERE, WHEN PECAN SQUARE WAS INITIALLY APPROVED, ALL THESE DISTRICTS WERE SET UP.IT WAS DISCUSSED WITH PUBLIC OVER MANY, MANY MEETINGS. AND ONE OF THE BIGGEST NEGOTIATING CHIPS, IN MY PERSONAL OPINION, THAT WAS BROUGHT FORWARD WAS TO EASE THE TRANSITION FROM HIGHER DENSITY TO LOWER DENSITIES TO THE HIGHLANDS TO THE NORTH, ETC. WAS TO PUT IN THESE LARGER ESTATE LOTS ALONG THE OUTLYING PORTIONS OF TOWN. THAT WAS ALL APPROVED. COLLEGE SQUARE GOT APPROVED AND SOMETIME THEREAFTER THEY SOLD THIS PIECE OF LAND TO THE CHURCH. I DON'T THINK THE CHURCH WAS AWARE AT THE TIME OR I DON'T KNOW THE HISTORY. THERE WITH THE PRIVATE DEALINGS OF HILLWOOD TO THE CHURCH, BUT IT WAS NEVER PERMITTED IN THIS STAGE. SO, YOU I DON'T WANT TO MAKE ANY ASSUMPTIONS HERE, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING WHERE WHEN IT WAS FIRST SOLD TO THE CHURCH, THERE WAS SOME KICKBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE IT FELT LIKE A LITTLE BIT OF A HEY, WE APPROVED ALL THESE ESTATE LOTS. NOW THERE'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING MORE COMMERCIAL HERE. I'M NOT CALLING CHURCH COMMERCIAL, BUT NOT LARGE ESTATE. LOTS. SO THIS IS IT'S KIND OF LIKE THEY SHOULD HAVE APPLIED FOR THIS BEFORE THEY SOLD IT. AND NOW THIS IS ASKING FOR A BAND AID ON THERE, REALLY AS FAR AS THE CHURCH HAD TO COME FORWARD FOR THIS, I THOUGHT HILLWOOD WOULD HAVE TO COME FORWARD WITH THIS REQUEST BECAUSE IT IS THEIR PLANNED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, WITH THA, REPRESENTATIVES FROM CHURCH, IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK THAT LAST MAP AGAIN. YOU CAN STILL COME UP. YES THANK YOU. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, I'M JOHN BARNDT. I'M WITH ARLO'S GROUP, SO I'M THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR FOR THE ENTIRE DESIGN BUILD PROCESS. OKAY. AND SO WE'VE STARTED THROUGHOUT THIS AS PASTOR DUSTY, DUSTY AND THE PASTOR OF NORTHLAKE BIBLE CHURCH. NICE TO MEET YOU GUYS FOR CONSIDERING THIS. YEAH, JUST A REAL QUICK HISTORY. WE BOUGHT THE LAND IN 2019 FROM, FROM HILLWOOD. WE'RE A CHURCH PLANT FROM A COUNTRYSIDE BIBLE CHURCH IN SOUTHLAKE. AND SO COUNTRYSIDE ACTUALLY BOUGHT THE LAND FOR US IN 2019. AND THEN DEEDED THAT TO US, IN 2022 WHEN WE BECAME AN INDEPENDENT BIBLE CHURCH, WHICH WAS THE PLAN ALL ALONG, WE WERE NOT AWARE THAT THERE WAS A PROBLEM WITH BEING ABLE TO BUILD THE CHURCH THERE WHEN WE BOUGHT THE LAND, WE HAVE ABOUT 500 FOLKS THAT ATTEND THE CHURCH. WE MEET IN, IN THE HARVEST HERE AT, AT LANCE THOMPSON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. AND WE CERTAINLY WANT TO WE WANT TO BE A BLESSING TO THE COMMUNITY. WE WANT TO WORK WITH YOU GUYS. SO ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO DO THAT, WE WANT TO. YEAH NOW, I'M SORRY YOU GUYS GOT CAUGHT UP IN THIS. SURE, BUT, YEAH, THERE'S PROCEDURE AND PROCESS TO BE HAD HERE, NOW, YOU SEE THAT MAP DOCTOR SESSIONS THAT YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC QUESTION ON THAT. WHERE DOES FALL IN THE. YEAH YOU KNOW, JUST FOR THE PREVIOUS THERE'S A PREVIOUS SITE PLAN, SIR. AND IF YOU LOOK AT WHERE IT SAYS FM 407 AND THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A, A LINE LIKE A WHERE FM TURNS, THERE'S THREE LITTLE GREEN, IT SAYS PHASE FOUR. AND THEN LOOK TO YOUR LEFT, MY LEFT, YOUR RIGHT. I BELIEVE. AND THAT'S JUST ACROSS THERE'S WHERE NORTH IS POINTING LEFT AND AT THE VERY TOP OF THE MAP IS THE DRIVEWAY. KIND OF WANT TO POINT UP THERE, BUT YEAH, BASICALLY IN THE TOP LEFT, IN THE TOP LEFT. YEAH, YEAH. THE DIVIDED HEY THERE WE GO. YES. RIGHT ACROSS. SO FONT IS RIGHT ACROSS FROM THAT ENTRANCE. BUT, AND THEY WON'T CONNECT TO THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE WILL BE A KNOX BOX FOR FIRE PROTECTION, BUT IT WON'T. THERE WON'T BE ANY THROUGH TRAFFIC. THAT'S WHAT I FEEL FRUSTRATED, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RIGHT PROCEDURAL THING TO DO IS ON HOW TO APPROACH IT, BECAUSE I LOVE HEARING ABOUT A CHURCH PLANT, A GOOD BIBLE CHURCH IN OUR TOWN, AND ALL THAT. AND THIS JUST ISN'T A QUALM WITH THEM. IT'S, AND THAT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROCESS IS FOR BEING ABLE TO GO BACK TO HILLWOOD OR SOMETHING TO. SO ONE PART OF THIS IS, I BELIEVE THAT YOU'VE TALKED TO STAFF A LITTLE BIT OR SOMEBODY FROM CHURCH HAS AND WE MAY WANT TO TABLE THIS TONIGHT. SURE YEAH, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING A DISCUSSION WITH HILLWOOD AND THE CHURCH AND LOOK AT THE PROCESS HERE. BUT YEAH, THINGS ARE DONE OUT OF ORDER, AND THERE'S BEEN HARM HERE TO A DEGREE. SO. AND THAT WE'VE MADE CONSIDERABLE LIKE, ALLOWANCES TO HILLWOOD TO MAKE STUFF WORK AND THAT THAT'S A BIG ONE. NOW, MR. GANTZ, YOU WERE ON COUNCIL WHEN ALL THIS WAS APPROVED. YEAH. IF YOU WANT TO COVER YOUR NEGOTIATING STRATEGY AND DOCTOR SESSIONS AS WELL, BECAUSE I IF I RECALL, THIS ESTATE TRACK WAS A HUGE PART OF YOUR CONSIDERATION. YEAH. MY I WAS A HOLDOUT ON
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PECAN SQUARE UNTIL WE GOT CERTAIN CONCESSIONS FROM HILLWOOD AND THE MAIN CONCESSION WAS INCREASING THE NUMBER OF HALF ACRE LOTS FROM, I THINK, 16 TO ABOUT 90, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, IT CAUSED US A LOT OF HEARTBURN GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS. THREE OF THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS LOST THEIR SEAT BECAUSE THEY SUPPORTED IT, AND I WAS ONE OF THE THREE. SO I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A HEARTBURN JUST WAVING A MAGIC WAND AND GOING AGAINST WHAT WE INITIALLY AGREED TO, BECAUSE I'LL BE HONEST, PECAN SQUARE CREATED A BIG DIVIDE IN NORTHLAKE WHEN IT WAS BEING PROPOSED. SO AFTER NEGOTIATING WITH HILLWOOD FOR MONTHS, I'D BE REMISS IN JUST SAYING. YEAH, GO AHEAD. BECAUSE OF WHAT WE HAD TO GO THROUGH TO GET WHAT WE HAVE NOW. SO IF YOU WANT TO TABLE IT, I'M ALL FOR THAT. WE CAN DISCUSS IT FURTHER. BUT, THAT'S MY POSITION RIGHT NOW. LIKE I SAID, WE HAD A LOT OF ANGST AND HEARTACHE TO GET WHERE WE GOT. AND NOW, NO, NO FAULT OF YOUR OWN. I MEAN, IT'S SURE THE WAY THINGS WORKED OUT, BUT, RIGHT NOW I'D BE OPPOSED. SO IT MIGHT BE BEST TO TABLE IT. AND MAY I SAY SOMETHING, SIR? YES, SIR. SO WHEN WE. ARLO'S GROUP GOT INVOLVED, I NOTICED THAT THERE WAS THINGS NOT RIGHT. AND SO I CAME TO NATHAN AND SAID, HEY, THIS ISN'T MAKING ANY SENSE TO ME. AND SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE, IS TO MAKE THE PAPERWORK, RIGHT. CHURCH BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY FOUR YEARS AGO. THEY CLOSED ON IT IN JANUARY OF 19.AND SO, IT'S JUST BEEN A PROCESS. AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO DO THINGS THE RIGHT WAY. I WOULD ALSO ADD THAT THIS SITE IS HEAVILY IN FLOOD. SO EVEN PUTTING BIG LOTS ON HERE WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN A DOABLE THING TO BEGIN WITH. YEAH, SOME OF IT WAS DETERMINED TO BE OPEN SPACE AS WELL, SO FAIR ENOUGH. YEAH. SO WE'RE TRYING WE'RE HERE TO TRY TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND HELP THE CHURCH OUT. WHAT? OBVIOUSLY HILLWOOD DOES A LOT IN NORTHLAKE, AND THEY'VE BEEN A BIG PART OF DEVELOPMENT. EVEN THOUGH THE SALE IS ALREADY COMPLETE AND ALL THAT TYPE OF STUFF, IT CAN'T BE THAT DIFFICULT FOR US TO PULL THE INFORMATION AND HAVE SOMEBODY FROM HILLWOOD EXPLAIN HOW THIS HAPPENED. I DID HAVE A BRIEF CONVERSATION WITH SOME REPRESENTATIVES FROM HILLWOOD BEFORE THE MEETING TODAY, AND EVERYBODY'S KIND OF TAKEN ABACK.
THEY FEEL LIKE THEY KIND OF FORGOT ABOUT IT. I DON'T WANT TO PUT WORDS IN THEIR MOUTH, BUT, THAT'S WHY I THINK THAT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THIS FURTHER OFFLINE AND GIVE A CHANCE TO, YOU KNOW, WORK THROUGH THIS. SO I'M NOT WILLING TO RUBBER STAMP SOMETHING THAT WAS AGREED TO AND DEBATED ON FOR YOU SAID SIX MONTHS AND THAT WE STILL END UP TALKING LIKE IT WAS ALMOST A YEAR. SOME OF THESE CONCESSIONS. SO I ALSO WANTED TO ASK YOU, DOCTOR SESSIONS, AS YOU WERE ON THAT COUNCIL AS WELL, IF YOU HAD ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON THIS, MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT FAULT WAS GOING TO GO ALL THE WAY THROUGH AT THAT POINT, THAT WAS PART OF YOUR NEGOTIATIONS AS WELL, REGARDLESS OF THE CHURCH OR NOT, THAT THOUGHT WOULDN'T CONTINUE SOUTH OF 407, THAT IT WOULD BE A T INTERSECTION, THERE WAS CONCERN ABOUT TRAFFIC FROM PECAN SQUARE, AND A LIGHT COMING THROUGH THE RURAL AREA OF THE TOWN, BUT THAT WAS IT WAS ORIGINALLY BUT THAT WAS PART OF Y'ALL'S NEGOTIATIONS TO HAVE IT NOT CUT THROUGH. AND WORKING WITH THE CHURCH, WE EXPRESSED THAT THAT AND THEY THEY MET THAT REQUIREMENT NOT TO HAVE THOUGHT CUT THROUGH. IS THAT WHAT YOUR QUESTION WAS, SIR? WELL, MY QUESTION WAS SORT OF THE OPPOSITE, BUT ANYWAY, WE WERE TOLD THERE WOULD BE LARGE LOTS ON THAT END. SO WHAT HILLWOOD DID AND THEY TOLD US THEY'D DO ONE THING AND THEN SOLD THE LAND OFF TO SOMEBODY ELSE. WELL, AND THEY MET THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. THEY HAVE BUILT 90 OR GOING TO BUILD 90 HALF ACRE LOTS. NOT NOT AT THIS CORNER, BUT ALL ALONG THE NORTH AND ALONG THE WEST, BORDERING, THE HIGHLANDS. THEY HAD MET THEIR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT REQUIREMENT, NOT IN THE CONCEPT PLAN THAT YOU ENVISIONED, BUT THEY DO THEY DO MEET THE 90 OR WHATEVER THAT NUMBER IS THAT MAX? YEAH. SO THEY CONVINCE ME TO VOTE A CERTAIN WAY, AND THEN THEY DO WHAT THEY PLEASE. THAT'S THAT'S WHY. THAT'S WHY I'D RATHER TABLE IT SO WE DON'T HAVE TO SAY NO OUTRIGHT RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THAT'S WHAT IT WOULD END UP BEING. AND I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT UNTIL WE GET TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT
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IT. AND I WILL SAY THAT I HAVE FAITH THAT IF A CHURCH IS SUPPOSED TO BE PLANTED THERE, THAT IT'LL WORK OUT. SO WE'LL SEE. YEAH SO YEAH, THIS IS NOT FOLLOWING YOUR IT FALLS ON YOU TODAY BUT IT DOESN'T DOESN'T FALL ON YOU INITIALLY. THERE'S A LOT OF RESIDENTS THAT FELT LIKE THERE'S A LITTLE BAIT AND SWITCH. I HATE TO USE THE WORD BAIT AND SWITCH, BUT A LOT OF RESIDENTS THAT FELT THAT WAY, WHAT IT IS THOUGH. YEAH. SO AND PERSONALLY, I WAS UPSET WHEN IT GOT SOLD AS WELL BECAUSE IT'S LIKE, HEY, THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE THIS. AND NOW THEY SOLD IT OFF.SO I DON'T BELIEVE THEY HAD THE RIGHT TO SELL IT IN THAT DEVELOPMENT WITHOUT TRYING TO MAKE THE ADJUSTMENT FIRST. SO LET'S TABLE THIS, WE'LL HAVE SOME DISCUSSIONS, SOME, YOU KNO, TALK TALKS, TALKING AND DISCUSSIONS ON IT AND THEN SEE IF WE CAN GET SOME READY TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL. SOMETHING AGREEABLE, SEE WHAT HAPPENS THERE. SO THANK YOU GUYS, YOU GUYS STILL AGREE TO TABLE IT? IS THAT GOOD FOR YOU? THAT'S OKAY, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO ISSUE A DENIAL AND HAVE A SHOT CLOCK OR ANYTHING ELSE HAPPEN AND DELAY. IT REMINDS ME OF ANOTHER RECENT ISSUE THAT WE HAD WITH THE LAND JUST BEING DEVELOPED JUST NORTH OF CANYON FALLS, WHERE THEY HAD ALL THAT BACKFILL COME IN. YEP. AND IT'S THE SAME THING. THEY PUT STUFF OFF FOR A WHILE AND THINK THAT YOU'VE FORGOTTEN ABOUT IT. AND IT'S JUST THIS IS THE WAY DEVELOPERS DO THINGS. WE GOT TO HOLD THEIR FEET TO THE FIRE AT SOME POINT. VERY GOOD. I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS BEING HERE AND I'M SORRY THIS HAPPENED THIS WAY, BUT WE'LL TRY TO GET THROUGH IT, OKAY? THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MAYOR, FOR YOUR ACTION, WE NEED TO VOTE TO TABLE THAT TO A FUTURE MEETING.
THE NEXT MEETING IS THE EIGHTH. I DON'T KNOW THE SCHEDULING AND GETTING TOGETHER. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO GET IT DONE BY AUGUST 8TH AND GET IT ON THE AGENDA. WE HAVE ANOTHER MEETING IN AUGUST. AUGUST 22ND, BUT, DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE WE'RE GOING TO HIT. SO A MOTION TO TABLE TO A I WAS GOING TO IF YOU GUYS WANT TO ANSWER THIS OR HAVE A THOUGHT ON THIS, I WAS GOING TO SAY TABLE UNTIL SOME NEGOTIATIONS ARE HAD. CAN WE LEAVE OUT A LITTLE BIT OPEN ENDED. RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO NEGOTIATE THIS MORE THE, TO. NO, I DON'T THINK THERE'S NOT A SHOT CLOCK ON THIS. YEAH. IT'S JUST SO, TO JUST A DATE IN THE FUTURE. YEAH. DATE IN THE FUTURE AFTER NEGOTIATIONS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN, FOLKS, WE HAVE ANOTHER FUN ONE HERE, UNFORTUNATELY. ITEM D, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION TEN. SORRY. VOTE ON THE TABLE.
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OH, YES. MOTION TO TABLE. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE. I WILL SECOND. I USE OUR SCREENS FOR THIS ONE SINCE IT'S OFF BOOK. ALL RIGHT MOTION TO TABLE. GETS USERS NAMES. MAYOR COUNCIL. GOT IT. COUNSELOR SESSIONS VOTED. ALL RIGHT, MOTION PASSES, FIVE ZERO. WE'LL TALK TO YOU AGAIN SOON, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND MAKING SURE STAFF HAS YOUR CELL PHONE NUMBER. YEAH, I'D LIKE TO, MAYBE FILL OUT ONE OF THOSE CARDS, GIVE IT TO STAFF ON YOUR WAY OUT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.[5.D. Consider approval of a Resolution of the Town of Northlake, Texas, approving an amendment to the Pioneer Grant for S.A.S. Boutique and authorizing the Northlake Economic Development Corporation and Northlake Community Development Corporation to enter into an amended performance agreement; and providing an effective date]
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ITEM D, RESOLUTION NORTH LAKE APPROVING AN AMENDMENT TO PIONEER GRANT.WE UNFORTUNATELY HAVE A ANOTHER PIONEER GRANT, APPLICANT THAT IS CLOSING. YEAH. YES, IT LOOKS THAT WAY. YES. IT'S PLANNING TO CLOSE. NATHAN. TAKE IT AWAY. SO THIS IS, SAS BOUTIQUE, IT'S A WOMEN'S CLOTHING STORE HERE LOCATED IN NORTH LAKE COMMONS, THEY WERE APPROVED FOR A $20,000 PIONEER GRANT BACK IN MAY OF 22. THEY OPENED FOR BUSINESS IN JULY OF 22, AND, WITHIN 30 DAYS, THEY'RE THAT, PIONEER GRANT WAS PAID, THE BUSINESS IS STILL OPERATING, BUT, THE BUSINESS OWNERS INFORMED STAFF OF THE NEED TO CLOSE AND REQUESTED THIS ITEM TO DISCUSS REPAYMENT OPTIONS, ACCORDING TO THE AGREEMENT, IF THE BUSINESS CLOSES BEFORE NEXT JULY 13TH, $12,000 IS DUE WITHIN 30 DAYS OF NOTICE FROM THE TOWN THAT THE PROVISIONS OF THE AGREEMENT AREN'T BEING MET. SO IF IT'S BUSINESS IS CLOSED, THEN WE'LL PROVIDE NOTICE. AND WITHIN 30 DAYS, THAT $12,000 WOULD BE OWED. SO THIS REQUEST WENT THROUGH THE EDC AND CDC. FIRST.
THEY HEARD THIS ON AT THEIR JULY 18TH MEETINGS. THOSE BOARDS VOTED TO AMEND THE PERFORMANCE AGREEMENT BY AMENDING THE REPAYMENT TERMS, AND TO SET THE REPAYMENT AMOUNT AT, $20,000,
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MINUS A CREDIT OF ALL THE SALES TAXES THAT HAVE BEEN PAID TO THE TOWN FROM THE BUSINESS, WE'RE EXPECTING THERE'LL BE A COUPLE MORE MONTHS, TO DETERMINE WHAT THAT EXACT AMOUNT WILL BE, BUT WE ESTIMATE THAT THAT WILL BE ABOUT $12,000, WHICH WOULD LEAVE APPROXIMATELY $8,000 OWED. AND, FURTHER, THEY, SET A REPAYMENT SCHEDULE OF, MINIMUM EQUAL MONTHLY INSTALLMENTS OVER 24 MONTHS. AFTER THAT FINAL SALES TAX AMOUNT IS DETERMINED AND NOW, TO APPROVE THAT, IT TAKES, COUNCIL APPROVAL. SO YOU HAVE THE OPTIONS TO APPROVE THE TERMS AS DECIDED ON BY THE EDC AND CDC BOARDS OR DISAPPROVE AND PROVIDE GUIDANCE TO THE EDC AND CDC FOR THEIR POTENTIAL RECONSIDERATION.OKAY. APPROVE IT WITH, CAN WE APPROVE IT WITH CONDITIONS OR WE HAVE TO PICK ONE OF THE TWO, PICK ONE OF THE TWO, PICK ONE OF THE TWO. IF YOU WANT ANY CONDITIONS, YOU'LL HAVE TO DISAPPROVE IT AND PROVIDE THAT GUIDANCE FOR EDC AND CDC TO RECONSIDER, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, THIS IS PROBABLY THE SECOND OR THIRD TIME WE'RE BEING ASKED TO AMEND AN AGREEMENT FOR A PIONEER GRANT, THE FIRST TIME THIS CAME UP, I WARNED ABOUT SETTING A PRECEDENT FOR THIS.
COUNCIL DECIDED TO GRANT RELIEF. ANYWAY, SO HERE WE ARE AGAIN, ASKING FOR RELIEF FROM AN AGREEMENT, I THINK WE SHOULD HOLD TO IT. I THINK WE'RE JUST GOING TO OPEN UP A FLOODGATE OF IF NEXT TIME A BUSINESS GOES UNDER, THEY'RE GOING TO WANT RELIEF AS WELL. I PERSONALLY THINK WE SHOULD STICK TO THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT, THE $12,000. I'M OKAY WITH A PAYMENT PLAN EXTENDING THAT BEYOND 30 DAYS. BUT I THINK WE SHOULD STICK TO, THE AGREEMENT. I MEAN, OTHERWISE WE'LL BE HERE EVERY TIME GRANTING RELIEF. THAT HORSE IS OUT OF THE BARN ALREADY. I AGREE, I LIKE TO GET IT BACK IN A LITTLE BIT. I DON'T KNOW WHY WE CONTINUE TO GIVE PIONEER GRANTS BECAUSE WE'RE NOW A DESTINATION WHERE PEOPLE WANT SHOULD WANT TO HAVE A BUSINESS.
YEAH. I MEAN, I QUESTION THE NEED FOR PIONEER GRANTS AT ALL AT THIS POINT. I MEAN, WE'RE NO LONGER A TOWN OF 1500. WE'RE SUBSTANTIALLY HIGHER. OH, AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE ABILITY AS THEY COME UP, ADVERTISE. IT'S A MARKETING TOOL, RIGHT. SO WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO BRING THOSE AND TAKE THOSE AS NEEDED. IS THERE ANY REPRESENTATIVES FROM BUSINESS HERE TODAY, NO. SHE HAD A PRIOR APPOINTMENT AND WASN'T ABLE TO MAKE IT. OKAY. SO I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THE AGREEMENT SAYS THEY OWE $12,000 IF THEY CLOSE BEFORE NEXT JULY. RIGHT. AND THE PROPOSAL IS, HEY, THEY'VE PAID US APPROXIMATELY $12,000 IN SALES TAX. WE GAVE THEM $20,000 INITIALLY. CORRECT.
SO THEY OWE YOU KNOW, THEY PAID BACK SOME OF THIS ALREADY AND GIVE US YOU KNOW, WE'LL PAY YOU $8,000, ON A PAYMENT SCHEDULE. YES, YES, ON A PAYMENT SCHEDULE FOR MONTHS. SO PAYMENT SCHEDULES, I THINK. ALL FINE AND GOOD, NO MATTER WHICH WAY THIS GOES. I THINK THAT'S REASONABLE.
SO I THINK THE SOUNDS LIKE THE EDC AND CDC WAS LOOKING TO. HEY, YOU YOU PRODUCED INCOME TO THE TOWN. AND, YOU KNOW, UNLIKE THE LAST ONE THAT DID NOT PRODUCE NEAR THE INCOME TO THE TOWN. SO I SEE IT AS REASONABLE. BUT I ALSO SEE YOUR POINT, MR. GANS, , I ECHO THAT POINT THAT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THESE THESE ARE CONTRACTS, PRIVATE CONTRACTS WITH THE TOWN SO WE CAN HAVE A HEART, BUT WE ALSO HAVE A BUSINESS. YEAH. THAT'S WHAT I STRUGGLED WITH BECAUSE, THE NATURE OF HAVING BUSINESSES IN A SMALL TOWN IS THAT WE GET TO KNOW THE PEOPLE. OBVIOUSLY, THAT'S WHAT WE, ENCOUNTER. THAT'S WHAT THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL ENCOUNTERED BEFORE. BUT I DO AGREE, YOU KNOW, I'M I WANT TO AGREE THAT IT'S A RISK THAT THEY WILLINGLY TOOK. I LOVE THE STORE. I'M SAD TO HEAR THAT IT'S CLOSING, BUT IT IS A RISK THAT THEY ENTERED INTO KNOWINGLY. I DO THINK THAT A PAYMENT PLAN IS REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION ENOUGH WITHOUT MAKING ADDITIONAL, ACCOMMODATION OUTSIDE OF WHAT THEY OWE, AND THAT I WOULD. I PROBABLY HAVE A MOTION. WHAT WAS THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT 12,000. SO CURRENTLY THEY OWE 12,000 PER THE AGREEMENT. SO THE ORIGINAL
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AGREEMENT FOR EVERY YEAR THEY STAYED IN BUSINESS OVER FIVE YEARS. THEY GOT A FIFTH OF IT FORGIVEN. GOTCHA SO THEY THE BUSINESS HAS BEEN OPEN FOR TWO YEARS NOW. SO THEY GOT 8000 FORGIVEN. WELL I MEAN THE WAY I FEEL AND IT IS IT'S DIFFICULT, SMALL BUSINESS ISN'T WHAT IT USED TO BE, AND WE ALL KNOW THAT. BUT, IT'S JUST IT'S JUST HARD IN TODAY'S ENVIRONMENT. BUT SALES TAXES DO WHETHER YOU'RE IN A, IN A ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PIONEER GRANT LIKE THIS OR NOT.AND OVER TIME, THE MORE WHETHER IT'S US OR ANY TOWN, THE MORE WE DO THIS, THE MORE MONEY WE TAXPAYER DOLLARS WE JUST ARE THROWING AWAY. SO, YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK THE I AGREE OVERALL THAT BUT I THINK THAT MR. GANTZ YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. WE'VE GOT TO REIN IT BACK IN.
OTHERWISE IT'S JUST GOING TO KEEP HAPPENING BECAUSE WE HAVE PIONEER GRANTS THAT ARE OUTSTANDING. RIGHT NOW. AND IF WE MAKE IT TO WHERE EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT IF YOU DON'T MEET YOUR PERFORMANCE AGREEMENT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET A PASS ANYWAY. WELL, IF YOU WERE TO ADD UP THE PIONEER GRANTS THAT ARE OUT RIGHT NOW, THAT'S ANOTHER POLICE OFFICER FOR THE TOWN. SO WHAT WHAT DID THEY ASK EDC FOR? JUST THE REPAYMENT PLAN OR WHAT DID THEY ACTUALLY COME AND ASK FOR, SHE, SHE JUST, ASKED FOR THEM TO CONSIDER WHAT HAD BEEN GENERATED IN SALES TAX AND FOR AN EXTENSION FOR. YEAH, PAYMENT PLAN. SO SHE DIDN'T PROVIDE ANY SPECIFICS BECAUSE I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION BECAUSE I WHEN BUSINESSES GO OUT OF BUSINESS, IF THEY HAVE A LEASE AGREEMENT AND ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ADD UP THAT THEY ARE REQUIRED TO PAY WITH NO REVENUE NOW AT THIS POINT, FROM THAT BUSINESS MAKES IT QUITE HARD. AND THEY'RE ON USUALLY ON THE HOOK FOR IT PERSONALLY, AND THEY USUALLY WIND UP JUST FILING BANKRUPTCY. IS THIS SOMETHING THAT IF IS IT EXEMPT FROM BANKRUPTCY OR DOES IT GET FOLDED INTO IT AND WE JUST LOSE OUT ON IT BECAUSE THE ONLY PEOPLE GET PAID IN BANKRUPTCY ARE THE FEDS AND LAWYERS. SO WE JUST WOULD HAVE TO GET IN LINE WITH ALL THE OTHER SOLDIERS. THAT'S MORE THAN LIKELY WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
IT'S MY WELL, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS IS HER CLOSING HER STOREFRONT, NOT CLOSING HER BUSINESS ALTOGETHER. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S AS MUCH OF A WELL, SHE DOES HAVE ANOTHER BUSINESS IN ANOTHER TOW. IT'S JUST THAT THIS ONE DIDN'T QUITE WORK OUT. SO IS SARS IN TWO PLACES OR IS THAT RIVER BLUE RIVER BLUES IN TWO PLACES? NO, I SEE YES. YEAH. SAS HAS TWO AS WELL. OKAY SANTA ANA SANTA ANA STORE IS WHAT THE SAS STANDS FOR. OKAY. THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DENY THE AMENDMENT. I'LL SECOND IT, BUT WITH A COMMENT, BECAUSE I HATE THIS. BUT I AM SECONDING IT. THIS PERSON DID A LOT TO TRY AND SUCCEED, AND SHE HAD NO WAY TO ACCOUNT FOR THE WAY THAT THE ECONOMY WAS GOING. AND I HATE THAT THIS IS HAPPENING. AND I HAD TO SAY THAT SO WE'D ASK THAT YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER GANS, YOU GIVE THE EDC AND CDC DIRECTION SO THAT THEY BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO GO BACK AND RECRAFT SOMETHING, THAT YOU HAVE TO APPROVE OR WE GET IN THIS KIND OF BACK AND FORTH LOOP LIKE WE DID WITH T CETERA. SO I WOULD
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LIKE YOUR MOTION TO INCLUDE THE RECOMMENDATION. ALL RIGHT. MOTION TO DENY THE REQUEST FOR AN AMENDMENT, SEND IT BACK TO CDC, EDC, PAYMENT PLAN IS OKAY BY ME. 24 MONTH. THAT'D BE FINE.AND THE FULL AMOUNT? THE FULL AMOUNT OF 12,000 DUE? YES THANK. THANK YOU. YOUR SECOND STANCE.
OKAY. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT. WE WILL VOTE ON THAT MOTION. I THINK IT'S A VERY STRONG MOTION. THANK YOU. MOTION PASSES 5 TO 0. HAVE THE CDC AND EDC AMEND THEIR REQUEST TO OR ASK THEM TO. WE WILL GIVE THEM YOUR DIRECTION. DIRECTION? YES THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. AND WITH THAT THAT COVERS ALL OF OUR ACTION ITEMS THIS EVENING WITH THE AMENDED THOUGH, DO WE HAVE POTENTIAL ACTION COMING OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION? YES AND WHAT I'D LIKE, IF COUNCIL IS WILLING TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, WE HAVE ONE OF THE PARTNERS IN THE DEVELOPMENT HERE. AND IF WE DO HAVE ANY ANY ACTION, COME BACK OUT. TAKE THAT ACTION SO THEY'RE AWARE AND THEN WE CAN GO BACK IN
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ONE LAST TIME TO FINISH EVERYTHING UP. IS THE ATTORNEY CONSULTATIONS 071. YES, SIR.[6. EXECUTIVE SESSION]
OKAY THEN WE WILL RETIRE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION BRIEFLY TO DISCUSS. WHICH ITEM NUMBER IS IT ON THE REVISED. ITS. A7A OR. OKAY YEAH. YEAH. SEVEN A AND, THAT WILL BE UNDER 551071. SORRY TO KEEP COMING IN AND OUT, BUT ALL RIGHT. IT IS 8:07 P.M. WE[7. RECONVENE INTO OPEN SESSION]
HAVE RECONVENED FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION WITH ACTION ON ITEM SEVEN. A I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION AND CONSIDER A RESOLUTION TO ALLOW TOWN MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE AND EXECUTE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR MUNICIPAL SERVICES. OFFER SAYING ANY FEE WAIVERS OR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVES, THIS IS FOR THE PROPERTY OFF OF FLORENCE ROAD NEAR NORTH RIDGE ESTATES, WHERE WE HAVE PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED A FIVE BUILDING PARK. INITIALLY FIVE FIVE LOTS, FIVE BUILDINGS. THIS BASICALLY, THERE'S ANOTHER ONE MORE LOT THAT'S BEING LOOKED TO BE ADDED INTO THIS, AND WE'RE GIVING A TOWN MANAGER GUIDANCE ON BASICALLY CONTINUING THE PREVIOUS AGREEMENT WITH SOME GUARDRAILS. AND HE'LL BRING THAT BACK WHEN IT IS READY TO BE, NEGOTIATED. FINAL FINALIZE NEGOTIATIONS. DO YOU WANT ME TO BRING IT BACK OR IF IT'S WITHIN THE GUARDRAILS, YOU MIGHT ACT ON IT. IF IT'S IN THE GUARDRAILS, I THINK WE CAN ACT ON IT, BECAUSE EITHER OUTCOME, I THINK WE'RE GOOD WITH. SO. OKAY, IF IT CHANGES DRAMATICALLY, I'LL BRING IT BACK. YEAH. LET ME KNOW AND WE'LL BRING IT BACK. YES, SIR. SO THAT IS MY MOTION. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND IT. THANK YOU, MR. KELLY. AND WITH THAT, WE SHALL TAKE A VOTE. ON THE LAND. THANK YOU. BACK TO YOU. THANK YOU. MOTION PASSES 5 TO 0. WITH THAT. THAT CONCLUDES OUR BUSINESS. THIS EVENING. IT IS 8:09 P.M, AND BY GENERAL CONSEN, I WILL CLOSE OUR MEETING.ADJOURN OUR MEETING. THANK YOU
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