Nov 14, 2024 Town Council

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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YOU. GOOD EVENING. IT IS NOVEMBER 14TH AT 5:30 P.M. WE'RE HERE FOR NORTH LAKE COUNCIL MEETING. WE HAVE ALL COUNCILORS IN ATTENDANCE AND PRESENT. TONIGHT WE'RE GOING TO START WITH INVOCATION. PASTOR. GOOD TO SEE YOU, SIR. YES. GOOD EVENING MAYOR COUNCIL. LET'S LET'S PRAY TOGETHER. FATHER, IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO BEGIN ANY SESSION HERE IN NORTH LAKE TO REMIND OUR HEARTS THAT WE SERVE A GREAT AND SOVEREIGN GOD IN ALL WAYS. LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS NIGHT. WE THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE PRESENTED TO SEVERAL NEW OFFICERS. AND FATHER, WE'RE REMINDED IN ROMANS 13 THAT THE THAT A COUNTRY DOESN'T BEAR THE SWORD FOR NO REASON, THAT LORD, THEY ARE THERE TO PROTECT AND DEFEND AND FATHER ALL THE WAY DOWN INTO A CITY WHERE WE HAVE OFFICERS THAT WOULD SERVE ON BEHALF OF THE CITIZENS, TO DEFEND US AND TO HELP US. SO, FATHER, WE THANK YOU THAT TONIGHT WE HONOR YOU WITH OUR LIVES, WITH THE AGENDA. FATHER, WE ASK THAT YOU HELP US. GOD, GIVE US GRACE. AND FATHER, WE WILL BE ALWAYS MINDFUL TO GIVE YOU GLORY IN ALL THAT WE DO AND SAY. AND WE ASK YOU FOR THE GREAT GLORY OF THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST, OUR SAVIOR. AMEN. AMEN. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, PLEDGE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE PUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR THE FLAG. DESIGN AND ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. THANK YOU. OUR FIRST ITEM TONIGHT IS

[2.A. Briefing - Recognition Of New Police Officers]

THREE TRAFFIC OFFICERS WILL BE IN PLACE ON DECEMBER FIRST. SO AND WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, COULD YOU GUYS GO AND COME UP? CODY LEINWEBER HE'S A SERGEANT. YOU GUYS MAY REMEMBER HIM. HE WAS HIS BADGE PINNING UP HERE. SERGEANT LEINWEBER SERVED AS A RESERVE OFFICER, POLICE OFFICER, CORPORAL AND CORPORAL PRIOR TO COMING TO NORTH LAKE AS A SERGEANT. HAS 16 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE. HOLDS AN ADVANCED PEACE OFFICER LICENSE AS A POLICE INSTRUCTOR IN TASERS, AND IS A FIELD TRAINING OFFICER. SERGEANT STEVE SHEPHERD. SERGEANT SHEPHERD SERVED AS A RESERVE OFFICER, POLICE OFFICER, AND POLICE SERGEANT PRIOR TO JOINING NORTH LAKE AS A SERGEANT. SERGEANT SHEPHERD HAS OVER 31 YEARS OF POLICE EXPERIENCE. HOLDS A MASTER PEACE OFFICER LICENSE. IS A POLICE INSTRUCTOR AND FIELD TRAINING OFFICER. MOTORCYCLE OFFICER, ADVANCED ACCIDENT INVESTIGATOR AND HELPED CREATE THE REGIONAL CRASH TEAM IN SOUTHERN DENTON COUNTY. ALRIGHT, COREY ROLLINS. COREY ROLLINS JOINED US IN JUNE OF 2024 AND BEGAN AS A POLICE CADET AT TARRANT COUNTY COLLEGE. AFTER HE PASSED THE STATE EXAM, HE WAS APPOINTED TO THE POSITION OF POLICE OFFICER. AND IF YOU WANT TO MEET THE MOST POSITIVE GUY IN THE WORLD, THIS IS HIM RIGHT HERE. ALWAYS SMILING. ALWAYS READY TO COME TO WORK. THANK YOU, COACH COREY. LET'S SEE HERE. JONATHAN WIMBERLEY. OFFICER WIMBERLEY ALSO JOINED US IN AUGUST OF 2024. SERVED AS A POLICE OFFICER FOR APPROXIMATELY NINE YEARS PRIOR TO COMING TO NORTH LAKE. OFFICER WIMBERLEY HOLDS A MASTER PEACE OFFICER LICENSE AND A BACHELOR'S DEGREE FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF NORTH TEXAS IN CRIMINAL JUSTICE, AND IS ALSO A FIELD TRAINING OFFICE. ROBERT MAZZOTTI. THIS IS AN INTERESTING ONE, RIGHT HERE. OFFICER MAZZOTTI JOINED US IN OCTOBER OF 2024, BEGAN AS A POLICE CADET AT THE TARRANT COUNTY COLLEGE. OFFICER MIGHT HAVE SERVED AS A TEAM LEADER WHILE ATTENDING THE ACADEMY. OFFICER MAZZOTTI HOLDS TWO BACHELOR'S DEGREES FROM ARIZONA STATE UNIVERSITY, ONE IN HISTORY AND THE OTHER IN POLITICS, AND HOLDS A JURIS DOCTOR DEGREE FROM THE AVE MARIA SCHOOL OF LAW. SO YES, HE IS A LICENSED ATTORNEY. OFFICER CODY POOL. OFFICER CODY POOL JOINED US IN OCTOBER 24TH, BEGAN AS A POLICE CADET AT TEN COUNTY COLLEGE, WHERE HE SERVED AS A GUIDE ON AND RECEIVED THE TOP SHOT AWARD FOR HIS CLASS. OFFICER POOL IS ALSO A MILITARY VETERAN, SERVING AND HAVING SERVED 12 YEARS IN THE UNITED STATES AIR FORCE. OFFICER POOL HOLDS A BACHELOR'S DEGREE FROM ARIZONA STATE UNIVERSITY IN FORENSIC PSYCHOLOGY. OFFICER

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OFFICER MICCICHE IS ALSO A MILITARY VETERAN, HAVING SERVED IN THE COAST GUARD FOR EIGHT YEARS. AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, JOEY ALVAREZ IS ONE OF OUR CIVILIAN EMPLOYEES THAT WE HIRED EARLIER ON THIS YEAR IN JANUARY OF 2024. WE HIRED JOEY. HE SERVES AS A POLICE SUPPORT SPECIALIST, WHICH HE OVERSEES ALL FLEET MAINTENANCE AND PROPERTY AND EVIDENCE WITH THE DEPARTMENT. JOEY IS A CERTIFIED PROPERTY TECHNICIAN AND A MEMBER OF THE TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF PROPERTY AND EVIDENCE TECHNICIANS, AND INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF PROPERTY EVIDENCE TECHNICIANS. JOEY HAS A BACHELOR'S DEGREE IN KINESIOLOGY FROM TEXAS A&M CORPUS CHRISTI, AND THAT IS ALL THE NEW EMPLOYEES WE'VE HIRED IN THIS ONE YEAR. WE'VE GOT THREE MORE OPENINGS. LET'S GO AND GIVE A ROUND OF APPLAUSE. WE DO. WE DO HAVE THREE MORE OPENINGS GIVING JOB OFFERS TO TWO LAST WEEK, SO WE SHOULD HAVE ONLY ONE POSITION LEFT TO FILL AND WE'LL BE AT FULL STAFF AGAIN. HOW MANY IS THIS NET NEW BASED ON ANYBODY ELSE THAT WE'VE LOST? IS THERE ANYBODY LAST YEAR WE LOST TWO LAST YEAR. SO WE'RE AT WITH THESE NEW HIRES THAT I THINK WE'RE GOING TO DO, WE'LL BE AT 28 TO OUR 26 RIGHT NOW. INCREDIBLE GROWTH. CHIEF. YEAH.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OFFICERS, DO YOU WANT TO SHARE WITH THEM? SURE, SURE. LET'S DO IT. LET'S DO IT. YES. CAN I GET. YOU? WANT TO GET DOWN THERE, MAYOR? YEAH. JUST KIND OF INTERWEAVE THERE. YEAH. YEAH. JUST COME ON. Y'ALL TAKING PICTURES BEFORE? YOU. WELCOME.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. WHAT AN INCREDIBLE STEP FORWARD FOR OUR TOWN. THANK YOU, CHIEF,

[2.B. Briefing - Water And Sewer Rates]

SO, JOHN, YOU LOOK FOR HER TO BE THE MOST HATED MAN IN NORTH LAKE, OR. I MEAN, WHY NOT? SO I DON'T HAVE WE LIKE YOU? I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH DISTINCTIONS, SO. BUT GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND JUST KICK OFF THE PRESENTATION. AND WE HAD NGUYEN, WHO'S DONE OUR STUDIES FOR WATER AND SEWER RATES FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS. THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE OVER AND THEY'LL KIND OF EXPLAIN THEIR FINDINGS AND THEIR PROPOSALS FOR THE TOWN AND ANY OTHER METHODOLOGIES. SO JUST TO SET IT UP AS MENTIONED, NGUYEN DID OUR WATER AND WASTEWATER STUDY FOR US. STAFF HAVE BEEN DIRECTED TO DO AN ANNUAL STUDY EACH YEAR TO JUST TRY AND KEEP UP WITH THE ONGOING COSTS RELATED TO OPERATIONS AND RELATED TO INCREASING WHOLESALE COSTS, AND TO TRY AND AVOID ANY OF THESE REALLY LARGE CATCH UP PAYMENTS, BECAUSE WE PUT OFF ANY TYPE OF RATE INCREASES THAT WE NEEDED TO DO. BUT WHEN TALKING ABOUT RATE INCREASES, THERE'S A COUPLE FACTORS THAT AFFECT THE RATES AND WHAT THE RATES NEED TO BE NEED TO BE. ONE OF THOSE RIGHT NOW IS INCREASES IN WHOLESALE WATER AND SEWER COSTS. THOSE CONTINUE TO GO UP AND THOSE ARE PASSED ON COSTS FROM OUR PROVIDERS. FORT WORTH TRA, UPPER TRINITY. THERE'S ALSO INCREASED OPERATIONAL COSTS. SO THAT'S RELATED TO JUST THE COSTS AND PRICE OF GOODS AND SERVICE RELATED TO WATER AND SEWER SERVICES AND PROVIDING THOSE ON OUR OWN END HERE WITHIN THE TOWN. SO EMPLOYEES MAINTAINING ADDITIONAL LINES, EQUIPMENT, THINGS LIKE THAT. AND THEN THERE'S FUNDING FOR ADDITIONAL PROJECTS NEEDED, WATER AND SEWER PROJECTS THAT ARE ONGOING NOW OR IN THE FUTURE, AS WELL AS JUST CONTINUING TO MEET OUR EXISTING DEBT OBLIGATIONS FOR MONEY THAT WE'VE TAKEN OUT FOR PAST WATER AND SEWER PROJECTS TO HELP MAINTAIN THAT SAME LEVEL OF SERVICE HERE IN THE TOWN AND PREPARE FOR THE FUTURE. NOW, ALL OF THAT'S NECESSITATED A SMALL RATE INCREASE OF RECOMMENDED OF 4.75%, WITH THE PRIMARY DRIVER OF THAT BEING THE WHOLESALE COST AND INCREASES IN WATER AND SEWER WHOLESALE COSTS FROM OUR PROVIDERS. TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL CONTEXT REGARDING NORTH LAKE WATER AND SEWER RATES. STAFF. WE'VE DEVELOPED THIS CHART RIGHT HERE JUST LOOKING AT PAST RATES AND UP TO 2025. WITH THIS, THE PROPOSED RATES, YOU CAN SEE IN 2014 TO 2020, WE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING THERE WASN'T ANY RATE ADJUSTMENTS. AND THEN IN 2020,

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SO AS YOU GET TO 25,000 GALLONS AND MORE, THOSE LARGE LOTS ARE USING MORE WATER. IT CAUSING OUR SUBSCRIPTIONS TO GO UP OVER THE YEARS. AND WE JUST NEED TO FIND WAYS TO CONTINUE TO PAY FOR THAT SERVICE AS THOSE COSTS ARE PASSED ON TO US. AND WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND PASS IT OFF TO NGUYEN. AND THEY WILL PROVIDE THEIR PRESENTATION REGARDING OUR WATER AND WASTEWATER RATE STUDY. AND THEN I'LL COME BACK AND JUST WRAP IT UP AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE SPECIFICALLY FOR ME. THANK YOU SIR. EVENING, MAYOR. AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. GOOD TO BE BACK IN FRONT OF YOU. I'M MATTHEW GARRETT WITH NUGENT STRATEGIES AND SOLUTIONS. JOHN HAD BETTER GRAPHICS AND HE GAVE YOU THIS. SO A BIT OF A SPOILER FOR ME, BUT WE'LL GET INTO THE HEART OF IT. AS MENTIONED. THERE IT IS. IT'S THAT WAY. SO AGAIN I'M MATTHEW GARRETT. STEVE. DOUG WAS INSTRUMENTAL AND I LIKE TO MENTION MY TEAM WHEN I COME TO THESE MEETINGS. SO HE DID A LOT OF THE HEAVY LIFTING. COULDN'T BE HERE TONIGHT. BUT HOPEFULLY IN THE NEXT MEETING HE'LL COME AND BE ABLE TO VISIT WITH YOU AS WELL. ALL RIGHT. SO THE OBJECTIVES OF THE STUDY OF COURSE, LIKE EVERY YEAR WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOUR RATE REVENUE IS SUFFICIENT TO COVER YOUR COST. SO THAT INCLUDES YOUR OPERATING EXPENSE, AS MENTIONED ALREADY BY JOHN, YOUR WHOLESALE EXPENSES ARE SUBSTANTIAL. WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE STAY ON TOP OF THOSE AS WELL. AS WE GROW, WE'RE GOING TO NEED MORE WATER SUPPLY. THE NEXT UNIT OF WATER IS GOING TO BE MORE THAN THE LAST ONE. EVERY TIME. AND SO INCREMENTALLY, WE WILL PAY MORE FOR TOMORROW'S WATER THAN THE WATER WE ALREADY BOUGHT. RIGHT. AND SO AS OUR WHOLESALE SUPPLIERS HAVE TO SECURE MORE WATER, THE PRICE WILL GO UP BECAUSE THE NEW WATER IS MORE EXPENSIVE. SO THAT'S A CRITICAL ELEMENT. IT WILL CONTINUE TO BE IN YOUR STUDIES FOR YEARS TO COME BECAUSE YOU HAVE A WHOLESALE SUPPLIER, RIGHT? HOPEFULLY THE GROWTH WILL CONTINUE TO HOLD US FOR A WHILE. WE DO NEED TO MEET OUR EXISTING DEBT SERVICE. WE HAVE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAMED AT 52 MILLION. THOSE ARE CURRENTLY EXPECTED TO BE DEBT FUNDED IN THE PLAN AND THEN WE HAVE OTHER UTILITY FINANCIAL POLICIES. OF COURSE, WE HAVE TO ENSURE YOUR RATES ARE SUFFICIENT TO MAINTAIN YOUR FUND BALANCES TO MEET YOUR DEBT SERVICE COVERAGE AND THE LIKE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO THE TOTAL COST PROJECTIONS HERE, THE OPERATING COST FIRST. SO WE HAVEN'T ADDED DEBT. WE'LL STACK THAT ON IN JUST A MINUTE. AND CAPITAL BUT YOUR OPERATING COSTS ARE RISING ABOUT 9.8% PER YEAR. MOSTLY THAT'S DRIVEN BY YOUR WHOLESALE COST. YOU SEE THAT WE DO HAVE SOME NON RATE REVENUE. SO THAT'S A NEGATIVE. THOSE ARE OTHER INTERESTS EARNINGS ETC.

REVENUES THAT AREN'T FROM RATES RIGHT. IF YOU RECALL WE SAW FOR RATES IN OUR STUDY. SO WE BACK THAT OUT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT RECOVERING TWICE. ALL RIGHT. SO INCLUDING THE CAPITAL RELATED EXPENDITURES THE ANNUAL RATE OF CHANGE IS 13.5% PER YEAR. THAT IS TEMPERED BY A 6% PER YEAR RATE OF GROWTH. BUT YOU'LL SEE THAT YOUR PROJECTED DEBT SERVICE INCREASES OVER TIME. WE TALKED ABOUT ADDING 52 MILLION OF THE PROJECTED DEBT IN THE ORANGE BAR. WE DO HAVE A TAX NOTE FROM 2020 ROLLING OFF IN 27. THE LAST PAYMENT. SO IT'S NEGATIVE OR ZEROED OUT BY 28 RATHER. SO YOU'LL SEE YOUR YELLOW BAR OF EXISTING DEBT ACTUALLY STARTS TO DECLINE. BUT AGAIN WE'VE JUST LAYERED ON YOUR EXISTING AND YOUR PROJECTED DEBT. THE LINE THEN IS YOUR RATE REVENUE REQUIREMENT, RIGHT. SO TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE ABLE TO PAY FOR THE TOTAL, WE HAVE TO HIT THE TOTAL OF THE BAR LESS THE PURPLE OFFSETS. SO THAT'S OUR NET RATE REVENUE REQUIREMENT. SO EFFECTIVELY THAT'S WHAT I'VE SOLVED FOR IN RATE DESIGN. AS MENTIONED THAT'S ABOUT A 4.75% INCREASE. YOUR CURRENT RATE STRUCTURE. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS. WE ACTUALLY MODIFIED THIS WITH COUNCIL SOME YEARS AGO. SO WE AREN'T PROPOSING A CHANGE TO THESE. ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT RATE DESIGN. I FEEL LIKE I'M GOING THROUGH IT QUICKLY BUT I DON'T MIND DOING THAT. I KNOW WHEN JOHN'S FIRST SLIDES WERE UP, WE TALKED ABOUT A, YOU KNOW, 44. SOMETHING PERCENT INCREASE HERE.

BUT THE COSTS ARE WHOLESALE COSTS HAVE GONE UP ABOUT 10%. SO IT'S A GOOD THING WE DON'T HAVE

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AND SO IF OUR 6% OF GROWTH IS COMING ON AND OUR WHOLESALE COST IS INCREASING IN PART BECAUSE OF THEIR VOLUMES AND IN PART BECAUSE OF THE COMMODITY ITSELF IS RISING, THAT GROWTH IS HELPING OFFSET YOUR FIXED COMPONENTS WHILE THEY CONTINUE TO RAISE THE BAR ON YOUR VOLUMETRIC COMPONENT. IF THAT MAKES SENSE. EXCELLENT. COUNCIL DOES THAT HELP ON THAT ONE? SOME? YES. ALL RIGHT. THERE ARE OTHER FACTORS OF COURSE I WASN'T HERE FOR YOUR BUDGET PROCEEDING, BUT WHAT YOU'RE DOING ON YOUR OTHER EXPENSES. RIGHT. OTHER NOT CUTS NECESSARILY. BUT IF YOUR OTHER OPERATING EXPENSES AREN'T RISING AT THE SAME RATE, THEN YOU FIND NOT AUSTERITY. PERHAPS, BUT LESS OF AN INCREASE HERE CAN HANDLE MORE OF AN INCREASE THERE. JUST ON THE EXPENSE SIDE ALONE. OKAY. BUT PRIMARILY GROWTH. MAYOR. OKAY. THIS IS YOUR WASTEWATER RATE STRUCTURE.

AGAIN, WE HAVE A WINTER AVERAGE. DON'T WANT TO TELL YOU YOUR RATES BECAUSE YOU MAY ALREADY KNOW THEM, BUT I LIKE TO PUT THEM ON THE SLIDE. I SAY THIS EVERY MEETING. I DO THIS FOR A LIVING AND I DON'T KNOW MY RATES IN MCKINNEY BECAUSE I DON'T DO THEIR RATES. SO JUST SHARING IT WITH YOU SO WE CAN TALK IN CONTEXT. THE FINANCIAL PLAN WITH NO RATE CHANGE OF COURSE, DOESN'T WORK. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE LEVEL OF INVESTMENT. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WHOLESALE INCREASE.

THIS IS EFFECTIVELY YOUR DASHBOARD WITHOUT CHANGING RATES. SO WITHOUT A RATE CHANGE YOU'LL SEE ON THE LEFT RIGHT YOUR EXPENSES ARE EXCEEDING YOUR REVENUES. THAT COULD WORK FOR DEBT SERVICE COVERAGE. YOU SEE THAT WE'RE STILL OKAY ON THAT METRIC. BUT IF WE LOOK OVER TO THE DIAL FOR FUND BALANCE, WE'RE BELOW OUR TARGETED 50%. BEYOND THAT, WE'RE IN THE RED AND NEGATIVE BY YEAR FIVE. SO NOT TENABLE. BUT WE LIKE TO SHOW YOU WHAT THAT WOULD MEAN IF YOU DIDN'T CHANGE FROM THE STATUS QUO. AS PROPOSED. OF COURSE, THE SAME METRICS WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE'RE HITTING OUR TARGET. AND SO YOU SEE A LITTLE EBB AND FLOW IN THE FUND BALANCE. WE'RE BUILDING THAT UP TO A TARGET OF 50% ON THE FAR RIGHT WITH THIS 4.75% PER ANNUM.

INCREASE YOUR DEBT SERVICE COVERAGE IS SORT OF YOUR CONTROLLING MEASURE. IF I DON'T DO 4.75, WE DON'T HIT THE 1.1 IN YEAR FIVE. NOW WE HAVE FOUR YEARS FOR COUNCIL AND FUTURE COUNCILS TO DECIDE, BUT AS WE PLAN, WE'D RATHER GET A PLAN THAT MEETS ALL YOUR CRITERIA FOR A FIVE YEARS. NOT A SUPER LONG TERM HORIZON, BUT IT'S A GOOD FORECAST TO MUCH FURTHER. AND IT MAY BE FUZZY AND NOT WORTH PROJECTING ANY LESS THAN YOU MAY NOT THINK ABOUT. THE FUTURE. SO WE THINK THIS IS A GOOD HORIZON TO MAKE SURE THE PROJECTION HOLDS. BUT AS JOHN SAYS, YOU LOOK AT THIS EVERY YEAR. IT'S PRUDENT BECAUSE GROWTH CAN CHANGE WHOLESALE CAN CHANGE.

OTHER FACTORS. SO ALL RIGHT SO THOSE ARE THE OUTCOMES. THE IMPACT ON THE MONTHLY RESIDENTIAL BILL YOU'LL SEE CURRENTLY IN 2024. THAT BILL IS A TOTAL ONE 5090. THIS IS FOR 8000 GALLONS OF WATER AND 5000 GALLONS OF SEWER FOR WINTER AVERAGE. THAT GOES UP IN NEXT YEAR BY THAT FOUR POINT SOMETHING PERCENT, A COMMERCIAL BILL. SIMILARLY, YOU'LL SEE ABOUT A 4% INCREASE. THE REASON THESE AREN'T ON THE DOT. THERE IS SOME ROUNDING TO YOUR RATES.

ADDITIONALLY, WHEN WE HAVE A LARGER METER SIZE OR COMMERCIAL RATES, THERE'S SOME ROUNDING THAT'S AFFECTING THE OVERALL PERCENTAGE. SO YOU SEE IT KIND OF EBB AND FLOW FROM 4 TO 4.9 FOR COMMERCIAL QUESTIONS. THOUGHTS ON THESE TWO? OKAY. SO AS COMPARISONS GO SO THIS IS THAT SIMILAR TO JOHN'S PRESENTATION. THIS IS EFFECTIVELY OUR ASSUMED MASTER PLAN OR SMALLER LOT PROPERTY. FOR THAT WE HAVE 8000 GALLONS OF WATER AND 5000 GALLONS FOR A WINTER AVERAGE FOR SEWER. SO YOU'LL SEE IN OUR RELATIVE RANKING, WE GO FROM TOP MIDDLE TO SECOND FROM THE TOP. AT THIS POINT, WE DON'T KNOW ALL OF THE OTHER CHANGES THAT MAY BE COMING FOR RATES FROM OTHERS. WE'VE CAPTURED ALL THAT WE COULD FROM PUBLICLY AVAILABLE DATA.

ADDITIONALLY, MISTI AND THE TEAM HERE DID A GREAT JOB OF REACHING OUT TO CONTACTS TO TRY TO GET THE BEST INTEL WE COULD ON OTHERS. RIGHT. IF WE WANT TO GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, WE HAVE THIS LARGE LOT CUSTOMER HERE. WE HAVE SUBSTANTIAL CONSUMPTION AT 25,000 GALLONS. ASSUMING MAYBE A

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WE DIDN'T GO THROUGH AND DISSECT EACH ONE, BUT JUST KNOW, AS WE SAY IN MOST MEETINGS, YOUR SYSTEM ISN'T THEIR SYSTEM. TODAY'S DEMANDS FOR YOU ARE NOT THEIR DEMANDS. SO WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING FOR INFRASTRUCTURE, MAINTENANCE, PAY, ETC. BUT THIS IS THE COMPARISON. ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE INCREASE? THE METHODOLOGY? ONE OTHER REASON I BELIEVE WE'RE ON THE HIGH SIDE WITH THESE IS THAT WE DON'T SUBSIDIZE WITH PROPERTY TAX BECAUSE OUR PROPERTY TAX IS SO LOW, WE'RE NOT SUBSIDIZING THE WATER SYSTEM. IT'S A PAY AS YOU GO PAY AS YOU USE PLAN. SO FOR ANYBODY LOOKING OUT IN THE PUBLIC TONIGHT, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU NEED TO KEEP IN MIND THAT THE TAX RATES AND THESE OTHER TOWNS HELP SUBSIDIZE SOME OF THEIR WATER. NOT ALL OF THEM, BUT A NUMBER OF THEM DO SUBSIDIZE THAT THROUGH THEIR TAX RATES. ALSO, WE DON'T HAVE UPDATED NUMBERS FOR FUTURE ACTIONS FROM FUTURE FROM OTHER COUNCILS IN THESE TOWNS. THEY'RE GOING TO BE MEETING THIS MONTH AND NEXT MONTH TO DISCUSS THEIR RATES. SO I EXPECT TO SEE A BUNCH OF THESE SHIFT UP. THAT'S WHAT I'D BE INTERESTED TO SEE, BECAUSE I LIKE SEEING IT LINED UP. BUT SEEING THIS COMPARED WITH WHAT THEIR TAX RATES ARE FOR THE SAME TOWNS TO SHOW KIND OF THE INEQUITY. SURE. AND JUST REMEMBER, TONIGHT IS A BRIEFING ONLY THERE'S NO ACTION TONIGHT. SO IF YOU HAVE TONIGHT'S THE NIGHT TO GO IN DEPTH. IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR, FOR HIM OR FOR JOHN. SO YOU'RE WELCOME FOR ANYTHING ELS.

HOW MANY OF THESE TOWNS HAVE PEOPLE THAT HAVE A LOT OF PRIVATE WELLS? AND I KNOW THAT FOR CERTAIN, HAVE MANY. KELLER DOESN'T HAVE MANY, BUT THERE ARE STILL SOME PROPERTIES ON WELLS TROPHY CLUB ACTUALLY HAS USES SOME PROPERTY TAX TO SUBSIDIZE THEIR SYSTEM. DOUBLE OAK I THINK IS A SMALLER LOT TO EACH PROPERTY. YEAH. ANY ANY LONG STANDING LOT COULD HAVE A WELL RIGHT. EVEN IF IT DEVELOPED AROUND PLANO IT COULD STILL HAVE A WELL. SO I DON'T KNOW, JUST OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD WHO HAS WELLS BUT RELIANCE ON THE WELLS FOR MOST OF THEIR USERS. WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT IT YET, BUT THERE'S ALSO A COMMERCIAL MIX, RIGHT. COMPARING TO KELLER, MAYBE TOUGH. THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT COMPOSITION. THEY'RE AT A DIFFERENT LIFE CYCLE. AND SOMETHING WE NOTICED IS MOST OF THE ONES AT THE TOP ARE FAST GROWING OR STILL GROWING. STILL YOUNG AND BUILDING OUT THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE. THE ONES AT THE BOTTOM ARE TWO TYPICALLY BUILT OUT, AND SO MATT CAN TALK TO THAT AS WELL AS YOU WOULD IMAGINE AS YOU'RE BUILDING OUT, YOU'VE YOU'VE GOT MORE DEBT. YOU'RE TRYING TO BUILD YOUR SYSTEM WITH THIS SLIDE, WE TRIED TO COMPARE LARGER LOT COMMUNITIES AS BEST WE COULD. IT WASN'T A PERFECT FIT. BUT AND THEN THE OTHER SLIDE, WE DID MORE MASTER PLAN COMMUNITIES. SO IT WAS MORE OF AN APPLES TO APPLES. SO DOES THIS MEAN THAT AS WE BUILD OUT AND MATURE AS A COMMUNITY, THAT OUR WATER COSTS WILL GO BACK DOWN? WE WON'T GO DOWN, THEY WON'T GO. THEY WON'T GO UP AS FAST? YEAH. AND YOU KNOW, IT JUST IT DEPENDS ON YOUR SYSTEM. YOU MAY HAVE TO YOU MAY NEED TO REFURBISH YOUR SYSTEM.

YOU MAY HAVE TO. YOU MAY HAVE DEPENDS ON YOUR SOILS. IF YOU HAVE A LOT OF BREAKS. THERE'S SO MANY FACTORS. BUT I WOULDN'T SAY IT WOULD GO DOWN. I WOULD SAY IT WOULDN'T GO UP AS FAST. YEAH, YEAH. ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY. I THINK WE'RE GOOD ON THAT. THANK YOU SIR. APPRECIATE IT. IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN. GOOD SEEING YOU. OKAY. AS PROMISED, I'M BACK. JUST TO WRAP UP REALLY QUICK, JUST KIND OF NEXT STEPS. SO KIND OF HAD THE BRIEFING TONIGHT, DISCUSSED WHAT THOSE RATES ARE ON THE 12TH WOULD BE THE ITEM FOR ADOPTION OF THESE RATES BY COUNCIL. AND THEN ASSUMING THEY WERE ADOPTED, STAFF WOULD GO AHEAD. WE'D NOTIFY RESIDENTS IN THE DECEMBER BILLING. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS AWARE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING SO THEY CAN PLAN FOR IT. AND THEN THOSE RATES WOULD TAKE EFFECT IN THE JANUARY BILLING CYCLE. SO AND THAT IS WHERE WE ARE AT. I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION. YEAH. WHEN WE ADOPT THE RATES AFTER LOOKING AT THE PROJECTION FOR WHAT THAT INCREASE IN RATES WOULD DO FOR US OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, DOES THAT MEAN WE DON'T HAVE TO CONTINUOUSLY RAISE THE RATES OR THIS IS A THAT WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT IT EVERY YEAR? THE GOAL AS FAR AS STAFF'S BEEN DIRECTED, IS TO LOOK AT THIS EVERY YEAR, TO

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OTHERWISE YES. YOU'RE YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE WATER RATES. AND WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO BRING THOSE TO YOU. WE'RE TRYING TO DO THE NECESSARY INCREASE EVERY YEAR TYPICALLY IS GOING TO BE A SMALLER INCREASE, MORE OF AN INCREMENTAL INCREASE INSTEAD OF THESE LARGE CATCH UPS. NOW WE'VE HAD SOME SITUATIONS WHERE WE'VE HAD LARGE REGIONAL PROJECTS THAT WE NEEDED THAT LARGER INCREASE.

BUT OUR GOAL IS TO MAKE THAT SLOPE NOT AS AS HIGH, BUT DO IT, DO IT EVERY YEAR. SO THE FIVE YEAR PROJECTION IS REALLY JUST TO TELL US WHAT OUR BEST GUESS IS RIGHT NOW FOR THIS INCREASE.

TRUE. NOT TRUE. SO WE'RE WE'RE ESTIMATING A LITTLE LESS THAN 5% EVERY YEAR. BUT GROWTH COULD COULD COVER SOME OF THAT. YOU KNOW, WE COULD GET SOME OTHER BREAKS OF COURSE BY THE SAME TOKEN IT MAY GO THE OTHER WAY. SO JUST TO CLARIFY ON ONE OF THOSE, AND I THINK YOU JUST SAID IT ON THE SLIDE, SAID 4.75% EACH YEAR FOR THE NEXT YEAR TO KIND OF KEEP US. IS THAT CORRECT? IT'S 4.75 THIS YEAR. I THINK ONE YEAR IT'S 4.91 YEAR. IT'S ACTUALLY CLOSER TO 4.5. IT'LL BE AROUND THAT RANGE. WE ARE KIND OF DOING IT EXACTLY. WE'RE DOING EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED. AND SO IT'S GOING TO RANGE BETWEEN 4.5. IT WON'T I DON'T THINK IT'LL EVER GET OVER 5% BUT IT'LL BE IN THAT RANGE. BUT THERE IS GOING TO BE AN INCREASE MINIMAL INCREASE EACH YEAR. INCREASE YEAR. KIND OF KEEP US INTO THAT FIFTH YEAR TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE WANT TO DO. GOING FORWARD OR IF THIS IS, WELL, IT GETS US THROUGH FIVE YEARS AND WE'LL PROBABLY, AS WE DO THE NEXT ONE, WE'LL WE'LL STRETCH OUT THAT FIVE YEARS, WHICH WILL BE THE SIXTH YEAR FROM TODAY. YEAH.

WHEN, WHEN WE NOTIFY THE RESIDENTS OF THIS INCREASE, IS THERE ANY OPPORTUNITY FOR AN EDUCATION PIECE TO SHOW WHAT WE ARE DOING TO KEEP THESE RATES AS LOW AS POSSIBLE? I MEAN, I THINK IT'S NATURAL FOR PEOPLE TO COMPARE TO TOWNS AND CITIES AROUND US WITHOUT THE BACK INFORMATION LIKE SUBSIDIZING AND SHOWING WHAT OUR TAXES AREN'T PAYING FOR VERSUS WHAT THEY ARE.

IS THERE ANY OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT TO REALLY SHOW LIKE THE TRUE NUMBER? YEAH, I'M SURE THERE'S OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL CONTEXT TO RESIDENTS BESIDES JUST HERE'S THE RATE.

CONGRATULATIONS. SO YEAH, I'M SURE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK AT AND DEVELOP AND DO ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND ADD INTO THE BILLS. WE HAVE BITS AND PIECES OF THAT, ESPECIALLY IN THE BUDGET AND BRIEF. ANOTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO MENTION IS WE'LL DO A BIG EDUCATION PUSH ON YOUR WINTER AVERAGING. WE HAVE A LOT. WE CONSTANTLY HAVE NEW RESIDENTS. AND SO TO EDUCATE THEM TO KEEP THEIR WATER CONSUMPTION DOWN DURING DECEMBER, JANUARY AND FEBRUARY BECAUSE THAT'S HOW WE GAUGE YOUR SEWER USAGE. SO WE'LL DO A BIG EDUCATION PIECE ON THAT. AND THAT'S KIND OF WHY ARE WE TIME THIS SO IT'S HEY THE RATES ARE GOING UP AND YOU HAVE SOME CONTROL ON ON AT LEAST ON YOUR SEWER RATES. HOW YOU CAN LOWER THAT NUMBER. ALL RIGHT. THANK

[2.C. Briefing - Ponder Interim Water Service]

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THEY ARE. THEY'RE CURRENTLY SUPPLIED BY WELLS AND THAT IT JUST CAN'T KEEP UP WITH THE PACE. SO THEY ARE A MEMBER OF THE UPPER TRINITY REGIONAL WATER DISTRICT, WHICH WE'RE A MEMBER OF AS WELL. BUT THEY DON'T HAVE A DIRECT LINE TO THEM. NOW, WHEN WE BUILT THE WATER LINE IN FLORENCE ROAD AT THE TIME, WE NEEDED 12IN AND THE DIAMETER 12 INCH DIAMETER PIPE. THE UPPER TRINITY ACTUALLY OVERSIZE IT TO 16IN. AND WE'RE STILL NOT USING ALL THAT CAPACITY. SO PART OF IT, PART OF THE LINE IS THEY'RE. BUT FOR US TO GET THE REST OF IT THERE, THAT'S ONLY UP TO YARBOROUGH LANE. SO WE STILL HAVE TO GET TO THE TOWN OF PONDER. AND WE NEED TO MAKE SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO OUR SYSTEM. AND HERE ARE THE LIST OF THOSE IMPROVEMENTS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IN THE LONG RANGE PLAN. THE NORTHWEST ELEVATED STORAGE TANK WEST OF FLORENCE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF TOWN. THIS WOULD BE NECESSARY TO PUSH THAT PRESSURE TO THE TOWN OF PONDER. THIS IS WHAT WHAT THEY NEED. WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THIS. NOW REMEMBER, THIS IS UPPER TRINITY WATER COMING TO US. THAT WE'RE PUSHING THROUGH OUR SYSTEM TO HELP TO GET PONDER THEIR WATER PRESSURE. WE'RE GOING TO NEED THIS ANYWAY. PONDER NEEDS IT MUCH SOONER. WE WOULD WE WOULD HAVE MINOR IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PUMP STATION. MAY NEED TO GET A MORE ROBUST BACKUP GENERATOR AND POSSIBLY TWEAK OUR CHLORAMINES TREATMENT SYSTEM. IT IS TREATED WHEN IT COMES FROM UPPER TRINITY. WE JUST TOP IT OFF TO MAKE SURE ALL THE RESIDUALS ARE THERE. WE TYPICALLY DON'T HAVE TO DO THIS VERY OFTEN, BUT AND THEN WE'D NEED A GROUND STORAGE TANK BECAUSE WE'D HAVE TO HAVE ENOUGH STORAGE TO HANDLE THOSE PUSHING THEM LARGE. YOU KNOW, WATER DURING THE EARLY MORNING, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HAVE THOSE HIGH USAGES. AND WE'RE NOT READY FOR THAT EITHER, BECAUSE WE'RE STILL GOING TO DESIGN THE PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING AND MOVE SOME STUFF AROUND. SO ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE THINGS WE NEED. BUT WE COULD PARTNER WITH PONDER AND SHARE THE COST BECAUSE IT IS MUCH LIKE YOUR WATER RATES. IT'S GOING TO GET MORE EXPENSIVE IN THE FUTURE. SO THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY HERE TO PARTNER WITH THE TOWN OF PONDER AND HAVE THEM PAY SUBSIDIZE FOR SOME OF OUR FUTURE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED ANYWAY. SO LET ME SHOW YOU KIND OF WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE ON THE MAP. SO I THINK I CAN DO THIS RIGHT. LET ME SEE. SO NO, NO I CAN'T. LET ME TRY AGAIN. ALL RIGHT. SO. AND I WAS GOING TO GET THE NAME OF THIS ROAD. THIS IS NOT BLAIR ROAD BUT THIS IS THIS IS THE EDGE OF OUR ETJ IN KIND OF THE LIGHT SHADED AREA JUST SOUTH OF HERE IS YARBOROUGH. THIS IS FLORENCE ROAD. AND TAKE THIS UP. SO THIS WOULD BE THE LINE THAT WOULD GET GET US TO GET OUR WATER TO PONDER AND THEN THIS IS THE SOUTHERN. THERE'S A SOUTHERN PART OF IT. OUR LINE ENDS THERE AT YARBOROUGH. AND THEN IT WOULD CONTINUE UP. SO WE BASICALLY SPLIT THIS MAP BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A SUCH A LONG MAP THERE. AND THEN I'LL, I'LL BACK OFF AGAIN SO YOU CAN SEE THAT, THAT WATER LINE, THE ORANGE WATER LINE WOULD BE AT THIS POINT. WE WOULD AT THE END OF OUR ETJ. THIS WOULD BE THEIR METER STATION TO GET THAT WATER THE REST OF THE WAY UP. AND THEN JUST BACKING UP, TAKING A LARGE VIEW. THERE'S THAT SAME LINE THERE AND AT YARBOROUGH. AND THEN WE HAVE COMING ALL THE WAY DOWN ONCE IT GETS TO OUR SYSTEM, WE HAVE ENOUGH CAPACITY IN OUR SYSTEM TO PUSH IT FROM THE PUMP STATION. SO WE'D HAVE AN ADDITIONAL GROUND STORAGE TANK. WE HAVE THE PUMPING CAPACITY. WE JUST UPGRADED THAT. SO WE CAN WE CAN

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AND SO ONE OF THE QUESTIONS YOU ALWAYS ASK IS HOW DO WE GET OUT OF THIS. AND THEY ARE, LIKE I SAID A MEMBER OF UPPER TRINITY AND UPPER TRINITY IN THEIR MASTER PLAN HAS A LOOP THAT WOULD SUPPLY THEM AND WOULD PROBABLY BE A ROUTE VERY SIMILAR TO THE ROUTE WE'RE TAKING WATER UP TO THEM, AND IT WOULD BE AN UPPER TRINITY PLAN. AND WE COULD WE COULD CAP THE DELIVERY WE GIVE TO PONDER AT THAT AMOUNT. AND THEY'D EITHER HAVE TO DRILL MORE WELLS OR GET UPPER TRINITY TO FAST FORWARD THEIR PROJECT. SO SOME OF THE THINGS WE'D BE LEFT WITH, WE'D BE LEFT WITH ALL OUR INFRASTRUCTURE. WE WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT AHEAD OF SCHEDULE ON BUILDING OUR STUFF. WE GET IT EARLIER, A LITTLE CHEAPER. WE WOULD STILL HAVE THAT CONNECTION. IF THERE IS AN EMERGENCY AND WE NEED TO GET WATER FROM THEM OR THEY NEED TO GET WATER FROM US. WE HAVE A EMERGENCY CONNECTION WITH ARGYLE WATER SUPPLY CORPORATION. WHEN ROANOKE BUILDS A BALL FIELDS, WE'RE ALREADY COORDINATING WITH THEM TO HAVE AN EMERGENCY INTERCONNECT THERE. SO JUST A GOOD REGIONAL APPROACH. AND THEN FINALLY KIND OF BACK TO THE VERY BEGINNING, WE COULD GET WATER SERVICE TO THAT AREA AND USE THAT AS A WAY TO CONVINCE PROPERTY OWNERS TO NEGOTIATE WITH THEM TO COME INTO THE TOWN AND NOT LOSE THAT, NOT GET THAT AREA RELEASED. AND POSSIBLY THE CITY OF DENTON, BECAUSE CITY OF DENTON IS JUST RIGHT ACROSS FLORENCE AND PROVIDING WATER TO THEM AND LOSING THEM COMPLETELY. I KNOW IT'S A GOAL OF THE COUNCIL TO ANNEX AREAS IN OUR ETJ. IF THAT'S STILL THE GOAL. SO THREW A LOT AT YOU. POTENTIAL PARTNERSHIP A LOT OF QUESTIONS REMAIN, BUT WANTED TO GET YOUR INPUT AND YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS. I GOT IT. JUST A QUICK QUESTION.

YOU SAID WE WOULD NEED THESE RENOVATIONS SOONER OR LATER. WHAT'S THE TIME FRAME OF SOONER OR LATER? WE NEED TO START. WE PROBABLY WITHIN THE A YEAR. WE NEED TO START DESIGNING THAT STORAGE TANK. WE WITHOUT WITHOUT THE PONDER SCENARIO WITHOUT PONDER. SO ON THIS GRAPHIC TO THE RIGHT THERE, THE GREEN IS AN UPPER PRESSURE. PRESSURE PLANE AND THE PURPLE IS A LOWER PRESSURE PLANE. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE PRESSURE REDUCING VALVES HERE AND WE ARE GETTING TO THE AMOUNT OF HOMES IN THIS LOWER PRESSURE PLANE THAT'S GOING TO NECESSITATE AN ELEVATED STORAGE TANK. SO THAT ONE'S THAT ONE'S MAYBE WE HAVE MAYBE ANOTHER YEAR IF WE DON'T START WITH PONDER RIGHT AWAY THE GROUND STORAGE TANK, WE HAD A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME, MAYBE 2 OR 3 YEARS ON THE GROUND STORAGE. BUT IF WE WE'RE STILL GOING TO NEED IT. BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO SUPPLY THE PONDE, WE COULD GET THEM TO PAY. YOU KNOW, A PROPORTION OF THAT. AND MAYBE THAT'S PART OF MR. FOWLER THAT MAYBE THAT'S PART OF THE NEGOTIATIONS. IS, IS IF WE NEED IF WE DON'T NEED IT FOR A WHILE, YOU'RE GOING TO PAY A HIGHER PERCENTAGE IF WE NEED IT SOONER THAN IT WOULD BE FAIR FOR US TO PAY A LARGER PERCENTAGE OF THAT. SO MAYBE THAT'S PART OF THE NEGOTIATIONS. IF YOU'D LIKE US TO APPROACH IT THAT WAY. BUT THAT'S WHAT I WAS I WAS GOING TO ASK THAT IF THAT'S HOW YOU WERE PLANNING ON APPROACHING ONE, LIKE I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO LIVE IN THREE DIFFERENT TOWNS,

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YOU JUST ILLUSTRATED HOW MUCH MORE THE COST WAS FOR A SMALLER TANK, YOU KNOW, 3 OR 4 YEARS AGO. TANK. RIGHT. AND SO TIMES AS MUCH AS A SMALLER TECH DOES NOW. YEAH. RIGHT. SO IF IT SAVES MONEY AND IT HELPS THE NEIGHBOR, IT'S I MEAN I DON'T SEE ANY ISSUES WITH IT AT ALL. AND THE DEVIL'S IN THE DETAILS AND THERE'S A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH. WE NEED TO HAVE. I JUST WANT BEFORE WE EVEN GET STARTED, I WANT TO MAKE SURE BRIEF COUNCIL AND IF YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS OR ANY PRIORITIES, YOU WANT US TO LOOK AT, THAT'S WHAT I'D WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE END UP ON THE UPSIDE, BASICALLY KIND OF THE SAME WAY THAT YOU LAID IT OUT. I DON'T WANT TO. I LIKE WHEN IT'S MUTUAL BENEFIT OR SAVES US MONEY IN THE LONG RUN, BUT NOT US SUBSIDIZING SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO. AND SO SOMETHING ELSE THAT THEY HAVE DEVELOPERS KNOCKING AT THE DOOR AND THOSE DEVELOPERS ARE EITHER GOING TO HAVE TO BUILD THE LINE OUT TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF, OF DECERTIFYING AND GETTING OUT OF THE ETJ, OR THEY MAY BE ACTUALLY IN THE TOWN LIMITS. SO THOSE DEVELOPERS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BUILD SOME INFRASTRUCTURE. SO A LOT OF THE MONEY WE GET FROM PONDER MAY NOT BE NECESSARILY PONDER CASH. IT'LL BE DEVELOPER CASH. AND SO WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE YOU KNOW LEVERAGE THAT. YEAH. CAN THEY DO IT WITHOUT US. CAN THEY MEET THESE NEEDS WITHOUT NOT THIS PARTNERSHIP. NOT IN THE NEAR TERM OKAY. NOT IN THE NEAR TERM.

THAT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT I WOULD BE COGNIZANT OF DURING THE NEGOTIATION. AND WE'RE YEAH, WE'RE WE'RE TRYING TO BE PARTNERS. WE'RE NOT GOING TO JEOPARDIZE THE TOWN SYSTEM.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO SUBSIDIZE THEIR SYSTEM. THOSE ARE THOSE ARE NONSTARTERS. AND THEY HAVEN'T ASKED FOR ANY OF THOSE. IF WE DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS AND DO IT EARLY OR DOESN'T IMPACT ANY OTHER PROJECTS THAT THE TOWN IS CURRENTLY DOING, AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, STAFFING WISE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. IT MIGHT IT MIGHT CAUSE US TO HIRE A LITTLE BIT EARLIER, BUT MINIMAL. THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS JUST ONE LINE AT THIS POINT, AND IT'S COMPARED TO OUR WHOLE SYSTEM, OUR WHOLE WATER SYSTEM. IT'S A IT'S A VERY SMALL FRACTION OF THAT, NOT A VERY SMALL A FRACTION OF THAT. ANOTHER THING IS IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET UP TO BLAIR ROAD AND TO GET THESE PROPERTIES WATER. SO AND THAT'S UNKNOWN IF WE'RE GOING TO GET NEW CUSTOMERS ON THIS LINE, THAT WOULD BE THE GOAL IS TO PROVIDE WATER TO GET THEM TO IF THEY'RE ALREADY IN THE TOWN OR IF THEY'RE NOT IN THE TOWN TO ANNEX IT TO THE TOW, WHICH THAT'S THE PART THAT I THINK I'M HEARING NOW THAT I MISSED WHEN YOU SAID IT THE FIRST TIME. SO THIS ALSO SPEEDS UP WHEN WE CAN MAKE THAT ASK FOR COME INTO THE TOWN, BECAUSE NOW WE CAN SERVICE YOU WATER. RIGHT.

EXACTLY, EXACTLY. AND SO WE'VE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A NUMBER OF DEVELOPMENTS IN THIS AREA AND A NUMBER OF CIP PROJECTS. WE REALLY HAVE NOTHING TO OFFER THEM RIGHT NOW. AND ACTUALLY THIS AREA IS A HODGEPODGE OF PONDER, SERVICE AND, WELL, NORTH LAKE SERVICE STOPS HERE. BUT PONDER HAS GOT A SIX INCH LINE, A THREE INCH LINE, A TWO INCH LINE. THEY'RE KIND OF RUNNING THROUGH THIS AREA AND WE'D LIKE TO CLEAN THAT UP. WE'D LIKE THAT ALL TO BE PART OF OUR SYSTEM.

OUR MINIMUM LINE IS AN EIGHT INCH LINE, SO IT'S A MUCH MORE ROBUST SYSTEM. AND THIS IS THIS IS AN AREA IT'S PART OF OUR RURAL RESERVE. SO THIS THIS IS AN AREA THAT WE'D LIKE TO. YES, THAT WE'D LIKE TO SERVE. ALL RIGHT. SO A FEW THINGS ON SOME OF THIS FINER DETAILS OF THE NEGOTIATE ON. THEY SHOULD BE ACQUIRING ALL THE RIGHT OF WAY AND PAYING FOR THAT BECAUSE IT'S IN THEIR TOWN, THEIR IMPACT FEES WILL HOPEFULLY BE FUNDING SOME OF THIS. AND MAYBE WE HELP ADVISE THEM ON IMPACT FEES, BECAUSE THEY'RE PROBABLY NOT QUITE SET UP FOR THAT YET. AND FINALLY, IS IN THE EARLY PHASES OF THIS, THEY'RE GOING TO BE A LOT OF LINE FLUSHES GOING ON.

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PERSONAL. YES. WELL, I LOOK FORWARD TO YOU BRINGING US MORE INFORMATION ON THIS. I'M OKAY TO KEEP LOOKING AT IT AND START NEGOTIATIONS. OKAY? AS ALWAYS, MAKE SURE IT'S FISCALLY SOUND AND I KNOW THAT THAT'S WHAT YOU ALWAYS DO. BUT SURE. YES, SIR. ANYTHING ELSE? COUNCIL. THANK

[2.D. Briefing - Regulation Of Nuisances Beyond Town Limits]

AND OUR UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT COD. AND YOU CAN AS THE MAYOR MENTIONED, YOU CAN ENFORCE THOSE REGULATIONS BEYOND TOWN LIMITS. SO HOME RULE MUNICIPALITIES MAY REGULATE NUISANCES WITHIN 5000FT OF TOWN LIMITS OUTSIDE OF TOWN LIMITS. THAT'S BY STATE LAW. NORTH LAKE BECAME HOME RULE WHEN THE CHARTER WAS ADOPTED BACK IN MAY OF 21. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE ADVANTAGES OF BEING HOME RULE.

AND HAVING THAT CHARTER. AND WITHIN THE TOWN CHARTER, IT GENERALLY GIVES THE TOWN COUNCIL POWER TO DEFINE THOSE NUISANCES AND TO PROHIBIT THEM WITHIN THE TOWN, AS WELL AS A DISTANCE OF 5000FT BEYOND THE TOWN LIMITS. BASICALLY, JUST MIMICKING WHAT THE STATE LAW ALLOWS. BUT FOR

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IN ADDITION TO THAT FROM STATE LAW. SO IN THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, ARTICLE 8.02 IS ON NOISE. AND THERE'S A SECTION ON LOUD, UNNECESSARY OR UNUSUAL NOISE BEING PROHIBITED. SAYS A LOT THERE, BUT DOESN'T INCLUDE ANY SPECIFIC NOISE LEVEL. NO DECIBEL LEVEL IS REFERENCED.

THERE'S ANOTHER SECTION THAT GETS INTO MORE DETAILS ON SPECIFIC TYPES OF NOISES AND THE PROHIBITIONS ON THEM. AND HERE ARE SOME OF THOSE. YOU'LL NOTICE SOME OF THESE INCLUDE LIMITATIONS ON TIME OF DAY DISTANCE. YOU NOTICE THAT LAST ONE IS A OUR CONSTRUCTION WORK HOURS AND NOISE FROM CONSTRUCTION THAT'S INCLUDED IN THIS SECTION. SO I THINK SOME UPDATES FOR CONSIDERATION TO OUR NOISE REGULATIONS THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY TO BE ABLE TO BETTER ENFORCE OUR CURRENT NOISE REGULATIONS AND TO ENFORCE THEM OUTSIDE OF THE TOWN LIMITS, AS ALLOWED BY LAW, IS WE NEED TO AMEND THAT. ARTICLE 8.02 TO SPECIFICALLY DECLARE THE VIOLATION OF THAT ARTICLE AS A NUISANCE AND CLARIFY THAT IT IS TO APPLY TO AREAS OUTSIDE OF THE TOWN LIMITS FOR A DISTANCE OF 5000FT, AND TO ADD A DECIBEL LIMIT AS AN OBJECTIVE STANDARD FOR EASIER ENFORCEMENT. AND I'VE INCLUDED A COUPLE EXAMPLES. YOU COULD HAVE JUST ONE MAX LEVEL THAT WOULD BE APPLIED EVERYWHERE IN THE TOWN AT ALL TIMES. YOU COULD ALSO HAVE DIFFERING LIMITS BASED ON THE TIME OF DAY, WHETHER IT'S DAY OR NIGHT, WHETHER IT'S RESIDENTIAL, NON RESIDENTIAL. THAT SEEMS TO BE KIND OF THE MORE COMMON BREAKUP. AND OTHER CITIES. THIS EXAMPLE THAT I'VE INCLUDED HERE, DIVIDING BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL AND NON RESIDENTIAL AND DAY AND NIGHT HOURS IS WHAT THE CITY OF FORT WORTH USES. AND FOR FRAME OF REFERENCE I'VE INCLUDED THIS SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT A SPECIFIC DECIBEL LEVEL ACTUALLY MEANS. SO YOU'LL NOTICE THAT SOUNDS ABOVE THAT 85 DECIBEL THRESHOLD CAN BE HARMFUL. AND THAT'S WHY THAT'S SETTING AS A THRESHOLD. AND STATE LAW. BUT LEVELS LESS THAN THAT COULD STILL BE ANNOYING, COULD BE A NUISANCE. NOW I'LL GO INTO OUTDOOR LIGHTING REGULATIONS. I WANTED TO SHOW THIS FIRST. THESE ARE SOME PRINCIPLES FOR RESPONSIBLE OUTDOOR LIGHTING AND JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT OUR REGULATIONS ADDRESS ALL OF THESE AND ACTUALLY, JUST A FEW YEARS AGO, WE UPDATED SOME OF THOSE REGULATIONS SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO ITEM FOUR ON CONTROLLED USE OF LIGHT AND FIVE ON USING WARM COLORS. AND SOME MORE DETAILS ON OUR OUTDOOR LIGHTING REGULATIONS ARE INCLUDED IN THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE. SO MOST OF THESE STANDARDS APPLY TO NEW DEVELOPMENT. AND WITHIN THE TOWN LIMITS. THERE IS A SECTION THAT THAT REFERENCES PROPERTIES IN THE ETJ THAT CAN BE THESE REGULATIONS CAN BE APPLIED THROUGH AGREEMENTS. AND THEN THERE ARE THERE IS A SECTION

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AND TO RESIDENTIALLY ZONED PROPERTIES IN THE TOWN LIMITS. SO I GUESS THIS WOULD APPLY TO ETJ PROPERTIES THAT ARE DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO TOWN LIMITS, BUT ALSO CALLS CERTAIN CALLS FOR CERTAIN LIGHTING LEVELS AS NUISANCES, AND APPLIES THIS IN THE ETJ AS WELL. SO THESE ARE 0.25FT CANDLES. AND AT A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY LINE AND 2.25FT CANDLES AT NON RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY LINES. SO SOME UPDATES FOR CONSIDERATION. HERE IS IT'S KIND OF CONFUSING CONFUSING HAVING THAT NUISANCE REFERENCE IN THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE. AND THERE'S ALSO SOME NEW STATE LAW WHICH ADDS SOME ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS IN ORDER TO REGULATE OUTDOOR LIGHTING. SO THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL STEPS THAT WOULD BE NEED TO BE PROVIDED IN ADDITION TO WHAT'S LISTED HERE POTENTIALLY. BUT SIMILARLY TO THE UPDATING THE NOISE REGULATIONS, YOU NEED TO DEFINE CERTAIN OUTDOOR LIGHTING VIOLATIONS AS A NUISANCE.

PROVIDE FOR THE APPLICATION OUTSIDE OF THE TOWN LIMITS FOR THE DISTANCE OF 5000FT.

SPECIFICALLY, AND YOU'D WANT TO REITERATE THAT FOOT CANDLE LIMIT THAT IS INCLUDED IN THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE AND THE PROPOSALS THAT INCLUDE THESE IN THE SAME CHAPTER THAT IN THE OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES THAT ARE NOISE REGULATIONS ARE IN. SO THERE'S OBVIOUSLY OTHER NUISANCES THAT COULD BE INCLUDED. BUT THESE ARE KIND OF THE TWO THAT WE WANTED TO TAKE A LOOK AT AND DISCUSS. AND I JUST WANTED YOUR FEEDBACK ON HOW TO POTENTIALLY MOVE FORWARD ON THESE. COUNCIL. THAT'S A LOT TO DIGEST. AND I WAS CURIOUS IF ANYBODY HAD ANY OTHER TYPES OF NUISANCES THAT ARE ON YOUR MINDS BECAUSE WE'RE ON TOPIC AND STAFF'S DOING RESEARCH. SO I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE ANYBODY'S THINKING OF OR, AND, OR ANY COMMENTS ON THIS STUFF SO FAR. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS BACK UP AGAIN, BECAUSE AS WE GROW, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE REALLY NEED TO CONSIDER FOR ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS. AND IT'S WORTH TAKING A LOOK AT. TO BE MORE SPECIFIC, I GOT A QUESTION ON JUST THE NUISANCE. HOW MANY NUISANCE CALLS DO WE TYPICALLY GET, EITHER IN A WEEK OR A MONTH, OR IS IT? OBVIOUSLY IT VARIES, BUT IS THERE AN AVERAGE ON THAT? THAT'D PROBABLY BE MORE FOR CHIEF. HE'S RIGHT BEHIND YO.

COME ON UP. AND I ASKED HIM THIS QUESTION EARLIER. I LOOK AT NOISE COMPLAINTS TODAY FROM JANUARY UNTIL OCTOBER 31ST, WE HAD ABOUT 160 NOISE COMPLAINTS. IT ALSO DEPENDS ON HOW DISPATCH ENTERS THAT CALL. IT COULD BE A NOISE COMPLAINT. IT COULD BE A MEAT COMPLAINT. IT COULD BE A DISTURBANCE. SO THERE'S SEVERAL DIFFERENT FACTORS ON WHO'S PUTTING THE CALL IN. BUT AS FAR AS JUST PARTICULARLY NOISE COMPLAINTS, WE'VE HAD ABOUT 160 THIS YEAR SO FAR. AND THE FOLLOW UP ON THAT, WHEN WE GET THEM, HOW ARE WE MEASURING THE DECIBELS OF THAT COMPLAINT? YOU OBVIOUSLY YOU WOULD HAVE TO CATCH THEM IN THE ACT, I WOULD ASSUME. AND WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO MEASURE THEM RIGHT NOW, USUALLY BY THE STATE GUIDELINES WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM A WARNING FIRST AND SAY, CAN YOU TURN THE NOISE DOWN? AND 99.9% OF PEOPLE ARE COMPLIANT WITH THAT. SO WE JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT. BUT WE WILL BE PURCHASING SOME DECIBEL METERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO ARE YOU ALSO ALLOWED TO, BY STATE LAW, ALLOWED TO USE THE LIKE PHONE APPS FOR DECIBEL METERS? I THINK IT'S GOT TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN CERTIFY. OKAY. JUST YOU GOT TO CALIBRATE WHEN I WAS AN OFFICER, WE HAD WE COULDN'T USE OUR PHONES AT ALL BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE A SEPARATE DEVICE. IF WE CHANGE THE. I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS, BUT I'M GOING TO KEEP THIS ONE FOR A WHILE. CHIEF CRAWFORD'S HERE FOR THE NOISE COMPLAINTS AND THE NUISANCE CALLS THAT WE GET. HOW MANY OF THOSE ARE ALREADY COVERED BY THE NUISANCE RULES THAT WE HAVE? WELL, IF THEY'RE OUTSIDE OF OUR TOWN, WE CAN'T ENFORCE ANYTHING BY ORDINANCE, BUT WE CAN ENFORCE STATE LAW. I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD RIGHT NOW, BUT JUST IN GENERAL, LIKE, IS THIS A BIG ENOUGH PROBLEM THAT IF WE DO THIS, IT'LL GIVE YOU MORE, YOU KNOW, BACKUP? OR IS THIS I'M CURIOUS WHAT BROUGHT IT ABOUT? I GUESS THAT'S ANOTHER QUESTION. IT WILL

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NO, IT'S AT THE PROPERTY LINE. IS THE MOST COMMON. GENERALLY, MUSIC? YES. OKAY. AND FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT, THE MOST COMMON COMPLAINT WE GET IS CONSTRUCTION NOISE AND VIOLATING THE CONSTRUCTION HOURS. OKAY. DRILLING RIGS ARE EXEMPT. I IMAGINE. YEAH. AND DRILLING RIGS HAVE THEIR OWN SPECIFIC REGULATIONS IN OUR GOSPEL ORDINANCE. YEAH. SO I'VE PERSONALLY BEEN EXPOSED TO A NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS. I GET PHONE CALLS AND THEN I GO CALL THE POLICE, BRING THEM OUT. ET CETERA. AND IT'S SOMETHING WHERE THE POLICE DON'T HAVE ALL THE TOOLS THAT THEY NEED, ESPECIALLY IN HARVEST. AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BECAUSE THE ETJ AND AS THE TOWN HAS GOTTEN MORE DENSE, I MEAN, SOME PEOPLE YOU CAN PRACTICALLY REACH OUT YOUR WINDOW AND HAND SOMETHING TO YOUR NEIGHBOR. SO THIS IS EVERYTHING THE COUNCIL HAS BEEN DOING IN THIS TERM HAS BEEN AT PUBLIC ENJOYMENT, QUALITY OF LIFE. AND THIS FALLS INTO THAT CATEGORY IN MY OPINION. SO THIS IS HOW DO WE MAKE OUR RESIDENTS BE ABLE TO SLEEP BETTER AND ENJOY LIFE MORE. SO THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT THIS FORWARD. AND ANY OTHER COMMENTS WE WILL ALSO IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, AS YOU MENTIONED, THERE'S SOME LAW STUFF THAT'S CHANGED. WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THIS IN EXECUTIVE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR POINTS I SHOULD ASK IF ANYBODY THE TIME CHANGES THAT WERE PRESENTED ON SIMILAR FORT WORTH, I THINK 11 P.M. ON WEEKNIGHTS IS PRETTY DARN LATE FOR ALL THE KIDS AND FAMILIES WE HAVE OF SCHOOL CHILDREN. 10:00 MAKES A LOT MORE SENSE TO ME. SO I AGREE WITH THAT. WOULD THERE BE ANY SOME OF OUR CURRENT REGULATIONS INCLUDE 11 P.M. IT'S THE FORT WORTH ONES THAT ARE TEN, SO YOU'D LIKE YOU'D LIKE TO SEE TEN. LINE THEM UP WITH TEN. WOULD THERE BE ANY EXCEPTIONS FOR HOLIDAYS? NEW YEAR'S SPECIFICALLY? YEAH, WE COULD ADD AN EXCEPTION TO YOU. THERE IS A CURRENT FOR CHRISTMAS LIGHTS, AND I THINK MOST OF THOSE, YOU KNOW, THEY SEEM BRIGHT, BUT THEY WHEN YOU ACTUALLY MEASURE THE INTENSITY OF THEM AT THE PROPERTY LINE, SPECIAL EVENTS WOULD BE COULD BE EXEMPT AS WELL. SO THERE'S JUST GIVE US GUIDANCE ON ON WHICH DIRECTION YOU'D LIKE TO GO AND WE'LL, WE'LL COME UP WITH SOME. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE OUR RESIDENTS UNDERSTAND THAT WE WANT THEM TO HAVE A GOOD TIME STILL, AND I DON'T MY PERSONAL OPINION IS SOMETHING LIKE A NEW YEAR'S EVE.

THEY'RE OUTSIDE, THEY'RE ENJOYING MUSIC. IT'S I THINK THEY OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT TO AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME. WELL, SOMETHING I THOUGHT OF THE OTHER DAY IS WE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LARGE COMMUNITY OF FOLKS FROM INDIA, SO WE CAN'T JUST TAKE IN THE TRADITIONAL HOLIDAYS. THEY HAVE SEPARATE HOLIDAYS THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO THEM THAT WE DO NEED TO THINK ABOUT TO A CERTAIN DEGREE. LIKE I KNOW THAT BECAUSE NEIGHBORS JUST CELEBRATED THE SO CELEBRATION OF LIGHTS OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE. YES. SO JUST SOMETHING THAT WE GOT TO THINK ABOUT IS ONE OF THE IDEAS THAT LIKE COMMUNITY EVENTS THAT ARE FOR ANY HOLIDAY, DON'T EXTEND LATE INTO THE NIGHT AND KEEP OTHER NEIGHBORS UP THAT AREN'T CELEBRATING. IT IS THAT KIND OF PART OF THIS. I WAS JUST TALKING MORE. IF WE SET IT AT TEN, WHICH IS FINE DURING THE WEEK, I'M FINE WITH THAT. YOU KNOW? BUT ON CERTAIN HOLIDAYS, OBVIOUSLY, I WOULD THINK MAYBE A LITTLE BIT LONGER BECAUSE THE BALL DON'T DROP TILL MIDNIGHT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE HAVE OUTSIDE TVS, OUTSIDE PATIOS AND NICE WEATHER. YOU TELL US. YEAH. NO, I APPRECIATE LOOKING AT THIS FOR QUALITY OF LIFE. JUST KIND OF EVERYDAY QUALITY OF LIFE WITHOUT TAKING AWAY THE CELEBRATIONS AND THE FUN PART OF IT. BUT MYSELF, LIVING IN A MORE DENSE COMMUNITY IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT I THINK NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT. ALL RIGHT. I THINK 10:00 IS A PRETTY GOOD ONE. I WAS I WAS KIND OF

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BUT AND IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE SAYING EVERYONE SHUT UP AT 10:00. WHAT THEY'RE SAYING IS THAT IF SOME IF SOMETHING IS GOING OVER THEN AND SOMEBODY MAKES A COMPLAINT, THEN THEY COME OUT AND GIVE THEM A WARNING. SO WE'RE NOT AND WE HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO. BUT IT GIVES THE POLICE SOMETHING TO SAY. WELL, I WOULD REALLY LOVE CHIEF CRAWFORD'S INPUT ON THIS AS WELL TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER WE DECIDE IS ENFORCEABLE AND MAKES SENSE TO THEM WHO WILL BE ANSWERING THE CALLS. WE'VE OF COURSE, INVOLVED THE CHIEF, AND WE'RE THERE ARE SOME SOME OPERATIONAL ISSUES. WE MAY NEED TO HIRE MORE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS AND HAVE THEM WORK OVERNIGHT. SO WE'RE WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS AND HOW THIS AFFECTS OPERATIONS. PART OF THIS IS LIKE WITH MOST COMPLAINTS I MEAN MOST NUISANCE IS COMPLAINT BASED. SO PART OF THIS IS GIVING THE POLICE TOOLS SO THEY CAN ACTUALLY AFFECT CHANGE AND ENFORCE THESE. SO THERE'S THAT'S KIND OF ONE LEVEL WE'RE NOT GOING TO RUN THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOODS WITH AN AUDIOMETER MEASURING EVERYBODY. IT'S GOING TO BE FOR THE FOR THE CASES THAT ARE EGREGIOUS. AND SO AND FOR THOSE CASES GIVE GIVE THOSE POLICE OFFICERS THE ABILITY AND THE DISCRETION TO ENFORCE THOSE. AND SO THAT'S USUALLY HOW THESE THINGS WORK. AND THAT'S THE WAY WE EXPECT IT TO WORK. MOVING FORWARD. AND LIKE I SAID EARLIER, MOST PEOPLE ARE VERY COMPLIANT WITH THAT. I DIDN'T REALIZE IT WAS THAT LOUD. SO WHAT COMMENTS CAN YOU JUST TURN IT ON A LITTLE BIT? THEY USUALLY DO COMPLY. ANOTHER GOAL THAT WE'VE HAD IS COMPLIANCE, NOT NECESSARILY, YOU KNOW, ENFORCEMENT. I MEAN ENFORCEMENT IS THE FIRST IS PART OF IT. AND IF THEY DON'T COMPLY, OBVIOUSLY WE'LL ISSUE CITATIONS. BUT WE'RE WE WANT PEOPLE TO COMPLY IS OUR MAIN GOAL. ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL IS EVERYBODY KIND OF SIMPLE ON 10:00. JUST SO STAFF STARTS LOOKING AT STUFF THEY HAVE DIRECTION. DREW'S YOUR DIRECTION THAT YOU NEED FROM US. WE'LL START CRAFTING THIS. WE MAY NOT HAVE A FULLY FORMED OR WE MAY HAVE A DRAFT BEFORE BEFORE YOU. SO I SUSPECT IT'S GOING TO BE AN ITERATIVE PROCESS WHERE WE JUST THREW THIS AT YOU. WE'RE STILL LEARNING, AND WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T DO. SO YES, WE'LL WE'LL PROBABLY BRING THIS BACK A NUMBER OF TIMES. YEAH. THIS IS AN ITEM THAT JUST JUMP AND RUSH AND DO IT. LET'S LET'S TRY TO DO IT RIGHT. THERE'S ALWAYS UNFORESEEN CONSEQUENCES TO ANY ANY LEGISLATION, BUT NOT DOING A KNEE JERK REACTION. AND DOING AN ITERATIVE PROCESS IS MUCH BETTER FOR THE PEOPLE. WELL, ONE OF THE THOUGHTS THAT, AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF WE CAN DO THIS, BUT JUST A THOUGHT. BUT IF YOU SEND OUT AN OFFICER OR A CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, WHOEVER ORDINANCE COMPLIANCE EVERY SINGLE TIME A COMPLAINT COMES IN AND THEY MAY ADHERE TO THE WARNING. BUT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU'RE SENDING SOMEBODY OUT TO THE SAME SITE TEN, 15 TIMES A YEAR? IF THERE'S A STRIKE? IT'S NOT A WARNING PER INCIDENT. IT'S A WARNING PER LOCATION. AWESOME. THAT'S WHAT I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT. I WOULD ASK THAT IN THE RESEARCH PROCESS THAT IF WE'RE LOOKING AT COPYING OR, YOU KNOW, BASING WHAT WE'RE DOING ON OTHER TOWNS THAT WE SEE WHAT ISSUES THEY'VE HAD THAT KIND OF HOLIDAY, YOU KNOW, WHAT? WHAT HAVE THEY BUMPED INTO? WHAT WOULD THEY DO DIFFERENTLY? I'D LIKE TO HAVE THAT CONTEXT, TOO. OKAY. CAN I ALSO ADD THAT I'D LIKE TO KNOW IF YOU MENTIONED POSSIBLY HAVING TO HIRE MORE POSITIONS. I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THAT COST WOULD BE, AND IF THAT'S EVEN WORTH IT. OKAY. I'M NOT LOOKING TO HIRE ANYBODY ELSE ON THIS BECAUSE AS YOU SAID, IT'S COMPLAINT DRIVEN. SO. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOOD. THANK YOU COUNSEL FOR ENTERTAINING THAT.

[3. PUBLIC INPUT]

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THAT'S WHAT HOA'S ARE FOR. THEY'RE ALL THE HIGH DENSITY AREAS HAVE HOA'S. THAT'S I'M ASSUMING THAT'S WHERE MOST OF THE COMPLAINTS COME FROM, BECAUSE THE HOUSES ARE REAL CLOSE TOGETHER. SOMEBODY MAKES A BUNCH OF NOISE, THE NEIGHBOR IS GOING TO HEAR IT BECAUSE THEY'RE SO CLOSE. YOU KNOW, I'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE YOU PUT THAT OFF ON THEM, BECAUSE WE SURE DON'T NEED MORE CODE ENFORCEMENT AND WE DON'T NEED TO HIRE MORE OFFICERS JUST TO GO TELL PEOPLE THEY HAVE TO TURN THEIR MUSIC DOWN OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, AND IT'D BE AN ENFORCEMENT NIGHTMARE, I THINK, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S DOWN AROUND 60DB. THAT'S REAL QUIET. I THINK IF YOU SAW IN THEIR MOTORCYCLES IT SAYS 100, YOU KNOW, SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO LET MOTORCYCLES DRIVE THROUGH TOWN.

THAT SO AND YOU KNOW, MORE PEOPLE IT'S MORE TAXES. THAT'S JUST A BIG NO. AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO SERIOUSLY CONSIDER JUST LEAVING THAT. AND I THINK THE POLICE WOULDN'T EVEN WANT IT BECAUSE IT'S JUST MORE HEADACHE FOR THEM. YOU KNOW, IF THEY CAN'T ENFORCE ANYTHING IN THE OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS, THEN THEY DON'T HAVE TO RESPOND TO THOSE CALLS. IT'S LESS LESS OF A PROBLEM FOR THEM. SO I'D APPRECIATE YOU KEEPING THE BUREAUCRACY TO A MINIMUM. THANK.

THANK YOU. JOEL. NEXT, I HAVE MATT MACLEOD. MACLEOD. COME ON UP, MATT. SO IT SEEMS LIKE SOME OF THE THUNDER WAS STOLEN FROM ME, BUT I ACTUALLY HAVE A DIFFERENT VIEWPOINT. I HAPPEN TO MOVE. SORRY. I'M MACLEOD, 2216, MEANDER WAY. I HAPPEN TO MOVE TO THIS COMMUNITY 90 DAYS AGO, AND MY HOUSE NOW BACKS UP TO THE HILLTOP TRUCK YARD. AND WHEN WE START AND WHEN WE AND WHEN WE MOVED HERE, WHEN WE BROKE GROUND 15 MONTHS AGO, THE TRUCK YARD WAS JUST A DIRT ROAD OR JUST A DIRT PAD WITH A FEW PLACES ON IT. SIR, PLEASE ADDRESS THE COUNCIL. AND NOW. AND NOW THERE'S A BAR WITH A CONCERT VENUE IN ESSENCE, IN MY BACK YARD. I HAPPEN TO BE ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT COMPLAIN A LOT. DENTON COUNTY CAN'T DO ANYTHING. NORTH LAKE POLICE DEPARTMENT CAME OUT LAST SATURDAY FOR AN ISSUE. THEY DID GO OVER THERE AND ASKED NICELY. THEY TURNED DOWN THE MUSIC, BUT IN ESSENCE SAID THERE'S NOTHING THEY CAN DO. CAN'T COUNTY CAN'T DO ANYTHING NORTH, THEY CAN'T DO ANYTHING. THERE'S NO RECOURSE FOR THEM WHATSOEVER. WE'VE REACHED OUT TO THEM ON INSTAGRAM. THEY SAID, OH, WE'LL TAKE CARE OF IT. TWO WEEKS LATER, ALLOWED AGAIN. AND THEY PRETTY MUCH TOLD US THERE'S NOT MUCH WE'RE GOING TO DO ABOUT IT.

WE'RE ABIDING BY THE LAWS THAT WE SEE FIT. SO I MEAN, YOU SAY 10:00 MIGHT BE LATE WHEN MY KIDS GO TO BED AT EIGHT AND IT'S THE BASS. MORE THAN ANYTHING, THE BASS DOESN'T REGISTER ON YOUR DECIBEL METER. SO I AGREE IT SHOULDN'T BE CRAZY. IT SHOULDN'T BE AT AN UNREASONABLE LIMIT. BUT THE BASS IS REALLY WHAT SHAKES MY HOUSE AND AGAIN, NO CARE WHATSOEVER FROM PEOPLE THAT ARE LESS THAN 50FT BEHIND MY HOUSE THAT WASN'T THERE WHEN I BOUGHT THE HOUSE. MAY I ASK YOU REAL QUICK? SURE. YOU SAID WHAT? WHAT TIME IS THIS GOING ON TILL? JUST SO COUNCIL HAS A REFERENCE. SO THEY DO TYPICALLY STOP AT ABOUT 10:00. BUT AGAIN MY KIDS GO TO BED 8 OR 9. AND IT'S PRETTY HARD TO GET YOUR CHILD TO FALL ASLEEP WHEN THEIR THE WINDOW IS SHAKING IN THEIR ROOM AND THEIR WINDOWS IN THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE. IT'S NOT EVEN AS IF THEY'RE IN THE BACK OF THE HOUSE NEAR THE NEAR THE SOUND. I CAN'T ENJOY MY BACKYARD WHATSOEVER. I CAN'T HAVE FRIENDS OVER AT ALL BECAUSE I'VE GOT A CONCERT VENUE, MY BACKYARD, THAT MIGHT HAVE 10 OR 15 PEOPLE THERE MAYBE. AND I CAN'T IMAGINE ANYONE THAT GOES THERE WOULD ENJOY EATING THERE. AT ALL DUE TO THE LOUD MUSIC.

IT'D BE. IT'D BE UNBEARABLE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR. YEAH, MY KIDS GO TO BED AT 8:00 AS WELL,

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AND THAT WHAT THAT DOES, THEREFORE IS IT ALLOWS THE DCAD TO HAVE A HIGHER ASSESSMENT OF YOUR OF YOUR HOUSE AND NORTHLAKE TO GET MORE TAXES FROM IT. SO IT'S REALLY AN INVASION OF YOUR PRIVACY BY BEING ABLE TO LOOK AT YOUR HOUSE PLANS AT THE CITY OF NORTHLAKE. AND I THINK THAT MAYBE A WAY AROUND THAT WOULD BE THAT IF YOU WOULD LET US THE CITIZENS WHO MIGHT BE BUILDING HOMES, CONTRACT DIRECTLY WITH WHOEVER IT IS THAT YOU ALL HAVE DOING THE INSPECTIONS. IF WE COULD CONTRACT WITH THEM DIRECTLY. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS LEGAL OR NOT, BUT I MEAN, IF IT'S ALLOWED LEGALLY. BUT FOR THOSE OF US THAT DON'T WANT OUR HOUSE PLANS VIEWED BY ANYBODY THAT THEY CAN CONTRACT DIRECTLY WITH THE SECONDS, OKAY, WITH THE SUB THAT YOU ALL USE FOR THAT.

THAT'S IT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. ANYBODY ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TONIGHT? HELLO, SIR. YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, DANIEL MARTINEZ, P.O. BOX 325. AND JUSTIN, I'M DETECTIVE MARTINEZ. I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE NORTH LAKE POLICE ASSOCIATION. BACK THERE IN THE BACK IS SERGEANT HAYMAN, WHO SERVES AS THE VICE PRESIDENT AND SERGEANT WILLIAMS, WHO SERVES AS THE TREASURER. THE NORTH LAKE POLICE ASSOCIATION WOULD LIKE TO THANK CHIEF CRAWFORD DREW CORN AND THE TOWN COUNCIL FOR THEIR LEADERSHIP AND SUPPORT. THIS YEAR. NORTH LAKE IS IN A VERY UNIQUE POSITION. NOT ONLY ARE WE TASKED WITH KEEPING UP WITH NORMAL EMPLOYEE ATTRITION, WE ARE ALSO TASKED WITH ADDRESSING THE CHALLENGES CAUSED BY THE EXPLOSIVE GROWTH THE TOWN IS EXPERIENCING. THE NEW STAFF THAT WAS RECOGNIZED BEFORE YOU TONIGHT ARE HERE BECAUSE OF THE COMBINED TEAMWORK OF TOWN LEADERSHIP AND THE RECRUITMENT EFFORTS OF SEVERAL OF OUR MEMBERS IN THE UPCOMING YEAR, WE HOPE TO CONTINUE THE POSITIVE RELATIONSHIP AND DIALOG THAT WE HAVE EXPERIENCED WITH CHIEF DREW AND MAYOR MONTINI, SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO ADDRESS THE CHALLENGES THAT LIE AHEAD. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE THIS EVENING? SEEING NONE, WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT AT 6:49 P.M. AND NEXT WE HAVE CONSENT ITEMS. WE HAVE

[4. CONSENT ITEMS]

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I HAVE A COMMENT. HOLD ON. OKAY. SINCE THE VOTES IN PROGRESS, JUST HOLD ON FOR A SECOND.

YES. THERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY 7 TO 0. SO THE COMMENT THAT I HAD IS JUST A NOTE FOR ANYBODY. THAT'S WATCHING OR LISTENING, BECAUSE BEFORE I UNDERSTOOD HOW THIS WORKED, I HAD A TENDENCY TO GET FRUSTRATED ABOUT STUFF THAT SEEMED LIKE, YOU KNOW, AN IMPORTANT INVESTMENT THAT WAS JUST APPROVED PRETTY QUICKLY. AND THAT WENT. SO I FELT LIKE CLARIFYING BECAUSE THIS WAS A QUESTION MY OWN HUSBAND ASKED ME. THE THINGS THAT ARE IN OUR CONSENT ITEMS ON THIS AGENDA ARE THINGS THAT WE'VE ALREADY THAT THAT COUNCIL HAS ALREADY APPROVED THE EXPENSE FOR. AND STAFF HAS WORKED REALLY HARD ON OUR BUDGET. SO WE'RE NOT THESE AREN'T NEW THINGS. IT'S JUST APPROVING THINGS THAT WE'VE ALREADY PREVIOUSLY ACCOUNTED FOR. I JUST FELT LIKE THAT WAS WORTH SAYING. YEAH. WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO SAY IS THAT THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED THROUGH BUDGETARY PROCESSES. THIS IS JUST THE ACTUAL PURCHASE OF THE ITEM THAT'S BUDGETED FOR EXACTLY. ALREADY. ANYTHING, ANYTIME SOMETHING'S OUT OF OUT OF BUDGET CYCLE OR OUT OF PLANNED BUDGET, IT GETS BROUGHT FORWARD AS A SPECIAL ITEM FOR DISCUSSION. AND ALSO NOTHING IS IN CONSENT THAT IS ON BRIEFING ITEMS. THAT'S WHY WE DO THE BRIEFINGS AHEAD OF TIME, SO THAT PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON YET, THEY HAVE A CHANCE TO WATCH THE RECORDED MEETING AFTERWARDS. THEY CAN LOOK THROUGH ALL THE CONTENT THAT IS PRESENTED, GENERATE QUESTIONS BEFORE ANYTHING IS VOTED UPON. OKAY, WITH THAT, WE WILL MOVE TO

[5.A. Consider approval of a Resolution of the Town of Northlake, Texas, casting Northlake's votes for a member or members of the Board of Directors of the Denton Central Appraisal District]

[5.A. VOTE]

[5.B. Consider adoption of an Ordinance of the Town of Northlake, Texas, providing for the annexation of approximately 57.325 acres of land situated in the S. Park Survey Abstract No. 1005, the W. Harmonson Survey, Abstract No. 642, and the H. Anderson Survey, Abstract No. 25, generally located on the southeast corner of Harmonson Road and McPherson Drive contiguous to the current town limits of Northlake, Texas, in the Town’s exclusive extraterritorial jurisdiction. Case # ANX-24-004]

AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING. THIS IS A LOOK AT THE PROPERTY. IT'S ABOUT 57 ACRES PLANNED FOR WAREHOUSES, JUST OVER 900,000FTS ON IT. AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY JUST STARTING WORK RIGHT NOW. SO BEFORE ACTING ON THE ANNEXATION, YOU NEED TO HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING. ANY QUESTIONS FOR NATHAN? HAVE THERE BEEN ANY CHANGES SINCE THE LAST BRIEFING? WE HAD? NO, THIS IS THERE HAVE

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[5.B. VOTE]

ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY, 7 TO 0. WELCOME TO THE TOWN OF NORTH LAKE. NEXT

[6. EXECUTIVE SESSION]

[7. RECONVENE INTO OPEN SESSION]