Jul 24, 2025 Town Council

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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SO. GOOD EVENING. IT IS 5:30 P.M. ON JULY 24TH. I WANT TO CALL THE COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER. WE HAVE ALL COUNCILORS PRESENT. I'D LIKE TO INVITE. I'M SORRY. I DID NOT SEE WHO WE HAD TONIGHT FOR PASTOR. WOULD YOU COME UP FOR THE INVOCATION? SIR, PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF TO OUR COMMUNITY. PLEASE. IT'D BE GREAT. MY NAME IS BRIAN TERHUNE. I'M THE PASTOR AT THE WELL CHURCH. I'M ALSO THE CHAPLAIN FOR THE NORTH LAKE POLICE DEPARTMENT. AND LET'S PRAY.

JESUS, WE JUST THANK YOU FOR THIS TIME. WE THANK YOU THAT WE CAN GET BUSY AT THE GOVERNANCE OF A CITY. LORD, PROVIDE WISDOM, PROVIDE CLARITY, AS YOU WERE THE ULTIMATE GUIDE IN THE PLAN MAKER. WE MAKE ALL OUR PLANS. LORD, LET US JUST HAVE GUIDANCE FROM YOU AS WE DO THESE THINGS.

FATHER, AS WE CARRY OUT THE ORDINANCE OF THE CITY AND THE PLANNING OF IT, LORD, AND LET IT BE GLORIFYING TO YOU, AND JUST BLESS THIS TIME. LET EVERYBODY ENJOY THIS TIME. LET PEACE AND PATIENCE REIGN SUPREME HERE. LORD, WE LOVE YOU. IN JESUS NAME WE PRAY. AMEN. AMEN. THANK YOU.

LET'S STAND FOR OUR PLEDGES, PLEASE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONORED AS WELL. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. ALL RIGHT. BEFORE WE GET STARTED WITH ANNOUNCEMENTS ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT, I HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT FOR EVERYONE HERE. IN THE US CONGRESS BILL, H.R. 3095, WHICH WAS A BILL DESIGNATING OR DIRECTING THE US POSTAL OFFICE, US POST OFFICE, TO DESIGNATE A SINGLE UNIQUE ZIP CODE FOR CERTAIN COMMUNITIES, ONE OF THEM BEING NORTHLAKE, DID PASS THE HOUSE BY 278 TO 121. IT MOVES ON TO US SENATE FOR A VOTE. AND THEN HOPEFULLY, IF PRESIDENT TRUMP'S DESK, WE HAVE PRETTY GOOD SUPPORT IN TEXAS. A COUPLE REPS IN HOUSTON, ONE IN DALLAS, TWO IN AUSTIN AND ONE OTHER THAT VOTED AGAINST THIS PROPOSITION, BUT VERY HAPPY THAT IT PASSED IN A BIPARTISAN MANNER AND VERY, VERY PROUD OF OUR CONGRESSMAN, MR. GILL, FOR PUSHING THIS FORWARD. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A BRIEFING. AND JUST BRIEFLY, WE MAY NEED AN EXTRA COUNCIL MEETING IN AUGUST. SO IF YOU'D LOOK AHEAD IN YOUR CALENDARS. SO 14TH AND THE 28TH WERE OUR NORMAL MEETINGS. BUT IN TALKING WITH OUR ATTORNEY AND TAX OFFICE AND JOHN AND OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GOING TO NEED A SPECIAL TOWN COUNCIL MEETING ON THE 21ST. WE'LL NOTICE THAT AND WE'LL HAVE PLENTY OF TIME. WE'LL GET THE PACKETS OUT, OF COURSE, BUT JUST SO YOU CAN PLAN AHEAD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. FIRST

[2.A. Briefing - Denton County Bond Program and Texas Department of Transportation Road Projects Update]

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JUSTIN'S SELECTED THE 12TH STREET ALIGNMENT, AND THEN ONCE THAT WAS SELECTED, IT'S WORKED WITH TXDOT AND JUSTIN TO MAXIMIZE THE DESIGN SUCH THAT WE WOULD TAKE THE PROPERTY ON THE SOUTHERN PART OF THAT ROADWAY, BECAUSE WE FOUND THAT PEOPLE THAT ARE THAT ARE IMPACTED PARTIALLY ARE USUALLY MORE UPSET THAN PEOPLE THAT ARE FULLY TAKEN. SO WE DECIDED TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE ONE SIDE OF THE STREET AND THEN THAT NORTHERN PART OF THE 12TH STREET WOULD BE TIED INTO 407 WITH A BACKAGE ROAD, SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO BACK IN OR DRIVE IN STRAIGHT OFF 407. AND THEN BECAUSE OF THE TIMING ON THE PROJECT, WE, THE STATE ADVANCED THE ACQUISITION OF THOSE HOMES BECAUSE OF THEIR THEIR HARDSHIP. SO THIS IS THE ALIGNMENT THAT IS SET. WE ARE CLEARING IT. WE ARE PLAN ON HAVING IT DONE BY JUNE OF 2026 OF THE OF NEXT YEAR. AND CONCURRENT WITH THAT, IF WE WORK OUT OUR ISSUES WITH JUSTIN ON FIRE MARSHAL STUFF, OUR STUFF I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT, WE'RE GOING TO START ON THE RED ALIGNMENT WITH THE NEAR LOCAL WITH THEM TO DO THE PSA. I'M GOING TO ASSUME YOU'RE GOING TO ASK QUESTIONS WHEN YOU WANT THEM, RIGHT? OKAY. SO THE NEXT PROJECT IS THE 407 I DON'T KNOW, HAS ANYBODY BEEN INTERESTED IN THIS PROJECT LATELY? THERE'S BEEN NO INTEREST IN THAT. I'VE BEEN OUT OF TOWN, SO I MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW. SO THIS IS THE INFAMOUS 407 PROJECT BREAKOUT FROM GATEWAY TO CLEVELAND.

GIBBS. WHEN ARGYLE AND NORTHLAKE AND HILLWOOD CAME TO THE COUNTY BACK IN, I'D SAY EARLY 22, MID 22, THEY ASKED US, THE COUNTY AND THE TXDOT TO LOOK AT DOING A BREAKOUT PROJECT ON THE 407 PROJECT THAT I JUST SHOWED YOU PREVIOUSLY. WE ANTICIPATED AT THAT TIME FOR THE PROJECT TO BE ABOUT $14 MILLION. IF YOU LOOK ON YOUR REPORT RIGHT NOW, IT'S A LITTLE NORTH OF 40 MILLION. THE COUNTY AGREED TO FUND THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE PROJECT. AND THEN SUBSEQUENT TO THOSE MEETINGS, WE FOUND THAT TEXDOT DID NOT HAVE A BUDGET FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL CLEARANCE FOR THE BREAKOUT OR THE PSA. SO THE COUNTY WENT AHEAD AND PICKED UP. IT WAS CIVIL ASSOCIATES AT THE TIME. THEY CHANGED THEIR NAME TO BARTLETT, AND WEST PICKED THEM UP TO DO THE BREAKOUT PROJECT.

AND TO DATE, WE SPENT A LITTLE OVER $5 MILLION DOING THE ENVIRONMENTAL CLEARANCE AND THE PSA AND THE UTILITY RELOCATION WORK WITH TEXT ON ON THAT PROJECT. LOTS BEEN SAID, LOTS BEEN GOING ON. THE INTENT WAS TO HAVE THIS PROJECT READY TO BE READY TO LET, WHICH MEANS THE UTILITIES ARE CLEARED BY SEPTEMBER OF THIS YEAR. BUT THAT THAT ASSUMED A CERTAIN TIME FRAME ON THE UTILITY RELOCATIONS AND THE RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION THAT DIDN'T COME TO BEAR. AND QUITE FRANKLY. I'VE BEEN DOING THIS A LONG TIME. NO PROJECT SURVIVES THE FIRST SHOT. RIGHT.

YOU GOT A SCHEDULE YOU WANT TO TRY TO DO, AND YOU TRY TO YOU MAKE THAT SCHEDULE, BUT SOMETHING ALWAYS COMES UP. AND SO THERE WAS RIGHT OF WAY ISSUES THAT WE HAD TO ADDRESS THAT PUSHED OUR TIMELINE FROM ABOUT THREE MONTHS TO ABOUT 15 MONTHS. THAT PUSHED THE UTILITY RELOCATIONS OUT. AND I GUESS THE POINT I'D MAKE IS, IS THAT IF A GOVERNMENT HAS THE POWER TO EXPEDITE A PROJECT WITHOUT YOUR PARTICIPATION AND THEY HAVE THE POWER TO TAKE STUFF FROM YOU THAT YOU PROBABLY DON'T WANT THEM TO HAVE. SO IT WAS APPROPRIATE THAT WE TOOK THE TIME TO DO WHAT WE HAD TO DO WITH THE RIGHT OF WAY PARCELS TO GET THAT DONE. WE DON'T HAVE THE STATE OR THE COUNTY DOESN'T HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER THE UTILITY PROVIDERS IN THAT CORRIDOR. THEY

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UPPER TRINITY. AND WE GET WATER FROM A LOT OF WATER FROM. SO BE NICE. YES, SIR. AS NICE AS I CAN BE. SO WE ARE THEY THEY KEEPS WE THEY KEEP SAYING, YEAH, WE'LL WORK WITH YOU. AND THEN WHEN WE TELL COSERV TO GO DO SOMETHING, THEY GIVE OUR THOSE UTILITY PROVIDERS CEASE AND DESIST LETTERS. SO WE'RE, WE'RE HAVING A, WE'RE HAVING A CONVERSATION MONTHLY WITH THEM. DREW'S OFFERED TO BE A PEACEMAKER. YEAH. BETWEEN ME AND THEM WE'LL SEE HOW THAT GOES. BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY DEALING WITH IS THAT WE NOW HAVE TO GET 4 OR 5 POLES BACK ACROSS ON THE NORTHERN SIDE, AND THEY'RE ONE OFFS. AND OPPORTUNITY IS. BEING NORMAL FOR THEM. SO THAT THAT THAT WE'RE IT SAYS SEPTEMBER 2025 PLANS ARE DONE. THE PLANS ARE NOT A PROBLEM. WE MOVED UP THE TIME. THE MAYOR HAS BEEN VERY AGGRESSIVE WITH HELPING THESE UTILITY COMPANIES KNOW THE SERIOUSNESS OF THIS PROJECT. SO WE WERE IT WAS LAST MONTH WE HAD A SEPTEMBER A 26. IT'S NOW AUGUST. IT'S FULLY FUNDED BY THE COUNTY USING REGIONAL TOLL REVENUE FUNDS, WHICH ARE NOT TOLL REVENUE FUNDS. THAT'S A IT'S A MISNOMER, BUT THEY'RE COUNTY FUNDS AND WE'RE STILL COMMITTED TO THE PROJECT, ALTHOUGH IT'S GONE FROM 14 MILLION TO 40. WE ARE WORKING WITH TXDOT TO BECAUSE OF THE SOME ISSUES IN AUSTIN ABOUT THE LETTING ISSUES, WE'RE GOING TO CONVERT OUR CATEGORIES FROM THE CATEGORIES THAT ARE IN THE HIGHWAY. UTP UNIFIED TRANSPORTATION PLAN TO WHAT'S CALLED CATEGORY THREE. AND THE REASON THAT'S IMPORTANT IS BECAUSE CATEGORY THREE ARE LOCAL FUNDS TO, IN THE STATE'S EYES, AND A LOCAL FUNDED PROJECT DOESN'T COUNT AGAINST THEIR LEADING CAP. AND RIGHT NOW THEY'RE HOLDING US TO THAT LEADING CAP BECAUSE WE'RE IN CATEGORY TEN, WHICH IS THE REGIONAL TOLL REVENUE FUNDS. BUT REGIONAL TOLL REVENUE FUNDS ARE LOCAL FUNDS. SO WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO FIGHT THAT BATTLE SO THAT AS WE MOVE THIS AND WE WILL MOVE THAT DATE CLOSER EVERY MONTH, WE'RE GOING TO BE STEPPING ON SOMEBODY'S NECK TO GET IT MOVING. WHEN WE GET THE PROJECT WHERE IT'S READY TO LET THE FUNDS ARE ALREADY THERE, WE JUST NEED TO DO A TIP MOD TO SWITCH THE CATEGORY SO THAT WE CAN GET HEADQUARTERS TO SEE THIS AS A LOCAL PROJECT. TEXTILE STILL BUILD IT. IT'S JUST USING OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY SO IT DOESN'T COUNT AGAINST THEIR. THEIR THEIR CAT. RIGHT. SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE ON THAT. I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ON IT. REALLY. YEAH.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU YOU PROBABLY DON'T HAVE IT AND I DON'T SEE IT IN HERE LIKE THE MORE DETAILED OF THE SIX LANES AND HOW THAT LAYS OUT. BECAUSE AND I REMEMBER OVER THE PAST WHAT TWO YEARS IS THIS WENT THROUGH P AND Z. AND WE WENT THROUGH HOW THAT LAID OUT. AND EVEN ON THE DATE HERE IT SHOWS ENVIRONMENTAL CLEARANCE OF 2023. RIGHT OF, YOU KNOW, RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION 2024. YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THIS HAS BEEN IN PROCESS FOR MANY YEARS, BUT JUST EVEN LAST YEAR, THE ELECTRICAL LINES ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THIS WERE JUST REPLACED. AND PUT WHERE THIS NEW ROAD IS GOING TO GO. AND SO I MEAN IT'S NOT YOUR CONTROL, BUT PARTS OF THIS SEEMS A LITTLE CRAZY OF HOW HOW THIS THE TIMING OF ALL THIS GOES AND WHAT WE CAN DO. I'M NOT SURE IF THERE'S PARTS OF THIS THAT CAN BE STARTED. AND THAT'S WHERE LIKE IT'S, YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN WE DO TO GET STARTED BECAUSE IT'S WAITING FOR IT TO START THEN THEN YOU'VE GOT A DIFFERENT STARTING DATE AND THEN OKAY, SO THERE'S ACTUALLY 3 OR 4 THINGS GOING ON. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE $212 MILLION AND IT'S IN THE REPORT. I'LL GET TO IT IN A SECOND TO DO THE FRONTAGE ROADS ON 35 W FROM 407 NORTH TO 2449, WHICH INCLUDES BLOWING THAT WHOLE INTERCHANGE OUT AND HAVING TEN LANES GOING UNDERNEATH. YOU'D HAVE THE THREE THROUGH IN EACH DIRECTION FOR THE THROUGH LANES,

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AND REPRESENTATIVE PATTERSON MADE THE POINT THAT HE CAN HE GOT $400,000 FOR SOME MITIGATION, SOME ENVIRONMENTAL MITIGATION FOR FRISCO FROM THE TECH. AND HE GOT SOME MONEY FOR LIBRARIES AND ALL THIS STUFF FROM THE LEGISLATURE JUST BY PUTTING IN A PIECE OF LEGISLATION. THE ONLY AGENCY THAT REPRESENTATIVES ARE PROHIBITED BY LAW FROM EARMARKING FUNDS TO IN THE STATE OF TEXAS IS TEX DOT THEY CAN'T MAKE THEM DO ANYTHING. AND SO THE TEX DOT SPENDS ALL THEIR MONEY. SO WHEN YOU BUY A GALLON OF GAS $0.38 YOUR GAS TAX $0.20 IS YOUR STATE TAX, $0.18 IS YOUR FEDERAL. WE SEND ALL THAT $0.18 TO THE FEDERAL. FOR EVERY DOLLAR WE SEND TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, WE GET $0.77 BACK. BUT TO GET THAT $0.77, WE HAVE TO MATCH 20%. SO MOST OF WHAT THE STATE'S MONEY DOES IS MATCH GETTING BACK THEIR MONEY FROM THE FEDS. BUT IT COMES WITH A CRAP TON OF NO OFFENSE REGULATIONS. AND SO ALL THE THINGS THAT WE'RE HAVING TO DO, LIKE I SAY A HUNDRED TIMES AND IT'S CLICHE, BUT IT'S ACCURATE.

IF WE COULD VIOLATE YOUR PROPERTY RIGHTS, IGNORE THE ENVIRONMENT, AND NOT INCLUDE YOU IN THE PROCESS, WE COULD BUILD THESE ROADS TOMORROW, BUT YOU DON'T WANT YOUR GOVERNMENT BEING ABLE TO DO THAT. AND SO WE'VE MOVED THIS AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN. AND SO MY ARGUMENT IS GET THE MESSAGE OUT OF WHAT HAS BEEN DONE AND WHEN, WHEN YOU LOOK WHAT I GET FRUSTRATED ABOUT BECAUSE I BLEED WHATEVER BLOOD I HAVE IN ME FOR MY CLIENTS, WHEN OUR CLIENT, MY CLIENTS ARE DOING EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN AND IT'S HAPPENING, THINGS ARE HAPPENING OUTSIDE. THEIR ABILITY TO CONTROL. NOBODY ELSE IS REALLY HELPING IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE.

NORTH LAKE'S BEEN A GOOD TEAM PLAYER. JUSTIN'S BEEN A GOOD TEAM PLAYER ON THE OTHER STUFF.

ARGO'S BEEN A GOOD TEAM PLAYER, BUT ONLY THE COUNTY IS FUNDING THIS PROJECT. ALL THE ENGINEERING, ALL THE ENVIRONMENTAL, ALL THE CONSTRUCTION AND THE STATE'S JUST SAYING, HEY, KNOCK YOURSELF OUT. SO I DON'T KNOW WHO YOU CALL BECAUSE THE REALITY IS, UNTIL WE GET THOSE UTILITIES OUT OF THE WAY, WE CAN'T START THE PROJECT. SO AT THIS POINT, WOULD YOU SAY THAT THE COUNCIL HAS DONE WHAT WE CAN THE COUNTY HAS DONE TO THE EXTENT OF WHAT THEY CAN, AND THAT OUR STATE REPS ARE CONSISTENTLY INVOLVED IN DOING WHAT THEY CAN LIKE. IT SEEMS LIKE ALL THE PEOPLE THAT CAN PUT PRESSURE ARE PUTTING PRESSURE A LOT. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DON'T HAVE YOUR FAR MORE DIPLOMATIC THAN I WOULD BE. THE STATE REPS AND SENATORS CAN ONLY HARM US ON THIS PROCESS. THE TOWN CAME TO US AND SAID WE WILL, WE WILL PARTNER, AND WE HAD SOME ISSUES ON SOME ACCESS POINTS AND SOME RIGHT OF WAY STUFF THAT THEY THEY GAVE US SOME, SOME LEEWAY ON SOME OF THE SETBACKS. BUT IT'S THE COUNTY IS COVERING 100% OF THE CARRY ON THIS. SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO COMPLAIN JUST MAKE SURE YOU DON'T COMPLAIN ABOUT THE COUNTY BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONE ENTITY THAT'S DOING ANYTHING. I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER. THERE'S THE WE ARE I HAVE A MEETING WITH ON THIS EVERY ABOUT EVERY TWO WEEKS TO MAKE SURE THE MAYOR KEEPS SENDING US. WHY CAN'T THESE TWO ENTITIES, THESE UTILITY PROVIDERS, WHY CAN'T THEY MEET TOGETHER AT THE SAME TIME? WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE ONE OFFS? AND SO WE'RE STREAMLINING ALL THOSE THINGS AS POSSIBLE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. BUT WE'RE ASKING THEM TO DO A BREAKOUT JOB TOO. THAT'S THE OTHER THING. WE ARE ALSO MOVING ON 407 ULTIMATE RIGHT. AND THEY'VE GOT UTILITIES OUT THROUGH THE WHOLE ENTIRE CORRIDOR. AND SO TO HAVE THEM TO DO STOP AND JUST DO ONE LITTLE PIECE IS, IS A REAL PAIN FOR THEM TO HAVE TO DO, EXCEPT FOR THE OPPORTUNITY THEY SHOULD DO WHATEVER THEY'RE ASKED, FORTUNATELY, COSERV AND ATMOS HAVE BEEN EXTREMELY OPEN TO TALKING TO US AND WORKING WITH US. THEY'VE MET WITH MYSELF AND DREW AND STAFF, AND WE'VE HAD SOME REALLY GOOD PROGRESS. AS JOHN SAID, WE'VE ALREADY TAKEN A MONTH OFF OF THIS JUST THROUGH THOSE EFFORTS ALONE. COSERV IS THE NEXT BIG ONE WITH UHTRED, AND THAT ONE'S PROVING CHALLENGING FROM COSERV. BUT I SUGGESTED SOME STREAMLINING OPTIONS THERE, HE MENTIONED, AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO PROJECT MANAGE THIS DOWN. JUDGES AND COMMISSIONER EDMONDSON, THEY TOLD US, OKAY, WE'LL GIVE YOU THE 14, $15 MILLION. NOW THEY'RE GIVING US 40 MILLION. SO I CAN'T COMPLAIN ABOUT FIVE OVER FIVE. YES. PLUS THE ENGINEERING. SO IT STARTS TO ADD UP. LET ME SEE A BREAKOUT IN THAT PART THAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO. AND IT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH EACH OTHER IN THE SAMSUNG. NO, SIR. THEY WANTED TO BE DONE WITHOUT THEM. YES, SIR. THE ADJUSTMENT IS WAY BEHIND WHERE THEY HAVEN'T EVEN STARTED ON THE PSA YET. SO THEY'RE THEY'RE YEARS BEHIND RIGHT NOW. THEY'RE THEY'RE IN THE SAME BOX IN A COUPLE OF YEARS AS Y'ALL ARE NOW. THEY GOT BIG DEVELOPMENT THAT REQUIRES THAT RED PORTION BEING BUILT AND THEY DON'T HAVE THE DESIGN. IT'S CLEAR IT'LL BE CLEARED IN YOU KNOW, MID MID

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SO THEY'RE ALL INDEPENDENT PROJECTS. THEY'RE ALL SEPARATE. WHEN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE BREAKOUT OF THE BREAKOUT, HOW SOON CAN WE EXPECT TO SEE MOVEMENT AND PROGRESS ON THAT? IF WE GET TEX-DOT TO AGREE ON THE THINGS WE WANT TO DO RIGHT, AND THE COUNTY AGREES TO PAY FOR IT, IT ALL JUST IS A QUICK DRIVE DOWN AND DIRTY DESIGN. AND SO IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, BEFORE THE YEAR IS OUT. IT COULD BE THIS FALL. IT'S JUST AT THAT POINT IT'S LAYING ASPHALT AND MAKING SURE YOU DON'T HIT A UTILITY. I THINK. SO THAT EVEN JUST THAT LITTLE BIT, WHAT CAN WE DO TO HELP? BECAUSE THAT'S PART OF IT TO WHERE I MEAN, DRIVING IT EVERY DAY. AND, YOU KNOW, I SAY THAT TO ANYBODY HERE. IT'S A NIGHTMARE. AND IT'S I MEAN, THERE'S TEXAS GOING TO SAY YES, IF WE CAN SHOW THEM, WE CAN DO IT WITHOUT CAUSING ANY UTILITY IMPACTS. AND THE COUNTY IS PAYING FOR IT. SO I DON'T AND WE'RE GOING TO DESIGN IT. WE'LL JUST HAVE CIVIL ASSOCIATES DO A BREAKOUT FOR THE BREAKOUT. SO I WOULD SAY GETTING THE INFORMATION OUT TO YOUR PEOPLE THAT WE'RE TRYING AND THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO AN INTERIM OF THE INTERIM OF THE ULTIMATE TO TRY TO TRY TO GET IT FIXED. THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO MAKE A POST THAT SAYS WE'RE WORKING ON A BREAKOUT FOR THE BREAKOUT AND AN INTERIM FOR THE INTERIM OF THE ULTIMATE RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. SO I'M GOING TO KEEP GOING IF Y'ALL DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. IT GETS VERY CIVIL AFTER THIS.

OKAY. SO THE 1171 PROJECT WAS A PROJECT THAT WE, THE COUNTY PICKED UP AND THE TEX-DOT PICKED UP THE 407. WE PARTNERED. THEY PICKED ONE, WE PICKED ONE, AND WE'VE BEEN MOVING THIS FORWARD.

BUT RIGHT NOW THIS PROJECT IS ALTHOUGH IT'S CLEARED IN 23, IT SHOULD NOT TAKE MORE THAN A YEAR OR SO TO BUY THE RIGHT OF WAY, BUT THE RIGHT OF WAY FOR THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN ON AGAIN, OFF AGAIN FROM TEX-DOT. AND RIGHT NOW IT'S OFF AGAIN, BECAUSE THE RIGHT OF WAY BUDGET FOR THIS DISTRICT HAS BEEN CUT SIGNIFICANTLY. SO THERE ARE 16 PARCELS TO ACQUIRE, TEN ARE NEED, TWO ARE ACQUIRED. AND WHAT TEX-DOT DID WAS THOSE THAT ARE IN NEED. IF THE HEARING HASN'T BEEN SET, THEY CANCELED THE EMINENT DOMAIN, EMINENT DOMAIN HEARING, WHICH MEANS THAT THEY HAVE TO PAY THOSE PEOPLE'S ATTORNEY'S FEES AND THEY'RE WILLING TO PAY THE ATTORNEY'S FEES RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO PAY WHATEVER THE AWARD IS. WE'RE WORKING ON THAT RIGHT NOW. ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF YEAR AND A HALF AGO, THEY STOPPED REQUIRING A LOCAL MATCH FOR RIGHT OF WAY. AND THEN RIGHT AFTER THAT, THEY RAN OUT OF RIGHT OF WAY MONEY.

AND SO NOW THE COUNTY IS COMING BACK AND SAYING, LOOK, PAYING FOR RIGHT OF WAY IS THE SAME AS PAYING FOR DESIGN, THE SAME AS PAYING FOR CONSTRUCTION. IF THE RIGHT OF WAY IS HOLDING UP THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROJECT, LET US PUT MONEY INTO THE RIGHT OF WAY SO THAT WE CAN KEEP THESE PROJECTS MOVING. BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T EVER BUY THE RIGHT AWAY, GUESS WHAT YOU CAN'T DO? YOU CAN'T MOVE THE UTILITIES, RIGHT? IF YOU DON'T GET THE UTILITIES, MOVE THE PROJECTS NOT READY TO LET. SO IT'S A DO LOOP. SO ON ALL THESE ONES, WHEN YOU SEE THE RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION EFFORTS ARE ON HOLD. THEY'RE ON HOLD RIGHT NOW. BUT WE ARE WORKING DILIGENTLY WITH BOTH THE DISTRICT AND HEADQUARTERS ON TO FIND A WAY FOR THE COUNTY TO STEP UP AND FILL THAT SLOT.

WHICH IS WHY SEPTEMBER 28TH FOR RIGHT OF WAY, TWO YEARS FOR UTILITY RELOCATION, BECAUSE THERE'S SEVERAL UTILITIES WE HAVE TO ADDRESS, AND THEN IT PUSHES IT OUT TO 2030. BUT WE'RE GOING TO THIS IS A BUDGET ISSUE. AND THE BUDGET FOR THE FOR TEX-DOT IS A PENDULUM SWING GOES BACK AND FORTH BACK AND FORTH. AND WHAT I'VE COUNSELED MY CLIENTS TO DO IS WHEN THERE'S NO MONEY AND EVERYBODY'S PANICKING BECAUSE THE BUDGETS ARE CUT, THERE'S NO, NO HOPE. THAT'S WHEN YOU DEVELOP YOUR PROJECTS, RIGHT? YOU JUST KEEP PUSHING BECAUSE YOU'RE OUTSI YOU'RE GETR PROJECTS READY. AND THEN WHEN THE PENDULUM SWINGS BACK AND THE MONEY'S THERE, THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK FOR PROJECTS THAT ARE READY. AND EVERYBODY ELSE HAS BEEN DAWDLING OR THROTTLING AND OUR PROJECTS ARE READY. AND THEN WE GET PICKED UP WHEN THE PENDULUM SWINGS BACK. SO AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO SWING SOMETIME POST MID 26 TO 28, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A DIFFERENT FED CHAIR AT SOME POINT MAYBE TODAY I DIDN'T READ THE NEWS. OIL AND GAS IS GOING TO COME BACK BECAUSE OF ALL THE PUSH. AND THAT'S WHAT'S CAUSING THE BUDGET ISSUES FOR THE STATE OF TEXAS, FOR THE COMPTROLLER IS THE OIL AND GAS ISSUES. SO ONCE THAT STARTS TO ROLL BACK ONLINE, TEXAS STARTS GETTING THEIR SHARE OF THAT. THE SWING WILL SWING AND WE'LL BE READY. WHICH IS WHY WE'RE PUSHING ON THE RIGHT OF WAY. OKAY, THE QUESTION ON THIS ONE, I KNOW IT'S PRETTY FAR OUT THE ARGYLE OR 1171 WE WERE LOOKING AT. OKAY. IS THAT WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT OR. NO. OKAY.

YEAH. THE PART OF 35 LIKE OVER 1171 THAT BRIDGE. IS THAT PART OF THIS. THAT'S PART OF THE FRONTAGE ROAD JOB. THAT'S THE SOUTHERN PART, WHICH WE'RE WORKING ON GETTING THAT FUNDED

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WE GOT A. JACOB HAS PREPARED A SUPPLEMENTAL AGREEMENT TO ADVANCE THE PROJECT. DO WE ANTICIPATE BEYOND THE COMMISSIONERS COURT IN THE NEXT 60 DAYS? SO WE'RE GOING TO KEEP PROGRESSING THIS PROJECT AS WELL. THE GOOD NEWS ON THIS ONE IS THERE'S NO RIGHT OF WAY NEEDED BECAUSE IT CROSSES THE CORE AND WE HAVE TO STAY IN THE CORE EASEMENT SO WE DON'T GET HIT BY THE RIGHT OF WAY BUDGET. AND BUT YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE CORE. WELL WE'RE CLEARED, SO WE GOT THROUGH THE CORE. HEY, I'VE BEEN SPEAKING CORE FOR 30 YEARS, AND THEY UNDERSTAND TWO THINGS. YOU SURRENDER EARLY AND PAY WHAT THEY ASK, AND YOU CAN GET WHATEVER YOU WANT. AS LONG AS YOU AGREE WITH THEM. OKAY, SO YOU ALL KNOW THE 114 PROJECT WE ARE LOOKING AT, ALTHOUGH IT SAYS MAY OF 2026, WE ARE THINKING THAT PROBABLY SOMETIME IN MARCH OR SO, WE'LL BE WHAT'S AT WHAT WE CALL SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETE, WHICH MEANS YOU'RE DRIVING ON THE LANES WHERE YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE, WHEN YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE, AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS BEING DONE ON THE PERIPHERAL STRIPING, LANDSCAPING, MOVING SIGNALS, ETC. SO THIS PROJECT IS AHEAD OF SCHEDULE, AND WE THINK THAT BY MARCH YOU'LL BE DRIVING ON A, ON A FREEWAY. THAT'S. WHERE YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE. OKAY. THE 35 W JOB. THIS IS THE 407 TWO. 2449. SO TALKING ABOUT TIMELINES, IF YOU LOOK ON YOUR REPORT, THERE ARE WE HAD TO ACQUIRE 58 PARCELS OF LAND, AND WE'VE GOT 55 OUT OF THE 58. THREE OF THEM ARE IN TEXAS GOING TO GO AHEAD AND PURSUE THESE BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE MONEY FOR THE INTERIM 212, $213 MILLION JOB, WHICH BUILDS THE ULTIMATE GRADE SEPARATIONS AT 407 ROBSON RANCH AND A COUPLE MORE TO THE NORTH, CLEVELAND GIBBS, I THINK. AND THEN BUILDS FRONTAGE ROADS TO CONNECT THEM.

BUT IT TOOK ABOUT THREE YEARS TO BUY ALL THAT RIGHT OF WAY, BECAUSE THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THEM ARE MORE SOPHISTICATED THAN OTHERS. RIGHT. AND THE STATE IS SLOW IN THE IN THAT PROCESS BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO STEAMROLL ANYBODY. AND SO THAT'S WHY THE, THE PROJECT, YOU SEE THAT IT TOOK US QUITE A BIT OF TIME TO BUY THAT RIGHT OF WAY, BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF RIGHT OF WAY. NOW WHERE WE'RE IN THE SITUATION IS WE'VE GOT THE FUNDING BECAUSE BUT BECAUSE YOU SEE THERE IT SAYS CATEGORY 12 OF $188 MILLION AND CATEGORY TWO OF $24 MILLION, CATEGORIES TWO FOUR, FIVE AND 12 ARE SUBJECT TO THAT LEVEL OF THAT. SO WE THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE READY TO LET. BUT RIGHT NOW, THEY SLOTTED OUR PROJECT FOR DECEMBER OF 2028 HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT BEING READY. IT HAS TO DO WHEN THAT FIRST SLOT COMES OPEN. BUT 35 W IS A HIGH

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SO IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT PROJECT YOU'LL SEE THAT WE'RE DOING TWO BREAKOUT JOBS ON THIS PROJECT.

AND THE FIRST PROJECT IS MAKING HAVING TURN LANES AND TURNING MOVEMENTS FROM, I'M SUPPOSED TO CALL IT GIBBS ROAD NOW. YES, SIR. I GOT YELLED AT FOR I DIDN'T EVEN MAKE IT IN THE DOOR BEFORE I GOT YELLED AT. SO ON GIBBS ROBINSON RANCH ROAD AND THEN ROBINSON RANCH BOULEVARD AND THE SIGNAL SHOULD YOU'LL START TO SEE THE FOUNDATIONS BEING POURED BY THE CITY STARTING NEXT WEEK, WITH COUNTIES PAYING FOR IT. BUT CITY IS TAKING A SIGNAL THAT THEY HAVE OFF THE 3.38 THAT THEY'RE NOT USING ANYMORE, AND THEY'RE GOING TO BRING IT DOWN HERE. AND THEN A WEEK AND A HALF, TWO WEEKS AFTER THAT, THE SIGNAL FOR. H-E-B STARTS. SO WE'LL HAVE TWO SIGNALS TURNING MOVEMENT. SO WHAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO IS GET THE TRAFFIC THROUGH THAT AREA IN AN INTERIM BASIS TO HELP MOVE THAT TRAFFIC THROUGH. WHEN I WAS COMING HERE, I WAS THINKING ABOUT TURNING ON CLEVELAND GIBBS TO GET HERE, BUT BY THE TIME I GOT THERE, THERE WERE MORE CARS PACKED UP ON THE FRONTAGE ROAD TO GO TO CLEVELAND GIBBS THAN THERE WERE 407. SO I JUST KEPT GOING. SO THIS MAY BE ONCE WE GET THESE IMPROVEMENTS DONE, THOSE SIGNALS, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO GET A BACK DOORWAY INTO GIBBS ROAD. THE SIGNAL YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR H-E-B THERE. WHERE IN THAT AREA IS IT GOING TO BE LOCATED? IS IT CLOSER TO 35 OR IS IT IN BETWEEN THAT SPAN? IT IS. IT'S THEY'RE WICKED CLOSE. SO, YOU KNOW, I FORGET THE NAME OF THE ROAD, BUT THAT THAT ROAD THAT THEY'RE BUILDING STARTS WITH AN L NOT LEGACY, BUT LANDMARK. WHO? LANDMARK.

LANDMARK. THERE'LL BE A SIGNAL LANDMARK. BUT BETWEEN LANDMARK AND THE FRONTAGE ROAD, THERE'LL BE ANOTHER SIGNAL TO TURN INTO H-E-B. IT'S NO BUENO. BUT WE WEREN'T ASKED OUR OPINION. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH TXDOT TO TRY TO GET A SET OF SIGNALS AT 35 FOR BOTH SIDES OF THE FRONTAGE ROADS. AND THEN ONE AT GIBBS AND THE ROBINSONS, AND THAT'LL START NEXT WEEK. FOR SOME OF THESE, ARE THESE BASED OFF OF LIKE TRAFFIC STUDIES OR LIKE WHAT WHAT LIKE WHAT MAKES THIS PROJECT PROJECT THIS ONE THE ARGYLE 377. LIKE SOME OF THESE KNOWING THE TRAFFIC THOSE COMPARED AGAIN NOT TO GO BACK TO THE PAINFUL ONE BUT 407 UNDER 35. I MEAN I DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND HOW THAT THAT'S NOT PRIORITIZED OVER. SO THIS IS A NONFEDERAL ROAD. SO WE CAN BASICALLY MAKE IT UP AS WE GO ALONG. SO THE ROBINSON RANCH PROJECT IS ALL JUST COUNTY DESIGN. WE'RE FOLLOWING DENTON DESIGN STANDARDS FOR THE SIGNAL, NORTHLAKE AND ARGYLE DESIGN FOR THE ROAD. THERE'S NO ENVIRONMENTAL CLEARANCE. THERE'S NONE OF THAT STUFF. YOU JUST DESIGN IT AND YOU GO BUILD IT. SO THAT'S WHY THEY MOVE FASTER. BUT THE COLOR OF MONEY MATTERS, RIGHT? SO EVEN THOUGH THE COUNTY IS PAYING THAT $40 MILLION FOR THE BREAKOUT JOB, YOU'RE BUILDING A STATE FARM TO MARKET UNDERNEATH THE INTERSTATE. AND SO THE STATE CONTROLS THAT NARRATIVE. WE DIDN'T MAKE THE RULES, BUT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THEM. SO WHEN YOU WHEN YOU'RE ON

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WE COUNCIL INPUT AND I'M SPEAKING TO THE COUNCIL. YOU ASKED US TO LOOK AT BREAKING THESE PROJECTS OUT TO GET MOVING FORWARD. SO WE'RE WE'VE YOU'RE GOING TO AWARD TONIGHT THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT WITH THE DM FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE NORTH NORTH SECTION. AND I BELIEVE THAT BRINGS ME TO THE END OF MY EFFORTS. QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, COUNCIL. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR MR. POLSTER? JOLENE, I'LL SAY THAT I DON'T ENVY YOUR JOB. I'VE HAD ONE CONVERSATION WHERE I SAID, PLEASE EXPLAIN THE INS AND OUTS OF THIS TO ME, MR. POLSTER, AND IT MADE ME WANT TO PULL OUT MY EYELASHES. SO IT'S A HARD IT'S A IT'S NOT AN EASY TASK THAT THAT THIS IS. AND I'M JUST GLAD THAT WE HAVE SOMEBODY LIKE YOU WORKING ON IT WITH US. MY BROTHER SAYS I'M HALFWAY TO BEING AN IDIOT SAVANT. WELL, JOHN, THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HELP THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS AND I LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUE WORKING WITH YOU AND THE COUNTY

[2.B. Briefing - Preliminary Fiscal Year 2026 Tax Rate and Revenues]

THEY ARE STILL DOING SOME WORK ON SOME OUTSTANDING ISSUES REGARDING THAT ROLL. SO WE'RE WAITING TO SEE IF THAT CHANGES A LITTLE BIT. BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, 3.7 BILLION IN TAXABLE VALUE FOR TAX YEAR 2025, THE TAX YEAR ALWAYS RUNS A YEAR BEHIND THE FISCAL YEAR. AND TAXABLE VALUES INCREASED BY 18%. 9% OF THOSE VALUES ARE DUE TO NEW VALUE. AND THEN THE SPLIT RIGHT NOW IS 44% COMMERCIAL AND 5,056% RESIDENTIAL. SO WE'VE HAD SOME GROWTH IN THE RESIDENTIAL AND THAT ALWAYS THERE'S KIND OF AN EBB AND FLOW, A PUSH AND PULL FACTOR AS RESIDENTIAL COME IN.

COMMERCIAL USUALLY FOLLOWS AND COMMERCIAL ALSO TENDS TO COME IN IN SPURTS. THE PRELIMINARY TAX RATE. THIS IS OUR BEST ESTIMATE THAT WE CAN GIVE AS OF RIGHT NOW. OBVIOUSLY THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT, THEY RUN THEIR CALCULATIONS, THEY HAVE SOME NUMBERS THAT WE DON'T HAVE THAT THEY USE, THAT THEY UPDATE US WITH. ONE OF THOSE, FOR EXAMPLE, WOULD BE BANK BANKRUPTCY CASES AND HOW MUCH THEY THINK THAT DOLLAR VALUE IS OR OTHER TYPES OF LITIGATION. BUT ACCORDING TO OUR BEST ESTIMATES RIGHT NOW, A NO NEW REVENUE RATE OF $0.27 WOULD GENERATE ABOUT 9.8 MILLION. A VOTER APPROVED RATES OF 9.9 MILLION. AND THEN THE DE MINIMIS, WE'RE ESTIMATING WILL

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BUT THOSE RATES DEFINITIONS ARE DOWN THERE AT THE BOTTOM, THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE THAT IS ALWAYS AIMED AT PRODUCING THE SAME AMOUNT OF REVENUE ON THE SAME TAX PROPERTIES AS THE PRIOR YEAR, PLUS ANY ADDITIONAL NEW VALUE THAT'S COME ONTO THE ROLLS. THE VOTER APPROVED RATE IS THAT NO NEW REVENUE RATE, PLUS AN ADDITIONAL 3.5%. AND THEN THE DE MINIMIS, WHICH IS AN OPTION FOR TOWNS AND CITIES OF 30,000 OR LESS, THAT ALLOWS US TO ADD ON, TAKE THE NEW REVENUE RATE AND THEN ADD ON AN ADDITIONAL RATE THAT WOULD GENERATE AN ADDITIONAL 500,000.

THEY LIKE TO CALL IT THE AMBULANCE OR FIRE TRUCK EXCEPTION. SO. AGAIN, LOOKING AT SALES TAX, WE'VE COLLECTED 2.7 MILLION THROUGH JULY. THAT'S 200,000, ABOUT 11% OVER WHERE WE WERE AT THIS POINT LAST YEAR. WE'VE SEEN STEADY GROWTH ACROSS A NUMBER OF SECTORS. WE'RE PROJECTING RIGHT NOW 3.8 MILLION IN REVENUE FOR FISCAL YEAR 26. JUST AS A REMINDER, SALES TAX IS ALWAYS VOLATILE. IT'S RESPONSIVE TO THE MARKET AND WHAT PEOPLE WANT TO WANT TO BUY AND PURCHASE. SO WE ALWAYS TEND TO HEDGE A LITTLE BIT WITH SALES TAX. BUT WE'RE EXPECTING THE GENERAL FUND TO PRODUCE ABOUT 2 MILLION, THE EDC AND CDC TO COLLECT 1.4 MILLION TOGETHER.

AND THEN THE SPORTS VENUE FUND IS APPROACHING 500,000 IN TERMS OF COLLECTION FOR SALES TAX. AND WE'RE PROJECTING A 7% INCREASE OVER THE PRIOR YEAR BUDGET. THIS IS A LITTLE BIT LOWER THAN WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN GROWTH TRENDS OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. WE'VE HISTORICALLY UNDER BUDGETED SALES TAX ONCE AGAIN BECAUSE IT'S A VOLATILE FUND. BUT WE BELIEVE WE CAN CATCH UP A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO OVER BUDGET. SO WE FOUND THAT BASED ON OUR ESTIMATES AND LOOKING AT THE PAST, THE 7% WE THINK IS A GOOD ESTIMATE FOR THIS UPCOMING YEAR. UTILITY REVENUE CONTINUES TO TREND UPWARD. THAT'S A FACTOR OF. WE HAVE HAD RATE INCREASES OVER THE YEAR. WE DO THAT STEADY EACH YEAR TO TRY AND IDENTIFY IF INCREASES ARE NEEDED IN THE RATES, WHAT THOSE SHOULD BE SO THAT WE STAY CAUGHT UP AND WE DON'T EVER HAVE TO PLAY CATCH UP WITH A MASSIVE RATE INCREASE.

BUT A LOT OF THIS IS ALSO DRIVEN BY NEW PROPERTIES COMING ONLINE, NEW RESIDENTIAL, NEW COMMERCIAL, NEW USERS WHO ARE CONNECTING TO THE SYSTEM, LOOKING AT OUR UTILITY REVENUE, SPECIFICALLY OUR WATER SALES WERE PROJECTING AT ABOUT 11.1 MILLION, SEWER SALES AT 9.2 MILLION. AND AS I MENTIONED, THAT'S REALLY BEING DRIVEN BY INCREASED RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL GROWTH. EXPENSES WOULD BE ABOUT FOUR, 4 MILLION FROM OUR WHOLESALE PROVIDERS. SO THAT'S OPPORTUNITY. TRINITY RIVER AUTHORITY, FORT WORTH THEY ALL SUPPLY WATER AND SEWER SERVICES. THE TOWN DOESN'T PRODUCE ITS OWN. WE BRING IT IN AND THEN SUPPORT FOR DEBT. THE REVENUE GOES TO SUPPORT WATER AND SEWER CAPITAL PROJECTS, AS WELL AS FUNDING OPERATIONAL COSTS. SO RIGHT NOW, IF YOU LOOK AT THE GRAPH JUST ON THE RIGHT, I ALWAYS LIKE TO SHOW THIS. IT SHOWS HOW THE EXPENSES OPERATE.

SO 76% ARE FIXED COSTS, THINGS THAT WE CAN'T DO MUCH ABOUT. THAT'S RELATED TO DEBT SERVICE, WHICH IS 26% OF THOSE FIXED COSTS. BUT REALLY THAT WHOLESALE WATER AND SEWER THAT MAKES UP A BULK OF THOSE FIXED COSTS. IT'S THE RATES THAT ARE PROVIDED TO US THAT WE THEN HAVE TO PASS ON IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FUND IS GENERATING WHAT IT NEEDS IN ORDER TO MEET, MEET THE COSTS OF WHOLESALE AND WATER OR WHOLESALE WATER AND SEWER FROM FROM OUR PROVIDERS. THE OTHER ONE THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IN PAST COUNCIL MEETINGS IS THIS ALSO THE STORM WATER DRAINAGE FEE. NOW, THESE PROJECTIONS AND THEIR IMPACT ON THE BUDGETS ARE ALL CONTINGENT ON COUNCIL APPROVING THE FEE. BUT WE'RE ESTIMATING ABOUT 400,000 TOTAL IN REVENUE, 275,000 FROM RESIDENTIAL, 125,000, POSSIBLY ADDITIONAL FOR COMMERCIAL. THE 125,000 IS BASED ON THE LAST STUDY THAT WE DID, BUT WE'VE HAD ADDITIONAL COMMERCIAL. COME ON. WE JUST HAVEN'T GATHERED ALL THE INFORMATION FROM THEM ON THEIR IMPERVIOUS SURFACE AREAS AND WHAT THAT FEE WOULD APPLY TO THE REVENUES FROM THIS FUND. IF IT WAS IF THE FEE WAS APPROVED, IT WOULD BE USED TO REIMBURSE THE GENERAL FUND FOR THAT PAST EXPENSES THAT THE TOWN HAS SPENT ON STORM DRAINAGE FUNDING, SPECIFICALLY FROM SOME OF THOSE UNFUNDED MANDATES PASSED ON TO US FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THE STATE. ALSO ESTABLISHING A FUND THAT WOULD BE DEDICATED TO COVERING PROJECTS, EQUIPMENT AND STAFFING RELATED TO STORM WATER. JUST LIKE WE HAVE A FUND DEDICATED FOR WATER AND SEWER, THIS WOULD BE A FUND DEDICATED TO COVERING STORMWATER EXPENSES.

SOME OF THOSE INCLUDE A 700,000 FOR A VACUUM TRUCK, POTENTIALLY IN FISCAL YEAR 28 OR 29. ALSO WORKING ON CEMENT PILOT CHANNELS, A STREET SWEEPING PROGRAM, STORMWATER DRAINAGE CREW CONDUCTING REQUIRED DRAINAGE STUDIES. THESE ARE ALL OPPORTUNITY EXPENSES THAT COULD

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[3. PUBLIC INPUT]

IT'S VERY TECHNOLOGY DEPENDENT, SO I TOLD THEM I'D BE HAPPY TO DO THAT BECAUSE I CAN'T SAY NO TO THOSE GUYS. I DON'T REALLY COME AT THIS WITH ANY SORT OF AGENDA. I, YOU KNOW, 911 IS JUST A VITAL PUBLIC SERVICE. IT HAS TO BE FUNDED. THEY GOT TO KEEP THE LIGHTS ON. WE'VE GOT TO MAKE THOSE CALLS GO THROUGH. SO THERE'S REALLY NO NO AGENDA THERE JUST OTHER THAN ENSURE THAT IT'S GOT GOOD GOVERNANCE. YOU KNOW, YOU'VE YOU'VE GOT A BIO FROM ME AND ALSO A LETTER AND I DON'T WANT TO REHASH ALL THAT. BUT JUST, YOU KNOW, THE CONCERN I HAVE IS THAT THIS IS 65% FUNDED BY A 50 CENT TAX ON OUR CELL PHONES EVERY MONTH. YOUR CELL PHONE PLAN, THAT $0.50 GOES TO THE STATE. THE STATE KICKS IT BACK ACCORDING TO POPULATION. AND THAT NUMBER HASN'T RISEN IN A WHILE. SO, YOU KNOW, AS YOU KNOW, INFLATION HAS TAKEN A TOLL IN THE PAST FEW YEARS. SO BUDGETS COULD GET. IT COULD GET UNFUN IN THE COMING YEARS. WE SEE SOME DRAWDOWN ON RESERVES. THEY'RE IN A GOOD, GOOD SHAPE RIGHT NOW. BUT LET'S JUST KEEP IT THAT WAY. THAT'S THAT'S WHERE I'M COMING FROM. SO I JUST WANT TO COME OUT HERE AND INTRODUCE MYSELF IN PERSON AND LET YOU KNOW I'M WILLING TO COME OUT HERE AND TALK TO YOU GUYS ANYTIME. IF I REPRESENT YOU ON THE BOARD, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT MY CELL NUMBER AND EMAIL AND ANY CONCERNS YOU HAVE WITH THE

[00:55:04]

ANYTIME WE CAN HELP SOMEBODY OUT YOU KNOW HOPEFULLY BY THEN SOME PEOPLE ARE PLANNING ON RETIRING AND TAX BILLS IN NORTH LAKE ARE INSANELY HIGH. I KNOW IT'S NOT ALL NORTH LAKE TAXES, IT'S MOSTLY SCHOOL. BUT ANY HELP WE CAN GIVE OVER 65 PEOPLE AND WE GOT A COUPLE OF PEOPLE HERE THAT WOULD QUALIFY FOR THAT. NOT NOT ME YET, BUT I THINK THAT'S GREAT. BUT AS I MENTIONED BEFORE TOO, A TAX FREEZE WOULD BE AWESOME. MOST CITIES FREEZE TAXES OVER 65, AND I DON'T BELIEVE NORTH LAKE HAS THAT. SO THE COUNTY AND THE SCHOOL TAXES ARE FROZEN. BUT I DON'T BELIEVE NORTH LAKES ARE. SO WE NEED TO TAKE A TAKE A LOOK AT THAT TOO. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE THIS EVENING, MISS HARTMAN? I AM MARINA HARTMAN. I JUST HAVE A FACTUAL QUESTION. I'M UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT YOU NORMALLY ANSWER THESE FACTUAL QUESTIONS. AND I DON'T THINK THIS HAS EVER BEEN ADDRESSED HERE. IF YOU WERE TO DO AWAY WITH THE EDC, CDC, WOULD THESE FUNDS THAT ARE NOW GOING TO THESE GIFT CARDS BE ABLE TO BE DEPOSITED IN THE GENERAL FUND? YES, WE HAVE SEVERAL OPTIONS HERE, INCLUDING WHICH ACRONYM? MDD, MDD, WHICH IS BEEN IMPLEMENTED, SOME OTHER TOWNS, AND WE HAVE DISCUSSED LOOKING AT THAT FOR NEXT SPRING. SO NOT WITH THE CURRENT $300,000 GIVEAWAY THAT NORTH LAKE IS LOOKING AT. IS THAT CORRECT? WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED THAT ITEM YET.

WE HAVEN'T BEEN PRESENTED WITH IT. NO, I KNOW, BUT THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT. YOU'RE LOOKING AT SPENDING CURRENT MONEY. OH, CAN THE CURRENT FUNDS IN THOSE AMOUNTS I DO NOT KNOW.

THAT'S MY QUESTION. CAN THE LEGAL WEIGH IN? I'M JUST CURIOUS, A FACTUAL QUESTION. WE CAN ANSWER IT. YOU WANT TO KNOW IF THE CURRENT EDC, CDC FUNDS TRANSFERRED TO GENERAL FUND? IF YOU DID AWAY WITH EDC, CDC, AND EXCEPT FOR THOSE MONIES THAT WERE ALREADY DEDICATED. OKAY, IF BOTH CORPORATIONS WERE DISSOLVED, IS THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING? WELL, I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU COULD DISSOLVE THEM LEGALLY BECAUSE THEY HAVE SOME REQUIREMENTS. THEY HAVE SOME DEDICATED FUNDS. YEAH. SO COULD YOU LESSEN THE AMOUNT AND ONLY MAKE IT THE AMOUNT. ALL RIGHT.

WE NEED COMEBACK THIS. YES WITH THE DISCUSSION. BUT I MEAN WE CAN WE CAN TALK AFTER AND I CAN EXPLAIN THAT TO YOU OKAY. BUT IF IT'S DOABLE, I WOULD SUGGEST DOING THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY PROJECTS THAT WE'VE SEEN JUST TODAY, ESPECIALLY ROAD PROJECTS THAT COULD BE PAID FOR OR AT LEAST HELPED WITH THAT $300,000. I THINK THAT THAT IT IS NOT A WISE USE OF OUR MONEY TO JUST GIVE IT AWAY. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY ELSE FOR

[4. CONSENT ITEMS]

[01:00:02]

[4.D. Consider approval of a Resolution of the Town of Northlake, Texas, awarding Bid No.25-04 and authorizing the Town Manager to execute an agreement with DDM Construction Inc. for the reconstruction of Faught Road from Old Justin Road to Robson Ranch Road in an amount not to exceed $4,793,491.85]

[4.D. VOTE]

[5.A. Consider approval of a Resolution of the Town of Northlake, Texas, making an appointment of one representative to the Board of Managers of the Denco Area 9-1-1 District]

THAT'S THAT'S JUST MY INPUT TO THIS. I FEEL LIKE WE ALSO NEED SOME OF THE SMALLER TOWN REPRESENTATION ON THAT BOARD. I HAVE NO NO ISSUES WITH QUALIFICATIONS OF STEVE HERE EITHER, SO JUST LET YOU KNOW. I TALKED TO A REP WHO'S BEEN SERVING US HONORABLY FOR OVER A DECADE, I THINK, AND SHE WAS VERY HAPPY TO RECOMMEND SOMEONE. SO WITH THAT, DO WE HAVE ANY

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[5.A. VOTE]

I'LL SECOND. ALL RIGHT. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. WE'LL TAKE A VOTE.

MOTION CARRIES 6 TO 1. WELCOME, STEVE. AT LEAST FOR OUR NOMINATION. I WISH YOU BEST OF

[5.B. Consider adoption of an Ordinance of the Town of Northlake, Texas, amending Chapter 9A, "Unified Development Code," of the Code of Ordinances of the Town of Northlake, Texas, as amended, by changing the zoning classification of a 117-acre tract of land in the Holland Anderson Survey, Abstract No. 25, and the Z. J. Harmonson Survey, Abstract No. 532, in the Town of Northlake from "AG" Agricultural to "I-PD" Industrial Planned Development and revising the official zoning map in accordance therewith; providing for the adoption of development standards; providing for the adoption of a concept plan; providing a severability clause; providing a savings clause; providing that this ordinance is cumulative; providing a penalty for violation; providing for publication; and providing an effective date - Case # 24-PDA00002]

THERE'LL BE A PART OF THIS. ZONING CALLS FOR FOUR BUILDINGS. I BELIEVE IT'S ABOUT ONE POINT 7,000,000FT■!S OF WAREHOUSE SPA. PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ACTED ON THIS THEIR JULY 15TH MEETING. THEY HELD A PUBLIC HEARING WITH. THERE WERE NO SPEAKERS AT THAT HEARING, AND THEY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE ZONING CHANGE UNANIMOUSLY. AND TONIGHT YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ACT ON THIS AFTER YOU HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING. ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS BEFORE WE START PUBLIC HEARING? I HAVE A QUESTION SOMEWHAT RELATED TO THIS WITH IT. WHEN IT COMES TO THE WASTEWATER THING THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING, DOES THAT, YOU KNOW, AS THESE COME ON, IS THERE A GAP BETWEEN WHEN THAT WASTEWATER, WHATEVER TAX THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WOULD APPLY TO THESE TYPE OF BUSINESSES, INDUSTRIAL. TALK ABOUT THE STORMWATER. STORMWATER. YEAH. SORRY. THEY'LL BE TAXED AS SOON AS THEY GET THEIR, THEIR THEIR BILL OR WHATEVER. YEAH. GOTCHA. OKAY.

ANYTHING ELSE. ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:38 P.M. DO I HAVE ANYBODY TO SPEAK AT PUBLIC HEARING? JOEL SMITH, THANK YOU. OKAY. SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE

[5.B. VOTE]

MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY 7 TO 0. ITEM C WE HAVE ADOPTION ORDINANCE TOWN NORTH LAKE

[5.C. Consider adoption of an Ordinance of the Town of Northlake, Texas, amending Ordinance No. 22- 0526A (Section 2), increasing the exemption to Ad Valorem Property Taxes for Residence Homesteads of elderly and disabled individuals in the Town of Northlake, Texas]

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[5.C. VOTE]

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR OPTION NUMBER THREE TO RAISE THE EXEMPTION $200,000, DECREASING REVENUES BY 135,000.

MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. TAX RELIEF. TAX RELIEF FOR NORTH LAKE RESIDENTS. ALL RIGHT. NEXT

[5.D. Consider approval of a Resolution of the Town of Northlake, Texas, ratifying the actions taken by the Northlake Economic Development Corporation (EDC) and Northlake Community Development Corporation (CDC) Boards of Directors, approving a Business Gift Card Program to provide targeted assistance to businesses impacted by State Highway 114 construction activity in a total amount up to $150,000 - FIRST READING]

SO WE DISCUSSED IT AS A POTENTIAL TO DO THIS YEAR FOR THE 114 BUSINESSES. AND IF THAT PROVES SUCCESSFUL, THERE'S THE POTENTIAL TO DO THIS AS OTHER CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS COME ALONG. AND WE'RE EXPECTING THE BREAKOUT PROJECT WITH 407 TO START NEXT YEAR. SO THAT WAS ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY THAT WAS DISCUSSED. BUT TONIGHT THIS PROJECT IS JUST TARGETED TO THE 114 CORRIDOR. SO AS APPROVED BY THE EDC AND CDC. THEY SET A THIS PROGRAM WOULD HAVE A $25 VALUE GIFT CARD THAT WOULD BE DISTRIBUTED TO EVERY NORTH LAKE HOUSEHOLD. SO THESE WOULD BE JUST HOUSEHOLDS IN NORTH LAKE AND HOUSEHOLDS THAT RECEIVE UTILITY BILLS FROM US. THAT'S HOW YOU WILL KNOW THEM. AND SO THAT COULD BE WHETHER YOU'RE A WATER CUSTOMER OR MAYBE JUST GET TRASH SERVICE FOR US, FOR THOSE THAT ARE JUST ON WELL OR SEPTIC, BUT THAT WOULD NOT INCLUDE HARVEST BUT DOES NOT INCLUDE HARVEST. SO WE'D BE ABLE TO ISOLATE THAT. SO IT WOULD ONLY BE RESIDENTS OF NORTH LAKE. IT WOULD ONLY BE USED AT BUSINESSES IN THE 114 CORRIDOR AND SPECIFICALLY SALES TAX GENERATING BUSINESSES. SO RETAIL AND RESTAURANTS THERE AND ONLY THOSE THAT HAVE PRIMARY ACCESS AND FRONTAGE ON 114. SO THIS WOULDN'T INCLUDE BUSINESSES OR KIND OF ON THE CORNER OF 35 BECAUSE AS WE'VE SEEN, BUSINESSES THAT HAVE FRONTAGE ON 35 ARE DOING DOING WELL. AND YOU CAN SEE A DIFFERENCE IN HOW THE BUSINESSES ON 114 ARE DOING. SO

[01:15:03]

THERE'S ALSO FOLLOWING THESE ITEMS. THERE'S A RELATED BUDGET AMENDMENT ITEM TO MAKE SURE THE BUDGET'S UPDATED TO PROVIDE FOR THAT COST. AND NOW FOR THE PROPOSED TIMING OF THIS. THIS IS CONSIDERED A TYPE B PROJECT. OUR EDC IS A TYPE A, A CDC IS A TYPE B, BUT BECAUSE OF THEIR SIZE AND AN ORDINANCE THAT THE COUNCIL ADOPTED IN THE PAST, THEY CAN BOTH DO TYPE B PROJECTS AND ESSENTIALLY FUNCTION THE SAME. BUT THOSE PROJECTS REQUIRE A FEW EXTRA STEPS. THAT REQUIRES PUBLIC HEARINGS, NOTICE AND TWO READINGS AND TWO VOTES OF RESOLUTIONS. NOTICE WAS FIRST PROVIDED ON JUNE 28TH, AND THE PROJECT CANNOT BE UNDERTAKEN UNTIL 60 DAYS AFTER THAT NOTICE WAS PUBLISHED. SO THAT WOULD BE AUGUST 27TH. THE REQUIRED PUBLIC HEARINGS WERE WILL WERE HELD AT THE EDC AND CDC MEETINGS, AND THEN TONIGHT TO ACT ON THESE, YOU'LL HAVE TO HAVE TWO READINGS AND VOTES EACH TIME ON THESE RESOLUTIONS. SO THE PLAN WOULD BE IMMEDIATELY AFTER AUGUST 27T, THAT THESE CARDS WOULD BE MAILED OUT SO THEY CAN ARRIVE AT THE END OF AUGUST, 1ST OF SEPTEMBER, AND THEN THOSE CARDS WOULD EXPIRE AT THE END OF OCTOBER. SO GIVE ABOUT TWO MONTHS TIME TO USE IT. THE IDEA BEHIND THIS WAS TO GIVE A LIMITED TIME BECAUSE THEY WANT TO INCREASE THE IMPACT. THE NEED IS NOW, BUT TO GIVE ENOUGH TIME TO MAKE IT SO THAT PEOPLE CAN WORK IT INTO THEIR SCHEDULE TO GET DOWN THERE AND USE THEM. SO THE STEPS FOR APPROVAL. WE'VE ALREADY GONE THROUGH SOME OF THESE. THE CDC BOARD MET ON JULY 17TH. THEY HELD A PUBLIC HEARING. THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS AT THAT MEETING, AND THEY APPROVED THE PROJECT UNANIMOUSLY. THE EDC MET LAST NIGHT. THEY HELD A PUBLIC HEARING WITH NO SPEAKERS, AND THEY ALSO APPROVED THE PROJECT UNANIMOUSLY. SO TONIGHT THIS ITEM IS BEFORE YOU. YOU CAN CONSIDER RATIFYING THIS PROJECT.

THERE'S RECEIVED THE EDC AND CDC APPROVAL, AND YOU'LL NEED TO DO THAT WITH TWO READINGS AND VOTES ON THE RESOLUTION. IF YOU DO NOT APPROVE OF THE PROJECT, YOU MAY PROVIDE GUIDANCE TO THE EDC AND CDC ON SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD BE WILLING TO APPROVE. AND FOLLOWING THESE ITEMS. IF YOU DO

[01:20:02]

YOU CAN DO SALES TAX REIMBURSEMENTS TO RETAILERS LIKE THE PIONEER GRANT. YOU CAN DO SOME UPFRONT GRANTS. YOU CAN DO PUBLIC PARTICIPATION OF INFRASTRUCTURE. BUT IT HAS TO BE RELATED TO AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECT. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? IT HAS TO BE A NEGOTIATED DEVELOPMENT PROJECT. YOU CAN'T REPAVE AN EXISTING ROAD OR ROAD IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA. IT HAS TO BE PART OF ATTRACTING A BUSINESS TO COME TO, TO THE TOWN. I MEAN, BUT THINKING THINGS LIKE PATHS, TRAILS, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS. NOW THE YES, YOU CAN DO THAT. IT WOULD BE ANOTHER ONE OF THESE PROJECTS. WOULD YOU HAVE THE HEARINGS AND MEETINGS? BUT YES, YOU CAN DO THE PARKS AND RECREATION ARE ALLOWED FOR THIS. OKAY. DILEMMA IS WE DON'T HAVE A PARKS DEPARTMENT. TRAILS ARE A LITTLE EASIER BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT QUITE AS MAINTENANCE, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. OKAY. YEAH. I MEAN, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, LESS OF A QUESTION, MORE OF A COMMENT. I MEAN, I'M A BUSINESS OWNER RIGHT HERE ON 407. AND TO BE HONEST, I MEAN, THE TRAFFIC HERE UNDER 35 AND RIGHT HERE ON FOUR SEVEN IS MORE DETRIMENTAL TO THESE BUSINESSES RIGHT HERE IN OUR BUSINESS THAN THAT DOWN THERE THAT THAT'S BEING WORKED ON. SO JUST MY COMMENT IN $0.02 DOCTOR SESSIONS, WHAT HAPPENS TO THESE BUSINESSES AFTER ONLY AN ACCESS ROAD. YOU KNOW NEXT YEAR 114 IS GOING TO GO HIGHER OR WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THEM SOME MORE MONEY THEN. WELL THAT'S A POLICY QUESTION. YEAH, THAT'LL BE UP TO THE EDC AND CDC. IT'S UP TO RECOMMEND IT TO YOU. YEAH. THEM AND US. SO I THINK I'LL SAY PART OF WHAT WE'VE HEARD FROM THE BUSINESSES, THEY'VE AND WE'VE SEEN IT IN NUMBERS. WE'VE, WE CAN SEE THE SALES TAX IN THAT AREA. AND WE HAVE SOME PROGRAMS WHERE WE CAN SEE THE NUMBER OF VISITS IN THAT AREA. AND THERE IT HAS GONE DOWN. AND I THINK PART OF IT IS JUST BECAUSE IT TRAFFIC OVERALL HAS INCREASED, IT'S BEEN HARDER TO GET THROUGH. SOME PEOPLE JUST STAY AWAY FROM THE AREA, DON'T GO THROUGH IT AS OFTEN, AND SOME PEOPLE MAY NOT BE AWARE THAT IT HAS IMPROVED QUITE A BIT, SO IT ISN'T AS DIFFICULT TO GET THROUGH THERE. AND I THINK THAT WAS PART OF THE BOARD'S CONSIDERATION IN DOING THIS, IS TO PROVIDE A REASON FOR PEOPLE TO GO DOWN THERE AND SEE IT'S REALLY NOT THAT BAD. MAYBE TAKE A CHANCE TO GO BACK. THAT'S MY QUESTION. I GUESS THAT'S THE THING IS, LIKE COMING FROM THE EAST SIDE COMING 114 I COULD SEE WHERE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD SEE. ALL RIGHT, WELL, MAYBE IT'S A LITTLE QUICKER, BUT COMING ANYWHERE OTHER THE REST OF NORTH LAKE, THAT'S LIKE THE BOTTOM, YOU KNOW, SOUTH EAST CORNER TO WHERE LIKE YOU GET TO IT RIGHT OFF 35 OR THE EAST WEST SIDE OF 30 OR 114. I'M JUST NOT SEEING THE CHALLENGE. AND SO BUT I KNOW THE PROGRAMS LIKE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, HAVE YOU SEEN THAT, IS THAT ISOLATED TO THAT AREA OR IS THAT SIMILAR HERE ON FOUR SEVEN WITH OTHER BUSINESSES HERE. AND, YOU KNOW, SO IS THAT LIKE YOU SAID, TRAFFIC OVERALL IN THE

[01:25:01]

SO THEIR GOAL IS TO KEEP COLLIERVILLE MONEY IN TOWN. AND THEY'VE SEEN THAT THAT'S BEEN SUCCESSFUL. AND THEN CAN YOU ELABORATE ON IF YOU KNOW EVERYONE GETS THE $25 GIFT CARD IF IT'S NOT USED, HOW THAT WORKS. AND JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ABOUT THAT. SO IF IT'S NOT USED THEN IF IT'S NOT USED BY THE END OF OCTOBER IT WOULD EXPIRE. AND IT WOULD HAVE NO VALUE AT THAT POINT. AND THE ONLY TIME THAT IT HAS VALUE IS WHENEVER YOU GIVE IT TO ONE OF THOSE BUSINESSES THAT CHOOSE TO PARTICIPATE. AND WE'LL MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE INFORMATION ON THE BUSINESSES THAT YOU CAN SPEND THOSE AT, AND THEN THAT BUSINESS TURNS IT IN TO US, AND THEN WE PAY THEM THE $25 BASED ON THOSE. OKAY. AND THEN ONE, ONE ONE LAST QUESTION. WHAT WHAT DO BUSINESSES HAVE TO DO TO PARTICIPATE IN IT? IS IT JUST AN AGREEMENT TO BE PART OF IT? IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY. MR. FOWLER? GOING NEXT NEAR THE END, ALMOST MOST QUESTIONS ARE ALREADY ANSWERED, SO I APPRECIATE THAT. BUT ONE AS FAR AS GIFT CARDS, I KNOW WHEN WE USE GIFT CARDS, MAINLY RESTAURANTS, STUFF LIKE THAT, WE'RE GOING TO GET A LOT MORE USE THAN, LET'S SAY, A GAS STATION. YOU KNOW, ARE THESE GIFT CARDS, CAN THEY BE USED FOR SOMEBODY GOING AND TAKING THAT $25 AND FILLING UP THEIR CAR WITH GAS, OR IS IT JUST FOR THE STORE IN STORE PURCHASE? YEAH, WE KIND OF DISCUSS THAT AND LEFT THAT OPEN. WE THINK THAT 7-ELEVEN CAN DECIDE HOW THEY TAKE THOSE AND HOW THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO APPLY THOSE. OKAY.

SORRY, I JUST WROTE ABOUT A CHICKEN SCRATCH HERE.AVE ANY BUSINESSES CLOSED OVER THERE BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC ISSUES? NO, BUT WE HAVE HEARD FROM ONE THAT I THINK COULD POTENTIALLY CLOSE WITHOUT SOME ASSISTANCE. AND I THINK ONE REASON THE BOARDS LOOKED AT THIS PROGRAM WAS THEY WERE HAVING DIFFICULTY KIND OF DECIDING, DO WE WANT TO GIVE SOME KIND OF HELP DIRECTLY TO JUST ONE BUSINESS OR A COUPLE BUSINESSES YOU HEAR FROM, OR DO YOU WANT TO OPEN IT UP TO ALL THE BUSINESSES AFFECTED AND LET THE MARKET CHOOSE? AND THAT WAS MY NEXT QUESTION, IS WHEN WE GET TO A POINT, MOST OF THE TIME THESE GIFT CARDS ARE GOING TO BE USED FOR THE PLACES PEOPLE VISIT THE MOST ANYWAY, SO THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE USED. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE USED FOR ALL THE BUSINESSES. THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME BUSINESSES THAT ARE STILL STRUGGLING BECAUSE PEOPLE JUST AREN'T GOING TO USE THE GIFT CARDS THERE. HOW DO WE GO ABOUT I MEAN, THEY'RE GOING TO COME BACK TO US LATER AND SAY, HEY, WE'RE STILL STRUGGLING. WE'RE STILL STRUGGLING. WE DIDN'T GET ANY OF THAT. THOSE FUNDS, ONE THING WE'RE GOING TO ONE THING WE'RE TALK TO THESE BUSINESSES

[01:30:04]

THAT'S ALL I GOT. MR. GANS. YEAH. JUST ONE OTHER THING. I THINK IF A BUSINESS IS ON THE BRINK OF CLOSING, I DON'T THINK $25 GIFT CARDS ARE GOING TO REALLY MAKE THAT MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE. AND SECOND, $150,000, YOU CAN PROBABLY GET ANOTHER POLICE OFFICER IN A VEHICLE WITH THAT MONEY THAT WOULD BE BETTER SPENT. WE CAN'T USE THOSE FUNDS TO DO THAT.

WELL, I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE NUMBER BEFORE WE START THROWING MONEY AWAY. UNDERSTOOD. SO I, I COULDN'T I DON'T THINK I CAN SUPPORT THIS, TO BE HONEST. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. GANS. MISS HOLMES. OKAY, I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS BUT ALSO MORE LIKE DISCUSSION.

SO THIS ISN'T JUST IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS ISN'T JUST TO, YOU KNOW, INCENTIVIZE THE BUSINESSES. WHAT WE'RE DOING IS SAYING NORTHLAKE RESIDENTS GO CHECK OUT 114 AGAIN, THE BUSINESSES AREN'T JUST BEING IMPACTED. OUR BUDGET IS BEING IMPACTED BECAUSE THE SALES TAX ARE DOWN. THE ONLY FIXED COST THAT I SEE, THE ONLY FIXED RIGHT NOW COST, IS THE $7,000 FOR THE POSTAGE. ABOUT THE POSTAGE AND PRINTING, AND THAT THE $150,000 IS BASED ON 95% USAGE. AND I HAVE SPENT THE BETTER PART OF MY CAREER IN ADVERTISING, AND I WOULD HAVE KILLED TO GET 95% USAGE ON AN INCENTIVE GIFT CARD. I WAS A HARD NO ON THIS BEFORE I READ HOW THE PROGRAM WORKED, BECAUSE I THOUGHT WE WERE WRITING A CHECK TO GET $150,000 WORTH OF GIFT CARDS OUT TO OUR RESIDENTS. WHAT WE'RE DOING IS GIVING THEM A VOUCHER THAT COULD BE $25 IF THEY GO AND USE IT.

AND SO I DON'T WANT TO I DON'T WANT TO GUESS THE USAGE BECAUSE I HOPE THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, HIGHER AND EFFECTIVE, BUT THAT I THINK THAT WE'LL PROBABLY SEE SOMETHING MORE LIKE 10% AND, AND BE BE LUCKY AT THAT POINT. SO I JUST THINK THAT'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT THAT WE'RE NOT JUST IT DOESN'T SEEM TO ME LIKE WE'RE JUST GIVING MONEY AWAY. IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE INCENTIVIZING PEOPLE TO I HAVEN'T I HAVEN'T GONE DOWN THERE TO MOST OF THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE LISTED THERE, BECAUSE THE EXTRA TIME THAT YOU HAVE TO TAKE TO GET THROUGH ALL THE CONSTRUCTION, I DON'T EVEN KNOW. I YOU KNOW, I PROBABLY AM LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHERE I'M NOT GOING TO GO OUT OF MY WAY TO CHECK SOMETHING OUT IF IT'S GOING TO BE DIFFICULT AND MY REGULAR DAY. BUT THEN IF I HAVE 25 BUCKS, THAT'S GOING TO GO AWAY IN TWO MONTHS BECAUSE IT'S A IT'S ONLY GOING TO BE FOR SEPTEMBER AND OCTOBER, RIGHT? YES. IF I HAVE 25 BUCKS, THEN MAYBE I TAKE THE KIDS TO THE TACO CASA OR WHATEVER IT IS. SO THAT KIND OF BROUGHT ME AROUND, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE WE APPOINT THE CDC AND EDC BOARDS FOR A REASON, AND THAT I DO WANT TO GIVE THEM SOME CREDIT FOR BEING REALLY CREATIVE AND COMING UP WITH A PROGRAM THAT MEETS A NEED. AND I DON'T THINK THAT WE NEED TO VIEW IT AS LIKE A BLANKET. WE HAVE TO HELP EVERYONE DO EVERYTHING. I THINK THAT THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOMETHING, AND THAT WE'RE NOT PROMISING TO SAVE EVERY BUSINESS ON 114, AND I DON'T THINK THAT SHOULD BE. OUR GOAL IS TO BE THE SAVIOR OF EVERY BUSINESS, BUT TO GET NORTHLAKE RESIDENTS ONLY TO GO AND CHECK IT OUT. I LIKE IT. IF. OKAY, SO THE FIXED COST. SO.

WHERE WILL THE MONEY GO IF THE WHEN WE GET TO THE END OF OCTOBER AND WE HAVE 25% USAGE, WHATEVER IT IS ON THE GIFT CARDS, 5095 IF WE HAVE EXTRA MONEY THAT HASN'T BEEN USED, DOES IT JUST GO BACK INTO THEIR BUDGET? YES. IT JUST BE ADDED TO THEIR FUND BALANCE. SO IF WE IF THERE'S 1,015% USAGE ON THE GIFT CARDS, THE WHOLE REST OF THE DIFFERENCE GOES RIGHT BACK INTO THE BUDGET TO BE USED FOR SOMETHING ELSE. SO JUST IT'S NOT SPENT. IT'S NOT EVEN REMOVED.

YEAH. IT'S SPENT JUST GOT USED. YEAH. SO WE'RE RIGHT NOW AGREEING TO DEFINITELY SPEND THE MONEY ON POSTAGE AND PRINTING AND THEN UP TO $150,000. IF 95% OF OUR RESIDENTS THAT HAVE TRASH, THAT HAVE GET THE TRASH SERVICE RIGHT, USE GIFT CARDS. SO I FELT I FEEL LIKE THAT'S IMPORTANT TO CLARIFY THAT. WE'RE JUST SAYING YOU HAVE TWO MONTHS TO SPEND IT, AND I WOULD BE

[01:35:01]

BASICALLY, WE'RE NOT INCENTIVIZING THE RESTAURANTS. WE'RE GIVING OUR TAXPAYERS 25 BUCKS TO GO EAT. YOU KNOW, I, I LIKE IT A LOT MORE. I WAS SUPER AGAINST IT WHEN WE WHEN I AT FIRST READING, AND I LIKE THE INTENT BEHIND IT A LOT MORE BECAUSE IT IMPACTS US, OUR SALES TAX REVENUE AND HELPS OUR RESIDENTS. ONE THING I WILL SAY THAT I DIDN'T SAY EARLIER WAS THAT I DON'T LIKE THAT WE WOULD EXCLUDE A BUSINESS, THAT WE ARE HAPPY TO SPEND THEIR MONEY.

WE'RE HAPPY TO SPEND THE SALES TAX REVENUE THAT WE GET FROM THEM, BUT WE'RE LEAVING THEM OUT OF THE. SO I WOULD PROBABLY SAY NOT TO HAVE AN EXCEPTION, BUT THAT WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO EDC FOR RECONSIDERATION. RIGHT. BECAUSE THIS IS THEIR POLICY THEY PUT FORWARD. OKAY, OKAY. I WANT TO COME BACK JUST BECAUSE EVERYBODY TALKED. MR. GANS, DO YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER POINTS? NO, JUST JUST. OKAY. MR. FOWLER, ANY FURTHER POINTS? YES. FOR NATHAN OR DREW, DID THE EDC, CDC RESEARCH ANY OTHER OPTIONS, OR IS THIS THE ONLY OPTION THAT THEY LOOKED AT? THEY LOOKED AT MAYBE SMALLER GRANTS FOR EVERY BUSINESS. MY CONCERN IS THAT 1 OR 2 OR A COUPLE BUSINESSES ARE GOING TO GET MAJORITY OF THIS, AND THE OTHER BUSINESSES REALLY AREN'T GOING TO GET ANY EFFECT OF THIS. YES, THEY DID CONSIDER A NUMBER OF OPTIONS. AND EVEN STARTING OUT BEFORE EVEN CONSIDERING THIS POSSIBILITY OF JUST DOING SOME PROMOTIONAL STUFF FOR THOSE BUSINESSES. BUT YEAH, THAT WAS ONE OF THE DIFFICULT DISCUSSIONS, IS WE'VE GOT SOME GOT A FEW BUSINESSES STRUGGLING. HOW DO YOU DECIDE WHICH ONES TO HELP AND HOW MUCH? AND THE ONES THAT ARE STRUGGLING SO MUCH THEY MAY GO OUT OF BUSINESS. HOW MUCH DO YOU REALLY WANT TO GIVE TO THEM DIRECTLY? IS IT ARE YOU THROWING GOOD MONEY AFTER BAD? IT FEELS LIKE IT'S SORRY. CARRY ON. SO? SO YES, THERE ARE A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS AROUND THIS AND I THINK FINALLY ARRIVED. IT WAS A IT WAS A NUMBER OF MEETINGS. YES, YES. AND THEY DID STRUGGLE OVER THERE HAVING SOME OF THE SAME ISSUES YOU DID AS THEY CRAFTED THIS. AND WITH EVERYTHING THERE'S TRADE OFFS AND THERE'S PROS AND CONS, AND THAT'S HOW THEY KIND OF ENDED UP AT THIS, THIS PROPOSAL TO YOU.

AND TO KIND OF GO BACK TO COUNCILOR HOLMES'S COMMENT ABOUT THE BUSINESS. I'M ACTUALLY IN FAVOR OF EXCLUDING BUSINESSES THAT I DON'T FEEL MEET THE NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY. I'M NOT FOR THE VAPE SHOPS. I'LL BE OPEN AND HONEST ABOUT THAT. I WORK IN EDUCATION. I SEE WHAT THOSE THINGS DO IN OUR TO OUR YOUNG KIDS, SO I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THAT EXCLUDED IF WE DO MOVE FORWARD. I'M NOT SAYING I WILL VOTE FOR THIS OR NOT, BUT I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE. ALL RIGHT. ONE LAST COMMENT IS THAT. OH, SORRY. ARE YOU. OH I GOT HERE AND GIVE EVERYBODY A FAIR TIME OKAY. THANK YOU DOCTOR SESSIONS ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO PICK WINNERS AND LOSERS. AND I'D RATHER DO IT FOR EVERY BUSINESS, INCLUDING OUT HERE ON 407, IF WE'RE GOING TO DO IT. JOSH. YEAH, I THINK PART OF, YOU KNOW, MAYBE SAVE PART OF IT FOR PROVIDING GUIDANCE TO THE EDC AND CDC, WHETHER IT'S APPROVED OR NOT APPROVED. BUT LIKE I DO LIKE IDEAS OF, YOU KNOW, IF WE DO REALLY BELIEVE THERE'S A HARDSHIP BECAUSE OF THIS, THEN MAYBE YOU DO. THEN PROPORTIONALLY LOOK AT A HARDSHIP GRANT OR SOMETHING AS PART OF THAT CONSTRUCTION OR, OR JUST A MARKETING GRANT THAT YOU WORK WITH THE MARKETING PROGRAM

[01:40:04]

IF IT'S FOR OTHER OPTIONS AND IDEAS, WE'D HAVE TO CRAFT THAT AND SEND THEM SUGGESTIONS. YES, FRANKLY, I'M GOING TO TAKE A GAMBLE HERE, AND I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION ON THIS BECAUSE I THINK GIVING BACK TO OUR RESIDENTS IN THESE HARDER ECONOMIC TIMES AND LETTING THEM CHOOSE THE BUSINESSES IS A PRETTY GOOD WAY TO SPEND OUR SALES TAX THAT WE CAN'T SPEND ON

[5.D. VOTE]

I'LL SECOND. MOTION. IN A SECOND. WE'LL HAVE A VOTE. ALL RIGHT. MOTION FAILS 2 TO 5.

DO SOMEBODY WANT TO MAKE ANY OTHER SUGGESTIONS? BACK TO CDC, EDC. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A SUGGESTION THAT WE BE PRESENTED WITH A COUPLE DIFFERENT OPTIONS VERSUS ONE. I'M NOT AGAINST THE GIFT CARDS. I JUST THINK, LIKE COUNSELOR SESSIONS SAID, I THINK IT'S TOO NARROW ON HOW DO WE GET MULTIPLE BUSINESSES I WOULD LIKE TO SEE. MAYBE IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE FIVE OPTIONS, BUT CAN WE HAVE SOMETHING OTHER THAN GIFT CARDS? SO WE CAN I CAN DETERMINE, IS THE GIFT CARD THE RIGHT CHOICE, OR IS THE GRANT THE RIGHT CHOICE OR WHATEVER OTHER OPTION? THE VARIOUS OPTIONS THAT THE BOARD ARGUED OVER FOR MULTIPLE MEETINGS. YOU WANT THEM TO BRING THOSE BACK TO YOU, AND YOU THEN MAKE THOSE THAT DECISION. THAT'S JUST MY SUGGESTION. I'M OPEN TO HEAR. I'M JUST I UNDERSTAND WHAT WE NEED TO TELL THE BOARD. YEAH, YEAH. FOR ME, I FEEL LIKE IT'S A REALLY GOOD IDEA. I JUST FEEL LIKE THERE WERE DETAILS MISSING THAT COULDN'T BE ANSWERED. TO GO AHEAD AND GO FORWARD WITH THIS.

THERE'S SOME QUESTIONS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN ANSWERED. PLEASE BE SPECIFIC. JUST JUST THOSE QUESTIONS. THE QUESTION WOULD BE WITH THE VAPE SHOP VERSUS 7-ELEVEN, WHAT YOU'RE ALLOWED TO PURCHASE WITH THOSE GIFT CARDS JUST ACROSS THE BOARD, LIKE, HOW ARE THEY GOING TO BE USED? SHOPS ARE EXCLUDED. AND THEIR PROPOSAL TO YOU, THE OTHER ONES ARE OPEN. IT IS UP TO THE BUSINESS TO DECIDE WHAT THEY WILL ACCEPT THAT FOR. SO BUT YOU WANT YOU WANT MORE. YOU WANT A OPTIONS ON 7-ELEVEN FOR EXAMPLE. WHAT MY QUESTION IS IF THEY ARE SELLING THE SAME. I MEAN, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH IT. I DON'T PURCHASE IT MYSELF. BUT AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, IF THE SAME THING IS BEING SOLD IN 7-ELEVEN, BUT WE'RE NOT ALLOWING ANOTHER BUSINESS EXCLUDE. SO YOU WANT SOME EXCLUSIONS FOR WHAT CAN BE SOLD. YEAH, I THAT'S WHERE I JUST HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT LIKE, I JUST DON'T FEEL LIKE IT'S HARD FOR US TO BE REALLY HARD FOR US, BUT WE'LL YEAH, WE'LL THAT WAS ANOTHER THING THAT WAS DISCUSSED ABOUT BEER. YEAH. WELL THERE BEER IS BAD AS A VAPE. YEAH.

THAT WAS ANOTHER THING THAT WAS DISCUSSED. AND WE LEFT IT OPEN TO THE BUSINESS TO DECIDE. THE THING WITH BOMBAY VAPORS IS THAT'S THE ONLY THING THEY SELL 7-ELEVEN. THEY SELL MULTIPLE. I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD GET DOWN IN THE WEEDS ON WHAT SOMEONE CAN BUY OR NOT BUY. I MEAN, AND I THINK I CREATED THAT COMPLICATION THAT'S GETTING GETTING A LITTLE TOO MUCH. I THINK THAT WAS PART OF THE BOARD DISCUSSION. SO I THINK WE EITHER DO IT OR WE DON'T DO IT, BUT THAT IF WE DO IT NOT TO PUT TONS OF BARRIERS ON IT. AND I UNDERSTAND THE, THE THAT IT WAS THEIR CHOICE TO HAVE THE EXCLUSION. YEAH. THAT'S RIGHT. AND I THINK IF IT'S A, IF THE TOWN AND THE, YOU KNOW, THESE, THESE TWO GROUPS HAVE SEEN THE DATA THAT IT ACTUALLY YOU KNOW, THEY'RE SEEING THAT IT SHOWS A HARDSHIP FOR THOSE BUSINESSES BECAUSE OF THIS CONSTRUCTION.

[01:45:01]

IT'S OVER. UNLESS SOMEBODY WHO VOTED NO WANTS TO COME BACK IS THE ONLY RULE OF ORDER WE CAN IMPLEMENT THERE. BUT WE GOTTA GIVE THEM DIRECTION. APPARENTLY. APPARENTLY THEY'RE NOT DOING WHAT THE COUNCIL WANTS THEM TO DO. WE'VE KIND OF TOLD THEM THAT SEVERAL TIMES ON SEVERAL DIFFERENT ISSUES FROM, YOU KNOW, REIMBURSEMENT AND REFUNDING OR THE DISSOLUTIONS OF THE GRANT PROGRAM, THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT WE'RE NOT SENDING THEM CLEAR MESSAGES. AND IS OUR JOB AS A COUNCIL TO SEND THEM CLEAR MESSAGES. SO I NEED SOME REAL THOUGHT LEADERSHIP GIVEN BACK TO THE BOARDS SO THAT THEY CAN PRODUCE SOMETHING THAT WILL SATISFY AT LEAST MOST OF COUNCIL AND SOMETHING TO CONSIDER THAT WE WILL. YOU KNOW, WE'LL MISS THE SEPTEMBER OCTOBER BECAUSE OF THE ADVERTISEMENT. SO THIS WILL AND THE BOARDS ONLY MEET ON ODD NUMBER MONTHS UNLESS THEY CALL A SPECIAL MEETING. SO THEY'RE REGULAR MEETINGS NOT TILL SEPTEMBER. SO AND THEN THE COMING BACK SCHEDULING BACK TO COUNCIL AND THEN HAVING THAT ADVERTISEMENT THE THIS COULD POSSIBLY BE DECEMBER, JANUARY 1ST 14 COULD BE OPEN. YEAH. YEAH. SO WE'RE WE'LL FIX THE PROBLEM BY NOT SOLVING IT FOR LONG ENOUGH THAT IT FIXES ITSELF. I THINK WHAT IF I WAS GOING TO GIVE GUIDANCE BACK? I'D PROBABLY SAY THAT THE GENERAL INTENT OF THE GIFT CARD PROGRAM IS GOOD, AND THAT I THINK A GRANT, SOMETHING THAT'S LIKE A GRANT WHERE WE REALLY ARE JUST WRITING A CHECK TO INCENTIVIZE THE BUSINESS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT I'M PARTICULARLY INTERESTED IN SEEING, BUT THAT I WOULD SAY IF THE IDEA OF GETTING TRAFFIC MOVING AND ALL OF THAT STUFF WITH THE GIFT CARDS IS, WAS THE INTENT OF IT TO COME BACK WITH WHAT THEY THINK IS, YOU KNOW, MORE CONVINCING OR BETTER, YOU KNOW, BETTER. AND I'M SORRY, MAYOR, TO JOSH'S POINT ABOUT PATHS, WE DID YOU DID AWARD OLYMPIC PLAZA. SO THAT'S GOING TO HELP WITH SOME CIRCULATION.

THAT WE HAVE INCREASED THE LANES ON FORMERLY DALE EARNHARDT WAY NOW CLEVELAND GIBBS. SO THERE'S SOME CIRCULATION THERE. WE'RE WAITING ON TEXDOT. AND YOU'VE ALREADY BEEN GRIPED OUT ABOUT TRYING TO MAKE TEXDOT DO SOMETHING. THERE'LL BE A THERE'LL BE A TEXAS TURNAROUND ON BOTH SIDES SO THAT THE PATH THING THAT YOU THE IDEA YOU HAD I THAT'S ANOTHER PEOPLE'S HANDS AND SOME OF OUR PROJECTS SO THAT'S GOING TO THAT'LL WORK ITSELF OUT EVENTUALLY. SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT A PIN IN THAT THOUGHT THERE. I WOULD I WOULD ALSO ADD TO YOUR POINT, COUNCIL MEMBER PIZZUTO IS LOOKING AT ALL THE BUSINESSES IN NORTHLAKE. THAT WOULD BE MY FEEDBACK, AS WELL AS NOT JUST THE 114 SECTION, BUT I SEE IT EVEN ON ON ROPES AND RANCH IN NORTHLAKE, BUSINESSES BEING AFFECTED BY THE CONSTRUCTION OR LACK OF OTHER BUSINESSES THAT ARE THERE. SO IF WE'RE GOING TO LOOK, I WOULD RATHER SEE ALL THE BUSINESSES INCLUDED. SORRY, MAYOR, IS THIS A I MEAN, THAT THAT IS A DIRECTION AND THAT IS AN EASY THAT IS A DIRECTION. AND WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY, I KNOW YOU'RE WAITING TO SPEAK THERE, COUNCILOR FOWLER, IF THAT IS A DIRECTION THAT COUNCIL WOULD FEEL A LITTLE MORE COMFORTABLE WITH, WE CAN ASK THEM TO HOLD SPECIAL MEETINGS AND BRING THIS BACK QUICKER. IF THAT'S A PATH THAT YOU GUYS WANT TO REALLY SERIOUSLY CONSIDER, WE CAN ASK STAFF AND THOSE BOARDS TO BRING THAT BACK OUT OF CYCLE AND MAYBE AFFECT THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE QUICKLY, LIKE A GIFT CARD PROGRAM THAT INCLUDES THE OTHER SALES TAX BUSINESSES IN NORTHLAKE FOR THE FOR THE WHOLE TOWN. YEAH. FOR EVERY EVERY NORTHLAKE BUSINESS, I LIKE IT. AND THEN THE MARKET AGAIN, RETAIL AND RESTAURANT BUSINESSES NOT SERVICES. YEAH I THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY IS I WOULD PREFER OPEN UP TO EVERYBODY BECAUSE AS SOMEBODY SAID I CAN'T REMEMBER WHO IT WAS. THE MARKET IS GOING TO DICTATE ANYWAY WHERE THEY WANT TO GO. YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK THESE GIFT CARDS ARE REALLY GOING TO DETERMINE IF

[01:50:04]

YEAH. AMENDING BUDGETS, THE EASY PART. SO I FEEL SUPPORT FROM CHAIR ONE. CHAIR TWO. NO. MR. GANS, DO YOU HAVE ANY INPUT FOR DIRECTION MOVING FORWARD OR ARE YOU JUST OUT? OKAY. MR. FOWLER, DO YOU WANT THEM TO MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION? INCLUDE ALL BUSINESSES I WOULD PREFER. I WOULD PREFER IF ALL BUSINESSES WERE INCLUDED. IF WE WERE GOING TO DO THIS. OKAY. I WOULD PROBABLY SUPPORT THAT AS WELL. MAYOR PRO TEM. YEAH, I YES, I MEAN AT LEAST EXPLORING. OKAY.

DOCTOR SESSIONS, IF WE'RE GOING TO DO IT, WE OUGHT TO DO IT FOR EVERYONE. BUT I'D PREFER NOT TO DO IT. OKAY. BUT I, I DON'T THINK THOSE BIDS ARE GOING TO SUCCEED ANYWAY BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC IS GOING TO BE WHIZZING BY THEM AT 65 OR 70 MILES AN HOUR A YEAR FROM NOW. AND ALL WE'VE DONE IS THROW AWAY MONEY KEEPING THEM ALIVE. THOSE ACCESS ROADS WILL STILL EXIST AND THEY WILL BE EASIER ON AND OFF. NOW, I'M OPPOSED TO A GIFT CARD PROGRAM, WHETHER IT'S FOR ALL OR. OKAY, WELL IT SOUNDS IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE AT LEAST ENOUGH FOR GENERAL CONSENSUS TO IF THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK AT LET'S LOOK AT FOR THE ENTIRE TOWN. IS THAT WHAT YOU HEARD AS WELL, STAFF OKAY. THAT'S MY DIRECTION TO STAFF. THAT'S MY DIRECTION TO STAFF THEN THREE FOUR MAYBES. YEAH I THINK THAT'S THE BEST PATH FORWARD IF, IF IT'S GOING TO GET APPROVED. SO LET'S HAVE THEM DO THAT COUNSELOR. DO WE INCLUDE EXCLUSIONS OR NOT? I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD. I THINK THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO SPEND THEIR SALES TAX MONEY, WE SHOULD INCLUDE THEM IN AN INCENTIVE PROGRAM THAT GIVES PEOPLE TO SPEND MONEY. OKAY, I'M FOR SOME EXCLUSIONS. OKAY. NO.

NO EXCLUSIONS. IF IT WENT THROUGH WITH OR WITHOUT EXCLUSIONS. WITHOUT EXCLUSIONS, MAYBE THEY CAN DRAFT IT IN A WAY THAT COUNCIL CAN DECIDE YES OR NO EXCLUSIONS. THEY MAY BE ABLE TO DRAFT IT THAT WAY I DON'T KNOW. ALL RIGHT STAFF GOOD LUCK WITH THAT. WE GAVE YOU SUPER CLEAR DIRECTION. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. HOLD ON A SECOND. YES. YES WE HAVE. WE HAD A FAILED VOTE AND THEN WE JUST HAVE SOME DIRECTION. YEAH. SO THEY'LL THEY'LL WATCH THE VIDEO AND THEY'LL UNDERSTAND. AND STAFF CAN UPDATE THEM. YES. AND SO THERE'S NO NEED FOR ACTION ON E AND F. DO THEY NEED A TABLE OR JUST NOT ACT. NO ACTION. NO ACTION. YES. NO ACTION WILL BE

[Items 5.E. & 5.F.]

[5.G. Consider approval of a Resolution of the Town of Northlake, Texas, expressing intent to reimburse certain Town of Northlake expenditures from the proceeds of debt obligations to be issued in the future]

[01:55:07]

[5.G. VOTE]

MOTION CARRIES 6 TO 1. ALL RIGHT. TONIGHT WE WILL HAVE ACTION COMING OUT OF EXECUTIVE

[6. EXECUTIVE SESSION]

[7. RECONVENE INTO OPEN SESSION]

PERMANENT UTILITY EASEMENT ON PROPERTY SITUATED IN THE A MCDONALD SURVEY ABSTRACT NUMBER 785 NORTH LAKE. PORTION OF THAT TRACT OF LAND CONVEYED TO NORTH LAKE BIBLE CHURCH, INCORPORATED AS RECORDED IN THE INSTRUMENT NUMBER 2020 TWO. DASH 16295 FOR OFFICIAL RECORD. COUNTY, TEXAS.

FURTHER DESCRIBED AND OUTLINED ON EXHIBIT EXHIBIT A OF TWO SAID RESOLUTION FOR THE PUBLIC USE IN CONSTRUCTION AND MAINTENANCE OF THE SANITARY SEWER FACILITY IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT AT FORT ROAD IN FARM TO MARKET 407, AND I FURTHER MOVED TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION NUMBER 25 DASH 59 AS PRESENTED. THANK YOU. DO I HAVE A SECOND? YOU DON'T HAVE TO REPEAT THE WHOLE PHRASE. I'LL SECOND. I HAVE A SECOND FROM. I DON'T KNOW WHY I'M GIGGLING HERE. I HAVE A SECOND. LET'S VOTE. I THINK YOU SHOULD HAVE READ IT SO YOU WON'T BE INTEGRATED AGAIN. YOU WANT ME TO ASK ME TO READ AGAIN, RIGHT? YEAH. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSL. 7 TO 0 ACTION. WITH THAT, IT IS 8:

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.