Nov 13, 2025 Town Council

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GOT OUT, I COULDN'T EVEN REMEMBER WHAT FLOOR I WAS ON IN THE PARKING. ALL RIGHT. GOOD

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

[2.A. Reports and Updates from the Mayor and Town Councilmembers Concerning Items of Community Interest (if necessary) ]

SO HE'S REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT IN THE FUTURE WHAT KIND OF PARTNERSHIPS HE CAN PROVIDE ON ROADS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SECONDARILY, WE HAD AN UPDATE STAKEHOLDERS MEETING THIS MONTH WHERE MISTER REDDIG AND OTHERS GAVE UPDATES ON THE. KIND OF THE STATUS OF THE SDC AND JUST THEIR FUNDING AND PROJECTS AND WHEN THINGS ARE COMING ONLINE. SO IT WAS GOOD THERE AS WELL.

AND THE ONLY OTHER THING COUNCIL ACTION THAT WE HAD PREVIOUSLY WAS THE STORMWATER FEES. I PROBABLY TOOK 5 TO 10 CALLS FROM CITIZENS ON THAT, WONDERING WHAT'S THIS NEW FEE ON OUR BILLS? AND EVEN THOUGH WE PROVIDE PACKAGE INSERTS IN THE WATER BILLS AND EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN THOSE, BUT THEY WERE GENERALLY, YOU KNOW, THEY UNDERSTOOD WHERE WE CAME FROM AND DOING THIS UNFUNDED MANDATE AND HOW WE FUNDED IT. SO FEEDBACK WAS ACTUALLY PRETTY POSITIVE AT THE END OF THE DAY. SO THANK YOU, COUNCIL, FOR THOSE DECISIONS. ANYONE ELSE ALL RIGHT WITH THAT. WE ARE ITEM B AND C. WE ARE SKIPPING THIS EVENING. AND ITEM D WE'LL

[2.D. Briefing - Vehicle Leasing Program ]

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EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN. BUT WE ARE WE ARE BORN AND RAISED HERE IN TEXAS. AND SO THAT REALLY MATTERS TO A LOT OF PEOPLE WITH OVER 45 YEARS OF JUST EXPERIENCE IN THE LEASING INDUSTRY IN THE WORLD, DAMN IS THE LARGEST LEASING FOR CONSUMER. THAT'S WHERE DAMN KIND OF STARTED WITH JUST THE INDIVIDUALS AND SLOWLY BUT SURELY MOVED INTO COMMERCIAL LEASING. AND NOW WE DO FOR THE LAST TEN YEARS, GOVERNMENT LEASING. AND SO THAT'S WHERE JERRY AND I COME INTO PLAY IS GOVERNMENT LEASING, MUNICIPALITIES, SCHOOLS, THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THAT KIND OF WORLD AND REALLY THE PROCUREMENT MADE EASY. WE'RE ON ALL THE DIFFERENT KIND OF CO-OPS. BEING ON THE CO-OPS IS NOT AN EASY TASK TO BE ABLE TO GET THROUGH ALL THE PAPERWORK AND KIND OF JUMP THROUGH ALL THE HOOPS, BUT WE TAKE PRIDE IN MAKING SURE THAT WE ALIGN WITH ALL THOSE CO-OPS WE ARE ON BY BOARD. SOURCEWELL CHOICE PARTNERS TIPS TEXAS. SO THE KIND OF THE THE MANPOWER THAT IT TAKES TO BE ON THOSE IS THE SAME KIND OF QUALITY THAT THAT CITIES GET FROM US AS KNOWING HOW TO DO THESE LEASES VERY WELL TO WHERE THAT YOU GUYS ARE IN LINE WITH GOVERNMENT LEASING. SUMMARY OF SERVICES. WE HANDLE EVERYTHING. WE ARE A FLEET MANAGEMENT COMPANY. WE'RE JUST NOT SOMEBODY THAT KIND OF LEASES THE VEHICLE TO YOU. IT SAYS WE'LL SEE YOU IN THREE YEARS. WHEN THE VEHICLES DO, WE SEE EVERYTHING FROM THE ACQUISITION TO FINANCING. WE'VE GOT FUEL PROGRAMS, MAINTENANCE PROGRAMS AND EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN. WE KIND OF BE ABLE TO COME TO THE TOWN OF NORTH LAKE AND SAY, HEY, WHAT IS IT THAT YOU ALL NEED? AND KIND OF PACKAGE IT TO WHERE IT MAKES SENSE FOR YOU GUYS FINANCIALLY AND REALLY HELPS THE CITY THRIVE. THE WAY THAT WE DO THINGS FOR THE TOWN OF NORTH LAKE MIGHT LOOK COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FROM ANOTHER CITY, BECAUSE HOW YOU GUYS OPERATE, HOW YOUR VEHICLES ARE OPERATING, IT'S COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN YOUR NEIGHBORS OF EITHER JUSTIN, SAGINAW OR ANYTHING ELSE. SO EVERYTHING IS KIND OF CUSTOM PACKAGED TO WHAT MAKES SENSE FOR YOU ALL. AND THEN NOT ONLY ACQUISITION OF THE VEHICLE, BUT HEY, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE VEHICLE GETS TURNED IN? WE HANDLE EVERYTHING FROM DISPOSITION TO KIND OF STRIPPING THE VEHICLE DOWN, TAKING IT TO THE AUCTION, AND WE'RE JUST KIND OF COMING ALONGSIDE YOU ALL TO KIND OF LET YOU KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT IN THE PROCESS, WHAT IS HAPPENING, AND JUST KIND OF KEEPING YOU UP TO DATE ON THE VEHICLE PROCESS.

SO WE ARE COMPLETELY FLEET MANAGEMENT. WHAT WE WANT TO DO SOMETIMES IS BE ABLE TO COME TO THE CITY, SIT DOWN WITH THE TEAM AND BE ABLE TO KIND OF GIVE OUR RECOMMENDATION. WHEN

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THEY'RE IN. THEY'RE IN IT TO MAKE MONEY. AND SO WHAT WE TRY TO DO IS SAY, HEY, HOW IS YOUR VEHICLE? HOW'S YOUR FLEET BEING UTILIZED? HOW MANY MILES ARE YOU GUYS DOING A YEAR? WHAT IS IT THE VEHICLE IS BEING USED FOR AND HAVE A TRUE UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT EACH VEHICLE IS BEING USED FOR AND BE LIKE, OKAY, BASED ON OUR RECOMMENDATIONS, OUR KNOWLEDGE OF THE INDUSTRY, HERE'S AN OPTIMAL TIME OF GETTING OUT AT 36 MONTHS, 48 OR MAYBE EVEN 60.

WELL, WE TRY TO DO IS MAKE SURE THAT IT MAKES SENSE FINANCIALLY AND NOT JUST KIND OF PUT YOU IN A COOKIE CUTTER BOX AND SAY, HEY, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT YOU TO DO, MORE SO THAN, HEY, DOES THIS MAKE SENSE FOR YOU? SO WE WORK WITH YOU AND WORK WITH EACH TEAM, EACH DEPARTMENT, WHATEVER IT IS TO MAKE SURE THAT IT MAKES SENSE. AGAIN. ACQUISITION. WE CAN FACTORY ORDER, WHICH IS USUALLY THE BEST OPTION WE ORDER FROM ANY MANUFACTURER. BUT IF A CITY IS IN A PREDICAMENT AND NEEDS A VEHICLE RIGHT NOW, DAM OWNS THEIR OWN DEALERSHIPS AND WE CAN PULL VEHICLES FROM ACROSS THE COUNTRY TO MAKE SENSE TO MAKE SURE THINGS ARE STREAMLINED VERY QUICKLY. SO IF A VEHICLE GETS INTO AN ACCIDENT AND YOU NEED VEHICLE RIGHT NOW, A LOT OF TIMES WE CAN TURN THAT IN A VERY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME BECAUSE WE HAVE THAT AVAILABILITY. OWNING OUR OWN DEALERSHIPS, ANY KIND OF GOVERNMENT INCENTIVES, ALL OF THOSE THINGS GET PASSED STRAIGHT DOWN TO THE TOWN OF NORTH LAKE. ALL OF THOSE ARE PASS THROUGH. AND SO, LIKE CAPTAIN COLEMAN WAS TALKING ABOUT ORDER TIMING. WE ARE VERY PROACTIVE. SO WE'RE ALWAYS COMING AND MAKING SURE WHAT IS IT THAT THE NEEDS OF THE TOWN ARE AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE AHEAD OF EVERYBODY ELSE. WE DON'T TRY TO WAIT TILL THE LAST MINUTE. WE'RE WE'RE MONTHS AHEAD OF TIME TO MAKE SURE, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO ORDER THIS MANY VEHICLES FOR THE TOWN AND MAKE SURE WE GET IN BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF FIRST IN, FIRST OUT KIND OF MENTALITY. WHY AGENCIES A LOT OF AGENCIES CHOOSE US. AGAIN, WE ARE TEXAS BASED. I KIND OF TALKED ABOUT A LOT OF THE CO-OPS. ONE THING THAT REALLY MAKES US STAND OUT IS THE CUSTOMIZED PROGRAM. THAT'S A BIG DEAL FOR PEOPLE JUST NOT TO BE ABLE TO FIT IN A CERTAIN BOX. RIGHT SIZING YOUR FLEET. A LOT OF TIMES CITIES JUST USE VEHICLES JUST BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY USE AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'VE ALWAYS USED. WE TRY TO COME IN WITH OUR EXPERTISE TO SAY, HEY, DOES THIS VEHICLE REALLY MAKE SENSE FOR HOW IT'S BEING USED IN THIS DEPARTMENT? AND IF NOT, HERE'S A RECOMMENDATION THAT WILL SAVE ON MONEY, MAYBE SAVE ON FUEL, AND REALLY BE ABLE TO OPTIMIZE FOR THAT ABILITY. SO WE KIND OF COME IN WITH THAT. GOOD THING TOO IS THERE'S NO MINIMUM. SO YOU CAN LEASE JUST ONE WITH DAM AND LET US EARN THE RIGHT TO LEASE THE REST OF YOUR FLEET. OR YOU CAN DO YOUR ENTIRE FLEET, WHATEVER YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE TO START OFF WITH YOU OWN. THERE'S NO MONEY DOWN. NOTHING IS REQUIRED UPFRONT. LIKE YOU SAID, ALL THE UP FITS, EVERYTHING CAN BE ROLLED RIGHT INTO THE STRUCTURE SO YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT IS THAT YOU'RE PAYING FOR. WHAT IS IT GOING TO LOOK LIKE FOR THE LIFE OF THE TERM? EVERYTHING IS VERY OPEN, TRANSPARENT WHEN YOU SEE THE KIND OF STRUCTURES. SOME COMMONLY ANSWERED QUESTIONS. BIG THING IS A LOT OF TIMES WE GET ASKED, HEY, WHAT ABOUT MILEAGE? I USED TO LEASE GET DINGED FOR EVERY MILE THAT I GO OVER. YOU KNOW, ANY KIND OF DENT WAS GOING TO THAT IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN GOVERNMENT LEASING. WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THESE VEHICLES ARE GOING TO BE USED FOR, ESPECIALLY LET'S JUST SAY, YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, WE KNOW THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE TAGGED OUT. WE KNOW THAT THEY MIGHT BE, I DON'T KNOW, IN A PURSUIT, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WE TAKE ALL THOSE THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION TO REALLY MAKE SENSE THAT WHEN THESE VEHICLES ARE TURNED IN, THEY STILL HAVE VALUE. WHEN THEY GO TO THE AUCTION, THERE IS NO MILEAGE RESTRICTION. SO YOU CAN FEEL SAFE TO BE KNOW IF THEY GO OVER, YOU'RE NOT GETTING PENALIZED FOR ANY OF THAT. LIKE I SAID, NO WEAR AND TEAR CLAUSE, NO MINIMUM, NO MINIMUM REQUIRED. EVERYTHING IS ROLLED INTO YOUR STRUCTURE. SO IT'S VERY EASY. YOU CAN DO MONTHLY OR ANNUAL PAYMENTS. SO REALLY IT IS JUST COMING TO YOU GUYS AND SAY, HEY, WHAT IS IT THAT MAKES SENSE FOR YOU? AND HOW DO WE STRUCTURE IT? WE WE DELIVER IT VERY TURNKEY VEHICLES. SO WHEN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OR YOUR PUBLIC WORKS OR WHOEVER GETS THE VEHICLE, THEY REALLY DON'T NEED TO DO ANYTHING UNLESS THEY SPECIFICALLY WANT TO DO SOMETHING TO IT. WHEN IT GETS DELIVERED, IT'S READY TO GO AND BE AND BE DRIVEN. AND AGAIN, DRIVING THROUGH ALL THE DIFFERENT BRANDS AND CO-OPS, WE HAVE OUR OWN, LIKE I SAID, DEALERSHIPS. WE HAVE OUR OWN FINANCING DEPARTMENT. WHAT WE TRY TO DO AS MUCH IN-HOUSE SO THAT EVERYTHING IS STREAMLINED AS QUICKLY AND AS EFFICIENTLY AS POSSIBLE. IT ALSO REALLY WORKS OUT WELL BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE ANY PROBLEMS OR ISSUES, IT'S A ONE STOP ON THE MAIN POINT OF CONTACT FOR THE FOR THE TOWN OF NORTH LAKE AND BE ABLE TO ANSWER THOSE KINDS OF QUESTIONS, WHETHER IT'S THE VEHICLE, THE FINANCING PORTION, TITLING, WHATEVER IT IS THAT YOU ALL HAVE, WE'RE ABLE TO TO GET THAT ANSWER FOR YOU. AND THEN I DON'T KNOW WHY THERE'S A PICTURE OF ME, BUT THERE'S BOTH OF US RIGHT THERE. SO WE ARE BASED IN FORT WORTH. THAT'S OUR THAT'S OUR HOME OFFICE WHERE WE BOTH WORK. THE GOVERNMENT TEAM WORKS. AND REALLY THAT IS KIND OF LEASING IN THE SENSE OF WHAT WE DO, HOW WE DO IT AND HOW WE

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THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. OH MICROPHONE FOR THE POLICE. OUR LARGEST CLIENT IS DPS. OKAY, THAT'LL THAT'LL DO. WHAT HE SAID IS THAT OUR LARGEST CLIENT FOR THE STATE OF TEXAS DPS, WE HANDLE THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF SAFETY VEHICLES. THEY HAVE A FEW VEHICLES. SO THEY DO. I'D SAY THAT COUNTS. I GOT A QUICK QUESTION. YOU SAID THEIR MILEAGE IS UNLIMITED? PRETTY MUCH. AND THEN WHEN THEY TURN THEM IN AT THE 48, 52 MONTHS, OBVIOUSLY IF THE VEHICLE HAS A NEGATIVE EQUITY OR DEPRECIATION, DOES THAT GET ROLLED INTO THE NEXT LEASE? YES. SO THE PRICE COULD GO UP. THE PRICE COULD. YES. THE NEXT THE NEXT TIME WE DO ANOTHER LEASE FOR 48 MONTHS.

YES. CORRECT. TO ANSWER YOUR SHORT QUESTION, YES. NOW WE'RE REALLY GOOD ABOUT KNOWING WHAT THESE VEHICLES SELL FOR AT AUCTION. AND THEN EVEN WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WE MAY EVEN DROP THE RESIDUAL JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT THEY MIGHT USE THE VEHICLE.

I WILL SAY THAT IN MY PERSONAL THAT HASN'T HAPPENED YET, BECAUSE WE REALLY PLAY ON THE CONSERVATIVE SIDE WITH THE STRUCTURE AND THEY WILL KNOW. BUT IF THERE IS ANY NEGATIVE EQUITY, YES, THE TOWN IS KIND OF RESPONSIBLE FOR IT OR WE ROLL IT INTO THE NEXT VEHICLE.

OKAY. SO I GUESS WITHIN THAT TOO, I'M FAMILIAR WITH FLEET PROGRAMS TO WHERE THEY YOU'LL TYPICALLY REVIEW THEM ON AN ANNUAL BASIS WITH SOMEBODY ON THE TEAM. AND DOES THIS ALLOW FOR YOU LIKE OTHER FLEET PROGRAMS TO MOVE THAT DATE, WHETHER IT'S IDEALS FOR YEARS TO TRADE IT IN OR CHANGE TO IF THERE'S MORE MILEAGE TO WHERE THAT LINE PULLS UP, AND THEN THAT WAY YOU GET A POSITIVE EQUITY OR YES SIR. OKAY. YES. AND SO I WOULD BE THE MAIN POINT OF CONTACT EVEN FOR THE, FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OR THE TOWN OF NORTH LAKE. AND SO WE WILL HAVE LIKE EITHER JUST SEMIANNUALLY OR ANNUALLY, JUST KIND OF BE ABLE TO LOOK AT YOUR FLEET TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS IN LINE, MAKING SURE THERE'S NOT 1 OR 2 VEHICLES THAT ARE AN OUTLIER, THAT JUST HAVE TOO MANY MILEAGE AND BE ABLE TO, YES, HAVE THAT OPTION BE LIKE, HEY, THIS ONE IS ACTING FUNNY OR WEIRD. HEY, LET'S JUST START LOOKING AT IT. ROLL YOU OUT NOW BEFORE YOU END UP WITH NEGATIVE. SO YES, THERE ARE THOSE OPTIONS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE AHEAD OF IT BEFORE IT BECOMES AN ISSUE. OKAY. DO YOU FIND THAT THIS NORMALIZES THE CASH FLOW A LITTLE BIT INSTEAD OF JUST, YOU KNOW, ONE OFF CAR HERE, ONE OFF CAR THERE? DO YOU FIND IT HELPS NORMALIZE THAT CASH FLOW FOR A TOWN. IT YES, SIR. BECAUSE YOU WILL KNOW WHAT YOUR VEHICLES EXPENSE IS GOING TO BE FOR THE NEXT 36, 60 MONTHS. YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR PAYMENTS ARE GOING TO BE. IT'S EASY TO BUDGET. EVERYTHING IS ROLLED IN AND YOU'LL KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE SPENDING ON THE COST OF THAT VEHICLE. SO AND BASED ON YOUR PRELIMINARY ANALYSIS AND WORKING WITH WITH CAPTAIN, WHAT DO YOU VIEW OUR INITIAL SAVINGS TO BE? DO YOU. I DON'T HAVE

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BECAUSE INSTEAD OF US PAYING IT ALL AT ONCE, WE'RE PAYING THE LEASE PAYMENTS. AND THEN AT THE END, WHATEVER IS THE VEHICLES WORTH, WE CAN EITHER ROLL THAT INTO OUR NEXT LEASE OR WE TAKE THAT. AND IF WE DECIDE WE DON'T WANT TO LEASE AGAIN, WE GO BUY SOMETHING. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL. THANK YOU. COUNCIL, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? CAPTAIN COLEMAN, WERE YOU ABLE TO TALK WHAT YOU DON'T WERE YOU ABLE TO TALK TO OTHER AGENCIES THAT DO THIS PROGRAM? I WAS I ACTUALLY TALKED TO THE FLEET MANAGER OF THE ABILENE POLICE DEPARTMENT. AND HE HAD THAT WAS THE DECIDING FACTOR OF LOOKING AT THIS FOR US. THEY ARE CONSIDERABLY BIGGER THAN WE ARE.

THEY HAD SOME SCENARIOS THAT WE MAY OR MAY NOT SEE WHERE THEY GOT INTO A SITUATION WHERE THEY NEEDED EXTRA CARS. THEY WERE ABLE TO GET THOSE CARS FROM D AND M GET THEM IN SERVICE TO THEIR DETECTIVES, AND WITHOUT HAVING TO DEAL WITH WHAT WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH, IS A LONG LEAD IN OF NOT ONLY GETTING THE CARS, BUT THEN GETTING THE CARS OUTFITTED. THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE YOU COMING OUT HERE

[2.E. Briefing - Fiscal Year 2025 Fourth Quarter Investment Report (July - September 2025) ]

[2.F. Briefing - Fiscal Year 2025 Fourth Quarter Financial Report (July - September 2025) ]

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WE AT THE TIME WE DID THE BUDGET, IF YOU ALL REMEMBER, WE GOT THAT INFORMATION AS WE WERE COMING OUT THE DOOR WITH THE BUDGET. SO IT'S NOT REFLECTED IN THERE, BUT WE'RE HOPING THAT WE GAVE ENOUGH OF A BUFFER TO KIND OF ACCOUNT FOR THAT. AND WE'RE HOPING AS WELL THAT WE WERE CONSERVATIVE ON OUR OTHER REVENUE ESTIMATES WITH SALES TAXES AND COURT FEES AND FINES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT IT MAKES UP ANY DIFFERENCE THAT OCCURS. OKAY. AND I BELIEVE I'M

[2.G. Briefing - Proposed Water and Wastewater Rates ]

YOU HAVE $3 MILLION MORE, 3 TO 4 MILLION. AND YOU SEE THESE TWO LINES. IN CONTRAST, THE

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RIGHT. THESE ARE YOUR RATES. I SAY IT EVERY COUNCIL MEETING. I LIVE IN MCKINNEY, TEXAS. I DO NOT KNOW THE RATES BECAUSE I DO NOT DO THEIR WORK. SO IF YOU DON'T KNOW YOUR RATES, THESE ARE THOSE. AGAIN YOU DO HAVE A METER EQUIVALENCY. SO THE CHARGES GO UP AS LARGER METERS.

GREAT POLICY. ADDITIONALLY YOU HAVE VOLUMETRIC TIERED AN INCLINING BLOCK RATE DIFFERENT SIGNALING FOR RESIDENTIAL THAN COMMERCIAL. SO YOU SEE THE DIFFERENT TIERS AS THAT WOULD ADJUST YOUR COMMERCIAL. IRRIGATION ACCOUNTS DO PAY MORE THAN THE RESIDENT. AGAIN ANOTHER COUNCIL BROTHERS AND COMMON PRACTICE THROUGHOUT THE STATE. WASTEWATER SIMILAR RIGHT.

WE HAVE THIS METER EQUIVALENCY. YOU ALSO HAVE A VOLUMETRIC RATE THAT'S FLAT. THERE'S A DIFFERENTIAL BETWEEN YOUR RESIDENTIAL AND YOUR COMMERCIAL. NOTABLY, YOUR RESIDENTS PAY BASED ON A WINTER AVERAGE AND COMMERCIAL PAYS ON ALL FLOWS OR ALL VOLUMES BILLED THROUGH WATER AS FLOWS. SO OUR DASHBOARD, THIS IS KIND OF THE BURNING PLATFORM WE TALK ABOUT EVERY YEAR. IF WE DON'T CHANGE RATES, WILL THIS WORK RIGHT. AND IT HOLDS FOR ABOUT A YEAR.

AND THEN TANKS BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF EXPENSES COMING. SO YOU'LL SEE JUST LEFT TO RIGHT REVENUES VERSUS EXPENSES. YOUR DEBT SERVICE COVERAGE RATIO BALANCE THERE. AND THE RESERVE BALANCE AT THE END MARKED. SO THE FACT THAT WE'RE BELOW THE FLOOR OR THE SOLID LINE ON EITHER OF THE TWO DIALS OR TWO METRICS IN THE MIDDLE AND TO THE RIGHT IS A BAD SIGNAL. SO SOME RATE ACTION WOULD BE NEEDED. HERE'S THAT RATE PLAN JUST VISUALIZED. SO A LITTLE REDUNDANT NOW. BUT AGAIN FIVE AND A HALF THEN 5.75. AND THEN THE LAST TWO YEARS 4% BASELINE INCREASES. ADDITIONALLY, JUST TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO THE FACT THAT THE STRUCTURE RIGHT, THE UNDERLYING WAY WE BUILD IS NOT JUST A 5.5% CHANGE, BUT THIS TOP TIER IN TWO YEARS WOULD BE PHASED IN FROM 1.75 TIMES THE FIRST RATE. SO 850 OF 480 IN THAT FIRST YEAR.

CURRENTLY, 26 HAS AN ADJUSTMENT AND THEN IN 27 IT WOULD BE TWO TIMES THE BASE RATE, I CAN TELL YOU. IN GEORGETOWN, TEXAS, WE RECENTLY TOOK THE THIRD AND FOURTH RATE, AND WE MADE THE FOURTH RATE TWO TIMES THE THIRD RATE AND THEN ADDED A FIFTH TIER, ADDING ANOTHER QUARTER PERCENT ON TOP OF THAT. SO THIS ISN'T THE STEEPEST SIGNAL. YOU'RE JUST BARELY BROACHING DOUBLE DIGITS AT THIS POINT. SO TO THAT END, I'VE SEEN HIGHER. NOT THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO BE THE HIGHEST, BUT THE TWO TIMES RATE IS NOT TWO TIMES THE SUBSEQUENT OR THE PRIOR TIER, BUT THAT OF THE FIRST BUILD CANALS. RIGHT. SO THAT'S ONE STRUCTURAL CHANGE THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING, I BELIEVE IN YOUR PACKET OR PERHAPS HANDOUTS. WE HAVE THE ENTIRE RATE SHEET IF YOU WANT TO SEE DETAILS. WE ALSO HAVE THE SUPPLEMENTAL SLIDES IF YOU'D LIKE IT.

MATTHEW ME BACK UP JUST A SECOND. SO WE'VE GOTTEN RID OF THE THE HIGH USAGE PENALTY. AND SO THIS IS PART TO COMPENSATE FOR THAT. AND THEN AND YOU GUYS KNOW THAT OUR SUBSCRIPTION RATE ESPECIALLY WITH UPPER TRINITY, IT'S THOSE PEAKS THAT THEY BILL US FOR. SO THIS IS TO HELP US CONTROL THOSE PEAKS DURING THE SUMMER. AND AND HOPEFULLY SIGNAL THOSE HIGH USERS TO CONSERVE DURING THOSE THOSE PEAK MONTHS. THANK YOU MATTHEW. GREAT POINT. ALL RIGHT. SO WE COME BACK TO THE SAME DASHBOARD. RIGHT NOW THE DIALS ARE WORKING. WE ARE FLIRTING WITH OUR DEBT SERVICE COVERAGE IN 2028 RIGHT THERE AT THE SKIN OF OUR TEETH. BUT THE PLAN WORKS. YOU SEE WE BUILD BACK EVEN WITH THAT REDUCTION TO INCREASE DOWN AT 4% IN THE LAST TWO YEARS. SO WE DIDN'T THINK WE NEEDED TO HOLD THE LINE AND PUSH EVEN HARDER IN 28. THAT IS THE GIST OF THIS SMOOTHING EFFECT THAT WE'RE AIMING FOR. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THE EBB AND FLOW, AND WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO RIDE THAT WITHOUT TOO MUCH CHANGE TO YOUR CUSTOMER. SO SO THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE. RESERVE BALANCE. SAME THING. WE'RE RIGHT AT 35%. THAT DOES BUILD BACK SLIGHTLY BY THE END OF THE FIVE YEAR HORIZON. RIGHT. SO WHAT DOES THAT REALLY LOOK LIKE TO THE AVERAGE RESIDENT OR A TYPICAL RESIDENT. THIS IS MORE AKIN TO THE MEDIAN I BELIEVE THE SAMPLE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY THAT JOHN SHOWED YOU WAS A SPECIFIC PLANNED DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY. THIS IS A BROADER SAMPLE OF YOUR COMMUNITY. SO TYPICAL WATER USE IS LIKE 8000 WITH A TYPICAL 5000. SO THIS IS MORE OF A MEDIAN THAN THE AVERAGE. BUT THAT BILL AT 157 TODAY GOES UP TO 166. AND THEN YOU SEE OVER TIME A BUILDING UP TO TWO 1190 BY YEAR FIVE. ANY

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SO YES, SIR. THAT IS I LOVE HOW YOU PRESENTED THIS DATA. I THINK IT'S REALLY COME TOGETHER OVER PAST FEW YEARS AND HOW WE GET THE DATA COUNCIL. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE FOR FOR HIM? I THINK WE NEED A SPECIAL DISCOUNT FOR FAMILIES WITH A BUNCH OF TEENAGE BOYS. YEAH.

JUST THROW THAT OUT THERE AGAIN. NO, NO, CERTAINLY YOU HAVE SOME MORE. I DO IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE THEM. WE ALSO HAVE SOME REGIONAL BILL COMPARISONS HERE. WE'RE STACKED UP AGAINST OUR NEIGHBORS. YOU'LL SEE THE ASTERISK IDENTIFIES THOSE CITIES THAT HAVE A WINTER AVERAGE. SO WE TRY TO DO LIKE FOR LIKE COMPARISONS. CURRENTLY YOU ARE AT THE TOP OF THE CHARTS. AS THE MAYOR POINTED OUT, THAT MAY PHASE OUT OVER TIME AS THE INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT COMES IN AS ADDITIONAL UNITS ARE COMPLETED. PERHAPS. I THINK I SAW SOME MULTIFAMILY COMING UP ON MY WAY IN. NOT US. OH, MISCHIEF. SORRY IT'S SO CLOSE THOUGH, DREW. SO CLOSE, SO CLOSE. WELL, AND THIS THIS IS A TENANT, THOUGH, OF A FAST GROWING TOWN, THOUGH TRADITIONALLY IT HAS TO BUILD THAT INFRASTRUCTURE. NEWER PRICINGS. RIGHT. AND ALSO, I'D LIKE TO KIND OF WARN THE COUNCIL CPI IS NOT GOING TO BE A GOOD INDICATOR. WATER AND SEWER OPERATIONAL COSTS ARE WILDLY DIFFERENT. YOU'RE VERY FIXED, COST INTENSIVE, SO YOU'RE MORE CONSTRUCTION, CAPITAL COST AND EVEN YOUR OPERATING EXPENSES. THERE'S ANOTHER METRIC IF YOU'RE INTO IT. IT'S FOR THE SAINT LOUIS FED. IT'S THE WATER SEWER TRASH INDICES. IT'S GOING TO LEAD MOST YEARS BY 75 BASIS POINTS OVER CPI. SO AGAIN, I HOPE YOU'RE AT 3% OR TWO AND A HALF. BUT BUT WHEN YOU COMPARE THIS IS ONE OF YOUR MORE EXPENSIVE ENTERPRISES AND ITS COST ARE CONSTANTLY GOING UP WITH CONCRETE AND STEEL AND ALL THE PRESSURES IN THE CONSTRUCTION WORLD, EVERY TIME YOU NEED TO COME BACK AND GIVE IT A FACELIFT. SO THOSE ARE SOME JUST A FEW NOTES. SO IN REGIONAL BILL COMPARISONS, THIS IS THAT TYPICAL USER RESIDENTIAL. THIS IS THAT HIGHER USER. WE DID ASSUME A LARGE VOLUME PUTTING A LOT ON THE LAWN MAYBE JULY AND AUGUST AND A WINTER AVERAGE FOR THIS CUSTOMER. SO ACTUALLY YOUR MIDDLE OF THE PACK TODAY MOVING UP THE CHARTS A BIT BECAUSE WE PUT MORE ON THAT TOP TIER. AND THEN WE ACTUALLY HAVE DETAILED SLIDES FOR EACH OF THE RATE PLANS. IF YOU REALLY WANT TO GET INTO IT, I WILL DEFER TO THE COUNCIL. IF I NEED TO SPEND ANY TIME ON THESE SLIDES A LITTLE DEEP. OKAY, FAIR ENOUGH, BUT IT'S ALL HERE IN YOUR PACKET SHOULD YOU WANT TO CONSIDER IT AGAIN. I DON'T BELIEVE THIS IS FOR ACTION.

JUST A WORKSHOP ITEM TONIGHT. SO GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE NOW OR THROUGH STAFF INDIRECTLY IF YOU HAVE IT. AFTER THIS MEETING, WE WANT TO GIVE YOU A MONTH TO ABSORB IT AND THINK ABOUT IT. YOU KNOW, TALK TO YOUR TALK TO YOUR NEIGHBORS. WE'LL HAVE AN ACTION ITEM IN DECEMBER, AND WE'LL GO EFFECTIVE AT THE BEGINNING OF 2020 6TH JANUARY. SO SO COUNCIL, ANY DIRECTION I'M PRETTY COMFORTABLE WITH THE DIRECTION THAT WE'VE TAKEN OVER PAST PAST COUPLE OF YEARS TO GET HERE. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY DIRECTION FOR THEM TO WORK ON BEFORE WE DO TAKE IT UP FOR CONSIDERATION? I THINK IT SEEMS PRETTY, PRETTY WELL CONSIDERED AND CONSERVATIVE TO COVER WHAT WE NEED, RIGHT? I THINK WE CAN MOVE AHEAD WITH THAT FOR ACTION NEXT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU FOR COMING TONIGHT AND SUFFERING YOUR WAY THROUGH THIS. IT'S OKAY. WE'RE HERE. THANKS. OKAY. THAT CONCLUDES OUR BRIEFINGS THIS EVENING. SO

[3. PUBLIC INPUT ]

I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THAT'S GOING TO BE ANY DIFFERENT. AND THE LEASING COMPANIES MAKING MONEY OFF OF US. SO HOW IS THAT GOING TO BE CHEAPER? YOU KNOW, UNLESS WE'RE DOING SOMETHING

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SAYS, QUOTE, THE PRESIDING OFFICER RESERVES THE RIGHT TO IMPOSE A TIME LIMIT ON THIS PORTION OF THE AGENDA. END QUOTE, BUT NONE IS SPECIFIED. I WOULD HOPE THAT THAT YOU GIVE CITIZENS AS MUCH TIME FOR REDRESS OF THEIR GOVERNMENT AS YOU GIVE DEVELOPERS TO ADDRESS COUNCIL. ON SEPTEMBER 4TH, 2024, THERE WAS AN ACCIDENT ON FM 407 AT THE S CURVE SOUTH OF MULKEY LANE. I NEEDED TO GET MY ELDERLY MOTHER HOME AFTER A PRIOR ER VISIT. A LITTLE BACKGROUND FOR YOU. EVERY SINGLE TIME THAT SOMEONE HAPPENS THAT SOMETHING HAPPENS ON THAT STRETCH OF FM 407 POLICE BLOCK ALL OF OUR NECESSARY ENTRANCES TO OUR PROPERTY, LOCATED ON BOTH SIDES OF FM 407, STARTING JUST SOUTH OF MULKEY LANE, SOUTHWARD TO THE OTHER SIDE OF DENTON CREEK. WE ARE COMPLETELY DENIED ACCESS. ONCE I GOT MOTHER SETTLED, I WALKED DOWN THE DRIVEWAY TO ASSESS DAMAGE TO OUR FENCES AS WE HAVE CATTLE IN NORTH LAKE.

NEVER ALERTS US TO A BREACH IN THE FENCE. DUE TO AN ACCIDENT. I WAS MET BY AN ANGRY OFFICER, DANIEL MARTINEZ, AT THE GATE, ACCUSING ME OF DRIVING AROUND A POLICE BLOCKADE, ACCUSING ME OF DO IT, DOING IT, QUOTE MULTIPLE TIMES, END QUOTE, AND FOLLOWED UP WITH AND I QUOTE, IF YOU DO IT AGAIN, YOU WILL GO TO JAIL. END QUOTE. IT SOUNDED LIKE A THREAT. I TOOK VIDEO OF IT AND CAN SHOW IT TO YOU AFTER THE MEETING IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE IT. HE ADDED AND I QUOTE YOUR NOT SPECIAL. I TOOK THIS AS A THREAT BECAUSE MR. MARTINEZ IS NOT AN EXPERT IN THE LAW, AND HE SEEMED ANGRY. IT APPEARED THAT HE WAS ALLEGEDLY GIVING ME LEGAL ADVICE. HOWEVER, I ASSUME NOT HAVING ATTENDED LAW SCHOOL OR PASSING THE BAR, HE WAS HANDING OUT INCOMPLETE LEGAL ADVICE, ALLEGEDLY, AND IT CAME ACROSS AS A THREAT. AFTER ALMOST A YEAR OF HEARINGS AND SCHEDULING MY COURT DATE, AND AFTER HAVING MY EMINENTLY QUALIFIED ATTORNEY, AN ACTUAL EXPERT IN THE LAW, COME TO THE TRIAL, THE JURY TRIAL ON JULY 7TH, 2025, AND SPEAK TO ANOTHER LEGAL EXPERT, NORTH LAKES JUDGE HARRIS HUEY. THE CHARGES WERE DROPPED BECAUSE I APPARENTLY WAS WITHIN THE LAW AND DANIEL MARTINEZ WAS WRONG. THIS WAS A COMPLETE WASTE OF TIME AND RESOURCES. I'VE MET MANY OFFICERS WHOM I BELIEVE ARE JUST THE KIND OF OFFICERS WE SHOULD HAVE IN NORTH LAKE, BUT HAVE CONCLUDED AFTER SEVERAL INTERACTIONS WITH DANIEL MARTINEZ. HE DOES NOT FIT THAT DESCRIPTION IN MY OPINION. ADDITIONALLY, I UNDERSTAND FROM CREDIBLE SOURCES THAT WE HAVE ALLEGEDLY BEEN TARGETED BY SOME AT NORTH LAKE. NOWHERE WAS THIS MORE CLEAR THAN WHEN OFFICER ALEX ARNOLD USED EXCESSIVE FORCE AND BROKE MY SISTER'S WRIST WHILE OUR FAMILY HOME BURNED TO THE GROUND? THIS ALLEGED TARGETING OF MY FAMILY AND ME, I'M SURE, HAS POLITICAL ORIGINS, BUT IT NEEDS TO STOP. I RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT IT DOES IMMEDIATELY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I CAN ASSURE YOU, NOBODY HERE ON COUNCIL NOR MYSELF HAS DIRECTED ANY POLICE ACTIONS TOWARDS YOU, MISS HAGERMAN. THAT'S A FACT. I DO NOT APPRECIATE THE INSINUATION. ANYBODY ELSE FOR PUBLIC HEARING THIS EVENING OR NOT? PUBLIC HEARING. PUBLIC COMMENT. ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT AND WE WILL

[4. CONSENT ITEMS ]

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[5.A. Consider approval of a Resolution of the Town of Northlake, Texas, casting votes for candidates in the Election of the Denton Central Appraisal District Board of Directors ]

[5.A. VOTE ]

DO I HAVE A DIFFERENT MOTION OR ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO WEIGH IN? I NEED SOME SORT OF ACTION HERE. IS THAT ONE GUY THAT CAN MAKE ANOTHER MOTION RIGHT? YOU SURE CAN. THEN I MOTION THAT WE GIVE ALL SIX OF OUR VOTES TO MIKE. JENNIFER. OKAY, I HAVE A MOTION FOR ALL SIX VOTES TO MAKE. JENNIFER. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. I HAVE A SECOND FROM MR. PIZZUTO. I'LL TAKE A VOTE ON THAT HERE IN JUST A SECOND.

ALL RIGHT. THAT MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. SO, MR. HEFNER, JENNIFER WILL

[5.B. Consider approval of an Ordinance of the Town of Northlake, Texas, amending Subsection C, "Powers of the Board," of Section 3.4, "Board of Adjustment," of Chapter 9A, "Unified Development Code," and Article 4.04, "Dangerous Buildings," of Chapter 4, "Building Regulations," of the Code of Ordinances, Town of Northlake, Texas, by creating a Building and Standards Commission and authorizing the Board of Adjustment to hear and determine cases concerning violations of health and safety ordinances and dangerous and substandard buildings pursuant to Texas Local Government Code Ch. 54 and Ch. 214 - Case # 25-UDC00001 ]

[00:55:04]

ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF BEFORE WE ENTER PUBLIC HEARING? WE'RE GOING TO START GOING AROUND TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE BARNS AND TELL THEM HOW TO RUN THEIR BARNS. NO, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S THE INTENT. THE ORDINANCE MENTIONS SUBSTANDARD BUILDINGS, BUT HOW WOULD YOU DETERMINE IF ONE IS SUBSTANDARD WITHOUT AN INSPECTION? AND WHAT WOULD DRIVE AN INSPECTION? SO THEY'RE USUALLY VISUAL CLUES FROM THE FROM THE OUTSIDE THAT WOULD DRAW US TO NOTICE THERE MAY BE AN ISSUE. THERE IS A PARTICULAR CODE CASE THAT THE TOWN IS WORKING ON WHERE, YOU KNOW, THERE IS A BUILDING THAT WAS BUILT WITHOUT A PERMIT AND WE WERE ABLE, WITH THE PERMISSION OF THE PROPERTY OWNER, TO GET ON THAT PROPERTY AND SEE THAT THAT WAS THERE AND THERE. THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME ACTION TAKEN. AND THAT GOT US LOOKING AT OUR ORDINANCES, THIS DANGEROUS BUILDING SECTION OR CODE OF ORDINANCE EXISTS, BUT THERE'S SOME AMBIGUITIES IN IT. THERE'S A REFERENCE TO A BOARD AND NO BOARD OF ESTABLISHED WHO IS THE BOARD. SO THIS IS JUST KIND OF A CLEANUP TO WHAT'S ALREADY ON THE BOOKS. IS THIS GOING TO BE COMPLAINT DRIVEN OR ARE WE GOING TO BE DRIVING AROUND LOOKING FOR PROBLEMS? YES, COMPLAINT DRIVEN. BECAUSE I DO THINK THAT IT HELPED. JUST CONSIDERING THE COUPLE OF SPECIFIC CASES THAT I KNOW OF THAT I, I THINK THAT IT'S A GOOD USE OF THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT. YEAH. THAT'S RIGHT.

AND YOU'RE ALSO SAYING THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE. IT'S JUST NOT CLEAN ENOUGH TO ACTUALLY GO OUT AND OKAY, CORRECT. AND A LOT OF BIGGER CITIES WILL HAVE A SEPARATE BOARD THAT HANDLES THIS. WE DON'T BELIEVE THIS WILL BE UTILIZED VERY OFTEN AT ALL. SO WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GOOD FIT WITH THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT AND KIND OF FITS IN WITH A LOT OF WHAT THEY DO, WHICH THEY DON'T DO A LOT, HAVE A LOT OF MEETINGS EITHER. SO THIS GIVES THEM ANOTHER THING TO ACT ON. CAN YOU YOU MAY HAVE JUST SAID THIS, AND I JUST MAYBE I WAS READING. I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND IT. CAN YOU GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE OF A DANGEROUS BUILDING LIKE IS IT DILAPIDATED? IS IT VACANT? WELL, YES. BECAUSE IT'S IF IT'S UNSECURE LIKE IT HAS BROKEN WINDOWS, DOORS OPEN AND IT'S NOT SECURED. IT DOESN'T HAVE RUNNING WATER AND UTILITIES TO IT THAT ARE, THAT ARE OPERATING SOME CASES OR WE'VE HAD SOME COMPLAINTS WHERE THIS COULD BE UTILIZED IS WHEN WE'VE HAD SOME CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS THAT LINGERED FOREVER, THE PERMIT EXPIRED, AND THEN IT'S NOT A COMPLETE HOME. BUT WHAT DO WE WHAT KIND OF ACTION CAN YOU TAKE AT THAT POINT? SO THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF A CASE THAT COULD BE USED ON IT. PROBABLY BE MORE COMMON IN NORTH LAKE THAN SOME OLD HOME THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET TORN DOWN. OKAY. THIS IS I'VE TALKED TO A FEW FELLOW MAYORS ABOUT THIS, AND IT'S IT'S ONE OF THOSE BRIDGES WE KIND OF HAVE TO CROSS AS WE GET BIGGER AND BIGGER. EVENTUALLY YOU HAVE ISSUES WHERE PEOPLE BUILD ENTIRE AND COMPLETE STRUCTURES WITHOUT PERMITS. YOU HAVE BUILDING PROJECTS THAT ARE NOT FINISHED IN A TIMELY FASHION. AND THEY BECOME, YOU KNOW, WE LUCKILY DON'T HAVE A HOMELESS PROBLEM YET, BUT YOU HAVE PEOPLE STARTING TO GET IN THESE BUILDINGS AND, YOU KNOW, RISK THEIR OWN SAFETY OR OTHER PEOPLE'S SAFETY. SO THERE'S A IT'S KIND OF A BRIDGE THAT WE'RE GROWING AND WE HAVE TO START BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THIS WHEN IT COMES. YOU DON'T WANT TO HAPHAZARDLY MAKE THE RULES WHEN YOU NEED THEM THE MOST.

RIGHT? SO THIS GIVES US A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO GO THROUGH THIS AND COMPLAINT DRIVEN. JUST AS OUR CODE COMPLIANCE OFFICE IS COMPLAINT DRIVEN. THAT'S WHAT DRIVES, YOU KNOW, WHEN THERE'S A LACK OF INSPECTIONS OR SOMEBODY SAYS, HEY, THERE'S NO PERMIT ON THAT, YOU KNOW, AND WE GO AHEAD AND CAPTURE THAT DATA AND LET LET THEM DO THE WORK. COUNCIL IS NOT USUALLY INVOLVED WITH THIS UNTIL WE ACTUALLY WERE TO HIT COMMENDATION OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT. CORRECT. AND BOA IS GOING TO HANDLE MOST OF THAT. YES. AS FAR AS THE COMPLAINT DRIVEN, I'M SORRY TO KEEP ASKING QUESTIONS. CAN SOMEBODY JUST CALL UP OR FILL ONLINE AND SAY, HEY, MY NEIGHBORS GOT THIS AND IT'S THEY DIDN'T GET PERMITTING WITHOUT EVIDENCE? OR DO YOU HAVE TO HAVE EVIDENCE? PICTURES PERMITTING. WHAT WHAT IS THE COMPLAINT THAT WILL DRIVE US TO GO? THERE'S A COMPLAINT. THEN WE'LL WE CAN INVESTIGATE IT AND THEN HAVE TO BE THERE'D HAVE TO BE SOME LEGITIMACY THERE FOR US TO CONTINUE WITH, WITH THE PROCESS.

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IT WAS JUST A VISUAL OBSERVATION FROM THE STREET. SO COULD IT BE ABUSED BY SOME NAYSAYERS IN PUBLIC OR WHATNOT? I THINK STAFF'S DONE A VERY GOOD JOB BECAUSE THEY ONLY HAVE CONTACT HOMEOWNER. IF THERE'S A BUILDING PERMIT, THEY COULD JUST CHECK. IS THERE A PERMIT PULLED? YES, THERE'S A PERMIT PULLED. GREAT. DONE. VERY GOOD QUESTIONS. WHAT'S THE ESCALATION PROCESS THROUGH THIS? I MEAN, SO I GUESS IT GOES TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS. HOW DO I GUESS TALK ME THROUGH SO I UNDERSTAND BETTER WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE WHEN THERE IS AN ISSUE OR A CHALLENGE. SO YEAH, THE THE ORDINANCE KIND OF OUTLINES THE WHOLE PROCESS EVEN BEFORE IT GETS TO BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS. AND SO SO WE OF COURSE TRY TO WORK WITH PROPERTY OWNERS. THIS IS EVEN WITH THE REGULAR CODE CASES TO JUST GET THE ISSUE RESOLVED WITHOUT HAVING TO GO TO HAVING TO TAKE IT TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT OR EVEN TAKE IT TO, TO COURT OR SOMETHING THAT THE GOAL IS JUST TO IF THERE IS AN ISSUE TO GET THAT VIOLATION TO GET THAT RESOLVED. SO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS ISN'T THE FIRST STEP IN THE PROCESS. NO, IT'S NO, IT'S IT'S AN OPTION THAT WE HAVE. IF IT GOES AT THE END, IF NOTHING ELSE IS WORKING AND WE FINALLY NEED TO GET SOMETHING DONE, AND THEN THAT'S AN ADDED FORM OF DUE PROCESS BECAUSE THERE'S A HAS TO GO BEFORE THIS BOARD PUBLIC MEETING. THERE'S PUBLIC HEARINGS. SO EVERYBODY'S NOTIFIED AND THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS A CHANCE TO DEFEND THEIR CASE. AT THAT POINT. IS THERE A CLEAR DEFINITION OF VIOLATIONS OF HEALTH AND SAFETY AND DANGEROUS AND SUBSTANDARD BUILDING? YES. WITHIN THE ORDINANCE, THAT'S ALL SPELLED OUT. SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO CUT YOU OFF. WITH THAT. I GUESS WE CAN OPEN PUBLIC HEARING AND IT IS 6:33 P.M. HI, JOE. JOE MCGREGOR 8921 EAST SAM LEE LANE. AND BOY, I'VE GOT SOME STUFF TO SAY ABOUT THIS. THIS IS A CLEAR VIOLATION OF PEOPLE'S RIGHTS. I'VE LIVED IN A CITY THAT HAD THIS PROCESS AND IT WAS SEVERELY ABUSED THERE AT MY HOUSE, STORM HAD DAMAGED SOME SHINGLES AND A CODE ENFORCEMENT GUY GOT ON IT IMMEDIATELY AND GOT A WARRANT AND BROKE INTO MY HOUSE, CHANGED ALL THE LOCKS, CUT ALL THE LOCKS OFF MY TRAILERS IN THE BACKYARD, REPLACED THEM WITH THEIR OWN LOCKS, AND ALL OF THIS WAS WITH A WARRANT SIGNED BY A JUDGE, WHICH WAS RIDICULOUS. AND WHEN I GOT A BILL, AN INSPECTOR THAT WASN'T IN CAHOOTS WITH THE CODE ENFORCEMENT TO COME OUT AND LOOK AT IT AND MEET THE CODE ENFORCEMENT GUY THERE, HE'S LIKE, THERE'S NOTHING DANGEROUS ABOUT THIS HOUSE. YOU KNOW, THIS IS RIDICULOUS. AND THEY DID END UP DROPPING IT. BUT I HAD TO CHANGE MY LOCKS BACK. THEY THEY DIDN'T GIVE ME A KEY TO LOCKS WHEN THEY CHANGED THEM.

AND, YOU KNOW, GRANTED, MAYBE NOBODY RIGHT NOW WILL DO THIS, BUT WHAT ABOUT IN TEN YEARS? MAYBE NONE OF YOU GUYS WILL BE HERE. MAYBE NONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ON STAFF ARE GOING TO BE HERE, AND THERE'LL BE OTHER PEOPLE. AND I GUARANTEE YOU AT SOME POINT THEY WILL DO STUFF.

AND IT WAS MENTIONED THAT CURRENT STUFF IS COMPLAINT BASED. THAT IS NOT TRUE. GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS MEETINGS. THE LAST THREE MEETINGS THEY'VE HAD.

WELL, NOT THE LAST ONE. THEY DIDN'T DO ANYTHING BUT THE PREVIOUS THREE MEETINGS. NONE OF THOSE WERE COMPLAINT BASED. THEY WERE ALL INITIATED BY A CITY INSPECTOR. AND BECAUSE THEY SAID SOMEBODY HAD, YOU KNOW, THEY BUILT A BUILDING THAT WAS SLIGHTLY TOO BIG OR SLIGHTLY TOO CLOSE TO A FENCE OR SOMETHING WHEN NONE OF THE NEIGHBORS CARED, NOBODY CARED.

[01:05:04]

IF I WANT A BUILDING ON MY HOUSE, ON MY PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, IF IT FALLS ON ME, THAT'S MY PROBLEM. YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT THE CITY'S JOB TO COME ON MY PROPERTY AND TELL ME THAT MY BUILDING IS SAFE OR NOT SAFE, AND FORCE ME TO TEAR IT DOWN OR DO SOMETHING WITH IT. AND, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY TRESPASSES ON MY PROPERTY AND MY BUILDING FALLS ON THEM, HEY, TOO BAD THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN TRESPASSING. YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE THING IS JUST A BLATANT VIOLATION OF PEOPLE'S PROPERTY RIGHTS. AND SO IF YOU CAN TELL I'M AGAINST THIS. YOU KNOW, AND THEY TALK ABOUT PERMITS AND THINGS NOT BEING PERFECT. WE ALREADY HAVE A PROCESS FOR THAT.

IF SOMETHING'S NOT PERMITTED, THEY'VE GOT A PROCESS TO DEAL WITH THAT IT DOESN'T NEED WE DON'T NEED THIS EXTRA STUFF TO DEAL WITH IT. YOU KNOW, IF YOU GUYS, IF WE WANT TO MAKE SOMETHING LIKE THIS APPLY TO COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS, THAT'S A DIFFERENT THING. BUT RESIDENTIAL, YOU KNOW, HOMEOWNERS HOMESTEADED PROPERTY. PEOPLE SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO COME ON YOUR PROPERTY AND NITPICK YOUR BUILDINGS OR WHATEVER YOU'VE GOT. YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST THAT'S THAT'S WRONG. I THINK YOU GUYS KNOW THAT. THANKS. THANK YOU. JOEL. ANYONE ELSE? FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK THE COUNCIL. MY NAME IS RENA HARDIMAN, BY THE WAY. I'D LIKE TO THANK THE COUNCIL FOR ASKING SO MANY QUESTIONS. THIS IS EXACTLY HOW IT SHOULD BE DONE IN OPEN FORUM. AND I THANK YOU FOR ASKING YOUR QUESTIONS, BECAUSE NOT EVERYBODY READS THESE THINGS, AND IT NEEDS TO BE ON RECORD AS TO WHAT THE TOWN INTENDS TO DO AGAINST ITS CITIZENS. ALLEGEDLY. SO THANK YOU FOR ASKING YOUR QUESTIONS. THIS, TO ME, IS A GROSS VIOLATION OF OUR PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS. AND NOWHERE IN THE UNITED STATES IS IT MORE EVIDENT THAT WE BELIEVE IN PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS THAN IN TEXAS. I CAN SEE ABUSES WRITTEN ALL OVER THIS. DOESN'T MATTER THE INTENT. WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO NATHAN, THE INTENT OF ANYTHING MEANS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. WHAT MATTERS IS WHAT'S WRITTEN IN THE ORDINANCE.

VISUAL CLUES. SO THIS IS NEIGHBOR SPYING ON NEIGHBORS. I'LL TELL YOU A QUICK LITTLE STORY. SO BACK WHEN PETE DEWING WAS MAYOR AND ADJOINING LANDOWNER TO ONE OF OUR PIECES OF LAND, TOLD US THAT HE AND I GUESS I HAVE TO SAY, ALLEGEDLY HERE ALLEGEDLY ASKED THEM IF HE COULD SEND PEOPLE ONTO THEIR PROPERTY TO SPY ON OUR PROPERTY. OKAY, THEY SAID, ABSOLUTELY NOT.

BUT THAT'S ANOTHER ABUSE BECAUSE YOU COULDN'T SEE WHAT APPARENTLY HE WANTED TO DO FROM THE ROAD. YOU HAD TO GO TO ANOTHER PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WAS ADJOINING. OKAY, FURTHER ABUSES OF THIS. WE HAVE AN OLD TIMEY BARN. WE HAVE OLD TIMEY CORRUGATED TIN CATTLE FEEDERS THAT ARE UNBELIEVABLY BEAUTIFUL IN MY MIND BECAUSE THEY ARE SO OLD. AND FOR SOMEONE TO LOOK AT THAT AND SAY, YOU'VE GOT TO TAKE THAT DOWN ARENA, IT'S JUST A VIOLATION OF MY PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS AND MY WANTING TO KEEP THOSE OLD THINGS ON MY PROPERTY IF I WANT TO. IT DOESN'T POSE A THREAT TO ANYONE. I APPRECIATE THE QUESTION ABOUT WHAT CONSTITUTES A DANGEROUS BUILDING, BECAUSE IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT OPEN DOORS AND BROKEN WINDOWS, YOU CAN SEE THOSE ALL OVER THE PLACE. SOMETIMES WE LEAVE OUR BARN DOORS OPEN. DOES THAT MEAN THAT IT'S A DANGEROUS BUILDING? NO, IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT AT ALL, BECAUSE FROM AN ENGINEERING STANDPOINT, THEY ARE STRUCTURALLY SOUND. WE WOULDN'T WANT TO USE THEM IF THEY WEREN'T. THIS IS JUST A LEGAL MEANS OF ACCESSING PEOPLE'S PROPERTY. I THINK I SPOKE AT THE LAST MEETING ABOUT PEERING INTO OUR PROPERTY AND SEEING THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE DON'T NEED TO SEE BY ILLEGAL MEANS, WHICH THE TOWN OF NORTH LAKE SHARES WITH DCAD. Y'ALL SHARE ALL OF OUR PLANS WITH DCAD, AND THAT ALLOWS DCAD TO PEER INTO OUR PROPERTY. THIS JUST GIVES YOU ANOTHER LEGAL MEANS TO COME ONTO OUR PROPERTY AND TO VIOLATE OUR PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS. AND WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO WHAT YOU SAID, MAYOR MONTINI, ABOUT THIS IS, YOU KNOW, A PROBLEM OF US GROWING. WHY PUNISH THOSE OF US WHO HAVE BEEN HERE FOR A LONG TIME? BECAUSE EVERYTHING AROUND US IS EXPLODING WITH GROWTH. I AGREE WITH WHAT MR. MCGREGOR SAID ABOUT COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS. GO AHEAD AND USE THAT FOR COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS, BECAUSE THOSE ARE PLACES WHERE THE THE GENERAL PUBLIC MIGHT FREQUENT. THE GENERAL PUBLIC ISN'T GOING TO FREQUENT MY PROPERTY. AND THIS ONE, FINALLY, THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS A CHANCE TO PLEAD THEIR CASE. SO THIS COULD HAPPEN OVER A YEAR'S TIME AND COST THEM TIME AND MONEY AND RESOURCES AND LEGAL FEES AND EVERY OTHER THING SO THAT WE CAN PROVE OURSELVES INNOCENT. I

[01:10:03]

VISUAL COMPONENTS OF A BARN OR THINGS LIKE THAT ARE NOT PART OF THIS ORDINANCE. THINGS CAN BE 600 YEARS OLD AND STILL BE STRUCTURALLY STURDY. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE WE DO HAVE SOME REAL ISSUES IN THIS TOWN, TOWN ISSUES THAT OTHER MAYORS HAVE FACED. A HOUSE GET STRUCK BY LIGHTNING, BURNS DOWN THE RESIDENCES, RESIDENTS MOVE ON. THEY LEAVE THE HOME. IT'S IN DISREPAIR. IT'S HALF BURNED DOWN RIGHT NEXT TO YOUR HOUSE. AND THE TOWN CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT WITHOUT AN ORDINANCE LIKE THIS. IT HAS TO STAY THERE. DEVALUING YOUR PROPERTIES TO MAKE YOUR WAY. SORRY. SO THERE ARE. EVERYBODY TALKS ABOUT CODE ENFORCEMENT BEING EVIL, AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT 95% OF OUR CASES ARE RESOLVED IN THE FIRST OR SECOND PHONE CALL. THERE'S NO COURT CASE, THERE'S NO BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT INVOLVEMENT. BUT THIS IS JUST LIKE WHEN WE DID WITH OTHER DIFFICULT TOPICS LIKE STORMWATER FEES. THIS IS STUFF THAT GROWING TOWN, WHEN USED PROPERLY, IS CRITICAL. ARE THERE BAD ACTORS? YOU KNOW, YOU SPOKE OF A TOWN ISSUE YOU HAD IN OUR CITY. YES. THERE'S BAD ACTORS. OKAY. WE TRY NOT TO DO THAT. WE TRY TO GOVERN THAT. WE DIRECT STAFF TO GOVERN THAT FUTURE COUNCIL. YEAH, COULD BE STUPID. FUTURE COUNCIL COULD CHANGE THE ORDINANCE OR DELETE IT OR MAKE IT HARDER. SO WHAT WE DO TODAY WITH INTENT DOES NOT NECESSARILY PROTECT ANYONE OR HURT ANYONE UNTIL THERE'S DIFFERENT INTENT. RIGHT. AND THAT DIFFERENT INTENT CAN BE CHANGED WITH STROKE OF A PEN. SO YOUR POINTS ARE WELL

[01:15:05]

I LIKE ASSIGNING THAT DUTY TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS RATHER THAN CREATING A NEW, SEPARATE BOARD. AND ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING THE ISSUES THAT WE FACED IMMINENTLY. THAT I THINK THIS IS A GOOD CLARIFICATION FOR HOW WE CAN FURTHER ENFORCE IT. I JUST THINK IT NEEDS A LITTLE BIT MORE FLESHING OUT OF WHAT SPECIFICALLY ARE WE? WHAT SPECIFICALLY IS THE INTENT AND MAYBE BUILD IN? SOME PROTECTION FROM LIKE ABUSE OF THE OF THE WHICH I, I DON'T THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE THAT WE EXPECT TO FACE, BUT THAT MAY BE RIGHT IN SOME PROTECTION FROM ABUSE. WELL, WE ALREADY HAVE THESE DEFINITIONS IN THE CURRENT ORDINANCE. WE'RE THIS JUST CONNECTS WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE TO THE A QUASI JUDICIAL BODY, THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, WHICH IS GOING TO SERVE AS A SUBSTANDARD BUILDINGS BOARD. SO WE'RE ADDING A DUE PROCESS STEP FOR THOSE THAT HAVE THESE CASES. AND AND THIS IS NOT A STAFF DRIVEN. YOU ASKED FOR TOOLS AND SOLUTIONS FOR THESE SITUATIONS. AND SO THIS IS WHAT WE BROUGHT FORWARD TO YOU. SO BUT IF YOU NEED A TABLE THIS IF YOU NEED MORE TIME TO LOOK INTO THIS IF YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, IF WE NEED A WORKSHOP THIS WE'LL BE GLAD TO DO THAT. BUT THIS IS THIS IS REALLY CONNECTING THOSE DEFINITIONS TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT AND PROVIDING ANOTHER STEP, ANOTHER DUE PROCESS STEP. MIKE, I WANT TO GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO SPEAK. JUST KNOW THAT IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S BECAUSE SOMEBODY SAID ABOUT DELINEATING THESE TO CERTAIN THINGS OR MAYBE LEGAL ISSUES TIED TO THAT. SO WE CAN'T DISCRIMINATE BY PROPERTY OWNERSHIP. SO WE CAN'T REALLY DO THE COMMERCIAL VERSUS RESIDENTIAL. SO THAT'S THE ONE CAVEAT. I WAS JUST GOING TO RECOMMEND THAT. GIVE MR. GANZ A CHANCE TO SPEAK HERE AS WELL. BUT IF WE HAVE FURTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS, MAYBE WE JUST TABLE IT TILL EXECUTIVE SESSION, MAKE SURE ANY LEGAL QUESTIONS ARE ANSWERED ON THE BACKSIDE THROUGH THE ATTORNEYS. I'LL MAKE A MOVE THAT WE WILL.

OKAY. I'LL SECOND THAT FOR RIGHT NOW. MR. YOU DID HAVE COMMENT. I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

NOW. NO. PLEASE DO. WELL, THERE'S ONLY A FEW PEOPLE ON THE COUNCIL I THINK MYSELF.

ROGER. I'M PROBABLY YOURSELF, BRIAN. YEARS, A COUPLE OF YEARS BACK, WE HAD A HOUSE IN.

THOUSAND MINUTE SUBDIVISION UP THE STREET ACROSS FROM NORTHRIDGE ESTATES. HIGHLANDS.

HOW MANY YEARS DID WE BET THAT HOUSE AROUND? BACK AND FORTH? THAT WAS FOR TWO YEARS, INCOMPLETE PLASTIC INSULATION BLOWN OFF THE HOUSE. NEIGHBORS CONCERNED ABOUT KIDS GETTING INJURED. AS NATHAN MENTIONED, THERE'S A CASE GOING ON NOW IN TOWN WITH AN UNPERMITTED HOUSE THAT'S BEING USED FOR RENTAL PURPOSES. SO I THINK THERE'S BEEN SOME OVERREACTION. NO ONE'S GOING TO GO OUT LOOKING AT PEOPLE'S BARNS. I THINK WE HAVE SOME CONCRETE EXAMPLES AS TO WHY WE NEED SOMETHING LIKE THIS. IF IT NEEDS A LITTLE MORE TWEAKING, THAT'S FINE. LET'S DISCUSS IT IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. BUT I THINK WE DO NEED SOMETHING LIKE THIS. AND AND DREW'S RIGHT. THIS IS WHAT WE ASKED FOR. AND THESE DEFINITIONS, THIS DANGEROUS

[5.B. VOTE]

[5.C. Consider approval of an Ordinance of the Town of Northlake, Texas, approving a Site Plan of Northlake Industrial Addition, a proposed industrial development with two buildings totaling 1,500,000 square feet on 115.264 acres generally located east of IH 35W and west of Cleveland Gibbs Road at Whyte Road - Case # 25-SP00009]

NORTH NORTH LAKE INDUSTRIAL. THIS IS TRAMMELL CROW SITE NATHAN. YES, IT'S RARE THAT SITE PLANS COME BEFORE YOU. NOW THIS IS THE TRAMMELL CROW SITE BETWEEN 35 W AND THE NORTHWEST REGIONAL AIRPORT. SITE PLAN HAS ACTUALLY ALREADY BEEN APPROVED FOR THIS SITE. BACK IN 2023.

[01:20:03]

[5.C. VOTE]

[01:25:08]

[5.D. Consider approval of an Ordinance of the Town of Northlake, Texas, approving a zoning change from RR – Rural Residential to I – Industrial for approximately 1.0 acre of land located at 11703 Cockleburr Road. Case # 25-ZCA00002 ]

SO BUT I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW I'M FOR IT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY I'M FOR

[01:30:02]

[5.D. VOTE]

[6. EXECUTIVE SESSION ]

ALL RIGHT.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.