[1. CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:10] 8TH, 5:30 P.M. COUNCIL MEETING FOR TOWN NORTH LAKE. ALL COUNCILORS ARE PRESENT. WE'RE GOING TO START WITH OUR INVOCATION, MR. SCHECK. WELCOME. GOOD EVENING. HAPPY NEW YEAR. LET'S START OFF WITH THE WORD FROM HEBREWS 1316 SAYS, DON'T FORGET TO DO GOOD AND TO SHARE WITH THOSE IN NEED. THESE ARE THE SACRIFICES THAT PLEASE GOD. GOOD WORDS TO LIVE BY. LET'S PRAY. HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS NEW YEAR. A FRESH START, EXCITING PLANS AHEAD FOR THIS TOWN AND AND FOR ALL THE PEOPLE WHO ARE A PART OF IT. WE THANK YOU, LORD, FOR THIS COUNCIL, FOR ALL THE LEADERS, THE STAFF, ALL THOSE WHO HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS TODAY AND PRAY THAT YOU WOULD BE WITH THEM AND GUIDE THEM AND DIRECT THEM. WE THANK YOU FOR OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AND FOR THE SACRIFICES THAT THEY MAKE. TO KEEP US SAFE, WE PRAY, LORD, FOR ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE HURTING PHYSICALLY OR MENTALLY IN THIS TIME OF YEAR, WE PRAY THAT YOU WOULD BE THEIR PEACE, THEIR HOPE AND THEIR STRENGTH. THAT YOU WOULD HEAL THEM AND RESTORE THEM. LORD, I PRAY THAT YOUR PRESENCE WOULD BE HERE AMONG ALL THOSE WHO ARE SPEAKING AND LISTENING TODAY, AND THAT YOUR WILL WOULD ULTIMATELY BE DONE. AND IT'S IN THE PRECIOUS NAME OF JESUS, WE PRAY. AMEN. AMEN. THANK YOU. STAND FOR OUR PLEDGES, PLEASE. THAT'S VERY FAR. THANK YOU. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG AND PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO BE TEXAS. ONE STATE UNDER ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A COMPARATIVELY SHORT AGENDA [2.A. Reports and Updates from the Mayor and Town Councilmembers Concerning Items of Community Interest (if necessary)] TONIGHT AS TO SOME WEEKS, AND WE'RE GOING TO START TONIGHT WITH OPEN, OPEN ITEM THAT'S ON THE AGENDA. FAIRLY NEW ITEM. THE ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE ANY COMMUNITY INTEREST UPDATES OR ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH THE PUBLIC? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE. I ONLY HAVE ONE THIS WEEK. WE ARE EXPECTING SOME GOOD NEWS HERE AND HOPING TO SEE SOME SHOVELS STARTING TO WORK AT 407 AND 35 WITHIN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS. SO THAT IS A VERY POSITIVE MOVEMENT FORWARD. WE EXPECT THE COUNTY TO LET THE CONTRACTOR TEX-DOT IN THE COUNTY, LET THE CONTRACTOR IN ABOUT A WEEK, AND THEN THEY EXPECT TO HAVE THAT DONE NO LATER THAN THE END OF MARCH IS THEIR SUPPOSED DEADLINE FOR THE MICRO BREAKOUT, WHICH IS JUST A FEW ADDITIONAL LANES UNDER THE BRIDGE AND SOME TRAFFIC EASING MEASURES. SO THAT'S SOME POSITIVE NEWS FOR OUR TOWN. HOPEFULLY THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE TO AFFECT PEOPLE'S DAILY LIVES HERE. NEXT WE WILL [2.B. Briefing - Public Works Departmental Update ] GO INTO PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT UPDATE. AND WHAT DO YOU HAVE FOR US TODAY? DID YOU KNOW YOU WERE EVEN UP TODAY? I DID. OKAY. THANK YOU MAYOR. COUNCIL, APPRECIATE YOUR TIME THIS EVENING. TRY TO JUMP RIGHT INTO THIS. JUST A DEPARTMENT OVERVIEW. WHAT WE DID FOR FISCAL YEAR 25. CORE FUNCTIONS FOR PUBLIC WORKS, WATER DISTRIBUTION OPERATIONS, WASTEWATER COLLECTIONS, STREET MAINTENANCE, SIGNS AND MARKINGS, STORMWATER MANAGEMENT, INFRASTRUCTURE INSPECTIONS AND WATER METER INSTALLATIONS. TOTAL TASKS OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE WE TOOK A IT'S BEEN ON A STEADY CLIMB, BUT FISCAL YEAR 25 A LITTLE BIT OF DROP THAT YOU'LL SEE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES. WHY TOTAL TASKS FOR QUARTERLY FOR FISCAL YEAR 2425. AGAIN A LITTLE BIT LOWER TOTAL AT THE END OF THE YEAR. AND THIS IS ALL BECAUSE OF THE SMART METERS THAT WERE INSTALLED OVER THIS PAST YEAR. SO TWO WORK ORDER TASKS THAT ARE NO LONGER NEEDED DUE TO THE SMART READER, SMART READERS. SO [00:05:02] FINAL READS AND NEW CONNECTS TASKS ARE NO LONGER REQUIRED. CELLULAR ENDPOINTS ALLOW THESE TASK TYPES TO BE DISCONTINUED. 3300 TASKS FOR FOR THOSE TWO IN FISCAL YEAR 24, 1266 IN FISCAL YEAR 25. AND THEN WE DISCONTINUED THOSE IN FISCAL YEAR 26. AND THIS SHOWS REDUCTION OVERALL TASKS, SHOWCASES POSITIVE EFFICIENCY TREND. CUSTOMERS CAN VIEW THAT USAGE ON THE APP, REDUCING CHECK FOR LEAKS, WORK ORDERS, AND ALSO HELPS REDUCE THE WASTED WATER TO THE HIGH USAGE. WATER MAINTENANCE TASKS FOR FISCAL YEAR, FISCAL YEAR 24 AND 25. AGAIN JUST YOU'LL SEE THAT TOTAL THERE FOR FISCAL YEAR 25 DUE TO THE SMART METERS. AND THESE ARE NEW AND REPLACEMENT METER SETS. YOU SEE WE'VE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF DROP IN FISCAL YEAR 25. JUST A LITTLE BIT OF SLOWDOWN DEVELOPMENTS. HARVEST IS IS PRETTY MUCH BUILT OUT. SO WE'RE NOT PUTTING VERY MANY METERS IN OVER THERE. WE'RE STILL KIND OF GOING OVER THERE. CANYON FALLS IT'S MOSTLY REPLACEMENT METERS NOW THAT WE'RE WE'RE DOING OVER THERE. SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A SLOWDOWN. BUT YOU KNOW, WITH THE NEXT PHASES COMING UP, PECAN, WE SHOULD START SEEING THOSE KIND OF KICK BACK UP AGAIN FOR FISCAL YEAR 26. AND THESE ARE JUST OUR TOTAL CONNECTIONS FOR RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL. YOU'LL SEE SOME FROM FISCAL YEAR 19 TO 25. IT'S JUST BEEN A STEADY INCREASE. AND WE'LL SEE THOSE CONTINUE TO INCREASE WITH DEVELOPMENT. AND THEN WATER SUPPLY. YES BILLION GALLONS ON THERE. WE KIND OF REACHED THAT THE LAST FEW YEARS. AND THIS IS ALL WATER THAT IS PURCHASED FROM OUR WHOLESALE PROVIDER. IT'S WHAT COMES INTO THE OUR SOUTHEAST PUMP STATION, CANYON FALLS AND THE HARVEST PUMP STATION. AND THIS IS A COMBINED OF FORT WORTH AND UPPER TRINITY. AND SEWER LINE CLEANING. OUR GOAL IS 3030 MILES PER YEAR. FISCAL YEAR 24. WE HAD STAFFING A LITTLE BIT OF STAFFING SHORTAGE AND EQUIPMENT MALFUNCTIONS WITH OUR SEWER CLEANER. SO WE'RE WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR A NEW ONE, MAYBE FISCAL YEAR 2728. WE'LL START START LOOKING AT WE'VE HAD OURS FOR QUITE A FEW YEARS NOW, AND IT'S KIND OF ALMOST AT THE END OF ITS LIFE CYCLE. SIGNS AND MARKINGS 79 NEW SIGNS INSTALLED, 41 REPLACEMENTS, A LITTLE OVER 19,000 LINEAR FEET, PAINTED 94 STOP BARS AND ARROWS PAINTED. AND SOME REMOVED. YEAH. HOW MANY FEET WERE SCRUBBED? HOW MANY FEET DID THE MAYOR DO? BUT I HOPE THAT STAFF PASSED ON TO YOU THAT I WAS VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE LAST RUN UP, GIBBS. MUCH BETTER. THE STAFF IS LEARNING. I WAS, TOO. SO, SO VERY, VERY GOOD. I'M GLAD TO SEE STAFF LEARNING THAT CURVE THERE. YES, YES. STORMWATER FULFILLMENT OF MS4 STORMWATER PROGRAM CONTROL MEASURES. SO NOW THAT WE'VE REACHED THE URBAN CRITERIA WITH TC, WE HAD TO PUT TOGETHER A MS4 STORMWATER PROGRAM. SO WE DONE SOME PUBLIC EDUCATION OUTREACH THIS YEAR. SOCIAL MEDIA, TOWN HALL CURRICULUM, PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT, PARTICIPATION. WE DID INFORMATION INFORMATION BOOTH AT CHRISTMAS AT THE COMMONS, 127 ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS OVER THIS LAST YEAR AND THEN PRECONSTRUCTION STORMWATER MANAGEMENT. WE PUT THESE LITTLE INLET MARKERS ON EACH ONE OF THE INLETS IN A DEVELOPMENT. WE PUT THESE IN AND IT JUST KIND OF BASICALLY IT'S JUST KIND OF SHOWING, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTS AND COMMERCIAL DON'T DON'T DUMB THINGS DOWN THE INLETS THAT YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO. HERBICIDES, PESTICIDES, NO ENDO TO FERTILIZE, YOU KNOW, NOT BE RIGHT BEFORE THE RAIN AND THAT SORT OF THING. SO EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE THERE, IT'S STEADILY KEEPS CLIMBING IN THE GRAVEL ROADS OR GOING AWAY. WHEN, WHEN I FIRST STARTED AND IT WAS 25 MILES OF GRAVEL AND 25 MILES OF PAVEMENT, WE WERE EVEN. SO GO BACK TO THAT SLIDE. WE? YEAH, COME A LONG WAY, BABY. IS THAT WHAT THE COMMERCIAL USED TO SAY? AND THESE ARE THE TRAINING CLASSES THAT WE HAVE STAFF DO FOR DEPENDING ON WHAT TYPE OF LICENSE THEY ARE GETTING. AND THEN THE CDL ENTRY LEVEL DRIVER TRAINING LICENSES FOR OPERATORS, AND THEN IT KIND [00:10:05] OF JUST GOES DOWN THE LIST OF WHAT WE HAVE IN STAFF AND THEN THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO THIS NEXT YEAR IS APWA ACCREDITATION. IT'S KIND OF KIND OF THE SAME SCENARIO AS WHAT PD DOES FOR ACCREDITATION. WE'LL GO THROUGH OUR SELF-ASSESSMENT AND GO THROUGH THE PROCESS, AND THE BENEFITS ARE PROMOTION OF BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF PUBLIC WORKS OPERATIONS, IMPROVED EFFICIENCIES, FORMATION OF SUCCESSION PLANS. AND, YOU KNOW, SHOWING THAT WE'RE DOING THE BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES. SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE WE'RE LOOKING TO DO THIS NEXT YEAR. STAFF'S ALREADY STARTED THE PROCESS. AND WE'LL PROBABLY LOOK AT SOMETIME IN OCTOBER TO TURN ALL THAT IN. AND THE COUNCIL KNOWS, BUT I FORGOT WHAT IS APWA AMERICAN PUBLIC WORKS ASSOCIATION, ALL ACRONYMS. WE ALL HAVE OUR OWN ACRONYMS. AND THE BENEFITS ALSO CONTINUE HERE. CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT, OPERATIONAL EXCELLENCE, TEAM BUILDING, PROMOTION OF BETTER UNDERSTANDING PUBLIC WORKS OPERATIONS, STANDARDIZATION, EFFICIENCY EVALUATION, SUCCESSION, SUCCESSION, PLANNING OF KNOWLEDGE AND ENHANCED RISK MANAGEMENT. I WILL BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. I THINK COUNCIL WAS LOOKING. IF YOU NEED SOME VOLUNTEERS FOR SEWER LINE CLEANING. YEAH, I'LL TAKE THEM ANYTIME THEY WANT TO COME. WE HAVE WE HAVE GLOVES AND GLASSES. WE'LL IF YOU WANT TO GET INVOLVED WITH YOUR COMMUNITY, I'M JUST SAYING ANYTHING FOR ERIC. I CAN SAY THE THE WATER METERS ARE REALLY GREAT, JUST EVEN ON A CONSUMER SIDE OF IT. SO I WAS ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, ONE OF OUR NEIGHBORS, I THINK THEY WERE OUT ON VACATION A COUPLE MONTHS AGO. AND, YOU KNOW, HE LET OUR WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD KNOW ABOUT HOW HE HAD ALREADY SIGNED UP FOR THE NOTIFICATIONS, BUT IT ALERTED HIM THAT HE HAD A LEAK AT HIS HOUSE OR WHATEVER. WHAT? HE WAS GONE. AND SO THAT'S REALLY COOL. AND, AND I, YOU KNOW, I'VE EVEN HOOKED IT UP TO, TO CHECK OURS. AND YOU COULD REALLY GREAT IF YOU HAVEN'T LIKE ACTUALLY LOOKED AT IT YET. YOU CAN SEE YOUR WATER USAGE ON A DAILY BASIS AND EVEN UNDERSTAND I HAD A SPRINKLER GOING ON A DAY I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS BECAUSE I SAW IT SPIKE AND I WAS LIKE, OH MAN, I NEED TO CHANGE THAT. AND SO JUST FOR ANYONE NOT USING IT, IT'S A VERY COOL TOOL TO BE ABLE TO, TO PLUG INTO NOW. YEAH, IT'S A IT'S A REALLY GOOD TOOL FOR, FOR CUSTOMERS TO HAVE WE IT CUTS DOWN ON TASKS THAT WE HAVE TO DO. AND A BETTER EXPLANATION TO THE CUSTOMER ON WHAT WE'RE SEEING AND WHAT THEY'RE SEEING. SO I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. GOT ONE MORE QUESTION FOR YOU. I'M SORRY. WE HAD A ROAD NAME CHANGE FROM CLEVELAND GIBBS TO GIBBS A FEW MONTHS BACK. HOW ARE WE WITH THE ROAD SIGN CHANGES? I STILL THINK WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH DIN CODE 911 TO GET THAT OFFICIALLY CHANGED FROM WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING. AND THEN ONCE WE GET THE GO AHEAD ON THAT, THEN WE'LL WE'LL ORDER THOSE SIGNS AND GET THEM PUT UP. AND THAT'LL BE A VERY QUICK PROCESS TO DO THAT. THEN WE TALK ABOUT SCHEDULING THAT SIGN SWITCH WITH THE CHANGE IN THE ROUTE OF MULKEY. YEAH. AND WHEN WHEN THE ROAD CHANGES ROUTES, THAT'S WHEN WE'D LIKE THE TIME THAT. YEAH. SO WE'LL GET CAUGHT UP ON THAT. YEAH. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. NEXT WE ARE GOING TO [2.C. Briefing - Agricultural (AG) Zoning District Standards ] HAVE A BRIEFING ON THE AGRICULTURAL ZONING DISTRICT. THIS IS GOING TO BE NATHAN. YES. YOU DREW THE SHORT STRAW TODAY. ALL RIGHT. SO YOU'RE AWARE A FEW YEARS AGO, WE ADOPTED ORDINANCE THAT CREATED THE AGRICULTURAL ZONING DISTRICT, AND IT BECAME THE NEW DEFAULT ZONING FOR NEWLY ANNEXED PROPERTIES. BUT NO OTHER PROPERTIES HAVE BEEN REZONED TO THAT DISTRICT. WE BROUGHT BEFORE YOU A ZONING CHANGE FOR ALL UNDEVELOPED RURAL RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES TO AGRICULTURAL ZONING DISTRICT, AND IN THAT PROCESS, THERE ARE SEVERAL COMMENTS AND CONCERNS EXPRESSED ABOUT THE STANDARDS FOR THAT DISTRICT. IN PARTICULAR THE SETBACK STANDARDS. AND MAYOR AND COUNCIL DIRECTED STAFF TO BRING BACK AN ITEM TO CONSIDER AMENDING THOSE STANDARDS PRIOR TO ACTION ON A ZONING CHANGE, WHICH YOU TABLED AT THAT LAST MEETING. SO BEFORE DOING THAT, I JUST WANTED TO GO BACK OVER WHAT WHAT ARE THE STANDARDS AND GET A LITTLE GUIDANCE ON THAT BEFORE WE BEFORE WE COME BACK AND STARTING OUT, I JUST WANTED TO REMIND EVERYONE OF THE PURPOSE AND INTENT OF THESE ZONING DISTRICTS. THERE'S ACTUALLY A SECTION WITHIN OUR UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE THAT HAS A PURPOSE INTENT OF ALL OF OUR ZONING DISTRICTS, AND THESE ARE THE PURPOSE AND INTENT FOR THESE TWO ZONING DISTRICTS. AND THE MAIN DIFFERENCE IS RURAL RESIDENTIAL KIND OF SERVES BOTH [00:15:01] OF THESE PURPOSES. BEFORE THE AG DISTRICT WAS CREATED AND THIS KIND OF SPLIT, RURAL RESIDENTIAL IS A LITTLE MORE PRIMARILY RESIDENTIAL FOCUSED WITH THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE OF FIVE ACRES, BUT ALSO ALLOWS FOR AG USES. AND THEN THE AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT IS HAS A MINIMUM LOT SIZE OF 20 ACRES, WITH THE WITH THE PRIMARY FOCUS MORE ON AG USES UNDEVELOPED PROPERTIES, BUT DOES ALLOW FOR HOMES ON THE PROPERTIES AS WELL. SO WITH THOSE PURPOSES IN MIND, THAT'S WHERE SOME OF THESE STANDARDS WERE DERIVED FROM. OF COURSE, YOU HAVE THE DIFFERENCE IN THE MINIMUM LOT SIZES, BUT YOU ALSO HAVE DIFFERENCES IN SETBACKS. LARGER PROPERTIES HAVE A HAVE LARGER SETBACK REQUIREMENTS, AND THERE'S A LITTLE LOWERING OF SOME STANDARDS LIKE THE DWELLING UNIT AREA REQUIREMENT AND THE AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT. AND NATHAN GO BACK DIDN'T ON THE WIDTH AND DEPTH OF RURAL RESIDENTIAL COUNCIL. Y'ALL CHANGED THAT 2 OR 3 YEARS AGO, A FEW YEARS BEFORE WE CREATED THE AG DISTRICT COUNCIL AMENDED THE LOT WIDTH AND DEPTH STANDARDS FOR RURAL RESIDENTIAL TO KEEP FROM HAVING THESE VERY NARROW, LONG, NARROW, SKINNY LOTS. SO THAT'S A PRECEDENT THAT WE CAN CHANGE THESE STANDARDS IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S NEEDS TO BE ADJUSTED, THERE'S THERE'S ALSO THESE MISCELLANEOUS LOT REQUIREMENTS. THIS A, B, C AND H USED TO BE ALL TOGETHER IN RURAL RESIDENTIAL. THESE WERE SPLIT WHEN THE AG ZONING DISTRICT WAS CREATED. THAT C WHICH ALLOWS FOR SOME ADDITIONAL HEIGHT FOR CERTAIN AGRICULTURAL STRUCTURES, WAS JUST KEPT IN THE AG DISTRICT AND REMOVED FROM RURAL RESIDENTIAL, AND B WAS REMOVED FROM THE AG DISTRICT. SO IT DIDN'T IT WASN'T REQUIRED TO HAVE AN ENCLOSED GARAGE LIKE A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT WOULD BE. AND THEN FINALLY, HERE'S THE DIFFERENCES IN PERMITTED USES. SO I'VE CLUDED HERE TWO COLUMNS FOR RURAL RESIDENTIAL BECAUSE PRIOR TO CREATION OF THE AG. A LOT OF WHAT IS IN IN AG IN RURAL RESIDENTIAL WAS COMBINED TOGETHER. AND SO THERE'S A SPLIT NOW WITH THE WHAT'S IN THE CURRENT RURAL RESIDENTIAL AND AG. AND THIS IS SHOWING SOME OF THOSE DIFFERENCES. AND AS A REMINDER THE P MEANS IT'S A PERMITTED USE. THE S MEANS IT'S PERMITTED WITH APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT. THERE IS A PROCESS TO GO THROUGH, SIMILAR TO ZONING AND APPLICATION FEE FOR THOSE THAT APPLICATION FEE HAS BEEN $500 SINCE I STARTED WORKING HERE, AND UNTIL 2020, THERE WAS A FEE SCHEDULE AMENDMENT THAT LOWERED THE FEE FOR RESIDENTIAL USES TO $100. AND HERE'S THOSE USES CONTINUED. SO THE THE NEXT STEPS ARE TO DRAFT THE UDC AMENDMENT BASED ON YOUR INPUT TONIGHT AND PROPOSE A SCHEDULE OF. HAVING THE AMENDMENT GO TO THE PNC MEETING AT THE END OF THIS MONTH, WHEN THEY'LL CONSIDER A RECOMMENDATION ON THAT. AND THEN I'LL COME BACK TO YOU AT THE FEBRUARY 12TH MEETING, AND YOU'LL BE ABLE TO ACT ON IT ON THE SAME MEETING THAT WILL SCHEDULE THE THE POTENTIAL ZONING CHANGE FROM RR TO AG. OKAY, COUNCIL, FIRST OF ALL, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS FOR NATHAN. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO WORKSHOP THIS A LITTLE BIT SO THAT PNC KNOWS WHAT ACTIONS TO TAKE AT THEIR NEXT MEETING. BASED ON COUNCIL FEEDBACK. WE'VE GOT OUR PNC CHAIR HERE TO LISTEN TO. YES. THANK YOU FOR ATTENDING. NIGHT. LINDA, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HEARD FROM SOME RESIDENTS ON THE SETBACKS. I KNOW SOME OF YOU EXPRESSED INTEREST IN RESETTING SOME OF THOSE. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SET THE SPECIAL OR THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FEE, SINCE THIS AFFECTS MOSTLY VACANT LAND AND SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING LAND TO REDUCE THAT SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FEE TO $100 SO THAT THAT CARRIES OVER TO AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT. THAT WAY THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL BURDEN ON THESE RESIDENTS IF THEY ASK FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT A LATER TIME OR SPECIFIC USE PERMIT, I SHOULD SAY. SO THAT'S THE ONE CHANGE I'D LIKE TO SUBMIT. AND THEN I THINK WE SHOULD WORKSHOP THROUGH THESE SETBACKS. THERE'S THE SETBACKS DO NOT APPLY CURRENTLY TO [00:20:03] AGRICULTURAL BUILDINGS. IT'S MORE OF A THERE WAS A DISTINCTION. YOU YOU THEY DO IF IT'S IF IT'S A BUILDING WITHOUT FOUR WALLS IN A IN A LOAFING SHEDS, THINGS LIKE THAT CAN BE ON THE PROPERTY LINES. BUT CORRECT SUBSTANTIAL STRUCTURES NEED TO FOLLOW THE SETBACKS. CORRECT. OKAY. VERY GOOD. SO I'M I THINK WE'RE ALL OPEN FOR INPUT HERE ON THE SETBACKS. I LOVE TO START SKETCHING THIS OUT AND FIGURE OUT WHAT KIND OF MOTION WE SHOULD, OR THAT'S NOT A MOTION OR ACTION ITEM TONIGHT, BUT GUIDANCE FOR FOR PNC. WHAT KIND OF FEEDBACK DO I HAVE ON SETBACKS? I KNOW THAT WE SHOULD LOOK AT REDUCING THEM, BUT LET'S GET SOME NUMBERS ON PAPER HERE. YES, SIR. OKAY. THANK YOU. I THINK WE OUGHT TO LEAVE THE SETBACKS ALONE. IN OTHER WORDS, WHATEVER THEY ARE IN RURAL RESIDENTIAL, WE OUGHT TO LEAVE THEM THE SAME IN AG. SO NOT AN OPTION FOR A COPY PASTE, IF YOU WILL. ALRIGHT. THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY. I DON'T KNOW THAT MUCH ABOUT THAT. I AGREE WITH THAT AS WELL. YEAH, I'M ALRIGHT WITH THAT TOO. OKAY, THAT'S PRETTY GOOD CONSENSUS. JOSH. ALEX. I MEAN FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS, I BECAUSE I KIND OF DISAGREE, BUT I TEND TO DIFFER A LITTLE BIT TO DOCTOR SESSIONS BECAUSE HE IS AFFECTED BY IT ALSO. BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THERE I THINK WE MIGHT HAVE GOTTEN A LITTLE DISTRACTED OR A LITTLE LIKE CAUGHT UP THAT THERE'S THAT WE'VE OVERCOMPLICATED WHAT IS JUST A REGULAR CORE, YOU KNOW, PART OF OUR ONE OF OUR DUTIES, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WE'RE JUST FINISHING, THINGS THAT HAVE THAT WE'VE ALREADY BEEN PLANNING, KIND OF LIKE TYING A BOW. SO I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ADJUSTING THE SETBACKS. I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY NEED TO BE EXACTLY THE SAME. WE COULD PROBABLY SPLIT IF IT WAS MY PREFERENCE AND I JUST GOT TO PICK. I'D SAY SPLIT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING FOR AG AND RURAL RESIDENTIAL, BECAUSE WE'RE JUST ACCOMPLISHING WHAT MOST PEOPLE ASK US TO DO, WHICH IS PROTECT THAT, LIKE RURAL FEELING OVER THERE AND THAT WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF PLACES, FRANKLY, THAT WE CAN'T, THAT WE GET TO PROTECT THE RURAL CHARACTER. AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE ASKED OF A LOT. SO I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY FINE AS IT IS, BUT I APPRECIATE THE OTHER FEEDBACK. SO IF IT REACHES CONSENSUS, YOU CAN YOU CAN GO EITHER. OKAY. JOSH, ANY INPUT FROM YOU. NO, I MEAN FOR IT'S TOUGH BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS THE CONSENSUS IS MORE TO, TO LIKE YOU SAID, COPY PASTE. I DO LEAN A LITTLE BIT MORE TOWARDS HOW ALEX IS KIND OF EXPLAINING OR SAYING THIS TOO, AND EVEN WONDERING, LIKE FOR DO WE DO SOMETHING AS A TRANSITIONAL FOR THESE CERTAIN PROPERTIES THAT ARE THAT WOULD BE AFFECTED ON THAT? YEAH. I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT YOU KNOW, WHAT THAT MEANS FOR FUTURE PROPERTIES ANNEXED IN AS AS WELL. BECAUSE I THINK WHAT FUTURE ANNEXED PROPERTIES ARE GO TO AGRICULTURE CURRENTLY OR IS IT RURAL RESIDENTIAL AND DO WE EVEN DO WE EVEN HAVE. I'M KIND OF LIKE ADDING ON TO HIS QUESTION DO WE EVEN HAVE PROPERTY IN OUR ETJ THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY BE ANNEXED THAT FALLS INTO THIS ETJ PROPERTY DOESN'T CARRY ZONING PER SE. IT ONLY CARRIES ZONING WHEN THEY ANNEX INTO THE TOWN. BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE EVEN HAVE PROPERTY THAT WOULD FALL UNDER THIS IF IT ULTIMATELY WAS ANNEXED. YEAH, I GUESS THE QUESTION, DO WE HAVE PROPERTY AT 25 ACRES OR MORE? THAT'S NOT THAT IS CURRENTLY LIKE THAT COULD BE. RIGHT. SO WE'VE HAD WE'VE HAD PROJECTS COME THROUGH LIKE THE ANNEXATION OF THE PROPERTY LINE 407 WITH THE INDUSTRIAL, THINGS LIKE THAT. TO YOUR POINT, JOSH, ARE YOU GETTING TO A POINT OF ALMOST GRANDFATHERING ANYONE? WE'RE CHANGING AND KEEPING SETBACKS FOR FUTURES, RIGHT? IS THAT THAT'S MORE MY MY THOUGHT PROCESS BECAUSE AGAIN, THERE ARE BENEFITS TO SOME OF THESE SETBACKS. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I DO UNDERSTAND CHANGING THE CHANGING THE GOALPOST FOR THOSE THAT ARE CURRENTLY, YOU KNOW, BASED, YOU KNOW, HAVE THIS, HAVE THESE SETBACKS FOR THEIR PROPERTIES, YOU KNOW, AND THAT THAT CAN BE FRUSTRATING WHEN YOU HAVE WHEN YOU BUY PROPERTY OR YOU HAVE PROPERTY WITH THAT CERTAIN THINGS POTENTIALLY IN MIND, YOU'RE CHANGING THE GOALPOST ON IT, YOU KNOW, MID-GAME. SO DO YOU DO SOMETHING TOWARD THOSE AFFECTED DURING THIS CHANGE ARE GRANDFATHERED IN AT A CERTAIN LEVEL, BUT THOSE GOING FORWARD. YOU KNOW, DEFAULT TO THESE TO THESE WHERE WE HAVE THEM NOW. COUNCIL, HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THIS IDEA. AND THEN WE'LL COVER WITH LEGAL WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T DO. CAN WE GIVE THEM INSTEAD OF GRANDFATHERING IN THE SETBACK AMOUNTS, CAN WE HAVE LIKE A EITHER LIKE WAIVING THE FEE FOR THE SPECIAL USE [00:25:04] PERMIT FOR THE FOR THE PEOPLE THAT EXIST, YOU KNOW, SO THAT THERE'S LIKE A WINDOW WHERE IF YOUR PROPERTY IS BEING AFFECTED AND YOU WANT TO REQUEST A CHANGE TO YOUR ZONING AFTER THIS GOES INTO PLACE, THAT YOU HAVE THE FEE WAIVED, AND SO THAT NOBODY THAT HAS A SPECIFIC NEED THAT IS GOING TO BE NEGATIVELY IMPACTED BY IT, YOU KNOW THAT THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TOO HIGH OF A HILL TO CLIMB TO GET. SO COUNCIL DOES HAVE THE RIGHT TO WAIVE ANY FEES AS, AS DESIRED, YOU KNOW, PER APPLICANT. SO YOU CAN WEIGH THAT AS AN OPTION. I THINK PART OF THE IDEA OF SETTING THE FEE DOWN TO WHAT'S CURRENTLY AT, YOU KNOW, LOWERS THAT PRETTY SIGNIFICANTLY 100 BUCKS INSTEAD OF $500. SO I THINK I THINK WE KIND OF ACCOMPLISHED THAT. BUT I THINK SEPARATING THAT OUT MAY LEAD TO DISCRIMINATION AND FEES AND DOCUMENTATION. AND I THINK WE SHOULD STICK THE STICK THAT TO SPECIAL SPECIAL REQUESTS. WE'VE HAD EVEN DEVELOPERS ASK TO WAIVE FEES BEFORE AND WE'VE CHOSEN YES OR NO ON THOSE. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE IDEA OF GRANDFATHERING IT IN. I UNDERSTAND THE REASONING BEHIND WANTING TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT HOW? HOW WOULD THAT ACTUALLY WORK? WOULD IT BE TO THE PROPERTY IF IT'S SOLD TO SOMEONE ELSE? HOW? THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE THAT I WOULD NEED. THIS WAS GUIDANCE ON THIS WAS BROUGHT UP IN MY DISCUSSION WITH COUNCIL. ONE IDEA AND IT'S IT'S AGAIN IT'S A BIT OF A HURDLE. BUT DO THE REZONING AND THEN HAVE A YEAR TWO YEAR GRACE PERIOD WHERE THAT IF YOU WANT TO GO BACK TO RURAL RESIDENTIAL WE'LL IT'S NO FEES. WE'LL WALK YOU THROUGH THE PROCESS AND WE'LL GET YOU BACK TO RURAL RESIDENTIAL. BUT THAT'S A GOOD POINT. MAYOR PRO TEM IS HOW DO WE KEEP TRACK OF WHO'S WHO AND WHEN THE PROPERTY CHANGES? IT'S GOING TO BE IT'S GOING TO BE DIFFICULT TO KEEP TRACK. I THINK PART OF MY CONCERN AND I UNDERSTAND EVERYBODY'S POINT, IS WE PROBABLY NEED TO KEEP IT CLEAN. EITHER DO IT OR DON'T DO IT. IF WE START KIND OF INTERTWINING AND GRANDFATHERING THESE PEOPLE AND NOT THESE PEOPLE, I THINK IT'S GOING TO MAKE YOUR LIFE A LITTLE BIT, QUITE A BIT HARDER. NATHAN'S LIFE QUITE A BIT HARDER. SO WE NORMALLY DON'T MIND. YEAH, THAT'S JUST MY POINT. I, I AGREE WITH WHAT DOCTOR SESSION SAYS ORIGINALLY. I THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO DO IT, WE HAD SOME THE REASON WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS, BECAUSE WE HAD SOME RESIDENTS THAT WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE SETBACKS, AND WE'RE ADDRESSING THAT, I THINK, RIGHT NOW. AND I THINK IN MY POINT OF VIEW IS, IS EITHER DO IT OR DON'T DO IT. AND I AGREE WITH DOCTOR SESSIONS, WE'RE GOING TO DO IT. LET'S JUST GO AHEAD AND MIMIC WHAT WE HAVE FOR RESIDENTIAL. I AGREE WITH THAT AS WELL. I THINK IT'S A PRETTY CLEAN PATH FORWARD. ALEX, ARE WE TALKING WHENEVER WE'RE TALKING ABOUT KEEPING IT THE SAME. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT JUST THE SETBACK REQUIREMENT STAYING THE SAME? SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE COPYING AND PASTING FROM RURAL RESIDENTIAL TO THE NEW AGEY DEPTH FRONT, SIDE, SIDE AND REAR. I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD CHANGE THE WIDTH REQUIREMENTS BECAUSE OF SOME DEVELOPER WHEN THEY COME IN. I DON'T KNOW WHY A DEVELOPER WOULD COME IN AND SET UP AGRICULTURAL, BUT YOU DON'T WANT CREATION OF LONG SKINNY LOTS AND FOR A 20 ACRE PROPERTY, 500 FOOT FRONTAGE IS ACTUALLY RATHER TINY BECAUSE I DO FEEL LIKE IF WE STARTED DOING WELL, LET'S CHANGE IT. BUT GRANDFATHER, EVERYONE IN, THEN WE MIGHT AS WELL NOT CHANGE IT BECAUSE WE'RE JUST SAYING ALL THE PROPERTY THAT'S AFFECTED ISN'T AFFECTED, RIGHT? SO WHAT WE'RE HEARING IS THE THE FOUR SETBACK WOULD, WOULD IN AG WOULD BE THE SAME AS RURAL RESIDENTIAL. AND THAT THE IF THERE'S AN SUPP IN AGRICULTURAL, IT'S $100 INSTEAD OF $500. I KIND OF THINK THEY SHOULD ALL BE 50 AND NOT 25. ALL SHOULD BE 50, NOT 25. THAT'S MY YEAH, I MEAN, A SIDE SETBACK OF 25FT ON A THAT'S MIGHT AS WELL NOT HAVE SETBACK. YEAH. AND THAT'S UP FOR COUNCIL DECISION I MEAN IT LET'S GET IMPACT INPUT FROM EVERYONE. SO YOU'RE SAYING THE FOUR DEPTH FRONT SIDE SIDE ADJACENT TO STREET. WHY NOT THE REAR AS WELL. YEAH. LIKE INSTEAD OF HAVING IT INSTEAD OF. SO WHERE WE HAVE FOR AG IT'S 100 IN RURAL RESIDENTIAL FOR THE FRONT IT'S 50. MAKE IT 50 STRAIGHT DOWN THE LINE. IF WE'RE GOING TO COPY FROM RURAL RESIDENTIAL INSTEAD OF DOING 50, 25, 2540 WHERE WHERE IT'S 100, MAKE ALL THOSE 50. IF WE WANT TO PLAY WITH THE SETBACK, I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY FINE AT 100, BUT I DON'T HAVE 25 ACRES. SO SO WE KIND OF HAVE TWO PATHS. DO WE SET THOSE NUMBERS? I'VE HEARD THREE FOR JUST COPY AND PASTING THOSE SETBACKS I'VE HEARD ARGUMENTS FOR, AND I TEND TO AGREE WITH THOSE. BUT I WANT TO GET THE CONSENSUS AS WELL. SO I, I'M OKAY MOVING TO COPY PASTE. YOU HEARD FOR FOR COPY. YEAH. WELL THAT'S A YEA EITHER. YEAH.D WITH THAT. SO CAN CAN YOU GET THERE ON COPY PASTE. OKAY. WELL I THINK THE, THE OTHER, THE OTHER SIDES OF THAT YOU KNOW THE LOT REQUIREMENTS ARE MORE BENEFICIAL WHEN IT HEADS TOWARDS AGRICULTURAL, YOU KNOW, [00:30:06] SMALLER DWELLING SIZE, MAXIMUM COLOR COVERAGE SMALLER. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE THERE BECOMES LIKE THE THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF AGRICULTURAL STRUCTURE. SO I THINK THE REST THEN BENEFIT THE MOVE. YEAH. AND IF IT'S A SILO IT CAN GO UP TO OR A BARN CAN GO UP TO 50FT IN AG RIGHT. YEAH. WE'D LOVE TO HAVE ANOTHER ICONIC BARN IN NORTH LAKE SINCE ONE GOT TORN DOWN. SO. OKAY, STAFF, IS THAT PRETTY CLEAR DIRECTION I THINK. COPY PASTE AND $100. SUP. YES, SIR. COPY PASTE ON THE SETBACKS. JUST TO BE CLEAR, COUNCIL, ANY OTHER FEEDBACK FOR PENS THAT LINDA CAN TAKE BACK TO HER GROUP? NO REASON. ALL THE COMPLICATED. YEAH. OKAY. THANKS TO ALL OF US FOR MAKING THAT DECISION. YEAH I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY COMING TOGETHER ON THIS. WE HAD SOME RESIDENTS THAT WERE NOT VERY HAPPY WITH THE NEW SETBACKS, AND I THINK THIS WILL SATISFY MANY OF THEM. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND DISCUSSION ON THIS. IT'S GOOD TO HAVE THESE DISCUSSIONS IN PUBLIC SO THE PUBLIC CAN SEE WHERE COUNCIL IS AND HOW WE'RE TRYING TO HELP OUR RESIDENTS. OKAY. IF THAT FINALIZES THE BRIEFING SESSION, THEN I WILL GO TO PUBLIC INPUT. [3. PUBLIC INPUT ] I HAVE ONE FORM, MICHAEL, WOULD YOU LIKE. YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE I HAVE TONIGHT. JOEL'S NOT HERE, SO NORMALLY IT'D BE JOEL, BUT. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL. MY NAME IS MICHAEL. I LIVE AT 8132 FLORENCE ROAD HERE IN NORTH LAKE. FIRST OFF, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THE DELIBERATION IN CONSIDERING THE ISSUES THAT WE HAD WITH REGARD TO THE AGRICULTURAL ZONING, IT'S NICE TO BE HEARD. I WILL TELL YOU THAT IT'S NICE TO BE HEARD. IT'S NICE TO TO KNOW THAT THE COUNCIL IS IS CONSIDERING WHAT WE YOU KNOW, WHAT THE CITIZENS NEED. AND THAT'S NOT ALWAYS BEEN THE CASE IN THE TOWN. SO. I BECAME MAYOR OF NORTH LAKE 29 YEARS AGO. 29. RIGHT. I THINK THAT'S ABOUT TEN YEARS BEFORE DREW GOT HERE. RIGHT? RIGHT. I THINK BRIAN HAS PROBABLY 15 YEARS BEFORE YOU MOVED INTO THE TOWN. SO IT'S BEEN A WHILE. JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, THE ONLY TWO PAVED ROADS WEST OF I-35W WHEN I BECAME MAYOR WERE 114, WHICH LOOKED LIKE 407 AND 407, WHICH LOOKS LIKE 407. RIGHT. SO THOSE WERE THE ONLY TWO ROADS. THERE'S BEEN A COMMENT MADE, AND I JUST WANT TO ADDRESS IT HERE ABOUT BLANKET ZONING AND WHAT WE DID WAY BACK WHEN, 29 YEARS AGO, THE TOWN OF NORTH LAKE WAS ALL LARGE RANCHES. IT WASN'T DEVELOPMENT WE HAD. WE HAD A LITTLE BIT IN BRIAN'S PLACE. WE HAD A LITTLE BIT IN BINGHAM, BUT THOSE WERE ALL FIVE ACRES PLUS. THE TEXAS MOTOR SPEEDWAY WAS ANNOUNCED IN NORTH LAKE, BECAME VERY HOT PROPERTY, AND SEVERAL OF THE TOWNS FLOWER MOUND, FORT WORTH, DENTON, JUSTIN, ARGYLE, ROANOKE ALL DECIDED THAT NORTH LAKE WAS PROPERTY THAT BELONGED TO THEIR TOWNS, AND IN ORDER TO NOT BE SWEPT UP BY EVERYONE ELSE, WE NEEDED TO VERY QUICKLY BECOME A REAL QUOTE, A REAL TOWN. ONE OF THOSE COMPLAINTS THAT WAS FILED IN THE LEGAL PROCEEDINGS AGAINST NORTH LAKE THAT WE WEREN'T A TOWN WAS THAT WE WERE NOT ZONED. AND THAT WAS VERY TRUE. WE WERE NOT ZONED, WE DID NOT HAVE ZONING, WE JUST HAD RANCHES. AND SO AT THE TIME, IT WAS REALLY EASY. IT'S NOT LIKE NORTH LAKE IS TODAY. WE HAD 250 PEOPLE LIVED IN THE TOWN, SO WE HAD A BIG OPEN MEETING. RIGHT? WE HAD A TOWN HALL MEETING. WE BROUGHT EVERYBODY TOGETHER AND WE SAID, OKAY, HERE'S WHERE WE ARE. WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO? AND WE TALKED ABOUT WE COULD GO AND JOIN ANOTHER TOWN. WE COULD DO A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT THINGS. AND THE DECISION WAS MADE BY THE CITIZENS, NOT BY THE COUNCIL. I WAS MAYOR, I DID NOT HAVE A VOTE. JUST SO YOU KNOW, BACK THEN WE HAD FIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE MAYOR MAYOR DIDN'T VOTE, BUT THE CITIZENS DECIDED, NO, WE WANT TO BE A TOWN. AND IN ORDER TO BE A TOWN, WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO? AND THE FIRST THING OUR CITY ATTORNEY SAID WAS, OKAY, WE NEED TO ZONE THE TOWN. AND SO AS AS MAYOR HAS BROUGHT UP A COUPLE OF TIMES, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S CLEAR ON THIS. WE TALKED, WE DID WHAT'S CALLED BLANKET ZONING. WE DID IT WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE CITIZENS OF THE TOWN. WE DID NOT BLANKET ZONE ANYONE WHO SAID NO. EVERYBODY SAID YES. AND SO WE ISSUED A BLANKET ZONING ON RURAL RESIDENTIAL FOR THE ENTIRE CITY OF NORTH LAKE. IT BECAME A HOLDING ZONING. ANYBODY WHO CAME IN, ALEX, AS YOU WERE ASKING, ANYBODY WHO TRIED TO, YOU KNOW, ANNEX IN OR ANYTHING ELSE, THEY CAME IN UNDER THE ZONING. THE ISSUE THAT I'VE HAD WITH THE STUFF THAT YOU'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW IS THAT THIS IS NOT BLANKET ZONING, IT'S FORCED ZONING. IT'S ZONING WHERE YOU'RE GOING INTO PEOPLE THAT ARE ALREADY ZONED AND YOU'RE FORCIBLY CHANGING THE ZONING OF THEIR PROPERTY. ONCE AGAIN, I'M NOT [00:35:02] NECESSARILY OPPOSED TO THE AGRICULTURAL ZONING. I AM OPPOSED TO FORCE ZONING BECAUSE I BELIEVE AS A CITIZEN LIVING IN THE TOWN OF NORTH LAKE, I SHOULD HAVE THE OPTION OF BEING GRANDFATHERED IN. I SHOULD HAVE THE OPTION OF BEING ABLE TO DECIDE WHAT ZONING IS ON MY PROPERTY. I DON'T BELIEVE THE CITY COUNCIL SHOULD BE ABLE TO GO AROUND AND TELL PEOPLE YOU NEED TO REZONE. IT WOULD BE NO DIFFERENT THAN IF YOU HAD. HILL WOULD COME IN AND SAY, I WANT TO TAKE THE THE BARN RIGHT NEXT TO THE MARKET SQUARE AND PECAN SQUARE, AND I WANT TO TURN IT INTO AN INDUSTRIAL SHOP, OR I WANT TO TURN IT INTO APARTMENTS. AND YOU, THE CITIZENS, HAVE NOTHING TO SAY ABOUT IT. SO WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL ON THINGS LIKE THAT. SO ONCE AGAIN, I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK AND THE EFFORT AND THE DUE DILIGENCE THAT Y'ALL ARE PUTTING IN. I WANT TO BE CLEAR AS TO WHAT WE DID, BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S SOME MISCOMMUNICATION. MISUNDERSTANDING. THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BLANKET ZONING AND WHAT WE DID WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE CITIZENS AND FORCE ZONING, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC INPUT THIS EVENING? YES, SIR. I HAVE A SMALL POINT. OKAY. I NEED YOU TO STEP UP, THOUGH. THANK YOU. JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. AND MIKE AND I HAVE A SMALL POINT. IT'S ALMOST COMICAL RELATED TO THE ZONING DISCUSSION. MY NAME IS BRANDON BEARD. I HAVE A PLACE AN AFFECTED PROPERTY OVER ON HOLDER ROAD. OKAY. THERE'S A LOT OF OLD WINDMILLS OVER THERE, AND A LOT OF THEM ARE LOOK TO ME LIKE THEY'RE TALLER THAN 50FT. WOULD THAT BE SOME KIND OF ISSUE DOWN THE ROAD UNDER THE. AND I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S ANY WORSE UNDER RURAL RESIDENTIAL. BUT IF WE'RE CHANGING ALL THIS, I JUST I DON'T THINK ANYONE WANTS TO SEE ALL THOSE TORN DOWN OR HAVE A PROBLEM, BUT NOT AT ALL. AS WE'RE PLANNING ALL THIS, I JUST WANTED TO KNOW THERE'S THERE'S NO INTENT. BUT LET ME CLARIFY THAT A WINDMILL IS AN AGRICULTURAL STRUCTURE, AND I THINK OUR UDC SAYS NOTHING IS MEANT TO DISALLOW AGRICULTURAL OPERATIONS. YEAH, IF IT'S EXISTING, A CHANGE IN ZONING DOES NOT TEAR DOWN A STRUCTURE. SO THAT'S WHAT I FIGURED. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU FOR RAISING THE POINT THOUGH. AND CAN I MAKE LIKE A PERSONAL PRIVILEGE COMMENT. LET ME LET ME CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING FIRST. I'M SORRY YOUR TIME IS GOING TO ASK YOU A QUESTION, BUT TO YOUR POINT ABOUT THE WINDOW, THE THE GRANDFATHERED IN IF THEY BRANDON WANTS TO REPAIR THE WINDMILL PERFORMANCE PROPERTY AT THE UPPER PART OF THE. TYPICALLY. YES. THANK YOU. GO AHEAD. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO DO AND THIS IS PART OF MY LIKE LEARNING PROCESS ON MY TIME ON THE COUNCIL, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO DO IS WEIGH WHAT THE CITIZENS OVERALL WANT, AND THAT THIS IS A TIME WHERE NOW THE MAJORITY OF OF THE MAKEUP OF NORTH LAKE, THEY DON'T HAVE A STRONG OPINION ON WHAT WE DO, SPECIFICALLY WITH THE SETBACKS AND ALL THESE THINGS. THEY HAVE A THEY HAVE A STRONG OPINION ON THE ON THE FEELING OF NORTH LAKE. SO IF WE TOOK INTO CONSIDERATION JUST WHAT THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WANT RIGHT NOW, THEN WE WOULD JUST PASS THE THE ZONING THAT WE HAVE, BUT THAT WE TOOK SPECIFIC CONSIDERATION TO THE TO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE MOST AFFECTED. BUT IT'S A SMALL MINORITY OF THE TOWN AT THIS POINT. AND SO I DO UNDER I, I WISH I COULD GO BACK AND SEE WHAT THE TOWN WAS LIKE WHENEVER YOU WERE THE MAYOR, BECAUSE THAT SOUNDS LIKE A VERY PLEASANT, BUT THAT WE'RE NOT BALANCING THOSE SAME ISSUES. NOW WE HAVE TO LOOK AT FUTURE PROOFING NORTH LAKE AND PROTECTING THE FEELING THAT SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE INVESTED AND MOVED HERE FOR, BUT BALANCING IT WITH NOT DOING IT AT THE EXPENSE OF OF PROPERTY OWNERS. SO THAT'S IT. THE FOCUS OF THIS COUNCIL HAS BEEN QUALITY OF LIFE AND PRESERVING QUALITY OF LIFE WHERE WE CAN. SO VERY FAIR POINT. THANK YOU, MISS HOLMES. ALL RIGHT WITH THAT. ANYBODY ELSE ON PUBLIC HEARING. YES, SIR. WELCOME, RAY. HOW ARE YOU TONIGHT? DOING WELL. I WILL NEED YOU TO FILL OUT FORM. AND ACTUALLY, SIR, BECAUSE SPEAK YOU DID AND YOU FILL OUT FORM AND ALL I NEED BEFORE YOU LEAVE AFTERWARDS. SORRY. I LISTEN TO ALL THE STATEMENTS THAT ARE MADE. AND MY NAME IS RAY CALLAHAN. I LIVE OVER IN THE RIDGE. LOVE THE RIDGE, LOVE OUR COMMUNITY OVER THERE. AND I GRADUATED LAW SCHOOL. AND I'M JUST PROBABLY, AS ONE SENATOR SAID, I'M JUST AN OLD COUNTRY LAWYER. BUT I'LL TELL YOU THAT YOU GUYS ARE ALL ELECTED. WE CAN'T HAVE SMALL MEETINGS ANYMORE IN OUR TOWN WHERE EVERYBODY GETS TO VOICE AN OPINION. YOU ARE THE OPINION BASED ON YOU BEING ELECTED HERE. AND ONE OF THE DUTIES YOU HAVE IS THE WILL OF THE MAJORITY. WILL PROTECTING THE RIGHTS OF THE MINORITY. THAT IS NOT AN EASY TASK, NOT AN EASY TASK AT ALL. AND EVEN THOUGH THERE'S [00:40:05] JUST A FEW LANDOWNERS THAT ARE AFFECTED HERE, YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB OF LOOKING AT THEIR RIGHTS AND TRYING TO PROTECT THEM. BUT TODAY IS DIFFERENT THAN 29 YEARS AGO. WE ARE EVOLVING, BUT WE ARE STILL A REPUBLIC, AND A REPUBLIC IS THE WILL OF MAJORITY WHILE PROTECTING THE RIGHTS OF THE MINORITY. AND I THINK YOU'RE DOING A GOOD JOB OF COMING UP WITH A BALANCING ACT THAT DOES THAT. THAT'S ALL I GOT TO SAY. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. ALL RIGHT. ANYONE ELSE THIS EVENING. ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE. IT IS 6:10 P.M. AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO [4. CONSENT ITEMS ] OUR CONSENT ITEMS THIS EVENING. WE HAVE THE MEETING MINUTES. WE HAVE A INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH SEVERAL CITIES TO CONSIDER JUST TWO CONSENT ITEMS THIS EVENING. DO WE NEED ANYTHING? OR I WILL TAKE MOTIONS. I'LL MAKE A MOTION. WE APPROVE ALL BOTH OF THESE DOCTOR SESSIONS AND MISS HOLMES. I WANTED TO SAY I ONLY APPROVE IT IF WE GET COOL SWAP PICTURES. ONCE THEY JOIN. SWAP. THERE WE GO. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. 7 TO 0. ALL RIGHT, NEXT WE WILL JUMP [5.A. Consider adoption of an Ordinance of the Town of Northlake, Texas, amending the Industrial Planned Development (I-PD) zoning applicable to approximately 57.325 acres of land at the southeast corner of Harmonson Road and McPherson Drive. - Case # 25-PDA00004 ] INTO OUR ACTION ITEMS. TONIGHT WE HAVE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS AND TWO OTHER ITEMS. SO THE FIRST ITEM IS AMENDING INDUSTRIAL PLAN DEVELOPMENT ZONING AFFECTING ABOUT 57 ACRES AT THE CORNER OF SOUTHWEST CORNER OF HARMISON AND MCPHERSON. WELCOME BACK NATHAN. THANK YOU MAYOR. SO. THIS IS A 57 ACRE PROPERTY DEVELOPED AS A IRONHEAD COMMERCE CENTER JUST RECENTLY, NEARLY FULLY COMPLETED. IT'S ONE OF THE PROPERTIES I'LL SHOW YOU ON THE MAP. ONE OF THE INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES NORTH OF THE SPEEDWAY THAT WAS ANNEXED IN AND UPON ANNEXATION. AND ACCORDING TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, IT WAS REZONED FOR INDUSTRIAL USES. THEY HAD ONE MODIFICATION. IT WAS LIKE THE MOST SIMPLE PLAN DEVELOPMENT WE HAVE. THERE WAS ONLY ONE CHANGE FROM OUR BASE INDUSTRIAL ZONING, AND IT WAS TO. ALLOW FOR A MINIMUM LANDSCAPE BUFFER ALONG HERMANSEN OF 20FT, WHERE THEY HAD TO ENCROACH IN ONE SMALL SECTION DUE TO A CURVE ALONG IT. BUT NOW WE'RE COME BEFORE YOU WITH A FEW MORE CHANGES TO THIS PD. AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT STAFF INITIATED AS AND HAVE WORKED WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER AND DEVELOPER ON THIS AS WELL AS THEY'VE COMPLETED THIS IN THEIR MARKETING, THEIR BUILDINGS FOR TENANTS, THEY'VE ACTUALLY SOLD ONE OF THEM TO A NEW TENANT THAT HAS MOVED IN AND WORKING ON SOME QUALITY ONES TO COME IN THE OTHER BUILDINGS. SO ONE OF THE USERS THAT WAS LOOKING AT THIS WAS A FOOD PROCESSOR, AND THEY NEEDED TO BUILD A SILO NEXT TO IT, THAT WITH ABOUT 100FT OF HEIGHT, THE CURRENT MAXIMUM HEIGHT IS 65FT. SO I LOOKED AT THE OTHER PLANNED DEVELOPMENTS IN THIS AREA. ALL HAVE THIS PROVISION THAT ALLOWS THEM TO GO UP TO 120FT. SO AND LOOKING AT IT THOUGHT IT MADE SENSE. THERE WAS SOME KIND OF GOOD CHANGES IN THESE OTHER PLANNED DEVELOPMENTS, AND IT KIND OF MADE SENSE TO LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD. SO SO THIS AMENDMENT IS BASICALLY ADOPTING THE SAME STANDARDS IN THESE OTHER PLANNED DEVELOPMENTS IN THAT CATHERINE RANCH AREA NORTH OF THE SPEEDWAY. I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU ON THAT. IS THAT FOR SPECIFIC STRUCTURES OR COULD THAT APPLY TO THE ENTIRE, LET'S SAY IT'S 1,000,000 SQUARE FOOT WAREHOUSE THAT COULD APPLY TO THE ENTIRE THING? OKAY. COUNCIL MAY HAVE QUESTIONS ON THAT, BUT CONTINUE ON AND THEN WE'LL ADDRESS QUESTIONS. AND AS OUR AND A REMINDER FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT IT'S YOU'VE GOT THE BUILDINGS THERE. SO AT LEAST FOR THE TIME BEING YOU'RE PROBABLY IT'S JUST GOING TO BE STRUCTURES LIKE SILOS OR THINGS LIKE THAT THAT MAY BE NECESSARY TO EXCEED THAT 65FT IN HEIGHT. BUT IT ALSO ADDS SOME ADDITIONAL PERMITTED USES WITH MORE REFINED DEFINITIONS AND AN INCREASED FLOOR AREA RATIO. CHANGES OF PARKING STANDARDS SLIGHTLY. THESE WERE BUILT TO THE NINE BY 20 STANDARD, SO THAT REALLY DOESN'T CHANGE THIS MUCH. ALL THESE EMPLOYEES CAN HAVE EXTENDED CAB PICKUP TRUCKS WITH A TRAILER HITCH. THE THIS [00:45:01] THIS ONLY CHANGES THE EXHIBIT TO THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, THE CONCEPT PLAN AND EVERYTHING CHANGES STAYS THE SAME. AND LIKE I SAID, ALL THESE PROPOSED CHANGES MATCH OTHER. NORTH, SOUTH, EAST, WEST OF HERE. HAS THESE STANDARDS, CORRECT? NOT NOT SOUTH, BUT STILL, BUT EVERYWHERE ELSE AROUND. SO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION CONSIDERED THIS AMENDMENT. AT THEIR MEETING IN DECEMBER. THEY HELD A PUBLIC HEARING OR NO SPEAKERS, AND THEY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF IT UNANIMOUSLY. AND YOU CAN ACT ON IT TONIGHT AFTER HOLDING A PUBLIC HEARING. MISS KING, I'D LIKE TO CALL ON YOU REAL QUICK. JUST AS A QUICK QUESTION, WAS THERE ANY POINTS OF DISCUSSION WE SHOULD BE AWARE OF THAT CAME OUT OF PNC, EVEN THOUGH YOU APPROVED IT UNANIMOUSLY, WAS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU RECALL THAT STUCK OUT? OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCIL, CAN YOU CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE INCREASE IN FLOOR AREA RATIO. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR THE NON ARCHITECT OR. SO THAT'S THE THE RATIO OF A BUILDING'S FLOOR AREA COMPARED TO THE AREA OF THE THE LAND. SO, SO MEANING IT CAN COVER MORE OF THE SPACE. YEAH. PERCENTAGE OF THE SPACE THEN. SO PART OF THE IDEA IS YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE FLOOR AREA RATIO. IF YOU ALLOW MORE HEIGHT, IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A COUPLE OF STORIES OR MORE. SO THIS IS INCREASING THE FLOOR AREA RATIO FROM 50% OF THE PROPERTY TO 100% OF THE PROPERTY. YES. SO THE FLOOR AREA COULD COVER 100% OF THE PROPERTY. THERE'S STILL SETBACKS AND THERE'S STILL LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS. THEY'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE PARKING. SO A BUILDING'S NOT GOING TO COVER THE FULL PROPERTY, BUT YOU COULD HAVE ONE THAT COVERS 50% OF THE PROPERTY AND MAYBE TWO FLOORS. SO 100% OF THE BUILDABLE PROPERTY WITH APPROPRIATE SETBACKS BASED ON FLOOR. SO IF YOU HAVE TWO FLOORS OR THREE FLOORS, YOU COULD YOU GET. COULD SO THIS FLOOR AREA RATIO WOULD LIMIT THE ABILITY OF HAVING TOO MANY BUILDINGS THAT ARE 120FT WITH MULTIPLE FLOORS. OKAY. SO IF YOU HAVE 100,000 SQUARE FOOT PROPERTY, YOU COULD HAVE 100,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING IF IT WAS TWO FLOORS, CORRECT? OKAY. WE'RE THREE FLOORS OR WHATEVER. ALL RIGHT. THAT MAKES MORE SENSE. THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION, JOSH. I WAS ABOUT TO ASK THE SAME. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR NATHAN? THE SPECIFIC SCREENING AND FENCING STANDARDS, THOSE ARE THE LIKE INCREASED SCREENING AND FENCING STANDARDS THAT WE THAT WE HAVE FOR THE OTHER AREAS. RIGHT. IT'S NOT LESS. IT'S IT'S KIND OF A MIX. IT AUTOMATICALLY APPROVES SOME THINGS THAT NORMALLY YOU'D HAVE TO COME THROUGH IN A SEPARATE PROCESS TO GET APPROVED. BUT IT IT PROVIDES IT KIND OF SETS A STANDARD OF SCREENING FOR, FOR OUTDOOR STORAGE AND STUFF. INSTEAD OF HAVING TO GO THROUGH A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT PROCESS THROUGH THAT. THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE COUNCIL? SHOULD I MOVE THE PUBLIC HEARING? ALL RIGHT. IT IS 6:18 P.M. I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM FIVE. A DO I HAVE ANYBODY WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS TOPIC? LAST CHANCE. GOING ONCE, GOING [5.A. VOTE] TWICE. ALL RIGHT, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE WILL CONSIDER APPROVAL. UNLESS THERE'S ANY MOTIONS OR COMMENTS. MOTION TO APPROVE. I HAVE A MOTION FOR MR. GANT. SECOND SECOND FROM MR. PIZZUTO. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. ITEM FIVE B CONSIDER ADOPTION ORDINANCE [5.B. Consider adoption of an Ordinance of the Town of Northlake, Texas, providing for the annexation of approximately 5.0 acres of land generally located east of Florance Road and 4,000 feet north of FM 407, in the exclusive extraterritorial jurisdiction (ETJ) of the Town. Case # ANX-25-004 ] PROVIDING FOR THE ANNEXATION OF APPROXIMATELY FIVE ACRES LAND GENERALLY EAST OF FLORENCE ROAD AND 4000FT NORTH OF FM 407 AND CURRENTLY IN THE ETJ. THIS IS RELATED TO A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT WE HAD WORKED ON EARLIER, AND IT'S ONE OF THE NEXT STEPS IN THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. I DON'T MEAN TO STEAL YOUR THUNDER, BUT I'M SURE YOU'RE TIRED OF BEING THAT COVERED IT. THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT CALLED FOR ANNEXATION. IT WAS ACTUALLY A VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION PETITION WITH A SERVICE PLAN THAT BECAME EFFECTIVE UPON EXECUTION DECEMBER 22ND. THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING. YOU CALLED AND AUTHORIZED A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS MEETING, AND ALL REQUIRED NOTICE HAS BEEN PROVIDED. THIS IS THE PROPERTY OFF OF FLORENCE ROAD, ABOUT FIVE ACRES, AND NEED TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING. AND THEN YOU CAN CONSIDER ANNEXATION. I DON'T SEE ANY QUESTIONS COMING FROM COUNCIL ON THIS. ALL RIGHT. IT IS 6:20 P.M. I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. WOULD ANYBODY ATTENDANCE LIKE TO SPEAK TONIGHT ON THIS? YEAH. JUST STATE FOR RECORD BECAUSE WE'RE BEING RECORDED MICHAEL SAVOIE [00:50:08] LIVE IN 8132 FLORENCE ROAD. IT'S REALLY MORE OF A QUESTION NOT FOR OR AGAINST, BUT THERE'S NOTHING IN THE PACKET ABOUT WHAT THE ZONING IS ACTUALLY BEING ASSIGNED TO THE POSITION OR TO THE PROPERTY AND WHAT'S ACTUALLY THE PROPERTY BEING USED FOR. SO I WAS WONDERING IF, IF MAYBE WE COULD PROVIDE SOME CLARIFICATION ON WHAT EXACTLY IS GOING IN THERE OR WHAT EXACTLY IS BEING BUILT THERE. WE'LL BE HAPPY TO COVER THAT. THANK YOU. ONCE I ANYBODY ELSE FOR PUBLIC HEARING? OKAY. VERY GOOD. NATHAN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COVER THOSE TWO POINTS FOR THE RECORD, THERE FAIR POINTS, SIR. AND THAT'S A SOMETHING TO MENTION TOO, IS A FOLLOW UP TO THIS. THERE'LL BE A ZONING ITEM THAT COMES UP, BUT THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT CALLED FOR DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PROPERTY WITH LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS AND SPECIFIED THE STANDARDS OF THE BUILDINGS AND EVERYTHING WITHIN IT. YEAH, WE COVERED THAT IN PD DISCUSSION AND THOSE MATERIALS IN THE PACKET. I APOLOGIZE, THEY'RE NOT COPIED IN THIS PACKET. ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT. IS ANYBODY ELSE FOR A PUBLIC HEARING. WE WILL CLOSE THE [5.B. VOTE] PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:21 P.M. COUNCIL I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND MOTION FOR MAYOR PRO TEM LORENZ, SECOND FROM MR. GANS. [5.C. Consider adoption of an Ordinance of the Town of Northlake, Texas, amending the Code of Ordinances by amending Appendix "A" "Fee Schedule," Article 5.000, "Development Application Fees," Section A5.001, "Development Application Fees," providing for payment of a fee in lieu of tree planting ] MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUS. ALL RIGHT. FEE SCHEDULE. REGARDING TREES, WE TOOK ALL FEEDBACK FROM COUNCIL LAST TIME ON THIS. AND NATHAN'S GOING TO HAVE SOME INFO FOR US. ALL RIGHT. YOU AMENDED THE UDC AT YOUR LAST MEETING AND ADDED A FEE IN LIEU OF TREE PLANTING OPTION FOR ALTERNATE LANDSCAPE PLAN COMPLIANCE, AND WITHIN THAT, IT PROVIDED FOR A SPECIFIC FEE TO BE ADOPTED BASED ON THE SIZE, NUMBER AND TYPE OF TREES, AND THAT THOSE PAYMENTS SHOULD BE DEPOSITED IN A FUND FOR THE PURPOSE OF LANDSCAPE BEAUTIFICATION AND TREE PLANTING. SO OUR TYPICAL REQUIREMENT FOR REQUIRED SHADE TREES IS THAT THEY BE A MINIMUM OF 2.5 CALIPER INCHES. SOME OF OUR PLANNED DEVELOPMENTS EXCEED THIS AND GO UP TO THREE CALIPER INCHES. SO IN COMING UP WITH THE FEE, WE BASED IT UPON A CALIPER INCH. AND THE PROPOSAL IS THAT IT BE $400 PER CALIPER INCH. THE FEE TO REPLACE ONE REQUIRE 2.5IN CALIPER TREE WOULD BE $1,000 AT THIS. THIS FEE IS DESIGNED TO COVER THE TOTAL COST FOR PLANTING A SIMILAR TREE, AND THESE NUMBERS ARE BASED ON ESTIMATES FROM SOME RECENT PROJECTS. THANK YOU. I KNOW A FEW COUNCILORS INITIALLY HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT THE AMOUNT AND WHAT WOULD BE COVERED PER TREE, SO THANK YOU FOR COVERING THAT. ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH, QUESTION BECAUSE I, I DO APPRECIATE THE WORK ON THIS. AND IT DOESN'T SAY HERE BECAUSE I MAYBE ALREADY COVERED. BUT ONCE THIS THEN IS ESTABLISHED AND YOU KNOW WE HAVE THEN MONEY IN THIS ACCOUNT, WHICH GROUP OR WHO THEN I GUESS APPOINTS THAT TO DIFFERENT AREAS WHERE THAT WILL THEN BE SPENT. YEAH, THAT'LL BE UP TO ULTIMATELY BE UP TO, TO COUNCIL'S DIRECTION. OKAY. YOU COULD ASK US TO FOCUS ON AREAS. YOU COULD ASK US TO COME UP WITH A PROGRAM. BUT ULTIMATELY WE COME BEFORE YOU GET YOUR INPUT AND YOU WOULD APPROVE HOW THAT MONEY IS SPENT. OKAY. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE KNOW IS COMING IN THE FUTURE IS WE TALKED ABOUT SETTING UP BEAUTIFICATION ALONG 407. ONCE IT'S DIVIDED, DIVIDED HIGHWAY, THAT'S A PLACE THAT SOME OF THOSE COULD BE USED BECAUSE IT'S TREES AND BEAUTIFICATION ARE OUR ROADS CONSULTANT WOULD HELP US WITH IT'S CALLED A GREEN RIBBON PROJECT BECAUSE IT'S GREEN. BUT THERE'S A MATCHING FUND. SO WE COULD USE THIS AND LEVERAGE THIS FUND TO TO GET, YOU KNOW, MORE BEAUTIFICATION, MORE BANG FOR OUR BUCK ON THE MEDIAN IMPROVEMENTS. SURE. ANY OTHER [5.C. VOTE] QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. I WILL TAKE MOTION OR SORRY. DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? OKAY. I'LL TAKE MOTIONS. MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. YEAH. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. COUNCIL. NEXT WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE [5.D. Consider approval of a Resolution of the Town of Northlake, Texas, approving and authorizing the Town Manager to execute an agreement with MASA for emergency and non-emergency medical transportation benefits; authorizing the enrollment of each household to receive such benefits at a cost of $6.75 per household paid by the resident; providing an option for residents to opt out of the program; and providing an effective date ] [00:55:01] HERE TONIGHT. WE HAD SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT MASS. MASS MASA OR MASA? MASA. YEAH. WE BROUGHT A CONSULTANT IN JUST TO REMIND YOU THAT YOUR LAST MEETING, WE HAD A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS. ACTUALLY, MR. WINTERS WILL BE UP HERE IN JUST A SECOND. WATCH THE MEETING PROVIDED SOME SOME FEEDBACK IMMEDIATELY, BUT HE'S GOT A PRESENTATION WE HAVE BASED ON THE LAST ACTION, WE HAVE CANCELED OUR SERVICE WITH CAREFLITE. AND WE HAVE BEFORE YOU AN ALTERNATIVE. AND SO OUR HEALTHCARE CONSULTANT, RODNEY DRYDEN PUT US IN CONTACT WITH MASA AND THEIR INNER THEIR REPRESENTATIVE IS WILL WINTERS. SO BRING HIM UP AND READY TO ANSWER ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL, I ASKED HIM TO FOCUS ON THE RESIDENTIAL IMPACTS, THINGS THAT THE RESIDENTS WOULD ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, COVERAGES, REIMBURSEMENTS, EASE OF OPT OUT. WE HEARD THAT LOUD AND CLEAR. THE EASE OF OPT OUTS. VERY IMPORTANT. SO I'LL LET YOU GET ON WITH YOUR PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. RODNEY DRYDEN HUB INTERNATIONAL. WE'RE CONSULTANT FOR THE TOWN AND WE UNDERSTOOD THE NEED, THE DESIRE TO BRING IN A PROGRAM THAT WAS MUCH BROADER, OFFERED SERVICE FOR REALLY ANY PROVIDER OF EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES. AND I THINK THAT HAS ACCOMPLISHED THAT. AND WILL AND MASA HAVE WORKED DILIGENTLY TO PUT TOGETHER A PROGRAM. THE PROGRAM, REALLY, THAT THE TOWN HAS AVAILABLE TO IT IS TYPICALLY RESERVED FOR MUCH, MUCH LARGER ENTITIES. BUT OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH MASA, WE WERE ABLE TO PULL THAT TOGETHER TO ABOUT. THEY TYPICALLY DON'T OFFER THIS PROGRAM TO GROUPS WITH LESS THAN 5000. SO I THINK IT'S A IT'S A REALLY GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR THE TOWN AND ITS RESIDENTS. AND I THINK WE HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE PRESENTED. SO WE'LL BE PRETTY SUCCINCT IN THOSE RESPONSES. SO AT THIS POINT, I'D LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO WILL AND LET HIM GO THROUGH IT. THANK YOU. THANKS, RANDY. SO ABOUT AN HOUR, RIGHT? I'M JUST KIDDING. JUST KIDDING. SO GOOD EVENING AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EVERYBODY. AS I JUST INTRODUCED TWICE. MY NAME IS WILL. I'M WITH MASA. AND AS DREW MENTIONED BEFORE OBVIOUSLY I WASN'T HERE LAST FOR THE LAST MEETING, BUT I DID WATCH IT AND WAS ABLE TO REALLY HEAR THE FEEDBACK AND HEAR THE DISCUSSION. AND SO A LOT OF VERY VALID QUESTIONS AND DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THE THOUGHTFULNESS THAT WENT INTO TO THE DISCUSSION ITSELF. BY THE WAY, I DO HAVE SEVERAL SLIDES HERE. I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH AND READ EVERY WORD ON EVERY SLIDE, YOU KNOW, BUT IF YOU HAPPEN TO SEE SOMETHING POP UP AND YOU HAVE A QUESTION, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO STOP ME. I'M DEFINITELY HAPPY TO TO ADDRESS IT. BUT MASS IS NOT A FLY BY NIGHT COMPANY BY ANY MEANS. WE'VE BEEN AROUND FOR OVER 50 YEARS. IT WAS ABOUT TEN YEARS AGO WHENEVER I CAME TO MASA THAT WE STARTED OUR GROUP BENEFIT DIVISION. NOT FLY BY NIGHT UNLESS YOU NEED TO BE FLOWN BY NIGHT. OKAY, YOU CAUGHT IT. YOU GOT TO BE CAREFUL HERE. BUT. YEAH. SO IT WAS JUST REALLY THE LAST TEN YEARS THAT WE REALLY STARTED MARKETING TO. I LIKE EMPLOYER GROUPS AND MOST RECENTLY STARTED DIVERSIFYING INTO OTHER CHANNELS SUCH AS LIKE WHAT WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF SOME OF THE SOME OF THE NUMBERS, WE'RE OBVIOUSLY NOT A SMALL COMPANY BY ANY MEANS. WE ARE AN INTERNATIONAL COMPANY WITH A PRETTY TREMENDOUS PRESENCE THROUGHOUT THE CARIBBEAN. BUT JUST OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, TOO, WE JUST REALLY ACCELERATED THE GROWTH JUST BECAUSE OF THE CHANGE IN THE INDUSTRY ITSELF. WHEN IT COMES TO TRANSPORTS, PEOPLE ARE SEEING A GREATER NEED FOR SOME KIND OF COVERAGE WHEN IT COMES TO THAT. AND, YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH PARTNERS LIKE HUB, IT'S REALLY HELPED US, YOU KNOW, KIND OF GET THAT WORD OUT THERE. EVEN MORE SO. AND IT'S BEEN IT'S BEEN A GREAT RIDE, I CAN SAY, OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY FOR ME, MY BACKGROUND, I WORKED AS A MEDIC FOR OVER A DECADE. THE CITY EMS, EMS FOLLOWING A HELICOPTER DID ALL OF THAT. AND SO I SAW PEOPLE MAKING DECISIONS ON THEIR HEALTH CARE BECAUSE THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT THAT BILL. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT ALWAYS BOTHERED ME. SO THAT TO ME, THIS IS THE PERSONAL MISSION OF MINE. SOMETIMES I GET YELLED AT FOR WORKING 12, 14 HOURS A DAY, BUT I REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THE WORD OF MOUTH GETS OUT THERE. SO WHY THE NEED? ULTIMATELY, LIKE I SAID, WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE HAVE THAT CONFIDENCE TO CALL. AND SO REGARDLESS OF WHAT THAT BENEFIT LEVEL IS, IT JUST REALLY, TRULY HELPS PEOPLE HAVE THAT CONFIDENCE TO ACCESS THE CARE THEY NEED WHEN THEY NEED IT. TO ME, LIKE I SAID, THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING. BUT WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT JUST THE NUMBER OF PROVIDERS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, AS I BELIEVE IT WAS MENTIONED THE LAST SESSION, THAT UNLIKE THOSE PROVIDER SPECIFIC PROGRAMS SUCH AS CAREFLIGHT AND OTHERS LIKE THAT, WHERE YOU HAVE TO BE TRANSPORTED BY THAT PROVIDER WITH MASSIVE, YOU'RE COVERED BY EVERY SINGLE PROVIDER IN ALL 50 STATES IN CANADA FOR BOTH AIR AND GROUND. AND THAT'S SIGNIFICANT, RIGHT? ESPECIALLY WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT [01:00:04] THAT GROUND PIECE. I THINK THAT GETS OVERLOOKED TOO OFTEN. AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, 98% OF THE TRANSPORTS THAT OCCUR ARE BY GROUND, AND THOSE COSTS ARE CLIMBING. AND SO PEOPLE, AGAIN, ARE JUST REALLY HESITANT TO CALL BECAUSE THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR COST. AND TO THAT POINT, THIS MIGHT BE SHOCKING TO YOU, BUT 1 IN 4 REFUSED TO BE TRANSPORTED BECAUSE THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT THAT BILL. SO STATISTICALLY, IF YOU LOOK WITHIN THE TOWN, THE TOWN OOPS, TOWN RESIDENTS, YOU'RE LOOKING AT 25% OF THEM ARE WORRIED ABOUT THAT BECAUSE OF, AGAIN, THAT POTENTIAL BILL. SO WITH SOMETHING LIKE MASS IN PLACE, IT HELPS REALLY TAKE THAT TAKE THAT STING OUT OF THE BILL IF YOU MAY. SO THAT WAY THEY CAN HELP HAVE THAT CONFIDENCE. IT'S NOT DESIGNED TO NECESSARILY COVER THE ENTIRE AMOUNT. IN SOME CASES IT WILL. BUT ULTIMATELY WE WANT PEOPLE TO HAVE THAT FREEDOM TO ACCESS THE CARE WHEN THEY NEED IT. NOT GOING TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME HERE, BUT SOMETHING VERY INTERESTING AND UNFORTUNATE AT THE SAME TIME. BUT THIS IS FROM A WHITE PAPER THAT WE RELEASED. I THINK IT'S ABOUT 18 MONTHS AGO. AND AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, OVER 40% OF THE RURAL HOSPITALS IN TEXAS ARE AT RISK OF CLOSING. I WANT TO SAY IT WAS BOWIE. I BELIEVE THE AIR WAS BOWIE. YES. ABOUT A YEAR, YEAR OR TWO AGO, THEY CLOSED THEIR E.R. AND SO IT'S IT'S A REAL ISSUE HERE THROUGHOUT THE STATE, NORTH TEXAS, WEST TEXAS, IT DOESN'T MATTER. AND EVEN IF THE HOSPITAL DOESN'T CLOSE, WE'RE STARTING TO SEE EVEN WITH THE SATELLITE CAMPUSES OR SATELLITE HOSPITALS WHERE THEY ARE STARTING TO REDUCE THEIR SERVICES, OR THEY MAY NOT HAVE FULL COVERAGE THE ENTIRE TIME FOR SOMETHING. SO THAT PROMPTS ANOTHER TRANSPORT THAT ENDS UP NEEDING TO HAPPEN. SO AGAIN, IT'S JUST A VERY COMPLICATED INDUSTRY, AND UNFORTUNATELY IT'S GETTING MORE COMPLICATED. SO WHAT WAS, YOU KNOW, PROPOSED TO THE TOWN IS WHAT WE CALL THE ESSENTIALS. AS RODNEY MENTIONED, THIS IS SOMETHING WE NORMALLY DON'T OFFER TO ANY, ANY GROUP AT ALL UNDER 5000 EMPLOYEES. AND EVEN WITH THAT 5000 OR HIGHER, IT HAS TO BE EMPLOYER PAID. BUT WE REALLY WANTED TO FIND A WAY TO REALLY DEVELOP SOME KIND OF SOLUTION OR HAVE SOME KIND OF SOLUTION TO BRING TO THE TOWN TO REALLY, AGAIN, PROVIDE THAT I KEEP GOING BACK TO, BUT PROVIDE THAT CONFIDENCE AND REALLY WHERE PEOPLE CAN HAVE THE CARE THAT THEY NEED WHEN THEY NEED IT. AND, YOU KNOW, ONE THING I WOULD POINT OUT HERE IS, YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE IT WAS MENTIONED LAST SESSION, TOO, WAS A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE BILLS VERSUS THE BENEFIT LEVEL, WHICH AGAIN, VERY VALID QUESTIONS. BUT ONE THING I WILL MENTION IS THAT THOSE NUMBERS YOU SAW IN THAT PROPOSAL, THAT'S THE ACTUAL BILL CHARGES. AND SO FOR EXAMPLE, SOMEONE WHO HAS MEDICAL INSURANCE, THAT MEDICAL INSURANCE OR THAT CARRIER IS GOING TO ADJUDICATE THE CLAIM BASED OFF OF BASED ON ALLOWABLE AMOUNT. AND SO THEY ARE IN ESSENCE PAYING PART OF THAT. SO THAT AMOUNT IS REDUCED. SO WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT THAT GROUND AMBULANCE PIECE, UNLESS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SOME VERY CRITICAL SERVICES NEEDED ARE GOING EXTREMELY LONG DISTANCE. THAT'S $750 IS GOING TO TAKE CARE OF A GOOD PORTION OF THAT BILL, IF NOT THE ENTIRE BILL. SO AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO REASSURE YOU THERE AND THEN EVEN FOR THE AIR AMBULANCE TRANSPORT, SAME SORT OF THING. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE AWARE OF IT OR NOT, BUT, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL YEARS AGO, LEGISLATION WAS PASSED AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL CALLED THE NO SURPRISES ACT, IN ESSENCE. SO IT PREVENTS THE BALANCE BILLING FOR AIR AMBULANCE TRANSPORTS. SO, YOU KNOW, HISTORICALLY WE, YOU KNOW, HAD THOSE CONCERNS ABOUT PEOPLE GETTING THOSE 60, 70, $80,000 BILLS, RIGHT? WE ALL HEARD THOSE STORIES, WHICH UNFORTUNATELY, I WORK FOR A COMPANY THAT SENT THOSE OUT PREVIOUSLY. BUT SINCE THE PASSAGE OF THAT, THOSE PROVIDERS HAVE TO BE TREATED AS IN NETWORK. SO THEREFORE, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT DEDUCTIBLES AND OUT-OF-POCKET MAX'S AS IF IT'S YOUR IN-NETWORK PIECE. SO THE 7500 MAY NOT COVER THE ENTIRE AMOUNT, BUT IT WILL COVER A GOOD CHUNK OF THAT FOR THAT. SO I JUST WANT TO REASSURE EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, ON THE COUNCIL FOR THAT PARTICULAR PIECE OF IT. AND THEN WHEN WE REALLY START THINKING ABOUT THE VALUE FOR WHAT YOU PAY AND HOW LONG YOU HAVE TO PAY ON, IF YOU HAVE TO USE IT, YOU CAN SEE RIGHT THERE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, YOU KNOW, FOR $7,500 OR I'M SORRY, FOR $750, YOU'RE PAYING IT FOR OVER NINE YEARS FOR THAT ONE SINGLE TRANSPORT BY GROUND, FOR AN AIR TRANSPORT, FOR A $7,500 BENEFIT. IT'S OVER 92 YEARS. SO TO ME, THAT'S A TREMENDOUS PEACE OF MIND THAT SOMEBODY CAN HAVE. RIGHT? JUST REAL QUICK, I KNOW I HAD A QUESTION BEFORE ALSO ABOUT JUST THE CLAIMS. HOW DOES SOMEBODY FILE A CLAIM? IT'S VERY, VERY, VERY SIMPLE. IT'S AS SIMPLE AS ONCE THEY GET THAT BILL OR THEY GET THAT EOB, ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS UPLOAD IT TO THE MEMBER PORTAL OR EMAIL IT TO OUR CLAIMS DEPARTMENT. NO CLAIM FORMS. THEY HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT NOTHING WHATSOEVER. JUST SEND US A COPY OF THE BILL BASICALLY, AND THEN WE WORK DIRECTLY WITH THAT PROVIDER. THAT BEING SAID, [01:05:04] WHEN WE GO BACK AND TALK ABOUT THE BENEFIT ITSELF, WE'RE REALLY GOOD AT, WE'RE NEGOTIATING WITH PROVIDERS AS WELL. SO LET'S SAY THAT THAT GROUND AMBULANCE BILL WAS THAT THEY OWED 1250, YOU KNOW, 1200 OR NOT 1200, $1,250, BUT IT'S ONLY $750 BENEFIT. THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THAT WE'RE ABLE TO GET THAT PROVIDER TO ACCEPT THAT 750 AS PAYMENT IN FULL, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. OKAY. NO GUARANTEE, BUT WE ARE GOOD ABOUT NEGOTIATING THOSE DOWN. AND SO NOW FOR THE BIG PART HERE ABOUT JUST THE ENROLLMENT PIECE. SO AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT IT BEING AUTO AND YOU KNOW BASED ON AUTOMATIC ENROLLMENT WHERE EVERYBODY'S AUTOMATICALLY ENROLLED. HOWEVER THEY DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO OPT OUT. SO TECHNICALLY IT'S STILL A VOLUNTARY TYPE OF BENEFIT WHEN IT COMES TO THAT. THE OPTING OUT IS VERY, VERY, VERY SIMPLE. IT SIMPLY IS. IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T WANT IT, THEY JUST CONTACT THE TOWN. I KNOW DREW AND MAJOR, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS EARLIER. WE HAVE A PORTAL THAT THE TOWN WILL HAVE ACCESS TO. SO IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T WANT IT, BASICALLY WHEN THEY'RE CALLING IT OFF FOR THE PAYMENT, YOU KNOW, IN THE PAYMENT SYSTEM FOR THE WATER BILLING, ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS JUST LOG INTO THE PORTAL AND CANCEL IT. IT'S AS SIMPLE AS THAT. WE DON'T HAVE TO BE NOTIFIED DIRECTLY, ANYTHING WHATSOEVER. IT AUTOMATICALLY GETS PROCESSED IN OUR SYSTEM THAT WAY. EVEN MORE SO, WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A LEEWAY OR A LITTLE BIT OF A GRACE PERIOD, I SHOULD SAY. SO LET'S SAY THAT THIS IS EFFECTIVE FEBRUARY 1ST, BUT FEBRUARY 15TH, SOMEBODY JUST NOW OPENED UP THEIR MAIL OR FIGURE IT OUT, YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON AND SAY, I DON'T WANT THIS. YOU KNOW, THEY CAN STILL CONTACT THE TOWN AND WE CAN STILL BACKDATE IT TO THE FIRST OF THE MONTH FOR THAT. IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT PARTICULAR PIECE OF IT? ARE WE GOOD? THE REASON I WANT TO BE CLEAR FOR OUR PUBLIC, THE REASON THAT IT'S AUTOMATIC ENROLLMENT, IS TO GET THE RATE WE HAVE TO SET THE POOL RIGHT. WE HAVE TO FILL THE POOL, WHICH WE ALREADY HAD THIS WITH CAREFLIGHT. SO WE'RE NOT IT'S A DIFFERENT RATE. YEAH, IT'S A HIGHER RATE. BUT WE A LOT OF OUR RESIDENTS HAD CAREFLIGHT AND NEVER GOT TO ENJOY THE BENEFITS BECAUSE THEY WERE TRANSPORTED BY SOMEBODY ELSE. YEAH. OR ANY. YEAH. AND HAVE A $60,000 BILL. YEAH. AND SERVICE THIS AREA. YES. WHICH WE RECENTLY FOUND OUT. SO IT'S WE GOTTA FILL THE POOL AND THEN LET PEOPLE OUT OF THE POOL. EXACTLY. AND IN SUCH A WAY, THAT'S THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN SET A RATE IN THE INSURANCE INDUSTRY. SO THAT'S THE REASON WE HAVE TO DO IT IN THAT FASHION. WE CAN'T JUST HAVE PEOPLE ENROLL AND HAVE THEM ROLL IN. OTHERWISE THESE GUYS WOULD GO BROKE. TRY AND DO THAT. SO THIS ONE HERE, THIS ONE THERE. SO THAT'S THE REASON. BUT I, I STRESS TO TO YOU AND I STRESS THE STAFF THAT THE ENROLLMENT OR THE OPT OUT MUST BE SUPER EASY. AND, AND COUNCIL THAT'S GOING TO BE UP TO ALL OF US TO COMMUNICATE AS WELL. YEAH. THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY QUESTION. IF I COULD ADD MORE PROBABLY FOR STAFF. AND DREW IS IS THE EDUCATION PART OF IT. SO PEOPLE ARE AWARE AND THEN YES, CONTACTING THE TOWN, BUT HOW AND HOW ARE THEY GOING TO KNOW HOW TO DO THAT. YEAH. SO I WAS GOING TO ACTUALLY ADDRESS THAT NEXT ACTUALLY PERFECT SETUP. I LIKE IT. SO FOR US IT'S WE'RE REALLY BIG ON NUMBER ONE MAKING SURE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE BENEFIT IS, HOW TO USE IT. AND PART OF THAT IS IF THEY DON'T WANT IT, HOW TO OPT OUT. AND SO WE GOT MULTIPLE DIFFERENT WAYS WE CAN GO ABOUT DOING THAT. OF COURSE WE WANT TO YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY ON TOP OF THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE RESIDENTS UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, THE SERVICE THAT THE TOWN'S PROVIDING. RIGHT. SO PART OF THAT IS THAT WE HAVE MATERIALS THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY PROVIDE THAT COULD BE STUFFED, YOU KNOW, IN THE THE WATER BILL, FOR EXAMPLE, NUMBER ONE, NUMBER TWO, OR IT COULD GO OUT, YOU KNOW, LIKE CHRONICALLY, YOU KNOW, COMMUNICATED THAT WAY. IN ADDITION TO THAT, FOR SOCIAL MEDIA, WE CAN PARTNER THERE. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S FEASIBLE. SOMETHING EVEN ON THE WEBSITE, THE TOWN'S WEBSITE, TO DO SOMETHING THAT WAY AS WELL. WE WANT TO BE A GOOD PARTNER AND MAKE SURE THE MESSAGE IS OUT THERE. AS YOU CAN SEE HERE TOO, I THINK IT'S THE SECOND FROM THE LAST BULLET. I'M EVEN WILLING TO COME OUT. SO IF IT'S SOMETHING THE COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, APPROVES TONIGHT, EVEN AS EARLY AS NEXT WEEK, OR, YOU KNOW, THE WEEK AFTER HOLD MULTIPLE KIND OF OPEN, YOU KNOW PUBLIC SESSIONS JUST EDUCATION SO PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE BENEFIT IS AS WELL AS YOU KNOW HOW TO OPT OUT. IF THEY WANT TO OPT OUT AND REALLY WALK THEM THROUGH THAT. AGAIN. FOR ME, I'M REALLY BIG ON THE COMMUNICATION AND MAKING SURE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND HOW THAT, BECAUSE ULTIMATELY IT'S NOT GOING TO BE FOR EVERYBODY. SOME PEOPLE AREN'T GOING TO WANT IT, AND I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THAT. AND I WANT PEOPLE TO MAKE MAKE THAT DECISION FOR THEMSELVES BASED ON THEM AND THEIR THEIR FAMILY FOR THAT, FOR THOSE THAT OPT OUT NOW, THEY WANT TO OPT OUT AGAIN. OH YEAH. THANK YOU. SO IF SOMEBODY DOES OPT OUT INITIALLY AND SAY THREE MONTHS DOWN THE ROAD, THEY WANT TO OPT IN, THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO OPT IN, WHICH IS REALLY THE EXACT SAME PROCESS. [01:10:03] THEY JUST CONTACT THE TOWN AND SAY, HEY, I WANT TO ENROLL IN THIS. IT WILL BE EFFECTIVE THE FIRST OF THE MONTH FOLLOWING WHEN THEY DECIDE TO OPT BACK IN JUST FOR BILLING PURPOSES. BUT THEY DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO OPT IN JUST AS EASY AS OPT OUT. CAN YOU REMIND US AGAIN IT'S ON WHO IT COVERS FOR PER HOUSEHOLD OR PER ROOFTOP. SO IT DOES COVER THE WHOLE THE WHOLE HOUSEHOLD. SO OUR I SAY HOUSEHOLD ANYBODY UNDER THE ROOF. SO IF YOU HAVE MOM LIVING WITH YOU, YOU KNOW NOWADAYS I GUESS GROWN KIDS LIVING WITH YOU AND GRANDKIDS ETC. THEY'RE ALL GOING TO BE COVERED AS WELL AS LONG AS THEY ARE. THAT'S THEIR PERMANENT RESIDENCE FOR THAT. SO YOU KNOW, SO FOR EXAMPLE, THEN KIDS WAY COLLEGE I GUESS THIS IS STILL A PERMANENT RESIDENCE. CORRECT. STILL COVERED UNDER OKAY. CORRECT. YES. THIS ISN'T THIS ISN'T JUST FOR TRANSPORTATION BECAUSE THE THING THAT I SAW WAS THE HOSPITAL TO HOSPITAL. SO IN CASE YOU DIDN'T, EVERYBODY ELSE KNOWS. BUT I WASN'T HERE LAST TIME. THIS IS SUPER CLOSE TO ME BECAUSE A HOSPITAL TO HOSPITAL, EMERGENCY HELICOPTER TRANSPORT BASICALLY LIKE, SAVED MY LIFE. AND I HAVE THE BILL TO PROVE IT BECAUSE WE WERE ENROLLED IN CAREFLIGHT. BUT CAREFLIGHT COULDN'T PICK UP THAT FLIGHT, SO IT DIDN'T MATTER. SO I SEE THE HOSPITAL TO HOSPITAL. DOES THAT MEAN THAT THE COVERAGE AMOUNT IS THE SAME, THE 7500? IF IT'S AN. SO IF YOU HAVE, I DON'T SEE THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF HELICOPTER TRANSPORT BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF MEDICAL FACILITIES RIGHT HERE. BUT HOSPITAL TO HOSPITAL. YEAH. SO SO GREAT QUESTION. SO THAT HOSPITAL HOSPITAL BENEFIT, THOSE LEVELS ARE GOING TO WORK THE SAME WAY. SO THAT 757,500 FOR GROUND AND AIR RESPECTIVELY. AND SO FOR THAT THAT IS GOING FOR THAT HIGHER LEVEL OF CARE. SO IT'S NOT NECESSARILY, YOU KNOW, HEY, I JUST DON'T LIKE THIS HOSPITAL. I WANT TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. IT'S NOT FOR THAT, BUT IT IS FOR A HIGHER LEVEL OF CARE. TRANSPORT. DOES THE CARE HAVE TO ORIGINATE. SO IF WE'RE MEMBERS, WE'RE MEMBERS. SO ONCE WE'RE OPTED IN. SO IF I HAVE A A STROKE IN LEWISVILLE AND I'M DON'T SAY THAT BY THE WAY. OH I ALREADY DID. I'M I'M JUST SAYING IT DON'T HAVE ANOTHER ONE. SO AND THEN I HAVE TO GET TRANSPORTED FROM LEWISVILLE TO PLANO. SO NONE OF THIS IS HAPPENING IN NORTHLAKE. BUT I'M A MEMBER BECAUSE OF MY RESIDENCE THAT MY TRANSPORT IN THAT SITUATION IS STILL PART OF IT. EXACTLY. BECAUSE YOU'RE COVERED BY ALL PROVIDERS IN ALL 50 STATES AND CANADA. CAN YOU BACKDATE 18 MONTHS? UNFORTUNATELY, DOESN'T QUITE WORK THAT WAY. I WOULD LOVE TO HELP YOU OUT THOUGH, IF I COULD. AND JUST REALLY JUST TO CONCLUDE HERE REAL FAST. AGAIN, I'M NOT GOING TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON THIS. BUT YOU KNOW, FOR THOSE THAT WE DO HAVE EMAILS FOR, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN IT GOES THROUGH ENROLLMENT ITSELF, THEY DO GET A WELCOME EMAIL AND THEN THEY GET A SECOND EMAIL. THIS IS THE WELCOME EMAIL. THEN THEY GET A SECOND EMAIL FOUR DAYS LATER JUST WITH A LOT OF FAQS, ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. ADDITIONAL LINKS, THAT SORT OF THING. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE A MONTHLY NEWSLETTER THAT GOES OUT. WE DON'T HOUND MEMBERS. NUMBER ONE, I KNOW HOW MANY OF US GET EMAILS EVERY DAY FROM THE SAME COMPANY. NOW, TEXT MESSAGES TOO, RIGHT? IT'S ANNOYING. WE DON'T DO THAT. IN FACT, OUR NEWSLETTERS HAVE AN OVER A 60% ENGAGEMENT LEVEL, WHICH I KNOW RODNEY CAN ATTEST TO THAT IN THIS INDUSTRY, THAT IS TREMENDOUS. MOST, YOU KNOW, MOST CARRIERS ARE SEND OUT STUFF LIKE THAT. IT'S LESS THAN 15%. SO TO US THE INFORMATION THAT WE ARE PROVIDING IS VERY VALUABLE INFORMATION. IT'S NOT STRICTLY JUST ABOUT TRANSPORTS. AS YOU CAN SEE HERE. WE HAVE OUR MARKETING LEARNING CENTER WHERE A LOT OF THIS IS PULLED FROM IS EVERYTHING. HEY, IF YOU'RE GETTING DISCHARGED FROM THE HOSPITAL, WHAT QUESTIONS DO YOU ASK RIGHT TO HEY, YOU GOT THIS BILL. HOW DO YOU READ THIS BILL? HOW DO YOU MAKE SURE IT WAS PAID? RIGHT? SO, I MEAN, YOU JUST NAME IT. IT'S A LOT OF STUFF OUTSIDE OF JUST, YOU KNOW, TRANSPORT SPECIFIC OR TRANSPORT RELATED INFORMATION. AGAIN, WE JUST WANT TO CONTINUE TO CREATE THAT VALUE FOR THAT. AND THAT'S IT. I PROMISE I'LL MAKE IT PAINLESS. I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS ON SORRY FOR. SO IF I UNDERSTAND THIS IS FOR RESIDENTIAL ONLY WITH THIS PROGRAM, IS THAT CORRECT FOR NOT COMMERCIAL? YEAH. NOT COMMERCIAL. SO CORRECT. WITH THE GROWTH OF AND SOME OF OUR STRATEGIC AREAS OF COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS OR PROPERTIES, IS THERE, YOU KNOW, IS THERE WAYS THAT WE COULD WORK THAT IN TO THE PROGRAM LONG TERM THAT MAY LOWER THE PRICE THEN FOR RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS IN THE LONG TERM, NOT SO MUCH THAT DIRECTION WITH THAT? I MEAN, IF YOU'RE TALKING COMMERCIAL KIND OF ZONING, IT'S MORE JUST AGAIN, BE STRICTLY JUST THE RESIDENTIAL METERS BECAUSE IT'S COVER THE [01:15:01] HOUSEHOLDS. THAT BEING SAID, WE DO HAVE, AGAIN, I STARTED ON THE THE GROUP SIDE AS FAR AS EMPLOYEE BENEFIT SIDE. SO WE DO HAVE A LOT OF EMPLOYERS THAT OFFER A PRODUCT, YOU KNOW, THAT OR A SOLUTION THAT'S SIMILAR TO THIS HAS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER LEVELS, MORE BENEFITS, THAT SORT OF THING. SOME PAY FOR IT, SOME OFFER ON A VOLUNTARY BASIS, ETC. SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT'S ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, AVAILABLE WHEN IT COMES TO THAT. AND TALKING ABOUT OPTING OUT, IF AN EMPLOYER IF A RESIDENT HERE, THE EMPLOYER ENDS UP OFFERING IT AND THEY'RE ENROLLED, THEY CAN AGAIN JUST EASILY OPT OUT OF THIS AND HAVE THAT OTHER SOLUTION AS WELL. FOR THAT, IT'S MORE DIFFICULT TO GOVERN THE COMMERCIAL SIDE OF IT, BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE AN ENTITY THAT'S IN NORTHLAKE TOWN LIMITS THAT RECEIVED A WATER BILL, YOU DON'T KNOW WHO THOSE EMPLOYEES ARE. SO IT WOULD MAKE IT ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE OR IMPRACTICAL TO. AS FAR AS ON THE CLAIM SIDE, HOW MANY CLAIMS DO Y'ALL PROCESS ON A MONTHLY BASIS? WHO A LOT. I OR JUST A ROUND ABOUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE EXACT. SO IF YOU TAKE. TWO 5%. BASICALLY TAKE 5% OF 2 MILLION. OKAY, LARGE NUMBER OUT OF THOSE. HOW MANY DO YOU THINK ARE DENIED AND WHY? IT'S A VERY SO GREAT QUESTION. SO WE ACTUALLY LOOK FOR REASONS TO PAY THE CLAIM. SO EVEN WHEN IT'S DENIED BY THE MEDICAL PLAN DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE'RE GOING TO DENY IT. IN FACT, IN MOST CASES WE ACTUALLY DO PAY WHEN IT COMES TO THAT, BECAUSE ONE TREND THAT WE DO SEE IS THAT, HEY, YOU'RE HAVING CHEST PAIN, YOU GET TAKEN TO THE HOSPITAL. IT'S JUST INDIGESTION. WELL, IT'S JUST INDIGESTION, BUT SORRY, IT'S JUST INDIGESTION. THEY DENY THE CLAIM BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T GO TO THE HOSPITAL BY AMBULANCE FOR INDIGESTION, RIGHT? BECAUSE THAT'S NOT A MEDICAL EMERGENCY. IN THOSE SITUATIONS, WE STILL WORK WITH THAT PROVIDER. AND HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, IN THIS SITUATION, BE ABLE TO GET IT SETTLED. YOU KNOW, FOR THEM, IF NOTHING ELSE, THEY'RE GOING TO GET THAT BENEFIT UP TO THAT 750. SO THE CLAIMS BEING PAID BASED ON WHAT THEIR HEALTH OUTCOME IS, WHAT THEIR DIAGNOSIS IS, NOT US. THAT'S THE SAME. THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT THE MEDICAL PLANS DO. OKAY. WITH US, WE'RE IT'S BASED ABOUT ON THAT PARTICULAR MOMENT AND BASICALLY WHAT ANY LAYPERSON YOU KNOW, JUST I GUESS YOU CAN SAY A FOR A LAYPERSON. HEY DO THEY WOULD THEY DETERMINE THIS AS AN EMERGENCY? OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, BE ABLE TO WORK WITH THAT PROVIDER AT THAT TIME THIS PROGRAM. SO CONTEMPLATE HEALTH CARE ELIGIBILITY GUIDELINES OR ICD TEN CODES OR ICD NINE CODES OR ANYTHING OF THE SORT. OKAY. WHAT WOULD BE REASONS THAT BECAUSE I'M, I'M ASSUMING THERE HAVE BEEN CLAIMS DENIED, WHAT ARE SOME REASONS THAT A CLAIM WOULD BE DENIED. SO IN MOST CASES WHERE WE SEE DENIALS IS THAT THEY SUBMITTED A CLAIM FOR SOMETHING THAT'S NOT A COVERED BENEFIT, LIKE A DOCTOR'S OFFICE OR THE ER BILL. SO OBVIOUSLY WE DENY THOSE. AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS IF IT'S JUST LIKE A SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, PAST SIX MONTHS THAT THEY FINALLY SUBMIT THE CLAIM, IT'S GOTTEN DENIED. NOW, IF THEY DIDN'T GET THEIR FIRST BILL UNTIL 6 OR 7 MONTHS DOWN THE ROAD, WE'RE NOT GOING TO ENFORCE THAT. IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, IF THE BILL COMES OUT TWO WEEKS AFTER THEY'RE TRANSPORTED, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT SIX MONTHS TO SUBMIT IT FOR THAT. BUT THAT'S THE ONLY TIME THAT WE'VE REALLY, TRULY DENIED CLAIMS. AGAIN, UNLESS IT'S A SUPER OBVIOUS REASON. LIKE THEY CALL BECAUSE I HAD A BROKEN TOENAIL, WHICH UNFORTUNATELY THAT HAPPENS. I CAN TELL YOU MY TIME WORKING EMS. SO BUT AGAIN, WE WANT TO LOOK FOR REASONS TO JUSTIFY GETTING THAT AND GETTING IT SETTLED AND PAID FOR. I HAVE A HOPEFULLY DREW QUESTION ABOUT THIS. SO WHEN OUR WHEN OUR ESD TRANSPORTS, LIKE IF THE DEPARTMENT COMES TO GET YOU FROM YOUR HOUSE AND TAKES YOU TO THE HOSPITAL, ARE THEY BUILD AN AMBULANCE CHARGE FOR THAT, SINCE THAT'S PROBABLY A RODNEY QUESTION, STEP UP TO THE MIC. WE'VE GOT SOMEBODY HERE FROM THE. SO THESE ARE GREAT QUESTIONS BY THE WAY. THE ANSWER IS YES. YOU YOU PAY I BELIEVE IT BECAUSE I'M A TAXPAYER FOR THE ESD NUMBER ONE ALSO. SO THERE IS A TAX FEE ON YOUR DENTON COUNTY TAX GETTING AN ADDITIONAL BILL. RIGHT. THEY COULD BE BILLING THE INSURANCE COMPANY. AND WHAT THIS A BYPRODUCT OF THIS IS THE DENTON COUNTY ESD NUMBER ONE WILL BE RECEIVING ADDITIONAL FUNDS THAT THEY OTHERWISE WOULD NOT BE RECEIVING. THAT COULD BE BENEFICIAL TO THEM IN HELPING TO MAINTAIN THEIR COST OF DOING BUSINESS, SO TO SPEAK. SO WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS PROGRAM WITH CHIEF VAUGHN. ALSO, WE REPRESENT THE ESD. SO WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT. SO THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS IF SOMEBODY TAKES A RIDE IN DENTON COUNTY, ESD NUMBER ONE, THEY'RE BEING THE INSURANCE COMPANY IS BEING BILLED. AND SO THIS WOULD HELP OFFSET THE COST. CORRECT. BUT BUT OUR ESD DOESN'T GO AFTER INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE THAT GET [01:20:04] PICKED UP. CORRECT. RIGHT. SO THERE ARE THERE ARE SOME AMBULANCE SERVICES THAT GO COLLECT. MOST DO AS AN EXAMPLE, A LARGE ENTITY SOUTH OF HERE HAD A THERE WAS A PRIVATE AMBULANCE SERVICE THAT THE CITY JUST TOOK IN. THEY WOULD PURSUE, THEY WOULD BALANCE, THEY WOULD COME AFTER THE THE PATIENT, SO TO SPEAK. ONE THING THAT WE'LL DIDN'T TOUCH ON THAT I THINK IS EQUALLY IMPORTANT, THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WITHIN YOUR TOWN LIMITS THAT MAY NOT HAVE INSURANCE OF ANY KIND, THIS IS A BENEFIT FOR THEM AS WELL. SO FOLKS THAT ARE ON MEDICARE, IT'S A BENEFIT FOR THEM AS WELL. SO IT'S A VERY, VERY BROAD BENEFIT. AND WHAT WE HAVE SEEN AND DISCOVERED WHEN COMPARING THEIR PROGRAM, SORRY WILL TO OTHERS. THIS PROGRAM IS MUCH MORE ROBUST AND VIRTUALLY A 360 PROGRAM WHERE AS YOU HAVE OTHER PROGRAMS THAT ARE VERY NARROW IN THEIR SCOPE OF WHAT THEY COVERED, SIMILAR TO WHAT THE TOWN JUST EXPERIENCED. SO WE BELIEVE BASED ON OUR RESEARCH AND VETTING OF THE PROGRAM, THAT YES, IT IS INSURANCE. YES, IT IS A BENEFIT FOR THE TOWN CITIZENS AND RESIDENTS, BUT IT'S IT'S REALLY HAS AN ADVOCACY LAYER TO IT THAT YOU DON'T TYPICALLY GET FROM THIS TYPE OF SERVICE. SO THAT'S WHERE I THINK WE BELIEVE SEPARATES THIS PROGRAM FROM OTHERS. THANK YOU. YEAH, I'M GLAD YOU SAID ADVOCACY TOO, BECAUSE THAT'S ONE THING THAT WE DO ALSO, AND I FAILED TO MENTION THIS, BUT WHENEVER WE GET THAT CLAIM, WE MAKE SURE THAT NUMBER ONE, IT WAS BILLED RIGHT. BECAUSE OFTEN WE SEE THAT DENIALS OR THINGS LIKE THAT RESULT BECAUSE IT WASN'T BILLED RIGHT WITH THE RIGHT CODES AND EVERYTHING ELSE, SO WE CAN WORK WITH THE PROVIDER TO GET THEM TO REBUILD IT PROPERLY. BUT THEN SECONDLY, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE MEDICAL PLAN ALSO ADJUDICATED THE CLAIM APPROPRIATELY BECAUSE, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THEY DO MAKE MISTAKES. AND SO BY DOING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE SEEING THAT WHOLE PICTURE. BUT AS RODNEY TOUCHED TOUCHED ON THE BY US PAYING LIKE THE PROVIDERS, PROVIDERS LOVE US AS YOU CAN IMAGINE. RIGHT. BECAUSE THEY'RE GETTING PAID MONEY THAT THEY NORMALLY HAVE TO FIGHT FOR AND HAVE A HARD TIME COLLECTING. PLUS WE SHORTEN OUR THE REVENUE CYCLE. SO IT'S MORE MONEY COMING INTO THE SERVICE. SO AGAIN YOU CAN HELP CONTROL, YOU KNOW THERE YOU KNOW WHETHER IT'S TAXES OR YOU CAN BETTER TRAINING. YOU KNOW BETTER EQUIPMENT, BETTER PAY AND ULTIMATELY BETTER OUTCOMES. YOU KNOW FOR THE FOR THAT AREA. SO WE REALLY TAKE THAT HOLISTIC APPROACH WITH WHAT WE DO. SO IN SUMMARY, WHAT I'M HEARING FOR THE COUNCIL HERE IS THAT IN GENERAL, WITH OUR ESD, YOUR STANDARD AMBULANCE RIDE WON'T TYPICALLY BE AFFECTED HERE BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT COMING AFTER YOU ON THE BILL TYPICALLY ANYWAYS. HOWEVER, IF YOU'RE DOING A HOSPITAL TRANSPORT OR YOU'RE OUTSIDE OF ESD WHEN YOU NEED SERVICE OR IT'S A HELICOPTER RIDE BECAUSE CATASTROPHIC INJURY, THEN YOU'RE COVERED THERE AS WELL. BUT ON THE ESD, THEY PAY THE ESD SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO RAISE YOUR TAXES OR THEY CAN BUY THEY CAN HIRE MORE. EMTS. RIGHT. SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS? THAT'S A VERY THOROUGH PRESENTATION I APPRECIATE THAT, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE COUNCIL HAS ANY OTHER [5.D. VOTE] QUESTIONS. RIGHT. I, I WANT TO MOTION TO APPROVE IT OKAY I HAVE A MOTION FOR MISS HOLMES. I'LL SECOND A SECOND FOR MAYOR PRO TEM LORENZ. AND EFFECTIVE FEBRUARY 1ST OR AS SOON AS WE GET IT GOING NOW WE CAN DO FEBRUARY 1ST. MOTION CARRIES 6 TO 1 STAFF. I'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO GET OUT COMMUNICATIONS ON FACEBOOK PAGE IMMEDIATELY OR AS SOON AS REASONABLY POSSIBLE. AND I'M GOING TO ASK COUNCIL TO USE YOUR METHODS OF COMMUNICATION TO REACH OUT TO YOUR RESIDENTS AND COMMUNITIES AS WELL, ESPECIALLY THE ONES THAT DON'T HAVE FACEBOOK PAGES, ETC. SO WE CAN SHARE THIS WITH THEM AND LET THEM KNOW THAT THEY HAVE A PATH OUT IF THEY CHOOSE. BUT I THINK A LOT OF US MIGHT ACTUALLY SHARE WITH THE RESIDENTS WHAT BENEFIT THIS COULD BE FOR THEM. I FEEL LIKE I COULD JUST POST A PICTURE OF MY DREADED HOSPITAL HELICOPTER BILL. ALL RIGHT COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR THAT AND THANK YOU FOR [6. EXECUTIVE SESSION ] THE EXCELLENT PRESENTATION. APPRECIATE THAT. WE WILL NOW GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION UNDER 551071551072551087. AND DO WE HAVE ACTION, DREW? WE HAVE ONE DEFINITE ACTION. WE MAY HAVE ANOTHER POSSIBLE ACTION. VERY GOOD. SO STICK AROUND IF YOU WANT TO FIND OUT WHAT THOSE MIGHT BE. AND WE'LL BE BACK HOPEFULLY FAIRLY SOON THIS EVENING. THANK YOU FOR C [7. RECONVENE INTO OPEN SESSION ] [01:25:07] OKAY. 9 P.M. WE RETURN FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION WITH TWO ACTION ITEMS TO TAKE. THE FIRST ONE IS ON THE AGENDA. IS ITEM SEVEN. A AUTHORIZING TOWN MANAGER EXECUTED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. AND WE WILL TAKE MOTIONS ON THAT. MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED. SECOND MOTION FOR MISS HOLMES. A SECOND FROM MR. FOWLER. I VOTE YES. OH, HIS SCREEN IS ALL MESSED UP. HERE. SEE, HE IS HAVING A CONTENT ISSUE ON HIS SCREEN, SO HIS VOTING WINDOW IS NOT COMING. LET'S TRY THAT. YOU SAID YES, SIR. YEAH. OKAY. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. AND THEN WE HAVE SECOND ACTION TONIGHT ON EMINENT DOMAIN ISSUE. OKAY. MOTION TO THE TOWN COUNCIL. A TOWN NORTH LAKE AUTHORIZED USE OF POWER OF EMINENT DOMAIN TO ACQUIRE THE REAL PROPERTY DESCRIBED IN RESOLUTION 26 THREE, AS PRESENTED SPECIFICALLY, .43.0438 ACRE, 190 OR 1900 AND SEVEN SQUARE FEET FEE SIMPLE ON PROPER. SITUATED IN THE PATRICK ROAD SURVEY. ABSTRACT 1063. IN THE TOWN OF NORTH LAKE, DENTON COUNTY, TEXAS, BEING A PORTION OF LOT ONE A BLOCK, A HARVEST TOWN CENTER. RECORDED AND DOCUMENT NUMBER 2025 214 OFFICIAL PUBLIC RECORDS OF DENTON COUNTY, TEXAS OPR DCT SAME BEING A PORTION OF THE TRACT LAND DESCRIBED TO REALTY CAPITAL. ARGYLL 144 LIMITED. RECORDED ON DOCUMENT NUMBER 2006 81504 OPR DCT AS MORE SPECIFICALLY DESCRIBED AS EXHIBITION EXHIBIT A TO SAID RESOLUTION FOR PUBLIC USE AND CONSTRUCTION AND MAINTENANCE OF A TOWN ENTRY. A MONUMENT SIGNED AND I FURTHER MOVED TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 20 6-03. AS PRESENTED. SECOND, HAVE A MOTION FOR MR. PROSCIUTTO AND SECOND, FOR MISS HOLMES. YES. ALRIGHT. MOTION CARRIES 6 TO 0, WITH ONE ABSTAIN. AND WITH THAT, AND NO FURTHER BUSINESS THIS NIGHT I WILL ADJOURN THE MEETING AT 7:32 P.M. THANK Y * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.