Jul 23, 2026 Town Council

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FLOWERS FOR THIS GREAT TOWN OF NORTH LAKE, WHERE WE LIVE AND WORK AND PLAY. LORD, WE DO PRAY THAT YOU WOULD GUIDE US TO BE KIND TO ONE ANOTHER IN OUR WORDS AND OUR ACTIONS, THAT WE WOULD BE TENDERHEARTED AND QUICK TO FORGIVE AND QUICK TO ASK FOR FORGIVENESS. LORD, I PRAY YOUR BLESSINGS UPON THIS, THIS COUNCIL, THE STAFF MEMBERS, THE. THE MAYOR, ALL OF OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT AND. AND FIRE DEPARTMENT AND EMERGENCY SERVICES THAT YOU WOULD PROTECT THEM, THAT YOU WOULD LEAD THEM. THAT YOU WOULD GUIDE THEM. LORD, I PRAY THAT ALL THE DECISIONS THAT ARE MADE THIS EVENING WOULD BE A BLESSING TO YOU AND, AND HONOR YOU ABOVE ALL THINGS.

WE PRAY THIS IN THE NAME OF JESUS, OUR SAVIOR. AMEN. THANK YOU, PASTOR STANFORD. PLEDGES, PLEASE. ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. OUR DEFENSIVE SIDE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE, BE TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. THANK YOU EVERYONE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNCIL. DO YOU DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING TO SHARE

[2.A.Reports and Updates from the Mayor and Town Councilmembers Concerning Items of Community Interest (if necessary) ]

SO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, MIA. IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO GET THEM INVOLVED. YOUNG AND SO QUICK LITTLE UPDATE. I GOT A CALL FROM MITCH LITTLE YESTERDAY. HE WAS MEETING WITH TEXDOT, SO DON'T PUT ANY FAITH BEHIND THE NUMBERS. BUT HE WAS JUST GIVING US UPDATES. HE'S MEETING WITH THE COMMITTEES AND HE'S LEARNING MORE AND MORE THE LEVERS AND THE BUTTONS TO PUSH IN TEXDOT. SO HE IS FIGHTING FOR US. I ALSO SAW AN EMAIL TODAY THAT 407 IS VERY CLOSE TO SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION FOR THE MICRO BREAKOUT, WHICH IS GOOD. SO WE SHOULD HAVE SOME STUFF GOING ON NEXT NEXT WEEK WITH SOME FINAL COMPLETION LANE OPENINGS. SO THAT'S VERY POSITIVE. OTHER THINGS, AS IN THE THE REGULAR BREAKOUT PROJECT AND ACCESS ROADS, TEX DOT'S TELLING US LIKE I SAID, DON'T HOLD YOUR BREATH. BUT THEY'RE SAYING MARCH OR SO WE'RE GOING TO BE READY TO LEAD ON THE MICRO BREAKOUT. AND THEN MARCH, MARCH TO JUNE OF 27, READY TO LET ON THE ACCESS ROADS. I'M SORRY, 28 FOR THE ACCESS ROAD. SO JUST UPDATES AS I GET THEM TO YOU GUYS AND WE'LL BELIEVE IT WHEN WE SEE IT. BUT IT'S NICE THAT HE IS ALSO FIGHTING FOR THAT. YES, SIR. DID YOU MENTION. OH YES. RIGHT BEFORE THE COUNCIL MEETING WE HAD A LITTLE CEREMONY. WE WORKED OUT A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH HILLTOP TRUCK PARK, AND THEY WILL BE JOINING THE TOWN, WHICH WE'RE VERY PROUD TO HAVE THEM HERE AND PART OF THE COMMUNITY FINALLY. SO WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO HAVE THEM THEM JOINING THE TOWN. AND THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT HAS BEEN EXECUTED AND WILL MOVE THINGS FORWARD. AND HOPEFULLY THE TOWN NOW WILL BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THINGS LIKE THE FIREWORKS SHOW AND THE 4TH OF JULY AND THINGS LIKE THAT. WE'RE WE ARE WE'RE ON THE WE'RE IN FOR 15,000 OR UP TO 50%, WHICH IS WHICHEVER IS LESSER. SO WE ARE COMMITTED TO FIREWORKS NEXT YEAR. OKAY. VERY GOOD. ANYTHING ELSE FROM COUNCIL? VERY GOOD. NEXT WE WILL START WITH A BRIEFING OF

[2.B.Briefing - Proposed Water and Wastewater Rates ]

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AND WE RECEIVED NEWS TODAY THAT THE BID ITSELF CAME IN AT 75% OF WHAT THE ESTIMATED COST WAS ORIGINALLY GOING TO BE. SO THAT HAS POTENTIAL TO IMPACT THESE RATES. WE'RE GOING TO RUN THE NUMBERS. AND THEN WHEN WE COME BACK, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE LAST BULLET POINT THERE IN NOVEMBER, WE HOPE TO MAYBE HAVE SOME EVEN BETTER NEWS REGARDING RATES AND WHAT YOU ALL CAN IMPROVE TO HELP MAINTAIN OUR SYSTEM. NOW, JUST LOOKING AT A RATE HISTORY, WE'D LIKE TO DO THIS. WE BASED OURS OFF 10,000 GALLON USAGE AND 8000 GALLON WINTER AVERAGE. THAT'S WHAT RESIDENTS GET WHEN THEY COME INTO THE TOWN FOR THE FIRST TIME AND DON'T HAVE A HISTORY OF A WINTER AVERAGE. WE START THEM OFF AT 8000. YOU CAN SEE THAT SINCE 2014, IT HAS INCREASED DRAMATICALLY ALL THE WAY THROUGH 2024. AND THEN WE'VE SEEN A LEVELING OFF THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, WHICH HAS BEEN THE GOAL OF DOING THESE ANNUAL RATE STUDIES AND THESE ANNUAL INCREASES IS THAT WE KEEP UP, WE DO SMALL AMOUNTS OF INCREASES, AND WE DON'T OPERATE AS SOME OTHER COMMUNITIES DO, WITH A LARGE INCREASE EVERY 3 OR 5 YEARS THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT PREPARED FOR. JUST LOOKING AT ANOTHER VIEW IN REGARDS TO OUR HIGH USAGE LOTS, OUR ESTATE LOTS, THOSE ARE LAWS THAT TYPICALLY DO NOT HAVE SEWER. THEY TYPICALLY ONLY HAVE WATER, BUT THEY ALSO HAVE AN ACRE OR MORE THAT THEY'RE WATERING. SO JUST TO SEE THE IMPACT THERE, YOU SEE THE SIMILAR TREND INCREASING ALL THE WAY THROUGH 24 WITH THOSE ABBREVIATED YEARS THERE AT THE BEGINNING AND THEN TRYING TO LEVEL OFF HERE IN 24, 25 AND 26. AND WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO HAND IT OVER TO OUR CONSULTANT FROM NGUYEN AND LET THEM TAKE IT FROM THERE. SIR. HOWDY, MAYOR. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL MATTHEW GARRETT WITH NUGENT STRATEGIES AND SOLUTIONS. ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO BE IN FRONT OF YOU. ALSO, JOHN STOLE ALL MY THUNDER AND SO I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER AMAZING NEWS. DO WANT TO TALK THROUGH THIS. I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR IT. I ALSO DON'T WANT TO SPEED READ, SO PLEASE STOP ME IN CONTEXT. IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION. AGAIN, LIKE EACH YEAR, WHAT'S OUR OBJECTIVE? OUR OBJECTIVE IS TO NOT GET BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL. AS JOHN POINTED OUT, WE DON'T WANT TO WAIT AND NEED A BIG CLIFF TO CLIMB. WE'D RATHER GRADUAL RATE INCREASES. THE PLAN AS PRESENTED DOES THAT. WE DO NEED TO FUND ABOUT 77 MILLION OF CAPITAL THROUGH OUR RATES. THAT EXCLUDES SOME OTHER THINGS FUNDED THROUGH IMPACT FEES. SO THAT'S A COMBINATION OF DEBT AND CASH. OBVIOUSLY, WE WANT TO MEET OUR FINANCIAL POLICIES. YOU'VE SEEN THAT DASHBOARD A FEW TIMES. AND THEN THAT LAST POINT SAYS WE'D LIKE TO SMOOTH THE RATES IF POSSIBLE.

SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY SURPRISES OR BIG JUMPS. SO AGAIN, OVERALL IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, WE ANTICIPATE YOUR TOTAL EXPENSES GOING UP ABOUT 9% PER ANNUM. NOW YOU DO HAVE SOME GROWTH HELPING OFFSET THAT. BUT OVERALL THAT'S DRIVEN BY MORE THAN HALF IN YOUR WHOLESALE COST INCREASES. AND SO YOU CAN JUST SEE THAT PICTURE EXPLAINED HERE. YELLOW AT THE TOP OF THE LINE OR CHART REALLY IS THE EXISTING DEBT SERVICE BECAUSE WE DO ANTICIPATE SOME DEBT ISSUANCE. YOU SEE THE ORANGE COMING ON IN 28 AND BEYOND. AGAIN, THOSE CAPITAL PROJECT COSTS. JUST TO GIVE YOU THE TIMING, WE'RE SHOWING YOU THE 2026 PROJECT LIST. IT'S COVERED BY EXISTING DEBT. AND THEN WE ANTICIPATE ADDITIONAL ISSUANCES IN 27, 28, 29 AND 31 IN VARYING AMOUNTS. I'M SURE THAT'S SUBJECT TO DREW AND RIGHTSIZING THE OPPORTUNITY FOR DEBT AND TIMING WITH THE FINANCIAL ADVISOR. BUT THAT'S WHAT THE MODEL HAS TODAY, RIGHT? LITTLE SIDE NOTE THERE ARE ABOUT $9.5 MILLION OF PROJECTS THAT'S IN THE BOTTOM LEFT THERE THAT WILL BE FUNDED THROUGH IMPACT FEES AND SOME OTHER OPPORTUNITIES. SO JUST SO YOU DON'T THINK IT'S ALL BURDENING THE RATES, THE CITY IS THE TOWN RATHER IS LOOKING TO USE OTHER FUNDS WHERE AVAILABLE, INTERRUPT YOU JUST A SECOND. THE LEGISLATOR, ONE OF THEIR INTERIM CHARGES WOULD LOOK AT IMPACT FEES. AND THEY MAY THEY MAY DISCONTINUE THE CITY'S ABILITY CHARGE IMPACT FEES. IMPACT FEES ARE WHAT WE CHARGE. DEVELOPERS GROWTH SHOULD PAY FOR. GROWTH HAS BEEN THE REASON WE USE IMPACT FEES. SO JUST GIVING YOU A HEADS UP AND WE'LL WE'LL

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DREW COMPARISON WITH PRIOR STUDIES. AGAIN, BECAUSE WE COME BEFORE YOU, WE'D LIKE TO TELL YOU WHAT CHANGED IN THE PRIOR RATE STUDY. WE THOUGHT FISCAL 26, 27 THROUGH 29 WOULD ACTUALLY BE A LITTLE HIGHER. AND SO WE'VE ENJOYED SOME SAVINGS ON SOME ADDITIONAL PROJECTS. GENERALLY, THE COSTS DO ELEVATE COMPARED TO WHAT WE THOUGHT IN 2030 AND 31. AND SO YOU SEE WHY WE HAVE A NEAR-TERM DECREASE. WE NEED A HIGHER TOTAL IN 2030 AND 31. THAT SAID, HERE ARE YOUR RATES. I SAY IT'S EVERY COUNCIL. I, I LIVE IN MCKINNEY, TEXAS. I DO NOT KNOW OUR RATES BECAUSE I DO NOT DO THEIR RATE STUDY. I JUST PAY THE BILL. SO IF YOU DON'T KNOW YOUR RATES, HERE THEY ARE. YOU DO HAVE SOME VARIATION BETWEEN COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL. WE SET THAT A FEW YEARS BACK, TWO TIMES ON THE MINIMUM ONE AND A HALF TIMES ON THE VOLUMETRIC.

SO YOUR COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS ARE HELPING YOUR RESIDENTS ALREADY WOULDN'T RECOMMEND ANY CHANGES THERE. ADDITIONALLY, YOU HAVE AN INCLINING BLOCK RATE THAT'S GOOD TO SEND A PRICE SIGNAL SO THAT THOSE USING MORE WATER PAY MORE BECAUSE THEY PUT MORE DEMAND INSTANTANEOUSLY. WHEN YOUR SYSTEM PEAKS HERE IN AUGUST. AND SO YOUR AVERAGE USAGE IN AUGUST IS ABOUT 17,000 GALLONS ON RESIDENTS COMPARED TO A DECEMBER AVERAGE NEAR FIVE. I HAVE A QUESTION, AND I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY FOR DREW. BUT ON THIS THE OUR COST, DO WE STILL HAVE THAT PROGRAM WHERE PEOPLE CAN GET THEIR IRRIGATION CHECKED? YES. IT'S ACTUALLY THROUGH UPPER TRINITY PROVIDES THAT. AND WE WE HAVE IN THE PAST SUPPLEMENTED. IF THERE'S A LARGE DEMAND, MY MY WIFE SIGNED UP FOR THE SERVICE. YOU CAN GO ONTO OUR WEBSITE AND DO THAT.

AND THEY CAN HELP YOU ADJUST YOUR SPRINKLER SYSTEM AND MAKE SURE IT'S, IS IT IS AS EFFICIENT AS IT POSSIBLY CAN BE. THANK YOU. THAT'S A GREAT SERVICE. OKAY. AND SO NOW ON TO WASTEWATER RATES. SIMILARLY, YOU ARE CHARGING A METER EQUIVALENCY FACTOR. LARGER METERS ARE PAYING MORE. BUT HERE WE HAVE A FLAT VOLUMETRIC RATE. UNLIKE WATER. WE NEED TO ELEVATE IT, PRESSURIZE IT. YOU DON'T HAVE THOSE SAME PEAKING FACTORS NECESSARILY ON YOUR LINES. THAT'S MORE ABOUT HEAVY LOADS AT THE PLANT USUALLY FROM I AND I OR RAINFALL. SO AGAIN THIS IS AN INDUSTRY STANDARD YOU'RE FOLLOWING ON YOUR VOLUMETRIC RATES. THAT SAID, AND WE SHOW YOU THIS ALL THE TIME. I LIKE TO CALL IT A BURNING PLATFORM. WHY CAN'T WE JUST LEAVE RATES THE SAME? WELL, IF WE DO THAT, THE PLAN BREAKS. YOU CAN GET THROUGH A FEW YEARS, YOU CAN LIMP THROUGH 27. YOU COULD UNDERSHOOT YOUR DEBT SERVICE COVERAGE. BUT THE RATING AGENCIES DON'T LIKE THAT IN 28. BUT THEN YOU'LL SEE YOU'RE BELOW YOUR DAYS CASH OR RESERVE BALANCE BY 29. SO NOT THE PLAN OF CHOICE. BUT WE DO LIKE TO SHOW YOU SORT OF WHAT THE READ LOOKS LIKE BEFORE WE SHOW YOU THE SOLUTION. WHAT WE HAVE ON THIS SLIDE IS COMPARISON. THE 2025 STUDY, WE HAD ANTICIPATED RATE INCREASES IN 27 OF 5.75%, AGAIN IN 28, FIVE AND A HALF, FOUR AND FOUR FOR THE SUBSEQUENT YEARS. WE'RE NOW RECOMMENDING A LEVEL FIVE.

SO IN THE FIRST FEW YEARS, WE'RE ACTUALLY RECOMMENDING A LOWER PERCENTAGE THAN WE THOUGHT LAST YEAR. BUT TO MAINTAIN THAT GOING INTO 2030 AND 31, AS I PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED, YOUR COSTS ARE A LITTLE HIGHER IN THOSE TWO YEARS THAN WHAT WE PROJECTED LAST YEAR. SO WE'RE SUGGESTING 5% HOLD THROUGH THE FIVE YEARS. AND I SHOULD THAT CHANGE BY 2031, THAT COUNCIL CAN DECIDE THEN TO CHANGE THAT. BUT THAT'S WHAT THE HORIZON LOOKS LIKE FOR US TODAY. WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE DRIVER AND LOWER COST NOW? BUT YOU'RE YOU'RE SEEING HIGHER IN 2030 AND 31 OVERALL, IT'S YOUR WHOLESALE COST. OKAY. I THINK WE HAVE SOME NEAR-TERM SAVINGS ON SOME THINGS THAT WE ANTICIPATED. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A MAJOR SIP DELTA DREW THAT YOU WOULD SPEAK TO. COULD YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION? JOSH? YOU SAID THE PROJECTIONS WHERE SIX YEARS. ALL RIGHT. THEN STARTING IN 20 20, 20, 30, 31. YEAH. THERE IS ALSO A SHORT TERM. YEAH, YEAH. MY NEAR-TERM NOTES ARE WE HAVE LESS CASH CAPITAL EXPECTED, RIGHT OVERALL, WHICH MEANS WE'RE GOING TO DEBT FINANCE MORE OR WE HAVE LESS TOTAL CAPITAL. I DON'T REMEMBER THE DELTA. THERE WAS A BIG ONE OF THE ONE OF THE CONTRIBUTING FACTORS IS TRA TRINITY RIVER

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IT'S SUBJECT TO A LOT OF THINGS. WE HAVE SOME CONFIDENCE IN YEAR ONE, A LITTLE LESS THAN TWO.

AND BY YEAR FIVE WE'RE HOPEFUL. I, I KNOW THAT DOESN'T GIVE YOU A LOT OF CONFIDENCE, BUT WE HAVE TO MAKE A PROJECTION SO THAT THIS COUNCIL AND FUTURE COUNCILS DON'T THINK JUST NEAR TERM. SO WE'RE TRYING TO STRETCH THIS TO FIVE. SO AGAIN THIS IS YOUR DASHBOARD AS A UTILITY OPERATOR RIGHT. EFFECTIVELY YOU'RE MANAGING THIS UTILITY. SO THESE ARE YOUR FINANCIAL METRICS WITH THAT 5%. THEY ARE ALL EFFECTIVELY ACHIEVED. YOU'LL SEE THAT WE GET CLOSE TO THE LINE. A 1.0 DEBT SERVICE COVERAGE THAT'S JUST PAYING YOUR OPERATIONS AND YOU'RE DEAD IN THAT YEAR. THAT IS OUR MINIMUM. AND WHILE WE ASPIRE TO A 1.1, WE'RE ABLE TO BOUNCE BACK EVEN WITH THAT SAME 5% INCREASE BY YEAR FIVE AND HIT THE 1.13 DEBT SERVICE COVERAGE. THAT SAID, WE WE BOUNCE AROUND A LITTLE BIT IN RESERVE BALANCE. WE'RE OVER IN THE FIRST FEW YEARS, BUT WE FALL RIGHT WITHIN OUR COMFORT BETWEEN OUR MINIMUM AND OUR TARGET BY YEAR FIVE. SO AGAIN, THAT'S WHAT A SMOOTH RATE PLAN CAN DO. IT'S GOING TO HAVE A LITTLE VARIABILITY YEAR TO YEAR, BUT IT KEEPS YOU KIND OF BETWEEN THE LINES USUALLY. ALL RIGHT. WHAT MAY REALLY MATTER TO YOU. YOU ALREADY SAW ONE VERSION WITH JOHN. I HAVE A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT VERSION BECAUSE IT'S 8000 GALLONS AND 5000 OF WINTER AVERAGE USE. BUT THAT BILL PAYER TODAY PAYING 166 50, THE INCREASE NEXT YEAR WILL BE $8.70, RISING TO 175 20.

AND THEN BY 2031, IT WILL BE JUST OVER 200 AT 213 AND $0.20. A COMMERCIAL BILL PAYER, JUST ASSUMING 25,000 GALLONS. WATER AND WASTEWATER CURRENTLY PAYING $668 TO $35 INCREASE GOING INTO 27 FOR A TOTAL BILL OF 703. RIGHT NOW, HERE'S HOW IT SHAKES OUT RELATIVE TO A COMPARATOR GROUP. AGAIN, SAME CONSUMPTION FOR THE RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMER. 8000 GALLONS OF WATER USE 5000 OF WASTEWATER. SOME DON'T HAVE A WINTER AVERAGE. SO WE MADE THOSE ASSUMPTIONS HERE. BUT RELATIVE POSITION IS UNCHANGED. BUT IT'S WORTH NOTING EVERYONE ELSE FLOWING INTO A REGIONAL SYSTEM IS GETTING A BILL LIKE YOU ARE, AND THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE SOME RATE DECISIONS. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S TODAY AND HOW MUCH IT WILL BE TOMORROW, BUT WE'RE COMPARING YOUR 27 RATES EFFECTIVE JANUARY 1ST OF 2027, WITH RATES THAT ARE EFFECTIVE TODAY FOR ALL THESE COMPARATORS. SO I DON'T KNOW THAT YOUR RELATIVE POSITION AT THE TOP WILL CHANGE, BUT I DO THINK EVERYONE ELSE WILL HAVE AN ADJUSTMENT. YES. MAYOR, CAN WE MAKE SURE TO DOUBLE CHECK SOME OF THESE RATES? BECAUSE I KNOW LAST YEAR, AFTER WE DID, JUST AFTER WE CHANGED OUR RATES, JUSTIN WENT UP EXPONENTIALLY. AND THEY SHOULD LITERALLY BE AT THE TOP OF THE LIST, RIGHT? WE, WE DOUBLE CHECKED THAT WE'RE, WE'RE STILL VERIFYING THAT, BUT YES, WE, WE WILL DO THAT. AND, AND, YOU KNOW, NOW NORTH LAKE IS KIND OF A LEADER IN THE AREA.

AND SO A LOT OF, A LOT OF OTHER CITIES FOLLOW US NOW. WE, WE FOLLOWED OTHERS TEN, 15 YEARS AGO. BUT, BUT YES, WE'LL, WE'LL MAKE SURE THESE ARE ALL UPDATED. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. HOW MANY OF THESE TOWNS. I DON'T THINK ANY UP THERE. I DON'T KNOW OF ANY THAT THAT DO OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. MOST ARE PURCHASERS. I KNOW PROSPER'S IN NORTH TEXAS AND UPPER TRINITY FOR WATER.

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SO IT'S A HUGE WATER SERVICE AREA. SO WE JUST HAD TO PICK ONE REPRESENTATIVE, THE MOST COMMON BILL TYPE THERE. BUT THAT'S A SPECIAL UTILITY DISTRICT, DIFFERENT ANIMAL ALTOGETHER. DID YOU TRUE. DID YOU SAY SOME OF THESE TOWNS ARE SUBSIDIZING THEIR WATER BILLS OR WE'RE NOT SURE IF THEY ARE. WE'RE NOT SURE. I WE TAKE IN TROPHY CLUB OFF THERE BECAUSE THEY HAVE A A MUD. AND I DO BELIEVE THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A A PROPERTY TAX THERE. BUT WE TOOK THAT OUT OF THE COMPARISON BECAUSE IT WASN'T AN APPLES TO APPLES, BUT. I'M NOT THEY MAY I DON'T I DON'T KNOW IF THEY DO OR NOT, BUT WE COULD VERIFY THAT AS WELL. YEAH, I JUST WOULD, I WOULD APPRECIATE JUST MORE DETAIL TO ANSWER TO OUR RESIDENTS. SO LIKE YOU'RE SAYING, THE UPDATED PRICE AND COST OF IT AND TO SEE WHAT OTHER TOWNS ARE DOING JUST SO WE CAN SPEAK TO, TO THE PUBLIC WITH MORE DEFINITIVE INFORMATION ABOUT OUR RATES, MAYBE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF AUBRY. AND MAYBE, YEAH, WE'RE PRETTY LARGE FOOTPRINT AND SOME OF THESE TOWNS ARE RELATIVELY COMPACT. THAT'S ANOTHER CONFOUNDING FACTOR IN THIS. AND WE WE DO, WE DO PUT QUITE A BIT MORE ON COMMERCIAL AS MATTHEW. SO WE, YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S STILL FAIR, BUT WE DO PUT QUITE A BIT OF PRESSURE ON COMMERCIAL RATES. THE MOTIVE, WHATEVER MAY ANSWER SOME OF THIS TOO, BUT I WOULD HAVE KIND OF EXPECT TO SEE ARGYLL, FORT WORTH, DENTON IN HERE AS COMPARATORS, AS NEIGHBORS. YOU KNOW, WHY, WHY WOULD WE NOT SEE THOSE HERE? AND SO WE CAN COMPARE THE. WELL, DENTON DOES HAVE ITS OWN WATER SUPPLY. YEAH. OKAY. AND SO IT IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. SO WE CAN GIVE YOU THE RATIONALE WHY WE CHOSE THESE. WE WE TRIED TO GROWING COMMUNITIES, EXPANDING COMMUNITIES, YOU KNOW, RELATIVELY LOCAL, SO THAT YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF WHERE THEY'RE AT AND THEY'RE IN THE SAME KIND OF ECONOMIC ENVIRONMENT, ROUGHLY THE SAME SIZE. SO WE CAN GIVE YOU THE RATIONALE OF WHY WE PICKED THOSE, THESE COMPARATORS. I THINK IN THAT CASE, TOO, IT WOULD BE IT STILL WOULD BE GOOD TO SEE AND SHOW FOR AGAIN, FOR RESIDENTS SO THAT THEY BECAUSE THEY DON'T CARE, YOU KNOW, GROWING VERSUS NON GROWING, BUT UNDERSTANDING LIKE, AND EVEN SIDE NOTE LIKE YOU DO HERE WITH WINTER AVERAGING IS MAYBE HAVE ANOTHER FOOTNOTE FOR THOSE THAT ARE NOT LIKE SIZE OR IF THERE'S SOMETHING DIFFERENT SO PEOPLE CAN UNDERSTAND WHERE DO WE STAND WITHIN THOSE AS WELL.

SURE. YEAH. YEAH. I THINK PART OF THAT NARRATIVE IS JUST THE INITIAL CAPITAL. ANYTIME YOU'RE GROWING. SO PROSPER IS AT THE BOTTOM OF YOUR CHART. WELL, I WAS ITS FINANCE DIRECTOR BACK IN 2008 AND NOT SO GREAT YEARS WITH 60 EMPLOYEES. AND SO THEY WERE GROWING. WE TOPPED A LOT OF CHARTS. FATE TEXAS IS A CLIENT TODAY. THEY WERE TOP OF THE CHARTS FOR MULTIPLE YEARS.

THEY'RE NOW COMING DOWN TO THAT MIDDLE GROUND OR UPPER QUARTILE, KIND OF THAT TOP OF THAT RANGE OR BOTTOM OF THE UPPER QUARTILE, BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN MAKING SOME CASH INVESTMENTS AND DOING THINGS RIGHT. BUT EVERY TIME YOU'RE GROWING, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT INITIAL CAPITAL COST, RIGHT? YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET A LOT OF BREAKS ON NEW LINES. THE COST IS MORE TODAY THAN IT WAS THEN. DENTON BUILT A RESERVOIR IN 1950. IT WAS RELATIVELY CHEAP. I'M GOING TO SAY 60 MILLION PLUS OR MINUS. THE MOST RECENT RESERVOIR I CAN RELATE TO IS A $2 BILLION PROJECT IN FANNIN COUNTY FOR LAKE OR UPPER TRINITY HAS ONE LAKE RALPH HALL. SIMILAR SCALE IN COST. SO. SO YOU'RE GETTING THE GOOD FORTUNE OF BRAND NEW CONCRETE ROADS AND BRAND NEW HOMES, BUT ALSO ALL THE BRAND NEW INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT IT. SO THAT INITIAL CAPITAL COST FOR A GROWING COMMUNITY IS A LOT TO BEAR IN THE EARLY YEARS. AND THAT'S JUST BEEN TRUE FOR ALL OF OUR CLIENTS. AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE'VE ALSO THAT WE'RE AHEAD OF A LOT OF THESE COMPARABLE TOWNS AS FAR AS OUR SYSTEM, THAT A LOT OF THEM ARE STILL RUNNING ON AGING SYSTEMS THAT STRUGGLE WITH CAPACITY AND THAT WE'RE TRYING TO WE'RE TRYING TO DO WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ASK US TO DO, WHICH IS FUTURE PROOF AHEAD OF OUR DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S USUALLY THE RATIONALE I TRY TO GIVE, BECAUSE I HAVE TO. I ALSO HURT EVERY TIME I PAY MY WATER BILL FOR SIX PEOPLE. BUT. AND ERIC WHISPERED IN MY EAR, NOT SWEET NOTHINGS, BUT FACTS. MANY

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EXCELLENT. ALL RIGHT. SO AGAIN, THIS IS A LARGER CONSUMER. MAYBE THIS IS THE THE AUGUST OR JULY BILL FOR THAT, THAT TYPICAL TYPICAL HOMEOWNER WITH A LARGE LAWN. BUT WHEN WE DO HAVE THAT SEASONALITY, YOU SEE THE BILL RISE. FRANKLY, YOUR RELATIVE POSITION HERE IS MIDDLE OF THE PACK TODAY, RIGHT? SO WHAT THAT COULD SAY IS WE AREN'T SENDING AS HIGH OF A PRICE SIGNAL ON OUR TOP TIERS. I'M NOT RECOMMENDING AND HAVEN'T RECOMMENDED YOU ADJUST THAT. BUT THERE IS SOMETHING AROUND PRICING, RIGHT. THAT'S IT'S THE ART, NOT THE SCIENCE ANYMORE. IT'S WHERE DO YOU PUT YOUR BREAK TO AFFECT BEHAVIOR? WHAT GENERATES MORE MONEY BUT DOESN'T MAKE PEOPLE STOP USING WATER? WE ARE IN THE BUSINESS OF SELLING IT, FRANKLY. WE WANT TO PAY THE BILLS. AND SO YOU SEE THAT YOU'RE NOT TOP OF THE CHARTS. AND EVEN WITH THE PROPOSED RATE INCREASE, A LARGER WATER CONSUMPTION MONTH, THEY AREN'T AT THE TOP EITHER.

SO WHY HAVE MAYBE THE SIZE THERE TOO. BUT YOU KNOW, AGAIN, SO YOU SEE ARGYLE ON THIS, BUT NOT ON THE PREVIOUS ONE. WAS IT ON THERE. OH YES SIR, IT WAS. I THOUGHT YOU WERE SAYING YOU SAW ARGYLE BUT NOT SURE ABOUT DENTON IN FORT WORTH. ARGYLE DOES HAVE TWO SERVICE PROVIDERS RIGHT. THE CITY OPERATES THE WASTEWATER SYSTEM AND THE WATER SUPPLY CORP PROVIDES THE WATER.

THEY ARE. THEY'RE HERE AT THE BOTTOM. YES, SIR. ABSOLUTELY. SO THE SWEET SPOT IS. WATER TO THE LAST ONE? YES, SIR. SO IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO HELP THOSE. BE IN? I SO THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH SPREADSHEETS IN FRONT OF ME TO ANSWER THAT WITH SCIENCE.

BUT I CAN SAY, LOOKING AT YOUR RATE DESIGN, THERE ARE SOME OPPORTUNITIES SHOULD THIS COUNCIL WANT TO LOOK AT THOSE MAYBE GOING INTO NEXT YEAR OR EVEN A YEAR FROM NOW? SO ONE POTENTIAL IS YOUR RATE TIERS. SO YOUR FIRST TIER IS FROM 0 TO 5000 GALLONS, RIGHT AT 510.

WITH YOUR TYPICAL USAGE BETWEEN 8 AND 10, RIGHT. YOU YOU COULD CREATE ANOTHER TIER, RIGHT TO INFORM BASELINE LIFE SUSTAINING WATER AT THE $5 RATE. AND THEN YOU COULD TAKE THE NEXT STEP SOMEWHERE. LET'S SAY IT CUT OFF AT THREE AND NOW 3 TO 10, WHICH IS THE TYPICAL AVERAGE, IS THAT 640. AND THEN 10 TO 20 IS THIS HIGHER LEVEL. AND THEN 20 AND UP IS MORE PUNITIVE. WELL COULD BE PUNITIVE. THAT'S THE WORD CHOICE AT GEORGETOWN. BUT WE ADDED A FIFTH TIER AND WE MADE IT TWICE AS MUCH AS THE PRIOR TIER. THEY WERE TRYING TO SHAVE PEAK. AND SO TO YOUR POINT, WE WANT TO SEND A SIGNAL WHEN IT'S GOING TO CREATE AN ADDITIONAL CAPITAL DEMAND, RIGHT. AND IF YOU WERE OPERATING A FACTORY AND YOU HAD TWO MONTHS A YEAR WHERE YOU HAD FULL CAPACITY AND THE REST OF THE YEAR 60%, YOU'D LIKE TO SMOOTH THAT? BECAUSE YOU HAD A LOT OF WASTE 40% FOR TEN MONTHS ISN'T THE WAY TO OPERATE IDEALLY. AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THIS IS DOING. AND FOR PRICE SIGNALS, I WOULD SAY BEFORE YOU HAVE YOUR NEXT MAJOR INVESTMENT, RIGHT, AND YOUR ENGINEERS ARE HERE, THEY CAN TELL YOU WHEN THAT TIME IS. BUT BEFORE YOU PUT DOWN THE NEXT 10 MILLION BECAUSE OF PEAK MONTH, JUST TO MEET SOME REQUIREMENT, I THINK THAT'S THE TIME TO START EMPLOYING SOME OF THESE STRATEGIES TO SHAVE PEAK, AS WE CALL IT IN THIS INDUSTRY, TO PREVENT PEOPLE FROM REALLY HURTING OUR SYSTEM WITH A MAX DAY THAT MAKES IT HARD TO SUPPLY WATER AND KEEP THE PRESSURE. SO I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING IMMEDIATE, SIR, BUT THERE ARE SOME OTHER OPTIONS IN RATE DESIGN AND IT CAN ACCOMPLISH DIFFERENT GOALS. I THINK YOU ARE ON COUNCIL. WE HAD THE INTERESTING PRIVILEGE OF DOING A BINGO CARD WHERE WE PICKED THE OBJECTIVES OF THE COUNCIL AT THAT TIME. DIFFERENT MAYOR AT THE TIME, BUT YOU WERE SITTING JUST TO THE RIGHT. AND THESE ARE THE RATES THAT WE CAME UP WITH AFTER THAT EXERCISE. SO IF STAFF AND COUNCIL WANT TO ENTERTAIN THAT SORT OF THOUGHT EXERCISE ABOUT RATE DESIGN, SO I CAN KIND OF RIGHT SIZE TO YOUR OBJECTIVES.

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SO THAT'S A GOOD PLACE TO BE IN PLANNING DATE RATES AND RATES. BUT YOU GOT TO PAY FOR WHAT WE'RE USING TO. AND ONE THING THAT I'VE BEEN PROUD OF IS THAT WE DO, UNFORTUNATELY, GET TO SEE THE NEWS OF OTHER MUNICIPALITIES REACHING CLIFFS BECAUSE THEY WERE AFRAID TO ADJUST RATES ACCORDINGLY AND KEEP THEM STEADY, AND THEN THEY HAVE TO MAKE HUGE CUTS AND MAKE BIG CHANGES. AND SO THE LITTLE BIT OF PAIN NOW, AS LONG AS IT'S REALISTIC AND, YOU KNOW, CONSERVATIVE, OBVIOUSLY, THAT IF IT PROTECTS US FROM GETTING NEAR A CLIFF, THAT WE'LL HAVE TO CLAW OUR WAY BACK FROM, I'M, I'M HAPPY WITH THE LITTLE CHANGES. GREAT. VERY GOOD SIR.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT.

[2.C.Briefing - Fireworks Ordinance Overview]

THEY STARTED IN 1999. THE FIRST MENTION OF FIREWORKS WAS IN 2005, HIRING A CONSULTANT TO

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WE DISCUSSED IT IN AND JUST CONTINUES TO GO DOWN WHERE WE'VE. WE'VE GONE BACK AND FORTH, BACK AND FORTH WITH LEGAL, NOT LEGAL. FIREWORKS ARE LEGAL. AS THIS ONE SAYS, YOU CAN'T SHOOT THEM OFF WITH RESTRICTIONS AND THINGS IN PLACE. YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PERMIT, FIRE PROTECTION PLAN, INSURANCE COVERAGE, TOWN APPROVAL. IT GOES TO THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE AS WELL FOR APPROVAL. AND THOSE ARE FOR THE CONSUMER FIREWORKS. FOR PROFESSIONAL FIREWORKS, YOU NEED A LICENSED PYROTECHNICIAN AND A LOT OF THE SAME THINGS TO TO FOLLOW. COMMON CONDITIONS THAT WE ENCOUNTER AS POLICE OFFICERS. WE GO OUT, ESPECIALLY IN THE DENSER DEVELOPMENTS. OF COURSE, THEIR HOMES ARE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY. IT'S GOING TO BE DRY CONDITIONS MORE THAN LIKELY IN JULY. DURING THE NIGHTTIME HOURS, CHILDREN ARE USUALLY PRESENT BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE FIRE OFF FIREWORKS FOR THE FOR THE KIDS, JUST TO FOR THE. THERE'S USUALLY NO LIMIT. THERE'S NO SAFETY PLAN OR LIMITED SAFETY PLAN. THERE'S NO BUCKETS OF WATER. THERE'S NOT A HOSE. THERE'S NO FIRE EXTINGUISHERS. AND CHIEF VAUGHN'S GOING TO COME UP HERE IN A LITTLE BIT AND DISCUSS MORE OF THAT. NINE TIMES OUT OF TEN, THERE'S ALCOHOL INVOLVED. AND THAT THAT CAN BE VERY DANGEROUS. AND WE ALSO HAVE PEOPLE COMING FROM OTHER AREAS OUTSIDE. WHEN WE SAY IT'S LEGAL, YOU KNOW, THEY THEY SEE THAT IT'S LEGAL. SO THEY COME HERE TO SHOOT OFF FIREWORKS, EVEN THOUGH IT'S GOING TO BE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, THEY CAN HAVE ALL THESE RESTRICTIONS IN PLACE. THESE ARE JUST A FEW PICTURES FROM FORT WORTH THAT THEY'VE HAD RECENTLY. I HAD A VIDEO IN HERE EARLIER, BUT IT KIND OF REPRESENTS THE SAME THING. THERE'S OUR CALL CALL VOLUME HAS REALLY DECREASED 23 AND 24.

IT DECREASED BY 17%, 16% UNTIL THIS YEAR. AND CHIEF VAUGHN, I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO COME UP HERE AND TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT YOUR SIDE, WHAT YOU SEE. SURE. YOU SAID IT WAS 25 CALLS.

DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA, AND I DON'T EXPECT YOU TO HAVE ALL THE DETAILS IN FRONT OF IT. THE OUTCOME OF THOSE CALLS WERE THOSE WERE THERE, WERE THERE CITATIONS? WERE THERE ARRESTS? WERE THERE JUST EDUCATION PIECE? OR USUALLY IT'S HARD TO CATCH SOMEONE IN AN ACT OF IT. SO WE, WE IT'S HARD TO CITE. WE DO A LOT OF EDUCATION BECAUSE THERE'S STILL A LOT OF BAD INFORMATION OUT THERE WHERE THEY SAY, WELL, WE PULL THIS UP AND IN 2021 OR 2019, IT SAID IT WAS LEGAL. SO WE HAVE A LOT OF NEW RESIDENTS MOVING IN. AND SO WE CONTINUOUS EDUCATION, WE, WE USUALLY DON'T HAVE A REPEAT OFFENDER. WE TELL THEM TO STOP. THEY STOP. SO WE WE TAKE THAT AS OUR FIRST STEP. THEN IF IT CONTINUES ON. THERE WAS A FEW YEARS AGO WHERE WE ISSUED A FEW CITATIONS BECAUSE WE HAD TO GET CALLED BACK OUT TO THE SAME AREA. SO THAT'S JUST KIND OF WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW. YES. EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL, I THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE, YVONNE.

FIRE CHIEF, I'M HERE JUST TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE RISKS AND CHALLENGES WE FACE IN FROM THE DENTON COUNTY ESD ONE, JUST AS THE CHIEF SPOKE. YOU KNOW, WE DID EXPECT IT TO BE A LITTLE BIT WORSE BEING THE 250TH BIRTHDAY OF OUR NATION AND BEING A WEEKEND. YOU ALWAYS WORRY ABOUT THAT. IT WASN'T IT WAS BUSY. I'M NOT GOING TO DENY IT. IT WAS BUSY, BUT MAYBE NOT AS BAD AS IT COULD HAVE BEEN. JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND FOR THE AUDIENCE WHO DON'T KNOW WHO WE ARE, DIDN'T HAVE ANY ONE. WE COVER 65MI■!S AND END OF 2025, E HAD 51,000 POPULATION. A LITTLE OVER 15,000 OF THAT IS, RESIDENTS OF NORTH LAKE MADE ALMOST 4000 CALLS LAST YEAR. MOST OF THOSE WERE EMS. AND IN 41% OF THOSE ARE FIRES. I DID WANT TO PUT THIS PICTURE IN HERE BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK DOWN AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN, YOU SEE A FIRE ENGINE AND AN AMBULANCE. THAT IS OUR NEWEST STATION THERE AT DALE EARNHARDT AND I-35 IN NORTH LAKE. WE DID OFFICIALLY OPEN THAT STATION ON JULY 1ST. THAT WAS A BIG PUSH, AND IT WOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED WITH THE STAFF WITHOUT THE HELP OF STAFF. THEY WERE VERY HELPFUL IN GETTING US THROUGH THE FINISH LINE, AND WE REALLY WANTED TO GET IT DONE BY JULY 1ST BECAUSE JULY 4TH WAS COMING IN. WE KNEW TRADITIONALLY THAT IS ONE OF OUR BUSY DAYS. IT'S ALWAYS IS JUST TO GET PUT THAT IN PERSPECTIVE. ON AN AVERAGE DAY ACROSS OUR DISTRICT, WE GET ABOUT 11 CALLS. THAT PARTICULAR DAY, WE GOT 32. NINE OF THOSE WERE FIRES RELATED TO FIREWORKS.

UNFORTUNATELY, SEVEN OF THOSE WERE IN THE NORTH LAKE AND NORTH LAKE AREA. SO JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THEY THEY ARE BIG AND SMALL. IF YOU LOOK AT THE PICTURE ON THE LEFT, DOES EVERYBODY KNOW WHAT THAT IS ON THE LEFT TRASH CAN? YES. SO SOMEBODY OBVIOUSLY THEY THOUGHT THAT WENT DOWN THERE, FIREWORKS PUT IT IN THE TRASH. AND YOU CAN SEE REMNANTS THERE ALONG THE CURB. IT'S KIND OF GREEN, YOU KNOW, KIND OF A. SO IT'S IT'S VERY COMMON. PEOPLE THINK, WELL, YOU KNOW, WE SEE THIS IN THE WINTER TOO. PEOPLE HAVE CHARCOAL AND, YOU KNOW, LOGS FROM THE FIREPLACE. THEY PUT IT IN A BAG. THAT'S WHY I PICKED UP THE CHARCOAL. IT WASN'T HOT.

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FORTUNATELY, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS OUTSIDE, IT WAS DURING THE DAY SOMEONE SAW THE CAN SMOKING.

AND SO ONCE WE GOT THERE, BUT YOU CAN SEE HOW IT BURNED UP PRETTY QUICKLY. WHERE'S THAT TRASH CAN SIX DAYS OUT OF THE WEEK THOUGH? IN THE GARAGE NEXT TO THE HOUSE. AND SO FORTUNATELY THIS WAS OUTSIDE BY THE CURB, SO OBVIOUSLY MADE A DIFFERENCE. GRASS FIRES ARE PROBABLY THE BIGGEST ONES WE GET. A LOT OF THEM ARE PASTURES, BUT NOT ALL OF OUR CALLS WERE FIRES. WE DID HAVE TWO HEAT RELATED, VERY HOT THAT DAY. THAT'S ONE OF THE BIG CONCERNS WE HAD. WE HAD HEAT EMERGENCY ON TOP OF THE. THOSE WERE INVOLVED IN PARADES. WE HAD. SO WE DID HAVE A LOT OF ACTIVITIES. 12 MEDICAL EMERGENCIES, INCLUDING TWO CARDIAC ARRESTS AND. AND THEN. SIX FIRE AND RESCUE INCIDENTS. MOST OF THOSE WERE WRECKS. WE OBVIOUSLY GET WRECKS EVEN IN THE JULY. BUT YEAH, IT WAS A BUSY DAY FOR JULY 4TH. TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE ASSOCIATED RISKS. OBVIOUSLY WITH. FIRST THING COMES TO MIND IS GRASS FIRES. AND AS FIREFIGHTERS, WE'RE CONSTANTLY WATCHING THE WEATHER. WEATHER IS OUR FRIEND, WEATHER IS OUR ENEMY. WE KIND OF WATCH THAT. AND THINGS WE HATE THE MOST IS HOT, DRY AND WINDY. THOSE ARE THE WORST CONDITIONS. AND SO IT'S SUMMERTIME. TWO OUT OF THREE, HOT AND DRY. IT'S PRETTY MUCH A GUARANTEED, WHICH IS ALL WE HOPE IS THAT MAYBE IT'S NOT GOING TO BE WINDY THAT DAY, EVEN UNDER NORMAL CONDITIONS. YOU SEE THERE, 10 TO 14MPH IS HOW FAST THAT FIRE CAN GROW AT ABOUT A 15 TO 20 MILE AN HOUR WIND, AND YOU CAN EASILY DOUBLE THAT IN TERMS OF WHICH IS FASTER THAN ANY OF YOU CAN RUN, AND MYSELF INCLUDED. SO HOUSE FIRES, WE DON'T GET AS MANY AS WE USED TO, BUT WE DO GET HOUSE FIRES FROM THE EMBERS. IT'S TYPICALLY NOT THE PERSON WHO IT'S NOT THE HOUSE OF THE PERSON WHO LIT THE FIREWORK. WHOSE HOUSE IS IT? YOUR NEIGHBOR OR SOMEBODY YOU KNOW. AS YOU CAN SEE THERE IN BRAZIL, TRAVEL UP TO A MILE WITH THE WIND. AND SO WE TYPICALLY SEE IT'S USUALLY NOT ROOFS, IT'S TYPICALLY GUTTERS. WE SEE GUTTERS AND DECKS. THE MOST THINK ABOUT THE, THE, THE PITCH OF THE ROOF AND THE EMBERS ROLL DOWN. AND WHAT DOES IT LAND IN THE GUTTER? WELL, YOU GOT LEAVES AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SO IT COULD EASILY IGNITE. DECKS ARE USUALLY NOT THE ISSUE. IT'S USUALLY WHAT'S ON THE DECK THAT ARE DRIED PLANTS. AND WE'VE GOT SOME FLOUR THAT'S DEAD JUST SITTING THERE IN A POT. YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE JUST, YOU KNOW, ALL KINDS OF, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE ON SOMEONE'S BACK PATIO, THOSE ARE TYPICALLY THINGS THAT WILL IGNITE VEHICLE FIRE. DON'T GET THAT VERY COMMON IF THEY ARE, THEY'RE WHAT WE CALL AN EXPOSURE. IN OTHER WORDS, THE FIRE HOUSE FIRE, THE GRASS FIRE LED TO AND CAUGHT THE CAR ON FIRE. NOT VERY COMMON THAT WE SEE A CAR FIRE FROM THAT. AS YOU SAW IN THE PHOTO, WE DO GET DUMPSTERS. SOME OF THOSE. WE DID HAVE A DUMPSTER FIRE ON JULY 4TH FROM FIREWORKS AND TRASH CAN CAUSE SEVERE BURNS. SPARKLERS. IT'S PROBABLY THE MOST UNDERRATED FIREWORK. PEOPLE JUST ASSUME, HEY, I'M GONNA GET MY KIDS SPARKLERS AND THEY'RE GOING TO PLAY WITH THEM. AND UNTIL SUSIE OR JOHNNY, YOU KNOW, WANTS TO SHOW SUSIE AND, YOU KNOW, AND AND THEY'RE 2000 DEGREES. SO WE, WE THAT'S WE GET A LOT, WE DO SEE A LOT OF THAT WITH SPARKLERS BECAUSE PEOPLE THINK THEY'RE HARMLESS IN REALITY. THEY'RE NOT HANDS, FACE AND, AND ARE PROBABLY THE NUMBER ONE INJURY. WE SEE EYE INJURIES LIKE I HAD A HANDS, FACE, FINGER INJURIES. THOSE ARE THE ONES WE USUALLY SEE THE MOST. CHILDREN MOSTLY UNSUPERVISED SEE THAT ALSO AROUND SWIMMING POOLS. THEY'RE NOT BEING SUPERVISED. THE NUMBER ONE COMPLAINT WE GET, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, IS PETS AND LIVESTOCK. THAT'S THE WHEN WE GET PHONE CALLS, PEOPLE COMPLAIN. MY DOG'S GOING CRAZY BECAUSE SOMEONE'S SHOOTING FIREWORKS DOWN THE STREET. SO WE GET THAT A LOT. OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, IT STARTLES HIM AND IT CAUSES A STRESS. AND AS YOU CAN IMAGINE. SO AND OF COURSE, DISPOSAL IS ALWAYS, LIKE I SAID EARLIER, YOU KNOW, THOSE MAKE SURE IT'S OUT, PUT IT IN A BUCKET OF WATER. LET IT SIT FOR AT LEAST AN HOUR. JUST DON'T ASSUME THAT IT'S OUT JUST BECAUSE YOU PUT YOUR WATER HOSE ON IT. JUST SOME STATISTICS. ACCORDING TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, IN 2025, THERE WERE 13,000 INJURIES FROM FIREWORKS. 10% OF THOSE, 1300 OF THOSE WERE FROM SPARKLERS. JUST AS I SAID, IT'S PROBABLY THE MOST MOST UNDERRATED FIREWORK THAT WE DON'T THINK ABOUT. MOST OF THOSE INJURIES ARE YOUNG ADULTS, 15 DEATHS LAST YEAR. AND OF THOSE INJURIES, 38% ARE BURNS.

AS I SAID, HANDS, FACE. THOSE ARE THE AREAS THAT GET BURNED THE MOST. THEY BASICALLY COULDN'T GET AWAY QUICK ENOUGH. SHORT FUZE, YOU IMAGINE. SO WE SEE THAT A LOT. SOME OF THE SAFETY TIPS JUST BASICALLY SUPERVISE CHILDREN, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THEY'RE LEGAL IN YOUR AREA. ALL OF OUR TOWNS THAT WE SERVE HAVE ORDINANCES IN PLACE. AND IT MADE A HUGE DIFFERENCE BECAUSE SOME OF THEM DIDN'T DO IT UNTIL RECENTLY. AND IT CUT OUR FIREWORK RELATED INCIDENTS SIGNIFICANTLY WHEN THEY WHEN THOSE TOWNS MAY ADOPT THOSE ORDINANCES MADE A BIG DIFFERENCE. KEEP A BUCKET OF WATER OR GARDEN HOSE NEARBY. YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE YOU MOVE AWAY QUICKLY AND NOT BE NEXT TO IT. IMPROVISING IS WHAT WE SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT TO LIKE, THEY GOT THIS CANISTER THAT TAKES ONE LITTLE BALL THAT GOES UP IN THE AIR. HEY, HOW WHAT

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OKAY, SO WE DON'T TRULY KNOW THE THE END OUTCOME OF. WE DON'T ALWAYS KNOW AS MUCH AS THESE TRAVEL. IT'S IT'S REALLY HARD TO TRACK THEM DOWN IF, IF THEY DO PERMIT. WE KNOW. AND IF THEY. IF THEY ARE PERMITTED, THEY'LL HAVE INSURANCE. SO WE COULD WE'LL HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF WHO. IT COULD BE LIKE THE PHOTO YOU SAW THE GRASS FIRE OFF IN THE DISTANCE. THAT'S OBVIOUSLY BEHIND THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO WHO'S GOING TO FESS UP AND SAY, WELL, THAT WAS ME. I MEAN, SO WE DON'T ALWAYS KNOW WHERE THEY COME FROM. SOMETIMES WE'LL HAVE FIRES OFF A 35 BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL DRIVE DOWN THE HIGHWAY SHOOTING STUFF OFF. THEY'RE USUALLY GONE WHEN WE GET PAST. IT'S VERY COMMON. OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE INCIDENT WITH THE TRASH CAN, IT'S PRETTY OBVIOUS. IT WAS, YOU KNOW, IN THEIR TRASH CAN. BUT YEAH, I THINK A FEW SHORT YEARS BACK, MAYBE THREE, WE HAD A FIVE ACRE LOT ON MY STREET GO UP FROM FIREWORKS. YEAH. WE, WE DEFINITELY GET TYPICALLY THE, YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS TELL PEOPLE, MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, THE DAY BEFORE JULY 4TH WHAT YOUR YOU ARE, YOU KNOW, PUT YOUR SPRINKLERS ON, MOW YOUR. YOU DO THOSE. BE A LITTLE PROACTIVE BECAUSE IT'S NOT YOU. IT'S LIKE DEFENSIVE DRIVING, RIGHT? AS YOU PROTECT YOURSELF FROM THE OTHER, YOU KNOW, PERSON. SO ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND NOW WE'LL HAVE THE STANDBY IN CASE THE COUNSELORS YOU BROUGHT THIS UP HAVE FURTHER QUESTIONS.

BUT PLEASE, PLEASE SHARE WHAT BROUGHT THIS TO THE AGENDA AND YOUR THOUGHTS AND CONCERNS AND IDEAS. YEAH, I WANT TO STATE THAT I REALLY DON'T CARE IF WE HAVE FIREWORKS THAT DON'T HAVE FIREWORKS. I PERSONALLY DON'T SHOOT THEM OFF. I WAS NOT ON COUNCIL IN 2022. HOWEVER, I WAS INVOLVED IN THE TOWN, WAS ON THE PLANNING ZONING COMMITTEE AND I LIVED IN THE COMMUNITY. I WANT TO GIVE SOME PERSPECTIVE. I KNOW THESE STATS ARE OUT THERE, BUT I, I THINK ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO SEE OR WHAT OTHER. THOSE STATS BETWEEN 2018 AND 2022, WHEN WE DID HAVE THE ORDINANCE THAT ALLOWED FOR FIREWORKS, I LIKE TO COMPARE THE TWO TO BE ABLE TO SEE IF IT'S GOTTEN WORSE, GOTTEN BETTER, AND SO FORTH. THAT BEING SAID, I THINK THERE'S SOME SOME PERSPECTIVE IN 2022. THE REASON I'M BRINGING THIS FORWARD IS NOT BECAUSE I WANT TO HAVE BEEN ASKED BY A LOT OF RESIDENTS TO GET THIS BACK ON THE AGENDA. IF YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT HOW COUNCIL WORKS, USUALLY THE MAYOR AND MAYOR PRO TEM CAN PUT THINGS ON THE AGENDA OR TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS. I DIDN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE ASKING THE MAYOR AND THE MAYOR PRO TEM TO DO THIS, SO I DIDN'T WANT TO PUT THAT ON THEM. SO THAT'S WHY I EMAILED DREW TO HAVE HIM DO THAT. AND IF ANOTHER COUNCILOR WANTED TO CHIME IN AND THEY MORE THAN WELCOME TO. SO OBVIOUSLY MR. PIZZUTO DID THAT AS WELL. RESIDENTS WERE VERY UPSET THAT I SPOKEN TO IN 2022, THAT THEY FELT IT WAS A KNEE JERK REACTION TO THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT HAPPENED IN 2022. THEY FELT THAT IT WAS SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WAS TAKEN AWAY BY GOVERNMENT, RIGHT? THAT'S THE WAY THEY FEEL. THEY FEEL LIKE SOMETHING WAS TAKEN AWAY BY GOVERNMENT. I DON'T BLAME THEM AT ALL. IF YOU GO BACK TO 2022, WE WERE COMING OUT OF A PANDEMIC. THE PANDEMIC HAPPENED. WE COULDN'T DO ANYTHING. YOU KNOW, WE COULDN'T GATHER IN LARGE GROUPS. IF YOU REMEMBER, THAT 4TH OF JULY WAS GOING TO BE ONE OF THE FIRST TIMES THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE LARGE GATHERINGS IN TOWNS FOR PEOPLE TO COME OUT WITH NO MASK, NO SOCIAL DISTANCING, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. THE OTHER ISSUE WAS YOU COULD WALK OUTSIDE AND WALK ON YOUR LAWN AND HEAR THE THE GRASS CRUNCH UNDERNEATH YOUR FEET. THERE WAS NO BURN BAN IN PLACE. THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN HAD THAT BEEN IN PLACE. WE MAY NOT BE SITTING IN THIS SEAT RIGHT NOW DISCUSSING THIS. THERE'S A LOT OF PRESSURE PROBABLY TO HAVE THOSE GATHERINGS BECAUSE EVERYBODY WAS JUST INSIDE AND NOT ABLE TO DO ANYTHING FOR. SO FOR A COUPLE YEARS. SO WHEN THAT HAPPENED, IT DIDN'T TAKE A ROCKET SCIENTIST TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN FIREWORKS WENT OFF THAT 4TH OF JULY. BUT I THINK THE PRESSURE OF NOT BEING ABLE TO DO ANYTHING FOR SO LONG, AND THEN PEOPLE DOING IT AND NOT DOING IT RIGHT. MR. GANTZ, I LIVE IN IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT ACROSS FROM THERE. AND IT WAS PRETTY SCARY. YOU KNOW, IT WAS RIGHT BEHIND MY NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE. AND THEY WERE WATCHING THEIR BACKYARD WITH WATER HOSES READY IN CASE ACROSS THE STREET.

THAT BEING SAID, IT, I DON'T THINK FROM WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING, RESIDENTS, THEY'RE UPSET THAT THIS WAS TAKEN AWAY FROM THEM. AND I THINK IT IT IS DUE FOR DISCUSSION. I THINK WE NEED TO FIND A WAY TO ALLOW SOME OF THIS TO TAKE PLACE. ON CERTAIN DAYS THERE MAY BE SOME OTHER. SOME OTHER IDEAS FROM OTHER COUNCILORS. I'M NOT SAYING THAT

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I THINK WE NEED TO DISCUSS IT. AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, THIS IS A DEMOCRATIC PROCESS. AND I DO WANT TO MENTION THAT IN 2022, THREE OF THE FOUR COUNCILORS THAT VOTED AGAINST IT.

FIREWORKS ARE NO LONGER ON THIS COUNCIL. SO THIS IS A NEW COUNCIL. AND THESE ARE CONCERNS FROM RESIDENTS. AND I THINK WE NEED TO LISTEN TO THEM. WE NEED TO DISCUSS THEM. IS SHOULD THERE BE OTHER ISSUES WE WERE DISCUSSING THAT ARE A LOT MORE IMPORTANT THAN FIREWORKS? ABSOLUTELY. BUT IT'S PRETTY IMPORTANT TO A GOOD LARGE GROUP OF PEOPLE. SO. SO I ALSO SENT A REQUEST TO HAVE THIS ADDED TO THE AGENDA. AND, YOU KNOW, PART OF IT WHAT, WHAT, WHAT SPURRED IT IS I DID HAVE A FEW NEIGHBORS AND RESIDENTS ACTUALLY REACH OUT TO ME A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, BUT THEN LAST WEEK OR THE WEEK BEFORE WHEN I EMAILED, I GOT ADDITIONAL ONES, OBVIOUSLY LEADING UP TO THE 4TH OF JULY. AND SO I WAS ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE YEARS AGO WHEN IT DID GET CHANGED. THAT WAS PRETTY BOTHERED AND UPSET BY IT, YOU KNOW, AND YOU KNOW, YOU YOU OBVIOUSLY SEE, YOU KNOW, WITH FIRST RESPONDERS, YOU SEE ALL KINDS, YOU SEE THE RESPONSIBLE ONES AND THE NOT SO RESPONSIBLE ONES. AND SO I THINK WHAT JUST EVEN WHAT I SAW FROM SOME OF THE DATA IS, YOU KNOW, EVEN WITH IT BEING NOT ALLOWED, YOU STILL HAVE THE PEOPLE THAT DON'T FOLLOW THE RULES AND THAT ARE NOT SMART ARE NOT GOING TO FOLLOW THE RULES. AND SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THOSE PEOPLE EITHER WAY, NOT SAYING THAT THAT MAKES IT ANY BETTER OR EASIER. BUT YOU KNOW, WHERE I THE WAY I KIND OF UNDERSTAND OR THE WAY I FEEL AND SEE ABOUT IT IS THERE'S ALREADY PIECES IN PLACE WITH DENTON COUNTY THAT LIMIT, YOU KNOW, LOOKING UP ON DENTON COUNTY SITE, THE 1.3 OR 1.4 GRAM FIREWORKS, CERTAIN ONES, BUT NEEDING PROFESSIONAL LICENSES, INSURANCES, WE HEARD ALL OF THAT. AND THEN IN THOSE AREAS WHERE, YOU KNOW, SPECIFIC NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE EACH OF THOSE HOAS HAVE VERY SPECIFIC RULES ALREADY FOR THAT AND GUIDELINES. AND SO I THINK THAT'S WHERE, YOU KNOW, LIMITING GOVERNMENT'S HAND IN THIS A LITTLE BIT IS WHERE MY, YOU KNOW, MY MIND SITS, BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, IF IF THERE ARE OTHER AREAS, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, AND THIS MAY BE AN EDUCATIONAL PIECE, BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE THERE'S OTHER RULES IN PLACE, NOISE ORDINANCES OR DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT THAT COULD BE USED TO HELP ENFORCE THIS OUTSIDE OF NORMAL TIME OR HOURS OR DATES.

IF WE WOULD GO FORWARD AND MAKE ANY TYPE OF ACTION. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IT NOT JUST BE ON ONE DAY SPECIFIC DAY. NOW, LIKE I MIRROR WHAT MR. FOWLER WAS SAYING ABOUT LIKE, I DON'T THINK THIS SHOULD BE AN EVERYDAY THING THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THEN YOU'VE GOT SOMEONE ON LIKE, YOU KNOW, FEBRUARY 3RD DECIDING TO THROW FIREWORKS UP ON A MONDAY EVENING OR SUNDAY. BUT, YOU KNOW, THE 4TH OF JULY DOES NOT ALWAYS FALL ON A SATURDAY OR SUNDAY. AND SO WHEN YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE GATHERING AND GETTING TOGETHER AND SAYING, YOU KNOW, SAME WITH, WITH NEW YEAR'S EVE. SO I'D LIKE TO SEE US DO SOMETHING. OR IF, YOU KNOW, IF WE KIND OF PULL THIS BACK IS PULL IT BACK WITH AS LITTLE RESTRICTIONS, BUT AGAIN, STILL BE SMART. I THINK THE TOWN CAN HAVE A REALLY GOOD HAND IN EDUCATION AND OTHER AREAS THAT THE TOWN HAS GOTTEN VERY GOOD WITH TO, TO HELP, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTS IN THE TOWN KIND OF SEE THIS THROUGH. SO THAT'S MY SIDE OF MY MY THOUGHT PROCESS ON IT OF WHY I WANTED TO SEE THIS COME FORWARD. IF YOU LOOK AT THE PREVIOUS ORDINANCE THAT WE HAD, I BELIEVE IT HAD IN THERE ABOUT THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF FIREWORKS ALSO. SO IT MIGHT BE WORTH TAKING A LOOK AT THAT AND SEEING WHAT WAS SAID IN EXACTLY THE, THE VERBIAGE THAT WAS USED IN THAT, BECAUSE I THINK THERE WAS QUITE A BIT IN PLACE, RIGHT. THAT CAME STRAIGHT FROM LIKE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING FROM DENTON.

YEAH, YEAH. NO, DENTON COUNTY, I MEAN, LOOKING. SO WHEN I SAW THIS ON THE AGENDA, I WANTED TO LOOK UP TO UNDERSTAND, I THINK ANYTHING ABOVE, AGAIN, 1.3 OR 1.4, WHATEVER IT IS, YOU HAVE TO ACTUALLY GO. THOSE ARE ACTUALLY CODES. CODES. SO 1.3 IS PROFESSIONAL GRADE. AND IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A CONSUMER. IT'S GOVERNED BY THE ATF, RIGHT? SO THOSE, THOSE AREN'T GRAMS. THOSE ARE JUST SECTIONS. YEAH. AND I DIDN'T KNOW. I SAW 1.3. AND 1.3 IS PROFESSIONAL. GO GET YOU HAVE TO GO GET AN ATF LICENSE TO DO THAT. AND YOU'VE GOT TO GO GET A STATE LICENSE TO DO THIS ONE THING ON THAT. YEAH. ALL THE, THE STANDS THAT YOU SEE AROUND OUR AREA,

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THAT'S HOW THAT GRASS FIRE STARTED IN THAT FIVE ACRE LOT BEHIND OUR HOUSE. SOMEBODY FROM THE STREET SHOT IT OUT. THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS WHERE BEFORE I WAS ON COUNCIL, I WAS BECAUSE I REMEMBER WHEN 2022 HAPPENED THAT THAT WAS REALLY LIKE GUNG HO YEAR FOR FIREWORKS. THERE WAS A LOT OF BIG FUN FIREWORKS. AND THEN WE ALL GOT IN TROUBLE. BASICALLY, THAT'S WHAT IT FELT LIKE IS WE HAD A LOT OF FUN AND WE GOT GROUNDED THE NEXT DAY. I'VE DONE THAT AS A TEENAGER, BUT. WHERE I WAS REALLY GUNG HO BEFORE BEING ON COUNCIL ABOUT MAKING KEEPING FIREWORKS LEGAL.

AND THEN THE COMMON CONUNDRUM THAT I'VE ALSO COMPLAINED ABOUT FOR WHEN PEOPLE GET IN OFFICE IS THAT ONCE YOUR HAND IS ON THE LEVER OF PEOPLE'S SAFETY AND THEIR PROPERTY, THAT IT BECOMES REALLY CONFLICTING TO KNOW WHAT THE RIGHT THING TO DO IS. AND I DO THINK THAT THIS WAS REALLY WELL PRESENTED BY OUR POLICE AND FIRE AND BY YOU GUYS THAT BROUGHT IT UP THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE ORDINANCES AROUND GOLF CARTS. WE DO HAVE ORDINANCES AROUND THE E-BIKES AND STUFF BECAUSE WE WANT TO, YOU KNOW, HELP PROTECT PEOPLE FROM THEMSELVES OR BASICALLY

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BUT I THINK WITH SOME COMMON SENSE REGULATIONS, WE CAN TRY TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE US GO DOWN THE PATH OF, OF LOOKING AT THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF FIREWORKS AND SEEING IF WE CAN SET UP SOMETHING AROUND THAT. THERE'S TWO MAJOR CONCERNS I HAVE ONE, PUTTING ANY FIREFIGHTER AT RISK. IT'S A THERE'S AN UNNECESSARY RISK IN LAUNCHING STUFF IN THE AIR THAT COULD SET SOMETHING ON FIRE AND PUT PUT SOMEBODY IN DANGER, RIGHT? THAT'S A CHOICE THAT WE HAVE. I RESEARCHED PRETTY DEEPLY. I LOVE FIREWORKS, I'VE SHOT FIREWORKS AS A KID. I'VE DONE IT AS AN ADULT WHERE IT WAS LEGAL IN THE DENSITY OF THIS METROPLEX AND THE CONTINUED GROWING DENSITY OF OUR TOWN. I HAVE TO ASK IF THIS IS A GOOD IDEA TO ALLOW FIREWORKS. WHY IS THERE NOT A SINGLE INCORPORATED HOME RULE CITY IN NORTH TEXAS THAT ALLOWS THEM NOW? NORTH LAKE, WE PRIDE OURSELVES ON BEING DIFFERENT, BUT I DON'T WANT TO PRIDE OURSELVES ON BEING STUPID OR PASSIVE OR PASSIVELY ANSWERING A CALL FROM A SMALL SEGMENT OF THE COMMUNITY WHO'S VERY LOUD ABOUT THIS. I'D RATHER BE KNOWN FOR MAKING GOOD FISCAL POLICY, KEEPING TAXES LOW, AND DOING ALL THE RIGHT THINGS FOR OUR RESIDENTS, AND IS A HILL TO DIE ON FIREWORKS, RIGHT? I LOVE THEM, I LOVE THEM TO DEATH, BUT I WILL TELL YOU WHAT, MY HORSE HATES THEM. HATES WITH A PASSION. BROKEN FENCE FOUR DIFFERENT TIMES. AND YOU HAVE VETERANS WITH PTSD WHO FOUGHT FOR THEIR RIGHTS, BUT THEY DON'T WANT FIREWORKS EITHER. SO JUST I'M PLAYING DEVIL'S ADVOCATE HERE A LITTLE BIT. WE'RE PUTTING FIREFIGHTERS AT RISK. AND IF THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA, WHY ARE WE THE ONLY HOME RULE CITY IN NORTH TEXAS THINKING ABOUT MAKING THIS LEGAL AGAIN? SO IT'S JUST A CHALLENGE TO Y'ALL. AND I MEAN, WE'LL DO WHATEVER COUNCIL WANTS. THAT'S THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS HERE. BUT IT'S REALLY CONCERNING TO ME. AND THERE MAY BE A VERY, VERY INTELLIGENT BRAKE HERE ON AERIAL VERSUS GROUND. AND THAT THAT COULD BE A VERY GOOD COMPROMISE. SO THAT THAT'S MY $0.02 AND BACK BACK TO ANYONE ELSE. I WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER HAVING A SURVEY TO SEE WHAT THE RESIDENTS THINK. AND I AGREE. I, I GREW UP IN A TOWN WHERE WE COULDN'T LIGHT FIREWORKS. WE DROVE TO WHERE WE COULD. AND WHAT I DON'T WANT TO DO IS END UP BEING, YOU KNOW, A CITY ON A HILL WHERE WE'RE ALLOWED. WE'RE THE ONE THAT THEY'RE ALLOWED TO COME DO FIREWORKS AT. SO EVERYBODY COMES HERE AND LIGHTS MORE FIREWORKS BECAUSE THEN IT'S NOT JUST HELPING OUR RESIDENTS, IT'S BRINGING PEOPLE FROM OTHER TOWNS WHERE IT'S NOT ALLOWED. AND EVERY TIME WE BRING PEOPLE FROM OTHER TOWNS HERE, IF WE'RE NOT BRINGING THEM HERE TO SPEND MONEY, THEY'RE COMING HERE TO CAUSE PROBLEMS. SO, YOU KNOW, IT IS ONE THAT I GET CONFLICTED ON. I THINK THAT IT'S PROBABLY A THING WHERE WE CAN'T PUT THE CAT BACK IN THE BOX. WE CAN'T LIKE PUT THAT CAN OF WORMS BACK IN. THAT PROBABLY COULD HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED DIFFERENTLY AT THE BEGINNING, BUT NOW THAT IT'S DONE, HOW CAN WE SAFELY EVEN PUT THAT CAT BACK IN THE BAG? AND AGAIN, WE'RE GOING.

VERY GOOD POINTS AND EVERYTHING. AND THE ONLY THING I'LL SAY IS I WOULD ASK EVERYBODY TO BE REASONABLE. AND WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO COME UP FOR REASONS TO DO IT OR NOT TO DO IT, IS LET'S NOT USE THE 1% ARGUMENT TO ARGUE FOR THE MAJORITY, RIGHT? LIKE I UNDERSTAND THE LIVESTOCK, THE PTSD, BUT WHAT DO THE LIVESTOCK DO WHEN THERE'S THUNDERSTORMS? YOU KNOW, WHAT DO THEY DO WHEN THERE'S LIGHTNING AND THUNDER? MY DOGS GO NUTS. I HAVE TO PUT THEM IN IN A KENNEL WHEN THERE'S A STORM OUT, YOU KNOW, WE PREPARE, RIGHT? WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR

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WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FIREWORKS, SO WE'LL LEAVE THAT ONE THERE. BUT YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE THERE IS A SOLUTION TO THIS. THERE IS A WAY TO GO ABOUT IT. I THINK IT'S A WAY TO LISTEN TO PEOPLE. AND REGARDLESS OF HOW IT TURNS OUT, IF IT GETS VOTED DOWN, IT GETS VOTED DOWN.

THAT'S THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS, RIGHT? IF IT GETS VOTED UP, IT GETS VOTED UP. SO WE ARE WE ARE WE BRINGING IT BACK? IS THIS FOR CONSIDERATION? AND THEN WE'LL BRING IT BACK AS AN ACTION ITEM OR WHAT WHAT IS KIND OF THE PROCESS BETWEEN RIGHT HERE AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT IT AGAIN? SO SO THIS IS THIS IS BRIEFING. SO WE CAN MAKE DECISION AND GIVE STAFF DIRECTION ON WHAT WE WANT TO SEE HAPPEN NEXT. RIGHT. SO AND WE ALWAYS DO BRIEF. I KNOW MR. FOWLER ASKED ABOUT WHY. WHY ISN'T THERE A VOTE TONIGHT. BECAUSE THERE'S TOO MUCH DISCUSSION TO BE HAD. RIGHT. AND DIRECTION SETTING. SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE SET DIRECTION, COME BACK WITH ANY APPROPRIATE MEASURES FOR CONSIDERATION OR FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION. SO THERE'S TALK ABOUT POTENTIAL SURVEY. THERE WAS TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, AERIAL VERSUS GROUND. THERE'S ALL KINDS OF THINGS KIND OF ON THE TABLE. SO FOR STAFF, I WOULD SAY ONE, LET'S LOOK AT AERIAL VERSUS GROUND. SEE WHAT WHAT'S ENTAILED WITH THAT. GET THE KIND OF DETAILS ON THAT. WE CAN DEEP DIVE ON THAT. ONE THING I WILL SAY IN 2018, WHEN WE ALLOWED FIREWORKS, WE WERE VERY, VERY PERTINENT TO THE FACT OF THE SET DAYS, ESPECIALLY 4TH OF JULY. AND THEN NEW YEAR'S WAS KIND OF TUCKED IN THERE, BUT THAT WAS SO PEOPLE COULD PLAN, RIGHT? THERE'S A STORM COMING, THEY CAN PLAN, THERE'S FIREWORKS COMING, THEY CAN PLAN, YOU CAN PUT THE HORSES AWAY, THE COWS OR WHATEVER. RIGHT. SO THAT WAS AN IMPORTANT CONCEPT THERE OF SET DAYS FOR THINGS LIKE THAT. AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE PAST THAT. WHAT ELSE WOULD YOU LIKE TO GIVE STAFF DIRECTION ON? I HEARD A COMPARATIVE STATISTICS FROM WHEN AGAIN THEY'RE ALLOWED BUT NON PERMITTED NON-INSURED FIREWORKS VERSUS THE CURRENT WHICH IS INSURED AND PERMITTED FIREWORKS. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A SURVEY IF IT'S POSSIBLE. I DON'T REMEMBER THE SURVEY. YEAH. I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THE COST IS TO THE TOWN TO RUN A, YOU KNOW, FACEBOOK ONLINE SURVEY OR WHATEVER. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT FEEDBACK IS FOR BASICALLY OPENING UP FIREWORKS. AND I WOULD, IF WE COULD, IF WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO GO BACK THAT FAR, SEE THE STATISTICS FROM 2018 TO 2022, JUST LIKE WE HAD FROM 2022 ON. RIGHT, RIGHT HERE. SO AND IF WE DON'T HAVE IT, I WOULD LIKE A SLIDE SAYING THAT WE DON'T HAVE THOSE STATISTICS. OKAY. I'D LIKE TO SEE US CONSIDER. A DISTANCE REQUIREMENT. IF YOU'RE WITHIN SIX FEET OF OPEN PASTURE LAND, NO FIREWORKS. RIGHT. WITHOUT A PERMITTING, IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY HARD. WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO COME UPON THEM OR HAVE A COMPLAINT. SOMETHING I'D LIKE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER IS WHATEVER YOU YOU DO, THINK ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO ENFORCE THIS. WELL, THE THING IS, WE WENT BACK TO WHAT THE POLICE CHIEF SAID. THEY'RE WHAT, 25 CALLS AND NO CITATIONS. YOU THINK IF SOMEONE FROM, LET'S JUST SAY PRAIRIE VIEW LAUNCHES AN AERIAL, IT BURNS UP A NEIGHBOR'S FIVE ACRE LOT. YOU THINK THE PERSON IN PRAIRIE VIEW IS GOING TO FESS UP AND ADMIT IT? NO. SO THERE'S NO THERE'S REALLY NO PUNISHMENT PHASE EITHER. SO WE NEED THE CURRENT LOOK AT THE CURRENT.

THE CURRENT RULES AND COMMON WITH MOST. YOU COULD. YOU CAN HAVE CONSUMER GRADE FIREWORKS, BUT YOU HAVE TO GET A PERMIT. YOU HAVE TO HAVE A OUTFALL OF WHERE WHERE YOU'RE EXPECTING IT TO LAND. YOU HAVE TO TAKE PRECAUTIONS. YOU HAVE TO GET THE FIRE MARSHAL, YOU DO A FIRE PROTECTION PLAN, AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOME LEVEL OF INSURANCE. SO IF IT DOES GO WRONG, YOU CAN COMPENSATE THAT. AND WE CAN WE KNOW WHERE THAT INDIVIDUAL IS FIRING THOSE. IS THAT LIKE A RIDER ON THEIR REGULAR HOMEOWNER'S INSURANCE? LIKE IF THEY IF IT'S SOMEBODY JUST HAVING A 4TH OF JULY PARTY, IT IS GOING TO BE COST PROHIBITIVE BECAUSE IT IS A DANGEROUS ACTIVITY. SO THAT USUALLY IS WHAT WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THIS IN 20 2018, 2022, THOSE WERE ONE OF THOSE THINGS. BUT AGAIN, IF SOMETHING DOES GO BAD IN THOSE 1% OF CASES, WHAT WHO

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WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THAT EXERCISE WITH LEGAL. THE. THE OTHER THING THAT COULD BE DONE AND THERE'S A REAL CHALLENGE WITH HOSE HOSE DON'T ALLOW IT. BUT THEY CANNOT AND DO NOT ENFORCE IT. SO COUNCIL AS A RESPONSIBLE BODY CANNOT COUNT ON THEIR ENFORCEMENT. IF YOU MAKE A DECISION SAYING, WELL, IT'S NOT ALLOWED IN THE DEVELOPMENTS, IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN THERE AND SOMEBODY'S HOUSE IS BURNED DOWN. YOU BETTER OWN THAT. BUT WE CAN DO THINGS. I BELIEVE, MISS ASHLEY, DISTANCE FROM STRUCTURE, LIGHTING, LIGHTING AND EXPLOSIVE OR BURNING DEVICE WITHIN SIX FEET OF ANOTHER STRUCTURE OR PROPERTY LINE THAT WOULD BE ATTAINABLE THROUGH LEGAL AS A SAFETY PRECAUTION. RIGHT? YOU LITERALLY YOU SHOULDN'T BE. I SHOULDN'T BE ON MR. FOWLER'S BACK FENCE LINE, LIGHTING A FIREWORK DIRECTLY AT HIS FENCE. RIGHT. THAT THAT PROBABLY COULD BEAT ME UP FOR THAT. SO, SO WE COULD LOOK AT THINGS LIKE THAT AS WELL. DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS FOR RESPONSIBLE IGNITION. BUT I'M OPEN TO ALL SUGGESTIONS. I'M I'M NOT GOING TO WET BLANKET THIS. I JUST THINK THAT WE NEED TO GIVE STAFF CLEAR DIRECTION ON WHAT TO LOOK AT NEXT. IF IT'S A FREEDOM ISSUE. YEAH.

THAT WOULD BE AN OPTION. WE COULD COULD PUT IT UP. YOU COULD JUST TAKE THE ORDINANCE AWAY. SO I DON'T THINK PEOPLE REALIZE HOW FAST GRASS FIRES CAN SPREAD. I MEAN, I'M EMBARRASSED TO ADMIT THIS, BUT I WAS WELDING A GATE IN MY BACKYARD AND I STARTED A GRASS FIRE. IT WITHIN FIVE OR 10S. IT WAS TWO 300FT■!S. I CALLED IT I, BUT LUCKILY I HAD A GARDEN HOSE AND I WAS ABLE TO TO SNUFF IT OUT. BUT IT IT. AND IT WASN'T A WINDY DAY. IF YOU LOOK OUT THE WINDOW RIGHT NOW AT THESE FLAGS, THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH VERTICAL. IT'S IT'S VERY WINDY IN THIS AREA. AND WHEN YOU COUPLE IT WITH THE AERIALS THAT CAN TRAVEL A QUARTER, QUARTER TO A HALF A MILE, THEY CAN LAND ANYWHERE. AND THAT'S SO THAT ALSO SHOWS THAT. I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S AN ISSUE. LIKE I SAID, IF YOU CAN GUARANTEE WHERE IT'S GOING TO LAND AND I CAN PROBABLY SUPPORT IT, BUT THERE'S JUST NO GUARANTEE WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO GO. AND WE HAVE SO MUCH OPEN LAND IN THIS AREA. I MEAN, FROM FIVE ACRE LOTS ON UP, EVEN ONE ACRE LOTS.

YEAH. BUT YEAH, IT'S A TOUCHY SITUATION. I DON'T WANT TO OVERSTATE OR MISSTATE, BUT I DO FEEL LIKE THERE IS SOME SUPPORT FOR AERIAL VERSUS GROUND. BECAUSE THERE THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE THERE. SO LEAVE THE AREA, MAYBE LEAVE THE AERIALS TO, TO THE BIG DOGS AT HILLTOP AND THE TOWN. RIGHT. AND THE GROUND STUFF, YOU KNOW, I KNOW SPARKLERS CAN BE DANGEROUS, WHATEVER, BUT THERE'S A LOT MORE PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY ON SOMETHING YOU'RE HOLDING VERSUS SOMETHING YOU'RE THROWING UP IN THE AIR. AND LET'S, LET'S SEE WHERE IT LANDS. SO THERE'S DEFINITELY SOME SOME CONSENSUS HERE ABOUT GROUND VERSUS AERIALS, I BELIEVE WAS THE ONE THAT WAS THE LAST ORDINANCE. DID IT. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT AERIAL IT WAS THE LAST ORDINANCE WASN'T IT? SOMETHING ABOUT CAN'T GO ABOVE THE ROOF LINE. THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS ROCKETS WITH STICKS. THERE WAS ROMAN CANDLES. BUT I BELIEVE WE ALLOWED SOME SORT OF MORTARS OR SHELLS, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. IT WAS MORE ABOUT THE DEBRIS THAT CAME BACK. I DON'T I THINK WE JUST OPENED IT UP TO 1.3 G CONSUMED OR NO. 1.4 G CONSUMER. I DON'T REMEMBER A DIFFERENTIAL BETWEEN. I KNOW THAT WAS PART OF THE DISCUSSION, BUT AGAIN, THE ENFORCEMENT HOW TO AN OFFICER ON ON A BEAT WITH A ROCKET STICK TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE DIFFERENT GRADES OF FIREWORKS IS IS NOT NOT WHAT WE TRAIN THEM FOR. SO YEAH, THERE'S SOME, SOME TO BE SAID FOR THAT EFFECT. I MEAN, THE SPARKLER THING, I MEAN, MANY OF US DID IT AS CHILDREN. AND YES, I DID BURN MYSELF ONCE. NO SCARS, YOU KNOW, BUT THERE THERE'S MORE PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY ON THOSE TYPES OF THINGS THAN THERE IS, YOU KNOW, THREATENING THE, YOU KNOW, NOT THREATENING, BUT ACCIDENTALLY BURNING DOWN SOMEBODY'S PASTURE HOUSE, FIELD CAR, WHATEVER. AND THERE'S AN OUTLET THERE AS WELL. AND PEOPLE GET TO DO STUFF. AND SO, SO THAT'S WHERE I, YOU KNOW, I THINK I, MY MIND STILL IS DIFFERENT, NOT, NOT CLOSED OFF, BUT I MEAN, THAT'S STILL LIMITING. IT'S, IT'S VERY LIMITING AT THAT POINT STILL.

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BUT I DON'T SEE HERE IS A DIFFERENCE, A CHANGE IN THE TREND AFTER THE ORDINANCE WAS ENFORCED OR WAS PUT IN PLACE. YEAH. IT'S A VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE POPULATION. SO THERE'S A YEAH. THERE'S NO INFLECTION POINT WITH THAT ORDINANCE VERSUS WITHOUT IT.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT I SEE ON THIS. THERE'S ONE OTHER LEGAL THING THAT CAME UP IN THE GROUP THAT WAS PROTESTING IN 2022, WHO INSISTED THAT THE TOWN SHOULD ALLOW THIS ET-CETERA. I EDUCATED NO LESS THAN SEVEN PEOPLE ON HOW TO PETITION COUNCIL DUE TO OUR HOME RULE CHARTER, AND NOT A SINGLE PERSON EVEN PICKED UP A FORM FROM MY ACCOUNT. THERE WAS ABOUT 40 TO 50 RESIDENTS THAT WERE VERY IRATE, AND IT WAS A FAIRLY ISOLATED GROUP OF PEOPLE.

AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A POPULATION OF 15 OR 16,000 IN TOWN, NORTH LAKE AND ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, KYLE AND HARVEST THERE. SO JUST JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT AND HISTORY ON THAT.

ALL RIGHT. STAFF, DO YOU IS THAT CLEAR. OKAY. SO ARE YOU ASKED TO DO A FLASH SURVEY? IS THERE A CONSENSUS. I'M NOT I RATHER NOT DO THE SURVEY. THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHT. JUST I DON'T WANT TO RAISE ANY MORE RESOURCES. YEAH. THEN IT'S IT'S. YEAH. OKAY. IT DOES USE SOME RESOURCES, BUT WE HAVE A SURVEY TOOL THAT WE CAN PUSH OUT, BUT THAT MAY RAISE THE ISSUE MORE THAN PEOPLE ARE AWARE OF. SO I'M GETTING MIXED SIGNALS ON SURVEY. WE'LL DO A DISTANCE REQUIREMENT. WE'LL LOOK AT THAT. WE'LL LOOK AT AERIAL VERSUS GROUND. WE'LL TRY TO BROADEN THE STATISTICS. AND DO YOU WANT DO WE NEED ANOTHER BRIEFING AT OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. OR DO YOU WANT SOMETHING ACTIONABLE. I THINK COME BACK WITH THAT BRIEFING. I MEAN, WE HAVE TIME BEFORE NEXT HOLIDAY. YEAH. SO WE'RE NOT. SO LET LET'S NOT RUSH IT. COME BACK. COME BACK WITH THOSE AT THE NEXT OR THE FOLLOWING MEETING. BUT LET'S KEEP IT TIMELY FOR COUNCIL TO CONSIDER. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE LEFT OFF LIKE? I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S VOICE IS HEARD. SO. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. WELL, IF YOU EVER BORED ON A HOLIDAY WEEKEND, COME OUT RIGHT OUT THE POLICE AND WE'LL SHOW YOU A GOOD TIME. SO. VERY GOOD.

ALL RIGHT, STAFF CHIEF. CHIEF. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT.

[2.D.Briefing - Immigration and Customs Enforcement 287(g) Program]

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IT'S A JAIL ENFORCEMENT MODEL, A WARRANT SERVICE OFFICER PROGRAM, AND THE TASK FORCE MODEL. SO THE JAIL ENFORCEMENT MODEL IS BASICALLY IN YOUR COUNTY JAILS OR IN LOCAL JAILS, WHERE THE OFFICERS SCREEN INDIVIDUALS WHO COME IN THAT ARE ARRESTED, THEY CHECK THEIR IMMIGRATION STATUS AND THEY PROCESS THEM FOR FOR ICE, THE WARRANT SERVICE OFFICER. THIS IS WHAT KELLER DOES. KELLER JUST RECENTLY SIGNED AN AGREEMENT. THIS IS WHAT THEY DO.

IF THEY'RE ALREADY THERE, THEY. THEIR ARREST WARRANTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THEY THEY'RE ALREADY LOCKED UP IN A FACILITY. THEY HAVE SEPARATE CRIMINAL CHARGES. THEY'VE PROCESSED INTO THAT. THE TASK FORCE MODEL IS WHAT WE WOULD BE DOING IF WE WERE TO GO THIS ROUTE, DEPUTIZE LOCAL AND LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS. CHIEF, THE FIRST TWO YOU YOU GOTTA HAVE A JAIL. YES. RIGHT. YOU HAVE TO HAVE A JAIL FOR THOSE. SO THEY TRAIN US THE QUESTION OF IMMIGRATION STATUS, ARREST AND DETAIN TRANSPORT AND PROCESS OFFICERS MUST HAVE AT LEAST TWO YEARS EXPERIENCE AND BE CLEARED THROUGH THE FEDERAL BACKGROUND CHECK. THIS IS A LIST OF ALL THE COUNTIES IN THE NORTH TEXAS AREA FOR THE COG. THE ONLY THREE COUNTIES THAT AREN'T ON HERE ARE DALLAS, HUNT AND NAVARRO. THOSE THREE COUNTIES DO NOT PARTICIPATE IN ANY OF THE PROGRAMS. I BELIEVE IN HUNTER NAVARRO. THERE'S TWO SMALL AGENCIES THAT DO. AND YOU CAN SEE DENTON COUNTY, THE THE DENTON COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE. THEY PARTICIPATE IN THE JAIL ENFORCEMENT AND THE TASK FORCE MODEL. BARTONVILLE RECENTLY SIGNED AN AGREEMENT FOR THE TASK FORCE MODEL, BUT THEY ONLY. THE CAVEAT WITH THEIR AGREEMENT IS THEY WILL ONLY DO ENFORCEMENT IF THEY HAVE A CRIMINAL CHARGE AGAINST THAT. THE. THE DETAINEE ALREADY. SO THEY'RE NOT GOING OUT HUNTING FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE ON ILLEGALLY. WHENEVER OUR DETAINEES GET TRANSFERRED TO DENTON, WOULD THEY GO THROUGH THERE? THE THING THAT DIDN'T ALREADY HAS. WE WE DON'T DO IT. THE COUNTY DOES. RIGHT. BUT LIKE WHEN OUR PEOPLE THAT ARE ARRESTED GET TAKEN TO DEATH. YES. OKAY. YES. AND IF WE WE TAKE THEM TO FLOWER MOUND AS WELL FOR SOME CLASS C VIOLATIONS THAT WE ARREST FOR FLOWER MOUND IS THE SAME THING THEY WILL PROCESS. WE HAD ONE RECENTLY THAT WAS DETAINED A HOLD ON HIM. SO THEY PROCESSED HIM. SO AS YOU CAN SEE THERE'S THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT AS FAR AS THE CITIES THAT DO THIS.

MOST OF THE CITIES THAT DO THIS ARE VERY SMALL. WE HAVE A LARGER CALL VOLUME THAN PROBABLY MOST OF THESE CITIES, I THINK. BARTONVILLE I WAS LOOKING AT THEIR THEIR CALLS FOR SERVICE THIS YEAR. THEY HAVE MAYBE 3000 THAT'S DISPATCHED AND SELF-INITIATED.

WE HAD SO FAR OVER 18,000. SO A BIG DIFFERENCE THERE. SOME OF THE BENEFITS. IT GIVES OUR OFFICERS 40 HOURS OF TRAINING AND WE MAY BE ELIGIBLE FOR REIMBURSEMENT FOR EQUIPMENT, FOR NEW VEHICLE, FOR A SALARY AND BENEFITS AND OVERTIME. I DON'T KNOW IF THE CAVEAT THERE IS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS THAT MAY BE REIMBURSED. SOME CONCERNS THAT WE WOULD HAVE TRAINING WITH TAKE OFFICERS AWAY FROM THEIR PRIMARY DUTIES, BECAUSE IT'S 40 HOURS OF ONLINE TRAINING. THAT ONLINE TRAINING WOULD PROBABLY TAKE MORE LIKE 80 HOURS, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING BACK AND FORTH ANSWERING CALLS RIGHT NOW, OUR PROCESSING TIME FOR CURRENT CRIMINAL OFFENSES.

IF WE GET A DWI, IT CAN BE 3 OR 4 HOURS AT THE JAIL. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IF THERE'S A SEPARATE AVENUE THAT THEY DO FOR DETAINEES THAT ARE BEING PROCESSED FOR ICE? THAT'S SOMETHING I HAVE TO CHECK WITH THE SHERIFF ON THE LIABILITY. IF AN OFFICER GETS HURT WHILE HE'S PERFORMING A FEDERAL DUTY, IS THAT COVERED BY THE TOWN? IS IT COVERED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT? SO THAT'S ANOTHER THING WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK INTO. AND WHERE DOES THAT START? WHERE DOES THAT BEGIN? AND THEN LANGUAGE BARRIERS. SOMETIMES WE RUN INTO PEOPLE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF UKRAINIAN, RUSSIAN, CHINESE, VENEZUELANS, YOU KNOW, WHOEVER. WE DON'T SPEAK. I DON'T SPEAK THAT MANY LANGUAGES. I DON'T KNOW SOME OF OUR OFFICERS DO. BUT SO THAT'S WHEN SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE WOULD HAVE, WE DO HAVE A LANGUAGE LINE, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE A LENGTHY PROCESS TO BE ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD DOING THAT. OUR CURRENT PROCESS, WE FOCUS ON THE LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT DUTIES. WE ASSIST ALL OF OUR FEDERAL PARTNERS. WE GET CALLS FROM THE FBI, HOMELAND SECURITY, ICE, ALL THESE DIFFERENT FEDERAL AGENCIES. SO IF WE MAKE AN ARREST ON CRIMINAL CHARGES, WE TRANSPORT TO THE DETENTION FACILITY OR JAIL. THE COUNTY CONFIRMS THEIR STATUS, AND THEN THEY PROCESS THEM THE WAY THEY NEED TO. SO THAT'S, THAT'S A STEP THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO DO. SO ANY QUESTIONS? CHIEF, COULD

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WE CALLED ICE FOR ASSISTANCE. THEY REFUSED TO COME OUT. AND IF WE WERE TO TRANSPORT TEN PERSONS, THAT WOULD TAKE FIVE SQUAD CARS, BECAUSE WE CAN ONLY PUT TWO IN A CAR, THAT WOULD TAKE OUR WHOLE SHIFT PLUS SOME. SO THAT'S, THAT'S SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE WOULD RUN INTO AS WELL. SO COUNCIL, SINCE I MADE YOU EXPLAIN WHY YOU PUT SOMETHING ON AGENDA, I WILL DO THE SAME. HOLD MYSELF TO THE SAME STANDARD. I ASKED FOR THIS ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE IN TALKING TO THE OFFICERS AND TALKING TO THE CHIEF, YOU KNOW, IF WE PULL SOMEBODY OVER AND FOR REGISTRATION INSURANCE, RIGHT, SOMETIMES WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD IDEA IF THEY'RE LEGAL OR ILLEGAL. BUT WITH THAT STOP, THERE'S NO CURRENT ACTION WE CAN TAKE. WE'RE NOT JAILING THEM TYPICALLY, SO IT'S NOT GOING TO FALL THROUGH. SO WITH ALL THE STORIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ILLEGAL DRIVERS KILLING OTHER DRIVERS ON THE ROAD, ETC. I WOULD LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO, IF WE BELIEVE THERE'S AN ISSUE TO CORRECT THAT ISSUE, RIGHT? ESPECIALLY WITH THE TRAFFIC WE GET THROUGH 35, OUR TRAFFIC STOPS, ETCETERA. THAT PLAYS TO SAFETY OF OUR RESIDENTS. WE'RE NOT PUTTING OUR RESIDENTS ON THE ROADS WITH PEOPLE THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY TAKE OFF OF THE ROADS. SO THAT'S WHY I ASK FOR THIS BARTONVILLE CAME ONLINE, COLOR CAME ONLINE. I WOULD JUST LIKE OUR OFFICERS TO HAVE THE TOOLS AVAILABLE TO THEM THAT THEY, IF THEY DEEM NECESSARY TO USE THE TRAINING. YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS AVERAGE 4000 PLUS HOURS OF TRAINING LAST YEAR, I THINK. SO A COUPLE OFFICERS, YOU KNOW, 40 HOURS OF TRAINING THAT KIND OF FALLS IN LINE THERE. SO I, I KNOW YOU MIGHT BE A LITTLE HESITANT THERE, BUT THAT'S THE REASONING FOR WHY I WANTED TO INVESTIGATE THIS PROGRAM, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING THE BEST THING TO PROTECT THE REGION'S AND OUR RESIDENTS, ESPECIALLY WITH THE FOCUS ON ILLEGAL DRIVERS ON THE ROAD WHO THEN GO ON, WHO WERE STOPPED MULTIPLE TIMES AND THEN GO ON TO KILL SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, ACCIDENTALLY. BUT NONETHELESS, IT'S A LIFE, A LIFE THAT DIDN'T HAVE TO BE LOST. AND THIS IS JUST A 10,000 FOOT VIEW OF, OF THE PROGRAM. I MEAN, I CAN DIG DEEPER INTO IT AND LOOK AND SEE. AND WE DO HAVE AVENUES IF, IF THEY DON'T HAVE A DRIVER'S LICENSE, DON'T HAVE INSURANCE, WE'LL TOW THE VEHICLE. AND WE, YOU KNOW, IF WE SUSPECT THEY MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, BREAKING SOME OTHER LAW, WE CAN ARREST THEM ON A CLASS C VIOLATION, TAKING THE FLOWER MOUND. THE THING WITH THAT IS EVERY TIME WE TAKE IT TO THE FIREMAN, THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL COST TO US. AND THAT COST CAN GET QUITE EXPENSIVE IF WE DO IT FOR EVERYBODY. AND YOU TOLD ME, CHIEF, THAT IF IT'S A CLASS C MISDEMEANOR NOT HAVING A DRIVER'S LICENSE, THE THE COUNTY JAIL WON'T TAKE THEM. CORRECT. THEY WILL NOT TAKE CLASSES OTHER THAN PUBLIC INTOXICATION OR FAMILY VIOLENCE. OKAY. GOT A QUESTION? I'M SORRY, I JUST WANT I WANTED TO GIVE COUNCIL THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE IF THIS IS SOMETHING YOU WANT TO EXPLORE AS A COUNCIL POLICY FOR OUR POLICE. I'M DONE. SO GO AHEAD. C ON THAT VAN. YOU SAID YOU HAD THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE IN THERE. YOU DIDN'T IS THE OPTION DID I DID I MISS IT OR WAS THAT SOMETHING THAT Y'ALL JUST HAVE TO LET THEM GO? YES. OKAY. SO YEAH, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING ON THEM. OKAY. SO BY BRINGING THIS TO THE AGENDA, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT HIGHWAYS SUCH AS. 11435 WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING THROUGH THAT DON'T NECESSARILY LIVE HERE AND BELIEVE IT'S OUR DUTY TO PROTECT OUR RESIDENTS AND OUR CITIZENS. AND IF WE CAN GIVE YOU MORE TOOLS TO DO THAT, I THINK IT'S SUPER IMPORTANT THAT WE DO. I ECHO THAT AS WELL.

I MEAN, WITH 35, THE TRAFFIC COMING THROUGH 35 AND THESE HIGHWAYS, I THINK THAT'S AND IT'S ONLY GOING TO GET BUSIER ALONG THE HIGHWAY AND BRING MORE AND MORE TRAFFIC AND THE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE PROTECTING THOSE RIGHT OFF, RIGHT OFF THE HIGHWAYS, YOU KNOW, AND CONTINUE TO, TO PROTECT THOSE AROUND THE TOWN. AND SO. IT WOULD DEFINITELY BE INTERESTED IN UNDERSTANDING WHAT RESOURCES, IF OR IF THERE'S OTHER RESOURCES THAT WE CAN GET OR TAP INTO WITH, WITH THE, WITH THESE FEDERAL PROGRAMS, ESPECIALLY HEARING LIKE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, LIKE YOU HAD A VAN FULL OF, OF PEOPLE THAT IN, IN ICE, YOU KNOW, DECIDED NOT TO COME OR DIDN'T, DIDN'T COME AND HELP OUT. AND THAT'S DISAPPOINTING TO HEAR OF, YOU KNOW, YOUR ABILITY TO, TO ENFORCE THESE LAWS AND THESE RULES, BUT THEN NOT GETTING THE SUPPORT THAT WE NEED FOR IT. SO THE, THE VAN FULL OF PEOPLE PRETTY QUICKLY CHANGED HOW I WAS FEELING, BECAUSE I KIND OF FELT WHENEVER I LOOKED AT THIS ORIGINALLY, BECAUSE I'M SUPER SUPPORTIVE OF BEING A HARD PLACE FOR ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS TO EXIST. I THINK THAT THAT'S THE BEST WAY TO PROTECT ONE OF THE BEST WAYS TO PROTECT OUR CITIZENS AND THE PEOPLE WHO WORKED REALLY HARD TO COME HERE LEGALLY. SO I THOUGHT WE HAD SOME GUARDRAILS BECAUSE THE JAILS THAT WE SEND OUR DETAINEES TO, TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROGRAM.

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YES, YES. ALL RIGHT. BUT EVEN THAT 35 IS A MAJOR LIKE TRAFFICKING LIKE YEAH. FOR HUMAN TRAFFICKING, TRAFFICKING, SEX TRAFFICKING, EVERYTHING. YES. AND JUST BEING ABLE TO EVEN HAVE GOOD RESOURCES, LIKE, AGAIN, LIKE THROWING GOOD MONEY AT GOOD, YOU KNOW, AT GOOD RESOURCES HERE THAT TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THAT TYPE OF EFFORT IS REALLY IMPORTANT. SO I JUST WANT TO MANAGE EXPECTATIONS. I WANT THE PUBLIC TO KNOW THAT THEY ARE SAFE AND THAT WE PATROL 35 AND THAT WE DO EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN LEGALLY. IT IS NOT A FREE FOR. ALL.

RIGHT. AND I ALSO WANT TO MANAGER THAT THERE'S NOT GOING TO IT'LL IT'LL BE A MARGINAL HELP, BUT THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A SEA CHANGE, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE ARE OUT THERE PROTECTING THE PUBLIC AND ENFORCING LAWS. AND SO, AND I, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT WHEN WE'RE RECOGNIZING IT, TO KNOW THAT WE'RE VERY FAR FROM BEING A SANCTUARY CITY, THAT OUR POLICE OFFICERS AND OUR POLICE FORCE ARE ALREADY REALLY THOROUGH. AND I FEEL PROBABLY TOO SAFE SOMETIMES. SO I DO WANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT THAT I DON'T THINK THIS IS AN IMMINENT THREAT, BUT I DO THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE FACING NATIONALLY AND AT A STATE LEVEL AND THAT. DO YOU THINK THAT THAT TRAINING IS SOMETHING THAT OUR OFFICERS WOULD BE EXCITED ABOUT HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN? I THINK SOME WOULD, YEAH, NOT ALL OF THEM.

LIKE ONE OF THE ITEMS IN OUR IN OUR BUDGET IS FOR AN OFFICER. AND ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS LOOKING AT IS A TASK FORCE OFFICER. SO THAT PERSON CAN DO TRAINING LIKE THIS AND GO MAYBE WORK WITH HOMELAND SECURITY, WORK WITH THE FBI, WORK WITH, YOU KNOW, ATF OR WHOEVER, BECAUSE THAT ALSO SEEMS LIKE A WAY BECAUSE I KNOW THAT RETAINING TOP TALENT IS ONE OF THE THINGS ON OUR MISSION AND THAT IF WE HAVE UNIQUE OPPORTUNITIES THAT MAYBE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES DON'T HAVE, MAYBE THAT MAKES US MORE COMPETITIVE WHEN WE'RE, YOU KNOW, COMPETING FOR GOOD OFFICERS. HOPEFULLY. ALL RIGHT. COUNSEL, IS THERE INTEREST IN BRINGING THIS BACK AS A A VOTING TOPIC? YES. ALL RIGHT. CHIEF, THANK YOU SO MUCH. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND PATIENCE AND DOING THAT RESEARCH. ALL RIGHT, JOHN, WE

[2.E.Briefing - Fiscal Year 2026-2027 Proposed Budget]

STRATEGIC GOALS AS ALWAYS, THAT'S WHAT HELPS DRIVE THE BUDGET. WE START WITH THESE,

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SO IT IS AVAILABLE FOR THE PUBLIC ON OUR WEBSITE TO VIEW. IT'S OUR DIGITAL BUDGET BOOK.

SO IT'S A LOT MORE INTERACTIVE THAN YOUR TRADITIONAL NON ONLINE VERSION, YOUR MORE PHYSICAL COPIES. BUT LOOKING AT OUR OPERATING REVENUES AND EXPENSES WITHOUT THE CAPITAL FUNDS AND THOSE THINGS RELATED TO CAPITAL PROJECTS, WE'RE LOOKING AT OPERATING REVENUES OF 63.6 MILLION ACROSS ALL THOSE FUNDS. WE HAVE A VARIETY OF THEM. AND THEN WE HAVE OPERATING EXPENDITURES OF 64.2. YOU'LL NOTICE THAT EXPENDITURES ARE ABOVE REVENUES. TYPICALLY WE LIKE TO SEE IT THE OTHER WAY. BUT PART OF THAT REASON IS MAINLY DRIVEN BY BALANCES AND FUNDS THAT WE ARE DRAWING DOWN ON TO MAKE PAYMENTS. SO EXAMPLE OF THAT IS THE EQUIPMENT FUND.

THAT IS ONE OF THE PRIMARY DRIVERS FOR THAT. THE EXPENDITURES EXCEEDING REVENUES.

WE HAVE A NUMBER OF REPLACEMENTS. YOU'LL SEE IT LATER ON. WE HAVE ABOUT $1 MILLION IN VEHICLE REPLACEMENTS THIS YEAR. WE SET ASIDE MONEY AND THEN WE DRAW DOWN THOSE FUNDS, BUT WE'RE NOT ADDING IN ANOTHER MILLION DOLLARS TO OFFSET THAT SAME THING WITH THE MUNICIPAL DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. WE'VE EARNED MONEY. WE'VE PLACED IT INTO THE EDC, CDC, WHICH IS THEN GOING TO BE TRANSFERRED TO THIS NEW MDD. AND ONE OF ITS EXPENSES IS DEPOSITING MONEY FOR THE NORTH LAKE COMMONS CONNECTOR TRAIL CONNECTOR. LOOKING AT THE GENERAL FUND SPECIFICALLY, BECAUSE THIS IS OUR PRIMARY OPERATING FUND FOR FOR GOVERNMENTS, WE HAVE REVENUES OF 15.2 MILLION, 2.28 MILLION AND EXPENDITURES OF 15.27 MILLION. SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST PLANNING ON A SMALL BALANCE OF 17000, WITH REVENUES EXCEEDING EXPENDITURES. AND OUR ENDING FUND BALANCE IS PROJECTED TO BE 5.7 MILLION.

THAT'LL BE 38% OF OUR OPERATING COSTS. SO WE'LL COVER US FOR OVER FOUR MONTHS. AND OUR POLICY IS TO HAVE 33%. SO WE'RE STILL 5% ABOVE OUR POLICY AND 8% ABOVE THE STATE OF TEXAS.

RECOMMENDED BALANCE IN THE GENERAL FUND OF 30%. ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE RECOMMENDING IS BECAUSE WE HAVE BUILT UP A FUND BALANCE OVER THE YEARS, IS TO USE UP TO 1.5 MILLION OF THAT FOR A ONE TIME PAYMENT TO THE TEXAS MUNICIPAL RETIREMENT SYSTEM. IF YOU REMEMBER, WE DID THIS ABOUT THREE OR SO YEARS AGO WHERE WE MADE THIS ONE TIME LUMP SUM PAYMENT. THE PURPOSE OF THAT IS IT REDUCES OUR UNFUNDED LIABILITY, IT REDUCES OUR FUTURE RATE INCREASES, WHICH WE'RE ALWAYS TRYING TO LOWER. AND THEN IT DOES SET UP THE TOWN TO POTENTIALLY ADOPT A 70% REPEATING COLA AND PLACE US ON PAR WITH SOME OF OUR PEERS HERE IN THE AREA, MAKE US MORE DESIRABLE LOCATION FOR EMPLOYEES TO COME WORK AND STAY WITH THE UTILITY FUND. THIS IS OUR OTHER MAJOR OPERATING FUND, BUT IT'S DRIVEN BY UTILITY REVENUES. WE'RE PROJECTING RIGHT NOW 31.5 MILLION IN UTILITY REVENUES, EXPENDITURES OF 29.6, AND REVENUES ARE EXPECTED TO EXCEED EXPENDITURES BY 1.7 MILLION. NOW, THE REASON FOR THAT DIFFERENCE IS WE ARE MAKING A TRANSFER OF FUNDS FROM THE CANYON FALLS MUD FUND INTO THE UTILITY FUND TO SHORE, TO SHORE UP A LITTLE BIT. AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE'LL HAVE 12.2 MILLION IN CASH RESERVES, WHICH IS 42% OF OPERATING COSTS. AND WE'RE STRIVING TOWARDS THAT GOAL OF 50%, SO THAT IF THE FUND EVER SAW A YEAR WHERE WE DIDN'T BRING IN AS MANY AS MUCH REVENUES DUE TO MAYBE A WET YEAR, WE COULD MAKE SURE TO CONTINUE TO FUND OPERATIONS, PAY OUR OBLIGATIONS AND SO FORTH. LOOKING SPECIFICALLY AT A COUPLE COST AREAS, PERSONNEL COSTS AFTER CAPITAL IS OUR LARGEST EXPENDITURE RIGHT NOW. WE'RE PROJECTING 10.9 MILLION IN PERSONNEL COSTS. THAT'S DRIVEN HEAVILY BY POLICE, WHICH IS THEN FOLLOWED BY PUBLIC WORKS. THOSE ARE TWO LARGEST DEPARTMENTS, AND THEN OUR SERVICE AREA POPULATION IS ALSO A DRIVER FOR THAT. WE'RE EXPECTING ABOUT A 7% INCREASE IN OUR SERVICE AREA POPULATION. AND SO BECAUSE OF THAT IS A PRIMARY DRIVER THAT LEADS TO US INVESTING MORE IN PERSONNEL. WE WANT TO KEEP PERSONNEL, REDUCE TURNOVER, BUT WE ALSO TYPICALLY NEED TO ADD ADDITIONAL POSITIONS TO MAINTAIN AND MEET INCREASING SERVICE DEMANDS. CAN I ASK A QUESTION ON THIS? OR IT'S REALLY MORE OF A KIND OF CALLBACK TO OUR LAST THING. WHENEVER WE DO BRING OUR ICE THING BACK ON THE CAN, WE ALSO INCLUDE HOW IT WILL IMPACT THIS, OUR PERSONNEL COSTS AND OUR POLICE LIKE A LITTLE MORE SPECIFICALLY? YEAH, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT. THANK YOU. INTERNAL SERVICES.

THIS IS OUR TECHNOLOGY, EQUIPMENT AND BUILDING COSTS. SO THE WAY INTERNAL SERVICES WORK IS EACH DEPARTMENT ALLOCATES A PORTION OF THEIR BUDGET BASED ON FACTORS RELATED TO MAYBE HOW MUCH TECHNOLOGY THEY HAVE, NUMBER OF POSITIONS, WHAT EQUIPMENT THEY'RE PURCHASING OR NEED TO REPLACE. AND THAT GETS PUT INTO THESE SPECIFIC FUNDS. AND THESE FUNDS

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WE'VE ALSO SEEN CHANGES IN HOW TECHNOLOGY OPERATES, WITH A LOT OF PROVIDERS MOVING TO SUBSCRIPTION BASED MODELS THAT THEY THEN RATCHET UP OVER THE YEARS. EQUIPMENT, SERVICES. I DID ALLUDE TO THIS EARLIER 1.3 MILLION IN EXPECTED EQUIPMENT SERVICES. A MILLION OF THAT IS FOR REPLACEMENTS THAT WE'VE BEEN SAVING FOR. AND THEN NOW WE'RE SPENDING OUT 710,000 OF THAT IS FOR SEWER VAC TRUCK. THAT'S THE MAIN MAIN DRIVER THIS YEAR. WE TYPICALLY DON'T REPLACE THOSE EVERY SINGLE YEAR OR EVEN EVERY FIVE YEARS, AND THEN 260,000 FOR NEW VEHICLES AND EQUIPMENT. BUILDING SERVICES IS 1.2 MILLION. YOU ACTUALLY SEE ON THE CHART THERE.

IT REMAINS RELATIVELY FLAT. WE DON'T HAVE ANY MAJOR RENOVATION PROJECTS THIS YEAR. IN PAST YEARS, WE HAVE HAD RENOVATION PROJECTS TO TRY AND EXPAND OFFICE SPACE, TO REDO THE COMMUNITY ROOM OVER AT POLICE TO PROVIDE SPACE, MORE ADDITIONAL SPACE FOR THEM, AS AN EXAMPLE. SO WE'RE EXPECTING THAT TO REMAIN RELATIVELY FLAT. AND IF ANY INCREASES IN SPECIFIC COSTS WOULD BE RELATED JUST TO INFLATIONARY FACTORS. AND THEN THE BUDGET DOES ALWAYS TRY TO UTILIZE ANY FUND BALANCE RESERVES THAT ARE APPROPRIATE. AND THAT CAN BE USED FOR A SPECIFIC PURPOSE. CAPITAL PROJECTS. RIGHT NOW WE BUDGETED 48.2 MILLION IN PROJECTS.

DOESN'T MEAN THEY'RE ALL GOING TO GET DONE THIS YEAR. IT'S JUST WE ARE CONSERVATIVE AND OPTIMISTIC AT THE SAME TIME. SO WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS. BUT ROADS 15.8 MILLION, WATER 16.2 AND OTHER BUILDING ANOTHER 16.2. LARGELY THAT BUILDING ANOTHER IS LARGELY DRIVEN BY THE PUBLIC WORKS CONSTRUCTION. AND THEN FOR DEBT FUNDING, WE HAVE CURRENTLY 25.1 MILLION AVAILABLE IN A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT SOURCES TO HELP COVER CAPITAL PROJECTS. BUT TO PREPARE FOR PROJECTS THIS YEAR AND THE FOLLOWING FISCAL YEAR, 38.4 MILLION UP TO IS THE AMOUNT WE TYPICALLY COME IN WELL UNDER WHAT WE ORIGINALLY BUDGET. AND THEN JUST BECAUSE OF TIMING AND ISSUANCE OR SCHEDULES FOR PROJECTS OR COSTS, WE SEE COST REDUCTIONS SUCH AS THAT TREE INTERCEPTOR LINE. WE ALREADY SAW THAT WHERE IT WAS ESTIMATED HIGHER BY TRA AND THE BID CAME IN LOWER. BUT OUR CURRENT DEBT SERVICE RIGHT NOW IS 13 MILLION. AND PART OF THAT IS BECAUSE WE HAVE FRONT LOADED THE PAYMENT FOR THE 2026 EOS THAT WE TOOK OUT THIS YEAR TO TRY AND REDUCE THE INTEREST COSTS OVER THE LONG TERM OF THAT. CO, THE DEBT SERVICE IS TYPICALLY PAID JUST AS KIND OF A AWARENESS FOR THE PUBLIC. WE DO USE PROPERTY TAXES, BUT WE DO OUR BEST TO ALSO USE SALES TAX, HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX, UTILITY REVENUES, OUR TOURS AND THE REVENUES THEY BRING IN AND LEASE PAYMENTS TO TRY AND OFFSET INCREASES RELATED TO DEBT SERVICE. LOOKING AT HOW WE EFFECTIVELY MANAGE PUBLIC RESOURCES. SO WE ARE PROPOSING, AGAIN THE TAX RATE OF 29.5 CENTS. THAT'S WHAT THE BUDGET HAS BEEN BUILT AROUND. IT'S A RATE THAT THE TOWN HAS MAINTAINED FOR 25 PLUS YEARS. THE BUDGET ITSELF IS FOCUSED ON.

IN ORDER TO DO THAT, IT'S FOCUSED ON UTILIZING THE DE MINIMIS RATE, IF IT'S AVAILABLE TO US, IDENTIFYING ALTERNATIVE SOURCES OF REVENUE, WE ALWAYS WE CURRENTLY OPERATE ON A LEAN STAFFING MODEL. AND AS I MENTIONED, WE TRY TO EMPHASIZE USING TECHNOLOGY WHERE WE CAN TO REDUCE HIRING ADDITIONAL STAFF. OFTEN, TECHNOLOGY IS CHEAPER THAN HIRING A NEW POSITION FOR THE LONG TERM. WE HAVE BEEN BENEFITING FROM NEW VALUE GROWTH. SO THAT HAS BEEN A POSITIVE. AND THEN WE USE FUND BALANCES TO REPLACE EQUIPMENT AND MAKE ONE TIME PURCHASES NOT ONGOING. AND THEN AS MENTIONED, WE SUPPORT DEBT FROM OTHER REVENUE SOURCES.

WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IN PRACTICE, AND I APOLOGIZE THAT MY CHART IS DOING SOMETHING ODD WITH THE NUMBERS. WE HAVE 4.1 BILLION IN TAXABLE VALUE WITH THE 2026 VALUES. WE JUST RECEIVED THE CERTIFIED ROLLS TODAY. SO I'VE UPDATED THESE NUMBERS BASED ON THAT. I HAVE NOT HAD THE CHANCE TO UPDATE ALL THE NUMBERS IN THE BUDGET THAT'S CURRENTLY ONLINE, SO EXPECT THOSE NUMBERS TO CHANGE A LITTLE BIT AS WE PROCESS THAT INFORMATION. BUT WE DID SEE VALUES INCREASE BY 14% OVERALL. THE SPLIT RIGHT NOW ACTUALLY MOVED MORE FAVORABLE BY A COUPLE PERCENT, COUPLE PERCENT POINTS. COMMERCIAL INCREASED AND RESIDENTIAL CAME DOWN. SO WE'RE TRYING TO HIT A 5050 SPLIT WITH A LONG, LONG TERM GOAL BEING A 6040 SPLIT WITH COMMERCIAL BEARING A LARGER PART OF THE BURDEN OF THE TAX RATE AND PROPERTY TAX. NEW VALUE ITSELF IS 7% OF THE TAXABLE VALUE, AND THEN THE NEW VALUE WITH 16% HIGHER THAN THE PRIOR YEAR, LARGELY DRIVEN BY, I THINK, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, COMMERCIAL THIS YEAR.

AND THEN EXEMPTIONS, WE DID SEE AN INCREASE IN 24%. SPECIFICALLY IN THE HOMESTEAD.

WE COUNCIL DID MAKE THE DECISION TO INCREASE THE AMOUNT FOR DISABLED AND OVER 65 IN THE PRIOR FISCAL YEAR. AND WE DID SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT OPPORTUNITY AND TO TO LOWER THEIR TAX BILL. SO THAT'S A POSITIVE. MAY I INTERRUPT YOU FOR A SECOND?

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IT WOULD JUST WRITE OUR EXEMPTION WOULD FALL INTO THE NEW AGE BRACKET, CORRECT? YEAH.

ALL RIGHT. SO LOOKING AT THE PROPOSED TAX RATE ITSELF, AS I MENTIONED, THESE ESTIMATES WERE USED WITH WHAT I HAD ABOUT A WEEK AND A HALF TO TWO WEEKS AGO. WE DID RECEIVE THE CERTIFIED ESTIMATES THIS MORNING. SO WE'RE NOW STARTING THE ACTUAL CALCULATION PROCESS.

BUT WE'RE ANTICIPATING THAT THE WILL COME IN AROUND THE MINUTE AND USE THE DE MINIMIS AT 29.5 CENTS, AND THEN THAT THE VOTER APPROVED IS THAT 0.28 AND THE NEW REVENUE AT 0.26. BUT AS ALWAYS, MAINTAINING THAT THAT TAX RATE OF 0.295 THAT COUNCIL HAS DIRECTED US. SO LOOKING AT WHAT THAT MEANS IN TERMS OF ACTUAL REVENUE, WE'RE EXPECTING THAT DUE TO NEW GROWTH IN THE PROPERTY TAX BASE BY ABOUT 11%, THAT WE'LL SEE AN INCREASE OF 11% OR 1.2 MILLION. YOU CAN SEE WE DID 10.7 MILLION THIS LAST YEAR, AND WE'RE EXPECTING 11.9 HERE IN THE FUTURE. THEN THAT WILL BE SPLIT BETWEEN INS AND WHICH IS THE DEBT AND NO, WHICH IS MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS.

LOOKING AT ONE OF OUR OTHER BUDGET FOCUSED AREAS OF OPERATING EFFICIENTLY AND EFFECTIVELY HIGHLIGHTS FOR THIS. WHEN WE DO THE BUDGET, WE ARE AIMING TO MAINTAIN CURRENT SERVICE LEVELS FOR THE INCREASES IN POPULATION. AND WE DO THAT PARTIALLY BY KEEPING PACE WITH THE MARKET TO REDUCE EMPLOYEE TURNOVER. AND THIS YEAR WE'RE EMPHASIZING CATCHING UP CURRENT STAFF THAT WE HAVE ON THE BOOKS TO MARKET RATES BASED ON TENURE AND EXPERIENCE.

AND THEN THE TOWN DOES AIM FOR THAT 50TH PERCENTILE MARKET FOR EACH POSITION. WE DO THAT BY DOING A MARKET STUDY EVERY TWO YEARS. WE'RE UP FOR A NEW ONE THIS YEAR, SO WE'LL DO THAT ONE HERE IN 27, WHICH WILL THEN INFORM THE 28 BUDGET. AND THEN ALL OF THAT, WE TRY TO REDUCE THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL STAFF WHEN POSSIBLE, THROUGH TECHNOLOGY OR PARTNERSHIPS, OR USING THIRD PARTY SERVICES. WHEN IT COMES TO STAFF, BUDGET EXPENSES ARE 538,000 FOR NEW EMPLOYEES. THERE'S FIVE POSITIONS, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THOSE IN JUST A SECOND, 364,000 FOR COST OF LIVING MARKET AND STEP PLAN INCREASES, AND THEN UP TO 1.5 MILLION IN THAT POTENTIALLY ONE TIME PAYMENT TO TRY TO HELP REDUCE OUR UNFUNDED LIABILITY AND BRING BRING RATES DOWN IN THE FUTURE. THE PERSONNEL ADDITIONS THAT I ALLUDED TO, WE HAVE FOUR FOR POLICE WITH TWO CORPORALS, A PATROL OFFICER AND AN ACCREDITATION OFFICER. PUBLIC WORKS IS A MAINTENANCE WORKER AT SPECIFICALLY FOR THE STREETS DEPARTMENT. WITH EQUIPMENT, IT'S THAT 1.3 MILLION, LARGELY DRIVEN BY REPLACEMENT EQUIPMENT OF $1 MILLION. BUT FOR NEW EQUIPMENT, IT'S TWO POLICE PATROL VEHICLES, A SKID STEER LOADER, AND A MINI EXCAVATOR THAT WILL BE SHARED BOTH FOR STREETS, STORM WATER AND ALSO WATER AND WASTEWATER AND THEN REPLACEMENT EQUIPMENT. WE HAVE THE CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS VEHICLE, TWO POLICE SUPPORT VEHICLES, THE SEWER VAC TRUCK, WHICH IS THE BULK AT 710,000. AND THEN THE ASPHALT ROLLER, TWO EQUIPMENT, TRANSPORT TRAILERS FOR PUBLIC WORKS AND A MOWER. AND THEN ONE THING I'LL JUST NOTE, POLICE DID SWITCH IN THIS PRIOR FISCAL YEAR TO A LEASE MODEL FOR THEIR VEHICLES, WHICH WE HAVE SEEN ALREADY PROVIDE IMPROVED CASH FLOWS, MAKING THIS MUCH EASIER TO BUDGET AND PLAN FOR THE FUTURE. WHAT'S A POLICE SUPPORT VEHICLE THAT IS A VEHICLE FOR? IT'S REALLY A SUPPORT OR ADMINISTRATIVE VEHICLE. SO IT'S A VEHICLE FOR THE ONE OF THE CAPTAINS. AND THEN CHIEF IS ACTUALLY ALSO DUE FOR A NEW VEHICLE THIS YEAR, A REPLACEMENT HIS HAS REACHED ITS END OF LIFE ON THE POLICE PATROL VEHICLE, NEW EQUIPMENT.

AND THAT'S NOT PART OF THE LEASE PROGRAM. THEY ARE. SO YEAH. YEAH. SO ANY NEW VEHICLES COMING ON, EVEN REPLACEMENTS ARE PART OF THAT LEASE PROGRAM. I SHOULD HAVE CALLED THAT OUT SPECIFICALLY. BUT YEAH, THE TWO NEW VEHICLES ARE GOING TO BE PART OF THE LEASE PROGRAM AND THE TWO AND THE THREE REPLACEMENTS, THE CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS AND SUPPORT ARE ALSO GOING TO BE ON THAT LEASE PROGRAM AS WELL. WE SEPARATE THOSE OUT BECAUSE THE COST BETWEEN SUPPORT VEHICLES, THEY'RE NOT FULLY OUTFITTED LIKE A PATROL VEHICLE. CORRECT.

I DON'T BELIEVE SO. CHIEF CAN CORRECT ME ON THAT, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE SO. I SEE NOTHING MUCH ON THE RECORD. HE'S NODDING. OKAY. I'M SURE HE WAS MAKING SOME TYPE OF COMMENT THERE IN THE BACK, BUT I CAN'T SEE. OKAY. YEAH, BUT THOSE ARE TYPICALLY LESS. AND THEN THE LAST AREA

[01:50:02]

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. WITH THE BRIEFINGS OUT OF THE WAY THERE AT 7:23 P.M. I WILL

[3.PUBLIC INPUT]

[01:55:06]

WELL, WE'RE HOPING YOU KNOW THAT THAT WE CAN. I TALKED TO EVERYBODY AND ANYBODY, ANYBODY.

I ASK THEM IF THEY PLAY GOLF AND IF THEY SAY YES, THEN I'M HANDING THEM FLIERS AND TALKING TO THEM ABOUT IT. AND SO WE'RE WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO GET PEOPLE SIGNED UP. WE WANT TO MAKE THIS BEING THAT IT'S OUR INAUGURAL EVENT, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THIS AS SUCCESSFUL AS POSSIBLE, NOT ONLY SO THAT WE CAN HOLD IT NEXT YEAR, BUT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT IT, IT'S IT'S A FINANCIAL HELP TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, YOU KNOW, FOR BENEVOLENCE OR OFFICERS INJURED FINANCIALLY, HELPING THEM FOR TRAINING EQUIPMENT, ANYTHING THAT'S NOT IN THEIR BUDGET. AND THEN ALSO FOR THE CHIEF SNACK PACK PROGRAM FOR PROVIDING, YOU KNOW, UNDERPRIVILEGED CHILDREN WITH HEALTHY SNACKS DURING A SCHOOL YEAR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING UP TONIGHT AND SHARING ALL THAT WITH US. I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, MR. MCGREGOR. JOEL MCGREGOR 8921 EAST SAM LEE LANE.

AND I'LL TRY TO BE FAST HERE, BUT I GOT A LOT TO SAY. FIRST OFF, I THINK THE REASON THE CITY. NO OTHER CITIES ALLOW FIREWORKS IS BECAUSE THEY HATE FREEDOM, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK MOST PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY HATE FREEDOM. IF YOU ACTUALLY TALK TO THEM. YOU KNOW, I SPENT CHRISTMAS AND NEW YEAR'S DOWN IN HONDURAS AND DOWN THERE, YOU WOULDN'T BELIEVE THE AMOUNT OF FREEDOM THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE KNOWN AS A COUNTRY, A FREE COUNTRY. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT FREEDOM IS HERE, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S JUST ONE LITTLE PLACE. BUT THEY I STAYED IN THE CAPITAL CITY, WHICH IS ABOUT THE SIZE OF FORT WORTH. THEY HAD FIREWORKS. EVERY KID FIVE YEARS OLD. THEIR FIRECRACKERS ARE ABOUT HALF THE SIZE OF A TOILET PAPER TUBE, AND THEY RUN AROUND, NO SUPERVISION, SHOOTING FIREWORKS OFF EVERYWHERE. THE PLACE I STAYED WAS UP HIGH AND YOU COULD SEE OUT OVER THE WHOLE CITY. I DIDN'T SEE A SINGLE FIRE ANYWHERE. AND ONE OF THE MAIN POINTS WITH THAT, THOUGH, IS WE'RE A NANNY STATE AND KIDS DO NOT LEARN RESPONSIBILITY AND ADULTS DON'T LEARN RESPONSIBILITY. YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY SAYS IT'S SOMEBODY ELSE'S FAULT. EVERYBODY RELIES ON SOMEBODY ELSE TO HOLD THEIR HAND AND BE RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERYTHING. AND SO NOBODY PAYS ANY ATTENTION, YOU KNOW, FROM DRIVING TO FIREWORKS TO TO EVERYTHING. YOU KNOW, YOU MENTIONED ALL THE THINGS THAT WE CONTROL, YOU KNOW, THE KIDS ON THEIR E-BIKES, THE, YOU KNOW, FIREWORKS, YOU JUST STACKS UP AND WE END UP WITH NO FREEDOM AT ALL. AND WE'RE RAISING A BUNCH OF IDIOTS THE KIDS DON'T KNOW HOW TO TAKE. I WAS AT A BIRTHDAY PARTY. THEY HAD A BIRTHDAY PARTY FOR MY WIFE'S GRANDMOTHER DOWN THERE ON TOP OF A THREE STORY HOUSE. KIDS, TWO YEAR BIG ENOUGH TO WALK, YOU KNOW, TWO YEARS OLD. THE THE PARAPET AROUND THAT THING IS ABOUT THIS HIGH, AND THEY'RE RUNNING ALONG THE TOP OF IT. NONE OF THEM FELL OFF, YOU KNOW, THE STAIRS. A LOT OF THE STAIRS DON'T HAVE RAILINGS AT ALL. THEY GO ALONG THE OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDINGS AND NOBODY FALLS OFF. YOU KNOW, I MADE A COMMENT, SOMEBODY DOWN THERE, IF IF OUR KIDS WERE PUT IN THAT SITUATION, THEY WOULD ALL DIE. THEY WOULD ALL FALL OFF THE ROOF. THEY'D ALL FALL OFF THE STAIRS. AND IT, IT'S, IT'S FROM THE NANNY STATE. THEY EXPECT EVERYBODY TO TAKE CARE OF EVERYTHING. AND I UNDERSTAND GANTZ HAS ISSUES WITH FIRES. YOU KNOW THAT THAT IS A PROBLEM. BUT, YOU KNOW,

[02:00:05]

AND, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD LEAD THE WAY IN FREEDOM, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. THANKS. THANK YOU SIR. ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK TONIGHT? GOING, GOING. ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT, WE WILL

[4.CONSENT ITEMS]

[5.A.Consider approval of a Resolution of the Town of Northlake, Texas, appointing one representative to the Board of Managers of the Denco Area 9-1-1 District ]

THERE ARE TWO NOMINATED PEOPLE. WE ALL KNOW. ONE OF THEM, I THINK ALL OF US DO KNOW ONE OF THEM VERY WELL AT THIS POINT. JUDY, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY? JUST JUST BACKGROUND. YEAH, THEY THERE'S TWO REPRESENTATIVES FROM THAT REPRESENT MUNICIPALITIES. ONE IS UP. THIS APPOINTMENT WILL BE A TWO YEAR APPOINTMENT. SO JULY 23RD, 2026 TO 2028. AND AS YOU MENTIONED THERE, TWO NOMINEES, TOWN OF NORTH LAKE DIDN'T NOMINATE THIS YEAR, BUT THEY'RE

[5.A. VOTE]

MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUS. ALL RIGHT. FOR OUR NEXT ONE. THIS IS SETTING. NOT

[5.B.Consider approval of a Resolution of the Town of Northlake, Texas, setting the proposed tax rate of $0.295000 per $100 valuation to be considered for Fiscal Year 2026-2027, and taking a record vote ]

IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO READ THAT TONIGHT. I'M VERY PROUD THAT THIS IS THE SAME TAX RATE WE'VE BEEN PUSHING FOR LONG BEFORE I LIVED HERE. I'M PROUD OF PAST COUNCILS AND CURRENT COUNCILS FOR MOVING, MOVING IN THE SAME GENERAL DIRECTION, KEEPING THE LOWEST RECORDED TAX RATE IN ALL OF NORTH TEXAS FOR HOME RULE MUNICIPALITIES. ANYBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION WITH SPECIAL LANGUAGE? I THINK MR. FOWLER MIGHT HAVE BEEN READY TO READ THERE. SOMEBODY

[5.B. VOTE]

SECOND. ALL RIGHT, MISTER, MOTION FOR MR. FOWLER, A SECOND FROM MISS HOLMES FOR A RECORD VOTE. DOES OUR VOTING SYSTEM COUNT AS A RECORD VOTE? YES. VERY GOOD. MOTION CARRIES.

UNANIMOUS. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE TWO SITE PLANS. FIVE C IS SITE PLAN FOR EVER HOME SUITES. MR.

[5.C.Consider approval of a Site Plan for Everhome Suites, a proposed 120-room hotel on a 2.24-acre tract of land to be replatted as Northport Addition, Lot 4-R1, Block 3, generally located on the south side of Northport Drive approximately 400 feet northeast of State Highway 114 - Case # 26 SP00004]

[02:05:03]

AND, AND, AND ALSO, AGAIN, THEY'RE PROVIDING ALL THE REQUIRED TREES AND SHRUBS, ALL THE ELEMENTS OF LANDSCAPING THAT ARE NECESSARY IN THAT IF I LOOK AT THIS, RIGHT, IS IT THE TOP RIGHT OF THIS WHERE THAT IS THAT SIX FEET. YES. OKAY. YEAH. THE TOP RIGHT, THAT PARKING AREA ENCROACHES. AND THEN YOU SEE KIND OF THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE HOTEL BUILDING.

THERE'S AN AMENITY AREA THAT'S MAYBE. YEAH, SURE. AND IS THAT THERE'S NO SIDEWALK ON THAT SIDE OF IT. IT'S JUST A CURB AND THEN GREEN SPACE OR WHATEVER. THAT'S RIGHT. JUST SO THERE'S ACTUALLY SOME LANDSCAPED AREA IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. AND UP UNTIL YOU GET TO THE CURB. BUT THIS IS THAT AMENITY AREA. AND THEN THIS IS WHERE THE PARKING ENCROACHES.

SO FOR THE MOST PART, IT MEETS OUR REQUIREMENTS. CORRECT. SMALL VARIANCE. CAN I GO AHEAD

[5.C. VOTE]

[5.D.Consider approval of a Site Plan Amendment for StudioRes, a proposed 124-room hotel on a proposed 2-acre lot to be platted as Chadwick Farms, Lot 4B, Block 1, generally located on the south side of SH 114 approximately 200 feet west of Chadwick Parkway - Case # 25-SP00002]

BUT AS THEY APPROACH CONSTRUCTION AFTER THAT SITE PLAN APPROVAL, THEY REALIZED THAT THEY WEREN'T GOING TO BE ABLE TO PLANT SOME TREES THAT WERE ON THAT ORIGINAL APPROVED LANDSCAPE PLAN WITH THE SITE PLAN. SO THEY'VE REQUESTED THIS ALTERNATE LANDSCAPE PLAN.

HERE'S THE THE DIFFERENCE IS WHAT WAS APPROVED IS ON THE LEFT. AND ON THE RIGHT IS WHAT IS PROPOSED. NOW YOU SEE THE MAIN DIFFERENCES ARE THESE TREES ALONG 114, WHICH ARE UNABLE TO BE PLANTED, AS I'M SURE YOU'RE PRETTY WELL AWARE OF THE OVERHEAD ELECTRICAL LINES. THERE'S ALSO SOME TREES IN THE LANDSCAPE, ISLANDS THAT WERE UNABLE TO BE PLANTED BECAUSE OF SOME REQUIRED FIRE HYDRANTS IN THESE AREAS. SO SPECIFICALLY. SPECIFICALLY, THERE'S TWO TWO VARIANCE REQUESTS. THE FIRST ONE IS VARIANCE TO THE REQUIRED CANOPY

[02:10:03]

BEFORE WE VOTE. WE HAVE A QUESTION FROM MR. FOWLER. JUST FOR MY INFORMATION, WHEN THEY DON'T PUT TREES ON ELECTRICAL LINES, DOES THAT MEAN THEY CAN PUT ANYTHING UNDER THERE, LIKE ANY KIND OF LANDSCAPING? LIKE. NO, BUT THEY HAVE TO ANYTHING OF THAT, IS THERE NOTHING CAN BE UNDER THERE OR JUST TREES. IT'S IT'S MAINLY JUST TREES AND SOMETIMES IT'S CERTAIN TREES, BUT IT'S UP TO THE UTILITY OWNER AND WHO HAS THAT EASEMENT. SO I THINK THAT WHAT HAPPENED IS THEY PRESENTED THEIR PLANS TO THE UTILITY COMPANY AND THEY SAID, NOPE, YOU CAN'T HAVE THESE TREES IN THERE. SO BUT BUT YOU CAN HAVE SHRUBS. USUALLY YOU CAN HAVE GROUND COVER, LANDSCAPING, SMALLER TREES. YES. GRASS. YEAH. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE MOST OF ITS PARKING. BUT YEAH, WHERE THE TREES ARE SUPPOSED TO BE IS THIS NOT JUST GRASS AND SHRUBS.

I'M STRUGGLING A LITTLE MORE WITH IT BECAUSE OF THE LOCATION BEING ON 114 AND THE AMOUNT OF TREES THAT AREN'T THERE. AND I KNOW THIS IS A TOPIC THAT KEEPS COMING UP, AND I APPRECIATE THAT. NOW WE HAVE SOMETHING WHERE WE CAN DO SOMETHING IN LIEU OF IT. BUT THIS IS ALSO, YOU KNOW, OUR OUR ENTRANCE INTO NORTH LAKE AND HOW WE WANT IT TO APPEAR, ESPECIALLY WITH THE STAR CENTER THERE. I THINK LOOKING AT OPTIONS OF PUTTING ALTERNATIVES TO TREES, DOING SOMETHING TO MAKE THAT AREA LOOK NICER. THERE'S HEDGES, THESE ARE SHRUBS. AND THIS IS A REQUIREMENT FOR TO BE PLANTED THAT OR HAVE A BERM LANDSCAPE, BERM TO SCREEN PARKING AREAS.

SO THAT WILL STILL BE IN PLACE. IT STILL REQUIRED BECAUSE IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS WILL LOOK LIKE THE FRONT OF THE APARTMENTS. I CAN'T THINK OF WHAT THEY'RE CALLED RIGHT ACROSS THE THE JEFFERSON. YEAH. THE JEFFERSON APARTMENTS BECAUSE THEY, THEY HAVE MOSTLY LIKE SHRUBS ON THAT ONE FOR. 114. THEY HAVE SOME TREES PLANTED, BUT THEY'RE STILL

[5.D. VOTE]

[6.EXECUTIVE SESSION]

551087. THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT AND WE'LL SEE YOU

[7.RECONVENE INTO OPEN SESSION]

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